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Rivera on Robertson: “Hopefully they give him the job, because he can do that”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 14, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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Last night, Mariano Rivera was one of the honorees at the New Rochelle Fund for Educational Excellence Gala. He was there to raise money and awareness for a group that works to support school programs that might otherwise go unfunded.

At one point he was asked to answer questions from a group of students. I was expecting a bunch of baseball questions — What’s it like to pitch at Yankee Stadium? Is Derek Jeter nice? That sort of thing — but instead, the kids asked a lot of stuff about education and community service and leadership. Rivera responded with answers about hard work and passion. He was soft-spoken and humble, which is always the case.

The baseball questions, came from the Post’s Dan Martin and I. There were a ton of folks waiting to shake Mo’s hand and snap cell phone pictures, so Dan and I made it quick with two basic topics.

Rivera (7)The Yankees upcoming trip to Panama

“It seems like (it’s going to happen),” Rivera said. “I was told (it’s close), but it hasn’t been completed. I don’t want to say something that might mislead something.”

Rivera wasn’t in a position to say it’s definitely happening, but he is clearly excited about the (unofficial) two-game exhibition series expected to take place in Rivera’s home country during the 2014 spring schedule. This isn’t the first time it’s been in the works, he said.

“We were about to do that last year, I believe, but it fell,” Rivera said. “It didn’t go through. I would have loved to have done it. … It’s good because, if it happens, I will be happy. My people will have the opportunity to see that live: First of all, professional baseball, and second, the New York Yankees. Hopefully it happens and everybody is happy with it.”

Panama gets to see the Yankees. And the Yankees get to see Panama.

“We will make them feel at home,” Rivera said.

David RobertsonThe Yankees reluctance to commit to Dave Robertson as closer

When Rivera took over for John Wetteland, he didn’t have the same sort of offseason uncertainty facing Dave Robertson this winter. He knew for certain that the closer job was his to lose.

“I knew because they called me, they told me,” Rivera said. “… It’s not surprising (that the Yankees are leaving options open this time). They want to make sure, I guess. I don’t know how they want to run it, but they want to make sure that they explore all of their abilities or chances.”

Rivera understands that the Yankees have to explore their options and build some backup plans, but he left no doubt that he’s hoping Robertson gets the job. And he’s hoping that Robertson is given some time to settle into the role.

“Hopefully they give him the job, because he can do that,” Rivera said. “But he doesn’t control that (decision). When it happens, then he has to be ready for it. Before, he just has to be ready for any situation. … You don’t know how you’re going to respond. You cannot (judge) a pitcher from five outings, or three or two outings. You have to allow (time) to see what you have. I think that’s exactly what they did with me. As a matter of fact, I blew like three or four saves in the first week. If they would have given up on me, we would never have this. You don’t know what it is. David has the pitches, but it’s the Yankees who make the decision.”

It wasn’t his first week, but Rivera really did blow three saves in his first seven outings in 1997.

One pretty bad cell phone picture, and two much better Associated Press photos

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294 Responses to “Rivera on Robertson: “Hopefully they give him the job, because he can do that””

  1. tucker November 14th, 2013 at 11:58 am

    My fear is Budget Hal is the real Hal. The Yanks had a spending splurge before the 2009 season, perhaps to appease the old man.

    But Hal has since tightened the purse strings, even before there was a new CBA or 189. What gives anybody any hope that the Yanks will once again spend when they reset their tax rate? Maybe this is who the Hal-led Yanks will continue to be — a team that will toe the line on spending to avoid paying taxes. Am not as optimistic as some who believe the Yanks will reopen the spigot in 2015 … And as Mac correctly points out, even If they spend in 2015, there’s no guarantee the talent will be there to acquire.

    So, perhaps those scouts should heed Hal’s advice and look for better players.

  2. Jimmy Rabbits November 14th, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    In my heart of hearts, I don’t think the Yankees are really that close to being a legitimate contender on an annual basis. So my proposals will not lead to a quick fix here. With what I’m proposing for 2014, you’re looking at an 85- or 86-win team at best. But hopefully, this will lay the foundation for success into the next decade:

    1. Oppenheimer has 1 year left on his deal, but he’ll likely be out after next season. I would spend as much money as it takes to pick off at least 2 of the people in the Cardinals’ scouting department, preferably their minor-league development people.

