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A few qualifying offer notes

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 04, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The Yankees have made their qualifying offer decisions. Here are a few other indications about qualifying offers from other teams. A complete list should be announced later today.

• The Yankees have already been linked to Carlos Beltran this winter, and Beltran does seem to be a good fit in right field. Signing him, though, will cost a first-round pick as Beltran has received a qualifying offer from the Cardinals.

• Tigers general manager Dave Dombrowski has made it clear that Detroit will not make any qualifying offers. That’s pretty significant for the Yankees, considering Jhonny Peralta, Joaquin Benoit and Omar Infante could each be a strong fit for the Yankees next season. The Yankees have reportedly already checked on Infante (though, to be fair, the Yankees tend to check on just about everyone).

• Another potential bullpen fit for the Yankees, Joe Nathan, is also expected to not receive a qualifying offer. It’s worth remembering that the Yankees gave a qualifying offer to Rafael Soriano, who turned it down and then struggled to get a better deal on the open market. That could impact the way teams and agents view qualifying offers for relievers.

• Also, no qualifying offer for Jarrod Saltalamacchia, but the Red Sox did extend offers to Stephen Drew, Mike Napoli and Jacoby Ellsbury. Of those three, Drew would seem to be the most obvious Yankees target as a shortstop alternative to Derek Jeter. As for Saltalamacchia, even after a good year, $14.1 million would have been a pretty hefty price for a guy who’s best used as a platoon catcher. No qualifying offer does make him a little easier for the Yankees, if they believe he’s up to their expectations defensively. Napoli doesn’t seem to be a great Yankees fit, and the Ellsbury qualifying offer was an obvious no-brainer.

• Of course, Brian McCann is getting a qualifying offer. That was pretty much a given as McCann is probably one of the top five free agents this winter. He could be a target for the Yankees if they decided to make a big splash at catcher, which could be more and more likely if Robinson Cano lands elsewhere.

• Ubaldo Jimenez opted out of his contract and will now receive a qualifying offer from the Indians. At the very least, it’s a nice one-year raise for Jimenez. More likely, though, it’s a little extra baggage as he goes shopping for a multi-year deal after a strong season. Another starting pitcher who seems to be in line for a qualifying offer is Ervin Santana. He had a nice year in Kansas City, and actually should be considered one of the better starting pitchers out there this winter.

No qualifying offer for Josh Johnson. Just a few years ago, Johnson would have been a no-brainer for a qualifying offer or a multi-year deal. Now he’s a massive question mark heading into the offseason.

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88 Responses to “A few qualifying offer notes”

  1. Chip November 4th, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    With Josh Johnson and Jhonny Peralta not getting a QO I would absolutely kick the tires on them. If nothing else – Peralta is a better 3b option than most of the guys the Yankees ran out there last year.

    I would be ok losing the draft pick for McCann, but not Beltran and certainly not Stephen Drew. Which means that unless they sign McCann I wouldn’t sign either Beltran or Drew.

    For what it’s worth, I expect Drew and Ellsbury to be very overpriced Mets next year.

    And I do not think Cano will be back with the Yankees. Just a feeling, not sure if it’s a good thing or not. Depends on the contract he eventually gets.

  2. Chip November 4th, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    I actually wonder if Beltran just takes the offer. At his age, with his injury history, he was probably looking at a 2 year deal at best anyway, but certainly not for $14/year. With the QO on the table I wonder how many GMs would be willing to sacrifice their first round pick for a player who doesn’t factor into the long term future of a team.

    If he takes the offer he’ll make a nice chunk of change, play for a good team that’s probably a lock for the playoffs next year and he can go year-by-year.

    Nelson Cruz is a similar deal (I’ve read that the Rangers will make him an offer). At his age, coming off the suspension he’s probably not getting anywhere near $14/year on the market. Maybe 2 years at $8/year…is the extra year and extra $2mil worth leaving a good team and a good situation?

