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Joe Girardi’s birthday wishlist

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 14, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Joe Girardi

Joe Girardi turned 49 years old today. He already got that four-year contract he wanted. Here are a few more things he might have on his wishlist.

1. A healthy and productive Derek Jeter
For two reasons: It would help the Yankees solve an obvious problem in the infield, and it would help Girardi a potentially awkward headache in the clubhouse. Benching Jorge Posada was one thing. Can you imagine being the manager who has to do the same to Derek Jeter?

2. A new contract for Robinson Cano
Doesn’t matter to Girardi how much it costs. What makes his job easiest is putting a no-doubt No. 3 hitter in the lineup, and Cano fills that need better and easier than anyone else who’s readily available. There are other directions the front office could go, but I have to imagine the manager wants his superstar.

3. A strong first two months for Dave Robertson
Or, really, for whoever takes over the ninth inning. A strong start would ease some of the pressure on the pitcher, and ease the pressure on Girardi whenever the new closer inevitably has a bad stretch during the season. The sooner the better for a closer to establish himself.

4. A .280 batting average for Austin Romine
Or, really, for whoever steps in behind the plate. Obviously Girardi wants a catcher who can handle the job defensively, and that preference will come under far less scrutiny if the catcher in question hits at least a little bit. Batting average might be a bad way to judge a hitter, but it might be enough to justify a defense-first catcher.

5. A return-to-form by CC Sabathia
Hard to imagine anyone else starting on Opening Day, and Sabathia’s contract runs the length of Girardi’s new deal. One way or another, Girardi is going to have to lean on his familiar ace. It would be nice if that ace actually pitched like an ace.

Finally, here’s one that just might — might! — be on Girardi’s wishlist and no one else’s…

6. An appeal win for Alex Rodriguez
Here’s why: Girardi and Rodriguez actually seem to have a solid relationship, and Girardi handled all the off-the-field stuff pretty well this season (he was basically kept out of the A-Rod vs. the front office stuff). If Brian Cashman is right and Rodriguez is the best available third baseman — which might be actually be true — then Girardi might genuinely want Rodriguez back next season. It’s not his money, and frankly, keeping Rodriguez’s salary on the books might essentially force the Steinbrenners to ditch that $189 million plan.

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77 Responses to “Joe Girardi’s birthday wishlist”

  1. mick October 14th, 2013 at 9:06 pm

    Does last night’s comeback wins by the sox and pats qualify them as #1 sports town ?
    Certainly YS could use some of that energy…

  2. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 9:08 pm

    Mick-

    Sure could.

    Pretty dead season for NY sports.

  3. Triple Short of a Cycle October 14th, 2013 at 9:11 pm

    So basically stay the course and hope for the best?

  4. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    What is going on w all these miscommunications ?

    Jay better wake up.

    ;)

  5. chicken_stanley October 14th, 2013 at 9:15 pm

    The Ellis “double” could be a turning point

  6. randy l. October 14th, 2013 at 9:18 pm

    ” It’s not his money, and frankly, keeping Rodriguez’s salary on the books might essentially force the Steinbrenners to ditch that $189 million plan.”

    if alex can be a tipping point and get that plan ditched , i’m all for it.

    i also think if he’s healthy he can play.

  7. chicken_stanley October 14th, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    Pat M.: good call on A-Gon

  8. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    A-Rod will not get less than Braun.

    No way IMO.

    That’s the floor.

    I’m betting he gets around 100 games.

  9. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 9:23 pm

    The Wildhorse.

    Man I would love to have him.

    Mancrush alert.

    :)

  10. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 9:25 pm

    Just ask yourself how many 245 lb. Men make a triple out of that.

    WoW.

    :)

  11. mick October 14th, 2013 at 9:25 pm

    Arod is done.

  12. mick October 14th, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    LA looking to make it a series.
    Still say Cards in 6.

  13. yankeefeminista October 14th, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    Love the way Puig hotdogged it and then made up for it with his speed.

    As for Alex, I expected him to come back strong, probably much stronger than the Yankees expected he would…

    Randy, I still like the coconut Bliss bars the best. They are pure and perfect. I also love the texture.