    If you look at this org chart here (http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.c.....p?c_id=stl), they have at least a dozen lower-level people who have contributed to the most prolific farm system in the majors.

    You might not get any of their high-level directors, but bring in 2-3 of those people to work under Oppenheimer for a year and get a feel for what the Yankees have in their system. Then tell Oppenheimer to hit the road next October and promote the best newcomer to be the new director of scouting.

    I think that this move is more important than any player signing or trade that they could realistically do this offseason, so I’m listing it first.

    2. Sign Cano to a 6-year contract worth $165 million, with a seventh-year option that vests if he has a certain number of plate appearances in the sixth year (2019).

    This should serve both parties; Cano gets a deal with an average annual value of $27.5 million, which puts him at or near the top of the sport. No one in baseball will offer him a deal with a higher AAV, and the seventh-year option is relatively attainable for him, too.

    So if that seventh-year option vests, the deal is worth $192.5 million for a player who is 31 years old right now.

    It’s great for the Yankees because a) they keep their best player; and b) they’re not burdened by another excessive 10-year contract.

    That would be my one and only offer to him. If he is unhappy with the years or is hoping for a $200 million deal, I would say happy trails. He’s a great talent, but he’s not Miguel Cabrera. One player cannot carry a team, and Cano is not the difference between them being a championship contender.

    3. I think they need to sign three starting pitchers, and the first and most logical fit is Tanaka.

    They should make sure that they completely blow away all the competition with their posting bid, so I would post $95 million. It’s an outrageous number for a guy who’s never pitched in the majors, but it doesn’t impact their luxury tax number.

    Then I would sign him for a 5-year deal worth $60 million. That’s a lower AAV than what they paid Kuroda last season, it’s not a crippling deal in terms of its length, and Tanaka will be a bargain at $12 million per season if he pans out to be a 200-inning, 180-strikeout, sub-4.00 ERA pitcher for the next four or five years.

    4. Sign Jason Vargas to a 3-year, $27 million deal. I know that this guy thrived in Safeco, has been below-average on the road and is coming off a down season (marred by a weird blood clot, I think).

    But I just have a hunch that he could actually be a good No. 4 starter for the Yankees after CC, Tanaka and Nova. He has never been a hard thrower, so the fact that he’s 30 and might lose a tick on the fastball doesn’t bother me. These lefties always seem to get a little better with age; my guess is that they learn how to pitch.

    Again, he’s left-handed — so he essentially replaces Pettitte as the second lefty to provide balance to the rotation. I know he’s a fly-ball pitcher, but hopefully that won’t kill him at Yankee Stadium (can’t be any worse than Hughes). Also, check out his 3-year splits (2011-2013) against Boston, Baltimore and Tampa — surprisingly good!

    I’d rather give a 3-year deal to a 30-year old than give big bucks to guys like Garza, Ubaldo, Nolasco or Colon. I think Vargas is an affordable gamble for them.

    My plan B, in case someone outspends them for Vargas, would be to sign Kazmir to the same type of deal.

    5. Sign Michael Morse to a 2-year, $13 million deal. Another buy-low option, but I think he has much more upside as a third/fourth outfielder than Vernon Wells. And heck, if he returns to 2011-12 form, I’d start him every day in right field.

    Morse also can serve as insurance at first base if and when Teixeira gets injured again. Morse always has been one of those good “clubhouse guys,” something that can’t hurt a team that looks like it’s gonna have a bit of a leadership void.

    Again, look at his 3-year stretch in Washington from 2010-2012. If you can get .270, 20 HR and 65 RBI out of him in 450 plate appearances, that’s a steal at $6.5 million per year. That’s basically what Kendrys Morales is going to produce, and he’s looking for twice as much money.

    6. Sign Brendan Ryan to a 2-year, $8 million deal. He’s all glove and no stick, but the guy is so good defensively at shortstop. He’s a great insurance option for Jeter, and he can be their Opening Day shortstop in 2015 if there isn’t a better option.

