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Rivera: “I will tell you that I can’t play no more”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 25, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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The Year of Mariano Rivera continues…

BOSTON (AP) — Former New York Yankees closer Mariano Rivera made a tantalizing — but not at all serious — offer to baseball Commissioner Bud Selig on Thursday: another farewell tour, this time in the NL.

“Boss, listen to this, OK?” Rivera said on Thursday night before Game 2 of the World Series between the Boston Red Sox and St. Louis Cardinals. “Since I did the whole American League and all the time with the family traveling with me, so I decided I’m going to give another shot in the National League. So here it is, guys.”

Having praised Rivera effusively at the ceremony to present him with the Commissioner’s Historic Achievement Award, Selig said he would have no problem if Rivera came back for a 20th season.

World Series Cardinals Red Sox Baseball“We’ll make sure that happens,” Selig said. “That you can be sure of.”

With his family standing by, Rivera was honored on the field before the game. The Boston fans gave him a cheer, and Red Sox designated hitter David Ortiz ran out to the mound to give him a hug.

Rivera finished his career with 652 saves — the most in major league history — including 44 this season, when he was 43 years old. Selig praised Rivera less for his statistical achievements than for the way he carried himself.

“All records we have said are made to be broken, but this is one that I’m very confident will stand the test of time,” Selig said. “He became the face of baseball for this generation. And he did it in a way with so much class and so much dignity and so much honor that it couldn’t help but make me as the commissioner of baseball proud to think that one of our great stars of this generation represented the game so beautifully.”

Rivera said he hasn’t really felt the change of retirement yet because it’s just the offseason. That will come in February, when he doesn’t report to spring training.

“You don’t talk now about retirement anymore, you’re talking about temptation,” he said. “So I’m going to go as far as I can go, to where people don’t play baseball.”

And there are no second thoughts.

“I don’t think it’s hard when you make up your mind,” Rivera said. “I give everything that I have in the tank. So I have nothing left. So if you see me like this, and you think I can play, I will tell you that I can’t play no more, because I have nothing left.”

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146 Responses to “Rivera: “I will tell you that I can’t play no more””

  1. blake October 25th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    another good place in Asheville is called “The Admiral” . it’s been a couple of years since I’ve been there and unless they have gotten a new building it looks like a total dump on the outside…..but inside the food is exceptional…..and the only reason the building sucks is most likely because these are young guys just getting started. They only have like maybe 5 or 6 tables so you have to get reservations but it’s some of the best food out I’ve had in the area.

  2. sevrox October 25th, 2013 at 9:01 am

    Offer Mariano $100,000,000 for 2 years and he’ll come back. Praise Jesus!

  3. blake October 25th, 2013 at 9:03 am

    most players that retire say they don’t really feel it or it doesn’t sink in until the next spring…..because right now it’s really no different than any other year as far as what you’re doing. Usually around January or February when they normally are cranking it up for ST they say it starts sinking in.

  4. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 9:04 am

    Blake-

    Being an honorary Southerner and all I could fit in real easy in Carolina.

    Especially in the Asheville area.

    My kind of place. Friendly people, Beautiful scenery, wide open spaces, great quality of Life.

    Heck. It’s almost as good as where I am.

    ;)

  5. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 9:06 am

    The former Director of scouting for the Cards is now the GM for the Stros.

    ;)

  6. Tar October 25th, 2013 at 9:06 am

    MTU

    Don’t forget Great Beer! :D

  7. blake October 25th, 2013 at 9:07 am

    MTU,
    you’d probably love Asheville….Boone too…..only bad thing about it is the allergy stuff

  8. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 9:07 am

    Walt Jocketty did a great job of training Mozeliak.

    Seamless transition and an upgrade on the Sabre side to boot.

  9. blake October 25th, 2013 at 9:08 am

    “The former Director of scouting for the Cards is now the GM for the Stros.”

    yup…..

  10. blake October 25th, 2013 at 9:08 am

    cooked some ribs last night on the egg……40 degrees and probably 25 mph winds and she held 250 degrees for 5 hours without me having to touch it.

  11. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 9:09 am

    Blake-

    The only thing I’m really allergic to is being confined indoors.

    ;)

    Tar-

    That would definitely be an inducement as well.

    Microbrews have exploded within the US.

    People come here from all over the World to see how we are doing things these days.

    :)

  12. Bret The Hitman October 25th, 2013 at 9:10 am

    Is the egg worth it, Blake? Thing’s badass.

  13. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 9:11 am

    I still want some brisket.

    Texas-style.

