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Girardi’s new role: Stability in a time of uncertainty

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 10, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Joe Girardi

In six years as Yankees manager, Joe Girardi has won a World Series once and missed the playoffs twice. He’s seen the death of George Steinbrenner and the retirement of Jorge Posada. He’s benched Alex Rodriguez, trusted A.J. Burnett, and orchestrated Mariano Rivera’s emotional farewell. He’s seen Derek Jeter struggle, bounce back, break his ankle and struggle to stay on the field.

But after signing a four-year deal that will keep him on the Yankees bench through 2017, Girardi’s greatest challenges might very well be ahead of him, whether he chooses to think of it that way or not.

“I don’t look at that,” Girardi said. “I have faith in our organization that they’re going to give us whatever we need and whatever they can to make this the best team that we can be, and to be a championship caliber club. I know there’s a lot of things to answer to this year, question marks that we have, but I have faith.”

Faith is big with Girardi. He’s a religious man, but he’s also a loyal and trusting man. He believes in his players, believes in his front office and believes in ownership. There was no doubting him when he said he fully expects to win another championship in these next four years. There ws also no doubting him when he said he was prepared for a challenge. He’d have to be.

Lyle Overbay, Joe GirardiRobinson Cano is a free agent. So is Curtis Granderson. So are three-fifths of the Yankees regular rotation. Jeter and Mark Teixeira are coming back from serious injuries, most of the outfield is aging and the bullpen is relatively untested. No one knows whether Rodriguez is going to play next season.

All of the faith and loyalty in the world can’t let a man ignore those facts.

“I think there is obviously a lot more work to do this offseason than there has been in the past, just because of retirement, free agency, players leaving and having to build certain areas of your club,” Girardi said. “Not knowing who your five starters are, not knowing who your bullpen is going to be, certain positions on the diamond not sure if they’re going to be there. I did look at that. That doesn’t scare me. That’s part of the game and that’s part of the challenge. As a competitor, I like challenges, so I look forward to them.”

The final year of Girardi’s new contract is also the final year of Rodriguez’s contract. If CC Sabathia’s vesting option kicks in, he’ll also be there in 2017, but that’s it. Those are the only current Yankees under contract through the length of Girardi’s new deal, and the Yankees front office has a stated goal of cutting payroll while preparing for those inevitable personnel changes.

Girardi is a man of faith and loyalty, he’s by-the-book, and by signing a new contract in this time of transition, he’s a source of real stability heading into a period of absolute uncertainty.

He might be perfectly suited for the job. It might also be a full four years before we know for certain.

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273 Responses to “Girardi’s new role: Stability in a time of uncertainty”

  1. pkyankfan69 October 10th, 2013 at 8:55 am

    We could add some further stability by:

    Resigning Cano
    Resigning Kuroda
    Resigning Ryan
    Signing Choo
    Signing McCann
    Signing Abreu
    Signing Tanaka
    Signing one of Mujica/Balfour/Benoit

    Hal, if your reading this, this is your pathway to success… Screw 189, open that wallet.

    I promise I will buy a Jose Abreu jersey!

  2. 4TrainNorth October 10th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    We’ll probably sign Bobby Abreu.

    Anyway, about last night’s game, the Cardinals absolutely bore me to tears. And if I have to suffer through another Cards-Sox series, I might be driven to watching preseason basketball.

  3. Tackelberry October 10th, 2013 at 9:05 am

    I think Abreu (Not Bobby) makes sense cause no guarrantee Texeira will be 100%. Wrist injuries are very tough to predict. COuld reoccurr at any time. Tanaka is a no brainer. Posting fee does not count against luxury tax so Yanks need to bid pretty agressively here. Don’t see McAnn or Choo here next season. Just have a feeling Cash will protect that draft pick pretty heavily unless overruled by Steinbrenner and Levine. I’d be happy with Abreu, Tanaka, Peralta/Drew, and one of Garza/Nolasco

  4. 4TrainNorth October 10th, 2013 at 9:18 am

    I think signing McCann truly hinges on what happens with A-Rod. If the suspension is upheld, my guess is McCann is a Yankee in two seconds. People can stay high on Romine all they want, and get excited about how good the Yankees “feel” about Murphy, but I doubt the Yankees have any real confidence in their young catchers. I just don’t see it. To me, this offseason is McCann or bust.

  5. longtimefan October 10th, 2013 at 9:18 am

    Does a four year deal for Girardi mean the coaches get a four year offer as well?

  6. blake October 10th, 2013 at 9:26 am

    “Hal, if your reading this, this is your pathway to success… Screw 189, open that wallet.”

    Bravo

  7. blake October 10th, 2013 at 9:28 am

    I want McCann but I think ultimately he will stay in Atlanta…..

    I really think they are gonna hoard that first round pick…..they’ll probably sign Cano and my guess if anything else big happens it’ll be via trade.

    They should call Colorado and offer whatever it takes to get Tulo

  8. Hassey October 10th, 2013 at 9:28 am

    I’m sorry, but time goes fast and I love giving unsolicited advice, so I have to repost this:
    —————————
    Can it really be TEN years since the Pedro-Zim throw down, the Clemens Manny brawl, that insanely windy game six and the Boone HR?

    Ten?

    Is that even possible?

    Young guys pay heed…time goes FAST

  9. pkyankfan69 October 10th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    I could live with Cervelli behind the plate if the rest of the IF was Tex-Cano-Tulo-Jeter and Abreu @ DH of course.

  10. GregD October 10th, 2013 at 9:35 am

    I keep hearing that McCann can probably only catch 60-70 games…..is this true?

  11. pkyankfan69 October 10th, 2013 at 9:35 am

    Gardy – CF
    Jeter – 3B
    Cano – 2B
    Tulo – SS
    Tex – 1B
    Abreu – DH
    Soriano – LF
    Cervelli – C
    Ichiro/Wells – RF

    Little too right handed heavy, esp for NYS, but I’d take it.

  12. bruceb October 10th, 2013 at 9:36 am

    Does a four year deal for Girardi mean the coaches get a four year offer as well?

