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Who are you expecting at third base next season?

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 14, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Jayson Nix

Quick, which Yankees player made the most starts at third base this season?

. . .

Would you believe it was Jayson Nix? Ten guys made at least five starts at third, and the leader of that group was a utility infielder who was taken off the 40-man roster last offseason, finished the season the disabled list and started fewer than 35 games at the position. Here’s the complete list of Yankees starting third basemen:

Nix (32 games), David Adams (29), Alex Rodriguez (27), Kevin Youkilis (20), Eduardo Nunez (14), Luis Cruz (11), Chris Nelson (9), Brent Lillibridge (8), Mark Reynolds (7), Alberto Gonzalez (5).

Now, with Alex Rodriguez’s status uncertain — and with most of that list heading for free agency — who’s your guess for the most starts at third base next season? A few possibilities…

Derek JeterAlex Rodriguez
Maybe you’re betting the suspension won’t hold, or won’t be significant enough to keep him from making a significant number of starts at third.

Eduardo Nunez
Played a lot of third base at the end of the season, could be considered the incumbent if Rodriguez isn’t active on Opening Day.

Derek Jeter
If the Yankees decide his legs aren’t quite up to a full season at shortstop, could Jeter shift to third base for the final year of his current contract?

David Adams
Came into this season as the system’s most advanced third base prospect, but he struggled in his first taste of the big leagues. Better the second time?

Ronnier Mustelier
A fan favorite even without a single big league at-bat. He should be back next year, and the bat still has potential. Would the Yankees trust him enough?

Jayson Nix
Hard to imagine the Yankees will plan to have Nix be their most common third baseman, but then again, that wasn’t the plan his year either.

Mark Reynolds
Kind of an all-or-nothing player, but he showed his home run potential during his brief Yankees tenure. Was that enough to bring him back?

David Freese
Hard to speculate on the trade market right now, but the Cardinals could move Freese to open an infield spot for prospect Kolten Wong.

Michael Young
The free agent class is pretty thin at third base. Young will be available, so will Juan Uribe (and Kevin Youkilis), but there’s no standout option.

Tyler Austin
If you’re looking for a real wild card, how about a prospect resurgence and second-half call-up for a guy who could start playing more third base next year?

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170 Responses to “Who are you expecting at third base next season?”

  1. Hassey October 14th, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    I think all 10 of these guys will start at least one game at third

  2. 86w183 October 14th, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    My guess is that Nunez and/or Reynolds will see the bulk of playing time there.

    My hope is Headley or Moustakas or Peralta will.

  3. joeman October 14th, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    hope not Youkilis show again…don’t like Reynolds…hope it’s Peralta

  4. blake October 14th, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    I hope it’s Derek Jeter and they have gotten a SS by then.

  5. blake October 14th, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    “Well blake, Cano showed that he indeed, can make adjustments..what was his OBP? .383 or something?”

    yea…..but was that a function of teams just totally pitching around him because nobody was behind him? Can he maintain that as he ages?

  6. pkyankfan69 October 14th, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    My hope would be Jeter because that means we got legit SS. Jeter might prove that his body can’t handle SS next year but until that happens I doubt they would just hand the job to a Ryan or a Nunez.

    In reality I think Nunez at least starts the year as the 3B… Yuck

  7. 86w183 October 14th, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    I don’t think there’s any chance of Youkilis donning pinstripes unless he feels really guilty about stealing $ 12 M and agrees to play for league minimum.

    Some have suggested Uribe, who is a free agent, but beware of a 34 year old who just posted a career best OPS +.

  8. blake October 14th, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    Moving Jeter to 3B is something they really need to consider…….he’s going to have to play somewhere and he’s more likely to stay healthy at 3B than he is SS. Also getting a SS would improve the defense of the club……

    I’d be calling Colorado and Texas like crazy trying to get one of them to trade me a SS……

    Jagielo might be ready by 2015 and if he’s not Headley is a FA after 2014…….Jeter would be a good stop gap at 3B and it could prolong his career.

  9. kschappert October 14th, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    Jeter probably though he’s not providing any power. Gonna be a tough spot for Yanks–no way Arod plays significant time and Reynolds isn’t very good. Nunez is fine…as a backup.

  10. blake October 14th, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    Nunez shouldn’t start for the Yankees…..he’s not good enough

  11. Warning Track Power October 14th, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    I want to applaud Cashman for the comments he made over the weekend regarding
    ARod. I have to admit I am still shocked that Cashman went out of his way to praise ARod.
    Good for you Cash!

  12. Bret The Hitman October 14th, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    My guess:

    Headley
    Prado
    Freese

  13. blake October 14th, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    “I want to applaud Cashman for the comments he made over the weekend regarding
    ARod. I have to admit I am still shocked that Cashman went out of his way to praise ARod.
    Good for you Cash”

    If you’re talking about the interview he did with Oconner I wouldn’t call it that…..I heard the interview live and his tone wasn’t praise ….it was more like well we wished we had the player we signed because he’s good and now we are screwed

  14. joeman October 14th, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    blake October 14th, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    I’d be calling Colorado and Texas like crazy trying to get one of them to trade me a SS……
    ———————————————————-
    they have nothing to trade to get one of those two…nothing at all

  15. sammiejohnson October 14th, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    Stewie is being interviewed on MLB radio right now. Even SOUNDS like a .210 hitter on the radio.

  16. blake October 14th, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    they have nothing to trade to get one of those two…nothing at all”

    Both guys have big contracts ….. If you’re taking Andrus’s contract then they couldn’t ask a ton in prospects too

  17. Bret The Hitman October 14th, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    They have to many holes for a huge contract. They need to spread the wealth.

