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Cano named Gold Glove finalist (no other Yankees chosen)

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 25, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Robinson CanoRobinson Cano is the only Yankees finalist for a Gold Glove. Three finalists at each position were announced today by Rawlings. The entire Tampa Bay infield is nominated, as were two of the three outfielders in Boston, Baltimore, Oakland and Kansas City. The Orioles lead the way with six finalists.

The biggest Yankees snub seems to be center fielder Brett Gardner, but his defensive metrics are not particularly overwhelming. Of course, neither are Adams Jones, who was named as a finalist. Just based on watching, I think I’d put Gardner more or less on par with the three players chosen by Rawlings, but I also fully believe that defensive impact is very difficult to measure.

Here’s the full list of American League Gold Glove finalists.

Pitcher
Mark Buehrle — Toronto Blue Jays
R.A. Dickey — Toronto Blue Jays
Doug Fister — Detroit Tigers

Catcher
Joe Mauer — Minnesota Twins
Salvador Perez — Kansas City Royals
Matt Wieters — Baltimore Orioles

First base
Chris Davis — Baltimore Orioles
Eric Hosmer — Kansas City Royals
James Loney — Tampa Bay Rays

Second base
Robinson Cano — New York Yankees
Dustin Pedroia — Boston Red Sox
Ben Zobrist — Tampa Bay Rays

Third base
Adrian Beltre –Texas Rangers
Evan Longoria — Tampa Bay Rays
Manny Machado — Baltimore Orioles

Shortstop
Alcides Escobar — Kansas City Royals
Yunel Escobar — Tampa Bay Rays
J.J. Hardy — Baltimore Orioles

Left field
Yoenis Cespedes — Oakland Athletics
Andy Dirks — Detroit Tigers
Alex Gordon — Kansas City Royals

Center field
Lorenzo Cain — Kansas City Royals
Jacoby Ellsbury — Boston Red Sox
Adam Jones — Baltimore Orioles

Right field
Nick Markakis — Baltimore Orioles
Josh Reddick — Oakland Athletics
Shane Victorino — Boston Red Sox

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102 Responses to “Cano named Gold Glove finalist (no other Yankees chosen)”

  1. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 25th, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    “If Alex gets suspended for 100 games or less, this still ends up looking like a loss for MLB.”

    I personally don’t care how this looks for either of the parties involved. All I want to see is justice according to the evidence.

  2. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue October 25th, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    “…. wouldn’t the arbitrator have to do research on the evidence before making any conclusions? Man, this could take forever.”

    That’s where the weight of the evidence would come in. The arbitrator would want to track it back to its original source and if there is a way to have it documented as unblemished, he would want to do that.

    ————–

    I just wonder how deep the arbitrator can/will dig here.. I dunno that the original documents exist since MLB couldn’t get them (and apparently they tried to very much).

    Could this thing drag on for months based on an investigation of the evidence…??

  3. blake October 25th, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    no Chris Stewart!! the outrage

  4. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 25th, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    I would think that Robby is a shoe-in for the GG

    ********************

    Shame – what exactly did someone (Jones?) turn over to MLB? I have to admit that I haven’t been following this much since it went to arbitration because all that is left is for the arbitrator to rule.

    And who is Jones, and how did he get whatever it is?

  5. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    There’s no way he gets off clean.. if he did the other players suspended would probably throw a fit.. but MLB may have messed this up. For this to be an MLB victory, they need him to be gone for a full season.

  6. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    trisha – This article pat posted earlier kinda sums it up: http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/st.....-documents

  7. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 25th, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    I doubt it will drag on for months. If the only issue at hand dealt with what was being turned over, it might be more dicey. But my understanding is that there are several charges being leveled. If the stolen evidence deals with Boesch, the arbitrator could decide that there is credibility based on all of the other Boesch suspensions that were accepted and the players who came out and admitted. And if Arod decides not to testify – his right – the arbitrator would have to decide based solely on what is out there informationally, and in frot of him.

    I hope he’s getting paid well for this horror show!

  8. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    According to an interview Fischer did, it was evidence that tied players to Biogenesis that – oddly enough – I believe he said he basically stole. This stolen evidence was stolen from his car. Jones bought it, and filmed the transaction with MLB, but claims he didn’t steal it from Fischer and doesn’t know who did.

