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Mariano Rivera

Mariano Rivera seemed at peace with it all, and maybe that’s to be expected. He’s always been calm and controlled at the end.

“I would say we worked hard the whole year,” he said. “Now, it’s over. There’s a sense of relief, yes. … Definitely, I’ve been ready for this moment. I’m OK with it. I’m happy with it. Move on.”

For some, that’s a lot easier said than done.

Tonight the Rays and Rangers play a tiebreaker to determine which team plays a wild-card play-in game on Wednesday. It’s not an ideal situation for either team, but it’s a better situation than the Yankees are in right now. They finished tied with the Orioles for third place in the American League East, a full six games out of the wild card. The Royals had a better record than the Yankees.

There were positives to this season, and a case could be made that the Yankees overachieved considering all the injuries. Of course, a case could also be made that the Yankees were ill-prepared — in terms of depth and minor league talent — to deal with those injuries. And certainly we’ll spend some time this winter looking back at the things that went wrong along the way. Today, though, we follow Rivera’s lead and move on into the uncertainty of this offseason.

“I don’t know who’s going to be here next year,” Derek Jeter said. “I have no idea. I can’t comment on next year. I don’t even know if the manager and coaches are free agents too, so anything I would say about next year would be premature and speculation.”

Truth is, there aren’t many answers about next season. So how do we start dealing with the offseason’s many questions? Well, it starts today.

Alex Rodriguez, Derek Jeter• This is the first day of Alex Rodriguez’s appeal hearing, the first step toward finding out how much time he’ll miss — and how much he’ll be paid — next season.

• Joe Girardi will meet with ownership in the next few days to discuss whether or not he returns at Yankees manager. Larry Rothschild’s contract also expires this offseason, and the Yankees seem to want him back.

• Free agency will pluck a group of key Yankees off the roster. Robinson Cano, Curtis Granderson and Hiroki Kuroda are the headliners, but Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain, Boone Logan and Lyle Overbay — among others — will also need to be replaced one way or another. This is going to take a while, though.

• Dave Robertson and Brett Gardner are due for arbitration raises, Ivan Nova and Shawn Kelley are also arb-eligible for the first time, and the Yankees will have to make decisions about whether to tender contracts to arbitration-eligible guys like Chris Stewart, David Huff and Jayson Nix.

• Slade Heathcott and Chase Whitley are among the prospects who are eligible for the Rule 5 draft this winter.

• Winter ball will start in October, and Dellin Betances has asked the Yankees to let him play in the Dominican Republic so that he can keep throwing and stay sharp. Eduardo Nunez is also planning to play winter ball, but he said he’s not sure yet whether he should focus on shortstop, second base or third base. Cesar Cabral has also played winter ball in the past, and Vidal Nuno is heading to the Arizona Fall League. By spring training, each of those four could be legitimate big league options.

Point is, it’s a long offseason, and it’s going to be even longer than usual for the Yankees. There’s also a lot to be done, with huge decisions to make and key players coming and going. For Rivera there may be a sense of relief. For everyone else, it seems more like uncertainty.

“We’ll see,” Jeter said. “There’s a lot of ifs and questions; who’s coming back and who’s not coming back. I have no idea. It would be unfair to even speculate.”

Of course, that won’t stop us. And we’ll have plenty of time to do it.

Chat tomorrow: I suppose we can start some of the speculation tomorrow. Let’s do a chat at noon on Tuesday. Hope you guys can stop by for a while. Obviously there’s plenty to discuss.

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101 Responses to “What’s next?”

  1. MTU September 30th, 2013 at 9:04 am

    I might consider swapping out LR since his contract is done anyway.

    I’ve grown sour on him.

    Maybe Scott Aldred or even Gil Patterson ?

  2. MTU September 30th, 2013 at 9:05 am

    And I also hope Newman gets the axe.

    ;)

  3. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2013 at 9:10 am

    Good morning Chad. We all want to thank you again for your excellent work in making this Yankee Blog the best.

    This was a nice article in the NY Times on Mo, that I’m attaching for those who haven’t seen it-”A Zen Master With a Mean Cutter”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09.....&_r=0

  4. MTU September 30th, 2013 at 9:11 am

    I’m liking all these potential changes.

    Everyone in an organization comes with a born on and an expiration date.

    Many of our current people have reached their ED IMO.

    Fresh eyes and fresh perspective needed.

  5. MTU September 30th, 2013 at 9:12 am

    Morning YT.

    :)

  6. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2013 at 9:12 am

    MTU

    Rothschild out? Why?

  7. MTU September 30th, 2013 at 9:15 am

    YT-

    I don’t think he’s been effective at fixing guys who needed fixing.

    And I don’t think he’s been effective at teaching some of the younger guys the kinds of things they’ve needed to reach their ceilings.

    I’ve soured on him is all.

  8. MTU September 30th, 2013 at 9:17 am

    And other than preaching more K’s I don’t see that he has a philosophy of pitching that is effective.

