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Replay changes getting closer to reality

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 15, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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There was that initial belief that Masahiro Tanaka might not be posted after all, then I had to head into the city for the Joe Torre charity event, and somewhere in those busy hours of yesterday afternoon, this bit of news kind of slipped through the cracks here on the blog. The replay changes are going to be interesting, the kind of thing we kind of have to see to really figure out how it’s going to work. Here are the details.

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — Another baseball tradition is about to largely disappear: a manager, with a crazed look in his eyes, charging the field and getting into a face-to-face shouting match with an umpire.

Instead, most calls on the field next season will be subject to video review by umpires in New York,

Major League Baseball took the first vote in a two-step process Thursday, unanimously approving funding for expanded instant replay in 2014. They plan to approve the new rules when they meet Jan. 16 in Paradise Valley, Ariz., after agreements with the unions for umpires and players.

“We made a gigantic move today,” Commissioner Bud Selig said. “This is quite historic.”

Selig long opposed replay and watched from afar as it was first used by the NFL in 1986, the NHL in 1991, the NBA in 2002 and Wimbledon in 2006. Even the Little League World Series put replay in place for 2008. MLB allowed it starting August 2008 but in a limited manner: to determine whether potential home runs were fair or cleared fences.

Bud SeligNow, virtually every decision likely will be subject to review, except balls and strikes, checked swings and some foul tips.

“Tag plays, out/safe at first, fair/foul past the bags, those are all going to be included,” said Rob Manfred, MLB’s chief operating officer.

Manfred said when a manager wants to challenge a call, he will notify an umpire, triggering a review in New York by what are likely to be present or retired big league umps. A headset would be brought to the crew chief, who would be notified of the decision.

There will be a maximum of two challenges per manager in each game — “it could be less,” Manfred said — and if the challenge is upheld it would not be counted against the manager’s limit. If a manager is out of challenges, umpires probably will be allowed request a review on their own.

Manfred appeared to indicate that the video being reviewed in New York could be shown to fans in stadiums or possibly on television broadcasts.

“I think you can expect that there will be as part of this package expanded use of in-stadium video boards,” he said.

Selig has emphasized that he doesn’t want replay to slow games, whose increased length in recent decades has been targeted for criticism.

“The current thinking is that if a manager comes out and argues, once he argues, he can’t challenge that play,” Manfred said. “One way to control the timing of challenges is to use the natural flow of the game, that is the next pitch cuts off your right to challenge.”

But MLB doesn’t want managers to tell players to stall to give team employees time to review video on their own and instruct the dugout whether to use a challenge.

In tests last week at the Arizona Fall League, most reviews averaged 1 minute, 40 seconds.

Former manager Tony La Russa, now an MLB special adviser, said managers will have to “rely on their integrity” and not cause delays.

Manfred said the initial rules likely won’t be the final ones.

“The system will see some continuing evolution until we get to a point of stability, similar to what you saw in the NFL,” he said.

A few basics of the new replay rules

• Each manager will have a maximum two challenges per game.

• If a challenge is upheld, it won’t count against a manager’s limit.

• If a manager wants to challenge a call, he notifies an umpire before the next pitch.

• A manager cannot call for a challenge after he argues a play.

• Video will be reviewed in New York, likely by current or former major league umpires.

• If a manager is out of challenges, an umpire probably will be allowed to call for a review if he wants to.

• Ball/strike calls, checked swings and some foul tip calls may not be reviewed.

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61 Responses to “Replay changes getting closer to reality”

  1. Mottsx November 15th, 2013 at 2:14 pm

    Jeter on Tanaka…

    “From what I understand, he is the real deal,” said Jeter, who got the lowdown on Tanaka from his buddy and former teammate Andruw Jones, who played with Tanaka for Rakuten this season. “So of course, I would like to get as many good players as we can.”

    From the Captain…. it sounds like we should forget $189 and go all out. He doesn’t want another mediocre season.