  18. Warning Track Power October 14th, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    blake October 14th, 2013 at 1:06 pm
    “I want to applaud Cashman for the comments he made over the weekend regarding
    ARod. I have to admit I am still shocked that Cashman went out of his way to praise ARod.
    Good for you Cash”

    If you’re talking about the interview he did with Oconner I wouldn’t call it that…..I heard the interview live and his tone wasn’t praise ….it was more like well we wished we had the player we signed because he’s good and now we are screwed
    ——————————————————————————–
    I’ll stick with my opinion on the comments and choose against being swayed by you.

  19. J. Alfred Prufrock October 14th, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    blake October 14th, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    “Well blake, Cano showed that he indeed, can make adjustments..what was his OBP? .383 or something?”

    yea…..but was that a function of teams just totally pitching around him because nobody was behind him? Can he maintain that as he ages?
    ///

    Well, he decidedly stopped lunging for crap outside of the zone at a certain point and was much more discerning, so I don’t think it’s accurate to attribute all of it to just taking an unofficial IBB.

    I think he’s a much smarter ballplayer than given credit for here in general (not necessarily meaning your posts, just a kind of general notion here that it’s all “natural talent” and no in-game smarts, which I disavow, especially when it comes to fielding decisions. The “Ted Williams” bunt, too, probably gave certain people here, and their prejudices regarding Cano’s “intelligence”, a veritable shock).

    Can he keep it up? Cano showed me that he understands adjustments are needed, and the “issues” vs. LHP were down to one outlier season, so I don’t see why he can’t become more savvy as he ages.

  20. blake October 14th, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    “I’ll stick with my opinion on the comments and choose against being swayed by you.”

    That’s fine but did you hear the interview or read the transcript?

  21. J. Alfred Prufrock October 14th, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    A guy I would want want – whom we’ll never be able to trade for, so I don’t know why I even mention it – is that stud 3B Philly prospect, Makiel Franco.

    Dude has unreal batspeed and scorches the ball. Not a great 3B but athletic enough to hold the position down.

    The guy is going to be a star. Wish we could get him from the Philthers.

  22. yankinvegas October 14th, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    I believe that Alex suspension will be cut to somewhere between 65 and 125 games. In the interim, I would want Jeter to play 3d. But given that his ego is way too large to move off of SS, I hope that we trade for Headley.
    This offseason will be very interesting and exciting. There is no reason we can’t win in 2014. Nobody thought Boston would be any good this season.
    If Ortiz had been drilled, it would have only been 1 run and Napoli doesn’t hit against anyone except us.
    Hopefully Leyland has learned his lesson. But then again, Torre never did and Girardi hasn’t so far.

  23. blake October 14th, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    JAP,

    Look I’ve said that I think Cano is on a 1st ballot HOF pace…..and if the Yankees were operating like the Yankees then signing him would be a no brainer……but because they aren’t that gives me concern when we are talking about 200 million or more bucks for a 31 year old.

    I Hal will assume the risk then sure….sign him

  24. mick October 14th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    Hunter on his collision with the OF wall: “This is postseason. I’ll die on the field for this. You’re not going to take me off that field.”
    ===========================
    Why didn’t we go after a guy like this?

  25. J. Alfred Prufrock October 14th, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    Jagielo might be ready by 2015 and if he’s not Headley is a FA after 2014…….Jeter would be a good stop gap at 3B and it could prolong his career.
    ///

    Haven’t seen Jags yet. Hope to this season, if he’s still at SI. Haven’t seen Andujar, either, outside of that video, but Andujar may well be the best 3B prospect we have.

  26. blake October 14th, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    mick says:
    October 14, 2013 at 1:19 pm
    Hunter on his collision with the OF wall: “This is postseason. I’ll die on the field for this. You’re not going to take me off that field.”
    ===========================
    Why didn’t we go after a guy like this?”

    Because he would have gone on the 2014 books and he didn’t bring in Japanese money

  27. yankinvegas October 14th, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    I have a question – How soon after ARod’s hearing will they start Ortiz’ hearing?

  28. blake October 14th, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    “Haven’t seen Jags yet. Hope to this season, if he’s still at SI. Haven’t seen Andujar, either, outside of that video, but Andujar may well be the best 3B prospect we have.”

    Seems like they have more hope at 3B than SS and it’s an easier position to find …..

  29. blake October 14th, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    yankinvegas says:
    October 14, 2013 at 1:22 pm
    I have a question – How soon after ARod’s hearing will they start Ortiz’ hearing?

    Never

  30. mick October 14th, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    Ortiz is beloved in Boston. Arod hated in NY.
    Wonder why…

  31. J. Alfred Prufrock October 14th, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    blake, yeah I know you are qualifying your position on him reasonably. Never meant to imply that I didn’t get where you’re coming from.

    I just think, for all that, you still sort of under rate him, if you think Choo/McCann cancels out Cano, and even bests Cano.

    I like both guys, of course, and would be happy to sign both (assuming they didn’t give McCann a deal long-term enough that Sanchez becomes “expendable” in their eyes…that’s a huge danger, IMO, and I’m nearly as excited about his bat as I was about Montero’s; not quite that level, but close).

    Any how, I get your point. Obviously, LHB who can both hit and can golf shots into the RF seats makes great sense; but my qualifier is, not at the expense of re-signing Cano.