  14. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 9:32 pm

    Ryu getting ready to spit the bit ?

  15. chicken_stanley October 14th, 2013 at 9:34 pm

    awful, awful baserunning

  16. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 9:34 pm

    Dumb move by Descalso.

    Sloppy play by the Cards tonight.

    Not typical.

  17. J. Alfred Prufrock October 14th, 2013 at 9:35 pm

    6. An appeal win for Alex Rodriguez

    Here’s why: Girardi and Rodriguez actually seem to have a solid relationship, and Girardi handled all the off-the-field stuff pretty well this season (he was basically kept out of the A-Rod vs. the front office stuff). If Brian Cashman is right and Rodriguez is the best available third baseman — which might be actually be true — then Girardi might genuinely want Rodriguez back next season. It’s not his money, and frankly, keeping Rodriguez’s salary on the books might essentially force the Steinbrenners to ditch that $189 million plan.
    ///

    There’s no limit to the praise Girardi deserves for his graceful and compassionate handling of the Alex “situation,” and the way he backed his player (unlike Torre did, with the “Mine” incident). That supportive side of Girardi is what’s best about him, IMO.

    It also points up to the reality that Alex is no pariah in the clubhouse, something some people try to sell here, which flies in the face of facts, like Posada having been outspoken about his friendship with Alex in years past, Cano and Alex’s closeness, CC’s obvious affection and support of Alex, Nunez’s effervescent praise of Alex, etc, and Jeter’s supportive comments while the two were rehabbing in Tampa.

    Of course, sentiment aside, if Alex is going to give us what he did before his calf and hamstring wonked out, why wouldn’t you want him playing??

    Chad, your final point is an interesting one. The way Hal’s seemingly hellbent on 189, you’d assume that there’s some absurd Alex money/Cano, Alex/no Cano scenario; but what you say may be true, that Alex getting a light sentence would force Hal to blow it up.

    Alex to the rescue, once more! :)

  18. randy l. October 14th, 2013 at 9:36 pm

    “Randy, I still like the coconut Bliss bars the best. They are pure and perfect.”

    yankeefeminista-

    i like the coconut bars better too. the problem was i ate all the stores supply this week and had to move on to the chocolate :)

  19. J. Alfred Prufrock October 14th, 2013 at 9:37 pm

    Randy, I still like the coconut Bliss bars the best. They are pure and perfect. I also love the texture.
    //

    They are too good. Coconut Secret candy bars and Bliss frozen pops are both ridiculous.

  20. randy l. October 14th, 2013 at 9:38 pm

    “Alex to the rescue, once more!”

    ironic isn’t it? :)

  21. J. Alfred Prufrock October 14th, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    ironic isn’t it? :)

    and hilarious.

  22. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    Sounds like I’d better try one of these Coconut Bliss bars.

    They seem to have quite a rep around here.

    ;)

  23. J. Alfred Prufrock October 14th, 2013 at 9:40 pm

    You guys, if you haven’t tried, go get that Artisana coconut butter. Stuff is crazy good.

  24. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 9:40 pm

    Jay should have had that.

    Tough play but he was there.

    He is not doing very well out there tonight.

  25. Shame Spencer October 14th, 2013 at 9:42 pm

    I didn’t win ALL the awards… Doc Iac won for best muscles. :)

    We do need to do superlatives again this off season. Suggestions?

  26. Shame Spencer October 14th, 2013 at 9:45 pm

    blake wins the Most Gentlemanly Poster award for the second year in a row.

    MTU wins the Most Beauteous Photographer award.

    Duh Innings wins the Most Characters Used Per Post award.

  27. randy l. October 14th, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    ‘and hilarious.”

    that too :)

  28. Doreen October 14th, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    Yankeefeminista, thanks for the heads up for finding the bars at Whole Foods.

    Puig is ohmygod fast, but that posing (both at the plate and once he reached third) is going to get him HBP going forward, no?

    I keep,thinking about all the controversy there was about Joba’s “enthusiasm” on the mound when he first came up, and i could only imagine what Puig would inspire here. On the one hand, you have a very exciting and talented player, on the other hand you a e a team whose persona is “act like you’ve been there before.”. Ultimately, I know it’s production that has the final say. Still, it woud be a distraction.

