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Cashman says $189 million is “not a mandate”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 01, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

189There are very few benefits to being stuck in standstill traffic, but I suppose this one of them: It’s a solid opportunity to take a remarkably appropriate picture.

Along the Major Deegan Expressway, close to the George Washington Bridge, there’s a billboard advertising the latest lottery jackpot. The total winnings are printed in big yellow numbers just above the roadway: $189 million.

The path to Yankee Stadium, quite literally, involves going underneath that number.

“It’s certainly a goal,” Brian Cashman said today. “It’s not a mandate. It’s a goal that we have and if it’s possible. There’s a lot of benefits to staying under that, but it’s not a mandate if it’s at the expense of a championship. It just depends on what the opportunities are before us, and the costs associated with it, and if the feelings are if we don’t do something it will prevent us from taking a run.

“Then, I think (Hal Steinbrenner’s) commentary that he’s already made at the owners’ meetings as well as spring training is that it’s a goal, not a mandate. Every option, every opportunity that comes my way — whether by trade or free agency — I will always present to my owner and team president for evaluation. We will provide recommendations, they will provide their thoughts on what we should do, and the final call on whatever is going to be done. So it’s a goal, not a mandate.”

Cashman mentioned signing Mark Teixeira and getting Andy Pettitte out of retirement as examples of him going to ownership with ideas that were accepted, despite the fact they stretched the team beyond its intended payroll.

“It’s got to be something that you like, something that you believe in, something you think could be an important piece for us,” Cashman said. “Then you share your thoughts with ownership on that. Most of the time they say yes. Most of the time. You go from there. It’s a goal that I’m charged with if possible. It’s not like I’m going to get a red star or something like that if I reach the goal. It’s just a important goal. But again it’s not a mandate.

“If something presents itself over the course of time whether it’s this winter or during the summer at the trade deadline that’s going to put that in jeopardy, I suspect that’s going to happen. A conversation will happen and Hal Steinbrenner will make whatever decisions are best for the franchise in the short and long term. Whatever that’s going to be. I know that it’s a goal and it’s not a mandate and I know his effort and interest is fielding a championship club and bringing another championship here and adding to the trophy case. I know that’s just the bottom line.”

Then there was this line from Cashman:

“The only thing I can confidently tell you is, when the last name is Steinbrenner, the effort is going to be there in terms of making a full push for having the best team on the field you can possibly have.”

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65 Responses to “Cashman says $189 million is “not a mandate””

  1. Wave Your Hat October 1st, 2013 at 4:48 pm

    Well that clears everything up.

  2. MTU October 1st, 2013 at 4:52 pm

    I’ll believe when I see it.

    They went over this past season on 1 yr. deals.

    Next year they don’t even have that luxury ( no pun intended ).

    ;)

  3. TKR October 1st, 2013 at 4:57 pm

    1C..Salty
    1B..Tex
    SS..Drew
    2b..?..going to be looking at 6/8 for 150/220
    3b..Peralta
    DH/SS Jeter

  4. Wave Your Hat October 1st, 2013 at 4:57 pm

    ““The only thing I can confidently tell you is, when the last name is Steinbrenner, the effort is going to be there in terms of making a full push for having the best team on the field you can possibly have.””

    So, if I have this straight, the Yanks are not categorically opposed to spending more than $189M, but if the best team on the field that they can possibly have costs less than $189M, then that’s what they are going to do.

  5. TKR October 1st, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    if Cano leaves

    Choo
    Gardner
    Sori
    Ichiro

  6. pkyankfan69 October 1st, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    MTU October 1st, 2013 at 4:52 pm
    I’ll believe when I see it.
    ——————
    After I read the article these were going to be the first words out of my fingers.

  7. pkyankfan69 October 1st, 2013 at 5:05 pm

    “The only thing I can confidently tell you is, when the last name is Steinbrenner, the effort is going to be there in terms of making a full push for having the best team on the field you can possibly have.”

    If these words are true…

    Resign Cano
    Resign Kuroda
    Sign Choo
    Sign McCann
    Sign Abreu
    Sign Tanaka
    Sign 2 more proven RP to add to Drob/Kelley/Betances/Phelps/Claiborne

  8. Frankg October 1st, 2013 at 5:16 pm

    Why would they want to sign those high priced free agents, when Oakland and Pittsburg have proved you can win through other means? Gone are the days when free agents wanted to play for the Yankees to win. Other teams are just as capable of winning and it appears that they have more fun and spirit on other teams. Playing for Joe Girardi is like working for an undertaker.