    Franklins. That’s what I’m talkin’ about.

    When I hit lotto I’m going just for that.

    :)

  14. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 9:13 am

    But my favorite food in all the World is made by the Cajuns.

  15. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 9:14 am

    You feeling me KPB ?

    You bayou boy you.

    :)

  16. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 9:15 am

    I want ribs… and a burger with a fried egg on it… thanks guys, you’re really making this yogurt container appetizing.

  17. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 9:16 am

    Banuelos, J-Ram, DePaula, Hensley, Mitchell.

    All top quality arms.

    We had Garcia, and Vizcaino but they’re arms did not hold up all that well.

    Young arms are fragile.

    Takes some good training and luck to bring them to fruition.

    Easier when you pick a more developed College arm.

  18. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 9:18 am

    Luckily I get wild caught smoked Alaska salmon from the Kenai from my hiking buddy.

    So there’s that.

    :)

  19. pat October 25th, 2013 at 9:18 am

    AnthonyDiComo
    Interesting about Beltran and Toradol (http://atmlb.com/HiPuiO ). Remember that’s what Dickey credited for making it through the 2011 season.

  20. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 9:19 am

    But I could use a good source of Elk steak.

    Most delicious thing this side of Heaven.

    A nicely marinated Elk steak. Yum.

    Maybe I can find someone up North.

    :)

  21. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 9:22 am

    And what about our right handed relievers ?

    I’d say we turn some pretty good ones.

    Like an assembly line actually.

  22. blake October 25th, 2013 at 9:22 am

    “Is the egg worth it, Blake? Thing’s badass.”

    it is to me…..I cook on it 3 or 4 times a week at least to be honest. They are expensive but the thing should last forever….there isn’t anything to tear up on it really. It’s just ceramic.

  23. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 9:23 am

    MTU – Those arms are why blake is trying to trade Nova for Castro lol!!

    The Toradol thing is interesting… didn’t the trainer for the Sox say he injected Schilling with that stuff every day? I mean….. that is insane.

    And now every time I hear about it I think of Jason Taylor. That was a story I’ll never forget.

  24. blake October 25th, 2013 at 9:23 am

    MTU,

    just take the jet on down to Austin……if you leave tonight you can be in line tomorrow morning by 9AM

  25. blake October 25th, 2013 at 9:25 am

    The NFL uses Toradol all the time…..stuff will make something stop hurting for sure. With Beltran’s injury I think it’s ok because I doubt he’s going to hurt it further by playing.

  26. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 9:26 am

    blake – When I buy clothes I don’t focus on the overall cost, I calculate how many times I’ll wear it in a year and how much it will cost me per wear lol. Once in high school my parents sent me to go school shopping with $150.. I had another $100 saved.. I came home with one item: a brown leather jacket. My parents were not amused but I insisted it was an investment. Well, almost ten years later and I still get compliments on that jacket. Well worth the money!! In fact, when I was in South Africa I had people trying to barter with me for it!

  27. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 9:26 am

    Blake-

    Mac will help me out one of these days and send me a care package.

    :)

  28. blake October 25th, 2013 at 9:28 am

    The reason I’d trade Nova for Castro is that 1) pitching is easier to find than a SS….unless it’s a true ace type like Kershaw but I don’t think Nova is that. 2) you could argue it would be selling high on Nova……now it might now wind up that way but I’m still not sold on what Nova really is. Is he what we saw in 2013? Is he what we saw in 2012? or is he somewhere in between…….we just don’t know yet.

    I’d take the risk for a shot at solved either SS or 3B longterm…..

  29. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 9:28 am

    Shame-

    When you were in SA I hope you at least went to Kruger NP ?

    ;)

  30. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 9:29 am

    It just makes you wonder how often it’s used in MLB. It might be more common practice than we’re aware of. Which of course doesn’t really matter much – until you put it in the context of their anti-drug policy lol.

  31. blake October 25th, 2013 at 9:30 am

    Shame,

    Agreed….it’s wise to spend money on things that hold value or that you’ll get a lot of use out of. The green egg costed 800 bucks but if I’m still using it in 20 years I’d call that a bargain……I use it all the time…..I even use it as an oven sometimes when our inside oven is full.

  32. blake October 25th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    MTU,
    if you’re you ask nicely then you might can get Mac to hold you a spot in line.

  33. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    MTU – I sadly did not, that’s further north than the area I was in… big place, South Africa. I did get to go on some safaris though… those hyenas are really no joke. Something about hearing them laugh in person as opposed to on tv was jarring.

  34. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    Blake-

    I see your argument w respect to Ivan.