  32. pkyankfan69 October 14th, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    This team below would leave the Yanks about $150M about $20M under $170 M

    C – Cervelli ($1M)
    1B – Tex ($22.5M)
    2B – Cano ($25M)
    SS – Jeter ($15M)
    3B – Nuney ($0.5M)
    LF – Soriano ($5M)
    CF – Gardy ($5M)
    RF – Ichiro ($6.5M)
    DH – Morse ($5M)

    Bench – Wells ($0M) – Almonte ($0.5M) – Romine ($0.5M) – Ryan ($3M) – Reynolds ($3M)

    Rotation: CC ($24.5M) – Nova ($2M) – Tanaka ($10M) – Pineda ($0.5M) – Phelps ($0.5M)
    BP: Drob ($5M) – Kelley ($2M) – Claiborne ($0.5M) – Betances ($0.5M) – Warren ($0.5M) – Cabral ($0.5M)

    + Approx $10 M for Arod

  33. mick October 14th, 2013 at 1:28 pm

    We are not going to sign Cano at any cost.
    Some might advocate this but if he prices himself out, it’s on him.

  34. mick October 14th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    PKY-Looks like a piece of cake :)

  35. J. Alfred Prufrock October 14th, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    blake October 14th, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    “Haven’t seen Jags yet. Hope to this season, if he’s still at SI. Haven’t seen Andujar, either, outside of that video, but Andujar may well be the best 3B prospect we have.”

    Seems like they have more hope at 3B than SS and it’s an easier position to find …..
    ///

    Even Feliz started as a SS. He has the arm and the range and the quickness, so goes to show that, even with the requisite “physical” tools, it’s so hard to stick at SS. I think maybe Feliz, who runs like a deer and sort of glides to the ball, ala Cano, might have first step issues (he’s got Strawberry like legs), at least at SS. I don’t know, though, since I have never seen him there.

    Robi started at short, I believe, and so did Mariano Rivera, way back when (before we signed him, of course).

    This Abiatal Avelino is the current one everyone’s buzzing about: for his stick, his arm, his defense, his base stealing/base running… but lo, he is in SI.

    Cito, at least, is still playing the position and if he can continue to advance as a strictly RHB, he may just be the future default guy. He can really play there.

  36. luis October 14th, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    Good afternoon everyone,

    It´s been a while since my last post and I have a few things to say:

    1) Randy, I back you up on whatever you want me to do…You are spot on, this has to end..One thing is to disagree and have ardent debates about it…Another is to be the victim of an attack for speaking your mind… Everyone should take a stance on this matter

    Back to baseball:

    About Cano… I would say this, I think they should have extended him two years ago through his age 36-37 season… Since they didn´t, they should have traded him and Granderson during last winter to shorten up the rebuilding process and try to sign him back this off-season, especially since they seem serious about the 189 mil cap… We could have gotten some badly needed young talent to expand our pool and our options…But JAP has a point…Cashman is at the helm and I simply don´t trust his talent evaluation abilities… We probably get another pitcher we don´t need or could be had in the FA market

    Now about the need of re-signing him… We will only get a comp draft pick for him and it won´t cost us a draft pick… If we can get him to agree to a 7 year deal, I would go for it

  37. mick October 14th, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    We will only get a comp draft pick for him and it won´t cost us a draft pick…
    =====================================
    What is the ceiling?
    Whatever we want to give him won’t be enough.

  38. GregD October 14th, 2013 at 1:38 pm

    Blake— I saw your response on Choo….that he gets on base against Lefties…..so does Texeira but I hear so many say we should platoon him………..

  39. GregD October 14th, 2013 at 1:41 pm

    I don’t think we want Ichiro to start next year…….we need someone who drives in runs

  40. Barry October 14th, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    Third Base: David Freese.

  41. GregD October 14th, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    Who would we trade for Freese?

  42. blake October 14th, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    “Blake— I saw your response on Choo….that he gets on base against Lefties…..so does Texeira but I hear so many say we should platoon him………..”

    here is the difference though…..Choo had a 1.011 OPS against RHP this year…..and you face RHP about 2/3 of the time. Tex hasn’t had even an .800 OPS vs RHP since 2009. Basically Tex is Lyle Overay 2/3 of the time…….

    Ideally you’d platoon Choo as well…..but at least he’s good against the type pitchers you face most often and even against lefties he had a .347 OBP in 2013…..Tex’s OBP vs RHP was .331 in 2012

  43. GregD October 14th, 2013 at 1:45 pm

    What free agents do we think will be available and won’t get qualifying offers ? Beltran? Jimenez?

  44. J. Alfred Prufrock October 14th, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    Hey primo :D

    I’m running out, great to see you! Hope everything is good in your world. Looking forward to meeting up in December, my friend.

    Later folks

  45. GregD October 14th, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    Blake—–those are good points……..I don’t think though that we could platoon Choo if we give him a big contract…..maybe Long could help him against lefties…….

  46. yankinvegas October 14th, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    The thing that really gets me angry – OK, no positive test on Ortiz since 2003. But also no positive test on Alex since 2003.
    One guy destroys a dugout this summer in Baltimore and nothing happens to him. Looks out of shape his whole career, yet at age 38 is better than he was at 35.
    The other guy, a fantastic athlete and player has every part of his body breaking down and since winning an MVP at age 32, has frighteningly declined. And is fighting a ridiculous suspension based on what?
    The only explanation is that Ortiz plays for the Boston Red Sox, a team loved by MLB and all of the media, including the NY media. And that Rodriguez plays for the New York Yankees, a team seen as the source of all that’s wrong with the game by MLB. And loathed by the media, including the NY media.
    I will never be able to understand the logic behind all of this.

  47. blake October 14th, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    “What free agents do we think will be available and won’t get qualifying offers ? Beltran? Jimenez?”

    I’m guessing St. Louis makes Beltran the QO…..14 million for one year of him wouldn’t be bad at all……Ubaldo I dunno….that one is iffy.

  48. 86w183 October 14th, 2013 at 1:50 pm

    Keep hoping Ichiro retires to play one last year in Japan. That would help. Putting Choo or Beltran in RF would be a huge upgrade.

  49. blake October 14th, 2013 at 1:50 pm

    “Blake—–those are good points……..I don’t think though that we could platoon Choo if we give him a big contract…..maybe Long could help him against lefties…….”