  9. Tidrow October 1st, 2013 at 5:16 pm

    TKR October 1st, 2013 at 4:57 pm
    1C..Salty
    1B..Tex
    SS..Drew
    2b..?..going to be looking at 6/8 for 150/220
    3b..Peralta
    DH/SS Jeter No way on Salty who is one of the worst defensive catchers in baseball.

  10. pkyankfan69 October 1st, 2013 at 5:19 pm

    Why would they want to sign those high priced free agents, when Oakland and Pittsburg have proved you can win through other means?
    ———————-
    Oakland and Pittsburgh have farm systems that produce

  11. Warning Track Power October 1st, 2013 at 5:19 pm

    Very pleased with the comments Cashman made today. Nothing for me to complain about.
    Then again, I was never worried about the $189M figure.

  12. Warning Track Power October 1st, 2013 at 5:20 pm

    pkyankfan69 October 1st, 2013 at 5:19 pm
    Why would they want to sign those high priced free agents, when Oakland and Pittsburg have proved you can win through other means?
    ———————-
    Oakland and Pittsburgh have farm systems that produce
    —————————————————————————————–
    They do and that’s because both teams have been awful of late.
    While the Yankees were winning more WS titles or advancing far into the playoffs, those 2 teams you mentioned were batting for last place and afforded the opportunity to get the best talent in the draft round after round.

  13. Wave Your Hat October 1st, 2013 at 5:23 pm

    “Very pleased with the comments Cashman made today. Nothing for me to complain about.”

    His comments were gobbledegook. If that’s a word.

  14. rl1856 October 1st, 2013 at 5:26 pm

    8/200mm+2 option years for Cano. We’ll get 5 good years and 3 declining years. Acceptable for a franchise player.

    McCann worries me more than Cano. In his walk year, his numbers rebounded but he still lags his best years and he will be on the wrong side of 30 in the middle of what will be a very expensive contract. Going with McCann also means the trade value of Romaine,JR and Sanchez plummets.

    3 huge variables will determine our offseason. Arod’s appeal, Cano, internal opinion regarding Pineda.

  15. pkyankfan69 October 1st, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    hey do and that’s because both teams have been awful of late.
    While the Yankees were winning more WS titles or advancing far into the playoffs, those 2 teams you mentioned were batting for last place and afforded the opportunity to get the best talent in the draft round after round.
    —————-
    I 1/2 buy this argument… Teams that are good at development turn plenty of guys who are late round picks into good players… The Rays are the perfect example… Longo and Price were known to be top talent and the Rays took advantage of their high picks and got them… Guys like Cobb, Moore, and Archer were all late round picks and the Rays scouting did an excellent job of finding potential and their minor leagues developed them into very solid to potentially very good MLB pitchers.

  16. MTU October 1st, 2013 at 5:32 pm

    Our MiLB have not producing as they should.

    Even the Yankees themselves have acknowledged as much.

    If you are going to contend w less money then your Farm has to produce more.

    You can still find lot’s of talent in the latter rounds.

    Look at D-Rob and AP. Both later round picks.

    Nova was let go in the rule 5 draft. He was not highly touted.

    Granted it is easier if you draft higher but it isn’t totally necessary.

    Newman should have taken a fall. For sure.

    I’ll look forward to the time when the money spigot opens again. And we get that edge back.

    This season affords the Yankees the opportunity to change some of the outmoded ways they run. to revamp things, etc.

    I hope do exactly that but I am waiting to see.

    Running things as they have been without revision seems foolish.

    ;)

  17. blake October 1st, 2013 at 5:34 pm

    Again I say…..actions speak louder than monologues

  18. MTU October 1st, 2013 at 5:34 pm

    I don’t know bout anyone else but I’m pulling for the Pirates of the East tonight.

    ;)

  19. Warning Track Power October 1st, 2013 at 5:34 pm

    pkyankfan69 October 1st, 2013 at 5:27 pm
    hey do and that’s because both teams have been awful of late.
    While the Yankees were winning more WS titles or advancing far into the playoffs, those 2 teams you mentioned were batting for last place and afforded the opportunity to get the best talent in the draft round after round.
    —————-
    I 1/2 buy this argument… Teams that are good at development turn plenty of guys who are late round picks into good players… The Rays are the perfect example… Longo and Price were known to be top talent and the Rays took advantage of their high picks and got them… Guys like Cobb, Moore, and Archer were all late round picks and the Rays scouting did an excellent job of finding potential and their minor leagues developed them into very solid to potentially very good MLB pitchers.
    ——————————————————————————
    I see your point and I do agree with what you wrote.

