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MLB working toward rule change to protect catchers

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 13, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Yankees general manager Brian Cashman has said he’s in favor of a rule change to protect catchers from home plate collisions, and it seems Major League Baseball is moving toward making that sort of adjustment.

Joe TorreORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — Lou Brock’s shoulder-to-shoulder collision with Bill Freehan during the 1968 World Series and Pete Rose’s bruising hit on Ray Fosse in the 1970 All-Star game could become relics of baseball history, like the dead-ball era.

Major League Baseball Executive Vice President Joe Torre said Tuesday momentum is building toward taking action that would help prevent collisions at home plate.

“There’s a pretty good possibility that something eventually will happen,” he said Tuesday after a meeting of big league general managers. “Whether it’s going to be soon enough to have it done this coming year, that remains to be seen. But I don’t think it’s impossible.”

Torre said a written proposal will be developed that will be discussed when GMs gather again during the winter meetings, to be held at Lake Buena Vista from Dec. 9-12.

“There are college rules where you have to slide. I’m not saying that’s what you’re going to do.” Torre said. “The players are bigger, stronger, faster. It’s like in other sports. They’ve made adjustments and rules in other sports for that reason, to protect people.”

Torre said collisions when pitchers cover the plate on wild pitches and passed balls also are an issue. He planned to discuss the matter Wednesday with baseball’s rules committee.

“You’re going to have very understanding people there, a feeling that something has to be done,” he said.

A change for 2014 would need the approval of the players’ association.

“Suffice it to say, the players have some thoughts of their own regarding home-plate collisions as well as a number of other topics,” union deputy executive director Tony Clark, a former All-Star himself, said in an email to The Associated Press. “We’ll be addressing them all when we meet next month.”

Discussion to limit or ban collisions has intensified since May 2011, when San Francisco’s Buster Posey was injured in a collision with Florida’s Scott Cousins. Posey, an All-Star catcher, sustained a broken bone in his lower left leg and three torn ligaments in his ankle, an injury that ended his season.

Posey returned to win the NL batting title and MVP award in 2012, when he led the Giants to their second World Series title in three seasons.

“All that we know now about what’s happening in any sport with collisions and concussions has to be examined, not only from the catcher’s standpoint, but from the baserunner’s standpoint,” Giants general manager Brian Sabean said. “Do you really want anybody in harm’s way and should they allow there to be any malicious intent in baseball?”

Torre said he will get together at the winter meetings next month with San Francisco manager Bruce Bochy and St. Louis skipper Mike Matheny, who retired as a player after the 2006 season because of a concussion.

“I’d be in favor of further discussing that position and ending that situation,” New York Yankees GM Brian Cashman said. “I don’t think catchers should be getting pounded. I’d certainly be in favor of changing that rule.”

Concussions have become a bigger issue in baseball. David Ross of Boston and Alex Avila of Detroit jettisoned their hockey-style headgear and went back to old-style, heavier catcher’s masks because of foul tips. Ross missed a large portion of the season after concussions caused by tips off the bat of Toronto’s Colby Rasmus and Baltimore’s Manny Machado.

“Guys are throwing harder on a consistent basis, the ball moves more, more foul tips,” Tigers GM Dave Dombrowski said. “Our catcher takes a beating on a day-in, day-out basis.”

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295 Responses to “MLB working toward rule change to protect catchers”

  1. blake November 13th, 2013 at 11:53 am

    I think this is good but I do wonder if it’ll be like the NFL where we end up seeing more knee and ankle injuries to catchers……

  2. Against All Odds November 13th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    bigdan22 November 13th, 2013 at 11:46 am
    Nice recap by Axisa over at RAB about they Yanks “changes” in their player development processes. You want to improve procedures? Why don’t you start with the investigation? Like hiring someone who’s independent to conduct it. Hiring Cashman to do this review is like hiring a fox to investigate what happened to all the missing sheep.

    ——————

    Did you read the comment section in that article. They’re swimming in the kool-aid over there. :D

  3. bigdan22 November 13th, 2013 at 12:10 pm

    Repost:

    “4) A-Rod taking the stand = his case in absolute shambles”

    That may def be true. But may be equally true that he’s extremely confident and thinks he may be able to get this down to zero. Not sure either way.

  4. tucker November 13th, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    Per the last thread, Hal definitely didn’t say much despite all the words he uttered. Corporate speak 101.