  3. bigdan22 November 4th, 2013 at 3:45 pm

    Any talk about McCann or Beltran or Choos is entirely premature. The Yanks can’t even afford Kuroda or Granderson. Those QOs are calculated risks. Check out Axisa’s piece this morning. If the Yanks sign Cano the money is just not there to upgrade catching or the outfield. They would only have $20MM left for two rotations spots, bench, bullpen and DH. If you allocate 10-12 for Tanaka there’s no money for Kuroda. If you go with Kuroda over Tanaka, you won’t have enough left to fill the rest of the spots. Without Grandy or any outfield upgrade it looks like we’re stuck again with Ichiro unless Almonte gets a shot.

    The key for upgrading will be Cano. If he signs, the Yanks have few options.

  4. GregD November 4th, 2013 at 3:46 pm

    I’m wondering what team is going to give Cano the contract he wants…..the Dodgers maybe but they are climbing in salary already and may not want to get stuck with an overwhelming contract…….Detroit is not in, they have two big contracts already…….I don’t see the Angels….maybe the Mets would consider a big contract….the Cubs????

  5. Tackelberry November 4th, 2013 at 3:46 pm

    Definitely should look into Salty, Peralta and Benoit. Forget Beltran. Not worth sacrificing a draft pick for.

  6. Tackelberry November 4th, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    Wonder why the Red Sox extended a QO to Drew, but not Saltilimacchia. With Boegarts at SS and Middlebrooks, at 3rd, Drew is expendable. Seems like Salty would be more valuable to them

  7. Tackelberry November 4th, 2013 at 3:51 pm

    Balfour did not get a QO from the A’s.

  8. joeman November 4th, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    Tackelberry November 4th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
    Wonder why the Red Sox extended a QO to Drew, but not Saltilimacchia. With Boegarts at SS and Middlebrooks, at 3rd, Drew is expendable. Seems like Salty would be more valuable to them

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    rumors flying Marlins very interested in Middlebrooks

  9. Chip November 4th, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    Bigdan22,

    You (and Axisa) are both operating on the assumption that this past season’s disaster will have no impact on the Yankees’ desire to hit the $189 – which is fair. However there is also the school of thought that says that the Yankees will say screw it after watching Boston’s duck boat parade (voiced recently by WFAN’s Sweeney Murti among others).

  10. Chip November 4th, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    Tackelberry November 4th, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    Wonder why the Red Sox extended a QO to Drew, but not Saltilimacchia. With Boegarts at SS and Middlebrooks, at 3rd, Drew is expendable. Seems like Salty would be more valuable to them
    ——————-

    They have Lavarnway ready in Pawtucket and will still have Ross. I think they would like to retain Salty but not at $14 mil.

  11. joeman November 4th, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    RS are going to reload….if Salty leaves they aren’t going into next year with Ross and Lavarnway….

  12. Chip November 4th, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    If I was looking to not give up the draft pick I would bring in Tanaka, Johnson, Peralta and Saltalamaccia.

    Retain Granderson, Reynolds and Cano.

  13. joeman November 4th, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    Chip November 4th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
    Retain Granderson, Reynolds and Cano
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    Salty,Granderson and Reynolds will get the NYY close to 500 K’s next year

  14. Chip November 4th, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    joeman November 4th, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    RS are going to reload….if Salty leaves they aren’t going into next year with Ross and Lavarnway….
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    They could make a big deal with the Angels.

    LA gets Dubront, Workman, Jackie Bradley Jr.
    Boston gets Trumbo and Chris Ianetta

    Boston would still have a solid top four of the rotation with Lester, Bucholtz, Peavy and Dempster and they can sign Matt Garza (doesn’t cost a draft pick because he was traded midseason)

    Then they would also shift Victorino to CF to replace Ellsbury, play Nava in RF and Trumbo in LF.

