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MLB responds to A-Rod’s lawsuit

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 04, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Major League Baseball issued the following statement in response to the lawsuit filed by Alex Rodriguez:

“For the more than four decades that we have had a collective bargaining relationship with the Major League Baseball Players Association, every player and club dispute has gone through the jointly agreed upon grievance process. This lawsuit is a clear violation of the confidentiality provisions of our drug program, and it is nothing more than a desperate attempt to circumvent the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

“While we vehemently deny the allegations in the complaint, none of those allegations is relevant to the real issue: whether Mr. Rodriguez violated the Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Program by using and possessing numerous forms of prohibited performance-enhancing substances, including Testosterone and human Growth Hormone, over the course of multiple years and whether he violated the Basic Agreement by attempting to cover-up his violations of the Program by engaging in a course of conduct intended to obstruct and frustrate the Office of the Commissioner’s investigation.”

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60 Responses to “MLB responds to A-Rod’s lawsuit”

  1. Warning Track Power October 4th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    GO AROD GO

    Cheering for ARod over here

  2. RayVT October 4th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue October 4th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
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    And ARod’s team can say the Arbitrator is bought just like the evidence.

    Ys Guy October 4th, 2013 at 12:14 pm
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    I think you have it wrong over who pulled the end run. It was MLB that did not follow the CBA. ARod’s team is saying they should have followed the CBA. Am I missing your point somehow?

  3. blake October 4th, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    “This lawsuit is a clear violation of the confidentiality provisions of our drug program, and it is nothing more than a desperate attempt to circumvent the Collective Bargaining Agreement.”

    the hypocrisy of this statement coming from MLB is too funny for words

  4. RayVT October 4th, 2013 at 12:22 pm

    pat October 4th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
    “No arbitrator is going to ask for an offer of proof, throw out evidence, or anything else.”

    I’ve actually just gone thru Arbitration with the IRS & the Arbitrator ask me about everything. More info, new details, questioned the IRS agents documents etc. Finally he offered a discount to me (said it was 25% off but was really 11.5% off.) I declined. Next step is Tax Court in 2014.

    The arbitrator thru out evidence.

  5. Ys Guy October 4th, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    I think you have it wrong over who pulled the end run. It was MLB that did not follow the CBA.

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    acutally you have it wrong. the CBA says that this is subject to arbitration, which is what is happening.

    before the arbitrator even decides the case, arod is suing.

  6. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 4th, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    Arbitrators are not bound by the rules of evidence. They use whatever the want in making their decision. They do not officially preclude evidence, the way a court would. It’s a much more relaxed hearing.

  7. RayVT October 4th, 2013 at 12:26 pm

    Ys Guy October 4th, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    Thanks! I see what you are saying. But isn’t ARods case against MLB (Bud) separate from CBA?

  8. Ys Guy October 4th, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    i’d be willing to bet that no court will take the case until after the arbitration and very possibly an appeal to the NLRB.

    anybody can file a suit, whether any court decides to take the case is another story.

  9. RayVT October 4th, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    Ys Guy October 4th, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    What I’m asking is, ARod’s case against MLB is that he was personally attacked by Bud & MLB officials who violated the CBA>

  10. Warning Track Power October 4th, 2013 at 12:29 pm

    RayVT October 4th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
    trisha – true pinstriped blue October 4th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
    ========================================
    And ARod’s team can say the Arbitrator is bought just like the evidence.

    Ys Guy October 4th, 2013 at 12:14 pm
    ===============================
    I think you have it wrong over who pulled the end run. It was MLB that did not follow the CBA. ARod’s team is saying they should have followed the CBA. Am I missing your point somehow?
    ——————————————————————————
    I have been thinking the same thing silently for months now

  11. RayVT October 4th, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    WTP

    Are we related? LOL! Same here.

  12. Shame Spencer October 4th, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    blake October 4th, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    “This lawsuit is a clear violation of the confidentiality provisions of our drug program, and it is nothing more than a desperate attempt to circumvent the Collective Bargaining Agreement.”

    the hypocrisy of this statement coming from MLB is too funny for words

    ————————–

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

  13. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 4th, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    Both sides are posturing. I wouldn’t get too hyped up about anything thrown out there by either side.