    Ryan also could light a fire under Nunez, who I think needs to be pushed a little bit. They’ve kind of given Nunez the keys to the car as the heir apparent at either shortstop or third base.

    7. If you’re going to sign Ryan, you need to have another ground-ball pitcher potentially in the rotation. I would look to get either Vogelsong or Jake Westbrook on the cheap with a 1-year deal — kind of like what the Mets did last season with Shaun Marcum.

    It would be a “show-me” contract for one year — maybe $4-5 million.

    Then you would enter spring training with a rotation of Sabathia, Tanaka, Nova and Vargas/Kazmir with Vogelsong/Westbrook competing for the fifth spot with Pineda/Phelps/Nuno/Warren.

    8. They’ve squeezed as much as they’re going to get out of Boone Logan, but they will need another lefty out of the bullpen. Out of all the guys out there, the guy that intrigues me the most as a lefty specialist is Manny Parra, who I think they could get for one year at $3 million.

    9. They need a real starting catcher this season, but I don’t want to sign a veteran to a long-term deal. They should stay committed to Romine/Murphy/Sanchez, so I’d bring in Jose Molina on a one-year deal for $2 million.

    Molina is great at handling a pitching staff, he still throws the ball very well, and he could mentor the young catchers. I think he’d be a great guy to have ideally as a 60-game catcher, but he wouldn’t be awful if you needed to get 100 games out of him.

    ————-

    That would be my plan for this offseason. I have no interest in McCann, Beltran, Garza, Ellsbury, Choo, Arroyo or any of these other guys. The Yankees are more than 2 or 3 players away from being relevant, but they could begin a rebuild with the moves that I’ve suggested.

    If you include players that I’d want to retain (Cano and Ryan) plus the $5 million savings from 2013-14 with Jeter’s new contract, they have $110 million coming off a $203 million payroll.

    The eight moves that I proposed will total $69 million annually (Cano 27.5, Tanaka 12, Vargas/Kazmir 9, Morse 6.5, Ryan 4, Vogelsong/Westbrook 5, Parra 3, Molina 2).

    That would give them a $162 million payroll — well below the $189 million threshold — before you even get into the A-Rod mess. I’m not committing long-term contracts to the best free agents of a mediocre class, I’m stabilizing my defense with Ryan and Molina, I’m adding “good guys” in Morse and Molina, and I’m buying low on post-hype guys in Vargas/Kazmir, Morse and Parra.

    Plus they will have plenty of extra money to spend in order to fill out the roster with smaller deals: maybe bring back David Huff, add another right-handed arm to the bullpen, maybe bring in another veteran power bat on the cheap to help on the bench.

    Let’s assume that A-Rod somehow finagles his way out of this suspension, or gets it reduced to 50, and therefore is a functional member of the team for the majority of the season. If that’s the case, here’s what they enter spring training with:

    1B: Teixeira
    2B: Cano
    SS: Jeter
    3B: Nunez (keeping the seat warm for A-Rod)
    LF: Soriano
    CF: Gardner
    RF: Ichiro/Morse
    C: Molina/Romine
    DH: Weigh station for veterans (Teix, Jeter, Soriano, Morse, etc.)

    SP: Sabathia
    SP: Tanaka
    SP: Nova
    SP: Vargas/Kazmir
    SP: Westbrook/Vogelsong/Nuno/Phelps/Pineda/Warren

    CL: Robertson
    RP: Claiborne
    RP: Parra
    RP: Kelley
    RP: Huff
    (Last 2 bullpen spots are up for grabs)

    BN: Wells
    BN: Ichiro/Morse
    BN: Romine/Murphy/Molina
    BN: Melky Mesa
    BN: Nunez/A-Rod
    BN: Ryan

    What do you think?

  3. tucker November 14th, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    Good to see Mo express a vote of confidence for Robertson. He walks too many hitters, but he has the stuff and demeanor to close games. So, who cares if Brian Wilson won’t shave his beard to join the Yanks. This team already has a closer.

