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42 farewells: Fans share their favorite Mo Moments

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 27, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Mariano Rivera has pitched his last game at Yankee Stadium. It was certainly one last moment for the scrapbook (until he comes back to throw the first pitch or something). For the past week, we’ve been collecting some of your favorite Mo memories. Here they are, as put together by several of my fine colleagues The Journal News. I wish I could say I had something to do with this, but my only role was to put it in a blog post. It’s awfully cool.

By Peter D. Kramer

There are Yankees fans in the Lower Hudson Valley, kids 18 and younger, who — except for last year, when Mariano Rivera was injured — have never had to worry about a ninth inning. They have lived in the golden age of “Mo,” a man who had one pitch and beat the best of the game throwing it.

Sluggers knew his cut fastball was coming, but for years they were powerless to do anything about it but flail wildly and be rewarded with a broken bat. 

Mariano broke plenty of bats. And records. And his departure will break a few hearts. 

The 43-year-old also owns the postseason save record: At 42.

We reached out to fans to share their favorite Mo Moments. Their remembrances vary from the in-game — the one day he saved two games, the time he got three outs on three pitches — to more personal brushes with greatness — a chance meeting in a mall parking lot, the time he took the time to sign an autograph.





115 Responses to “42 farewells: Fans share their favorite Mo Moments”

  1. blake September 27th, 2013 at 9:06 am

    “I am guessing that next year will be Jeter’s turn. His retirement tour should be pretty special too.”

    I honestly don’t think Jeter will announce he’s retiring……I think maybe he will know but won’t tell anybody and then just surprise everyone one day in a pressor and be done……just seems more his style

  2. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 27th, 2013 at 9:10 am

    I have to agree with the group who feel that there was no need for Hal to be either shown by the cameras or to say anything. First of all, that the Boss would have been there and would have said something may very well be true. But he was the face of the Yankees for many years. Hal is comparatively a newby. He is also probably intelligent enough to know that the fans aren’t thrilled with this year, so it might have also taken away from things and might have gotten a sour reaction. The fans know who Mariano is. I truly don’t think any words needed to be spoken. In fact I don’t think any words could have been spoken. The visuals said it all, and Sunday’s ceremony showed the presence of the Steinbrenners.

    MTU, I’m not saying this is the case of if it is, that it is conscious, but your resentment for Hal may be at such a level that in your eyes he can do no right, right now. Just a thought.

    By the way, you referred to one day this week as a critical day in the direction of your life. I hope and pray the day has come and gone and the sun is shining brightly in Utah.


  3. Doreen September 27th, 2013 at 9:11 am

    Blake, yeah, Jeter probably goes about it in the more traditional way, and getting his “day” the following season.

  4. blake September 27th, 2013 at 9:12 am

    I’m glad Hal didn’t speak or anything…..the last thing I would have wanted was for him to give some monotone cliche filled sermon…….he should have been there though if he wasn/’t

  5. GregD September 27th, 2013 at 9:16 am

    It was a special night last night……..nothing but special…..brought tears to this old man’s eyes

  6. blake September 27th, 2013 at 9:17 am

    I hope Jeter announces it and at least gives them a little time to plan something……I just don’t think he will.

    The best ending for Jeter and most fitting would be Game 7 of a WS being the end……but that does’t seem likely. I expect him to come back strong next season and finish on his own terms whether it be at the end of 2014 or later…….

    I also really hope Girardi is back…’s taken awhile but he finally feels like the Yankee manager to me and I think he does a good job and also think he’s a truly good person who “gets it”…..he gets life in general and also gets the Yankee tradition and what it means to wear that uniform. I think if they let him go it’ll be a mistake.

  7. 4TrainNorth September 27th, 2013 at 9:19 am

    Saw an article on Yahoo questioning whether the Yankees would allow Mo to play center for an inning. Is it really even a question? Against the ‘Stros? I just wonder: if he goes in for an inning, and gets no chance, will they send him back out until he gets one?