  9. pat October 25th, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    Mike Vaccaro
    Michael O’Keefe is embarrassing himself – and newspaper journalism – with this immature, name calling rant. Someone stop him. Please.

    NYDNSportsITeam
    @MikeVacc You misspelled O’Keeffe.

    EliIsELITE
    Vaccaro has crushed you every time you barked. Haven’t you learned your lesson yet?

    NYDNSportsITeam
    @EliIsELITE @MikeVacc We do know how to spell.

    MikeVacc
    It’s just everything else that’s called into question.

  10. 86w183 October 25th, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    Adam Jones is a vastly overrated defensive player. Gardner is a better LF than CF.

    Since team A-Rod says it needs at least a week to present it’s case, my guess is they’ll finish around Thanksgiving with a verdict for Christmas.

    “We wish you a Merry Christmas,you’re suspended one year!”

  11. mick October 25th, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    you can have your own post removed?
    how and why is that done?

  12. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 25th, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    “According to a police report, Jones told a Boca Raton police investigator that he “did not steal anything from anyone and did not break into Fischer’s car … he did not see or have any information related to the burglary.” Jones also told the investigator that he had not spoken with Rodriguez or MLB officials. Attempts to reach Jones by “Outside the Lines” this week were unsuccessful.”

    Shame, this looks like a big he said, she said.

    I don’t see anything in that article that verifies anything at all, just allegations and denials.

  13. jacksquat October 25th, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    “I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it.”

    Never should talk to guys like Francesa.

  14. mick October 25th, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    Once again Alex hijacks the baseball talk.

  15. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 25th, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    “you can have your own post removed?
    how and why is that done?”

    I don’t think anyone had her or his own post removed. I think a post was removed and what was said about it being removed was said in a manner of speaking and in a jocular way.

    That said, I’m sure someone could ask to have her or his own post removed if the person felt there was good reason to do it. All you’d do is email Chad and ask him to remove it.

  16. Giuseppe Franco October 25th, 2013 at 3:20 pm

    mick October 25th, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    Who do they have to listen to in Chicago or in your area?

    —-

    I never listen to sports talk radio since I’m not a fan of any of the Chicago teams.

    For the most part, I listen to my iPod in mar car.

  17. mick October 25th, 2013 at 3:20 pm

    unknown said see you in 2014 and that was removed?
    strange…

  18. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 25th, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    “Once again Alex hijacks the baseball talk.”

    mick, I don’t know that Alex hijacked it as much as broadcasters or reporters who want to keep their rating up on slow sports days…

  19. mick October 25th, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    Not sure how you can stomach listening to Francesa.

    Because he’s a buffoon and doesn’t know jack about baseball in the modern age.
    ===============================
    Surprising as he is on Arod’s side as you are.

  20. mick October 25th, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    mick, I don’t know that Alex hijacked it as much as broadcasters or reporters who want to keep their rating up on slow sports days…
    ==========================
    well then some here must also be having a slow day.

  21. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 25th, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    Unknown said a lot more than that.

    Chad has ben removing inflammatory posts for a while. It’s actually a very good thing since those posts do nothing to add to the purpose of a baseball forum but only tend to sidetrack it.

  22. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    I don’t see anything in that article that verifies anything at all, just allegations and denials.

    —————

    Well, it confirms that MLB bought evidence in cash (since Jones has the video of that) and that it had sketchy origins.

    Would pay to see that Jones video lol.. I wonder if he used Google Glasses.

  23. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 25th, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    “well then some here must also be having a slow day.”

    Well, that too.

    :)

  24. randy l. October 25th, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    “no Chris Stewart!! the outrage” …. and the umbrage.

    how can a team be built around pitching, but not around defense at the same time.

    both are equally important for run prevention.

    one more reason why the present management make little sense.

  25. pat October 25th, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    Shame
    I want to know what evidence/documents were offered to Randy Levine that he declined to buy and if he reported it to MLB?

  26. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 25th, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    “Well, it confirms that MLB bought evidence in cash (since Jones has the video of that) and that it had sketchy origins.”

    From the article that was posted there is nothing that says Jones has any video.

    Are there previous reports where he has admitted to having that video, and have independent sources verified that? Again, I haven’t been keeping up with all of the extracurricular articles.

  27. mick October 25th, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    Well Shame Victorino seems to be enjoying Arod’s Theater of the Absurd.