  4. Pat M. November 14th, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    Yanks are hoping that Derek Jeter will be healthy next year because his name in the lineup should be worth 10,000 at the gate . Pool service has arrived ( lime green outfits GB ) and aquatic volleyball awaits. I’m tail lights

  5. blake November 14th, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    blake says:
    November 14, 2013 at 12:06 pm
    Very short sighted and those in the media just ate it up as gospel. “They have to get under the tax the implications are severe ” _ Francesa”

    The missing the playoffs implications are a lot worse than the tax implications…..Hal wanted his cake and eat it too and the team isn’t ready

  6. blake November 14th, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    @RiverAveBlues: Heyman: Yankees are “weighing a run” at Kendrys Morales http://t.co/59j2eeXaGG

    Uhm

  7. MTU November 14th, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    “What do you think?”

    I think your post is way too long.

    ;)

  8. trisha - true pinstriped blue November 14th, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    Jimmy Rabbits, I’m on my way out the door as I post this but I just want you to know that for some reason, posters here are averse to reading posts that are really long. I’m not sure exactly why, but they do it to their own here. So if you don’t get replies, don’t feel you are being intentionally ignored. Maybe if you break it down into smaller sections, you might get some action.

    And maybe someone will actually take the time to read it and respond. When I come back I will read it and do my best to respond, though I am one of the least knowledgeable when it comes to ideas on trades, etc.

    :)

  9. tucker November 14th, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    Pat M, that is what Hal said — people didn’t show up in 2013 as often because Jeter and Tex were injured. Short sighted in my view. The fans love Jeter, no doubt, but they will still avoid the Stadium if Jeter is starting on a .500 team.

  10. trisha - true pinstriped blue November 14th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    Just saw MTU’s. Case in point.

    :)

  11. MTU November 14th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    I wanted Kendrys up until they made him the QO.

    Not giving up the draft pick for him.

    Not unless it’s part of a conscious decision to do away w 189 for now.

    ;)

  12. blake November 14th, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    Id consider morales if the pick had already been spent ….not otherwise

  13. MTU November 14th, 2013 at 12:22 pm

    Blake-

    The St. Louis’s are for breakfast.

    Delicious. Good job by my friend.

    :)

  14. blake November 14th, 2013 at 12:24 pm

    Ribs for breakfast! A true mountain man

  15. luis November 14th, 2013 at 12:26 pm

    Mr Rabbits,

    I did take the time to read it…Two things though:

    1) Oppenheimer is not the problem…The problem lies in the coaching and development department if you ask me…So I rather cut Cashman first…And let the new GM decide his fate…But your suggestion about the Cards coaching and scouting men, is right on point and an interesting approach.

    2) I liked the Morse suggestion…But I would keep the 5th spot of the rotation open for our own guys, meaning no Westbrook or someone of that kind…Let the kids fight for that spot…We have plenty of depth on that regard, let´s spend elsewhere.

    But, next time try to make posts shorter..

  16. Chip November 14th, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    MTU and Blake –

    I agree with you both on Morales; I would also throw Beltran and Nelson Cruz in there too.

  17. blake November 14th, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    With Hals new scouting strategies they have to keep that pick right!

  18. luis November 14th, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    Maybe they `plan to turn Morales in to the next big Papi!!

  19. tucker November 14th, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    So if the Yanks don’t field a playoff team in 2014, do you thing Cashman keeps his job? Maybe the big organizational changes come after 2014.

  20. Against All Odds November 14th, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    He could have broken the post into two parts but we’re used to Donny’ long post so it’s not out of the norm.

    He put a lot of thought into what he wrote.

  21. Against All Odds November 14th, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    tucker November 14th, 2013 at 12:38 pm
    So if the Yanks don’t field a playoff team in 2014, do you thing Cashman keeps his job? Maybe the big organizational changes come after 2014.

    ——————-

    Probably because what’s the point of keeping his boys only to get rid of the guy that hired them the very next yr. Besides since they have implemented these new changes you know they’re going to say it’s going to take a couple of yrs to see if these changes have an impact on the farm system.

  22. bigdan22 November 14th, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    What do you think?

