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Steinbrenner says Yankees won’t go 10 years for Cano

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 08, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Robinson CanoIn his second of two mid-day radio interviews, Yankees owner Hal Steinbrenner made it clear this afternoon that he’s not willing to give another 10-year deal to any player, including Robinson Cano.

“I don’t feel that this organization is ready to do something like that,” Steinbrenner said on the Michael Kay Show. “No, I do not. I know that’s a number that’s out there right now. We’ll see if he gets it, how much he wants to be in New York, but I can promise you it’s going to be a very, very solid offer that we do make because we’re going to try. We’re going to try the best we can to keep him.”

The bulk of Steinbrenner’s interview with Kay was essentially the same as his previous interview with Mike Francesa, but he did talk a little more about the Cano negotiations in this second radio appearance, making it clear that he does not view Cano has a must-have player.

“I’m optimistic,” Steinbrenner said. “I know we’re going to make him a very, very good offer. Is anybody an absolute, must-sign? No. It’s nothing against Robbie, but that’s just not reasonable to assume that about anybody. We’re going to do what we can, and we’ve certainly conveyed to Robbie that we want him back, we want him to be a career Yankee, and we’ll just have to see what transpires here.”

Steinbrenner repeated his comments about getting below $189 million (“a very serious goal”), the struggles of the minor league system (“we’ve got some concerns”) and negotiations with Joe Girardi (“my guess is it’s going to be done, one way or the other, relatively shortly”). Just like Francesa, Kay asked for Steinbrenner’s reaction to diminished attendance and ratings.

“I always felt somewhat disappointed for the players, because there were a lot of great stories on that club,” Steinbrenner said. “… That’s just New York, and I think there were a lot of faces people didn’t recognize, names people didn’t recognize too, I’m sure. And it did have an impact.”

Steinbrenner declined to give a cutoff date for the Girardi negotiations, but said he has not begun to make a list of possible replacements as manager.

“We haven’t even talked about it yet,” he said.

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127 Responses to “Steinbrenner says Yankees won’t go 10 years for Cano”

  1. Warning Track Power October 8th, 2013 at 5:10 pm

    Yankee Trader October 8th, 2013 at 5:08 pm
    WTP

    Sorry, wrong choice of words. His father wanted him to go to college. It wasn’t meant as the fault of the Yankees, but more like an unlucky draw.
    ————————————————————————————-
    Unlucky draw is a great description of the situation.
    Of course seeing what we see currently, Cole would fit very well in a Yankees
    rotation.

  2. MTU October 8th, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    Translation: In all that we do we will stay within our budget.

    ;)

  3. Warning Track Power October 8th, 2013 at 5:12 pm

    Hal-Say no to 10 years with Cano. There is no player currently on the Yankees roster
    that deserves a 10 year deal.
    Unless the final 5 years are not-guaranteed, LOL!!!

  4. tomingeorgia October 8th, 2013 at 5:14 pm

    Let’s go, A’s ( for no particular reason), and Let’s go, Rays (everybody knows why)!

    Tomorrow, it’s Bucco time!

  5. MTU October 8th, 2013 at 5:15 pm

    YT-

    I think there was some deception there on the part of Cole’s old Man.

    But that’s just a guess.

    You don’t suddenly decide you want your kid to go to college.

    That would have been a known as part of DD.

    So either someone dropped the ball or someone was deceived.

    No one is going to go above a certain value for a draftee.

    And I’d bet the offer was very generous for a talent like Cole.

  6. MTU October 8th, 2013 at 5:18 pm

    They took an additional risk too.

    What if Cole had hurt his arm in college ?

  7. MTU October 8th, 2013 at 5:19 pm

    Tom-

    Oh yeah. Got to pull for the A’s.

  8. tomingeorgia October 8th, 2013 at 5:20 pm

    Mister MTU,
    He might have gotten an honest job.

  9. MTU October 8th, 2013 at 5:23 pm

    Tom-

    He came from wealth.

    His Father is a millionaire.

    Doubt he ever would get a working man’s job.