  28. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 3:29 pm

    trisha: “ESPN New York’s Wallace Matthews reported Wednesday on two payments made by Rodriguez associates and Major League Baseball related to the allegedly stolen documents: that MLB officials paid $150,000 for the documents, and that A-Rod associates paid Jones $200,000 for a video he had made of MLB officials paying him for the records. Rodriguez has tried during his ongoing arbitration hearing regarding his 211-game suspension to show that MLB has tainted the evidence-gathering process against him.”

    MLB and Arod paid the same guy lol.

  29. Giuseppe Franco October 25th, 2013 at 3:30 pm

    mick October 25th, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    Not sure how you can stomach listening to Francesa.

    Because he’s a buffoon and doesn’t know jack about baseball in the modern age.
    ===============================
    Surprising as he is on Arod’s side as you are.

    ——

    I’m sure there are plenty of idiots out there who agree with me on this issue but that’s not nearly enough for me to want to listen to him for a few hours.

    Same goes for Kay. Can’t stomach him either.

  30. mick October 25th, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    Over the course of the season pitching and defense gets overlooked but not so much in the post season.

    Lack of defense was responsible for both losses in the WS.

  31. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 25th, 2013 at 3:32 pm

    Shame, I saw that. But later in the article it said that Jones denied he had talked to Arod or MLB.

    That’s why I said the article looks like a he said, she said.

  32. mick October 25th, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    I’m sure there are plenty of idiots out there who agree with me on this issue but that’s not nearly enough for me to want to listen to him for a few hours.
    ========================
    Must have many idiots around here as he kills with his ratings on TV.

  33. mick October 25th, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    In fact, whenever 2 guys scream at each other on the radio and esp TV, you can guarantee good ratings.

    Check some old Mike and the Mad Dog youtubes.

  34. mick October 25th, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    This guy Sam from NYC just told Mike he’s been here 25 years and thanked Mike for teaching him English.

    Can’t make this up…

  35. mick October 25th, 2013 at 3:38 pm

    Same goes for Kay. Can’t stomach him either.
    =====================
    Never a big fan but he is better on his talk show than as a broadcaster.

  36. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 3:38 pm

    trisha – That’s what he told the police at the time but it sounds like a different version was reported in the arb hearing based on Matthews’ report.

  37. mick October 25th, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    Knicks cut 5.
    JR’s bro makes the team.

  38. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 25th, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    Shame, who in hell knows at this point!

    And since all of this information is supposed to be confidential, I don’t know what leaked reports are believable anyway.

    I do know, however, that stolen evidence is admissible.

    ;)

    Check you out later.

  39. blake October 25th, 2013 at 3:44 pm

    “how can a team be built around pitching, but not around defense at the same time.”

    ask Detroit…..best rotation in baseball…..probably the worst defense. Of course their rotation strikes out tons of guys so that helps.

  40. sammiejohnson October 25th, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    Still hard to believe that Detroit went into the season with that good of offense, that good of a rotation, and nothing at the back of the bullpen. I was sure that the one no-brainer move at the TDL was Detroit getting themselves a closer and moving Beniot back to his spot in the 8th inning. Not doing so cost the Tigers’ big in the ALCS.

  41. blake October 25th, 2013 at 3:51 pm

    “Still hard to believe that Detroit went into the season with that good of offense, that good of a rotation, and nothing at the back of the bullpen. I was sure that the one no-brainer move at the TDL was Detroit getting themselves a closer and moving Beniot back to his spot in the 8th inning. Not doing so cost the Tigers’ big in the ALCS.”

    bit them in the back side too…..only reason Boston won that series was because of how bad Detroit’s pen was …..well that and that Miggy was hurt and Fielder disappeared (hows that contract looking right now…yikes)

  42. randy l. October 25th, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    hey did i miss much today?

    so are the red sox still cheating, alex still evil, and the yankees still missing the playoffs because of injuries?

    also has karma landed on anyone yet?
    it’s so confusing adding up all the plus and negative karma :)

  43. sammiejohnson October 25th, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    Two years ago people were arguing which one would be the better deal, Albert or Prince. Now people are arguing which is the worst contract between the two. If I had to pick I’d say Pujols’ deal looks worse right now, but not by much.

    Be very aware of the dangers of any more long term deals, Mr. Cashman.

  44. randy l. October 25th, 2013 at 4:02 pm

    “Be very aware of the dangers of any more long term deals, Mr. Cashman.”

    yup, read last night that neither team in the world series had any players in the top 25 paid players in the game.