  8. blake September 27th, 2013 at 9:19 am

    HardballTalk ?@HardballTalk 2m
    Cuba to allow athletes to sign foreign contracts

    this is pretty big news if true I’d think… more rafting through shark infested waters to play ball ?

  9. GregD September 27th, 2013 at 9:21 am

    Blake—-I agree on Girardi…….I think he can develop young players too…….I think that needs to be the focus going forward…… I don’t think we should patching holes with free agents when we don’t have a foundation…… I really think the Yanks need to make a decision on their fundamental direction

  10. MTU September 27th, 2013 at 9:21 am


    Many thanks.

    I responded in the last thread.


  11. Tackelberry September 27th, 2013 at 9:24 am

    I sure don’t envy David Robertson, who will be under tremendous pressure and srutiny next season as he tries to take over for the greatest closer of all time. Best of luck Robbie!

  12. pkyankfan69 September 27th, 2013 at 9:24 am

    blake September 27th, 2013 at 9:12 am
    I’m glad Hal didn’t speak or anything…..the last thing I would have wanted was for him to give some monotone cliche filled sermon…….he should have been there though if he wasn/’t
    Hal is too busy… He’s locked in a room with his 20 best financial advisers trying to figure out if he can make more more money by staying under $189M and incurring lost revenue that comes with that option or by going all-2008-offseason on this FA class and generating excitement in the team again.

  13. 4TrainNorth September 27th, 2013 at 9:26 am

    Watched Betances closely last night, and I’m not sold. For a guy that big and tall, his gas certainly does not look effortless. I’m no pitching coach, but it just doesn’t seem like he’s using his frame well to get leverage/a downward plane. Is there any chance that Banuelos still pans out? I need a pitcher to get excited about.

  14. MTU September 27th, 2013 at 9:29 am


    Absolutely yes on Man-Ban.

    He is only 24.

    He has all the tools. Just needs to stay healthy.

    Same with Jose Ramirez.

    Plenty to be hopeful about in that dep’t.

    More good arms on the way.

  15. Tackelberry September 27th, 2013 at 9:29 am

    “Cuba to allow athletes to sign foreign contracts ”

    This coming on the heels of one of Cuba’s best young pitchers defecting:

    These are the kinds of guys Yanks must move more aggresively on going forward.

  16. 86w183 September 27th, 2013 at 9:29 am

    Hello again….

    Cool remembrances of Mariano. I met him about 18 months ago. He was as polite,humble and warm as you would expect. Whoever gets that job better be very tough mentally… Or speak very little English.

    I also think Jeter will step away quietly. A day at the Stadium for sure, but no farewell tour. Ideally a late season announcement prior to the last home series.

  17. pkyankfan69 September 27th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    Man-Bam is only 22 I think… Pitchers come back from TJ all of the time… He certainly could be a factor down the road but I’m sure he will at least spend all of 2014 in the minors… There are a handful of prospect starters to be excited about DePaula, Ramierez… Maybe Hensley or Clarkin down the road

  18. Tackelberry September 27th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    Need to give Betances more of a look next Spring. Obviously he has command issues but they need to give him a long enough look at the big league level next year before they give up on him. Hasn’t pitched much at all since they brought him up so really not much chance to get into any kind of rythymn

  19. Tackelberry September 27th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    There are a handful of prospect starters to be excited about DePaula, Ramierez… Maybe Hensley or Clarkin down the road

    I’d add Mitchell and Campos to that group as well.

  20. 86w183 September 27th, 2013 at 9:34 am

    I wouldn’t judge Betances based on last night. His use this month has been soooo sporadic he can’t possibly have any feel or routine.

    He’ll be on the big club opening day as a 5th/6th inning guy.