  2. jacksquat November 15th, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    jacksquat November 15th, 2013 at 2:12 pm
    I can see that there is a difference between Arod and MLB, however plea bargaining I see as different than handing over a bag with lots of cash in it.

  3. jacksquat November 15th, 2013 at 2:16 pm

    The Big Green Egg comes in sizes other than big?

  4. blake November 15th, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    “The Big Green Egg comes in sizes other than big?”

    oh yea…mini, small, medium, large, and XL!

  5. Bret The Hitman November 15th, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    I think the smallest size costs $300

  6. blake November 15th, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    yea I think the minis are 300ish…..they are tiny though. Like 1 steak tiny

  7. Bret The Hitman November 15th, 2013 at 2:25 pm

    Good for an apartment patio for a bachelor pad.

  8. Bret The Hitman November 15th, 2013 at 2:25 pm

    Dinner for two.

  9. blake November 15th, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    yea would be great for that or camping or stuff like that. I have the large one and most of the time its plenty big enough for anything I cook…..I’d have gotten the XL if I had to do it over though

  10. Bret The Hitman November 15th, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    BLAKE!

    The professor gal is a trekkie. We’re supposed to watch Netflix episodes for our next date. It involves other things, and things are getting better and better but I won’t comment on those other things.

  11. blake November 15th, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    linville gorge is on fire…..like 3,000 acres on fire…..it’s only 40% contained. Can you smell the smoke in Asheville bret?

  12. Bret The Hitman November 15th, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    The XL is like $800 or $1200

  13. blake November 15th, 2013 at 2:28 pm

    a trekkie…..wow …..if she looks like that chick on big bang theory…..keeper

  14. blake November 15th, 2013 at 2:28 pm

    the XL is probably more like 1200, the large was around 800

  15. Bret The Hitman November 15th, 2013 at 2:28 pm

    Blake,

    Is it a planned fire? I think I remember them saying something about it. I can’t smell the smoke yet where I’m at.

  16. Bret The Hitman November 15th, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    Blake,

    She looks like a brainy librarian, very petite and beneath the brains is pure impulse or so she suggests.

  17. jacksquat November 15th, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    I know if they should spend 4+ mil on a loogy. They haven’t had much luck lately spending on lefty reliever free agents. It seems to be the kiss of death actually.

  18. RhapsodyInBlue November 15th, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    5 or 6 local dealers I’m shopping for good prices.

    Medium BGE retails for about 625. new.

  19. blake November 15th, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    nah not a planned fire…..they are having trouble containing it probably because it’s impossible to get anything in there to fight it with.

  20. blake November 15th, 2013 at 2:34 pm

    rhapsody,
    I have a large and it fits my needs pretty well…..I guess it depends on how much you cook. I will say though that I thought a large would be plenty enough but after you start cooking on it you find yourself cooking more and more on it and now I wish I’d have just gotten the XL……I can fit pretty much any meat on the Large but sometimes I’d like to have more space for other stuff I wanted to cook at the same time…..corn, squash etc…..

  21. Bret The Hitman November 15th, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    Blake,

    What is the fuel source on the egg?

  22. RhapsodyInBlue November 15th, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    Thanks.

    Thinking maybe I should bump up to large.

  23. blake November 15th, 2013 at 2:40 pm

    “What is the fuel source on the egg?”

    lump charcoal and wood……I smoked some ribs the other day for 5 hours with it 30 degrees outside and it held 250 degrees the whole time without me touching it…..the ceramic is so thick on those things that weather really doesn’t affect it that much

  24. Ys Guy November 15th, 2013 at 2:40 pm

    i dont like the “manager’s challenge’ aspect of this rules change, but otherwise, while overdue, this is GREAT!

    congrats to the commishioner’s office, the mlbpa and the umps for getting together to make the game better.

    i especially like that the decision on replays is going to be taken out of the umpires on the field. Having the reviewer have the final decision and keeping the umps on the field during reviews is excellent.

    i expect there could be some trouble working out the communications from a remote location but by having them all subject to review at the same site will bring consistency to the review decisions.

