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Teixeira hoping to take batting practice in early January

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 26, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

If you missed last night’s Mark Teixeira interview on YES Network, you can watch a portion of it in the video above, and you can watch a little more by following this link. If you’re not really feeling up to following links or clicking a play button this morning, let’s just start the day with this short quote from last night’s Hot Stove show:

“I want to be swinging full-speed in January,” Teixeira said.

It’s not much of a comment, but it’s a pretty strong reminder that Teixeira is very much in the middle of a rehab process right now. He’s out of the cast, and it’s been almost six months since surgery, but his wrist is still in a stage of strengthening and flexibility. Teixiera said he’s doing “really slow” swinging, but that’s more of a range of motion exercise. He’s not ready to hit.

This is the basic plan that Teixeira laid out on last night’s YES broadcast:

1. Strengthening and flexibility exercises through December.
2. Beginning tee and pitching machine work on January 1.
3. By early February, hitting off a 90-mph machine with authority.
4. Full everyday workouts when spring training opens, but no games in the first week of exhibitions.
5. Begin playing Grapefruit League games in early March.

“I want to slowly build into live batting practice, simulated games, and then start playing games,” Teixeira said.

His biggest test, Teixeira said, will be inside fastballs. He has to make sure he can get the barrel of the bat in there and be able to turn on a pitch like that. Jack Curry pointed out that teams might test Teixeira by going inside to try to expose that wrist if it’s a weakness.

“Please come on in there,” Teixeira said. “I love it when guys try to come in and I can use that short porch at Yankee Stadium.”

Once the season starts, Teixeira’s routine will be slightly different with fewer pregame swings and a no more swings with a weighted bat. There’s still an adjustment that’s taking place, and make no mistake, the Yankees desperately need it to work.

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315 Responses to “Teixeira hoping to take batting practice in early January”

  1. wanzies222 November 26th, 2013 at 9:04 am

    Repost:

    Morning…

    MTU – good to hear that surgery went well…best for a healthy recovery.

    Interesting start to the OS, but at this point every team is interested in every FA. The market will settle soon. Some guys will sign early and the expectation is for Beltran to get done soon. That should help build momentum.

    You like whispers, so one of them has to do with remaking the OF, including adding Beltran and one of Ellsbury and Granderson and moving Gardner and Ichiro. Stay tuned.

  2. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 9:06 am

    Hopefully, he can at least return to full big, hairy mode.

    30 or so dingers and 100 ribbies.

    :)

  3. blake November 26th, 2013 at 9:08 am

    blake says:
    November 26, 2013 at 9:04 am
    If the yanks did get Ellsbury then Id kick Gardner over to LF and try to get Granderson or Beltran still to play RF…..sori becomes the primary DH and platoon partner for Gardner .

    Outfield D would be sick…..still woukd rather have Choo

  4. blake November 26th, 2013 at 9:09 am

    Everything tex says irritates me …..it’s a problem I need to work on

  5. jacksquat November 26th, 2013 at 9:10 am

    Could have Gardner LF Ellsbury CF Choo RF Soriano DH

  6. Yankee Trader November 26th, 2013 at 9:10 am

    Yankee Trader November 26th, 2013 at 9:07 am
    Just released. Cano on the clock. TICK TOCK:

    http://itsaboutthemoney.net/ar.....the-clock/

    As for the budget, the legitimacy of that wiggle room ceiling can be brought into question. Assuming A-Rod’s suspension is upheld, the Yankees will have over $72 million to work with. Their version of Project 189 already includes $17 million for McCann and if they added Beltran and Masahiro Tanaka, their next 2 biggest non-Cano targets, for $15 million and $10 million AAV respectively, that still leaves them with $30 million to spend. They could easily offer more money to Cano, but why do that when you don’t have to and why do it when it hinders your ability to address the rest of the roster holes?

