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The new Yankees 40-man roster

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 01, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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Thirteen Yankees became free agents yesterday. At some point in the next few days, six other Yankees will be taken off the 60-day disabled list. That leaves the Yankees entering the offseason with 33 players on their 40-man roster. That leaves seven open spots.

With those seven open spots, the Yankees need to find a second baseman, a designated hitter, probably one outfielder, maybe another infielder, at least one starting pitcher, and presumably a couple of relievers.  The Yankees also have to protect a handful of legitimate Rule 5-eligible prospects including big names like Slade Heathcott and Gary Sanchez and promising pitchers like Shane Greene, Bryan Mitchell, Tommy Kahnle and Chase Whitley.

In other words, seven open spots probably won’t be enough.

Trades, non-tenders and DFA decisions could open more spots in the next few weeks and months. For now, though, here’s the state of the Yankees 40-man roster as we enter the post-playoffs offseason.

Ivan NovaROTATION CANDIDATES (6)
David Huff, Ivan Nova, Vidal Nuno, David Phelps, Michael Pineda, CC Sabathia, Adam Warren
Currently in place: These are the most advanced starting pitchers on the roster, and unless someone really shines in spring training — I guess Manny Banuelos could force his way into this mix — these are the only current 40-man pitchers who seem like reasonable candidates to earn starting jobs out of spring training. Certainly Sabathia and Nova seem like rotation locks at this point.
Worth adding: None of the Rule 5 guys is likely to enter this mix right away, but a new deal with Hiroki Kuroda and/or a significant signing like Masahiro Tanaka seem to be perfectly reasonable possibilities this offseason. Hard to imagine the Yankees won’t add some sort of starting pitcher between now and spring training.
Potential subtractions: Although he pitched well down the stretch and could play multiple roles next season, Huff stands out as a non-tender or DFA candidate. That’s especially true if the Yankees add a starter or two.

Chris Stewart, Mike TroutBULLPEN ARMS (6)
Dellin Betances, Cesar Cabral, Preston Claiborne, Matt Daley, Shawn Kelley, Dave Robertson
Currently in place: Based on this list, Kelley looks like a lock for the Opening Day roster. The current 40-man relievers are basically Robertson, Kelley, a few long relief candidates, and some young with a lot to prove. Betances is out of options and pitched extremely well out of the Triple-A bullpen this year, so he’s a strong candidate (at least for now). Same for Cabral because he’s a lefty.
Worth adding: Whitley has pitched well in Triple-A for the past two years, so he’s not only a 40-man candidate, but it’s not out of the question that he could do enough in spring training to win a spot on the 25-man roster. At the very least he’s a very strong 40-man candidate. Free agent deals with a veteran lefty and experienced closer/setup man would also make sense.
Potential subtractions: Daley kind of fits with Huff in that he did nothing wrong last year, but could very easily — almost certainly, even — become crowded out because of other needs. Losing anyone else from this group of six would be a real surprise unless it happened in a trade.

Brett MarshallMINOR LEAGUE PITCHERS (4)
Manny Banuelos, Brett Marshall, Jose Ramirez, Nik Turley
Currently in place: Marshall has pitched a full season in Triple-A, Ramirez was terrific in big league camp last year, Turley is coming off strong numbers in Double-A and Banuelos is still one of the high-potential pitchers in the Yankees system. Even so, it’s doubtful any of these four can pitch his way onto the big league roster this spring. They’re basically on the 40-man for the potential of future impact.
Worth adding: There are actually a lot of minor league pitchers who deserve serious consideration for Rule 5 protection. Greene put himself firmly in that mix with his best professional season to date. Kahnle is coming off good strikeout totals out of the Double-A bullpen. Mitchell is a high-end talent, but without high-level experience. Danny Burawa, Caleb Cotham, Zach Nuding and Fred Lewis are a few of the other names who deserve at least some consideration for Rule 5 protection.
Potential subtractions: Obviously teams don’t like to DFA young talent, but Marshall’s poor season in Triple-A could leave him on the bubble, especially if it comes down to him or another Rule 5 eligible pitcher for a single roster spot. I happen to really like Marshall — good sinker, seems to really have a good head on his shoulders — but the numbers are what they are. I’m sure the Yankees want to hold onto him, and he might not clear waivers.