    What is really going to matter, and what none of us presently knows, is what evidence was brought to the fore in the arbitration. What slime ball Selig did in the past about turning his head to the PEDs issue will be of little to no matter since MLB has since suspended players for PEDs usage, and suspended Braun for more than 50 games and suspended others involved in Biogenesis. If a court of law believes that with all of the evidence presented MLB was acting in good faith, then it won’t find for Arod.

    The reason I’m taking the suit with a total grain of salt right now is that I am totally aware of how Tacopina operates. I don’t trust him any more than I trust Selig.

    **************

    I’d love to be able to get in the minds of MLB players to know how they feel about this suit, in terms of Arod, and in terms of MLB.

    And oh yes, while he didn’t wait until the World Series this time, Arod manages to once again pre-empt the postseason.

  14. blake October 4th, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    The fact that literally every team with a managers spot open is dying to talk to Girardi should tell us all something

  15. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 4th, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    “The fact that literally every team with a managers spot open is dying to talk to Girardi should tell us all something”

    :)

    He isn’t perfect, but I love the guy.

  16. JimK October 4th, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    Trisha, from previous thread.

    Jim, what I’m saying is that arbitrators aren’t bound by rules of evidence. No arbitrator is going to ask for an offer of proof, throw out evidence, or anything else. Sure you can make an objection but again you’re at the mercy of the arbitrator

    Trisha
    Since an arbitration decision is binding and not subject to judicial review, outside the exceptions, I noted I totally agree with you

  17. blake October 4th, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    No manager is perfect but Joe is better than most

  18. Warning Track Power October 4th, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue October 4th, 2013 at 12:44 pm
    Both sides are posturing. I wouldn’t get too hyped up about anything thrown out there by either side.

    What is really going to matter, and what none of us presently knows, is what evidence was brought to the fore in the arbitration. What slime ball Selig did in the past about turning his head to the PEDs issue will be of little to no matter since MLB has since suspended players for PEDs usage, and suspended Braun for more than 50 games and suspended others involved in Biogenesis. If a court of law believes that with all of the evidence presented MLB was acting in good faith, then it won’t find for Arod.

    The reason I’m taking the suit with a total grain of salt right now is that I am totally aware of how Tacopina operates. I don’t trust him any more than I trust Selig.

    **************

    I’d love to be able to get in the minds of MLB players to know how they feel about this suit, in terms of Arod, and in terms of MLB.

    And oh yes, while he didn’t wait until the World Series this time, Arod manages to once again pre-empt the postseason.
    ———————————————————————————————
    In order to get answers to the questions you posed, the MLB media would have to actually practice journalism and ask the questions.
    Unfortunately the reporters/beat writers don’t have the stones do ask these questions, so will the fans like us ever really know how MLB players feel about the current situation.

  19. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 4th, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    “No manager is perfect but Joe is better than most”

    Agree.

  20. blake October 4th, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    @BillShaikin: This statement now in court record: “Pujols has never used steroids & has never taken illegal PEDs of any kind.” That’s at risk of perjury.

    How about forged a birth certificate?

  21. Warning Track Power October 4th, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    RayVT October 4th, 2013 at 12:31 pm
    WTP

    Are we related? LOL! Same here.
    —————————————————————–
    I feel like we are, LOL!!!

    Seriously, MLB has paid a known “drug dealer” for damaging testimony against ARod.
    What would some of the best NYPD detectives think about that? Almost all of them would be under the impression that “drug dealer” can and will say anything MLB wants to hear.

    Since Gio from the NATS was proven to be innocent, even though he was connected to
    Biogenesis, then how many more players could have walked into that clinic and done
    nothing wrong?