  25. Bret The Hitman November 15th, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    Could it perform with strictly wood?

  26. Russell Munson November 15th, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    Is a mini Big Egg really a Big Egg?

  27. Ys Guy November 15th, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    Is a jumbo shrimp reallly jumbo?

  28. blake November 15th, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    “Could it perform with strictly wood?”

    uhm it probably could but it’s really designed for charcoal as a base and then wood just to add the smoke flavor…..the charcoal I use is organic 100% hardwood chunks with no lighter fluid or anything like that in it and that’s whats recommended…..you really don’t want to use lighter fluid on it because it’ll soak into the ceramic and you’ll be tasting it in the food.

    Rhapsody,

    one other thing I’ll tell ya…..they make tons of accessorries (eggsessories) for them but the 1 pretty much essential one is the plate setter….it’s a rip off because I think it should come with it but you really need it or you can’t cook with indirect heat on it and that’s what you need to do long cooks or anything pretty much other than steaks and burgers etc. I’d recommend getting that and also an electric fire starter……really speeds up starting the fire.

  29. tomingeorgia November 15th, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    blake,
    I use fatwood as a starter.

  30. UnKnown November 15th, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    One less thing now for everyone to whine and complain about. One less excuse to use in the games the Yankees lose.

    Thankfully, there will still be balls and strikes to kvetch about. :lol:

    It would be sad if it ever came down to actually having to admit that the Yankees are just not good enough. That would be a real travesty… :grin:

  31. blake November 15th, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    tom,
    you use charcoal at all or you total stick burner?

  32. tomingeorgia November 15th, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    blake,
    No, like you, the base is charcoal and the wood is for smoke. I like to use cherry, apple (really, any fruit wood), or hickory, pecan and mesquite (which is the only kind I have to buy). My next project: Pastrami! Only takes a month or so to do right.

  33. tomingeorgia November 15th, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    blake,
    Here’s what I’m going to try:
    http://www.foodnetwork.com/rec.....index.html

  34. blake November 15th, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    tom,

    I figured you’d like that peach wood down there in GA ;) I like pecan and cherry a lot……I probably use those the most. Pastrami is so good.

  35. mick November 15th, 2013 at 3:30 pm

    Pastrami is so good.
    ==================
    Don’t you have a Ben’s Deli down there?

  36. blake November 15th, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    tom,

    I like the cook time of 511 hours!

  37. mick November 15th, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    Is that Mayor Rob Ford that Girardi is jawing with above?

  38. blake November 15th, 2013 at 3:32 pm

    we have Jason’s deli….no Ben’s deli that I know of

  39. mick November 15th, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    A few basics of the new replay rules

    • Each manager will have a maximum two challenges per game.

    • If a challenge is upheld, it won’t count against a manager’s limit.
    ======================
    If it’s only 2 per game but he get’s them both right, then he still has 2, right?

    He could challenge every inning, get each one right, and still have 2 left, right?

  40. mick November 15th, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    we have Jason’s deli….no Ben’s deli that I know of
    ================
    any bagel stores?

  41. joeman November 15th, 2013 at 3:40 pm

    of course rumors but that’s all there is right now..NYYchecking in on Nathan. God move because I doubt DRob can get the job done

  42. joeman November 15th, 2013 at 3:40 pm

    good..sorry

  43. sammiejohnson November 15th, 2013 at 3:45 pm

    “He could challenge every inning, get each one right, and still have 2 left, right?”

    Yes.

    I do not really like the challenge system as a whole, but if they are going to use it then this the way to do it. If a manager challenges and is right and the umpire was wrong, why should the manager be punished by losing one of his challenges.

  44. tomingeorgia November 15th, 2013 at 3:46 pm

    blake,
    I have old hickory and pecan in my backyard, and there’s always windfall, which I collect. Pear is easy to get, because fools still plant Callery and Cleveland ornamental pear trees. Apple and peach trees are scarce around here, but plentiful forty or fifty miles from here, and I have a deal with a couple of guys to call me when they cut one down or do heavy pruning. Ah, the rural life.