    That’d be the hope……although I don’t expect Cashman to sign anybody that requires the loss of that draft pick to be honest. I think choo is really good but if I could get Granderson or Beltran a lot cheaper then I would do that……Choo is 31 himself and even on a 5 year deal he’d carry risk.

  50. GregD October 14th, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    Yankinvegas—- I want us to win the WS next year and Alex be the MVP… :)

  51. sammiejohnson October 14th, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    Cleveland has an $8M option on Ubaldo for 2014.

  52. blake October 14th, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    I think it’s possible that Ichiro retires……if he doesn’t then it won’t be about the money but about trying to go out on a better note. I do think he’s pretty much cooked though……I think his last gasp was the 2nd half of 2012.

  53. mick October 14th, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    The only explanation is that Ortiz plays for the Boston Red Sox, a team loved by MLB and all of the media, including the NY media. And that Rodriguez plays for the New York Yankees, a team seen as the source of all that’s wrong with the game by MLB. And loathed by the media, including the NY media.
    I will never be able to understand the logic behind all of this.
    ================
    C’mon.
    Did you see Ortiz interviews after the game last night?
    Do you think NY fans are plain dumb?
    Ortiz is an assassin and always comes thru in the clutch.
    Alex never did till 2009 and was booed for that very reason from Day 1 as a Yankee.
    Fans assume all players are using so steroids is not the answer.
    It’s about the player and his personality.

  54. pkyankfan69 October 14th, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    I think that Ubaldo team option got nixed when he was traded from the Rockies

  55. blake October 14th, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    “Cleveland has an $8M option on Ubaldo for 2014.”

    yea so they’ll pick that up most likely…..Salty will probably be out there…..Josh Johnson….Morse maybe….infante…..Drew….Peralta…..uribe…….Carlos Ruiz…..those are some guys that may not get QO’s….

  56. GregD October 14th, 2013 at 1:55 pm

    Ichiro would make a good backup OF……don’t think he’ll retire……I think he is committed to the contract and his culture/values would never let him quit

  57. blake October 14th, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    Yea cots has Ubaldo as FA so that may be the case….

  58. GregD October 14th, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    Ubaldo has the option now….it became a player option when he was traded

  59. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    AJ P. won’t get a QO either.

  60. GregD October 14th, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    I think Carlos Ruiz would be good on a one year contract

  61. blake October 14th, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    If Colorado would do Nova, Phelps, Heathcott, and Nunez for Tulo would you do it? Lets say we have already signed Tanaka and Kuroda has signed a 1 year deal.

  62. mick October 14th, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    blake- why not?

  63. mick October 14th, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    AJ P. won’t get a QO either.
    ========
    They could have had him last year and did not.

  64. sammiejohnson October 14th, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    pkyankfan69 October 14th, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    I think that Ubaldo team option got nixed when he was traded from the Rockies

    ___________________________________________

    True. I didn’t look close enough. He can void the 2014 option. Not sure he would though. Either way I don’t think there is anyway Cleveland makes him a QO.

  65. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    mick-

    That was a mistake.

  66. Against All Odds October 14th, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    mick October 14th, 2013 at 1:25 pm
    Ortiz is beloved in Boston. Arod hated in NY.
    Wonder why…

    —————–

    Because ppl are hypocrites.

  67. GregD October 14th, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    blake October 14th, 2013 at 1:58 pm
    If Colorado would do Nova, Phelps, Heathcott, and Nunez for Tulo would you do it? Lets say we have already signed Tanaka and Kuroda has signed a 1 year deal.

    ————–
    I would be tempted…….the one player we might regret losing would be Nova….he will be our best pitcher next year

  68. tomingeorgia October 14th, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    blake,
    No!

  69. Hassey October 14th, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    MTU – In recent years, how often have you had to haze off coyotes from your mops?

  70. blake October 14th, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    Ruiz would probably be more on their radar than AJP….they reportedly check into trading for Ruiz this year.

  71. mick October 14th, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    Mike Fran with shoddy 2nd giess theories on not leaving Scherzer in.
    104 pitches were enough…what if it happened in the next inning?
    Bet Leyland never pulls that move again.

  72. luis October 14th, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    No Blake…Nova is top of the rotation and he is controlled for a few years still… take him out of the equation and I would

  73. mick October 14th, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    Because ppl are hypocrites.
    ==================
    I think they are true to their word.
    They hated Alex from the get go, nothing’s changed.
    If he’s on the field I pull for whoever helps the team.

  74. AndyL October 14th, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    I expect the Yankees to sign Peralta to play short behind Jeter when necessary and third the rest of the time. Mustelier should back him up at third.

  75. mick October 14th, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    Trades are a gamble.
    I would do Nova straight up for Tulo.

  76. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    Hassey-

    Never. They are shy and reclusive out this way.

    Way more worried about a chance encounter with a rattler.

    I only run them in the wilderness in the Winter now because of it.

    We came real close to losing one that way. Fortunately we got lucky.

    After that I learned my lesson.

  77. pkyankfan69 October 14th, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    Nova, Phelps, Heathcott, and Nunez
    —————————-
    Nova hurts big time.
    Phelps – Meh
    Heathcott – Could work out but the %’s are against him
    Nunez – Who cares?

    I’d try hard to change Nova to like Ramirez + Turley but I’d do it as is.

  78. GregD October 14th, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    I root for all Yankees too……

  79. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    AJ P. would be a better fit for NYS than Ruiz.

  80. mick October 14th, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    mtu

    ajp would not have been the difference in our season.
    i think we make the playoffs if gardy doesn’t go down.