    Francesa asked Girardi the question (twice) about whether the same coaching staff would be back next year and he remained non-committal. He said he had to sit down with Cashman and discuss it.

    No doubt our hitting coach will receive another Long contract. The players like him – and it seems that’s the only thing that matters.

    Was Rothschild any better than Eiland? Was Eiland any better than Guidry? And so on…

    Talk about jobs for the boys.

  13. blake October 10th, 2013 at 9:40 am

    GregD says:
    October 10, 2013 at 9:35 am
    I keep hearing that McCann can probably only catch 60-70 games…..is this true?

    He played 102 games this year and caught 92 of them so no I don’t think that’s accurate

  14. blake October 10th, 2013 at 9:40 am

    The coaches don’t matter all that much….they need better players

  15. pkyankfan69 October 10th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    $100M + Heathcott + Austin + Ramirez + Ichiro for Tulo + Cargo

    Gardy – CF
    Jeter – 3B
    Cano – 2B
    Tulo – SS
    Cargo – RF
    Abreu – DH
    Tex – 1B
    Soriano – LF
    Cervelli – C

    That’s more like it.

  16. blake October 10th, 2013 at 9:50 am

    No way they could get Cargo and Tulo but maybe they’d trade one…..I dunno…..Id certainly ask about Tulo

  17. randy l. October 10th, 2013 at 9:51 am

    2013 WAR (fangraphs)
    jose tabata- 1.1
    austin jackson-3.1
    jesus montero – -.4

    3.8 total WAR

    all players don’t work out each year, but on the long run how does a team rebuild if it doesn’t go with most of it’s standout minor league players. the red sox traded iglesias but they have boegarts . maybe this trade works for the red sox, but it was based on two players at the same position.

    the yankees have no such riches.
    and whats up with the red sox coming up with not one but two excellent shortstops from their minor league system.

    how is the yankee minor league system not a fail as far as everyday players for the sat 3-4 years?

  18. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 9:53 am

    Good morning.

    If Cano happens to leave (I hope not) it get could get interesting.

    There would be a lot more money to spread around.

  19. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 9:56 am

    There are lot’s of teams all over Abreu and if the Yankees want him they’ll have to compete for him.

    Something they don’t seem inclined to do of late.

    Same should be true of Tanaka.

  20. 4TrainNorth October 10th, 2013 at 9:57 am

    Like seeing all these ideas. I just don’t get how anyone would want to see Cervelli back behind the plate. He’s a cheater, plain and simple — and a guy who had to cheat just to crack the major leagues. If we’re going to entertain the idea of playing known cheaters, I at least want a Papi-type user, i.e., someone who’s an AS when on the juice and is seemingly above the law.

  21. Doreen October 10th, 2013 at 9:58 am

    Would like to keep Cano, but MTU, I do agree that having that money to use elsewhere could actually help more.

    Randy l -

    Tabata? Really????

    On Jackson I get torn because I really was/am a Granderson fan, but I had also been looking forward to seeing him in MLB Pinstripes. And you know how I feel about Montero.

    But Tabata????

  22. DONNYBROOK October 10th, 2013 at 9:58 am

    The Yanks won 85 games last season, did Not make the Playoffs, and had their attendance and ratings decline. THAT mandates change, Not stability. Hal and Company continue to show they are qualified for 1 thing and 1 thing Only. Serving in Congress.

  23. joeman October 10th, 2013 at 9:59 am

    pkyankfan69 October 10th, 2013 at 9:41 am
    $100M + Heathcott + Austin + Ramirez + Ichiro for Tulo + Cargo

    Gardy – CF
    Jeter – 3B
    Cano – 2B
    Tulo – SS
    Cargo – RF
    Abreu – DH
    Tex – 1B
    Soriano – LF
    Cervelli – C

    ——————————–
    seeing that catcher makes me want to vomit

  24. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    We have 4 excellent OF prospects in Williams, Heathcott, Flores, and Austin.

    I’m betting at least one, maybe 2, break out this season.

    We have 2 high quality young arms in Banuelos and J-Ram at the AAA level.

    We have a really promising young C at AA.

    Things aren’t all that terrible. More time is required is all and some luck.

  25. Doreen October 10th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    Right, if we’re gonna have cheaters, we need smart ones who don’t get caught! ;)

  26. pkyankfan69 October 10th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    What’s a good guess on the contracts for Abreu and Tanaka.

    5 years – $60M for Abreu?

    4 years – $40M + $25M posting fee for Tanaka?

  27. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 10:01 am

    Doreen-

    I’m content to let the chips fall where they may with Cano.

  28. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 10:03 am

    69-

    Abreu should get Puig-type money. 40 Mil plus.

    No idea on Tanaka.

  29. Doreen October 10th, 2013 at 10:03 am

    MTU -

    I have really liked what I’ve seen in Heathcott, Flores and Austin. Heathcott scares me because I can see him spending more time on the DL than in the OF. Austin was just really heating up when he got injured, but even before, he had really good at-bats. A tough out. Flores almost always seemed to have a good all-around game when I saw him.

    I think there’s some luck involved, and staying healthy, for sure, and a modicum of patience. If it’s just one year away, I think we should all be able to withstand a tough 2014 season? Which, by the way, I’m not ready to write off yet. Let’s see where the winter takes us first.

    As for the pitching, I am not sure.

  30. blake October 10th, 2013 at 10:04 am

    “5 years – $60M for Abreu?

    4 years – $40M + $25M posting fee for Tanaka?”

    Those are pretty good guessss I think…..you never know with teams though

  31. Doreen October 10th, 2013 at 10:05 am

    MTU -

    Re: Cano, that’s all we can do. As Girardi says, it takes two to tango, plus I don’t want them to put all their eggs ($) into one basket and have nothing left for anything else. It’s counterproductive.

    I want Cano to stay because he is a homegrown star and should be a Yankee for life just because. But I know that the Yankees will survive (ultimately) as they have for ages, because, we all do, right?

  32. blake October 10th, 2013 at 10:07 am

    Sign Cano
    Trade for Tulo
    Sign McCann
    Sign Tanaka

    We have a baseball team…..of course Hal is sad

  33. 4TrainNorth October 10th, 2013 at 10:08 am

    How many bombs would Abreu with the aid of YS?