  7. blake November 26th, 2013 at 9:12 am

    jacksquat says:
    November 26, 2013 at 9:10 am
    Could have Gardner LF Ellsbury CF Choo RF Soriano DH

    Hey now were talking

  8. CCBiggs November 26th, 2013 at 9:12 am

    I had been assuming that Tex would be fine in 2014, but I guess he has to be considered a question mark to some degree. So Yanks have uncertainties at 1B (Tex), 2B (Cano’s free agency), SS (Jeter’s ankle and age), 3B (Arod’s suspension and hip), LF (Granderson likely gone), LF (Wells/Inchiro platoon is very questionable), and multiple slots in the starting rotation. Good grief!!!!

  9. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 9:12 am

    Steve-

    Thanks so much for the kind words. Much appreciated.

    I do like whispers.

    And that is an interesting one.

    If they did that you’d think the preference would be Ellsbury and Beltran.

    They could also just extend GGBG and do almost the same for less money.

    I’m seeing Beltran. The other 2 not so much. But who knows ?

    I really want to secure Kuroda this week. I hope that happens.

    Tanaka would then be a must get IMO when he becomes available.

  10. blake November 26th, 2013 at 9:13 am

    That 72 number is high to me…..they need to show their work

  11. Yankee Trader November 26th, 2013 at 9:13 am

    Blake

    Hopefully the Yankees will have a Plan B, to backup Teixeira. Mark Reynolds?

  12. blake November 26th, 2013 at 9:14 am

    MTU,
    Is this the same issue your pup had before?

  13. Ys Guy November 26th, 2013 at 9:14 am

    with tex and jeter rehabbing, i dont see them signing more than one OF. they need that dh spot.

  14. Yankee Trader November 26th, 2013 at 9:14 am

    Blake

    Read the article

  15. blake November 26th, 2013 at 9:15 am

    “Blake

    Hopefully the Yankees will have a Plan B, to backup Teixeira. Mark Reynolds?”

    Lyle Overbay to the front please…..Lyle Overbay to the front

  16. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 9:15 am

    I do not like the idea of having an all left-handed hitting OF.

    Throw Kemp in there instead.

    :)

  17. Ys Guy November 26th, 2013 at 9:16 am

    what they need is someone who can play some 1b, some 3b and some LF.

  18. wanzies222 November 26th, 2013 at 9:16 am

    Adding two OF makes some sense from a cost standpoint if you’re adding/subtracting something like this (names and numbers for illustration purposes, not necessary to critique the choices….):

    2014
    Granderson +15
    Gardner -4
    Ichiro -6.5
    Wells – 0

    Net +4.5

    2015

    Granderson +15
    Gardner (if he stayed) -10

    Net +5

    The X factor is the use of the AAAA players.

  19. blake November 26th, 2013 at 9:18 am

    Trader,
    I did….they didn’t tell how they got to the 72 million number they say the yanks have to spend ….even if Alex is suspended all season in getting closer to 60. Maybe they didn’t factor in the 12-13 million dollar benefits

  20. Yankee Trader November 26th, 2013 at 9:18 am

    They also need a lefty in the pen. O’Flaherty, or will they go with Cabral.

  21. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 9:18 am

    Blake-

    He has had 2 separate issue which are not related.

    The reaction to the rabies shot which is mostly under control, and the eye issue which is mainly genetic in nature.

    The eye has been a problem in the past but we thought we had it licked.

    Unfortunately, we did not.

    Ironic that his name is “Lucky”.

    Thanks for asking.

  22. blake November 26th, 2013 at 9:19 am

    I don’t see them being able to get enough for Gardner to warrant trading him…..maybe last year but he’s a FA to be now

  23. blake November 26th, 2013 at 9:21 am

    MTU,
    Sorry to hear it….as you know my dog went totally blind over night last year with no warning whatsoever…..it was tough but he’s adjusted….I hope his/her vision isn’t affected

  24. wanzies222 November 26th, 2013 at 9:22 am

    blake -

    Gardner would have to be packaged, to be sure, but I think more to the point is, is he your long-term CF? Not sure about that.