    Anyone can say, “Let’s try to strike more guys out.”

    Nothing very creative there.

    ;)

  9. Madrugador September 30th, 2013 at 9:18 am

    Normally I don’t like change but it is clear the fundamental way the Yankees do business has to change. The day of picking up most of your team through free agency is done. Repeating what seems to have been unsuccessful is insanity(Einstein’s paraphrased words I think).

  10. MTU September 30th, 2013 at 9:18 am

    It’s like the big, hairy approach to hitting.

  11. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2013 at 9:20 am

    MTU

    Morning to you.

    What if Girardi decides to take a year off and be with family, especially if the Steinbrenner’s plan to not break the bank. Next year could very well be worse, with him needing to “pull a rabbit out of his hat,” more often.

  12. chicken little September 30th, 2013 at 9:21 am

    To me, it does not really matter who runs the farm system and the draft if the Yankees continue to “do business as usual.” Whatever the grand drafting and development plan currently in place is, it does not work. The Yankees are in need of an overhaul as to how they scout, draft, and develop talent. One of the things that alarmed me last off-season was Randy Levine chastising other organizations and essentially proclaiming that the Yankee way of doing business always works and always will continue to work. Well it did not work this year. The Yankees can point to all the injuries, but the end result is that building a team essentially through waiver-wire pickups with no consistent flow of high end talent to replace injured/aging players causes 85-77 seasons despite a $200+ million payroll.

  13. MTU September 30th, 2013 at 9:21 am

    YT-

    I think Pena is a logical and acceptable replacement for Girardi if he decides to move on.

  14. MTU September 30th, 2013 at 9:26 am

    Chicken-

    If they dump Newman and Oppenheimer then they are expressing unhappiness with business as usual.

    And those 2 changes alone should result in a very positive difference if they are given autonomy and resources.

  15. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2013 at 9:29 am

    Lack of effective pitching ended up being the main downfall for the Yankees the last 6 weeks or so, of the season.

    Which pitchers do the Yankees have that you feel very confident that can excel in the roles they will/might have? Robertson as closer? Sabathia as Ace? Kuroda if he returns?

    I feel best about Nova, if he can avoid the forearm problems that have bothered him each of the last two years.

  16. chicken little September 30th, 2013 at 9:30 am

    MTU — the key is if the replacement(s) are given autonomy to implement change and the resources to do so. Change for change sake will be more the same.

  17. MTU September 30th, 2013 at 9:34 am

    YT-

    I look it like this.

    A Team is like the balloon.

    You squeeze it in one spot and it pops out in another.

    The Yankees squeezed their pitching too much during the season due to a lack of O and it came back to bite them at the end.

    They need to balance things out better next year.

    As far as who I have confidence in ?

    I’d say all 3 of those guys as long as they are properly managed.

    CC and Kuroda might need a little more rest.

    I think D-Rob will do OK.

  18. MTU September 30th, 2013 at 9:35 am

    Chicken-

    I agree. Just scapegoating would be a waste of time.

    But that is not what I am hoping happens.

    Actually, I’m hoping they bring in fresh eyes from outside the organization and tell them to run with it.

    ;)

  19. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2013 at 9:36 am

    The Yankees can point to all the injuries, but the end result is that building a team essentially through waiver-wire pickups with no consistent flow of high end talent to replace injured/aging players causes 85-77 seasons despite a $200+ million payroll.
    —————-
    Chicken-

    You are absolutely right. Unfortunately, unless they are willing to spend, to bring in some international young talent, in areas of need, to speed up the recovery process, I expect more of the same. :(

  20. MTU September 30th, 2013 at 9:38 am

    Cosmetic change is not the type of change we need.

    Let’s hope it’s real.

    ;)

  21. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2013 at 9:39 am

    Have to run.

    Have a great day.

  22. Ys Guy September 30th, 2013 at 9:42 am

    im looking very much forward to having the yankees on fm next year. i live only 14 miles from the empire state building but i still often have problems with the wcbs signal.

    it would be nice if they took this opportunity to inject some new voices into the radio broadcast (they already announced that the blind play-by-play man and his compadre are coming back, but c’mon at least rotate in someone good (someone who can’t name any show tunes)

    it was sad listening to the mets sign off of wfan for the last time yesterday. thier announcers dont even know if they have jobs next spring even though they are among the best in the buisness.

  23. MTU September 30th, 2013 at 9:45 am

    I’m leaving for Vegas soon.

    Hopefully the last visit for the Mop at the Vet.

    Catch you later.

    :)

  24. tomingeorgia September 30th, 2013 at 9:46 am

    Four months, 15 days until Spring Training.

  25. 86w183 September 30th, 2013 at 9:46 am

    Hello again all……

    A lot of fresh faces, new approaches would’ve healthy for the organization.

    I think the player development mindset needs to get much more aggressive about promoting players who are performing at a high level. They seem to leaves guys down until they’re bored to death and stop performing.