  81. 86w183 October 14th, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    Not sure it’s a shoddy second guess… I said it when it happened to let Scherzer go to 120. I also think he should have gone with the power arm of Coke instead of Smyly

    Don’t want to deal Nova… he’s crucial when you view the team thru the prism of $ 189 M.

    Ubaldo will definitely opt out. Don’t think he’ll get a QO, but I can see him getting $ 10-12 M a year on a three year deal. I think Kazmir might be a better buy.

  82. Warning Track Power October 14th, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    blake October 14th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
    “I’ll stick with my opinion on the comments and choose against being swayed by you.”

    That’s fine but did you hear the interview or read the transcript?
    ————————————————————————————-
    I read.

  83. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    Blake-

    If you think Nova will go back to being inconsistent then you could sell high on him.

    If you believe as I do that he has found something then he is a stud and you keep him.

    ;)

  84. blake October 14th, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    “No Blake…Nova is top of the rotation and he is controlled for a few years still… take him out of the equation and I would”

    it’s risky but I’d do it……Nova was great last year but I’m still not 100% sold that this is who he is…….we’ve seen him lose his sinker before and be terrible for long stretches too. Maybe he’s turned the corner and that won’t happen again……but I’m not sold enough on that to not use him to get the best SS in baseball if I had a chance. Tulo+ Cano instantly would make the middle of the lineup relevant again……

  85. sammiejohnson October 14th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    “I would do Nova straight up for Tulo.”

    But Colorado wouldn’t.

  86. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    Mick-

    Everything adds up.

    Yes. GGBG going down really hurt.

  87. Hassey October 14th, 2013 at 2:08 pm

    MTU – we have a fast growing problem with coyotes in this part of NY state…local cats and dogs disappearing all the time.

    Venomouos snakes are out here, but unless you are a serious, frequent hiker, you’re more likely to find a copperhead in your basement than see one near your house. That being said, you always have to be careful when you reach into the pile of firewood. That and those nasty brown recluse spiders

  88. joeman October 14th, 2013 at 2:08 pm

    blake October 14th, 2013 at 1:58 pm
    If Colorado would do Nova, Phelps, Heathcott, and Nunez for Tulo would you do it? Lets say we have already signed Tanaka and Kuroda has signed a 1 year deal.

    ———————————————
    I wouldn’t trade Tulo for that..there’s nothing there

  89. Against All Odds October 14th, 2013 at 2:08 pm

    mick October 14th, 2013 at 2:02 pm
    Because ppl are hypocrites.
    ==================
    I think they are true to their word.
    They hated Alex from the get go, nothing’s changed.
    If he’s on the field I pull for whoever helps the team

    =======================

    I do the same thing but we all know when it comes to certain players there are different rules.

  90. mick October 14th, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    Not sure it’s a shoddy second guess… I said it when it happened to let Scherzer go to 120. I also think he should have gone with the power arm of Coke instead of Smyly
    =================
    Mike said Leyland did the right thing. I disagree as it’s Fenway.
    Benoit was rattled in game 1. He threw a changeup on his 1st and only pitch to Ortiz.
    Again, I don’t think Leyland makes that move for Scherzer again.

  91. Against All Odds October 14th, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    mick October 14th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
    Trades are a gamble.
    I would do Nova straight up for Tulo.

    —————————-

    They wouldn’t even pick up the phone.

  92. mick October 14th, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    =======================

    I do the same thing but we all know when it comes to certain players there are different rules.
    ===================
    The player sets the rules.

  93. blake October 14th, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    “I read.”

    was just telling you you that his tone in the interview wasn’t really reflected in the text…..it was a round about answer to basically avoid really answering the question.

  94. blake October 14th, 2013 at 2:10 pm

    MTU,
    I hope Nova is what he was in 2013…..but I’m still not sure what he is to be honest.

  95. Against All Odds October 14th, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    mick October 14th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
    =======================

    I do the same thing but we all know when it comes to certain players there are different rules.
    ===================
    The player sets the rules.

    ——————————–

    No true sometimes the rules are set w/o the player having any input. It doesn’t even have to be an athlete some ppl get passes in life that others don’t.

  96. mick October 14th, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    They wouldn’t even pick up the phone.
    ===============
    So throw in those other guys.
    If they get Tanaka and Kuroda even more so.

  97. 86w183 October 14th, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    I think fantasizing about a major SS acquisition needs to be put on hold until Jeter hangs ‘em up. I don’t believe the Yanks will force his hand like Baltimore did with Ripken.

  98. Warning Track Power October 14th, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    mick October 14th, 2013 at 1:25 pm
    Ortiz is beloved in Boston. Arod hated in NY.
    Wonder why…
    ———————————————————————-
    Probably the $25 million dollar salary and being the highest paid player in MLB.

    If Ortiz was making the same $$$, I am certain that Ortiz would receive the same criticism.

  99. mick October 14th, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    No true sometimes the rules are set w/o the player having any input. It doesn’t even have to be an athlete some ppl get passes in life that others don’t.
    ===========================
    We are talking about Alex vs Ortiz.

  100. mick October 14th, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    If Ortiz was making the same $$$, I am certain that Ortiz would receive the same criticism.
    ======================
    Did you see what Ortiz did last night?
    He didn’t chirp about it in the postgame.
    That’s the difference.

  101. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    Hassey-

    They still offer a bounty here in Utah for coyote pelts.

    The Ranchers don’t like them.

    It must be different when your livestock are threatened.

    Me. I see them mostly out in the wilderness at a fair distance, and when they see me they usually want to move off. That’s too bad because I like observing and photographing them rather than shooting them.

  102. Against All Odds October 14th, 2013 at 2:14 pm

    mick October 14th, 2013 at 2:11 pm
    They wouldn’t even pick up the phone.
    ===============
    So throw in those other guys.
    If they get Tanaka and Kuroda even more so.