  21. 4TrainNorth September 27th, 2013 at 9:36 am

    Thanks for the feedback, guys. Betances is one where I can actually see him struggling to repeat the delivery. Agree he needs more opportunity to show what he can do in the bigs. I like that he looks mean.

    Just feel like we need one of these youngsters to come up and make a splash – and to do it on an accelerated time table. I know it goes against the organization’s philosophy, but let’s see what we’ve got, especially during these next couple of years, where I doubt we’ll have much else to get excited about.

  22. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 27th, 2013 at 9:36 am

    Doreen, as is the case 99.99999% of the time, I am agreement with you posts.

    You know, you referred the other night to the baseball gods saying no, after the game when the opportunities were there and strange things happened one after another. It had that feel, that very strange feel. If only one of the things had gone right, it would have changed the complexion of the game. Not just things, but strange things. And so you’re left to wonder why.

    That has happened along the way since the 2001 and you’re left to wonder why. Not just regular baseball but kind of strange things, if you will, that change the entire complexion of the game and the postseason. What’s happening in the background that we don’t know about, that we didn’t know about at the time, that we couldn’t have known about? Of course you can’t always say.

    I’ll give you my list of “moments” that left me wondering why. Well these are a few I can think of right now:

    Tony Clark’s ground rule double in fenway

    The collision between Sheffield and Bubby Crosby when we played the Angels

    Colon going down in the first or second inning of a pivotal division game and an unknown Ervin Santana closing the door on us. (We were Colon’s daddy. That was in the bag).

    I know some people dislike it when I refer to karma, and I have no idea who was and who wasn’t juicing on other teams at any point in time, but we know now that Roger Clemens, Andy, Randy Velarde, Jason Giambi and Jason Grimsley had used at one time or another. And we know that since joining the team, Arod had used.

    For those who don’t believe in that stuff, that’s fine too. So then I will just say that the things I described above were moments that gave me great pause at the time, and I certainly wasn’t thinking karma at those moments. Just the old “wow, this obviously was not meant to be head shaking moments.

  23. MTU September 27th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    Have a great day everyone.

    Catch you all later.


  24. blake September 27th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    They need to bring Betances to camp giving him a legit chance to earn an important spot in the pen…..I’d pitch him a ton in ST…..they need to find out once and for all what he is…..

    I think Banuelos is gonna be fine….he’s very young still…..still has the most upside of any pitcher they have IMO

  25. blake September 27th, 2013 at 9:42 am

    has anyone tried to summon Jerkface lately?

  26. Tackelberry September 27th, 2013 at 9:42 am


    karma has some merit no doubt, but you also make your own karma. ALong wit those moments, think of all the blown opportunities the Yanks had in those games when one big hit could have mnade a difference. The failure of this team to deliver in the clutch has haunted them for a few years now. THye have too many ‘swing and miss’ type hitters. Need some guys who make more consistent contact and are willing to go with the pitch. Even Gardner struck out alot more than I expected for a guy who just tries to put the bat on the ball.

  27. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 27th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    Doreen, with a little luck here and there and taking back some of the injuries, the Yankees would have been in the postseason this year. So if you want to thing about strange occurrences I guess you could think about this entire season. Maybe George is on the baseball gods board of directors and maybe he’s displeased with the way his sons have been running the operation and maybe he had a hand in this as the only way to force his sons to do business differently. He’s probably up there (I do think he’s up as opposed to down, though I know some may disagree) thinking, this is my money they’re refusing to spend! We all know that George was not tight!


  28. Tackelberry September 27th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    I agree on Betances Blake. Also need to give Chase Whitley a long look. Also, what happened to Francisco Rondon? He looked great in ST, started in the bullpen, then they tried to make him a starter for a while which didn’t work out. Could he be a LOOGY Option for us next year?

  29. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 27th, 2013 at 9:46 am

    Tackleberry, no question about the games and the big hits, but the ones I’m talking about, we basically had it in the bag. Those are just the really strange happening ones in my mind. I think we were still slugging the life out of the ball in all of those series that I mentioned.