  34. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 10:09 am

    Doreen-

    I always favored trading Heathcott for that very reason. He reminds me of Lenny Dykstra, Ellsbury, or GGBG.

    Only even more aggressive. I think lot’s of DL time is in the cards.

    As to the others people don’t realize how potentially good those kids might be.

    Banuelos and J-Ram are poised to take the next step this season.

    And we have plenty more behind them in DePaula, Mitchell, etc.

    It will be an interesting OS no doubt.

  35. blake October 10th, 2013 at 10:09 am

    4TrainNorth says:
    October 10, 2013 at 10:08 am
    How many bombs would Abreu with the aid of YS?

    Probably more than Ichiro

  36. joeman October 10th, 2013 at 10:11 am

    blake October 10th, 2013 at 10:07 am
    Sign Cano
    Trade for Tulo
    Sign McCann
    Sign Tanaka

    We have a baseball team…..of course Hal is sad

    —————————–
    they have nobody to trade for Tulo

  37. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 10:12 am

    Evolution rather than Revolution.

    Those expecting the latter are going to be disappointed.

    ;)

  38. blake October 10th, 2013 at 10:13 am

    —————————–
    “they have nobody to trade for Tulo”

    Take all of his contract and trade what they do have …..they should ask anyway

  39. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 10:13 am

    Joeman-

    We have guys who could net us Tulo easily only problem is that we shouldn’t trade them.

    ;)

  40. Doreen October 10th, 2013 at 10:14 am

    It sure would be easier if some rogue team would come along with a pocketful of extra cash offering to buy all the Yankees problems away from them… and also throwing in a decent prospect or two…

  41. Wang IS Taiwan October 10th, 2013 at 10:15 am

    If you like Tyler Kepner, and I do, this interview is worth a read:

    http://www.jeffpearlman.com/th.....er-kepner/

  42. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 10:16 am

    Doreen-

    We aren’t the Sux.

    And there only so many Dodgers to go around.

    And that also assumes we want to be creative.

    I don’t see that. I see evolution instead.

  43. mick October 10th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    I would gamble trading Nova in a package for Tulo.

  44. Doreen October 10th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    I know it’s crazy to depend on prospects who are suspects, but as good as Tulo is, do you want to be facing an other Granderson situation? Where we traded away a very good prospect in Jackson and a good/very good pitcher in Kennedy, and other teams reap the benefits of their development? And I was okay with the Granderson trade when it happened (well, okay is relative – I wanted Granderson and to be able to keep Jackson and Kennedy, but that wasn’t happening).

    And because those prospects are likely a whole year away from making an impact, it will take more of them to get Tulo. And Tulo will be fading just as these guys are making a contribution.

    It’s not a science and you don’t know, but at some point, you have to give your best prospects a shot in your own organization, don’t you?

  45. joeman October 10th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    the conversation here for the last month was that there is no help on the way from the minors, now names are thrown around that help could be on the way..think back when was the last time a few players actually came up from the minors and helped this team..I think only 3 of them are even ranked in the top 100 as minor league prospects at this time

  46. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    Mick-

    It would just create another huge hole on our pitching staff.

    Who would you replace Nova’s production with ?

    Or do you not think he found something lasting in the 2nd half last year ?

    My view is that he did.

  47. joeman October 10th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    mick October 10th, 2013 at 10:17 am
    I would gamble trading Nova in a package for Tulo.

    ————————-
    bet you would

  48. Doreen October 10th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    MTU -

    I don’t assume they won’t be creative. I’m really not assuming anything at this point. But simply because of the way the situation looks, I’d agree evolution is more likely than revolution, and that might not be a bad thing. Evolution tends to stick; revolutions can be more volatile.

    Baseball is very different now than it was just a few years ago. With parity pretty much in place, anything is possible from one year to the next.

  49. mick October 10th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    Tulo will be the next Jeter here.
    If they are looking to find a new core, he makes sense as a starting point.

  50. Wave Your Hat October 10th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    I don’t believe the Yanks have the horses to land Tulo. Nova is an excellent asset, but other teams have excellent assets as well plus better minor league assets closer to the majors.

  51. Doreen October 10th, 2013 at 10:22 am

    No “immediate” help on the way from the minors, is how I’d characterize it. Then it becomes a matter of which minor leaguers to keep and which to trade, and you hope they make the right decisions.

    Yeah, yeah, I know where you all are going with that one…. LOL …

  52. joeman October 10th, 2013 at 10:22 am

    BTW…Troy Tulowitzki is a good player but gets hurt often

  53. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 10:22 am

    Joeman-

    The talent is there. No one can say if they will reach there ceiling or not.

    That depends on a lot of factors.

    But to suppose that the past means that the present will automatically yield the same outcome is wrong IMO.

  54. mick October 10th, 2013 at 10:23 am

    Nova is just very flaky.
    He can lose it for weeks/months without notice.
    Hal would love Tulo here and give Cash the order in a heartbeat and say goodbye to Cano.
    They will be back in the FA market in a year or so and get pitching.

  55. Doreen October 10th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    But the real question is why on earth would Colorado trade Tulowitzki????

  56. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    WYH-

    Not everyone is interested in obtaining Troy.

  57. mick October 10th, 2013 at 10:25 am

    There have been rumors they want to trade Tulo.

  58. Wave Your Hat October 10th, 2013 at 10:26 am

    “Not everyone is interested in obtaining Troy.”

    That is fortunate, because pinstripes aren’t in his immediate future.

  59. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 10:28 am

    Mick-

    I think you answered my question on your view of Nova.

    My view is different. I think he found something permanent at the end of last year.

    His sinker/curve combo is very, very effective.

    I hope he sticks to that and doesn’t tinker.

    I see him with 15/20 game potential.

    A solid #3 possibly more.

    Yankees can’t afford to move him w/o having a replacement and they just don’t right now.

  60. mick October 10th, 2013 at 10:28 am

    This is going to be an interesting off season.
    LoHud should be buzzing….