    The whole thing revolves around what you say. On your evaluation of him going forward.

    If he collapses back into inconsistency then your POV is spot on.

    If he keeps pitching the way he did in the 2nd half you’re dead wrong.

    History is on your side.

    I’m going w a hunch.

    That’s why I’ll never make it as Sabre guy.

    And anyway I’m usually wrong.

    ;)

  35. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 9:33 am

    blake – We only have your standard grill but we started making our Thanksgiving turkey on it because one year we faced an issue of oven logistics. We couldn’t stop after that it came out so good. I know the egg is mostly used for slow cooking which isn’t often associated with poultry, but you might want to start checking out some ways to make a turkey in there.

  36. blake October 25th, 2013 at 9:34 am

    MTU,
    You could make a counter argument that trading Nova is counter productive and I understand that side……I just really think they need to solve te left side of their infield going forward and it’s not an easy thing to do

  37. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 9:35 am

    Shame-

    They may sound like they are laughing playfully but they can hold their own against some pretty tough critters.

    Think of them like a meaner and tougher wolf pack.

    They can easily break bone with their jaw strength.

    And weirdest of all they are hermaphrodites.

    Maybe that’s why their laughing. Got all the bases covered.

    ;)

  38. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 9:36 am

    Nova vs. Castro is an upside and need argument… you could still make the case that we are deeper in pitching in our system than anything else.

  39. austinmac October 25th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    MTU,

    I had promised Nick BBQ sauce if they go over $189. We’ve lost him, but I will substitute you in.

  40. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    Blake-

    If they want a good stopgap Peralta is your Man.

    Just don’t think they’ll do the steroid controversy thing though.

    Otherwise go for it w Castro. But find a way to leave Nova out.

  41. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 9:38 am

    In no way is Drew worth anywhere near 10 Mil IMO.

    Slick fielder wit a weak bat.

  42. pat October 25th, 2013 at 9:38 am

    jc_bradbury
    How is using Toradol to combat short-run pain different than using amphetamines to combat fatigue?

  43. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 9:38 am

    Some of it also involves if you think the 2014 team is a contender to begin with.

  44. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 9:39 am

    Mac-

    Perhaps we can barter.

    :)

  45. blake October 25th, 2013 at 9:40 am

    “I know the egg is mostly used for slow cooking which isn’t often associated with poultry, but you might want to start checking out some ways to make a turkey in there.”

    oh you can do any temp you want on it…..I’ve seared steaks at over 800 degrees on it before. I’ve got a smoke turkey recipe I’m gonna try out here soon so I’ll know if I want to do it for Turkey day or not ;)

  46. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    Castro had stud potential.

    That is for sure.

    I’ve always liked many aspects of his game.

    Particularly Le bat.

    ;)

  47. blake October 25th, 2013 at 9:42 am

    “How is using Toradol to combat short-run pain different than using amphetamines to combat fatigue?”

    it’s a slippery slope…..I do think that most folks using amphetamines are doing so chronically and not just until an injury heals though. Plus the Toradol is being administered by a doctor……whereas the Amphetamines are not.

  48. blake October 25th, 2013 at 9:43 am

    I’d rather have Peralta than Drew yes…..better hitter.

  49. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 9:43 am

    Fried Turkey is better.

    Especially with Cajun spices injected beforehand.

    Always dream big when you dream.

    :)

  50. blake October 25th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    I love fried turkey…..I have my turkey fryer ready to go too. I might just make both :)

  51. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    Correction Blake.

    “[Much] better hitter.”

    No need to thank me.

    ;)

  52. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 9:45 am

    Blake-

    I think you are just trying to torment me.

    :(

  53. pat October 25th, 2013 at 9:46 am

    Amphetamines could just as easily be administered by a doctor if MLB allowed them.

  54. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    I once had to pass a kidney stone.

    When I was in the emergency room they shot up with something wonderful.

    I swear you could have ripped my arm right out it’s socket and I would not have even blinked.

    Where do I get some more of that ?

    :)

  55. pat October 25th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    NYDNSports
    Baseball Insider: How many MLB pitchers cheat; Red Sox and Lester can’t explain why rosin was green: http://nydn.us/167skEG

  56. Tar October 25th, 2013 at 9:50 am

    I’d rather have Peralta than Drew yes…..better hitter.”

    Sorry to jump in here…. but are you guys talking about for 3rd base?

    Last I checked the Yankees had a SS and a back-up SS.

  57. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 9:51 am

    In Lester’s case it’s probably because he blew his nose into his glove.