  30. 86w183 September 27th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    Tackelberry —-

    Good points. I think there needs to be an organizational mind shift to hitting the ball to the opposite field and cutting down on strikeouts.

    AND they need an organizational commitment to teaching and refining the change up at every level.

  31. blake September 27th, 2013 at 9:52 am

    “Also, what happened to Francisco Rondon? He looked great in ST, started in the bullpen, then they tried to make him a starter for a while which didn’t work out. Could he be a LOOGY Option for us next year?”

    he bounced back and forth between trenton and Scranton this year……threw about 80 innings to about a 4 era…..he did look pretty good in ST though so maybe they’ll give him another look next year.

  32. Tackelberry September 27th, 2013 at 9:53 am

    I think of Tony Clark’s double in Fenway bouncing into the seats in game 5 of the 04 series as bad luck, sure. Also in that game, Hideki Matsui hitting a rope into right field with the bases loaded and 2 out against a tired Pedro Martinez that just hung up long enough for Trot Nixon to make a sliding catch. Sounds weird, but I also keep wondering about Tony Clark in game 6 in the 9th inning against a clearly tired Keith Foulke, ahead on the count 2-0 and letting a cookie fastball go right by. If he had swung at that pitch, could Yanks had been the ones going to the WS that year?

  33. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 27th, 2013 at 9:54 am

    “The margin for error will be a lot more narrow next year, unfortunately. I don’t see them just dipping under $189 for one year, btw. Isn’t the whole point of this that they want a rebate on the LT they’ve been paying?”

    I thought that jerkface or someone said that they just needed to get under it for 2014, something about the CBA.

  34. blake September 27th, 2013 at 9:54 am

    Jim Baumbach ?@jimbaumbach 4m
    Here’s Roger Clemens’ story about Mariano Rivera from today’s Houston Chronicle:

    I don’t subscribe to the Houston chronicle so it won’t let me read it…..

  35. blake September 27th, 2013 at 9:58 am

    most of the money they save in 2014 by getting under the cap they will probably lose in decreased revenues……Yankee Stadium will be a ghost town if they bring this same team back minus Mo, Andy, Kuroda, and maybe Cano

  36. 86w183 September 27th, 2013 at 10:02 am

    Chad should start some sort of contest on what Cano will eventually sign for and/or which potential FA if any will be back in 2014.

    My guess is Cano gets 7 years @ $ 23 M a year. Granderson accepts QO and they sign Logan.

  37. Doreen September 27th, 2013 at 10:04 am

    Trisha -

    Because no one knows how far and wide the PED stuff went, I won’t attribute “karma” to that. Baseball has always had its share of surprise endings, and because human beings play the game, things go wrong.

    Bad or unfortunate things happen to good people; good things happen to bad people. Life is pretty random.

    But, yeah, some stuff that happens, you definitely do say, “wasn’t meant to be.” 2001 – Mo makes exactly the right pitch, a guy didn’t even hit it well, and, well, we know what happened. Did everything right, but it turned out wrong. Wasn’t meant to be. And I do believe that that happened many many times this season. Combined with some real honest to goodness inability to get a runner in from third with no one out!!! LOL

    From the time Jeter went down last year, everything surrounding the Yankees has been sort of surreal.

    And I do believe that the team that was supposed to play for the Yankees this year would have been in the playoffs. I believe it with all my heart. And I’m still proud of the way this Yankees team hung in there for as long as they did, until Brett Gardner walked off the field, and ARod added a calf problem to the hamstring problem and Soriano hurt his thumb, all in the space of what, two games?

    Anyway, if it was the baseball gods, it might be a message to they Yankees to not try to be something they’re not. In which case, the season will not have been a total loss.

  38. blake September 27th, 2013 at 10:08 am

    “My guess is Cano gets 7 years @ $ 23 M a year.”