  61. mick October 10th, 2013 at 10:30 am

    My view is different. I think he found something permanent at the end of last year.
    =============
    MTU

    Isn’t that a leap of faith considering his history?

  62. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 10:30 am

    WYH-

    It’s all just speculation.

    One thing you can say is that he is a stud.

    If he were available and we were a match I’d love to have him.

    Never hurts to dream. And when you do it pays to dream big.

    ;)

  63. Doreen October 10th, 2013 at 10:30 am

    Well, the owner just said this:

    http://www.denverpost.com/rock.....source=rss

    Now, it could be posturing, but at the very least, it sure means that if they trade Tulo they’d have to be getting something amazing back in return.

    The Yankees have nothing amazing to return.

  64. joeman October 10th, 2013 at 10:30 am

    Tulo has missed 220 games in the last 4 years and makes 18 mil per

  65. blake October 10th, 2013 at 10:30 am

    Wave Your Hat says:
    October 10, 2013 at 10:21 am
    I don’t believe the Yanks have the horses to land Tulo. Nova is an excellent asset, but other teams have excellent assets as well plus better minor league assets closer to the majors.

    Me neither but it wouldn’t stop me from trying

  66. blake October 10th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    joeman says:
    October 10, 2013 at 10:30 am
    Tulo has missed 220 games in the last 4 years and makes 18 mil per

    He’s also one of the 10 best players in baseball and plays a position they desperately need

  67. 4TrainNorth October 10th, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Is Tulo too old?

  68. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Mick-

    It is. But it’s my belief.

    I think he has happened onto the right combo.

    I think someone in the minors helped him to finally figure it out.

    He doesn’t use that 4 seamer as much.

    That’s the pitch he was having trouble commanding.

    Maybe I’m wrong ? We’ll see.

    If I am then he was an excellent sell high candidate and you can chastise me later.

    :)

  69. Wave Your Hat October 10th, 2013 at 10:34 am

    “Me neither but it wouldn’t stop me from trying”

    For sure, I was not saying don’t try, just predicting the outcome.

  70. blake October 10th, 2013 at 10:34 am

    Tulo is 29 so you’re looking at 3 or 4 more good years…..

  71. blake October 10th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    I think Andrus is more realistic than Tulo as Texas has a built in replacement right away and also because at the moment his contract looks worse

  72. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    Tulo does get hurt a bit more than you’d like.

    But what a stud.

  73. Doreen October 10th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    Colorado wants a pitcher, and plans on spending money on one. Hughes? But he’s a free agent, an so the Yankees get nothing for that.

    The Yankees already have a deficit in the rotation, which is why I don’t think Nova is expendable right now.

    And there’s no Andy Pettitte sitting in his man cave waiting for a phone call from Brian Cashman anymore to help fill the gap.

    Even if Kuroda comes back, I don’t think you can count on him to be the stalwart he was for most of the year, even if you manage his innings differently.

    The rotation is CC, Nova, and three ???s.

  74. 4TrainNorth October 10th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    Tulo and Cano — not bad. And then McCann behind the plate and we’re done.

  75. joeman October 10th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    blake October 10th, 2013 at 10:31 am
    joeman says:
    October 10, 2013 at 10:30 am
    Tulo has missed 220 games in the last 4 years and makes 18 mil per

    He’s also one of the 10 best players in baseball and plays a position they desperately need
    —————————–
    what good is he if he’s not on the field

  76. mick October 10th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    MTU

    What do you think of going after LIncecum?

    Does he have anything left?

    If not, maybe as the closer or set up man.

    We really don’t have a set up man, maybe Betances, if not dealt?

  77. blake October 10th, 2013 at 10:37 am

    “what good is he if he’s not on the field”

    The risk you take to try and get good again

  78. Doreen October 10th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    The article in the Denver Post made it sound like Carlos Gonzalez and Troy Tulowitzki are cornerstone pieces to that team, and they intend to build around those two players.

    I just don’t see a fit, if the owner was posturing, between the Yankees and the Rockies. Sure, Tulo is a really good player at an area of need, but if you have to give up your #2 pitcher to get him, it doesn’t seem to make sense.

  79. joeman October 10th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    4TrainNorth October 10th, 2013 at 10:35 am
    Tulo and Cano — not bad. And then McCann behind the plate and we’re done.

    ——————————–
    that’s about 60 mil per

  80. blake October 10th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    4TrainNorth says:
    October 10, 2013 at 10:35 am
    Tulo and Cano — not bad. And then McCann behind the plate and we’re done.

    It would energize the fanbase a lot and it would instantly make them competitive again

  81. mick October 10th, 2013 at 10:39 am

    Tulo and Cano seems like an impossibility.

  82. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 10:39 am

    Mick-

    I still think Timmy has something left in the tank.

    So yes, I’m interested in him.

    I’m still not a believer in Betances even though I see the potential.

    I’m in a show-me mode w him.

    I like Kelley as our SUM. He’s solid.

  83. blake October 10th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    mick says:
    October 10, 2013 at 10:39 am
    Tulo and Cano seems like an impossibility.

    It probably is but it makes me happy to think about it

  84. joeman October 10th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    blake October 10th, 2013 at 10:37 am
    “what good is he if he’s not on the field”

    The risk you take to try and get good again

    ————————————
    not as good but just remember Youkilis and his 12 mil …track record my man

  85. Doreen October 10th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    And I know most of you think they should address the offense first, but what good is having Tulo, Cano and McCann if your starters are a struggling CC (there IS that possibility), Nova, and ???

    Phelps?
    Adams?
    Nuno?
    Pineda?

    I’m not exactly enthused. IF Pineda is healthy and pitches like they expected, IF Nuno can be as good as he was in his call-up this past season, IF Phelps is healthy and a little more consistent, IF Adams wasn’t affected by fewer innings pitched.

    Too many ???? Too many IFs.

  86. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 10:42 am

    Evolution not Revolution.

    That’s what’s likely to happen.

    It begins this coming year and picks up steam in 2015.

  87. mick October 10th, 2013 at 10:42 am

    If they don’t trade Betances they would be crazy wasting that arm as a middle reliever a la Joba.
    I can see him as a potential closer or , at least, given a shot.
    DRob is not a given, we saw that when Soriano took over in 2012.