  45. mick November 15th, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    The umps need these checks and balances as they no doubt will have a right-wrong % which can be easily seen by all.

    Grading the umps might sharpen their games.

  46. mick November 15th, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    why should the manager be punished by losing one of his challenges.
    =================
    The Mgr should be right 99% of the time as they ,no doubt ,will have a person (new position?)assigned to a tv close to the Mgr, or some sort of headphone situation, where the result of the call will be evident in a split second to be relayed .

  47. MTU November 15th, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    Bret-

    Big Al wanted me to let you know that he has the following camera for sale in like new condition:

    FUJI HS20 EXR

    He paid over $500 for it and is asking just $350.

  48. Russell Munson November 15th, 2013 at 3:57 pm

    “God move because I doubt DRob can get the job done”

    Yeah, paying $10 million or more for a proven closer with a $189 million payroll is a really good move.

  49. trisha - true pinstriped blue November 15th, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    Bud the Crud is really moving mountains now that he’s getting ready to exit. CALCULATING LOSER.

  50. trisha - true pinstriped blue November 15th, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    Get a commissioner in there who will institute electronic balls and strikes calls and you’ll actually be close to being able to believe stats at the end of a season.

  51. trisha - true pinstriped blue November 15th, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    “One issue before the arbitrator is whether the specific language and remedies of the JDA supercede the more general provisions of the CBA. So we can’t be sure MLB’s decision to proceed on both will fly.

    That’s all part of the fun.”

    Wave, as I remember, there isn’t a lot of overlap in the charges so I don’t think there’s going to be any controversy over which to apply.

  52. trisha - true pinstriped blue November 15th, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    So what are chances we’re getting Choo? On a scale of 1-10, with 10 being in the bag.

  53. joeman November 15th, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    wouldn’t worry about that 189 because that won’t happen

  54. austinmac November 15th, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    Trisha,

    I would say 3 because I think they will principally focus and spend the big money on your favorite, pitching.

  55. blake November 15th, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    Tom,
    I just use chunks and chips pretty much…..not much room for whole logs in the ole egg. I’d like to have an offset wood burner but I just don’t have much need for one….it’d be a toy more or less.

  56. trisha - true pinstriped blue November 15th, 2013 at 4:25 pm

    Austin, I was talking to a guy today who’s a big Yankee fan and he was saying that the Yankees should be able to field a winning team and stay below the cap and if they do they’ll be able to spend all kinds of money without penalty the next year. (He said something about 17%. This tells you that I have not paid any attention to the fine points of the cap, and so didn’t understand exactly what he meant about the 17%, etc.)

  57. trisha - true pinstriped blue November 15th, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    “wouldn’t worry about that 189 because that won’t happen”

    Thinking the same thing, although that guy I was talking to thinks we should be able to stay under the 189.

  58. Against All Odds November 15th, 2013 at 4:31 pm

    joeman November 15th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
    of course rumors but that’s all there is right now..NYYchecking in on Nathan. God move

    ————————–

    Do they really need another old player

    In regards to Drob can he fail as the closer before we know he can’t do it. That’s not specifically directed towards you just in general. A section of fans seem to have the book written on him already.

  59. tomingeorgia November 15th, 2013 at 4:35 pm

    blake,
    If i get branches, I whack them up with a hatchet, if I get a whole tree, I’ll split it, then whack it. My rig can’t hold logs, either.

  60. trisha - true pinstriped blue November 15th, 2013 at 4:39 pm

    I’m all for trying DRob. I like that he has ice water in his veins.

  61. pete2 November 15th, 2013 at 5:55 pm

    Who controls what video is sent to MLB for review. The home team? There are multiple cameras showing angles, if one angle is unfavorable to the home team, maybe it does not get sent. Especially possible in cases where teams own the station broadcasting the game. I have seen the Red Sox NESN not show certain angles when there is a HR review. If the umps saw the same video, no idea what they see, they had to uphold the decision on the field because the angles shown were inconclusive. But other angles would have given a better look.

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