    That all said, a peppery player might be just what he doctor ordered for the Yankees.

  29. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    Doreen-

    I wouldn’t be so quick to hit Puig. Besides the ball would just bounce off like it was nothing.

    Guy is built like a tank.

    If he decided to charge the mound it likely would be one hell of a tackle.

    I wouldn’t want to be on the other end of it.

    ;)

  30. pat October 14th, 2013 at 9:54 pm

    No worries on thinking me a “he” and for future reference, the embarrassed emoticon is the word oops between 2 colons.

  31. Doreen October 14th, 2013 at 9:56 pm

    MTU,

    they could hit someone else…

  32. chicken_stanley October 14th, 2013 at 9:57 pm

    We do need to do superlatives again this off season. Suggestions?

    —————-

    If you read previous posts, Tar and sammiejohnson are fighting for the “best/worst use of puns” award. I say that we make them co-winners and maybe, just maybe they will stop :) . The “foot in mouth award”, however, is mine all mine

  33. chicken_stanley October 14th, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    OK Pat, here goes – :oops:

  34. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 9:59 pm

    Doreen-

    He’s 22 yrs. old. Still learning the customs of playing ball here.

    I think there should be room for the expression of emotion in baseball as long as the player is not trying to show anyone up.

    I didn’t think Puig was trying to do that. He was just excited.

    The Wildhorse being the Stallion that he is.

    JMO.

  35. jacksquat October 14th, 2013 at 10:00 pm

    4. A .280 batting average for Austin Romine

    LOL

    This, for any catcher, is probably one of the furthest things from his mind.

    Girardi dreams of framing, blocked pitches in the dirt, strong throws to 2b, and “ball player”-ness.

  36. Shame Spencer October 14th, 2013 at 10:00 pm

    chicken – You need to capitalize ‘Foot In Mouth’ to make it an official award. That’s basically the most official we can be on here. ;)

  37. Shame Spencer October 14th, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    fem wins the Best Lohud Scout award.

    JF wins the Best Robot award.

    pat wins the Best Twitter Updates award.

  38. chicken_stanley October 14th, 2013 at 10:05 pm

    Shame – lol. bear with me, I’m learning.

  39. Shame Spencer October 14th, 2013 at 10:05 pm

    Perhaps I should be listing award names and actually allowing people to vote lol.. usually how superlatives work.

  40. pat October 14th, 2013 at 10:07 pm

    hiltzikm
    Baseball’s steroids hysteria: In defense of A-Rod http://www.latimes.com/busines.....2397.story

  41. Shame Spencer October 14th, 2013 at 10:07 pm

    We really should make this more official… like The Dundies.

  42. Shame Spencer October 14th, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    pat proves a point.

    :D

  43. Pat M. October 14th, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    Doreen, when the Dodgers and The D-Backs ( Ian Kennedy and Zack Grenke target practice night ) had their dust up no body wanted any part of Puig and Big Mac. It was Mattingly who had to be restained as well. That was the night the Dodger season turned around.

  44. chicken_stanley October 14th, 2013 at 10:10 pm

    Shame – I’ve had a poster (who shall remain nameless) tell me on numerous occasions that I make him (or her for all I know) want to puke… Is “Most Likely To Puke” (notice the capitalization :) ) a realistic award?

  45. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 10:11 pm

    Time for some rest.

    Tomorrow’s adventure into the land of Demons and Goblins will be a long day.

    See you all around.

    :)

  46. chicken_stanley October 14th, 2013 at 10:14 pm

    For “Most Likely to Mention Rush in a Post” – I nominate jmills

  47. Shame Spencer October 14th, 2013 at 10:17 pm

    chicken – The parameters for the Lohud Superlatives are rather flexible. :D

    Congrats to jmills and Canada for earning the honors.

  48. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 10:17 pm

    Wildhorse strikes again !

    :)

  49. Doreen October 14th, 2013 at 10:21 pm

    Pat M

    And here he is at bat again. :)

    I’m just wondering how he would fit in with the current Yankees team personality.