  25. Yankee Trader November 26th, 2013 at 9:22 am

    Blake

    I was interested on your take from the article, that the Yankees are trying to fix some of their major holes before the winter meetings and that the money might not be there for Cano if he waits too long.

  26. blake November 26th, 2013 at 9:24 am

    I was interested on your take from the article, that the Yankees are trying to fix some of their major holes before the winter meetings and that the money might not be there for Cano if he waits too long.@

    I think they are bluffing and trying to create leverage

  27. Ys Guy November 26th, 2013 at 9:25 am

    i dont buy the ‘yankees running out of money before cano signs’ BS for a second.

  28. UpState November 26th, 2013 at 9:25 am

    Ellsbury:

    Will likely end up in Seattle.

    Montero to protect him in the lineup.

  29. blake November 26th, 2013 at 9:27 am

    “Gardner would have to be packaged, to be sure, but I think more to the point is, is he your long-term CF? Not sure about that.”

    No he’s not …I’m just not sure he’d bring more trade value than he’d have for the yanks in 2014…..now if you could package him for a SS then ok…..but you’d almost have to sign Ellsbury then because they’d need a CFer for this year

  30. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 9:27 am

    Blake-

    Yes. I was saddened to hear about your dog.

    His vision will definitely be affected since they removed the diseased eye yesterday.

    But I’m told that dogs adjust well to having only 1 good eye.

    Except for their depth perception which of course would be affected.

    Just have to hope and pray that the other eye stays healthy.

    We will have to be extra vigilant.

    Glad to hear the little Blake’s are feeling better.

    :)

  31. blake November 26th, 2013 at 9:27 am

    The yanks are just trying to flush cano out…..it’s all talk

  32. UpState November 26th, 2013 at 9:28 am

    I guess Mr. Chavez didn’t like the past year “playing for his hometown team” ?

    Like the guy – wish him luck – but not a NYY answer.

  33. blake November 26th, 2013 at 9:29 am

    MTU,
    Honestly my dog can’t see anything at all and so long as your in our house or somewhere he’s familiar with you’d never even know he was blind……dogs are incredible…..they map the house out by memory and smell and as long as you don’t move stuff they can get around almost like normal. It’s funny we removed our coffee table from our living room a few weeks ago and he still walks around it wen though it’s not there

  34. UpState November 26th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    MTU:

    Good luck with the dog !

    ‘Other’ eye will be fine – vet would’ve shown overwhelming concern if it was to be an issue.

    The little guy will be fine !

  35. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    Blake-

    If they would move on Infante it would no longer be just a bluff.

    They could use him anyway.

    He isn’t overly expensive.

    I’d love to see them do it.

    He can play 2b/3b/ and SS in a pinch.

    That should cause Cano’s team to pucker and still leave open the option to sign him.

    ;)

  36. Yankee Trader November 26th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    What would it take to get a young 3rd baseman, not named Manny Machado?

  37. Ys Guy November 26th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    “Montero to protect him in the lineup.”
    ========================================
    ells gonna bat 7th?

    the last time montero was in the mariner’s lineup, he was batting 8th.

  38. Yankee Trader November 26th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    Infante also played the outfield corners, as a Brave- super utility type, but looking for a full time job.

  39. UpState November 26th, 2013 at 9:33 am

    Yankee Trader November 26th, 2013 at 9:31 am
    What would it take to get a young 3rd baseman, not named Manny Machado?
    =================

    What does KT at AZ need for his team to let the Davidson kid go ?

  40. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 9:33 am

    Thanks guys.

    Blake-

    That is super interesting about the “brain mapping via smell”.

    Obviously the problem comes in if you “add” rather than “remove”.

    ;)

  41. blake November 26th, 2013 at 9:34 am

    MTU,

    I like infante …..he could play 3 B

  42. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 9:35 am

    We are an excellent match with the D’backs.