    ———————————

    Then they would pick up the phone hear the offer and then hang up

  103. luis October 14th, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    Got to go..

    Primo!! Take care ;) see ya in December!

    Blake,

    Straight up I would do it in a heartbeat…An everyday ball player has more value than a pitcher IMO…Especially one like Tulo… On Nova´s, I will only say “wait and see”. He will suprise you… He is very underrated, yet I think we have an ace in him…One that I would only part from if we get someone like Tulo…But then I wouldn´t give up anything else.

    MTU,

    I hope everything is ok down your end

  104. Against All Odds October 14th, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    mick October 14th, 2013 at 2:12 pm
    No true sometimes the rules are set w/o the player having any input. It doesn’t even have to be an athlete some ppl get passes in life that others don’t.
    ===========================
    We are talking about Alex vs Ortiz.

    ——————————————–

    And the hypocrisy when it comes to both players. It doesn’t just have to be about both of them.

  105. pkyankfan69 October 14th, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    I’m hoping the rotation is CC/Kuroda/Nova/Tanaka/Pineda next year.

    Definitely posible, obviously some questions with that group but they would have the potential to be a very good to great rotation (esp if CC can get close to pre 2013 form.)

  106. mick October 14th, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    Then they would pick up the phone hear the offer and then hang up
    ============================
    who is “they?”

  107. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 2:16 pm

    Blake-

    I am far from sure about him too but I just like that combination he started using.

    He seems to be able to command that sinker way better than his 4-seamer.

    And that coupled with that wipeout curve has me paying attention.

    We’ll see if it is just another temporary gain or the real deal soon enough.

    I’m hoping for the latter.

  108. mick October 14th, 2013 at 2:17 pm

    And the hypocrisy when it comes to both players.
    ==============================
    Back to the hypocrisy again?
    I thought I answered that.
    Again, did you see what Papi did last night?

  109. Against All Odds October 14th, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    mick October 14th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
    Then they would pick up the phone hear the offer and then hang up
    ============================
    who is “they?”

    —————–

    The Colorado Rockies.

  110. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    Luis-

    All stable for now on the western front. Storm clouds in the distance for now.

    Hope that’s where they stay.

    How bout you ?

    No plans to exit yet ?

    Be careful amigo. Things can turn on a dime sometimes.

    We will give you shelter from the storm here if you need it.

    Just say the word.

    ;)

  111. blake October 14th, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    “He seems to be able to command that sinker way better than his 4-seamer.”

    I don’t know that he commands it better so much as he just doesn’t need as much command because he so much better of a pitch……I think that’s the biggest thing for Nova…..he’s doesn’t have great command but when he’s sinking the ball at 94 it doesn’t matter because guys can’t get on top of it. he’s a totally different pitcher when that 2 seamer is working…..

  112. mick October 14th, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    I am far from sure about him too but I just like that combination he started using
    =============
    No doubt Nova has an arm, a big one.
    The problem is in his head and it has resurfaced time and again.
    Why do you think that problem has been solved?.
    In the middle of his resurgence he got lit up by the red sox.

  113. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    Blake-

    That 2-seamer was terrific all 2nd half.

    I think he has finally found a consistent enough arm slot to make it work.

    We’ll see.

    He was using that 4-seamer too much.

    Now he just uses it occasionally and relies on the 2-seamer and curve.

    He uses the 2-seam for DP’s and increasing his efficiency and the curve when he needs a K to end an inning or put a hitter away.

  114. Against All Odds October 14th, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    mick October 14th, 2013 at 2:17 pm
    And the hypocrisy when it comes to both players.
    ==============================
    Back to the hypocrisy again?
    I thought I answered that.
    Again, did you see what Papi did last night?

    —————–

    I don’t care if Papi walks on the moon after the day. The fact that the fans in Boston chant steroids makes the whole thing even funnier. It would like Yankee fans chanting roids at Braun.

  115. Hassey October 14th, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    fade to black with Vincent Price’s laugh from Thriller

  116. randy l. October 14th, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    you know what, i don’t even have to check with him. tomingeorgia . we don’t usually get along on baseball things so well, but i know he’s got my back with you and i his.

    people like you can’t exist in the light.

    you are just showing everyone who you are and the problems you cause.

    thanks.

    it’s way easier than having to explain it to everyone.

  117. Hassey October 14th, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    Is this Mel Brooks’ Psycho-Neurotic Institute for the Very, Very Nervous ?

  118. blake October 14th, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    MTU,
    you’ve been on the Nova train a long time……I’m thinking about boarding but I need a little more convincing still. Have drinks ready if I do board :)

  119. blake October 14th, 2013 at 2:49 pm

    the last train I was on (Hughes express)……derailed into a giant canyon.

  120. randy l. October 14th, 2013 at 2:51 pm

    chad needs to quit deleting this stuff from CR(9) so everyone can see it.

    chad, leave it so people can see the threats.

    transparency is the best thing.

    it’s not fair to not warn people coming on this blog that they may be harassed at home or their family members.

    people should have the choice of commenting here or not once they know the risk.

  121. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    Blake-

    Don’t be surprised if Hughes blossoms elsewhere.

    We don’t need the Nova excuse to have a drink do we ?

    ;)

  122. blake October 14th, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    MTU,
    I think he might…..and of course not

  123. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 2:56 pm

    Blake-

    I’m still on the Phelps train as well. You’re welcome to board that one too.

    I always liked Rodney Dangerfield, a.k.a. David Phelps.

  124. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    And the Warren train.

    And Nuno train.

    I like trains. Had my 1st Lionel set a long time ago. Haven’t lost my interest I guess.

    :)

  125. Barry October 14th, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    Greg D

    I’m not orchestrating a trade merely suggesting that David Freese could be available and the front office might very well target him. He is a New York kind of player.