    I am certainly not questioning his talent or genuine-ness. I didn’t have a problem with Joba’s enthusiasm way back when. But do you thnk the powers that be let Puig’s celebratory tendencies be a turn-off?

    What did they just show with he framed jerseys? I didn’t see those when we went a couple of years ago.

  50. Doreen October 14th, 2013 at 10:32 pm

    I had no idea Wilson was a Dodger.

  51. Pat M. October 14th, 2013 at 10:34 pm

    Doreen… The new ownership spent about 200 million last winter in upgrades ( that McCourt never got around to doing ) which has restored the beauty and luster to the 51 year Ballpark. They implemented real nice touches to accent the rich Dodger history with a nod to the way The LA Lakers do to showcase their rich past. It’s still an amazing Stadium that seats over 56,000 people. Puig has mellowed and matured a lot since being thrusted into the Hollywood lights. A-Gon and Uribie have taught him and Mattingly has sat him when needed

  52. Doreen October 14th, 2013 at 10:52 pm

    I am glad they did that for the stadium Pat. It was a disappointment when we went that the place didn’t free nearly as much in the way of nostalgia as AT&T park did. And ut was in need of a pint job and sime brightenng up The setting is peerless, though. Can’t improve on mother nature!

    I guess if Puig was here, he would have gotten that knd of tutoring.

    When I continue to think about it, this has all got to be the biggest thrill as comare to where he was not too long ago.

    And truth. E told, I want the Yankees to have that type player

  53. Pat M. October 14th, 2013 at 11:15 pm

    Doreen….When The Yanks were in Chavez Ravine last June Puig wanted to meet Derek and Mariano but was so shy and overwhelmed that Hanley and Crawford made the intro after the four All-Stars chewed the fat for about 5 minutes with Puig hanging out about 5 feet away. Kind of funny in a way….

  54. yankinvegas October 14th, 2013 at 11:37 pm

    That article in the LA Times was not by some stupid, boozed up baseball writer who nose is up the butt of MLB. That would be you, Bill Madden. Or by sensationalists like Harper and Lupica.
    It was written by a sensible journalist who sees the situation for what it is – a joke. Alex should get no more than 50 games and probably zero. If it forces Hal to live up to his word that a championship caliber team trumps all else, so much the better

  55. randy l. October 14th, 2013 at 11:41 pm

    doreen and pat m

    if puig were a yankee ,things would be really looking different.

    there’s others out there right as we speak.

    the yanks need to get on it :)

  56. Pat M. October 15th, 2013 at 12:31 am

    Good Night all and good morning to Doreen and the breakfast club……..Chavez Ravine tomorrow night

  57. austinmac October 15th, 2013 at 6:19 am

    The Daily News reports the Yankees and Beltran have mutual interest. I suspect the interest will dissolve when the Cards make him a QO.

  58. tomingeorgia October 15th, 2013 at 6:25 am

    Morning, austin,
    If I were the Cards, I sure would make that QO. I’d love to see Beltran in our outfield, though.

  59. austinmac October 15th, 2013 at 6:38 am

    Tom,

    I have always liked Beltran. It will be interesting. They have to add offense, and I agree OF is one place they can get it. Cashman was right that there will be little to choose from for the left side of the infield. As many others have said, someone like Ryan can be okay if offense is added elsewhere.

    The team can’t be inactive this year, as last. That will make it more fun for us in the long, long offseason.

  60. 86w183 October 15th, 2013 at 7:41 am

    Good morning all —–

    Not sure I agree with all of that birthday wish list. More old guys who are a year older in 2014??

    There’s no way Alex Rodriguez will perform to the level of a $ 25 M a year player, so the longer the suspension the better in terms of maximizing the effectiveness of the payroll. Personally, I’m hoping for a 648 game suspension.

  61. austinmac October 15th, 2013 at 7:44 am

    86,

    I’m with you on the suspension wish. I wonder if Cashman’s statement is to impliedly dispute they have a suspension agenda.