    Buster tweeted the other day that the Yankees offered that exact contract awhile back and he turned it down……if he turned it down during the season he’s not accepting it as a unrestricted FA…..

    I think he goes to the Dodgers for 8/215ish……he will at least get Teixera money and I think somebody will go above 200 to get him…..hope it’s not the Yanks

  39. RadioKev September 27th, 2013 at 10:14 am

    What a poetic moment last night.

    Anyhoo… I’m still riding the Cano megacontract hate-train. I’d rather see them take the pick, and spread the wealth around than bank it all on Cano.

    Look how vastly improved the Red Sox are by picking up competitive veterans.

    Or how about this from Oakland and Fangraphs. Squeezing the most wins out your 25 players.

    I really don’t like putting it all on Cano.

  40. Doreen September 27th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    I’m torn between wanting Cano to remain as a link to better times, as well as a home grown star, and knowing that he’s going to cost a lot of money at a time when they need to replace other positions and have decided to cut their spending.

    And part of the Cano-ndrum is that if they don’t sign Cano, they need a 2d baseman. Or someone else who can replace his 25-30 HRs, 30-plus doubles, 100 rbi, and his smooth DP-ability.

  41. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 27th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    Tackleberry, a Sux friend who used to post here (didn’t know it was him at the time) put it this way to me recently. (Paraphrase) In 2003, your juicers outplayed our juicers. In 2004, our juicers outplayed your juicers. And all the time we sat thing not knowing our heroes were actually juicing.

    Karma all around, I guess. It’s funny, I always thought that 2003 was the year that the Sux actually deserved to be in the WS ahead of us, and that was the year that Giambi hit two homers and then Aaron Bleepin’ Boone hit his moon shot. In 2004, it was Trot Nixon who made that incredible catch. Of course later we find out that the list of suspected juicers on the Sux was a mile long, Nixon being one of them. And then take a look at the picture of Nomar “stick figure” Garciaparra when he was on the cover of SI, I believe, looking like Man Mountain Dean.

    Heck it was a free for all then, but only we didn’t have a clue.

    Varitek was another suspected juicer. And I think to the fight in fenway that some say woke up the Sux from their slumber and turned things around, or something. Now it appears that their juicer was fighting our juicer! :)

    And then I think to the stupid-ass first game of the 2011 division series when MLB (Torre’s revenge? ) allowed the game to start despite knowing heavy continued rains were on the way, the game where CC was cruising and Cy Verlander was scuffling. Then Nova ends up going down and Welke let’s his seeing-eye dog make the calls behind the plate in Game 5.

    But you’re right that they weren’t hitting that series. But you still want the reason for their demise to be that they didn’t play well, period, not that they were forced to play in the rain when they shouldn’t have been and that Welke screwed CC big time.

    But I guess that’s baseball Suzyn, right? (Still those things can drive you crazy!)

  42. Madrugador September 27th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    You’d think the owners would have learned their lesson about signing 30+ year old players to long term contracts for $200M+. I guess we will see with Cano. Like Blake, I hope the Yankees don’t make that mistake again.

  43. blake September 27th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    if the Yankees could get Cano for 7/161 then I’d be all for that…..the problem is that I think it’ll take significantly more…..probably at least another year and probably a higher AAV too.

    Therefore…..I think a better option would be to just let him go and take the draft pick and then spread his money around to other players. McCann, Drew, Peralta, Tanaka, Choo, Abreu etc……you could sign a combination of some of these players for similar money to Cano and get them on a much shorter term most likely.

    Now this is all assuming the 189 garbage is on…..if it’s not then sure sign Cano and everyone else…..but we have to assume they are sticking with the budget plans because we haven’t heard otherwise.

  44. blake September 27th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    “You’d think the owners would have learned their lesson about signing 30+ year old players to long term contracts for $200M+.”

    you’d think…..but I seriously doubt they all have. Baseball agents are really good at their jobs and have a way of pushing teams to do dumb things… happens every winter…..the teams get caught up in a competition for guys like it’s an auction and boom…..they are signing a bad contract before they know what hit them.