  22. yankinvegas October 4th, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    A few thoughts-
    I like Girardi, but I don’t think that any manager, other than the really good ones or the really bad ones, influences more than a couple of games a season. They all make the same moves. The problem with Joe is that he is managing in a division where 3 of his counterparts invented baseball – Maddon, Showalter and Farrell – and he just doesn’t measure up. Not!!!!!!
    On Cano, I really don’t think anyone will offer any player over 30 more than 6 years. And I think his market value was hurt by ‘lil Pedey taking bupkus from Boston. Keep him if you can and go to 6 for 162. That’s enough.
    On the Alex lawsuit – I am conflicted by the whole thing. I have never cared about PED’s but I want the team to get some relief from the contract. Stupid people need help sometimes. I don’t think that any Yankee fan alive can feel anything but total enmity towards Selig. He and his henchman have destroyed our dynasty. He is a small market hack and the fact that he will be in the HOF while Arod, Bonds, Clemens won’t be is sick. Not to mention Marvin Miller and The Boss.
    Oh yes, the thought of Bill Madden in a jail cell is off the charts great. No beers in the can, Bill!!

  23. blake October 4th, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    “I like Girardi, but I don’t think that any manager, other than the really good ones or the really bad ones, influences more than a couple of games a season. They all make the same moves. The problem with Joe is that he is managing in a division where 3 of his counterparts invented baseball – Maddon, Showalter and Farrell – and he just doesn’t measure up. Not!!!!!!
    On Cano, I really don’t think anyone will offer any player over 30 more than 6 years. And I think his market value was hurt by ‘lil Pedey taking bupkus from Boston. Keep him if you can and go to 6 for 162. That’s enough.”

    Disagree with both statements

  24. RayVT October 4th, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    Warning Track Power October 4th, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    I agree

  25. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 4th, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    WTP – you want to continue to ignore the fact that players involved with Biogenesis accepted suspensions. You also want to ignore the fact that Arod paid Bosch’s attorney $25,000 to help pay for Bosch’s defense.

    Arod paid the attorney of a known “drug dealer” to help with his defense. What would a court of law think about that?

    MLB promised Congress to investigate all known instances of PEDs usage. Maybe paying for the defense of a known drug dealer and indemnifying him in order to get that information will be considered totally appropriate. And another overlooked factor here is that the information dealt with more than Arod. If Arod’s pursuant behavior was scummier than that of the others, that’s on Arod, not on MLB.

  26. RayVT October 4th, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    I really haven’t cared much for Girardi until this year! Joe G showed his colors of integrity and compentency in a way I didn’t think he had in him! While I may not agree with everything he does & why should I or why should he, I think he did a terrific job!

  27. BIG AL October 4th, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    I hope A-Rod beats MLB on all counts!

    MLB can not point to 1 failed PED’s test by A-Rod, since the CBA made them illegal.

    Selig needs to get slapped down, and perhaps then he retires early.

  28. RayVT October 4th, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue October 4th, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    ARod’s team had to get whatever info Bosch provided MLB & MLB who had already bought the info wasn’t going to give it to them.

  29. RayVT October 4th, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    BIG AL October 4th, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    I agree

  30. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 4th, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    Really can’t bring myself too watch Game 2 between Pirates and Cards knowing that the Rays-Sux is coming on in a few hours. Too much baseball that doesn’t include the Yanks!

    Great day y’all.

    :)

  31. blake October 4th, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    I hope Arod loses the case and is suspended all 212 games but exposes MLB for the hypocrits they are in the process…..

    The Yanks would be much more flexible finanically in 2014 if Alex is suspended the whole year…..not only his salary but the the homer bonus of 6 million he’d certainly get if he played……yanks could have 33.5 more million to spend if he’s out the whole season

  32. Hankflorida October 4th, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    After the Black Sox Scandal, every player involved was suspended for life as there was no if’s, ands or buts. The fact that gambling was such a blatant crime against the game that even after the eyes of the law acquitted these players, the commissioner, Landis, never allowed them back into the game. Landis was insistent that regardless of the verdict of juries that a player who did not participate in the crime but knew about it and kept silent were still guilty. Just imagine if these enhancing drugs were in the same category as gambling, who through out the sport both player and executive would have dared to turn a blind eye to it?

  33. RayVT October 4th, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    I also think the $189M crap needs to end too as it is a tool to push folks against ARod as well. This whole thing seems too orchestrated from the gitgo. Not to mention how Beantown is always pure as gold on all these investigations.