  45. blake October 25th, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    “Two years ago people were arguing which one would be the better deal, Albert or Prince. Now people are arguing which is the worst contract between the two. If I had to pick I’d say Pujols’ deal looks worse right now, but not by much.”

    Prince is at least healthy and is a few years younger too…..both are bad but I’d rather have Fielder I guess.

  46. blake October 25th, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    I’d rather have Prince and his contract right now than Tex and his…..

  47. blake October 25th, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    In recent history all the WS teams have this in common…..really good bullpens. It’s become pretty vital to win in October.

  48. sammiejohnson October 25th, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    “I’d rather have Prince and his contract right now than Tex and his….”

    It’s close. Right now though, Tex has only three years left on his deal while Prince has SEVEN years left on his.

  49. randy l. October 25th, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    “Tex has only three years left on his deal …”

    that’s the most encouraging thing i’ve heard today.

    there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

  50. blake October 25th, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    “It’s close. Right now though, Tex has only three years left on his deal while Prince has SEVEN years left on his.”

    true but Prince is only 29 and is a much better bet to bounce back and actually be good again. In 3 years the Yanks might be in a better position to absorb the rest of Prince’s deal…..Tex’s is just crushing them in the present.

    Fielder just had the worst year of his career by far and still put up a 120 OPS+…..Tex hasn’t done that since 2011.

  51. blake October 25th, 2013 at 4:22 pm

    Prince’s issue this year was that he didn’t hit RHP like he usually does……he had an exact even split at .819 OPS vs both. He actually hit for better avg vs LHP.

    Prince has always murdered RHP…..he hit .328 with a 1.017 OPS vs RHP in 2012 so I’d expect he will be better in 2014.

    He could be entering a decline but his swing is a lot better than Tex’s is.

  52. sammiejohnson October 25th, 2013 at 4:24 pm

    Yes, Fielder has a much better chance of bouncing back and maybe even being worth his contract (sort of) for say the next three years. Then Detroit will have to absorb those last four years of probable decline. The Yankees’ are already absorbing Tex’s decline.

  53. blake October 25th, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    “Then Detroit will have to absorb those last four years of probable decline. The Yankees’ are already absorbing Tex’s decline.”

    1) we don’t know that he will decline as sharply as Tex has…..we know for sure Tex is declining fast.
    2) the Yankees would have time to prepare for those last 4 years or extra 4 years while getting better production now…..plus Arod and Sabathia would be almost off the books by then.

    Neither is good……and the shorter of bad might make the most sense but I could make a case for rather having Prince despite that.

  54. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 4:38 pm

    Blake-

    Got a BBQ question for you or Tom.

    Ever hear of a place called “Dickey’s” ?

    Any good ?

    They just opened up in my small town and I might finally be able to get my fix at long last.

  55. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 4:42 pm

    Arod, CC and Tex all come off the books after the 2016 season, right?

    I think CC will still be okay by then. Not your top dog anymore but still a solid pitcher that you know will give you innings.

    The next three years with Tex and Arod will be an adventure.. It’s going to be a batter between who can stay on the field and be more (or less, depending on your standpoint lol) productive.

  56. J. Alfred Prufrock October 25th, 2013 at 4:45 pm

    There’s a major difference between not locking up 1B even great
    Hitting ones – and thinking you can just
    Allow
    The glue of your infield to walk.

    The comp rather spectacularly ignores that Cano is the best 2B In MLB and a GG defender.

  57. jacksquat October 25th, 2013 at 4:45 pm

    Could be 7 more years of decline from Prince, with Tex you know it’s only 3.

  58. J. Alfred Prufrock October 25th, 2013 at 4:47 pm

    UnKnown – you rock! Nick in SF called it right: you’re a great Yankee fan. :)

  59. J. Alfred Prufrock October 25th, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    Salty looked swift last night :) I doubt we knock on that door, since Girardi has a Place at the DM table.

  60. sammiejohnson October 25th, 2013 at 4:51 pm

    “Arod, CC and Tex all come off the books after the 2016 season, right?”

    Tex comes off the books after 2016.
    Arod is signed through 2017.
    CC is signed through 2016 & has a pretty easy vesting option for 2017.

  61. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    @Haudricourt 21m

    Game 4 will not be an elimination game so Cards manager Mike Matheny said Adam Wainwright will start Game 5.