  88. Doreen October 10th, 2013 at 10:43 am

    Plus, after all the injuries they just went through this past year, I would hope they’d try to avoid any player that is a high injury risk.

    I like Tulo.

    Just don’t see anything like that happening.

  89. blake October 10th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    “————————————
    not as good but just remember Youkilis and his 12 mil …track record my man”

    Hardly the same thing

  90. mick October 10th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    Yanks won’t pay top dollar for a Lincecum being in garage sale mode this year.
    It all depends what other teams will offer.

  91. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    Doreen-

    I want Hiroki back w better management of his innings.

    I rest him early so that he has the gas for the post-season.

    Since we’ll have more guys healthy this coming year it should be easier to accomplish.

    I do the same w CC. Give him a little more rest.

    Save the bullets for when it really counts.

    ;)

  92. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    Mick-

    I’d expect Lincecum to draw plenty of interest.

  93. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 10th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    Gang, answer me this. What makes you think that the Yankees will go after a marquis SS with Jeter still on the payroll? Do you think that the Yankees are going to pay to have two top-flight SS, and if Jeter does come back well, do you really think either Jeter or Troy will be happy to platoon the position – and if they do, do you think either one will really be able to give his best by not playing all the time? If you’re looking to spend money wisely, shouldn’t it be at a position where there is immediate need?

    Also, I agree that Tulo does get hurt a lot, and I don’t know if that’s something we want to knowingly buy into.

  94. mick October 10th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    Phelps?
    Adams?
    Nuno?
    Pineda?
    =========
    Warren deserves a shot. Phelps is a given. Nuno and Pineda are questionable.
    I think Kuroda will return.
    Banuelos will have his shot.

  95. 4TrainNorth October 10th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    Put the financial implications and all aside for a second, and what this team needs are guys you look forward to seeing come to the plate — energizing the fan base is paramount. We had exactly one of them last season (until Soriano showed up).

  96. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    Trisha-

    It’s all speculative.

    Just Hotstove chatter.

    It passes the OS.

    :)

  97. randy l. October 10th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    “But Tabata????”

    doreen-

    http://www.piratesprospects.co.....while.html

    his manager seems to kind of like him

    my point is to be really careful in thinking you know a kid .

    people act like it’s over when a kid does something they don’t like.

    tabata a head case at 20. leading off for a team that makes the playoffs at 25.

    i’m more saying looking to the future, shouldn’t the yankees be extremely careful about letting some of their young players go now.

    you think there won’t be temptation to trade some of the double a offensive prospects for pitching?

    based on past experience, why do the yanks have the same people making these decisions?

  98. pkyankfan69 October 10th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    Betances starts in middle relief next year… Hopefully he earns being moved to the back of the BP but you can’t just start him back there. It would have been nice if he could have pitched more innings at the end of this year… If he’s awful I’m sure he will just be released considering he doesn’t have any more options.

  99. mick October 10th, 2013 at 10:49 am

    Tulo idolizes Jeter , he wears his #.
    He would be willing to go to 3rd . If Jete can’t handle SS then he can try 3rd or DH with Tulo at SS.

  100. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 10:49 am

    Mick-

    I agree w those names.

    J-Ram might be another to add to your list.

    Kid is a stud.

  101. Doreen October 10th, 2013 at 10:49 am

    MTU -

    That’s definitely a good strategy.

    I definitely have to take a back seat in the winter. I have no idea what’s going to happen, and I disagree with a lot of the general consensus here. Which is okay and fine, but I’ll be pretty reticent on most topics.

    I understand wanting Tulowitzki, I just feel like it won’t be a good move if it happens, but mostly I just don’t see it happening.

    Plus, there’s Jeter, and how they choose to handle that situation. I’m guessing SS is his to lose and I don’t envy the Yankees their position here. It’s tricky. But it could take care of itself, depending on how Jeter’s winter of rehab/strength building goes.

  102. blake October 10th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    If you get Tulo then he’s playing SS…..that couldn’t be a question. Jeter would have to move to 3B

  103. mick October 10th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    MTU

    What about DePaula?

  104. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    Montgomery and Whitley are 2 other names who might be filling BP spots at some point next year.

    And don’t sleep on Claiborne. He’s a good one. He was tired at the end of the season last year.

  105. joeman October 10th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    blake October 10th, 2013 at 10:44 am
    “————————————
    not as good but just remember Youkilis and his 12 mil …track record my man”

    Hardly the same thing

    —————————————
    Tulo can’t stay on the field..

  106. blake October 10th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    I’m probably the biggest Jeter fan and supporter on here and Id be in favor of forcing him to move for Tulo…..he’s a decade younger and much better defensively at this point. Jeter would understand and if he didn’t that would be pretty disappointing

  107. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    Mick-

    Stud. Just further down in the system.

    Might be the best single arm we have.

    Still ironing out the kinks.

  108. mick October 10th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    Jeter has 1 year left on his contract.
    Who will play SS after he is gone?
    Tulo is a no brainer if they can get him.
    Hal is salivating as we speak…

  109. Wave Your Hat October 10th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    If the Yanks have an opportunity to acquire a front line shortstop it would be a mistake to let Jeter stand in the way. Odds are Jeter doesn’t end up as the primary shortstop anyway.

  110. jpb173 October 10th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    There should be three non-negotiables for this offseason:

    1. Steer clear of Jose Dariel Abreu (big, slow-footed first basemen are easy to find)
    2. Don’t give Cano more than a 6 year contract (hopefully we’ve learned something from the long-term messes that we have with ARod and Sabathia), and
    3. Don’t go over $189M (most of the sacrifice to get there has already happened and this year’s free agent class isn’t that great…save the $$$ and reset the luxury tax to 17%)

    Go Yankees!!!

  111. 86w183 October 10th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    Trading Nova would be foolish. There are three openings in the rotation right now, creating a fourth would be brainless.

    The Yanks won’t be spending major assets on a SS while Jeter is trying to get ready for the 2014 campaign. The focus should be on C and an impact bat at DH/OF.

  112. blake October 10th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    —————————————
    “Tulo can’t stay on the field..”