  34. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 4th, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    “ARod’s team had to get whatever info Bosch provided MLB & MLB who had already bought the info wasn’t going to give it to them.”

    So you’re aware of the timing of this? Why don’t you tell me when MLB had obtained the information then.

  35. RayVT October 4th, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    Hankflorida October 4th, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    So true

  36. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 4th, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    Ray, now you’re really reaching. The $189 was mentioned a while ago. The Biogenesis stuff didn’t come out until this year!

  37. RayVT October 4th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue October 4th, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    All I know is what I have read about this just like you. MLB bought the info 1st after supposedly it was offered to ARod. Later ARod purchased info.

  38. RayVT October 4th, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    If ARod had purchased the info, then there would not have been info to sell to MLB or a need to purchase it.

  39. RayVT October 4th, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue October 4th, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    True

  40. randy l. October 4th, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    this is like watching a movie where there are no good guys, but some of the bad guys are more interesting than some of the others.

    the problem is we don’t get a resolution in a netflix two hour movie timeframe .

    this is going to drag on for a very long time.

    and i doubt very many people follow baseball or come to this site to listen to attorneys talk about legal issues.

    but baseball continually shoots itself in the foot with these kinds of things.

    as a yankee fan, does any of this make anyone run out and buy tickets .

    yet the yankees encourage major league baseball in the hopes of getting out of paying alex for the time he’s suspended.

    does anyone thing that mlb baseball doesn’t have the encouragement of hal and levine for going after alex ?

    or at the very least, does anyone think they called mlb and put in a good word for alex.
    of course they didn’t, everyone knows they are hoping mlb throws the book at alex. that’s a very strange situation .

    like i said, good luck selling tickets for next year.

  41. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 4th, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    “ARod’s team had to get whatever info Bosch provided MLB”

    If Arod had nothing to hide, why would he need to worry about what MLB had for information. And by all reports, Arod paid Bosch’s attorney $25,000 in February. MLB didn’t start to apply the heat to obtain information until March.

    As I said before, they’re all scum, and that includes the dirty player Arod. Keep defending him though. His cheating brings nothing but credit to the Yankees, right?

    Okay, now I am going. I’ll read any additional posts later so I won’t be tempted…

    See ya later.

  42. Ys Guy October 4th, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    obviously the longer arod gets suspended, the better for the yankees. he is nothing near a $25M/year player, hell he’s not even a $13M a year player. and he’s obviously not going to get better as he gets older and he’s obviously not going to get better without his drugs and his ped doctors. and his circus is obviously going to follow him everywhere he goes until he’s out of baseball.

  43. blake October 4th, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    If the Yankees are serious about spending again in 2015 then Alex getting suspended for all of 2014 would be huge for them…..you could likely pay both McCann and Choo’s 2014 salaries with the money saved .

  44. BIG AL October 4th, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    blake -

    Your statement surprised me.

    You are willing to have A-Rod suspended for the entire 211 games, because it helps the Yankees with their payroll?

    What ever happened to fairness?

    Even if A-Rod had tested positive, which he didn’t, he’d be suspended for 50 games under the CBA. The fact Selig hates A-Rod, and wants to make an example of him, should not deflect from the facts. Until we know all the facts, including a $5M payment, or bribe, by MLB to get testimony against A-Rod, we should all wait and see.

    The fact you’d be comfortable throwing A-Rod under the bus, to help the Yankees FO money wise, to me is unacceptable as a fan, or as a person.

  45. Pat M. October 4th, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    Maybe now we’ll find out who leaked this to Pate Abe’s old flame Selena Roberts back in 2009. Tin Cup, not naming The Yanks in the suit is clever because if Levine’s fingerprints are anywhere to be found, Selig’s Office will be the one under oath ratting them out. The Serf vs The Landlord in the Tower.

  46. Tackelberry October 4th, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    Pirates up 3-0 on Cards in the 3rd. Gerrit Cole on the mound. Oh.. what could have been!!