  15. Chip November 4th, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    joeman November 4th, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    Chip November 4th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
    Retain Granderson, Reynolds and Cano
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    Salty,Granderson and Reynolds will get the NYY close to 500 K’s next year
    —————-

    I just look at Reynolds as a nice power option for the bench.

  16. Shame Spencer November 4th, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    They might not even need to trade for a catcher.. they could get AJP or Navarro on a short term deal. Or just try to resign Salty to a one or two year pact.

  17. Chip November 4th, 2013 at 4:04 pm

    By the way – knowing what we know about the Yankees’ luck with pitchers, is there any doubt that they sign Tanaka and then his arm (which just threw 160 pitches in one game and then came back the next day to get the save in the following game) will fall off completely?

  18. joeman November 4th, 2013 at 4:04 pm

    Chip November 4th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
    joeman November 4th, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    Chip November 4th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
    Retain Granderson, Reynolds and Cano
    ———————————————————————
    Salty,Granderson and Reynolds will get the NYY close to 500 K’s next year
    —————-

    I just look at Reynolds as a nice power option for the bench.
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    pay a price for that..K’s every 2.1 ABs

  19. Chip November 4th, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    Shame,

    I thought at first you meant the Yankees. That they are set at catcher because Chris Stewart is still under contract.

  20. bigdan22 November 4th, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    I hope you are right Chip and the Yanks have rejected 189 for this year. I just don’t think they would have gone to this much trouble so far to drop it now but maybe they have. The QOs to Kuroda and Grandy could be a sign of that. Or perhaps they’ve decided to let the arbitrator make the decision for them. Perhaps they’ll act now without the 189 limitation and if they get significant Arod relief then just go with it for the year.

  21. Chip November 4th, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    joeman November 4th, 2013 at 4:04 pm

    Chip November 4th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
    joeman November 4th, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    Chip November 4th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
    Retain Granderson, Reynolds and Cano
    ———————————————————————
    Salty,Granderson and Reynolds will get the NYY close to 500 K’s next year
    —————-

    I just look at Reynolds as a nice power option for the bench.
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    pay a price for that..K’s every 2.1 ABs
    ——————

    You do, but RH power doesn’t grow on trees and, if the budget is an issue and Alex isn’t suspended, he would be a cost-effective insurance policy for when Alex hits the DL.

  22. Shame Spencer November 4th, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    Chip – Bite your tongue! :(

    I don’t think the Yanks upgrade C at all with all of the holes they have. I wish they would get someone in for a one year deal but I think it’s more likely they go with Cervelli/Romine/Murphy.

  23. trisha - true pinstriped blue November 4th, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    “I tend to save my moral outrage for real life issues that deserve it.”

    I guess some people feel that a baseball player cheating the game and the team they root for IS a “real life” issue. I mean it’s not something you’re reading about in a story book, is it? In any event, there are many more people than I who have been “outraged” by this. Though standards aren’t a contest are they?

    *************
    Bret, great. Feel free to email me at your earliest convenience. I have some nutrition question I’d like to ask you about.

    Thanks!

  24. joeman November 4th, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    they have to cut Cervelli loose

  25. sammiejohnson November 4th, 2013 at 4:11 pm

    Scott Miller ?@ScottMCBS 1m

    Braves announce they have made a qualifying offer to C Brian McCann

    ______________________________

    Well, we knew that was coming.

  26. blake November 4th, 2013 at 4:11 pm

    With Josh Johnson and Jhonny Peralta not getting a QO I would absolutely kick the tires on them. If nothing else – Peralta is a better 3b option than most of the guys the Yankees ran out there last year.”

    Salty too

  27. blake November 4th, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    “Any talk about McCann or Beltran or Choos is entirely premature. The Yanks can’t even afford Kuroda or Granderson.”

    We they would have to forget the budget for sure

  28. joeman November 4th, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    Peralta is a better option than any SS they ran out there this year

  29. trisha - true pinstriped blue November 4th, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    joeman, serious question. Do you have fondness for the Sux? (There is no right or wrong answer here.) I don’t mean over the Yankees, I just mean in general.