    ;)

  58. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 9:53 am

    Tar-

    For discussion purposes only.

    Speaking in hypotheticals.

    Castro would be nice to have for the future.

    Kid has stud potential.

  59. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 9:53 am

    Time for another cup of Java.

  60. blake October 25th, 2013 at 9:53 am

    “Amphetamines could just as easily be administered by a doctor if MLB allowed them.”

    yes but I don’t think administering them before every game because you’re tired is quite the same thing as giving toradol for an actual injury.

  61. 86w183 October 25th, 2013 at 9:54 am

    Amphetamines are strictly stimulants. You would not use them in any injury rehab or recovery context. Doctors do prescribe them, but most players were using to get a pick me up after cross country travel and/or day games after night games.

    To much use would obviously be counter productive. But using once a week or every other week could be the difference in hitting .270 or so versus .300.

  62. Tar October 25th, 2013 at 9:54 am

    Oh ok MTU I get it, sorry to interrupt and carry on.

  63. blake October 25th, 2013 at 9:54 am

    rumor is that the substance on Lester’s glove was a mixture of Papi’s steroid powder and Jack Daniels. Good grip

  64. blake October 25th, 2013 at 9:55 am

    “Sorry to jump in here…. but are you guys talking about for 3rd base?

    Last I checked the Yankees had a SS and a back-up SS.”

    both guys can play 3B yes…..but the Yankees really have zero SS’s. We have no idea if Jeter can play there and Nunez is terrible.

  65. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 9:56 am

    pat October 25th, 2013 at 9:46 am

    Amphetamines could just as easily be administered by a doctor if MLB allowed them.

    ——————-

    They do. Like 8% of players say they have ADD or ADHD.

  66. 86w183 October 25th, 2013 at 9:56 am

    Why do you think a hundred plus MLB players are no being grated for ADD??? They get to use Ritalin!!

    Ritalin is a banned stimulant without a medical waiver.

  67. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 9:58 am

    blake October 25th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    I love fried turkey…..I have my turkey fryer ready to go too. I might just make both :)

    —————

    Fry a breast, cook a turkey!

    I’ve already started bothering my family about Thanksgiving. I feel like we need a ‘test’ dinner.

  68. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 9:59 am

    blake October 25th, 2013 at 9:54 am

    rumor is that the substance on Lester’s glove was a mixture of Papi’s steroid powder and Jack Daniels. Good grip

    ——————–

    I like how he said he didn’t know what it was, maybe a booger, and the line of questioning ended there lol.

  69. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    Pat M. is going to work out with his Cubs scouting buddy today.

    Hopefully we’ll get some more whispers on Castro.

    He is a valuable resource isn’t he ?

    :)

  70. 86w183 October 25th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    I’ll be a volunteer taste tester as any test meals being prepared!!!

  71. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 10:01 am

    There was a time when MLB players were claiming ADD/ADHD at a higher rate than national averages but I’m not sure that’s the case anymore. Could be a few reasons for that, though.

  72. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 10:02 am

    86-

    I am way better at the consuming than the cooking.

    I rely on donations from kind-hearted chefs.

    :)

  73. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 10:02 am

    both guys can play 3B yes…..but the Yankees really have zero SS’s. We have no idea if Jeter can play there and Nunez is terrible.

    ————————

    If you can get a Castro like player, I think you use him wherever he’s needed whether it be at SS or 3B. I really don’t think they move Jeter off SS this year, so maybe Castro has to deal at 3B for a while, but he should be able to handle the position.

  74. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 10:04 am

    Has anyone seen YT lately ?

  75. blake October 25th, 2013 at 10:05 am

    “I’ve already started bothering my family about Thanksgiving. I feel like we need a ‘test’ dinner.”

    I like your thinking.

  76. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 10:05 am

    Chip, Bret, and YT need to get after it w respect to some potential trades.

    We need action.

    :)

  77. 86w183 October 25th, 2013 at 10:05 am

    At this moment in time Nova is the Yanks # 2 starter so dealing him makes no sense to me.

    If they were to sign Kuroda and Tanaka I might feel differently, but I still don’t think the Yankees will invest heavily at SS until/unless Jeter tells them he can’t get back to where he was in 2012.

    Signing Ryan or Peralta is far more likely.

  78. blake October 25th, 2013 at 10:06 am

    If the Yankees aren’t considering moving Jeter off SS then they are thinking the way they should be to make this budget stuff work……and that’s coming from somebody who’s favorite player of all time is Derek Jeter.