  47. blake October 4th, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    “You are willing to have A-Rod suspended for the entire 211 games, because it helps the Yankees with their payroll?”

    of course….it’s Hal’s fault for putting me in this corner. I am for fairness but honestly Alex has used twice, lied to everyone, acted like a moron etc and he can’t play anymore anyway……so I am forced to hope he loses for the good of the new penny pinching Yankees.

  48. pkyankfan69 October 4th, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    I’m a day late but what the hell…

    If there is ever a movie made about the Chad Curtis molestation trial… Tom Cruise should definitely get the lead role… The resemblance is undeniable:

    http://s1001.photobucket.com/u.....1&o=0

  49. blake October 4th, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    I have a hard time feeling sorry for Arod…..even though I think what MLB did to him was unfair…..I still have a hard time feeling sorry for a guy that’s made over 500 million bucks playing baseball and brought pretty much 100% of this on himself.

    If the suspension gets upheld then yes I will think it’s unfair based on the evidence I’ve seen……but also yes I will be happy because that helps the Yankees out tremendously.

  50. tomingeorgia October 4th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    We’ve either Cotton Mathers or Turn’em Loose types judging here.

  51. Ys Guy October 4th, 2013 at 2:14 pm

    mlb hasnt really dont anything to arod yet. they are seeking to have him suspended, but whether he is and how long his is suspended for is up to the arbitrator.

    meanwhile arod has cheated and repeatedly lied about it.

    according to what i read in the new times and other sources, arod actually took peds more than 90 times.

    we’ll see how long he’s suspended for but cheating (knowingly taking PED’s) more than 90 times is detestable.

    now what i’d like to know is where are all the people who condemned braun last offseason and said he only got off on a technicality? isn’t it just a technicality that allowed arod to play this season and another technicality that keeps him from being charged with 90+ violations of the rules of baseball?

  52. BIG AL October 4th, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    Ys Guy -

    No it’s not a technicality, because what you feel to acknowledge is the fact A-Rod only tested positive once, and that was before it was against MLB rules!

    Point to one test, other than the “does not count” test A-Rod failed, you can’t.

    You read something in a newspaper, and that makes it a fact, are you kidding me?

  53. BIG AL October 4th, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    fail – not feel to acknowledge

  54. mick October 4th, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    Why the allure for Girardi?
    Where are all the naysayers who lambasted the team all year?
    Does Girardi get the credit for playing the replacements too?
    Right now he is looking for the best deal out there.
    He is tired of dealing with all the crap that comes with this job.
    He is like any FA using whatever leverage he has from his walk year toward a new and better contract.
    Don’t let the Mgr fool you, it’s much more about the players.

  55. JM October 4th, 2013 at 2:25 pm

    New thread ——————->>>>>>

  56. mick October 4th, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    of course….it’s Hal’s fault for putting me in this corner. I am for fairness but honestly Alex has used twice, lied to everyone, acted like a moron etc and he can’t play anymore anyway……so I am forced to hope he loses for the good of the new penny pinching Yankees.
    ======================
    Well said. Agree.

  57. tomingeorgia October 4th, 2013 at 2:29 pm

    Ys Guy,
    According to what you know from a supermarket rag and leaks from MLB, do you feel perfectly informed to render judgment? Braun’s situation relied on procedural flaws in handling the evidence. Could Arod’s situation be similar?

  58. mick October 4th, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    The fact you’d be comfortable throwing A-Rod under the bus, to help the Yankees FO money wise, to me is unacceptable as a fan, or as a person.
    =================
    Big Al

    How is he throwing him under the bus?
    Just being real and looking out for the team.
    Alex is done and appears to be thumbing his nose again.

  59. BIG AL October 4th, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    mick -

    Because he’ more concerned with the Yankees getting salary relief, than whether or not A-Rod is being treated fairly.

    If MLB can do whatever they want to A-Rod, then just about every other player will fall in line out of fear, not facts.

  60. mick October 4th, 2013 at 2:40 pm

    big al

    either you root for the underdog or root for fairness.
    i like the fair route but get the feeling , as with OJ, he is guilty but the evidence might be polluted.

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