  30. Shame Spencer November 4th, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    blake November 4th, 2013 at 4:11 pm

    With Josh Johnson and Jhonny Peralta not getting a QO I would absolutely kick the tires on them. If nothing else – Peralta is a better 3b option than most of the guys the Yankees ran out there last year.”

    Salty too

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    Yeah basically.. I’d like to believe a kid like Murphy could grow to be a better player than Salty but he’s not gonna do that in 2014. Salty would probably put up better numbers than any of the players we currently have there… but in this instance they actually have players at that position whereas with the rotation, OF, and 3B they don’t.

  31. blake November 4th, 2013 at 4:17 pm

    The Yankees lose more money by not making the playoffs than they save by getting under the tax ……

  32. joeman November 4th, 2013 at 4:17 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue November 4th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
    joeman, serious question. Do you have fondness for the Sux? (There is no right or wrong answer here.) I don’t mean over the Yankees, I just mean in general.

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    being so close to Boston it’s always all over the paper’s,tv,radio here so I’m kind of tuned into them…. But they did win me cash this year.

  33. Chambliss November 4th, 2013 at 4:18 pm

    I hope that they go after Salty. He is mediocre behind the plate, but he is a much better hitter than Stewart or the kids, at least at this point. He will need to cut his hair short and get rid of the jerry curls. A 3 or 4 year deal would give the younger catchers time to get ready for the big leagues.

  34. trisha - true pinstriped blue November 4th, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    “You (and Axisa) are both operating on the assumption that this past season’s disaster will have no impact on the Yankees’ desire to hit the $189 – which is fair. However there is also the school of thought that says that the Yankees will say screw it after watching Boston’s duck boat parade (voiced recently by WFAN’s Sweeney Murti among others).”

    Chip, thanks. Nobody knows for sure whether or not the 189 is off the table.

    To me, a hint (that it’s off the table) was signing Jeter for what they did.

    We’ll see.

    ***************

    Does anyone think that QOs are made sometimes purely for the sake of getting a draft pick?

  35. Shame Spencer November 4th, 2013 at 4:24 pm

    If they got a guy like Salty, AJP or Navarro on a one or two year deal, what would you think the org would do? Go with X player and Cervelli as the BUC or go with X player, release Cervelli and make Romine the BUC so Murphy can get starting time in AAA?

  36. joeman November 4th, 2013 at 4:25 pm

    Beltran has to be out..don’t know if they would give up a draft pick for him..will be 37 in April and what will he be looking for…the missed the boat on him

  37. trisha - true pinstriped blue November 4th, 2013 at 4:29 pm

    joeman – I’m closer than you are, but I didn’t find any cuteness in the Beantown players walking around with their shirts off enjoying the day on Saturday. I don’t remember your exact post but I think it was close to that. By the way, there are not blood oaths that say Yankee fans have to despise the Sux or any other team.

    No matter who you like or don’t like, I hope you find it in your heart to pick the Yankees to win it all next season!

    :)

  38. randy l. November 4th, 2013 at 4:30 pm

    ” Go with X player and Cervelli as the BUC or go with X player, release Cervelli and make Romine the BUC so Murphy can get starting time in AAA?”

    “no i’d move those chairs over near the aft deck, the other chairs over there for a better view of the iceberg”

  39. joeman November 4th, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue November 4th, 2013 at 4:29 pm
    joeman – I’m closer than you are, but I didn’t find any cuteness in the Beantown players walking around with their shirts off enjoying the day on Saturday. I don’t remember your exact post but I think it was close to that. By the way, there are not blood oaths that say Yankee fans have to despise the Sux or any other team.

    No matter who you like or don’t like, I hope you find it in your heart to pick the Yankees to win it all next season!

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    you live in central CT

  40. joeman November 4th, 2013 at 4:33 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue November 4th, 2013 at 4:29 pm

    No matter who you like or don’t like, I hope you find it in your heart to pick the Yankees to win it all next season!