  79. blake October 25th, 2013 at 10:06 am

    aren’t thinking

  80. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 10:07 am

    Our pitching staff and pen might have a decidedly Asian flavor next year.

    ;)

  81. DONNYBROOK October 25th, 2013 at 10:08 am

    The dummies at MLB need to kill 1 of the off days during every Playoff 7 game series. An off day after Game 2, and then 5 straight games if needed should be the schedule they follow. The World Series is all ready flatter than a pancake, and it and the ratings are going to go downhill from there. I wouldn’t be surprised if that Discovery Channel piece about the guy with the 139 lb scrotum got better ratings than the World Series. His impending surgery has drama, while the MLB Playoffs have been and continue to be DOA.

  82. blake October 25th, 2013 at 10:08 am

    “At this moment in time Nova is the Yanks # 2 starter so dealing him makes no sense to me.”

    as a stand alone move no…..but it depends on what else they do. Like you say if they have Kuroda and Tanaka in the fold then trading Nova becomes easier……

    I agree though that just signing Peralta or somebody is easier and more doable……but what are those guys stop gapping to? If you sign Peralta for a year then we are right back in this spot next year because there isn’t a SS in sight in the Yankee organization

  83. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 10:08 am

    Blake-

    Yankees tend to be reactive rather than proactive.

    Maybe that will change. Maybe.

  84. austinmac October 25th, 2013 at 10:09 am

    MTU,

    Of course, I have to get off my rear end and actually go to Franklin’s. you all are making me hungry.

    A photo for sauce sounds good to me.

  85. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 10:10 am

    Duh-

    Now that was funny.

    139 lb. scrotum ?

    Is that a world’s record ?

    LMAO. Good one.

    :)

  86. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 10:12 am

    blake October 25th, 2013 at 10:08 am

    “At this moment in time Nova is the Yanks # 2 starter so dealing him makes no sense to me.”

    as a stand alone move no…..but it depends on what else they do.

    ——————

    It also depends on whether you think the 2014 will be competitive and if you think the arms in the system have a higher ceiling than Nova.

    The problem with SS is they don’t even have bodies there… I dunno if O’Brien can be the answer down the line at 3B but it seems like we’re really thin on that side of the field.

  87. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 10:12 am

    Mac-

    Just let me know.

    :)

  88. pat October 25th, 2013 at 10:13 am

    yes but I don’t think administering them before every game because you’re tired is quite the same thing as giving toradol for an actual injury.

    Both are performance enabling. One to combat pain and the other to combat fatigue. Not so different.

  89. blake October 25th, 2013 at 10:14 am

    I’d rather not trade Nova….but they don’t have a lot else to trade. He’s by far their best chip right now I’d say

  90. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 10:15 am

    Jagielo, O’Brien, Adams, Musty, Nunez, etc.

    Who knows.

    Culver can pick ‘em and his bat seems to be improving.

  91. DONNYBROOK October 25th, 2013 at 10:16 am

    Robertson is another chip of value.

  92. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 10:16 am

    Nova is an excellent chip but I want to keep SuperNova.

    :)

  93. blake October 25th, 2013 at 10:16 am

    “Both are performance enabling. One to combat pain and the other to combat fatigue. Not so different.”

    I dont’ think they are viewed the same though……also ampetamine use is more of a healthy risk in short terms than Toradol is. Toradol is pretty safe unless you start using it chronically. Amphetamines have cause heart problems in healthy people in short term use.

  94. 86w183 October 25th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    The Yanks are more reactive because they locked themselves into so many expensive long term contracts. They need a SS but they have to pay Jeter in 2014. They need a 3B, but A-Rod is signed for FOUR more years.

    Those guys and financial commitments are not going to disappear. Add in Tex and that’s three positions where pursuing long term solutions just isn’t realistic.

    If they are going for any long term solutions this off season it’s likely to be 2B or C.

    Off to The Bronx to tour the Stadium…. Hope it’s fun

    Have A Day. !!!

  95. blake October 25th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    Robertson is probably their 2nd most valuable chip yes…..I’d trade him too for the right player

  96. austinmac October 25th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    Chad’s infield review has shown they. Have to add to that area. I would love Castro, but it would shock me if they added a real SS until Jeter waves the white flag. And that won’t happen this off season.

  97. tomingeorgia October 25th, 2013 at 10:19 am

    Late to the Thanksgiving discussion. I’ve deep-fried turkeys without burning anything down. Just make sure the bird is at room temperature first! Two problems: my fryer only holds a 12-lb bird (too small most years), and I miss the tantalizing aroma of a turkey slow-roasting. I have cooked a 24 pounder on a Weber at 200 degrees, which takes most of the day, but the results are outstanding.