  126. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    Woo ! Woo !

    All aboard.

    Next stop.

    Top of the Mountain.

    A young, quality Yankees Rotation.

    :)

  127. randy l. October 14th, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    the nut job is calling nonstop.

    little does he know how easy it is to have the ringer turned off on a cell phone .
    i only answer people i know anyway

    he’ll never get a message to me.

    what a dunce . half the blog knows my email address and he can’t figure it out.

    whoa, real scary hacker dude :)

  128. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    Barry-

    Phelps is from the St. Louis area.

    Let’s send him home.

    ;)

  129. randy l. October 14th, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    “Don’t be surprised if Hughes blossoms elsewhere.”

    mtu-

    i fully expect hughes to have a long successful mlb career.

    pat m has always championed him, and i’ve always like hughes.

    he just simply wasn’t coached right and developed right.

    he’ll now get a chance to start fresh. he really needs to choose the right place to continue his career.

  130. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    Randy-

    Wratchett was way worse.

    ;)

  131. Tar October 14th, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    Isn’t there something like *(star) 69 or something that allows you to call back your last call?

  132. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    Randy-

    San Diego sounds like an excellent spot.

    Nice climate, Ocean nearby, beautiful women, and a huge ballpark.

    Or the Halos. Same sort of deal.

    Surfs up Phil.

    :)

  133. Hassey October 14th, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    Hughes isn;t blossoming anywhere

  134. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    And close to home.

    ;)

  135. Hassey October 14th, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    I mean, in my respectful opinion, Hughes isn’t blossoming anywhere

  136. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    Hassey-

    Better consider getting your surprised face on because he just might.

    It won’t be the first time or the last.

    ;)

  137. Warning Track Power October 14th, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    mick October 14th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
    If Ortiz was making the same $$$, I am certain that Ortiz would receive the same criticism.
    ======================
    Did you see what Ortiz did last night?
    He didn’t chirp about it in the postgame.
    That’s the difference.
    ———————————————————-
    What is “it”???
    Chirp about what exactly???

  138. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    And IMHO he just might.

  139. Hassey October 14th, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    The only difference between Hughes in NY and Highes out West is that he’ll be getting pulled in the fourth inning three hours later

  140. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    Randy-

    I want Kuroda and Ichiro to make Tanaka feel welcome.

    ;)

  141. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    Kuroda should be Mr. T’s mentor.

    :)

  142. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    Hassey-

    I hope you like crow. Be prepared.

    :)

  143. Duh Innings II October 14th, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    Brendan Ryan should be the everyday SS as he is the best defensive SS in baseball.

    Juan Uribe should be signed to a one-year $6M contract to be the 3B.

    Jeter should share DH with a re-signed for $4M Reynolds who could back up at 1B.

    A re-signed Nix could be the backup 2B/3B/SS.

    The bench would be Romine, Reynolds, Nix, and unfortunately Suzuki unless the Yanks get rid of him and either make Almonte the fourth outfielder or sign someone to be that.

    Mustelier and Austin have ZERO MLB experience, so forget them.

    Why trade for Freese when you can just sign Uribe, re-sign Reynolds, have Jeter take some groundballs at 3B, and call up Adams? Why would St.Louis trade a fan favorite, a World Series MVP for them, and a .286 lifetime hitter who is still making peanuts relative to Beltre, Rodriguez, Ramirez etc. under control through 2015?

    Young is too old now that I think about it.

    ‘Been there done that with Youkilis, unless he wants to re-sign for a year and $600K after he stole $12M from the Yankees this season. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Red Sox paid him under the table to do something to get hurt.

    A-Rod is finished as a field player. The only way he should come back is as a full-time DH. Time to stop letting the inmates run the asylum.

    Nunez has time and time again shown he cannot play the field or stay healthy, so forget him. In fact, trade him.

    Adams is ok but just that. I would call him up to man 3B if Uribe got hurt or really sucked. Adams is the one low-risk high-reward guy of the bunch.

    Nix is best as a backup 2B/3B/SS.

    Aramis Ramirez is too expensive ($16M salary for 2014 plus $4M buyout = $20M total.)

  144. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    Hughes has the secret weapon now.

    It only took LR till the time he was ready to depart to teach him it. How’s that for being on top of things.

    Mr. Splitty and Mr. Hughes should become real good pals now. Even if it’s a few yrs. too late.

    ;)

  145. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    Brendan Ryan needs to get rid of that wet noodle he calls a bat first.

    All D shortstops are a dime a dozen.

    ;)

  146. kd October 14th, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    randy,

    so sorry this is happening to you. this shouldn’t be and this type of behavior cannot be tolerated.

    baseball: nova is the best asset the yankees have to trade. nova for elvis andrus and few prospects would be a huge win

  147. Warning Track Power October 14th, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    Hughes might have an IPK breakout season, but then he will quickly fall back to earth
    and become an average MLB starter.
    There is not greatness in Hughes.

  148. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 3:20 pm

    WTP-

    You sure about that ?

    You sound certain.

    ;)

  149. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    kd-

    IMO it wouldn’t be a huge win if Nova becomes the #2 stud some of us think he is capable of being.

    It would be a huge loss.

    :(

  150. Duh Innings II October 14th, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    C – Brian McCann signed through 2017 or any two from Cervelli, Romine, and Murphy if they can’t get him – no to John Buck or Jarrod Saltalamacchia
    1B – Teixiera signed through 2016
    2B – Omar Infante signed through 2016 or Adams if they can’t get him
    3B – Juan Uribe signed for 2014 only
    SS – Ryan re-signed through 2015
    LF – Soriano in his walk year
    CF – Gardner in his walk year
    RF – Carlos Beltran signed for 2014 for $15M
    DH – Jeter in his walk year (primary DH)

    Bench: Romine (C), Reynolds (1B/3B), Nix (2B/SS/3B), Suzuki, Almonte, or TBD (OF)

    The only positions the Yanks wouldn’t be flexible at for 2015 are C, 1B, and 2B, only 1B if they went homegrown at C and 2B.