  62. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 5:00 pm

    Thanks sammie. I always mix up the years on their deals. I think it’s my brain trying to force myself to forget.

  63. blake October 25th, 2013 at 5:05 pm

    MTU,
    never ate at one before…..let me know how it is?

  64. blake October 25th, 2013 at 5:16 pm

    “Could be 7 more years of decline from Prince, with Tex you know it’s only 3.”

    it’s a fair point but we don’t know that there will be 7 more years of decline with Prince…..what if he bounced back and OPS’s .900 for the next 4 years? He had a .940 OPS in 2012.

    Neither option is great…..

  65. tomingeorgia October 25th, 2013 at 5:16 pm

    Mister MTU,
    Never heard of “Dickey’s”, or any other chain BBQ places I’ve liked. The best places are local, run by the founder or his progeny, and around here, only open from Thursday through Saturday. They do three or four pigs a week the old fashioned way. The best whole pig cooker around here is Miss Lizzie Thomas, who’s 78 years old, with a pit in her back yard. Doesn’t do it much anymore, but always calls me the day before she does, and I’m there the next morning.

  66. blake October 25th, 2013 at 5:19 pm

    Whole hog is the pinnacle of bbq…..alas it would take a tiny hog to fit on the green egg.

  67. randy l. October 25th, 2013 at 5:20 pm

    “UnKnown – you rock! Nick in SF called it right: you’re a great Yankee fan.”

    j.al pru-

    what did i miss?

  68. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 5:23 pm

    Thanks guys.

    I’ll let you know.

    But I am sure my standards are way lower than yours.

    You two being experts and all.

    :)

  69. blake October 25th, 2013 at 5:24 pm

    I’m no expert…..as I said yesterday I wanted brisket so bad I got a brisket sandwich from Arbys.

  70. tomingeorgia October 25th, 2013 at 5:25 pm

    blake,
    I could get about a 90 pound pig in mine, but I ain’t going to stay up all night cooking it! Miss Lizzie usually does 110-125 pounders, with her daddy’s recipe. Her stew is great, too.

  71. blake October 25th, 2013 at 5:28 pm

    Tom,

    Id imagine it’s difficult to cook all the different parts at the same time without overcooking some…..like getting the shoulders and hams done without drying out the tenderloin

  72. tomingeorgia October 25th, 2013 at 5:37 pm

    blake,
    It’s all about long and slow, along with basting liberally and turning the sucker over every so often. Not a one-man job, although when Miss Lizzie does it, she recruits a grandson or a nephew, and it’s literally a 12 to 14 hour process, done right. I helped with one once, ate it gratefully, and slept very well the next night. Pulling it is another time-consuming chore, that’s why I leave it to the pros.

  73. blake October 25th, 2013 at 5:38 pm

    Tom ,

    I bet…..looks fun though

  74. randy l. October 25th, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    so blake, would finishing 18 holes of golf with a BBQ brisket dinner on the 19th hole make for a good day ?

    i’m guessing it would.

    i’ve never BBQ’d anything but all this talk between you and tomingeorgia is making me want some BBQ something.

    of all the side things that get talked about on the blog as a sideline to baseball this is right up there at the top for entertainment value.

  75. blake October 25th, 2013 at 5:41 pm

    “so blake, would finishing 18 holes of golf with a BBQ brisket dinner on the 19th hole make for a good day ?”

    Oh yes…..sounds like a very good day. Good brisket would make me even forget about how bad I played

  76. tomingeorgia October 25th, 2013 at 5:41 pm

    blake,
    Find someone who does it and offer to help. The beer’s usually free!

  77. blake October 25th, 2013 at 5:42 pm

    BBQ and baseball go well together ….both American as it gets

  78. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 5:42 pm

    Since it’s almost Halloween I’m sharing these :

    https://picasaweb.google.com/109721757058432487394/HobgoblinSPlayground?authkey=Gv1sRgCIvL3_Ol_NDoXA#

    :)

  79. blake October 25th, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    Not a lot of whole hogs being cooked where I live now…..now when I lived in east NC there was lots. In those days though I only ate BBQ…..didn’t cook it

  80. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 5:44 pm

    I may have lucked into a treasure trove of BBQ with Dickeys.

    And I may have a barter arrangement w Mac to get some Franklins BBQ sauce to lay on it.

    Talk about the luck of the Irish.