Austin Romine, Terry Collins, John BuckCATCHERS (4)
Francisco Cervelli, J.R. Murphy, Austin Romine, Chris Stewart
Currently in place: There are already four spots filled by catchers, and not one of them is a clear favorite to be the big league starter on Opening Day. If the Yankees don’t sign a free agent, all four of these could report to camp with a reasonable hope of making the 25-man roster next spring.
Worth adding: Mark Newman clarified last month that Sanchez is Rule 5 eligible, which means that’s an automatic 40-man addition. Sanchez is arguably the top position prospect in the system, so he’ll get a 40-man spot.
Potential subtractions: Romine and Murphy have shown enough promise that they’re likely safe barring a trade. The more curious decisions involve Cervelli and Stewart, each of whom is arbitration eligible and could be non-tendered, especially if the Yankees go after a more proven alternative. It seems possible, though unlikely, that that Yankees could get rid of Cervelli because of the Biogenesis situation.

Derek JeterINFIELDERS (7)
David Adams, Derek Jeter, Corban Joseph, Jayson Nix, Eduardo Nunez, Alex Rodriguez, Mark Teixeira
Currently in place: This is assuming Jeter exercises his contract option to return next season. What you’ll notice is that there’s not a single current infielder who doesn’t come with significant questions. Most notably: Is Jeter still a shortstop? Is Rodriguez going to be eligible? How did wrist surgery impact Teixeira’s productivity?
Worth adding: There are no Rule 5 risks who stand out, instead the infield additions to the 40-man center on immediate Major League needs. For starters, who’s playing second base? If Robinson Cano is re-signed, he takes a 40-man spot and fills the team’s most glaring hole. If not Cano, that likely means either adding someone else or shifting someone like Nunez (or Jeter?) to second base, opening another roster need. Another shortstop might not be the worst idea either. And maybe a third baseman.
Potential subtractions: Nix has done a nice job as a utility man for two years now, but he might also be replaceable enough that the Yankees non-tender him rather than giving him an arbitration raise. Joseph had shoulder surgery last year, so he’s also a strong DFA candidate should the Yankees need to open a roster spot, and I guess even Adams could go if the Yankees add a bunch of infielders. Then, of course, there’s Rodriguez who wouldn’t take up a 40-man spot if his suspension is upheld.

Alfonso SorianoOUTFIELDERS (6)
Zoilo Almonte, Ramon Flores, Brett Gardner, Alfonso Soriano, Ichiro Suzuki, Vernon Wells
Currently in place: The Yankees projected center fielder and left fielder are already on the roster, as are several options for right field. At the very least, right now Ichiro and Wells look like bench or platoon players likely to break camp with the team in some capacity. Almonte could also play his way into some sort of role.
Worth adding: Heathcott will be protected from the Rule 5. That much is a no-brainer. It also seems likely the Yankees will extend a qualifying offer to Curtis Granderson, and if he accepts, that could complete their outfield shopping unless they find a cheap outfielder who profiles as an option at designated hitter. If Granderson doesn’t sign, a right field upgrade seems entirely possible.
Possible subtractions: Depending on who’s added this offseason, there’s some chance the Yankees could cut their losses with either Ichiro or Wells (but that seems like a fairly extreme situation, only likely if there are significant signings or trade acquisitions). Flores is a nice young player, but lack of power leaves him fairly limited as a corner outfielder, and that could leave him vulnerable to a DFA if/when the roster gets tight.

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154 Responses to “The new Yankees 40-man roster”

  1. blake November 1st, 2013 at 9:07 am

    “Be careful with using stats properly”

    yea but his 148 career OPS+ takes park factor into account and thats still really good ……if he wasn’t a DH and PED user.

  2. blake November 1st, 2013 at 9:08 am

    MLB Trade Rumors ?@mlbtraderumors 24m
    Ubaldo Jimenez Voids Option http://bit.ly/1aOgDo0 #mlb

  3. joeman November 1st, 2013 at 9:16 am

    Blake…thanks for the info, so for me no HOF for Ortiz

  4. joeman November 1st, 2013 at 9:20 am

    Jimenez would be a great add…at 30 rather have him than Kuroda…they have to jump on the Cano situation and make a decision whats right for the NYY….no Cano can get them 2 very good players ….have to build that SPing

  5. Doreen November 1st, 2013 at 9:25 am

    You know, I’m wondering if the nickname “Cooperstown” has maybe rubbed some people the wrong way – it’s a bit presumptive. I know he didn’t give it to himself, but still, maybe it just got people really thinking about the entire package that is “Big Papi.”