  151. MTU October 14th, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    Alright.

    Enough of that.

    Time to go paint me a door.

    Back later.

    :)

  152. randy l. October 14th, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    kd-

    it could be happening to anyone of you.

    i say lets just keep ignoring the guy and keep talking baseball.

    all he’s going to do is bring people on the blog together who usually spar.

    me and nick in sf used to butt heads all the time.

    now we’re on the same team.
    and nick will be back soon i’ll bet.

  153. randy l. October 14th, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    MTU October 14th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
    “Randy-

    Wratchett was way worse.

    mtu-

    are you kidding” she’d be good to have around. no one would would dare come near you with her there :)

  154. blake October 14th, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    “baseball: nova is the best asset the yankees have to trade. nova for elvis andrus and few prospects would be a huge win”

    I’d certainly trade Nova for Tulo…..I’d be more hesitant on Elvis……great defender and I love his game but his bat still is in that mediocre range for a SS……I think it’ll improve more but it would need to to justify the trade. That said…..solving SS long term might be worth more than Nova…..

  155. Duh Innings II October 14th, 2013 at 3:30 pm

    MTU October 14th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
    Brendan Ryan needs to get rid of that wet noodle he calls a bat first.

    All D shortstops are a dime a dozen.

    ;)

    ——

    BS. Watch the Yanks let go of Ryan and Ryan hit .270 and guess what? He’d be the best all-around SS in baseball between his hitting, defense, and cost. It would be the Yanks’ dumb luck if that happened.

    Jeter is best served as a full-time DH who ideally has a 2012 Chipper Jones-like 2014.

  156. Hassey October 14th, 2013 at 3:30 pm

    MTU – I will gladly eat crow, as long as you have the right kind of horse radish

  157. blake October 14th, 2013 at 3:35 pm

    “BS. Watch the Yanks let go of Ryan and Ryan hit .270 and guess what? He’d be the best all-around SS in baseball between his hitting, defense, and cost. It would be the Yanks’ dumb luck if that happened.”

    he’s 31 years old and has played 7 years in the big leagues with a .237 career BA and over the last 4 years his slash line is .217/.283/.294/.577. Why would he all the sudden become a good hitter?

  158. randy l. October 14th, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    “Brendan Ryan needs to get rid of that wet noodle he calls a bat first.”

    how can a guy be such a good athlete and such a bad hitter .

    it’s a stick.

    make stick hit ball.

    not hard.

  159. Warning Track Power October 14th, 2013 at 3:37 pm

    MTU October 14th, 2013 at 3:20 pm
    WTP-

    You sure about that ?

    You sound certain.

    ;)
    ————————————————————
    Yes I am. Which is why I can’t wait for Hughes to wear another uniform as a SP

  160. kd October 14th, 2013 at 3:38 pm

    my guess is that nova might be a inconsistent moving forward. elvis can play 2b if cano signs somewhere else. if cano stays, might be the best defensive middle of the diamond in the bigs, with a healthy gardner playing cf

    jeter’s gonna have to dh 3 to 4 days a week.

  161. randy l. October 14th, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    “Hughes might have an IPK breakout season, but then he will quickly fall back to earth
    and become an average MLB starter.
    There is not greatness in Hughes.”

    wtp-

    what happens if a team like the rays gets him?

    they will break him down and help him decide on a style and strategy to pitch and the help him execute that plan.

    i think the yankees better hope he doesn’t go to the rays.

  162. sammiejohnson October 14th, 2013 at 3:42 pm

    I am not so sure Texas would be willing to move Andrus for say Nova. I still think that if Texas moves a MI for a SP it will be Profar+ for Price.

  163. Triple Short of a Cycle October 14th, 2013 at 3:44 pm

    BS. Watch the Yanks let go of Ryan and Ryan hit .270 and guess what? He’d be the best all-around SS in baseball between his hitting, defense, and cost. It would be the Yanks’ dumb luck if that happened.

    ————————————————————

    2010 .223
    2011 .248
    2012 .194
    2013 .197

    Highly doubt Ryan sniffs 250 let alone 270

  164. Wave Your Hat October 14th, 2013 at 3:44 pm

    It doesn’t matter where Hughes goes. He may get it together, or may not, but it is obvious he isn’t doing it with the Yanks. I’m no more concerned about the Yanks facing him than any other once-high prospect who never found consistent success.

  165. David in Cal October 14th, 2013 at 3:46 pm

    I’d love to see Jeter field well enough, hit well enough and be healthy enough to be the regular third baseman. However, I guess Reynolds will get the largest number of starts there.

  166. randy l. October 14th, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    wave your hat-

    what i mean about hughes going to a place like tampa is they are already strong. if they help him figure it out, they just get that much stronger. .

    no one pitcher is going to be scary. it’s a whole team of good pitchers that becomes a problem

  167. Hassey October 14th, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    Hughes was pretty scary this past year

  168. kd October 14th, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    hughes may do very well outside of the bright lights of NYC. he was supposed to pitch like a perennial all star when he was 20. seattle, san diego, sf, or the dodgers could be great for him

  169. randy l. October 14th, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    ahh nteresting new development.

    CR(9) has figured out how to call me from my 84 and 92 year old parent’s phone number.

    nice trick.

    just letting you folks know what to expect from this guy.

    it’s terribly inconvenient. it takes half a second to hang up :)

    ooooh scary.

    what next?

  170. Triple Short of a Cycle October 14th, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    How did he get your parents number?


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