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    they will have to improve a lot for that to happen

  41. Doreen November 4th, 2013 at 4:40 pm

    J. Al and Yankeefeminista,

    Any reason why Ashmore will no longer be covering the Thunder? That’s really too bad for anyone who followed him.

  42. Doreen November 4th, 2013 at 4:44 pm

    Glad to read the QO’s went to those players we figured, including Grandy.

    Glad that QO’s did not go to any of the other players on the list.

  43. blake November 4th, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    Peralta is a very good fit if he will do a short deal…..all comes down to the stupid budget though.

    It’s be nice if Hal wanted to make his extra profit off a playoff birth rather than off cutting payroll

  44. trisha - true pinstriped blue November 4th, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    “you live in central CT”

    Last I looked I live in RI!

  45. trisha - true pinstriped blue November 4th, 2013 at 4:51 pm

    joeman, do you have psychic ability or do you just guess well?

  46. yankeefeminista November 4th, 2013 at 4:52 pm

    Doreen, I know… poor us… He and Norris were very responsive to getting inside source info to answer technical questions about new pitches prospects were working on, etc interviewing the pitching coaches, doing Q&A’s with scouts, etc. And they both did a great job shooting video … Now Trenton coverage will likely be the same mainstream/generic stuff that we get in the SWB coverage. Sigh. I think Ashmore is covering the Patriots beat fulltime or some such thing, and I also think the blog was more an act of love, so that there are monetary considerations too…

  47. joeman November 4th, 2013 at 4:54 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue November 4th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
    “you live in central CT”

    Last I looked I live in RI!

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    might be the only Yankee fan in the whole state…..I’m 20 mins from Hartford

  48. blake November 4th, 2013 at 4:55 pm

    @JimBowdenESPNxm: The only two players that were made qualifying offers that should consider accepting in my opinion are Hiroki Kuroda and Ubaldo Jimenez

    Drew might should….somebody would probably give him a multi year deal but I doubt he’s getting close to 14 million in 2014 salary elsewhere

  49. blake November 4th, 2013 at 4:57 pm

    Morales might should too

  50. joeman November 4th, 2013 at 4:58 pm

    BTW..RS players shaved their beards off today

  51. trisha - true pinstriped blue November 4th, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    joeman, there are actually some others. I find that those who are tend to be of Italian descent. I have a feeling it’s people who were huge fans of Joe D., and then their descendants, or people who formerly lived in NY.

  52. joeman November 4th, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue November 4th, 2013 at 4:59 pm
    joeman, there are actually some others. I find that those who are tend to be of Italian descent. I have a feeling it’s people who were huge fans of Joe D., and then their descendants, or people who formerly lived in NY.

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    you might be on to something about that Italian descent

  53. joeman November 4th, 2013 at 5:06 pm

    19% of Rhode Island residents are Italian American, the greatest percentage of any state. 199,180 of Rhode Island’s population of 1,048,319 claim Italian ancestry.

  54. joeman November 4th, 2013 at 5:08 pm

    computers are sick

  55. trisha - true pinstriped blue November 4th, 2013 at 5:12 pm

    wicked sick

  56. MTU November 4th, 2013 at 5:14 pm

    I’d rather have AJ P than Salted.

    He’d come cheaper. He’s a better all round hitter and C.

    And that would buy us enough time to see if Romine, JR, or possibly Sanchez are the long term solutions.

  57. J. Alfred Prufrock November 4th, 2013 at 5:18 pm

    LMAO

  58. MTU November 4th, 2013 at 5:18 pm

    And I definitely think Peralta is an excellent solution for 3b/ss.

    I’m still gonna hold out some hope for a Castro trade though.

    We really have to have Tanaka and Kuroda if at all possible.

    I would not give up the draft pick for Santana.

    And I would like to have a 2nd left for the ro.

    Maybe that is Nuno ?