    He was a prep-type.

    ;)

  10. Yankee Trader October 8th, 2013 at 5:23 pm

    OK, I’m convinced the Yankees 40 man payroll will be <189M. Not knowing until possibly well into the FA period, whether ARod will have a suspension, and if so how much salary relief they will have, plus if Cano takes his time to decide, it's going to be difficult to fill their other holes with other FA's.

  11. Warning Track Power October 8th, 2013 at 5:31 pm

    MTU October 8th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
    They took an additional risk too.

    What if Cole had hurt his arm in college ?
    —————————————————————-
    What if Cole injures his arm while wearing a Pirates uniform?
    I think just about every MLB pitcher is going to injure their arm sooner or later.
    Mo is an anomaly.

    Look at how careful the Nats were with Strasburg and he still injured himself seriously.

  12. MTU October 8th, 2013 at 5:34 pm

    WTP-

    My point was that he had an offer in had that would have made him wealthy.

    He risked that to go to college w. the hope he could get more.

    It turned out that the gamble paid off.

    All young arms at risk w. that I can agree.

    It’s called the “injury matrix” time.

    Stops at about 26-27. Risk goes down but is not zero.

  13. MTU October 8th, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    hand.

  14. MTU October 8th, 2013 at 5:37 pm

    Sogaard looks like Clark Kent.

  15. Warning Track Power October 8th, 2013 at 5:38 pm

    C’mon Joe, make up your mind already.

    I can’t decide if the longer it takes for him to decide is better/worse
    for the Yankees.

    I want Girardi back. Hope he feels the same as most of us.

  16. tomingeorgia October 8th, 2013 at 5:42 pm

    MTU
    If I were his Pop, I would have decreed the same thing. I didn’t have a deprived background, and my dad always wanted success for me, so he made me study. Of course, I couldn’t throw a 100 mph fastball, either. Seems to be working out, tough.

  17. Yankee Trader October 8th, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    From RAB’s on Gerrit Cole:

    http://riveraveblues.com/tag/gerrit-cole/


    The 2008 draft was a special case for the Yankees, who obviously shot for the moon with Gerrit Cole but failed to sign him. They would have been one of the top spenders had he agreed to turn pro. Second rounder Scott Bittle didn’t sign because the Yankees didn’t like the medicals, so that contributed to the relatively small amount of spending they did. The two compensation picks in the 2009 draft turned into Slade Heathcott and J.R. Murphy, who received over-slot bonuses in part because the Yankees had little leverage. Had they not signed those two, they wouldn’t have gotten another compensation pick the next year. Their hands were tied, they had to sign those guys otherwise it would have been two straight drafts without two top draft picks.”

  18. tomingeorgia October 8th, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    “though”

  19. MTU October 8th, 2013 at 5:46 pm

    Tom-

    My folks insisted on education too.

    And my Father was truant officer so I did not miss much school ( :) )

    I just think Cole’s Father may have played it fast and loose w the truth is all.

    Maybe a little bit of a bait-and-switch sort of thing.

  20. Yankee Trader October 8th, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    Also from the above article:

    “Scouting director Damon Oppenheimer told K. Levine-Flandrup that the team’s draft budget is flexible and they can drop big money on a kid if they believe he’s worth it, but we just haven’t seen those kinds of deals handed out the last two years. I honestly don’t think it’s a coincidence that the draft spending has gone down since it became apparent that Brackman, Suttle, and Angelini were starting to look like flops after the 2009 season. I can’t tell you who made the decision to scale back on the spending (Oppenheimer? Brian Cashman? ownership? all of the above?), but their recent drafting a spending habits certainly suggest that someone put the clamps down.”

    See more at: http://riveraveblues.com/tag/g.....yhWis.dpuf

  21. Yankee Trader October 8th, 2013 at 5:58 pm

    Time to go. Have a great evening. Go see Gravity in 3D when you have a chance.

  22. Doreen October 8th, 2013 at 5:59 pm

    My take is they will try to sty at The budget number, but if it looks like they need reinforcement they won’t hesitate to go over. Now, whether that is as they are putting a team together or sometime during the season? I don’t know.