  98. blake October 25th, 2013 at 10:19 am

    Wave has been saying this for awhile but the Yankees really need to get away from all the no trade clauses…..they are a major pain in the butt and greatly impact flexibility. Deals like Arod and Tex are basically no trade clauses themselves but it’s just one more hurdle to deal with if you wanted to move a player.

  99. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 10:19 am

    GGBG has value too but I’m not trading him either.

    I’d trade Phelps or Warren. Marshall.

    Caliborne or Kelley.

    One of Banuelos or J-ram.

    One of Heathcott, Williams, Austin, or Flores.

    And one of JR, Romine, or Sanchez.

    I’ve advocated trading all along as a way forward.

    Just has to be done intelligently.

  100. DONNYBROOK October 25th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    Remember Jeet has the option regarding 2014. The Yanks have nothing to say about it.

  101. blake October 25th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    I have an electric fryer that’ll hold a 20 lb turkey…..I like it because it’s blow up proof…..makes a good turkey but the oil doesn’t get hot enough in the winter usually to give you that nice crisp skin that a propane cooker will.

  102. pat October 25th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    Cano is a finalist for AL gold glove

  103. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 10:23 am

    Cano is going to get 200 mil or more and it likely won’t be from the Yankees.

  104. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    Sounds like from the rumor mill that the Yankees might be pretty serious about McCann.

    I’d rather go w AJ P. for a yr. or so and see how JR or Sanchez pan out.

  105. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 10:25 am

    MTU – Most of the guys you’d be willing to trade just wouldn’t be worth a lot, if anything at all.

    Gardner, Nova and Robertson probably are the best pieces we can offer. I’d think Sanchez might be the next best asset, but if you move him you’re going to have to include a lot more since he’s farther off.

  106. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 10:26 am

    Sorry then Shame.

    Those are the ones I see as moveable.

    I’m keeping the others.

    :(

  107. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 10:28 am

    I would love Castro, but it would shock me if they added a real SS until Jeter waves the white flag. And that won’t happen this off season.

    ———————-

    mac – To me, this argument doesn’t hold (and I know it’s not your argument) because there’s still room at 3B. Waiting for Jeter to retire before even looking for left INF help makes no sense at all to me.

  108. blake October 25th, 2013 at 10:28 am

    McCann is a huge upgrade for them at catcher…..literally probably 4 or 5 wins if he stayed healthy.

    My thing with him though is that if it doesn’t come with a lot of other moves then it’s pointless and counterproductive for them to do…….McCann alone isn’t putting this team over the hump….they need multiple upgrades to compete for a title so if they didn’t do more than just him then losing that first round pick is a problem

  109. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 10:28 am

    If I keep Ryan Nunez is also expendable.

    Same with Adams or Almonte.

    They are potential trade pieces.

  110. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    Blake-

    I agree.

    And unless they bust 189 they aren’ty going to be able to do much more than McCann and Tanaka.

    I would do it my way in that instance.

    Guys like AJ P and Peralta as 1 or 2 yr. stopgaps while the Farm guys ripen.

    .;)

  111. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    MTU – I get it but Phelps and Warren aren’t giving you anything.. neither is in a good position to give any team 200 innings. And all of the minor league guys had issues this year and aren’t big league ready or have injury problems.

    I think the only way to get value is to move pieces off the big league roster.

  112. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Shame-

    Phelps can handle the workload as a #5.

    But I see where you are coming from.

    Trouble is you don’t want to fill a hole by making another one.

    ;)

  113. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 10:34 am

    And until 2015 when the money spigot can open.

    ;)

  114. blake October 25th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    to me if you sign McCann then you also need to bring back Cano, Kuroda, and Granderson…..sign Tanaka, either Beltran or Choo, and then Peralta or Drew to even make it worthwhile. You need to really build a true title contending team on paper for 2014 to warrant losing that draft pick…….no window dressing…..build a true contender or stay the course and use that pick to try and rebuild a bit.

  115. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    I do not want to lose that draft pick.

    In fact I’m hoping we add a couple more early round guys.

    I’d like to see them go after more college types who are polished and closer to being ready for the bigs.

    A good college SS would be great.

  116. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    Blake-

    That is budget buster city.

    It would take that 300 mil to do what you are asking.

    Keep dreaming big though.

    :)

  117. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Mop walk time.

    I’ll be back.

  118. J. Alfred Prufrock October 25th, 2013 at 10:43 am

    MTU October 25th, 2013 at 10:15 am

    Jagielo, O’Brien, Adams, Musty, Nunez, etc.