    Cashman should have been on the horn like yesterday to his buddy on Gregorius, Owings, and/or Davidson.

    Towers owes us.

    ;)

  43. blake November 26th, 2013 at 9:36 am

    Yea if you add new furniture or move things around it messes him up but he readjusts pretty fast

  44. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 9:36 am

    I love Mexican food.

    And because I do.

    I want the whole Enchilada.

    ;)

  45. Ys Guy November 26th, 2013 at 9:36 am

    maybe you see ellsbury batting in the middle of the order in tacoma, where montero was playing when he got suspended….

  46. UpState November 26th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    Montero got suspended ?
    Thought he got injured.

  47. Yankee Trader November 26th, 2013 at 9:38 am

    UpState-

    I asked that question yesterday. It seemed that it would take more for Davidson, then to get Owings and move him to 3rd until Jeter retires. Any other possible 3rd basemen who could be available, for the Yankees who have little to trade in major league ready players, other than some bullpen help?

  48. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 9:39 am

    Blake-

    It will make Cano’s team pucker.

    If they meet this week I hope Hal cuts right to the chase.

    There are good options out there and there is no need to drag this negotiation out.

    Hit ‘em with your best shot. Make it time sensitive, and if they won’t budge move on quickly to plan B.

    ;)

  49. wanzies222 November 26th, 2013 at 9:39 am

    blake -

    Gardner does have a few good matches out there, so a value for value trade is not out of the question.

    The Reds would love to have him as a one-year $4M patch to Hamilton. If Hamilton can’t make it, Gardner becomes part of their long-term answer. Bailey coming the other way would make sense. Pieces +/- would be needed.

    Tigers are a match as well.

  50. wanzies222 November 26th, 2013 at 9:40 am

    YT -

    Cubs have always been a good match. They need 2015-ready SP and are loaded in the INF.

  51. UpState November 26th, 2013 at 9:40 am

    The Cubs have a few prospects ‘clogged’ at that position.
    Mike Olt.
    Might be a low risk type of acquisition – seeing that the Cubs have prospects there that they apparently like better….

  52. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    Steve-

    What do get on the return from the Tigers ?

  53. blake November 26th, 2013 at 9:42 am

    Yea the problem with trading Gardner though is currently he’s the Yanks only CF too…..you’d pretty much have to sign Ellsbury first

  54. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 9:42 am

    KC used to love GGBG too.

    Moustakas ?

  55. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 9:43 am

    Blake-

    Or Grandy.

    ;)

  56. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 9:43 am

    Or Kemp.

    ;)

  57. Ys Guy November 26th, 2013 at 9:43 am

    montero was injured and in the minors when he accepted the 50 game suspension from the biogenesis investigation.

  58. Tackelberry November 26th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    Should Yanks pounce on Garrett Jones?

  59. wanzies222 November 26th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    MTU -

    I’m sure they’d let Jackson go…lol.

    Seriously, probably pitching, maybe Porcello if you added some LHRP.

  60. UpState November 26th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    Ys Guy November 26th, 2013 at 9:32 am
    “Montero to protect him in the lineup.”
    ========================================
    ells gonna bat 7th?

    the last time montero was in the mariner’s lineup, he was batting 8th.
    ———————————————

    It was more of a ‘wise-guy’ comment on the “Where’s Waldo ?” whereabouts of the continuously highly touted catcher…

    Run, Forrest, run !

  61. pkyankfan69 November 26th, 2013 at 9:45 am

    I’ve seen no connection at all between him and the Yankees but to me Corey Hart might make some sense for the Yanks as a right handed DH / back up to Tex… He missed all of last year following knee surgery (his second on that knee) so there is certainly risk but he would also likely come very discounted. I’d rather see him at DH than Wells.

    Hard to discount what he did from 2010 – 2012:

    .283/.340/.525/.865
    .285/.356/.510/.866
    .270/.334/.507 /.841

  62. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 9:45 am

    Crapstein is difficult to deal with.