    I am glad they won’t go to 10 years in Cano.

  23. MTU October 8th, 2013 at 6:02 pm

    Doreen-

    I don’t think anyone is going to offer Cano 10 guaranteed yrs.

    I feel fairly certain that the Yankees will stay within 189 at least until the TD.

    They might change it up then depending on the circumstances.

    Bet they will be monitoring the gate all season.

    ;)

  24. tomingeorgia October 8th, 2013 at 6:07 pm

    MYU,
    The Gummint has sucked up all the rounds. Sucks.

  25. fantasygame101 October 8th, 2013 at 6:09 pm

    6 yrs with an incentive for a 7th yr. that is the highest I will go for cano.

  26. Hankflorida October 8th, 2013 at 6:10 pm

    Hal said, “he does not view Cano as a must-have player” especially when it comes to a ten year contract. By going public, is he softening the blow for us when Cano leaves by depicting him as a selfish player? Girardi may have been told that he should not expect Cano and Granderson to be on the team next year and has received a list of who the Yankees are trying to get. Does anyone wonder why Girardi is looking elsewhere.

  27. Warning Track Power October 8th, 2013 at 6:13 pm

    Hankflorida October 8th, 2013 at 6:10 pm
    Hal said, “he does not view Cano as a must-have player” especially when it comes to a ten year contract. By going public, is he softening the blow for us when Cano leaves by depicting him as a selfish player? Girardi may have been told that he should not expect Cano and Granderson to be on the team next year and has received a list of who the Yankees are trying to get. Does anyone wonder why Girardi is looking elsewhere.
    ——————————————————————————————————-
    Slow your roll there Hank.
    This is all about posturing.
    One side goes high, the other counters low and so on and so on.

    You are projecting a lot without having any direct knowledge of the situation.

  28. MTU October 8th, 2013 at 6:18 pm

    Tom-

    I have no such issues.

    Must be lucky.

    :)

  29. pete2 October 8th, 2013 at 6:23 pm

    If the Yankees are going to wait until December/January to know about Cano and Arod before knowing how much they can spend, all the affordable free agents will be long gone.

    Yankees final offer to Cano should already be in and he should be given a deadline to accept by mid Nov or the offer will be off the table. As for Arod, they have to assume he gets a suspension of 100 games. Might be a bit more or less but he wont get off with less than Braun.

    The fact Hal is even thinking it is possible to field a championship caliber team with a payroll of of 189 million (180 in salary) shows he is either delusional or has nothing but contempt for the intelligence of Yankee fans.

    No wonder Girardi is thinking of leaving, he probably knows the Yankees have no intention of fielding a competitive team and are locked in on 189. Many fans assume they just want to reset the tax and they will spend big in 2015, but more likely is the revenue sharing rebates are driving this goal, and if that’s the case they would want to be under the threshold every year.

    See how they feel when attendance drops 1 million next year and ratings at YES drop another 35%. That could cost them close to 100 million.

  30. MTU October 8th, 2013 at 6:24 pm

    Bye bye Tigers.

  31. tomingeorgia October 8th, 2013 at 6:25 pm

    MTU,
    Ir you have enough. Wife wants to use her childhood 22 t least one more time, can’t find any.

    Go, A’s!

  32. tomingeorgia October 8th, 2013 at 6:31 pm

    A little too much preprandial Early Time accounts for the spelling. Sorry.

  33. MTU October 8th, 2013 at 6:35 pm

    Tom-

    Don’t use that caliber.

    I can take a look around.

    Have you checked the Net ?

  34. MTU October 8th, 2013 at 6:36 pm

    Looks like that was a bit premature.

    :(

  35. tomingeorgia October 8th, 2013 at 6:50 pm

    MTU,
    Yep, and the local stores, too. The one store that has them is gouging big time, so I won’t deal with them. They tried to double the price on a bersa 380, too. To hell with them. Found one new in a North Georgia pwn shop, at list. Found enough rounds for that, But 22s, ferchrissakes?

