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Granderson and the qualifying offer

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 11, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Curtis Granderson

Nelson Cruz has informed the Rangers that he has rejected their qualifying offer. The Yankees are still waiting to hear from Robinson Cano, Hiroki Kuroda and Curtis Granderson. Although there seems to be at least some chance Kuroda will accept, most of the attention is on Curtis Granderson and the possibility of him taking the one-year, $14.1 million offer. A few thoughts on the Granderson situation…

Three reasons I’m expecting Granderson to turn down the qualifying offer (and I’m obviously not alone).

• He turns 33 in March. The idea behind a one-year deal would be to reestablish value for next winter, but at that point Granderson, will be well on his way to his 34th birthday. Even after the injuries, this winter might be the best chance for Granderson to cash in on a big, multi-year deal.

• He can play center field. Just because the Yankees seem to be looking at Granderson as a right fielder, that doesn’t mean other teams are similarly limited. Granderson’s power bat coming from a center fielder creates significant value. Unless you buy into Shin-Soo Choo as a center fielder, then Granderson and Jacoby Ellsbury are easily the best center fielders on the market.

• He picked a good time to become a free agent. If that Tim Lincecum signing was an indication of things to come, then teams are ready and willing to spend big money this winter. Reports certainly suggest that’s the case. Not sure one year, $14.1 million is going to be hard for Granderson to match this offseason.

Three ways Granderson’s free agency would impact the Yankees.

• They need power. This can’t be overlooked. Even if Robinson Cano ultimately comes back, the Yankees would still have just Cano, Mark Teixeira and Alfonso Soriano as proven power hitters. Granderson would help that, and losing him would leave that as a significant void to be filling from one position or another.

• They need a right fielder. Technically, the Yankees have a platoon in place, but Ichiro Suzuki and Vernon Wells leave plenty of room for an upgrade. The good new for the Yankees is that right field is a relatively easy position to fill, including a handful of free agent options this winter.

• They’ll probably have to go long-term. Part of the team appeal of a qualifying offer is that it’s only a one-year commitment. To get a Granderson-level hitter on the open market likely means a multi-year deal, either by signing a free agent or trading for a veteran who’s already signed to a contract beyond 2014.

Three ways Granderson would impact the Yankees with a surprise acceptance.

• It would take them re-think the outfield market. With Granderson, Soriano and Brett Gardner, the Yankees regular outfield would be full, and they’d have Ichiro and Wells to play off the bench. Even with an open DH spot, wouldn’t it make far more sense to fill that void with a corner infielder rather than an outfielder?

• It would put a new sort of importance on upper-level outfielders. Consider this: If Granderson were back on a one-year deal, then the Yankees would have five outfielders set to become free agents next winter. Five! Hard to fill that many openings without getting at least some value from the farm system. Tyler Austin. Slade Heathcott. Zoilo Almonte. Someone would need to emerge.

• It just might push back the $189 million plan. Far from a sure thing, but this much is obvious: A one-year deal with Granderson would mean taking his salary off the books next winter. If that one-year deal were coupled with Alex Rodriguez winning his suspension appeal, then it might make far more sense to try cutting salary next winter instead of this winter. Again, though, the Yankees would need some internal help to make it work.

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27 Responses to “Granderson and the qualifying offer”

  1. Hankflorida November 11th, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    Since the Yankee starting pitching is an unknown and their bullpen may be more reliable, the Yankees need firepower in order to hold a lead for the relief pitching. That is why the Yankees should give Granderson a longer term deal, and with Text, Cano, Soriano and Reynolds to fill in for A-Rod plus another left handed power bat at DH or Right field, the Yankees should be able to produce the runs that they lacked this year to get them to October.

  2. randy l. November 11th, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    “Granderson’s power bat coming from a center fielder creates significant value. ”

    since the yankees don’t think like that, granderson isn’t worth 14 million to them. surely they are hoping he doesn’t accept it because of their philosophy that pitching wins.

    if granderson does sign with the yankees, i’m sure they will be disappointed though they can t say that. in effect granderson will be forcing himself on the team.

    this is another between a rock and a hard place for the yankees. if he stays it’s a problem. if he goes, it’s a problem.

    how the yankees have maneuvered themselves into this kind of situation is beyond me. as the richest team by far in baseball , you have to wonder what hal is thinking. the yankees aren’t going to go broke anytime soon, but they might not win for awhile with situations like granderson’s being the norm rather than the exception.

  3. UnKnown November 11th, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    Joe Mauer moving to 1st base full time. Now that contract is not such a good deal. Twins have many more problems than that though.