    Castro or Olt ?

  63. blake November 26th, 2013 at 9:45 am

    I really want Elvis….young, great defender, I think bat will progress and he likes duck dynasty

  64. wanzies222 November 26th, 2013 at 9:45 am

    blake -

    Trading Gardner assumes a new CF, obviously. But as much as the FO loves Gardner, it’s biz.

  65. blake November 26th, 2013 at 9:46 am

    Tackelberry says:
    November 26, 2013 at 9:44 am
    Should Yanks pounce on Garrett Jones?

    Depends on the money but he’d be nice to have when Tex gets hurt

  66. Ys Guy November 26th, 2013 at 9:47 am

    upstate, similarly it was just a gratuitous dig at montero.

  67. wanzies222 November 26th, 2013 at 9:47 am

    MTU -

    If you’re after a 3B from the Cubs, they would move Olt. Dropped off last year, so you’d it would depend on the pitching that went west.

  68. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 9:47 am

    Steve-

    We don’t need Porcello and who wants to add a flip to the deal.

    We have plenty of #4/5 candidates.

    He would not negate the need for Kuroda and Tanaka.

    No chance of replacing what Nova can do.

  69. blake November 26th, 2013 at 9:48 am

    Hey if you can sign Jacoby and trade Gardner for a SS….thumbs up

  70. wanzies222 November 26th, 2013 at 9:48 am

    blake -

    Jones likely gets a MLB job some place. Yanks will probably wait and see if anybody grabs him; if not, see if he’ll take a minor league gig.

  71. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    Olt isn’t particularly exciting anymore.

    Rather have Castro myself.

    Or deal w the Snakes.

  72. wanzies222 November 26th, 2013 at 9:50 am

    MTU -

    Not sure I agree.. pitching is always useful. Every team needs 7-8 each season, and if you’re moving some to the Cubs, it’s good to have inventory.

  73. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 9:51 am

    I’d also get Sizemore into the system on a MiLB deal if he’d take it.

    He may bounce back after his microfracture surgery. Beltran did.

    Little to lose. Guy was a stud.

    ;)

  74. blake November 26th, 2013 at 9:52 am

    Id do a minor league deal for Jonesy….problem not enough need to tie up a roster spot though ….. Girardi of course is dying for another Jonesy

  75. Ys Guy November 26th, 2013 at 9:53 am

    olt has a sub .200 avg in about 420 aaa at-bats. anybody concerned about this?

  76. blake November 26th, 2013 at 9:54 am

    So what’ll be Sterlings fall for McCann? There it goes….it’s a Mac attack…..McCann Can! It’s a McSlam!!!!!!! He may have sensory overload

  77. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 9:54 am

    Steve-

    CC
    Kuroda
    Nova
    Tanaka
    Phelps
    Warren
    Nuno
    Pineda
    Marshall

    I don’t think we need Porcello except on a flipper.

    No thanks.

  78. blake November 26th, 2013 at 9:54 am

    Ys Guy says:
    November 26, 2013 at 9:53 am
    olt has a sub .200 avg in about 420 aaa at-bats. anybody concerned about this?

    A little sure

  79. BD (Boston Dave) November 26th, 2013 at 9:55 am

    I’ll puke if the Yankees sign Ellsbury.

    It shouldn’t be rocket science to not give a mega-deal to an oft injured aging player whose skill set is based on speed and has only had one season that would warrant the type of deal he’s seeking.

    I mean cmon. We all want the Yankees to get better but the type of deal Ellsbury will get is the type of deal that has gotten the Yankees into the “mess” they’re currently in.

  80. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 9:56 am

    And we have Banuelos and J-Ram in the wings for a halftime call up.

    Nah. Forget Porcello. Dombrowski would be dangling him if he thought he had much value.

    A Hughes type. An underachiever.

  81. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 9:57 am

    ed: wouldn’t. sorry.