    Who knows.

    Culver can pick ‘em and his bat seems to be improving.
    ////

    Miguel Andujar looks like the most exciting 3B prospect in the Yankee organization: hit tool/power, arm, decent defender.

    As to Culver, agree, he can pick it and has a pretty good arm and decent range. He can play SS, no question about it; that was evident when he was in short season. He and Angelo Gumbs were a very smooth DP unit that day I saw them together in Brooklyn, and that’s saying something, if you’ve ever seen short season infielders try to make routine plays look routine.

    Culver made a play in the hole, and another one where he ranged across far to his right and was practically behind 3B. The throw didn’t get the speedy runner and was bounced, but his momentum was pulling him into left field and he was turned around, trying to make the play across his body. That was impressive.

    When I saw Cito in Lakewood (for DePaula debut), he had already dropped batting from the left side, and even though they faced a BP pitcher that night, he looked balanced and short to the ball in his ABs; homered to left and hit the ball over 2B, as I recall, but his swing was good.

    The guy who looked particularly awful was Bichette; even fell down after taking a huge hack.

    Cito has made progress since Charleston in Tampa. We’ll know a lot more about where he’s going after he spends some time in AA.

  119. Bret The Hitman October 25th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    I think they really like Nova.

    The Yankees are probably 2 years away from trading surplus pitching depth for a bat. They tend to keep major league starters and trade away the minor league hurlers.

    I still think they need to add 2 legit starters, let alone subtract one.

    And I’d like to add Jimenez and either Tanaka or Kuroda. I’d love to get an extra pick for Kuroda though and that would cancel out the one it will take to get Jimenez. Tanaka won’t cost a pick.

    I really want CC – Nova – Jimenez – Tanaka – Pineda.

    That’s a young, devastating rotation. Give it two years and you can start flipping some of them or trading prospects when ready and valued higher: Banuelos, J-Ram, Depaula.

  120. randy l. October 25th, 2013 at 10:49 am

    “Phelps can handle the workload as a #5.”

    mtu-

    you’re meaning innings i assume because phelps has never thrown many in a season, but i also think he can handle the 5 spot with a 5+ era as long as it doesn’t go above 5.50.

    when i used to argue for livan i used to say he was an amazingly consistent bad pitcher. what i meant by that is most pitchers either go really bad like an 8 era or they stay around the league average area. it’s actually hard to find a guy who can limit the runs to 4 runs consistently in 6 innings. that’d be a 6 era.

    big difference between 3 runs in 6 innings and 4 runs in 6 innings.
    it takes a bulldog type mentality not to cave in and phelps seems to have it. i just don’t think he’s that good to start with. but as the five guy. yeah he could do that and be cheap.

  121. randy l. October 25th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    also if a team has a good offense , a #5 guy with a 5.50 era can win more than he loses as long as the bullpen is really good.

  122. Duh Innings II October 25th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    Cano has zero leverage over the Yanks.

    Kansas City, Minnesota, Cleveland, Tampa Bay, Baltimore, Toronto, Oakland, Seattle, and Houston can’t afford him.

    Detroit could just re-sign Infante and I doubt they forgo trying to re-sign Scherzer for signing Cano. They can’t afford to sign Cano AND re-sign Scherzer.

    Chicago might be able to afford him but I doubt Cano would sign with a team that just lost 99 games.

    Boston has Pedroia, Texas has Kinsler, and the Angels aren’t taking another nine-figure risk after busts Pujols and Hamilton.

    This means all Cano has is the National League. If he signs with an N.L. team, the Yanks face him only in a pair of three-game interleague series years apart.

  123. blake October 25th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    comes back to picking a lane.

    Lane 1: going for it in 2014……spending money to build a real contending team that can compete for the divsion and then a WS.

    Lane 2: making moves to set up for a more efficient teeth that’ll satisfy Hal’s payroll wants. This mean not spending on long term deals and it means keeping first round picks.

    Either option would be ok if done right……what won’t work is doing either half way.

  124. blake October 25th, 2013 at 10:57 am

    There will be plenty of teams that chase Cano IMO….the Yankees need to hold their ground.

  125. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 10:59 am

    Trouble is you don’t want to fill a hole by making another one.

    ——————-

    Unless they buy ALL the players, there’s no way around doing that. It sucks that they’ve put themselves in this position, but we basically need players at every position (OF, INF, rotation).