    There’s a couple things I like about your post Rabbits. First, you show a real understanding that the Yanks’ inherent roster problem is not something that can be fixed by buying expensive players. I’ve said for awhile that the “Dave Winfield Free Agent Era” is over. To that end, I doubt that an unlimited budget for 2014 would field a championship team. The problem with 189 is that I’m fairly certain adhering to that budget would lead to a team well-below average, perhaps in the 75-win area, and the NY market will not stand for that even if you are proposing a long term development plan. There’s most definitely a reasonable middle ground here for the Yanks (in fact there are practically an infinite number of “middle grounds”) to put a respectable team on the field next year while building for the future and not saddling the team with bad long term veteran contracts.

    The second thing I like is your emphasis on spending for minor league development. Not only should Yanks engage in a “Marshall Plan” for investing in minor league talent on and off the field (including raiding any and all teams of their minor league scouts and administrators) but the Yanks need to totally re-think a minor league development process that dates back to Branch Rickey and is in desperate need of fresh ideas. I believe for that to happen, you would need to change the GM and go from there.

    Unfortunately a lot of this is pipe-dreaming. But the Jets signed Ed Reed this morning so there is hope!

  23. tucker November 14th, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    Morales may rake at the Stadium, but he’s not worth a draft pick unless they go all out. I’d sign Kubel instead.

  24. Chip November 14th, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    If Kuroda walks away I would try to get both Tanaka and Garza for the rotation. Tanaka’s got plenty of upside and Garza doesn’t cost the team a draft pick to sign.

    Mike Morse was pretty brutal last year and was hurt the year before so he might be cooked.

    If they can’t swing a deal for David Freese I would look at trying to get Chris Johnson out of Atlanta – they have a ton of arbitration eligible players including Johnson and might be willing to part with him if they can’t work out a long term deal.

    I would probably rather sign Jason Kubel than Kendrys Morales at this point.

  25. luis November 14th, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    No Garza for me….Way too expensive for the actual production… Ideally, I would like another lefty

  26. Hankflorida November 14th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    Jimmy Rabbits, you started with the premise that you could set the foundation for the future with a team that could possibly win 85 games next year. I think that the mark has to be set a little higher, and at least the 2nd Wildcard has to be in play in order to keep the fans interested. As an example, this year as we came down to the wire for the 2nd Wildcard, Cleveland’s schedule was staring us in the face, and we knew the Yankees had a tough road to climb with their schedule but we were there for them. Can you imagine the uproar if next year the Yankees are out of it by August and bring in their kids from the farm to the tune of “Send in the Clowns.”

  27. Chip November 14th, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    Luis,

    If his health doesn’t scare you – try trading for Brett Anderson out of Oakland.

  28. coney1 November 14th, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    Ken Rosenthal ?@Ken_Rosenthal 30m
    Owner: “Serious reservations” among clubs about posting process. Possible no agreement is reached, which means no Tanaka this off-season.

    —–

    Well that would put a serious crimp in the Yankees’ pitching plans. May have to sign both Garza and Jimenez if that is the case.

  29. DONNYBROOK November 14th, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    If it came down to one or the other, I would go McCann over Choo due to need. If I could sign Pierzynski for 1 season, then I would go with Choo. I continue to believe Freese can be had cheaply, and Ryan signed as SS insurance\utility IF.

  30. Patrick November 14th, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS 23m
    Rival gm on tanaka: “I’d be shocked if it isn’t the yankees.”

    Hopefully we get him

  31. tucker November 14th, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    Tanaka makes sense because he won’t cost as much in AAV and he will still be young if/when the Yankees emerge from this self-imposed spending limit. I’d steer clear of the likes of Garza and Jimenez. Sign somebody like Bartolo Colon instead. He’d be a short-term fix, though the Yanks may shy away from him because of his PED history.

  32. blake November 14th, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS 23m
    Rival gm on tanaka: “I’d be shocked if it isn’t the yankees.”

    I won’t be….I think somebody will make a crazy bid and it probably won’t be Hal

  33. austinmac November 14th, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    Where would Morales play?

  34. Giuseppe Franco November 14th, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    tucker November 14th, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    So if the Yanks don’t field a playoff team in 2014, do you thing Cashman keeps his job? Maybe the big organizational changes come after 2014.