    I think they need an organizational hitting coach who will preach an opposite field approach and emphasize reducing strikeouts and an organizational pitching coach who demands every pitcher commits to either a change up or splitter.

    And they really need A-Rod to miss 2014 and Iciro to retire.

  26. 86w183 September 30th, 2013 at 9:47 am

    Good luck MTU !!

  27. Ys Guy September 30th, 2013 at 9:58 am

    i really like the oppo approach. idk if they can change any major league hitter’s approaches, but in the minors they have to learn to hit the other way.

    it would also help if they could come up with some way to correct the total blunder that is the current RF fence in NYS, the easiest HR in baseball. it is the siren’s song to RH batters.

    they have to make it clear to ichiro that 4th OF is the best he can hope for on the yankees and being released in ST is a possibility and offer him a settlement or something to retire.

    i’ve defended cashman alot on here although i’ve always kept an open mind about change at the gm spot.

    im cool if they bring him back, but i’d actually prefer if they kick him upstairs or let him go. change is good at this point.

    girardi has to be brought back, the guy is very very good.

  28. pkyankfan69 September 30th, 2013 at 10:08 am

    No playoffs for the Yankees, Giants are 0-4, and my fantasy football teams are sucking.

    My only hope lies with the NY Knicks…

    … Oh the humanity!!!

  29. 86w183 September 30th, 2013 at 10:15 am

    If your only hope is the Knicks it’s going to be a long, cold winter I’m afraid.

  30. pat September 30th, 2013 at 10:16 am

    craigcalcaterra
    Somewhere Bill Madden is waking up, getting ready to write an “A-Rod won’t play again this year” column. Nods. “Nailing it this time.”

    :lol:

  31. pkyankfan69 September 30th, 2013 at 10:23 am

    86… Yup… I wonder when the last time the Yankees and Giants missed the playoffs and the Knicks made it?… With out checking it’s gotta be around ’93ish.

    The crazy thing about the Giants is that if they beat the Eagles next week and the Cowgirls lose to the Broncos, the Giants are only 1 game out of first even at 1-4… I wish the AL East was as bad as the NFC East this year.

  32. MTU September 30th, 2013 at 10:37 am

    Thanks 86.

    We’re off.

  33. Hankflorida September 30th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    Yankee trader, I read the article that you posted from the NY Times, and it reenforced my post where I felt that Robertson was a more emotional pitcher when compared to Mo who was the Zen Master. I went back to the other relief pitchers of the Yankees starting with Johnny Murphy, Joe Page, Sparky Lyle, Goose Gossage and Dave Righeti and could not find that Zen quality that Mo brought to the mound. Mo seemed to have that ability to always remain in the eye of the storm where there was just him and the ball, and he could throw the ball exactly where he wanted it to go. Like most closers, Robertson must need the flow of adrenaline to deal with those moments of stress, but the likes of Mo, ” the Zen Master with a cutter,” may never be seen again.

  34. umbrelladoc September 30th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    Here are the winning percentages for the wild-card contenders with a “balanced” schedule, with no interleague play.
    Cleveland 0.567
    NY Yankees 0.556
    Tampa Bay 0.552
    Baltimore 0.542
    Kansas City 0.525
    Texas 0.515
    Texas is the main beneficiary – being sub-.500 against the rest of the league, while feasting in the West.

  35. pat September 30th, 2013 at 11:02 am

    PeterBotte
    First player sighting at Stadium, Ichiro in a very Ichiro bright-blue Porsche.

  36. pat September 30th, 2013 at 11:11 am

    “Cashman knows the business plan was stuck in the early 2000’s for too long – if only because the Core Four stars, along with the additions of CC Sabathia, A.J. Burnett and Mark Teixeira, staved off the empire’s fall. ”

    http://www.northjersey.com/col.....LAppO.dpuf

    Did Tex and AJ do more than Alex and Robbie to “stave off the empires fall” ?

  37. tucker September 30th, 2013 at 11:15 am

    Jeter’s standard answer for the offseason has typically been something like this: Management always puts us in a situation to win. Jeter has had some variation of that quote time and time again.

    You haven’t hear that come from his lips so far. Probably won’t either.

  38. pat September 30th, 2013 at 11:24 am

    PeterBotte
    Mariano just pulled in a few minutes after Cashman. Meeting about one more year? (Yeah, probably not).

  39. pat September 30th, 2013 at 11:27 am

    PeterBotte
    Nope, Mariano and wife just came to pick up their other car. Already gone. Did not stop to chat or sign. Retirement starts now. #GoneFishing

  40. 86w183 September 30th, 2013 at 11:29 am

    The Yanks were in a situation to win this year and then Jeter went down, and Granderson, and Teixeira and Cervelli (you can laugh but look at the numbers) and Nunez and suddenly they were in a much worse situation in terms of winning.

    umbrelladoc — Interesting stuff. How hard would it be to calculate how the top teams fared against each other? “Top” meaning the six still playing plus the Yanks, Orioles and Royals.

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    Uh oh… Cubs just fired their manager…

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