  126. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 11:00 am

    Moving Nova is not an ideal for any of us, btw. I really like the kid, just like I really like Robertson and Gardner. But if this team isn’t looking like it’s going to be competitive for 2014, I think you move every piece you can that has value and focus on 2015 and beyond. Another year of patching things together will be painful.

  127. Ys Guy October 25th, 2013 at 11:01 am

    hey folks! did anyone else get spam email from pabe’s (hacked) account?

  128. Russell Munson October 25th, 2013 at 11:05 am

    The thing is, Robertson and Gardner are both free agents after 2014. Nova is under team control for at least three more years. That makes Nova more valuable.

  129. Tackelberry October 25th, 2013 at 11:14 am

    I agree about keeping the 18th draft pick. One guy who could be a good under the radar signing this year. David Murphy. Good outfielder, speed, and has a good left handed swing that would play well in YS.

  130. austinmac October 25th, 2013 at 11:15 am

    Shame,

    No doubt they need left side help, but I doubt they will add a guy who has exclusively been a SS. It would make no sense to put a young SS at third. I don’t think Jeter would move voluntarily and they won’t force him. That’s my expectation.

  131. tucker October 25th, 2013 at 11:26 am

    After watching Rosenthal last night, I’m just envious (from a Yanks perspective). Struck out the side on 11 pitches, 9 well-placed strikes. Sox didn’t have a chance.

  132. Shame Spencer October 25th, 2013 at 11:26 am

    austinmac October 25th, 2013 at 11:15 am

    Shame,

    No doubt they need left side help, but I doubt they will add a guy who has exclusively been a SS. It would make no sense to put a young SS at third. I don’t think Jeter would move voluntarily and they won’t force him. That’s my expectation.

    ————–

    I understand the doubt and I don’t think they’ll fix anything either, but there’s no reason a young SS can’t play 3B. Hell, they’re still moving Austin all over the field, so I don’t see why that should be the biggest hurdle here.

    The biggest hurdle is finding an available SS and a team willing to move him for whatever we can offer.

  133. BIG AL October 25th, 2013 at 11:27 am

    Really nice to see everything so pleasant on the blog this morning.

    IMO, I think the Yankees need to find a SS now, even if Jeter can come back for one more season, because if they wait until they have no choice, the cost most likely will be far higher than if they make a move this off season.

  134. BIG AL October 25th, 2013 at 11:29 am

    blake -

    What is this egg you’re talking about?

  135. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 11:30 am

    Randy-

    I think people consistently underestimate Phelps.

    His stuff isn’t as pedestrian as people seem to think because it moves and he generally commands it well.

    As you point out the smarts and the bulldog are also in evidence.

    He’s like Rodney Dangerfield in my book.

    He’s had 100 plus innings in the minors and he is old enough that I don’t think an arm injury is in the cards.

  136. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    JAP-

    Thanks for your take on Culver.

    :)

  137. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 11:35 am

    And I think Warren and Marshall can be serviceable ML pitchers if handled properly.

    Trouble we have, as well as many others, is finding the high end guys.

    That’s one of the reasons I want to keep Nova.

  138. Doreen October 25th, 2013 at 11:38 am

    Phelps was on the DL this year, MTU.

  139. BIG AL October 25th, 2013 at 11:38 am

    I agree with those saying we keep Nova, IMO he has huge upside.

  140. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 11:43 am

    Doreen-

    So are a lot of guys.

    That doesn’t mean they are headed for rotator or TJS.

  141. J. Alfred Prufrock October 25th, 2013 at 11:45 am

    Big Al,

    Good morning!

    Is Nova going somewhere?

    Oh, that’s right: to the front of the rotation! :D

  142. J. Alfred Prufrock October 25th, 2013 at 11:47 am

    Tackelberry – I agree David Murphy is a nice fit for NYS.

    Remember who the Red Sox got for him in that deal? Gagne. Always good for an LOL.

  143. BIG AL October 25th, 2013 at 11:50 am

    JAP -

    Good morning.

    Yes, you might be right, if he keeps on track, and continues improving as he has, he looks to be a #2, and who knows if he can be a #1, but I’d be happy to see him near the top of the rotation.

    Thanks for that MiLB update. When I was living in PA I had season tickets to the SWB Yankees, and I sure do miss seeing the up and coming players.

  144. mick October 25th, 2013 at 11:58 am

    It would make no sense to put a young SS at third.
    ===================
    Tell that to the Orioles…

  145. MTU October 25th, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    New one —->

  146. blake October 25th, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    “What is this egg you’re talking about?”

    Big Green Egg. It’s a ceramic cooker/smoker/grill/oven.


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