    :)

  81. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 5:46 pm

    Blake-

    Having watched so many BBQ TV shows I have lusted after it for a while now.

    If I wasn’t so lazy I’d live on the stuff.

    And since I have the cleanest arteries this side of baby ward I’m cool w eating as much of it as I want.

    :)

  82. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    And these ones too.

    https://picasaweb.google.com/109721757058432487394/DevilsGarden02?authkey=Gv1sRgCNC5_eHPwdimwgE#

  83. blake October 25th, 2013 at 5:50 pm

    MTU,
    Get you a smoker and make it yourself….weber kettles aren’t that expensive I don’t thinkn

  84. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 5:50 pm

    For the health conscious among you.

    Are Flu shots bad for you ?

    Mrs. MTU says they are.

    We argue about it every year.

  85. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    Blake-

    I’m a better consumer than a producer.

    :(

  86. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    Can’t wait to hear what Pat’s workout buddy from the Cubs told him.

    ;)

  87. tomingeorgia October 25th, 2013 at 5:54 pm

    There once was a place calle Pork Palace on 401 south of Raleigh, almost to Fuquay-Varina, that had smoke coming from it’s chimneys day and night. Still exist? Big pink neon pig out front. I expect they’re done by now, with the real estate prices and growth in the area.

  88. blake October 25th, 2013 at 5:56 pm

    Flu shots aren’t bad for you and it’s literally impossible for them to give you the flu . It’s a killed virus in the vaccine…..

  89. blake October 25th, 2013 at 5:57 pm

    tomingeorgia says:
    October 25, 2013 at 5:54 pm
    There once was a place calle Pork Palace on 401 south of Raleigh, almost to Fuquay-Varina, that had smoke coming from it’s chimneys day and night. Still exist? Big pink neon pig out front. I expect they’re done by now, with the real estate prices and growth in the area.

  90. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 5:58 pm

    Maybe I’ll give Cliff Lee a call and see if he’ll shoot me a Javellina instead of a Deer this time.

    In return I’ll make sure Mrs. Lee has safe passage thru NYS.

    Sounds fair to me.

    ;)

  91. randy l. October 25th, 2013 at 5:58 pm

    “Are Flu shots bad for you ?”

    http://articles.mercola.com/si.....eness.aspx

  92. blake October 25th, 2013 at 5:59 pm

    I never saw the pork palace so Id say it’s not there anymore…..I went to hillsborough BBQ a lot

  93. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 5:59 pm

    Blake-

    Mrs. MTU says they put all kinds of other bad sh*t in them ?

    Like mercury and other fillers.

  94. blake October 25th, 2013 at 6:02 pm

    Id rather have 50-60% protection against the flu than 0% . The immunization isn’t perfect but studies show that even if you get the flu after being vaccinated then the symptoms are likely to be lessened……

  95. blake October 25th, 2013 at 6:04 pm

    There is a small amount of mercury but they make mercury free ones now and honestly you probably get much more mercury from eating a piece of tuna than from the flu shot ….. Same story you hear from that dentist who says those “mercury fillings” will kill you before charging you 1,000 bucks to cut them out.

  96. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 6:06 pm

    Thanks for that Randy.

    I think Mrs. MTU spoke of that lady.

    JAP told me about an all natural anti-viral last year.

    I think it’s called Lomitin, or something like that.

    I keep telling Mrs. MTU that if anything happens to me from the vaccinations she’ll be rich due to the life insurance.

    She should be encouraging me to get them.

    :)

  97. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 6:08 pm

    Blake-

    That is my argument to Mrs. MTU but she still insists she is right.

    Women.

    :( :)

  98. blake October 25th, 2013 at 6:09 pm

    MTU,
    My suggestion is just to tell her she right and go have a cold one

  99. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 6:10 pm

    I would like to hear what our Physicians and Bret our nutritionist have to say about this.

  100. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 6:11 pm

    OK Blake.

    Thanks for the advice.

    :)

    New thread ——->

  101. blake October 25th, 2013 at 6:13 pm

    I tend to side with actual research when it comes to medicine . You can find opinion and theory on virtually anything but there are scientists that heavily research this stuff and I trust what they say.

    There is a reason life expectancy keeps going up…..western medicine …..it’s certainly not because we are eating healthier

  102. tomingeorgia October 25th, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    Go have a flu shot and a cold one, both. Last time I got the flu it devolved into pneumonia and almost iced me. Never missed a flu shot tince


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