  36. MTU October 8th, 2013 at 6:52 pm

    Tom-

    Obviously very popular.

    ;)

  37. yankeesfan October 8th, 2013 at 6:54 pm

    The Yankees are going to feel the pain when their seats are empty. Yankees fans, like myself that paid money to watch the team play, want to see superstars on the field. The Yankees are not Tampa bay or the Pirates, the Yankees will never get that talent from the draft. The Yankees need to start spending money to be able to compete with teams like Boston.

  38. Pat M. October 8th, 2013 at 6:58 pm

    Here’s the story on Gerrit Cole from several ( including Coach Savage at UCLA ). Gerit was adamant about signing with The Bombers, however being a minor and wasn’t to turn 18 until after the signing date and with the pressure from Mr. Cole who controlled his son from his early days as a youth ballplayer, it was UCLA and that was the bottom line…. I watch Cole pitch often for Orange Lutheran and he could bring it but truth be told he was very immature for his age and talents. UCLA was the right ticket for him and the old man was right……He is the one that got away though. That being said, he wasn’t as good as Hughes was in HS

  39. blake October 8th, 2013 at 7:03 pm

    Interesting bringing Scherzer in now….I guess Verlander goes on short rest in game 5 if they win?

    If you’ll bring max in in the 7th…..shouldn’t you have just started him?

  40. Giuseppe Franco October 8th, 2013 at 7:04 pm

    This team doesn’t need superstars on the field.

    They just need enough solid and very good players to win ballgames.

  41. blake October 8th, 2013 at 7:06 pm

    Giuseppe Franco says:
    October 8, 2013 at 7:04 pm
    This team doesn’t need superstars on the field.

    They just need enough solid and very good players to win ballgames.

    Which is why they probably should let Cano walk and use his money to sign 2 or 3 good players to shorter deals …..

  42. Pat M. October 8th, 2013 at 7:07 pm

    Tough Series for Austin Jackson.

  43. Shame Spencer October 8th, 2013 at 7:07 pm

    I’m surprised about Scherzer too.. Would today normally be his bullpen day? I know it’s not the same thing, but I know managers have made moves like this before with that line of thinking.

  44. Giuseppe Franco October 8th, 2013 at 7:09 pm

    I can’t disagree with that, Blake.

  45. blake October 8th, 2013 at 7:10 pm

    This is 3 days rest for Scherzer ….maybe Leyland thought he could give them a couple of innings but not a full game.

    They can throw Verlander on short rest in game 5 if they win…..but it’s an elimination game so gotta win today first .

    Cabrera and Fielder have 1 RBI in this series

  46. MTU October 8th, 2013 at 7:11 pm

    Thanks for the inside story on Cole Pat.

    Do you think the Father was disingenuous w Boras, or do you think he was straight up the whole way ? Any idea ?

    :)

  47. yankeesfan October 8th, 2013 at 7:11 pm

    What team is in the playoffs that doesn’t have superstars and only has good solid players? Be careful what you wish for.

  48. luis October 8th, 2013 at 7:11 pm

    They should have traded him during the season, get some talent and sign him on this winter again…We would have added talent and kept Cano at the same time

  49. yankeesfan October 8th, 2013 at 7:14 pm

    The Oakland A’s and Atlanta Braves don’t count they make the playoff every 10 years.

  50. Shame Spencer October 8th, 2013 at 7:14 pm

    Cabrera and Fielder have 1 RBI in this series

    ———–

    If the A’s pull this out, I’m sure there will be a lot of discussion about how different the series would have been with a healthy Cabrera playing. But those are the breaks..

  51. yankeesfan October 8th, 2013 at 7:15 pm

    Luis, I agree with that point, but now is too late. Yankees are going to have match whatever Cano gets in the open market, or else they are toast. If is 8 years they better pony up.