    It would be hard to say goodbye to Cano…..he’s a truly great player and by far the Yankees best player…..but they need to be smart if they are going to be on a budget…..and that means having some self control and letting somebody else overpay Cano for his 31-40 age seasons.

  45. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 27th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    Doreen, no way to know about that game for sure. Someone said they thought it was payback to Andy since it was his last game (for using). I said I always felt that when he changed his testimony and let Clemens off the hook there was going to be some atonement on his part, at some point. (I do believe that by the way). Nothing says either of those things were in play that game, though it does make me wonder. Also you know how I feel about Arod even playing, though I understand it’s allowed under the rules.

    Tar suspects there are juicers on every team. He may be right, he may be wrong. But I wouldn’t be surprised if there are still some out there lurking. Hell the Biogenesis gang, minus Arod, all took their punishment. And but for the outing they weren’t getting caught by MLB’s fantastic testing system. :evil: I can’t wait for Selig to disappear.

    Anyway, I like the Rays, even though Maddon can be maddening at times. :)

  46. Tackelberry September 27th, 2013 at 10:28 am


    That 2011 game 5 had a little of both. Yanks blowing bases loaded opprtunities in 2 different innings with less than 2 outs. And bad karma was Jeter’s drive to right in the 8th inning falling just short.

  47. blake September 27th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    this team is way more than one player away from being good again……they are multiple players away

  48. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 27th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    “You’d think the owners would have learned their lesson about signing 30+ year old players to long term contracts for $200M+. I guess we will see with Cano. Like Blake, I hope the Yankees don’t make that mistake again.”

    Magrudor, I’ve been saying the same thing. It’s the length of time that is ridiculous. We’re seeing the residuals of long-term contracts with players who are breaking down because of age, wear and tear, and “other things” in certain cases. (By the way, I admit to suspecting Tex as a user. If he is not, I apologize for suspecting it.) You have to think past tomorrow!

    Do I want Robby back? For all the tea in China I do. Do I want him back for 10 guaranteed years? Hell no.

  49. Doreen September 27th, 2013 at 10:34 am

    Here’s a thought.

    If they are serious about the 189, and push forward with that plan, they really cannot dumpster dive the way they have. They can’t sign players who have any injury risk (a la Youkilis, Hafner). Because they couldn’t afford the cost of replacing those patchwork players. They spent a lot of money this year because they had to pay people to replace hurt people.

    There needs to be a different approach.

  50. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 27th, 2013 at 10:39 am

    Tackleberry, yeah you can’t forget the lack of hitting. It’s there in black and white.

    Then there are pure knuckle-headed managing decisions that put us under. Torre sitting down the kids and letting Sheffield (who had taken the season off) bully him into putting him into the lineup in the 2006 postseason. Murderer’s Row and Cano? 2006 bothered me infinitely more than 2004. In 2004 the Yankees were lucky to have gotten that far since they had a revolving door rotation in terms of injuries, and the Sux that year did not have one pitcher go down ever.

    Torre lost the postseason for us in 2006, and he should have been canned in 2006. But he was back in 2007, when he drank green tea as midges swarmed around Joba’s head. You know, the game we were on our way to winning?


  51. pkyankfan69 September 27th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    What kind of contract is Ubaldo Jimenez going to get?

    He’ll be 30 next year, coming off an excellent 2013 where he only got better in the second half.

  52. Hankflorida September 27th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Doreen and Trisha, your philosophical discussion reminds me of Thornton Wilder’s play, “The Bridge of St Luis Rey,” where he probes the reason why when the bridge fell, certain people were unfortunately on it while others were not. In the end, there is no reason but luck or bad luck. Those two pitches that hit Granderson is a perfect example of just bad luck. In the end, there is no reason and no if’s but only what is.