    And in no way do I see him trying to intimidate other owners with their diminishing financial advantage. The Yanks need to prove themselves on that front before other teams will believe them. They frightened other teams away when they made the initial offer on CC in such a public way before 2009 season. They haven’t done anything like that since then. Everything has been measured — much like Hal’s words.

  5. mick November 13th, 2013 at 12:26 pm

    Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1

    Ervin Santana’s agts asking 5 yrs, $112M. Would be 9th-highest avg ever.
    ===========================
    How is this guy a 22m pitcher?

  6. Tackelberry November 13th, 2013 at 12:30 pm

    mick November 13th, 2013 at 12:26 pm
    Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1

    Ervin Santana’s agts asking 5 yrs, $112M. Would be 9th-highest avg ever.
    ===========================
    How is this guy a 22m pitcher?

    ____________________________________
    May as well shoot for the moon. COuld be his only chance to cash in really big with pitching in short supply. Doesn’t mean he will get it or anywhere close to it of course

  7. mick November 13th, 2013 at 12:36 pm

    Why do I wish to see these salaries come down?

  8. blake November 13th, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    “How is this guy a 22m pitcher?”

    he isn’t but free agency isn’t about that….it’s about supply and demand and what teams will pay to fill holes.

  9. mick November 13th, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    he isn’t but free agency isn’t about that….it’s about supply and demand and what teams will pay to fill holes.
    ===========
    if he gets it, it is about that.
    there is no way he gets it anyway.

  10. blake November 13th, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    Ken Rosenthal ?@Ken_Rosenthal 22m
    Sources: Free-agent SS Brendan Ryan on #Yankees’ radar. Mutual interest. Deal could happen quickly.

    I like bringing him back as a utility guy…..if that’s what he’ll be

  11. mick November 13th, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    he is asking 5 years. they should start asking less years more money. long term deals are becoming a thing of the past.
    at 35 he is still young enough to get another deal.
    sort of like a built in opt out..

  12. mick November 13th, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    I like bringing him back as a utility guy…..if that’s what he’ll be
    =============
    he must be cheaper than nix…wont bring both back

  13. AAA November 13th, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    Sources: Free-agent SS Brendan Ryan on #Yankees’ radar. Mutual interest. Deal could happen quickly.

    I like bringing him back as a utility guy…..if that’s what he’ll be

    ======================================

    Definitely be good to have one shortstop who can play the position defensively. He’s an elite defender. Good to have on Jeter’s DH days and as a late inning defensive replacement.

  14. mick November 13th, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    Why is Joba still tweeting on the side here?
    Grandy, I could understand. He might come back.

  15. mick November 13th, 2013 at 12:46 pm

    What is Bronson Arroyo asking.
    He would be a 200 inning guy.

  16. mick November 13th, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    Maybe Santana oye como va’d Cashman say 200 innings.
    “I could do that.”
    22+m = 200 innings?

  17. pkyankfan69 November 13th, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    Sources: Free-agent SS Brendan Ryan on #Yankees’ radar. Mutual interest. Deal could happen quickly.

    I like bringing him back as a utility guy…..if that’s what he’ll be
    —————————-
    Girardi would surely shed a tear if the Yanks went with Ryan instead of Nixy as the UT man

  18. mick November 13th, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    Ryan could be called Ryno….that could start a new trend.

  19. pkyankfan69 November 13th, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    If we do get Tanaka we’d have

    CC – Nova – Tanaka – ??? – Pineda/Phelps/Warren/Nuno

    I’d be comfortable with 1 spot going to Pinda/Phelps/Warren/Nuno but not 2.

    For that last spot I still hope we get Kuroda.

    If not Kuroda, Tim Hudson would be a nice get.. Sinker baller in NYS is a good fit.

    If not Kuroda/Hudson… We fall into the Kazmir/Feldman/Johnson/Arroyo/Maholm.

    I don’t see the Yanks making a second long term startng pitcher commitment to a Garza/Santana type… Don’t think either of those guys will be worth the money they will get…Ubaldo is also way too up and down for my liking, I would also avoid him.

  20. tucker November 13th, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    Santana is just asking right now. It doesn’t mean he’ll get that much. But there is crazy money available this offseason w/the TV deal windfall, and there will be a lot of bloated contracts signed.

    That is bad news for the Yankees. Doubt they’ll veer from their goal of 189, which has been years in the making. So some/many of these players will be priced out of their budget.

  21. mick November 13th, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    Samba pa ti to Santana 100k per inning pitched…

  22. mick November 13th, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    This is some great Santana: Samba Pa Ti , and any instrumental will do.