  6. Jetrer November 1st, 2013 at 9:25 am

    I think that’s 34 spots taken, fwiw.
    7 rotation candidates are listed, but counted as 6.

  7. blake November 1st, 2013 at 9:27 am

    “Blake…thanks for the info, so for me no HOF for Ortiz”

    this is what I think is kinda funny……joeman obviously follows baseball and he had no idea Ortiz even tested positive in 2003……is there anybody that doesn’t know Arod did? The media made darn sure the whole world knew about Arod but mentioned Ortiz so little that there are even true baseball fans out there that don’t even know he used! it’s crazy…….

  8. blake November 1st, 2013 at 9:28 am

    I’d much rather have Kuroda next year than Ubaldo……Ubaldo could go back to sucking again at any time with that delivery of his.

    Pitchers like him can be wildly different animals year to year…..it all depends on if they are in a groove mechancially……he was this year…..he could shot up in ST in 2014 a mess and stay that way all season.

  9. Doreen November 1st, 2013 at 9:30 am

    Kuroda, but later in the season, a la Clemens, and even Pettitte in 2012.

  10. Giuseppe Franco November 1st, 2013 at 9:43 am

    Count me as another who wants no part of Jimenez. I’d also rather have Kuroda back.

  11. joeman November 1st, 2013 at 9:44 am

    little tidbit..Todd Hilton first 7 years in baseball hit 251 hrs in the last 9 years hit 118 hrs

  12. joeman November 1st, 2013 at 9:47 am

    as great as a hitter Helton was his downfall started at 31 years old

  13. joeman November 1st, 2013 at 9:48 am

    blake November 1st, 2013 at 9:27 am
    “Blake…thanks for the info, so for me no HOF for Ortiz”

    this is what I think is kinda funny……joeman obviously follows baseball and he had no idea Ortiz even tested positive in 2003……is there anybody that doesn’t know Arod did? The media made darn sure the whole world knew about Arod but mentioned Ortiz so little that there are even true baseball fans out there that don’t even know he used! it’s crazy…….

    —————————————————————–
    true…never really paid attention to the Ortiz situation

  14. blake November 1st, 2013 at 9:52 am

    “little tidbit..Todd Hilton first 7 years in baseball hit 251 hrs in the last 9 years hit 118 hrs”

    probably a function of him getting older and the humidor……

  15. joeman November 1st, 2013 at 9:56 am

    have to check out Louis Gonzalez before and after his 2001 season which he was

    57 hrs
    142 rbi
    .325 ba
    .429 obp
    .688 slug

  16. joeman November 1st, 2013 at 9:57 am

    blake November 1st, 2013 at 9:52 am
    “little tidbit..Todd Hilton first 7 years in baseball hit 251 hrs in the last 9 years hit 118 hrs”

    probably a function of him getting older and the humidor
    ————————————–
    31 years old

  17. blake November 1st, 2013 at 10:09 am

    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/w.....-yank-menu

    if the Yanks want to sign everyone then I’m fine with that. It’d make it worth losing the pick if they just signed everybody

  18. blake November 1st, 2013 at 10:16 am

    guys used to decline all the time in their early 30′s……

  19. blake November 1st, 2013 at 10:22 am

    of course Helton could have been juicing too in his younger days…..nobody knows.

  20. mick November 1st, 2013 at 10:31 am

    What would MLB do if all players came out and said they all juice?
    Would they suspend all of them, shutting down baseball.
    Wouldn’t it level the playing field and open the doors to Cooperstown.

  21. mick November 1st, 2013 at 10:34 am

    The media made darn sure the whole world knew about Arod but mentioned Ortiz so little that there are even true baseball fans out there that don’t even know he used! it’s crazy…….
    ==================
    I’ve said this before> People don’t care if players don’t draw attention to themselves by having over the top seasons.

    Ortiz has never had a season to compare with any of Arod’s top 5.