    He played 120+ games this year and posted a 140 OPS+…..even if he misses a month of every season he’d be extremely valuable

  113. pkyankfan69 October 10th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    Kahnle has a shot to make the BP too I would think.

    We are excellent at producing right handed relievers.

  114. blake October 10th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    As I’ve said before….the first step in moving Jeter is to actually get a SS better than him

  115. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 10:54 am

    Doreen-

    If anyone can beat the odds it’s Derek.

    I know he’s gonna give it everything he’s got.

    I want to see him go out like Mo. On top.

    :)

  116. blake October 10th, 2013 at 10:55 am

    “The Yanks won’t be spending major assets on a SS while Jeter is trying to get ready for the 2014 campaign. The focus should be on C and an impact bat at DH/OF.”

    It would be foolish to plan on Jeter even playing half the games at SS at his age and with the injury he suffered……it’s possible for him to do it yes…..but they shouldn’t put their eggs in that basket and it’s unlikely to be successful

  117. mick October 10th, 2013 at 10:55 am

    This team is in rebuilding mode. What would anyone expect?
    This is an exciting time .
    Why dwell on what could have been?
    They will be more attentive to international prospects and recover…

  118. Wave Your Hat October 10th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    Chasing Abreu is not feasible. For better or worse Teixeira is the Yankee first baseman for the foreseeable future. Hopefully, for better.

  119. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 10:57 am

    Our BP should be one of the least areas of concern.

    We are loaded w talent in that department.

    We should be looking to leverage some it for other things we need.

    Remember. No one will ever replace Mo. So don’t use that as your standard.

  120. joeman October 10th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    blake October 10th, 2013 at 10:53 am
    —————————————
    “Tulo can’t stay on the field..”

    He played 120+ games this year and posted a 140 OPS+…..even if he misses a month of every season he’d be extremely valuable

    —————————-
    and how about the 120 games he missed in 12

  121. blake October 10th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    Wave Your Hat says:
    October 10, 2013 at 10:56 am
    Chasing Abreu is not feasible. For better or worse Teixeira is the Yankee first baseman for the foreseeable future. Hopefully, for better.

    Abreu would be nice for when Tex gets hurt pressing juice or whatever

  122. blake October 10th, 2013 at 10:59 am

    —————————-
    “and how about the 120 games he missed in 12″

    That hasn’t been the norm for him to miss that much time

  123. Wave Your Hat October 10th, 2013 at 10:59 am

    “Abreu would be nice for when Tex gets hurt pressing juice or whatever”

    I agree but he’s going to be too expensive for a backup, isn’t he?

  124. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 10:59 am

    Blake-

    That should be Kendrys.

    ;)

  125. Doreen October 10th, 2013 at 11:00 am

    Randy,

    I agree with this:

    “i’m more saying looking to the future, shouldn’t the yankees be extremely careful about letting some of their young players go now.”

    It’s been several years before Tabata could have some success; at the time he was expendable, because there was no need for him (the ML team was still strong), PLUS, they were having difficulties with him.

    They do have a need now, if they are serious about the new tactic of staying under the LT, to give their minor leaguers a bit more time.

    And yes, I am still concerned they could trade that promise away.

    But, if they do, the return is what I’d have to look at. I was not 100% disappointed with the return when they traded for Granderson – I had mixed feelings about losing Jackson and Kennedy, but thought Granderson was a good get. At the time and under the circumstances, I was not disappointed at the return on Tabata. I was very disappointed with the return on Montero – my first reaction after “WHY???” was “Who the heck is Michael Pineda?”

    I don’t want to continue to have excitement about AA players that I may never get to see become Yankees. But you have to understand, most of the players I’ve seen in person the last few years, none of them was a total no brainer to keep.

    Thing is, who owns that crystal ball that tells you which ones are the keepers?

    Obviously they’re not all going to pan out. I’d like for them to pick the correct ones to keep.

  126. mick October 10th, 2013 at 11:00 am

    Using Hughes as the example, if we would have traded him at his top value we might have gotten something of value.
    Nova could be at his peak value right now.
    Whether it’s right or wrong , if Hal , like his Dad, sets his eyes on Tulo, he might try to make it happen.
    Nothing we can do about it but hope it works.

    I’m sure he would think Tulo is more of a draw than Nova, win or lose.

  127. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 11:00 am

    Kendrys as DH/1b.

    Perfect for NYS.

    He will cost that draft pick thought so that sucks.

    :(

  128. blake October 10th, 2013 at 11:01 am

    “I agree but he’s going to be too expensive for a backup, isn’t he?”

    Well we could use a DH too…..really just need real offense of any kind

  129. Doreen October 10th, 2013 at 11:05 am

    In fact, most of the AA players that did impress me were on other teams…Hanley Ramirez, Starling Marte were two of them. And a Phillies pitching prospect this past year whose name escapes me right now.

  130. Tackelberry October 10th, 2013 at 11:05 am

    MTU October 10th, 2013 at 11:00 am
    Kendrys as DH/1b.

    Perfect for NYS.

    He will cost that draft pick thought so that sucks.

    ________________________________________

    So then cross him off as Cashman won’t surrender draft pick for a DH

  131. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 11:05 am

    Mick-

    I see where you are coming from.

    I just disagree w your take on what Nova is.

    If we knew with certainty that he will remain inconsistent, which there is evidence showing, I’d be right there w you.

    As I said before, I just think he won’t be as inconsistent anymore.

    I base that on the weapons he is now using unlike the ones he relied on in the past.

    He commands that sinker and curve really well.

  132. Doreen October 10th, 2013 at 11:06 am

    I wish I had saved all my score sheets. I’d love to research where all those players have gone. :)

  133. Wave Your Hat October 10th, 2013 at 11:06 am

    “Well we could use a DH too…..really just need real offense of any kind”

    Have to save DH for an over-the-hill once upon a time All-Star.

  134. Tackelberry October 10th, 2013 at 11:07 am

    Wave Your Hat October 10th, 2013 at 10:59 am
    “Abreu would be nice for when Tex gets hurt pressing juice or whatever”

    I agree but he’s going to be too expensive for a backup, isn’t he?