    At the same time everybody here has to understand “luck” is a huge factor in the equation.
    The Yankees have drafted players that were highly touted and had a tremendous upside, but those players did not work out.
    Don’t fool yourself into think that every other MLB team would have drafted those same players if given the chance.
    So for every example you listed by the Rays, there are hundreds of examples that never make it above AA, let alone are impact players in the MLB

  20. pkyankfan69 October 1st, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    WTP,

    We’re basically on the same page… Yanks have been unlucky with MiLB injuries for sure

  21. MTU October 1st, 2013 at 5:37 pm

    The failure rate among MiLB is very high but that should not be taken as an excuse for a lack of productivity.

    It just means you have to do better in all aspects so you can reduce that rate.

    It’s called quality control.

    And it can be applied to baseball in same way it can be applied to many other processes.

    ;)

  22. MTU October 1st, 2013 at 5:38 pm

    Blake-

    Can I use that line ?

    :)

  23. randy l. October 1st, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    Baseball Reference ?@baseball_ref 14m
    “The Yankees 8 highest paid position players produced 8 WAR for $120M, or $105M for 1 WAR, with Robinson Cano excluded.”

  24. MTU October 1st, 2013 at 5:40 pm

    Randy-

    Welcome back.

    I spoke about your possible return earlier.

    Stick around for the Hotstove please.

    :)

  25. MTU October 1st, 2013 at 5:41 pm

    By the way, JF was here earlier.

    ;)

  26. austinmac October 1st, 2013 at 5:41 pm

    MTU,

    MLBTR says the Mariners are tendering Morales a contract. That pretty well eliminates him.

  27. Hankflorida October 1st, 2013 at 5:42 pm

    So, if I have this straight, the Yanks are not categorically opposed to spending more than $189M, but if the best team on the field that they can possibly have costs less than $189M, then that’s what they are going to do.

    Wave Your Hat, you are so right that anyone would have one iota of doubt that below the cap is not etched in stone. That is why I brought up Reynolds at third till A-Rod returns. The cap was on my mind this year when they signed Boesch as his home run ratio to at bats was similar to Granderson when he played for Detroit in a bigger ballpark. The Yankees were looking for power on the cheap, but once Granderson and Text got hurt, they had to have some power from the right side and a first basemen so Welles and Overbay also came cheaply and that meant Boesch was expendable. I understood the gamble with Boesch in regard to the cap and understood playing two banjo hitters in the outfield because of the cap, and there is no question that the cap ruled yesterday and will rule tomorrow. The question is how do you get a power laden team similar to last because a team that manufactures runs does not fit the Bronx especially with the pitching that we have?

  28. blake October 1st, 2013 at 5:45 pm

    randy l. says:
    October 1, 2013 at 5:39 pm
    Baseball Reference ?@baseball_ref 14m
    “The Yankees 8 highest paid position players produced 8 WAR for $120M, or $105M for 1 WAR, with Robinson Cano excluded.”

    This is why the actual payroll for the Yankees was always irrelevant…..because they weren’t worth anywhere close to 230 million dollars…

    Hey Randy…welcome back

  29. MTU October 1st, 2013 at 5:45 pm

    Mac-

    Too bad.

    Time to pivot then.

    How are things over in merry old England ?

    Having fun old chap ?

    :)

  30. blake October 1st, 2013 at 5:45 pm

    Sure MTU….it’s not patented :)

  31. blake October 1st, 2013 at 5:47 pm

    I think it’s pretty obvious they can’t build a championship team right now for under 189 million…..so we will find out soon if Hal was telling the truth or just blowjng smoke

  32. MTU October 1st, 2013 at 5:48 pm

    Blake-

    I just wanted to be sure. Don’t want to step on anyone’s toes.

    :)

  33. Shame Spencer October 1st, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    randy!!!

    Did you guys see this one:

    ?@MikeVacc Good luck to ye, Robbie Cano “@GottliebShow: Jay Z sez knowledge of budgets from days dealing drugs will help as agent. Let that sink in ”

  34. austinmac October 1st, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    MTU,

    Things are ” lovely” here. We are in a national park. Great hiking my friend. Wonderful time.