  62. tomingeorgia October 15th, 2013 at 7:58 am

    I’m delighted there’s a (semi-) day game today. It may be the one game from here on out that I’ll get to watch all the way through. Those 8:30 games run far past my bedtime.

  63. blake October 15th, 2013 at 8:00 am

    austinmac says:
    October 15, 2013 at 6:19 am
    The Daily News reports the Yankees and Beltran have mutual interest. I suspect the interest will dissolve when the Cards make him a QO.

    Agreed…..unless the Yankees have already lost the pick signing somebody else first.

    As I said yesterday though this pick could actually end up being 15th or 16th……and you can sometimes get a fast moving star in that range so they should be careful about losing it

  64. 86w183 October 15th, 2013 at 8:08 am

    Beltran always has an interest in the Yankees yet always ends up signing somewhere else. I doubt this off-season will be any different.

    Post-season DH days are the best. Get home the final few innings… good stuff.

  65. blake October 15th, 2013 at 8:17 am

    Beltrans OBP was .339 this year which is the lowest if his career and it’s dropped each of the last 3 seasons. He’s still really solid and way better than Ichiro but if I had to lose that pick to sign him I think Id probably prefer to try and get Granderson back for a year……now if they have already lost the pick signing McCann then ok…..

  66. yanks61 October 15th, 2013 at 8:36 am

    86 and Mac, I’m with both of you – the longer the suspension, the better, IMHO.

    It seems to me that the $189 plan was in effect before A-Roid was suspended. So it also seems to me that Hal is not going to be deterred in implanting it. Therefore, his coming back sooner can only make things worse for the Yanks in terms of getting more viable players over here.

    I also think that he’s a walking time bomb, injurywise. If he does come back after half a season out, how long is it before he goes down again – and with who to take his place? If he’s out for the season the Yanks can try to move on and bring in a decent replacement. And, by the way, I could be wrong but I don’t see him getting less than 100 games or so.

    All things considered, I hope to never see him again in Pinstripes. He was once a great talent (though a cheat and a liar) and if he is out there at some point in the future, I’ll be looking at the laundry and not at the person, rooting for him or any player, regardless of my personal feelings, to do well for the Yankees. But I think in terms of money, remaining talent and just plan hassle, we’d be far better off without him.

  67. Doreen October 15th, 2013 at 8:40 am

    I wish George had agreed to sign Beltran way back when; I wish his knees weren’t an issue the last time around (I am really amazed at how healthy he’s been); I’m not sure the third time is the charm – too little too late?

    You’d think he couldn’t be worse than what is already on board and you’d hope he’d be better. But he’s spent his time in the National League. I think it’s a consideration as far as learning a new league and its pitchers might go. Maybe not, but at least worth a thought.

    And he’s certainly on the downside now, and how would signing him be much different from signing other nearing over-the-hill status players? You just KNOW that the minute the Yankees signed him, the knees would start barking! LOL

    I also thought that one of the reasons that the last time he was available he didn’t end up with the Yankees is he did not want to be a DH. I guess that he’d consider it now, to prolong his career, and perhaps that could alleviate some concerns about his knee issues returning.

  68. Doreen October 15th, 2013 at 8:44 am

    I will be surprised if ARod ends up with more of a suspension that Braun got. But we don’t know all the evidence, so perhaps 100 games. But no way will it be 211. Not even 162 plus playoffs.

    It is kind of interesting that Peralta and Cruz came back to play for their teams in the playoffs.

    It is interesting that the SF Giants didn’t want Melky Cabrera back last year, even though he could have played.

    Strange punishment. Missing 50 game isn’t wonderful, but you still get to be part of any post-season play…

  69. blake October 15th, 2013 at 8:55 am

    “I wish George had agreed to sign Beltran way back when; I wish his knees weren’t an issue the last time around (I am really amazed at how healthy he’s been); I’m not sure the third time is the charm – too little too late?”

    Beltran being injury prone was always way overstated……he’s really only been hurt once and has been extremely durable the rest of his career.

    Choosing Johnson over Beltran was a major bungle….. It costs us titles IMO

  70. Doreen October 15th, 2013 at 9:03 am

    blake,

    I don’t know that his knee issues were overstated. It did come into play during his tenure with the Mets. And usually those things don’t get better with age.