    _______________________________________________

    Not when you consider his age (26) and the fact that he won’t cost a draft pick and the fact that Tex is fragile

  135. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 11:07 am

    Tackel-

    Probably. I was hoping that the M’s wouldn’t go for the QO.

  136. joeman October 10th, 2013 at 11:07 am

    blake October 10th, 2013 at 10:59 am
    —————————-
    “and how about the 120 games he missed in 12?

    That hasn’t been the norm for him to miss that much time

    ———————————————–
    better go back a look at his games played….and why would Colo want to trade a top ten player in BB…for as some say Nova and unproven minor league players

  137. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Randy-

    Some prospects are designated as future Trade bait from the day they are signed.

    It is an efficient way to run the MiLB system.

    The problem any team has is self-scouting accurately.

    We need to be able to do that.

    If we aren’t then we’d better get back to being good at it because it’s a critical function.

    Newman should be reading the want Ads IMO.

    But there seems to be little propensity for change in spite of the fact that it is sorely needed.

    I don’t think Hal has those type of leadership skills unfortunately.

  138. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 10th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    “This team is in rebuilding mode. What would anyone expect?
    This is an exciting time .
    Why dwell on what could have been?
    They will be more attentive to international prospects and recover…”

    This I agree with. I think it’s an amazingly exciting time!

    ************

    MTU, I guess that’s when I get confused, when I don’t know if people are suggesting things that they actually think could happen, or they are suggesting things they’d like to see happen but know they probably will not happen!

    ************

    I’m not against Jeter moving, and I have no idea whether the Yankees will insist on it seeing Jeter definitely does not have the cachet he did in the past, but if you move him to third, what happens when and if the albatross returns to the team? Doesn’t he own third until 2017 or something like that?

    :mad:

  139. blake October 10th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    “———————————————–
    better go back a look at his games played….and why would Colo want to trade a top ten player in BB…for as some say Nova and unproven minor league players”

    Salary relief and rebuilding….and I have looked at his games played.

    He’s failed to play 120 games twice in his career and only once in the last 5…..he does get banged up a lot but usually plays most of the season

  140. Tackelberry October 10th, 2013 at 11:16 am

    Yanks have already said that Jeter is not moving. He is either playing SS or DHing

  141. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 10th, 2013 at 11:17 am

    “Have to save DH for an over-the-hill once upon a time All-Star.”

    You know that’s the Yankee way! And when teams insist on giving out long-term contracts, then your DH position necessarily becomes a rest home. We’re there now with a few guys.

  142. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 11:17 am

    Trisha-

    I guess you just have to ask is all I can say.

    In my case, I put dreams out there as well as what I think are more realistic ideas.

    It passes the long Winter.

    :)

  143. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 10th, 2013 at 11:18 am

    “Yanks have already said that Jeter is not moving. He is either playing SS or DHing”

    Well then there you go. End of reality discussion on a top-flight shortstop, right?

  144. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 11:22 am

    The Yankees should add more MiLB instructors.

    And I’m glad they are taking a look at the conditioning people on that level too.

    There is definitely work to be done.

  145. blake October 10th, 2013 at 11:22 am

    Tackelberry says:
    October 10, 2013 at 11:16 am
    Yanks have already said that Jeter is not moving. He is either playing SS or DHing

    No they have said that that’s the plan right now…..obviously they aren’t going to make waves now .

  146. blake October 10th, 2013 at 11:23 am

    I listened to the interviews Cash did on Jeter….he basically sidestepped the questions and gave the same generic type answers he always does……he in no way said Jeter was absolutely going to play SS next year…..

  147. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 10th, 2013 at 11:26 am

    I put a suggestion out last night for a fun prediction chart based on what we think the organization will do in the off season. I don’t know if anyone’s interested but I’ll put it out again. No prizes for this one, just a pat on the back for a pretty good read! Once the off season is over and ST begins, we’ll put the real chart out there.

    Anyway, if you want to participate, let me know. Predictions have to be in before the start of the winter meetings and before QOs are put out! (tomingeorgia, now I understand what you meant).

    2014 JUST FOR FUN SEASON PREDICTION CHART
    trisha – 95

  148. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 11:28 am

    It would be foolish for anyone to sate w absolute certainty that Jeter will be at SS next year.

    Because no one, including Jeter, knows what his status will be come the Spring.

    I’m sure we all are hoping for the best but are realistic enough to see the obstacles.

    And that certainly has to include the Yankees.

    I can only hope that their is at least a plan B in place before then.

    I expect there would be.

  149. pkyankfan69 October 10th, 2013 at 11:28 am

    I’m tired of the DH being the resting place for our old guys… Get someone in there who’s sole purpose is to mash (ala Ortiz)… On days when Jeter/Tex/etc need a break let them sit on the bench.

  150. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 11:29 am

    sp: state

  151. Wave Your Hat October 10th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    “I’m tired of the DH being the resting place for our old guys…”

    I hear ya but when you have a team of old, hurt guys what else are you going to do?

  152. mick October 10th, 2013 at 11:37 am

    He’s failed to play 120 games twice in his career and only once in the last 5…..he does get banged up a lot but usually plays most of the season
    =================================
    Tulo would certainly benefit from DHing in the AL.
    We all know how Girardi feels about players getting their rest…

    Rooting for Donnie but Cards in 6.

  153. Wave Your Hat October 10th, 2013 at 11:38 am

    I don’t like the Dodgers on principle but I think they are the team to beat. Dodgers in 5.

  154. 86w183 October 10th, 2013 at 11:40 am

    My point on Jeter at SS is not to assume he’ll be there for 120+ games, but they won’t spend major resources to replace him until he retires. Until then it’ll be some combination of Nunez/Nix/Ryan that will be on hand for 2014.

    I definitely think the Yanks should pursue Abreu and Tanaka. Prime age talents with no draft pick compensation, limited impact on the luxury tax and relatively low risk.