  35. tomingeorgia October 1st, 2013 at 5:50 pm

    MTU,
    Me and you for the Pirates!

  36. MTU October 1st, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    Blake-

    Some would disagree w you (not necessarily me).

    I want to see what they come up w before I judge.

    I’m not that confident in my ability to know all the ramifications inherent in the #’s.

    But I am definitely skeptical of them going over.

    ;)

  37. Shame Spencer October 1st, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    @jonmorosi Padres announce Chase Headley underwent arthroscopic surgery on left knee to repair medial meniscus tear.

  38. MTU October 1st, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    Mac-

    Carry on then.

    Tally Ho !

    Tom-

    I am a big Clint Hurdle fan.

    He was very successful with the Rox too.

    Good Manager.

  39. blake October 1st, 2013 at 5:54 pm

    Some would …… And I’ve even given some ideas how they could…..but it’s outside the box they typically play in

  40. Shame Spencer October 1st, 2013 at 5:54 pm

    blake October 1st, 2013 at 5:47 pm

    I think it’s pretty obvious they can’t build a championship team right now for under 189 million…..so we will find out soon if Hal was telling the truth or just blowjng smoke

    —————–

    Even if they go $40+ million over the cap, the FOX money pays for that!!!

  41. MTU October 1st, 2013 at 5:55 pm

    Good. That will reduce Headley’s asking price.

    :)

  42. blake October 1st, 2013 at 5:56 pm

    “Even if they go $40+ million over the cap, the FOX money pays for that!!! ”

    99 % of fans don’t know that….and Hal knows that

  43. MTU October 1st, 2013 at 6:00 pm

    Shame-

    They want to reset that LT burden on a more permanent basis.

    Can’t blame them for that but the timing might be off w all of the money on the books being given to so few.

    Or perhaps they could have planned for it sooner ?

    I would imagine the rumors of it happening were in the wind for a while.

    Anyway you slice it 189 is a straightjacket with the Yankees contract situation.

    Those big contracts crowd out a lot of other possibilities.

  44. MTU October 1st, 2013 at 6:04 pm

    Blake-

    The issue with 189 is resetting the LT.

    They also say it is not necessary to spend 200 mil to build a champion.

    I would agree if the slate were relatively clean but we both know it’s not.

    So that is a bit misleading at the present time.

    There are also a larger number of holes to fill than usual.

  45. Hankflorida October 1st, 2013 at 6:05 pm

    blake October 1st, 2013 at 5:47 pm
    I think it’s pretty obvious they can’t build a championship team right now for under 189 million…..so we will find out soon if Hal was telling the truth or just blowjng smoke

    You are right on as it is virtually impossible with their anchored contracts, but they can get to the second WC, and that is what Cashmen is saying without saying. I am talking of home run power of 25 for Reynolds at third and a left handed Swisher type right fielder platooning with Welles and Soriano at DH. Granderson in left and Cano have to be signed in order to round out our power numbers with Text at first. That leaves us with three table setters at short, center and catcher. Without injuries and signing Kuroda and another battle tested pitcher in FA, the Yankees can be in the mix for the one game playoff in October. From WC to WS to championship team while attendance doesn’t suffer, and the money keeps rolling in while living under the cap. Hal’s dream!

  46. blake October 1st, 2013 at 6:08 pm

    “I would agree if the slate were relatively clean but we both know it’s not.”

    Exactly and that’s the point…..they have so much tied up in bad contracts that their actual value for 189 million would be much less than most teams

  47. Shame Spencer October 1st, 2013 at 6:10 pm

    No offense Hank, but if the plan is to eek into the playoffs using that WC2 slot next year then they should just blow the whole thing up. Whatever parts they can, anyway. Because if you start a season aiming for the very last spot open, you really don’t have any room for error. And good luck in that one game playoff.

  48. Section 8 October 1st, 2013 at 6:11 pm

    Did anyone hear Cashman on Francesa? When asked about the outfield, Cashman said first order of business would be deciding whether to offer Grandy a qualifying offer. Francesa asked if the QO would be “based on his (injury shortened) season?”, then after the interview was over said it was interesting that Cashman made it clear that’s what they’d do, ie make a low-ball QO.

    The Sports Pope clearly has no clue what a QO is. I had to turn the radio off; did any subsequent called correct him?

  49. MTU October 1st, 2013 at 6:11 pm

    Blake-

    I give you credit for coming up with some alternate ways of doing things. You did a good job.