    —–

    I think 2014 will be Cashman’s final season as Yankee GM whether he decides on his own to move on or because Hal and Co. decide not to bring him back.

  35. Chip November 14th, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    blake November 14th, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS 23m
    Rival gm on tanaka: “I’d be shocked if it isn’t the yankees.”

    I won’t be….I think somebody will make a crazy bid and it probably won’t be Hal
    —————–

    All depends on the marketing opportunities. If Tanaka can generate the kind of money in Japan that a Nomo or Ichiro in his prime or Matsui did – then Hal will see the benefit in it.

  36. austinmac November 14th, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    I do not believe fans show up in droves on a daily basis for Jeter on a bad team. I predict another 5,000 decline in attendance with such a team. Such a team seems more likely than not to me.

  37. blake November 14th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    austinmac says:
    November 14, 2013 at 1:27 pm
    Where would Morales play?

    He’s be part of a 5 man DH rotation

  38. Chip November 14th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    Giuseppe Franco November 14th, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    tucker November 14th, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    So if the Yanks don’t field a playoff team in 2014, do you thing Cashman keeps his job? Maybe the big organizational changes come after 2014.

    —–

    I think 2014 will be Cashman’s final season as Yankee GM whether he decides on his own to move on or because Hal and Co. decide not to bring him back.
    ——————-

    Went through this during the season – dropping Cashman only makes sense if you’re replacing Randy Levine too. If Levine remains the president of baseball operations then the next GM will be a yes man.

  39. blake November 14th, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    “All depends on the marketing opportunities. If Tanaka can generate the kind of money in Japan that a Nomo or Ichiro in his prime or Matsui did – then Hal will see the benefit in it.”

    Doesn’t matter….it’s a closed bid and with the new rules (if it goes through) the Dodgers could bid 90 million and only end up paying 70……I could see them making a super aggressive bid like that …..Hal isn’t aggressive by nature and it’s hard to see him dpi something like that.

  40. Giuseppe Franco November 14th, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    coney1 November 14th, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    Well that would put a serious crimp in the Yankees’ pitching plans. May have to sign both Garza and Jimenez if that is the case.

    ——

    I certainly hope not. I don’t want any part of either of them.

  41. austinmac November 14th, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    GF,

    Who are your proposed 400 inning replacement pitchers?

  42. tucker November 14th, 2013 at 1:38 pm

    “Giuseppe Franco November 14th, 2013 at 1:29 pm
    tucker November 14th, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    So if the Yanks don’t field a playoff team in 2014, do you thing Cashman keeps his job? Maybe the big organizational changes come after 2014.

    —–

    I think 2014 will be Cashman’s final season as Yankee GM whether he decides on his own to move on or because Hal and Co. decide not to bring him back.”

    I think you are right. The Yankees will need to blame someone when they don’t make the playoffs in 2014. Last year’s scapegoat was the injuries. Next year, it will be Cashman’s inability to develop MLB-ready talent.

    The Sherman column today suggests Hal is taking an active role in negotiations with agents. One way to read that is he’s showing interest. Or maybe he is undermining Cashman.

    Whether by his own choice or the organization’s choice, I doubt Cashman will be the GM after his contract expires

  43. austinmac November 14th, 2013 at 1:38 pm

    Boras represents Morales. No wonder Heyman is building a list of interested teams.

  44. blake November 14th, 2013 at 1:41 pm

    austinmac says:
    November 14, 2013 at 1:38 pm
    Boras represents Morales. No wonder Heyman is building a list of interested teams.

    Yup

  45. ant928 November 14th, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    Blake:

    Sorry for the delay and we do the 3-2-1 on a side box so yeah I can see that being a problem on the Egg (I have a Bullet FYI). But yes…my own sauces, rubs, mops, etc. With luck I’ll be building the Big Baby Double Barrel for this season!

  46. ant928 November 14th, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    If that’s your problem with the Egg then go for 225. The Egg is solid on holding temp but it does run hot. It’s b!tch to get a to that low but patience and you’ll get it. Had my Bullet for 10 years and I know just how to handle her now where I can practically just look at her and she’ll know what I want from her.

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