  59. MTU November 4th, 2013 at 5:20 pm

    CC
    Kuroda
    Nova
    Tanaka
    Nuno

    Phelps/Pineda/Warren in reserve

  60. J. Alfred Prufrock November 4th, 2013 at 5:23 pm

    Here’s a thought: stretch Betances back out. :roll:

  61. J. Alfred Prufrock November 4th, 2013 at 5:24 pm

    Peralta’s a crummy short stop, but good hitter. I’d sign him for sure.

  62. MTU November 4th, 2013 at 5:25 pm

    JAP-

    I think that’s like the Joba thing.

    The die has been cast.

    :(

  63. sammiejohnson November 4th, 2013 at 5:26 pm

    The one problem I see with AJP is he is pretty much a hacker at the plate. Low OBP last year at .297. 11 BB in 503 PA. He does have LH power which fits NYS, he just isn’t very patient at the plate. Of course a wet blanket is better than Stewie, so I am all for AJP.

  64. J. Alfred Prufrock November 4th, 2013 at 5:26 pm

    That’s really too bad for anyone who followed him.
    ///

    Doreen, I’m glad for him that he’s moved up, but it’s a big loss to our Trenton scene, here. That guy never mailed it in.

  65. MTU November 4th, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    JAP-

    His advantage is that he can play both 3b/ss and, you’re right, he can actually lay wood on the ball.

  66. J. Alfred Prufrock November 4th, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    MTU November 4th, 2013 at 5:25 pm

    JAP-

    I think that’s like the Joba thing.

    The die has been cast.

    :(
    ///

    It makes too much sense, therefore it will not happen. :D

  67. J. Alfred Prufrock November 4th, 2013 at 5:28 pm

    he can actually lay wood on the ball.
    ///

    what’s that?? :)

  68. MTU November 4th, 2013 at 5:28 pm

    No more options for Betances.

    Sink or swim this year.

  69. J. Alfred Prufrock November 4th, 2013 at 5:30 pm

    He can sink the baseball, that’s for sure.

    Betances is my ideal NYS pitcher: GB, K, DPs.

    But I understand the Yankees’ point. Why get that over six plus innings when you can limit it to one or two??

  70. Doreen November 4th, 2013 at 5:34 pm

    yankeefeminista, we are certainly worse off without Norris and Ashmore. It was truly amazing the coverage that we were given of those teams.

    Sigh.

    Why are there only sad changes happening?

  71. MTU November 4th, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    I’d like to get guys who can fulfill 3 main criteria:

    1) They do not cost us a draft pick

    2) They strengthen an area of weakness

    3) The aren’t overly long contracts so we have a chance to see what our Farm can give us.
    Basically, they buy us time.

  72. Doreen November 4th, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    J. Al -

    Yes, I always wish these guys well who cover the minor leagues, and so Norris moved up, right, but Ashmore, I guess just moved on because nothing was happening for him. Stinks. I checked his twitter, and he said he’d write more about it on the blog shortly.

  73. J. Alfred Prufrock November 4th, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    Doreen, sad for us, happy for Ashmore, who is getting his chance.

    I hope he stays enthusiastic about sports reporting. I think it can beat you down and take away any joy you bring to the job when fresh.

  74. J. Alfred Prufrock November 4th, 2013 at 5:38 pm

    Doreen,

    I was under the impression he was covering pro hockey? I may have misunderstood – maybe that wasn’t going to be a lasting gig?

    Terrific reporter. Not a great talent “scout”, but for reporting, I think he’s unbeatable (better than Norris, who I also liked).

  75. MTU November 4th, 2013 at 5:38 pm

    And in trade I’d love to see us get Castro and, if Cano departs, Phillips.

    Lot’s of possibilities out there.

  76. Doreen November 4th, 2013 at 5:40 pm

    I just saw Carlos Ruiz did not get a QO. Is he on anyone’s radar?

    I know I don’t want Saltalalalalala.