  52. Shame Spencer October 8th, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    TBS is anti-replay.

  53. Shame Spencer October 8th, 2013 at 7:17 pm

    Oh wow…

  54. luis October 8th, 2013 at 7:17 pm

    It was a homer no matter what, he wasn’t going to catch that ball anyway

  55. Shame Spencer October 8th, 2013 at 7:20 pm

    luis – Yeah if he was able to make that catch it would have had to have been outside the field of play, so that’s a good call.

  56. blake October 8th, 2013 at 7:20 pm

    yankeesfan says:
    October 8, 2013 at 7:11 pm
    What team is in the playoffs that doesn’t have superstars and only has good solid players? Be careful what you wish for.

    What team is in the playoffs with one good player and a bunch of old men? I think that’s the point with Cano…..if they aren’t gonna put stuff around him then it’s a waste…..and this club is way more than 1 player away

  57. MTU October 8th, 2013 at 7:20 pm

    This is Oakland’s go to lefty ?

    :(

  58. luis October 8th, 2013 at 7:21 pm

    YF,

    I wouldn’t go beyond 7 years…I don’t think he gets 8 anywhere either… In all honesty, what they should have done is to extend him two years ago until his age 36 year… But it is too late… they have been so slow to adapt to the new reality…Letting contracts expire, no extensions and no trading present for future is going to come and bite them in the rear

  59. Hankflorida October 8th, 2013 at 7:21 pm

    Slow your roll there Hank.
    This is all about posturing.
    One side goes high, the other counters low and so on and so on

    Warning Track, I am not disputing the negotiation process, but I couple Hal’s comments on Cano
    with the fact that Girardi is hesitating to sign on because he may have the direction that the Yankees are taking. If the situation does not look good for Granderson or Cano as part of the team and the list of their replacements does not satisfy him, Girardi may look for greener pastures in Chicago. Hal has taken to the airwaves pretty early in the game, and in my book, it may be damage control. I hope I am wrong and you right as I would like to see Girardi, Cano and Granderson in pinstripes next year.

  60. Shame Spencer October 8th, 2013 at 7:21 pm

    Peralta a hero.. amazing.

  61. pat October 8th, 2013 at 7:23 pm

    Never say never. If Cano would take 7 years of salary front loaded (7/$190) spread over 10 Years (10/$190) to lower AAV, I’d give him a 10 year deal.

  62. luis October 8th, 2013 at 7:26 pm

    pat,

    The problem still is the AAV…

  63. Pat M. October 8th, 2013 at 7:28 pm

    MTU…..The speculation is that Coach Savage talked Mr Cole into sending him ( Cole ) going to UCLA. Cole was excited as was the old man when the Yankee scouts were clamoring all over Cole as was Scott B. Something changed after the HS playoffs because when I watched him pitch in the Orange County All Star game ( Higashogiwa was his catcher and hit the game winning dinger ) Cole was talking about playing with The Yanks and Derek Jeter and all…..It was an extreme turn around but a few guys think the way the Yanks handled Hughes and Kennedy around that time set off a few red flags. It’s a shame that he didn’t sign though because he sweats and reeks of talent

  64. blake October 8th, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    pat says:
    October 8, 2013 at 7:23 pm
    Never say never. If Cano would take 7 years of salary front loaded (7/$190) spread over 10 Years (10/$190) to lower AAV, I’d give him a 10 year deal.

    Why would he take 10/190 when somebody will offer him 8/200 or more most likely though?

  65. yankeesfan October 8th, 2013 at 7:35 pm

    pat-

    Thats a good idea. but it’ll probably take more common sense than you can find in the Yankees front office. The Yankees have been able to upset players in negotiations, even when the player is a first ballot hall of famer and the face of the franchise, leaving a bad taste in every bodies mouth. No wonder players don’t want to play for us unless they are 35 years old and busted. Please tell me what is the reason the owner of the team has gone in to several radio shows and say no player is a must sign? cant they say that in doors? unless they want to make Cano upset and make him refuse any offer they throw at him so they can tell fans they tried and please keep spending hundreds to watch the crappy team we have put on the field.