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  23. mick November 13th, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    great artwork too..

  24. Mike in Harrisburg November 13th, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    Good thought on Hudson, pkyankfan69. I would think at age 37? coming off a broken ankle he may appreciate an AL team.

  25. tucker November 13th, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    Would like to see Tanaka and Kuroda be the two starters with Phelps/Pineda/Warren battling for the fifth spot. Could always start Pineda in the pen, and if he regains his electric stuff, maybe he’s your next closer.

  26. blake November 13th, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    @DCameronFG: Since people are asking, I think Matt Kemp has negative trade value. Too much risk for 6/130. Just sign Ellsbury instead.

    Dave Cameron is a dummy…..Id much rather Kemp for the same money as Ellsbury. They are both kinda risky but Kemp is better when he’s healthy.

    The yanks should try to trade for him

  27. Wave Your Hat November 13th, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    The Yanks don’t have the offense to carry Brendan Ryan, IMO.

  28. blake November 13th, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    Wave Your Hat says:
    November 13, 2013 at 1:35 pm
    The Yanks don’t have the offense to carry Brendan Ryan, IMO.

    Depends on his role I think….as a starter no way….as a bench guy I think it doesn’t matter so much. Id much rather have Ryan in that role than Nunez

  29. Wave Your Hat November 13th, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    “Depends on his role I think….as a starter no way….as a bench guy I think it doesn’t matter so much. Id much rather have Ryan in that role than Nunez”

    Problem is, on the Yanks, the bench guy at SS is going to get a lot of starter innings.

  30. blake November 13th, 2013 at 1:41 pm

    “Problem is, on the Yanks, the bench guy at SS is going to get a lot of starter innings.”

    Unless they get a SS as I recommend…..either way Id rather Ryan play SS on those days than Nunez…..neither of them can hit but at least Ryan can play defense

  31. blake November 13th, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    @FeinsandNYDN: The Carlos Beltran market is developing fast and furious: NYY, TEX, BOS, KC, CLE and SEA all interested. Interesting all are AL teams.

  32. blake November 13th, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    They should pass on Beltran…..ship sailed twice…..

  33. Wave Your Hat November 13th, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    blake-

    The Yanks got Ryan, I guess, because they decided Nunez wasn’t the answer. Of course, that doesn’t make Ryan the answer, either.

  34. bigdan22 November 13th, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    Wave Your Hat November 13th, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    “The Yanks don’t have the offense to carry Brendan Ryan, IMO.”

    Looks like a victory for Team Cheap to me. I’d say Peralta is out for the time being at least. At least until they know Arod is suspended. Just don’t see them carrying Jeter, Nunez, Ryan and Peralta, and I don’t see them getting rid of Nunez. Looking now like Nunez is your third baseman.

  35. bigdan22 November 13th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....-1.1515136

    Now that’s the back page you want to see!

    Cashman is the one who needs to go school. I liked him better during his “No Comment” period.

  36. trisha - true pinstriped blue November 13th, 2013 at 2:10 pm

    “We all worry, but I try not to worry about things I can’t control…”

    Since you can’t control it, don’t worry about who the Yankees get and don’t get. Sounds like great advice to me!

    No need to thank me for adding 10 years to your life.

    ;)

  37. bigdan22 November 13th, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    “We all worry, but I try not to worry about things I can’t control…”

    “Fiddle-dee-dee!”

  38. bigdan22 November 13th, 2013 at 2:19 pm

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    “If we do get Tanaka we’d have

    CC – Nova – Tanaka – ??? – Pineda/Phelps/Warren/Nuno

    I’d be comfortable with 1 spot going to Pinda/Phelps/Warren/Nuno but not 2.

    For that last spot I still hope we get Kuroda.

    If not Kuroda, Tim Hudson would be a nice get.. Sinker baller in NYS is a good fit.

    If not Kuroda/Hudson… We fall into the Kazmir/Feldman/Johnson/Arroyo/Maholm.

    I don’t see the Yanks making a second long term startng pitcher commitment to a Garza/Santana type… Don’t think either of those guys will be worth the money they will get…Ubaldo is also way too up and down for my liking, I would also avoid him.”

    I agree with all of this. Intrigued by Kazmir.

    But what if the Yanks don’t get Tanka? Or worse, don’t get Tanka or Kuroda? I think there’s at least a 50% chance of that happening.

  39. Wave Your Hat November 13th, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    I’m not worried.

    I’m resigned, which is worse.

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