  4. ltl November 11th, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    Hey Randy:

    I know you aren’t talking to strangers, but it’s nice to see your post. Miss your thoughtful insights.

    Cano or no Cano?

  5. joeman November 11th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    my thinking is that you can have a defense only catcher or SS but it’s tough to have both unless you have solid hitters at every other position

    the players with QO must have feelers out there to see what teams might be interested in them and kind of a idea of what money is there

  6. 86w183 November 11th, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    Just about everything is good in a way and bad in a way…. Granderson’s decision regarding the QO is no different….

    I still think Morales is the only one who accepts.

  7. joeman November 11th, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    Grandy is like Swisher just a nice kid…just wish Grandy would cut down on his K’s and it looks like his RBI totals are a little low for the amount of HR’s he hits…maybe I wrong on that

  8. comet November 11th, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    Randy, Granderson likely wouldn’t be a problem without the over sized contracts of CC, ARod, Texiera and likely Cano. Together those 5 players will take up more than 100 million of the $170 million or so the Yankees can spend to get under their self imposed cap ofr $189mm.

    If they choose not to get under the cap they face huge financial penalties, so they have to look at whether or not they believe they can really win next year if they are to go beyond $189mm. I don’t think there is enough FA talent for them to win next year. The farm system won’t help either in that regard.

    The Yankees are in transition right now. Currently all five of their outfielders are FA at the end of 2014. Who will replace those guys? This year they are devoid of obvious internal options to fill out their rotation.

    Cashman and the rest of upper management ought to have seen this coming. They either didn’t see it coming, or worse did nothing about it.

  9. joeman November 11th, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    2015 you should see a whole different OF for sure..

  10. Mottsx November 11th, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    Looking at the list of Free Agent outfielders for 2015, Gardner might get $15-20M if there is an explosion of contacts this year because there really is NO one in next years class besides him.

    Clearly, I’m exaggerating a little but hopefully, one of Heathcott, Austin and/or MWilliams will be ready next year regardless if they don’t A) Extend/Resign Gardner or B) Sign a Choo/Ellsbury this year.

  11. kschappert November 11th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    Grandy likely on his way out–just seems like the end has come–maxed out production in 2011–definitely not worth big money for extended period of time

  12. randy l. November 11th, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    “Cashman and the rest of upper management ought to have seen this coming. They either didn’t see it coming, or worse did nothing about it.”

    yes it’s hard to imagine that the most valuable franchise in baseball, worth over three billion dollars would let themselves get into this position.

    for myself, until i see some intelligent thought going into running yankees, i don’t pay much attention to what they do. they ran the ship onto the rocks in 2013, and with the same captain and crew steering the ship, they are moving into 2014 assuming it was bad luck that ran them aground.

  13. comet November 11th, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    Randy if you were GM of the Yankees what would you do now?

    If I was the GM I would not resign Cano unless I thought I could trade him. I’d focus my spending on player development and scouting. Rebuilding the farm system has to be priority one.

    Last year was no mistake. Sure they might have been better without the injuries but could they have beaten the Red Sox? Not IMO.

  14. yankeefeminista November 11th, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    Grandy’s bat has afforded us no hit COF. Even with Sori in the mix, we had better replace that power. GGBG and Ichi are not your prototypical COF’s. Time to put the bomber part back into Bronx Bombers…

    And did Monfort really say that about Tulo? SMH.
    _____
    “Meanwhile, Jeff Passan reiterates that the Yankees are ‘going to be bold’ in their pursuit of Rakuten Golden Eagles right-hander Masahiro Tanaka. Re-signing Robinson Cano and landing Tanaka are considered priorities 1 and 1a, he says. The team’s scouts — the same ones who declared Yu Darvish unfit for New York — compared Tanaka’s temperament and makeup to Hideki Matsui’s.” (RAB)

    I thought the lukewarm pursuit of Yu was more a result of Hal the cheapskate rather than based on scouting evaluations/makeup issues, but if this is true, these scouts should be fired.
    _____
    Thinking of my Dad, GB7, and all the other vets on Veteran’s Day.

  15. yankeefeminista November 11th, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    *Veterans Day

  16. comet November 11th, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    Hey YF, good to see you out here. How has life been treating you since the EFS>

    Up here today is called Remembrance Day,

  17. yankeefeminista November 11th, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    Hey comet, good to see you too! Aside from the state of my favorite baseball team, I am doing fine and dandy. How are you? Is Remembrance Day today as well? Shout out to Canadian vets! I have many good fans in your fair country.

  18. yankeefeminista November 11th, 2013 at 2:10 pm

    *friends, lol, Freudian slip, I am thinking of hockey as always.

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    :arrow:

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