  66. blake October 8th, 2013 at 7:40 pm

    Trouble here

  67. pat October 8th, 2013 at 7:48 pm

    “Why would he take 10/190 when somebody will offer him 8/200 or more most likely though?”

    Depends on what he wants.

    There will be off field money to be made in NY during his playing career, there is value in being a career Yankee and they could “unofficially” offer him a Reggie deal with the organization post career to round it out.

    Where there’s a will there’s a way if you know how to be creative in negotiations.

  68. Duh Innings II October 9th, 2013 at 3:33 am

    The Yankees would be fools to give another decade-long contract to a player considering how the last one (A-Rod) has turned out. They can’t sign a guy through age 41 (as Cano turns 31 on November 22.)

    Dustin Pedroia signed an eight-year $110M extension with the Red Sox, David Wright a seven-year $138M extension with the Mets.

    I think 7 years x $20M a year = $140M is more than fair for these reasons:

    1. It’s as many years and $2M more than Wright’s extension and $30M more than Pedroia’s extension, making Cano the highest paid secondbaseman in baseball and I believe in MLB history, not to mention it would most likely be the biggest contract of the offseason. No one in the division has a contract as big as 7 years and $140M. Only seven AL players would have bigger contracts than Cano if Cano accepted $140M: Fielder, Verlander, Cabrera (all Tigers), Pujols, (Angels), Felix Hernandez, Joe Mauer, and A-Rod which gives Cano the fifth-biggest contract in the league outside of Tigers and second-biggest contract in the league outside of Tigers, AL Central, and AL West players. If A-Rod’s career is over after this or next season, Cano would have the biggest contract in the league for a non-Tiger/AL Central/AL West player.

    2. It’s the second-largest contract in years and money for a homegrown Yankee and only $49M less than the record contract (Jeter’s decade-long $189M contract) for three less years of work.

    3. It affords Cano the possibility to collect his 3000th hit or come close to collecting it as a Yankee and be yet another Yankee who played with the team for at least sixteen years (2005-20) and never played for anyone else if he retires after 2020 or whenever and remains a Yankee. He’s a retired number Yankee if he produces seven more seasons like his first nine and a first-ballot Hall Of Famer (who is inducted as a Yankee) if he collects 3000 hits. He could be the next Yankee captain after Jeter.

    4. Cano could have the unique distinction of being the only Joe Torre on homegrown Yankee to have won a World Series with and without The Core Four, Cashman, Girardi, and possibly the Steinbrenners if they sell the team. Jeter will most likely return to the Yanks next year. If he does and it’s his final season as a Yankee (possible) or ever (unlikely unless he’s so bad at the plate and/or in pain he will retire), that gives Cano SIX SEASONS to win a World Series without The Core Four and possibly the aforementioned people and entities.

    ‘Great thing about 7 and 140 is the Yanks could backload the contract so Cano makes $15M a year 2014-16 (the final three years under contract with the Yanks for Sabathia and Teixiera) then $23.75M a year 2017-20. He’d be 37 at contract’s end and 38 at the start of 2021. Who’s to say he couldn’t re-sign for a year or two with or without a club or mutual option?

  69. Duh Innings II October 9th, 2013 at 3:42 am

    Let’s look at

    Rodriguez $275M RIDICULOUSLY OVERPAID
    Pujols $240M RIDICULOUSLY OVERPAID
    Fielder $214M OVERPAID
    Mauer $184M OVERPAID considering the position he plays and the physical toll it already has taken on him
    Verlander $180M BORDERLINE OVERPAID as once again he can’t get it done in the postseason
    Hernandez $175M WORTH EVERY PENNY
    Cabrera $152M WORTH EVERY PENNY AND UNDERPAID

    Cano CANNOT make as much as or more than Cabrera, no how, no way.

    $140M is only $12.3M less than what Cabrera got. Cabrera will win his second ALMVP award and back to back ALMVP awards after this season. How many ALMVP awards does Cano have? Cabrera has as many World Series rings as Cano and one more WS appearance than Cano and could have two more WS appearances than Cano if the Tigers beat the As then the Red Sox in this postseason.

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