  77. MTU November 4th, 2013 at 5:41 pm

    I hope the Yankees are not thinking that Tanaka would be a younger version of Kuroda.

    IMO that would be a mistake.

    Tanaka is completely unproven.

  78. J. Alfred Prufrock November 4th, 2013 at 5:42 pm

    It’s a shame Jo-Ram had the oblique and Betances has been eunuched.

    Crap, imagine 3 young RHP in our rotation who induce GB and Ks, and who all have murderous 2ndary pitches.

    Just need Manny to get healthy and innings, and that would seal the deal, with C being the elder statesman.

    4/5ths homegrown. That’ll save you $$.

  79. Doreen November 4th, 2013 at 5:42 pm

    J. Al -

    Not sure about the hockey, I know he covers it. And there’s the Somerset Patriots. I agree about the fact that his strength is reporting rather than scouting, but it’s great reporting. And he got very very good interviews.

    Oh, well, time marches on.

  80. MTU November 4th, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    Doreen-

    He’s on mine.

    But behind AJ P and Navarro.

    A plan C FWIS.

    Prefer a lefty to pair w Cervelli/Romine/Murphy.

    Better for NYS.

  81. MTU November 4th, 2013 at 5:45 pm

    JAP-

    I don’t think the Yankees should be breaking in any more than one rookie pitcher at a time.

    That is what that 5 slot should used for IMO.

  82. blake November 4th, 2013 at 5:46 pm

    I don’t agree that AJP is better than Salty at this point in their careers…..at 28 Salty still could have upside and he’s improved offensively each of the last 3 seasons….

  83. MTU November 4th, 2013 at 5:47 pm

    JAP-

    J-Ram has tremendous potential but he needs more innings and has to stay healthy this year.

    Same w Man-Ban.

    It will be super interesting to see how the 2 of them do this season.

  84. Duh Innings II November 4th, 2013 at 5:48 pm

    Teixiera, Jeter, Soriano, and Gardner are locks for 1B, SS, LF, and CF, respectively.

    Let’s assume Cano is locked up and Granderson takes the QO for 2B and RF set.

    This means the Yanks need C, 3B, and DH.

    C – Romine. Let the kid play. NO to Brian McCann whose 2010-13 < 2006-09.

    3B – Eric Jagielo. Stick him at 3B and the #8 slot and let's see what he can do for the rookie minimum. What's the worst that could happen? He posts 11 HR and 50 RBI according to the Yankees MLB site. Wait, that's what SIX Yankee players produced at 3B this season. Take away A-Rod and the 2013 Yankees 3B produced a whopping 4 HR and 31 RBI (5 HR and 33 RBI if the 3B combined for 12 HR and 52 RBI according to Baseball Reference.) I think Jagielo could produce that.

    DH – How 'bout Jeter is the DH and the Yanks re-sign Brendan Ryan to share shortstop with another competent veteran gloveman.

  85. MTU November 4th, 2013 at 5:50 pm

    Blake-

    Maybe so but Salty will be a multi-year deal and AJ P. a 1 or 2yr at most.

    And then there are guys like Navarro and Ruiz.

    He’d be kind of expensive as a platoon catcher.

    I’d like to be able to move our homegrown’s into position more easily.

  86. MTU November 4th, 2013 at 5:52 pm

    Duh-

    Couple of problems the way I see it.

    1st off Romine has not shown that he is an everyday catcher.

    Second, Gigolo isn’t nearly ready for prime time.

    ;)

  87. MTU November 4th, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    el otro ——–>

  88. Hankflorida November 4th, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    Granderson is an interesting dilemma for the Yankees because if Soriano is your primary DH against right handed pitching because of his age, not signing him would put the Yankees in the market for two power corner outfielders. Giving Granderson a three year deal makes sense with signing some one like Choo and having Almonte as the fourth oufielder. Playing Soriano in left full time with Suzuki, Welles and Gardener has the markings for another disastrous season where even the 2nd Wildcard would be out of reach.

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