    But I think if the Yankees were in risk taking mode, it might have been different. They’ve been very “careful” about spending long-ish term money on guys with health issues (that they weren’t already stuck with). Or possibly, it came down to Beltran really preferring the opportunity to play the outfield with the Cardinals more than he might have had the opportunity to do with the Yankees.

  71. Doreen October 15th, 2013 at 9:05 am

    From 2011:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-yo.....by-beltran

    Sigh. Since they let Swisher go anyway….

  72. Doreen October 15th, 2013 at 9:07 am

    And blake -

    Read the comments. Many many many wanted to keep Swisher….it could be argued that had they gone for Beltran, two more WS appearances at least.

  73. 86w183 October 15th, 2013 at 9:08 am

    RJ over Beltran also cost Dioner Navarro and Javier Vasquez, two pretty nice assets at the time. Beltran, with draft pick compensation is not a good idea at his age, despite the obvious upgrade at RF.

    Still think they will make QO to Cano, Kuroda and Grandreson.

  74. yanks61 October 15th, 2013 at 9:08 am

    Doreen, I think that MLB is hypocritical as regards the way they handled the PEDS business going to way back when. I personally can’t abide Selig and many of his décisions over the years. And I can bet he would very much like to make an example of AR. But I can’t believe that MLB is just plain stupid. Now maybe they are and I’m just being naive. However, I have to think that they have to have more on AR than what they had on Braun this second time around. Presumably considerably more. They had to realize that AR was loaded and could/would take this to an arbiter. In fact, he really didn’t have any choice, because getting all 211 games is the end of his career, for all intents and purposes.

    So I have to think that they believe they have pretty solid evidence of further wrong doing if they took such a radical step. Maybe the arbiter won’t agree that it’s solid enough to merit that full punishnment, but MLB had to believe it was. Maybe MLB, figuring that AR would take exactly the steps he has, gave him the 211 in the belief that an arbitor would possibly knock it down. But by starting with a higher number, it would get knocked to a number closer to what they really wanted.

    Of course all of this is pure speculation. We shall just have to wait and see.

  75. blake October 15th, 2013 at 9:10 am

    “I don’t know that his knee issues were overstated. It did come into play during his tenure with the Mets. And usually those things don’t get better with age.”

    I agree there was some risk but folks acted like Beltran had always been injury prone and that wasn’t the case…..he had the micro fracture issue with the mets but once he was past that he went back to being durable like he always had been…….

    I wanted to have Beltran and Swisher in 2012

  76. blake October 15th, 2013 at 9:17 am

    I would make Granderson the QO…..he might take it but that wouldn’t be horrible for 1 year if he could get back to hitting 30 homers …..

  77. Duh Innings II October 15th, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    Jeter and Rodriguez are finished as fielding players.

    Jeter needs to be the DH and Rodriguez needs to go away.

    ‘Say Rodriguez hits a postseason series walkoff homerun a la Aaron Boone next year. It will FOREVER have an asterisk next to it which is “Hit with the benefit of PEDs.” One could simply argue that if not for PEDs Rodriguez isn’t playing in 2014 thus in position to hit that homerun and who could refute that argument?

    Cashman is saying Rodriguez is the best option at thirdbase next year so teams think he has leverage when he doesn’t. He needs a thirdbaseman next year and Rodriguez isn’t it. Rodriguez would be lucky to make it through May if he played third every day.

    If the Yanks don’t want to give Adams or Nunez a shot, bring back Youkilis, sign Uribe or Young, or trade for Freese, how ’bout trading for Aramis Ramirez?

    ‘Say A-Rod is suspended for all of 2014. That’s $25M off the books. The Yanks could use $20M of that to take on Ramirez’s 2014 $16M salary and $4M buyout and still have $5M to play with, or they could use all of that towards Ramirez’s $30M for 2014-15 if he had such a good 2014 the Yanks wanted him back and he was happy to take another $14M for 2015. He’d need his rest from 3B, but he could still play. If Jeter GASP! buys a thirdbase glove and learns third he and Nix could spell Ramirez at 3B.


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