    The only problem I have with your idea(s) are that I don’t see the Yankees doing things that way.

    I see them sticking to the basic orthodoxy as the path of least resistance.

    I would love to be wrong and see some truly different and creative thinking take place along those same lines but I will believe it when I see it.

    ;)

  50. Shame Spencer October 1st, 2013 at 6:12 pm

    I mean.. your plan is probably what they’ll do and it will be a completely nightmare because the Rays and O’s will get better this off season and they have more talent than we do to start with.

  51. rickc October 1st, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    Cashman has/had the easiest job in sports. Unlimited budget for nearly 20 years, sign the best free agents every year, overpay by a wide margin for most of them. Even if you made one mistake which was often the case, you had 2-5 others to pick up your slack.

    Of course there’s more to being a GM than signing and overpaying for FA’s but if you judge strictly on that, most of us and certainly baseball men with front office experience would have done as good a job with keeping the big league club stocked and the minor leagues lacking in talent.

  52. MTU October 1st, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    I have no idea what the Yankees will do for sure this OS.

    Only guesses. Since they simply won’t take my calls anymore.

    Guess they think I’m some sort of nobody.

    :)

  53. Shame Spencer October 1st, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    I’m sure no one has corrected Mike but it’s possible that by ‘low ball offer’ he just meant lower than what they’d spend on a FA. Any FA is going to cost way more in terms of a total contract and likely more in AAV terms as well.

  54. MTU October 1st, 2013 at 6:16 pm

    Cashman is responsible for the renewed interest in the Farm.

    So he gets credit for that.

    ;)

  55. Shame Spencer October 1st, 2013 at 6:19 pm

    BREAKING NEWS:

    @KenDavidoff A-Rod’s outta here. “I feel good.” #MLB #Yankees

  56. MTU October 1st, 2013 at 6:21 pm

    If the breakdown has been in development rather than drafting then Newman should go.

    If it is both then Newman and Oppenheimer should go.

    Some of our drafts have definitely been questionable.

    And so has our development program(s).

    Cashman did not appoint Newman.

    And I am not sure who hired Oppenheimer ? Was that Cashman ?

  57. MTU October 1st, 2013 at 6:22 pm

    Hope A-rod feels as good after the decision is handed down.

    Anything less than 100 and he has done incredibly well.

    ;)

  58. MTU October 1st, 2013 at 6:23 pm

    Back in a few.

  59. Wave Your Hat October 1st, 2013 at 6:37 pm

    I’m thinking 75.

  60. jacksquat October 1st, 2013 at 6:50 pm

    So what was with all the cheap 1 and 2 year contracts if 189 isn’t a mandate.

    I think I’ll have a wait and see attitude towards these comments.

  61. Against All Odds October 1st, 2013 at 6:53 pm

    blake October 1st, 2013 at 5:34 pm
    Again I say…..actions speak louder than monologues

    ——————————————

    They always do.

  62. kd October 1st, 2013 at 6:57 pm

    does they opening payroll or the payroll for the entire year have to be under 189?

    could they make a trade mid season and avoid the luxury tax penalty?

  63. Hankflorida October 1st, 2013 at 7:01 pm

    Shame Spencer October 1st, 2013 at 6:10 pm
    No offense Hank, but if the plan is to eek into the playoffs using that WC2 slot next year then they should just blow the whole thing up. Whatever parts they can, anyway. Because if you start a season aiming for the very last spot open, you really don’t have any room for error. And good luck in that one game playoff.

    You are right just look at this year, but without the injuries, the Yanks could have been playing tomorrow. I am not saying that they are aiming for a WC but it is there, and if you couple the restrictions of the cap, how are you going to build a division winning team with power and a pitching staff to fit the Stadium? What I am trying to do is take what the Yankees have and see if minor adjustments can fit the cap while bringing a hope for a playoff team. If Soriano can play left with Granderson and Gardener, maybe the Yanks could get a Ibanez DH instead of a Hafner. Is Reynolds worth a shot at third with his home run potential until A-Rod returns? What I write is speculation sprinkled with some hope, but the truth that hovers over this team is the grim reality
    of the cap which reared it’s ugly head when Suzuki replaced Swisher this year.

  64. blake October 1st, 2013 at 7:49 pm

    “The only problem I have with your idea(s) are that I don’t see the Yankees doing things that way.”

    Oh there’s no way they will…..when have they ever listened to me ;)

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