  53. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 27th, 2013 at 10:42 am

    Doreen, I remember Hank saying that $189 was a goal but that it wouldn’t stand in the way of their fielding a championship team.

    Unless and until I see otherwise, $189 is not etched in stone, regardless of any guarantees to the contrary from this forum.

  54. blake September 27th, 2013 at 10:45 am

    “What kind of contract is Ubaldo Jimenez going to get?

    He’ll be 30 next year, coming off an excellent 2013 where he only got better in the second half.”

    hopefully not one from the Yankees….I don’t know if success is sustainable with his delivery…..he’s pretty prone to being good and then awful again out of the blue to me.

  55. Tackelberry September 27th, 2013 at 10:45 am


    Couldn’t agree more. If they are serious about getting under 189, then going with youth as opposed to dumpster diving makes more sense. Time find out about guys like Almonte, Romine and Murphy, and also give a serious look to Musteiler and Adonis Garcia, plus young arms like Warren, Betances and Whitley. Highest I would go with Cano would be 8 years, 200 mill. If it isn’t enough, then wave bye bye.

  56. Tackelberry September 27th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    I read that Jimenez has an 8 mill option for next year, which Indians will surely pick up, so he won’t be a FA until 2015. Yanks need to make a huge bid for Tanaka, or else try and sign Garza or Noloasco. Wild card is gonna be Pineda. Will he be ready to contribute coming out of ST next season?

  57. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 27th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    “In the end, there is no reason and no if’s but only what is.”

    handinflorida, you are correct. I tend to analyze all situations because it was far too easy for people to make negative sweeping statements as a way of pointing fingers, rather than to at least take a look at some of the details. But in the end, we’re in the same place.

    Kiss the day goodbye
    And point me toward tomorrow


  58. blake September 27th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    If CC bounces back and Nova can carry his 2013 into to 2014 then that’ll be a big help….but both of those things are somewhat up in the air.

    Sucks because the offense needs help so badly but they will now be forced to look for pitching help and they’ll prioritize that because they always do.

  59. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 27th, 2013 at 10:54 am

    Nuno, Warren, Phelps, Pineda, Nova, CC.

    Possibility of extended lightning in a bottle?

  60. bruceb September 27th, 2013 at 10:55 am

    this team is way more than one player away from being good again……they are multiple players away

    If Cano and Granderson don’t re-sign, they could be 25 players away from being good again.

    With CC struggling and Nova still inconsistent, there is no guaranteed 18-game winner in the starting rotation.

    Who knows whether DRob will make it as a closer but it’s a fair bet he won’t be quite as good as Mo.

    Who else is left to rely on in the pen?

    There are question marks about every infield position (injuries, suspension, ability), not to mention that we have no proven catcher.

    The outfield is a collection of inconsistent veterans.

    With the possible exception of Almonte – and I stress the word possible – not one of the kids from the farm has done enough to suggest they will be capable of holding down a regular place next season.

    When the dust has settled, and the warm and fuzzy feeling that Mo bestowed on us last night dissipates, what are we left with? One big mess.

  61. Hankflorida September 27th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    They spent a lot of money this year because they had to pay people to replace hurt people.

    Doreen, I agree with you, and I wonder if signing Youk with a bad back and he got hurt, would mean that the insurance company picked up most of his contract? Price Hal the Frugal is a very savvy accountant.

  62. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 27th, 2013 at 10:57 am

    bruceb, admit it. You’re just upset that you didn’t win the candy.


  63. Doreen September 27th, 2013 at 11:02 am

    HankinFlorida -

    The randomness of life. It really is fun sometimes to discuss the what if’s and what should I have done differently’s, but in the end, as you say, “it is what it is,” and when you accept that, you really can be left with a serenity (this is for things that truly are/were out of your control).


    Even if they go outside their own system, they have to focus on younger or at least healthier players.