    86 — 92 wins

  155. 86w183 October 10th, 2013 at 11:40 am

    Gotta run…. later gang

    Have a Day

  156. joeman October 10th, 2013 at 11:42 am

    RS..Cards ..WS

  157. blake October 10th, 2013 at 11:42 am

    It’s impossible to guess on 2014……they could lose 90+ if they make bad decisions

  158. blake October 10th, 2013 at 11:44 am

    My guess is Donnie will throw Kershaw 3 times in the NLCS if necessary …..which means you’ll have to face either Kershaw or Greinke 5 of the 7 games………they will be tough to beat I think

  159. joeman October 10th, 2013 at 11:48 am

    blake October 10th, 2013 at 11:44 am
    My guess is Donnie will throw Kershaw 3 times in the NLCS if necessary …..which means you’ll have to face either Kershaw or Greinke 5 of the 7 games………they will be tough to beat I think

    ———————————————————
    Wainwright should be able to pitch 2 games in the series

  160. blake October 10th, 2013 at 11:51 am

    The Cards could certainly win but their young pitching will have to step up and match LA…..should be a great series……

  161. austinmac October 10th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    DH is a position. The Sox have won two Series with a full time one. Last year the Yankees DH hit like an average NL pitcher. Jeter is not a DH. ARODis likely gone for next year. We don’t need to make it the old timer’s position. Adding offense at DH makes the team able to have a weak hitting catcher.

  162. joeman October 10th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    Cards just keep turning over good players from their farm

  163. joeman October 10th, 2013 at 11:55 am

    austinmac October 10th, 2013 at 11:54 am
    DH is a position. The Sox have won two Series with a full time one. Last year the Yankees DH hit like an average NL pitcher. Jeter is not a DH. ARODis likely gone for next year. We don’t need to make it the old timer’s position. Adding offense at DH makes the team able to have a weak hitting catcher.

    —————————————-
    or SS

  164. pkyankfan69 October 10th, 2013 at 11:55 am

    In Jose Abreu’s last 916 AB’s (4 seasons) he is hitting 407/.557/.845 with 111 home runs.

    I know that league is said to be equivalent to A ball but still… SIGN HIM

  165. Triple Short of a Cycle October 10th, 2013 at 11:56 am

    Cards just keep turning over good players from their farm

    ——————————————-

    But according to some on here you need to have high picks to do that

  166. joeman October 10th, 2013 at 11:58 am

    Triple Short of a Cycle October 10th, 2013 at 11:56 am
    Cards just keep turning over good players from their farm

    ——————————————-

    But according to some on here you need to have high picks to do that

    ——————————————
    well that proves you don’t..

  167. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 10th, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    blake – the point of the chart is just to see what people think the organization is going to do in the off season. It’s merely a guess. That’s why it’s a fun/not so much fun chart. It may or may not have any basis in the eventual reality. It really measures our assessment of/faith in the organization at this point in time.

  168. blake October 10th, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    “But according to some on here you need to have high picks to do that”

    Certainly helps …..Michael Wacha for example was drafted 19th overall. Yanks didn’t have a pick that high for years.

    Also…..the Cardinals are probably the best ran organization in the game….so yea if the yanks could just snap their fingers and be as good at player development as them the. Maybe it woukdnt matter as much

  169. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 10th, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    Anyway –

    Don’t know who I’m rooting for tonight. I really like Jim Leyland but not sure how I feel about Detroit otherwise (not ability-wise, just as a team.). Oakland is a feel-good story, but not sure they are for real, kind of like Pittsburgh. Are they really set up for the postseason? You can never discount postseason experience.

    And then the most important question of all – who has a better chance of smashing the Sux.

    If you go by the regular season, Oakland is a push (3-3), Detroit has the edge (4-3). Oh yeah, I forgot they are playing with a hobbling Cabrera. Hmmm. He accounted for 13% of their runs scored and 18% of their ribbies in the regular season.

    In other equally who cares/potentially irrelevant news – the Sux scored 3.8 runs per game against the Tigers while giving up 5.2 runs per game and scored 3.5 runs per game against Oakland while giving up 5.3.

    In the interest of full disclosure, I took out one of the outlier games from the Detroit season because it was counterintuitive that Detroit could have taken the season but the Sux scored more runs against them per game. So adding the last game in (20-4 score), Sux scored 6.1 runs per game against the Tigers, will giving up 5.

    ***********

    Have a great day y’all.

    :)

  170. blake October 10th, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    Shelby Miller also 19th overall….Yanks never had a chance to draft either of them .

  171. blake October 10th, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    It’s not impossible to have a good farm system drafting at the back of the first round every year……my only point was that it’s a lot harder to do

  172. MTU October 10th, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    Blake-

    No excuses this year.

    ;)

    Trisha-

    I’m pulling for the A’s.

    :)

    There’s a New one ——->

  173. charlestonchew October 10th, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    It’s beginning to seem to me, as much as I absolutely love Robbie, that the Yankees will not pay up to have him a Yankee for life. But that could be wrong. The Yanks have given out large, ill-advised contracts before (CC, Arod, Tex) and it’s impossible to rule out the same for Cano.

    But if the Yankees want to field a world-series caliber team next year, they need to spend smart. And Robinson Cano, no matter the price, will not be a smart spending option. It sucks to say. I hate to think it, but it is true. Even at 200 million, it’s a bad idea. 180, 170.

    Given that Teixeira will be back next season–and ARod likely healthy for portions of it, depending on his suspension–the team will already receive a boost. Alfonso Soriano, while not an incredible LF option still represents an above-average and reliable piece as far as production goes. There are holes at catcher, 3 in the rotation, one in the OF, and the need for a solid backup (perhaps half-time) infielder.

    If the Yankees take the 20-25 million per year they’d have to owe cano, they could sign a guy like Omar Infante, Curtis Granderson, AND a decent rotation option, easily making up for that production and more. Or instead say Brian McCann (who i am wary of) and a pitcher, however your prefer to look at it. What the Yankees could use is a Red Sox-style makeover. While it’s unlikely they’ll have widespread success with every single signing, there are several excellent opportunities in the free agent class that could cost significantly less and position them better for the next four years. I would hate to see Cano leave, as he is one of my favorite all-time Yankees, but it seems increasingly necessary to let him go (if he demands too much) for the good of the team.

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