  22. DONNYBROOK November 1st, 2013 at 10:44 am

    The Yanks should focus on plugging the huge holes on their 25 Man roster. Sometimes doing this provides solutions, (via trades), to questions surrounding the 40 Man roster. With that in mind I would………………………

    (1) Let Cano walk. The Yanks are shooting for that $189 Mill, and this will allow them to do that and improve the team at the same time.

    (2) Sign McCann. Sure, he’s 30 and plays a physically demanding position, but he’s also a (L) hitting catcher with power. He and that porch would become friends very quickly. The Yanks ain’t had a power stick at C since Posada. The Yanks also ain’t had a championship since Posada. Not mutually exclusive.

    (3) Trade for Freese. The scenario here is the Exact same one the Yanks encountered when they got the opportunity to steal Brosius from Oakland. Freese was platooned for the last 2 months of the season due to the Cards not liking his D, and he tanked in the Playoffs. I would haggle with the Cards, with an end game of Phelps being the player I would Ultimately use to get him.

  23. bardos November 1st, 2013 at 10:48 am

    Question: If Jeter opts in, the value determined by average of 4 years is $57,500,000 divided by 4 is something like $14 million (of the $189 million.) Is this in any way correct? Wouldn’t the smart thing be for both sides to make a deal, have Jeter reject the option and sign a new contract for the $9.5 million and thus the budget is shaved by almost $5 million?

    Are my calculations totally wrong? Is this illegal? I am a newbie at this.

  24. AAA November 1st, 2013 at 10:50 am

    (3) Trade for Freese. The scenario here is the Exact same one the Yanks encountered when they got the opportunity to steal Brosius from Oakland. Freese was platooned for the last 2 months of the season due to the Cards not liking his D, and he tanked in the Playoffs. I would haggle with the Cards, with an end game of Phelps being the player I would Ultimately use to get him.

    ===========================

    Don’t get the fascination with Freese. He’s not good.

  25. GregD November 1st, 2013 at 10:51 am

    The next two months will be interesting….will we sign a bunch of FAs? will we keep our draft choices? will we sign Cano? Tanaka? Kuroda? Granderson?

  26. GregD November 1st, 2013 at 10:53 am

    Freese’s defense is very shaky…….

  27. GregD November 1st, 2013 at 10:56 am

    We don’t have much to trade for any big player……….trading our pitching is a formula for last place……..

  28. AAA November 1st, 2013 at 10:58 am

    Wouldn’t it level the playing field and open the doors to Cooperstown.

    ================================

    With no testing for all those years, why not assume the field level already? Hall of Fame was about the greatest players of their eras. For the sake of argument, let’s call the steroid era 1990-ish thru the date testing started. Nobody can say with any real degree of certainty who was using what and who wasn’t during that period. Further, anyone who was using wasn’t doing so in violation of any MLB rules.

  29. AAA November 1st, 2013 at 10:59 am

    Freese’s defense is very shaky…….

    ===============

    So’s his offense.

  30. Russell Munson November 1st, 2013 at 11:06 am

    Didn’t Helton hurt his back?

  31. AAA November 1st, 2013 at 11:20 am

    The media made darn sure the whole world knew about Arod but mentioned Ortiz so little that there are even true baseball fans out there that don’t even know he used! it’s crazy…….

    ===================================

    Rodriguez has always been a far more polarizing figure due his his extraordinary talent level, personality quirks, and the franchise he plays for. Was as big a deal made about Ortiz? No, not really. But consider this. That supposedly confidential list had 103 names on it. Can anyone here name 5 of ‘em?

  32. trisha - true pinstriped blue November 1st, 2013 at 11:29 am

    Manny, Grimsley, ORTIZ, Arod, Segui

  33. TKR November 1st, 2013 at 11:32 am

    going to have to outbid the RS for McCann ..the are letting Satly go

  34. blake November 1st, 2013 at 11:33 am

    yea Freese is probably better than what they have right now but he’s not all that great…..he was good in 2012 so you have to decide if that was more who he is or was 2013 more who he is. I wouldn’t trade a ton for him at age 30

  35. dan l November 1st, 2013 at 11:33 am

    McCann is going to the Rangers or Dodgers not the Red Sox.

  36. trisha - true pinstriped blue November 1st, 2013 at 11:49 am

    AAA – I looked it up.

    :)

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