    Another thing that I have been thinking about and that concerns me is this. Will they still be looking for one- to two-year players? I think that as much as this rag-tag team of guys put together for a season or two worked their tails off and never gave up, they have no stake in the future of this team. Isn’t it better to have a majority of your players signed up for say, 5 years? Or at least a core of players signed up for an extended period?

    It is one of the things that I think about regarding Cano. As expensive as he will be, and certainly the length of the contract will be onerous, but he represents “Yankees,” and, really, once Jeter is gone, there is no one left, no everyday player, really.

  64. bruceb September 27th, 2013 at 11:02 am

    So true, Trisha. I’m very grumpy this morning. :)

  65. Doreen September 27th, 2013 at 11:04 am

    Hankflorida -

    That’s true, about the insurance. I don’t know how that works.

  66. Doreen September 27th, 2013 at 11:07 am

    Time to throw in a load of laundry. My reality. ;)

  67. blake September 27th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    need to remember that one big reason that they spent a lot in 2013 on all the duct tape was because MLB picked up a ton of Tex’s salary because he was hurt in the WBC……they’ll have to go right back to overpaying him to hit pop ups next year

  68. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 27th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Seriously here’s the thing. Under the rubric of “you can’t please all the people all the time” you have had people on this very forum saying they cannot wait until Granderson is gone. (I personally like him, but others feel he isn’t clutch, Ks too much, whatever it is.) I believe it is a very small minority, but there are some who don’t want to spend the money on Cano, not having to do with the issue of anything beyond they feel he isn’t worth it because he’s “lazy”.

    Then there are posters who are firmly committed to “the kids” and have named names.

    Then there are fans who absolutely are not into rebuilding, and if people are worried about attendance being down now, guaranteed that there will be a segment that will not sit through another “down” year.

    There’s no unanimity of thought, other than the Yankees need to find a way to win.

    It’s like watching a tennis match, with each rooting section convinced that their “player” is the best player in the game.

    There is apparently no right or wrong answer, just individual perception of what is right and wrong. As long as the Yankees win, and preferably win it all, fans are happy (though there will always be some who are miserable no matter what and if the team is not configured the way they think it should be, they’ll complain through the season.)

  69. bruceb September 27th, 2013 at 11:14 am

    It’s a lot harder losing when you’re used to winning.

  70. blake September 27th, 2013 at 11:18 am

    The Yankees really need to make Cano their best offer out of the gate when the season is over and then put a time limit on it IMO……Cano has every right to take as long as he wants but if he wants to stay then he should move quickly and understand that the Yankees have a lot they need to do and waiting on him just hampers them from accomplishing other things that need to be done.

    If he really wanted to stay he could have taken the very fair 7/161 offer that’s already been given to him……but he wanted to test free agency and that’s fine…..but it should come with some understanding that the Yankees can’t wait until January to get an answer from him……

    Give him a month to make up his mind…..but they need to know before the winter meetings what he’s going to do and either sign him or move on

  71. NYY_Girl_Penny September 27th, 2013 at 11:18 am

    WHy do people want Curtis Granderson back ? The guy is a .230 hitter .. so what if he can hit 40HR with 600+ AB’s .. that’s 560 plate appearances he does next to nothing !!!

    I’d take Elsbury or Chin over Granderson in a heartbeat !

  72. NYY_Girl_Penny September 27th, 2013 at 11:21 am

    stupid phone, “Choo” not “Chin”.

  73. 86w183 September 27th, 2013 at 11:48 am

    I’d prefer Choo, to Granderson but not Jacoby “I’ve missed almost 40 % of the games during my MLB career” Ellsbury.

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    Not for anything but why even publish the memory about striking out “Nick Markakis” in the 2003 ALCS and then describing Mo as laughing hysterically on the mound? Markakis wasn’t on the Sox and Mo was crying. It’s a memory of someone who knows nothing about the game or that situation.

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