  82. wanzies222 November 26th, 2013 at 9:57 am

    MTU -

    I think Gardner to Detroit is moot anyway; not sure they want to improve that club any more.

    I’ve always said that the Reds are the best match for Gardner.

  83. wanzies222 November 26th, 2013 at 9:59 am

    MTU -

    I was simply pointing out the teams that could use Gardner the most… were it me, I wouldn’t send anything to Detroit except more second-level RP to implode….

  84. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 9:59 am

    Steve-

    I think KC might have some interest too.

    At least they used to.

  85. UpState November 26th, 2013 at 9:59 am

    Ys Guy November 26th, 2013 at 9:53 am
    olt has a sub .200 avg in about 420 aaa at-bats. anybody concerned about this?
    ——————————-

    Yeah.

    but for ‘cheap’….you are at least getting a players that was evaluated pretty high…not knowing what issues were the cause of the decline

    evidently had/has pretty good tools somewhere within himself.

  86. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 10:01 am

    Steve-

    I’m down w that.

    I don’t like helping out direct competitors.

    Better off sending him to the NL where he’d hurt us less.

    ;)

  87. UpState November 26th, 2013 at 10:01 am

    Mike Olt:

    …’still’ the #5 player in the Cubs minors

  88. Ys Guy November 26th, 2013 at 10:03 am

    ellsbury did have a very good year this year, when he was healthy. he would help the yankees immediiately. the long-term prospects of his deal would be a different story, but that’s no different than mccann or beltran.

    my problem with him is as i said above, his upgrade over gardner isn’t worth what it would cost.

  89. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 10:04 am

    I don’t think Daniels would have let go of Olt go if he was all that much.

    Beltre won’t be there forever.

  90. wanzies222 November 26th, 2013 at 10:04 am

    Royals possible, but they need a big bat and a 2B (but don’t want to spend any of that Wal-Mart money).

  91. wanzies222 November 26th, 2013 at 10:05 am

    MTU -

    Olt’s not the Cubs’ best 3B prospect, so he’s likely available. Not likely the answer, but available.

  92. blake November 26th, 2013 at 10:06 am

    Olt would be a good but low maybe….he’s blocked everywhere in that org

  93. Ys Guy November 26th, 2013 at 10:14 am

    i think i’d prefer castro over alt. castro has shown flashes that he could be a plus offensively, even with his abysmal 2013 campaign. olt still has to show that at the AAA level.

    The rangers let olt go for a half-season rental(garza). i know they had an overloaded IF, but still that’s not much takeback if they really thought he was a top prospect.

    bp rated olt as the #22 prospect coming into 2013. i’d like to see where he’s r

  94. jacksquat November 26th, 2013 at 10:14 am

    blake November 26th, 2013 at 9:54 am
    So what’ll be Sterlings fall for McCann? There it goes….it’s a Mac attack…..McCann Can! It’s a McSlam!!!!!!! He may have sensory overload

    IT IS HIGH, IT IS FAR… oops, it’s just a McCann of corn.

  95. UpState November 26th, 2013 at 10:16 am

    Stumbled upon :

    Josh Vitters AAA Cubs 24YO 3b

    not ranked / injured alot in 2013 / decent #’s in PCL in 12& 13

    …still 24

  96. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 10:16 am

    Steve-

    rather deal with Towers.

    More options. Friendlier environment.

    ;)

  97. Ys Guy November 26th, 2013 at 10:16 am

    sterling’s first mccann HR call:

    here’s the pitch, it’s hit….toward left i think, outfielders are running around but i can’t see where the ball went, susan the lightings so bad here….and they’re signaling a homer!

  98. wanzies222 November 26th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    YG -

    Either way, doesn’t matter to me. The point was, by upgrading in CF, the FO can fill some of the other holes that it can’t fill internally.

    That’s an added benefit to the upgrade.

  99. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    Decent in the PCL means little.

    It’s a hitters league.

    Anna was even good there.

    ;)

  100. wanzies222 November 26th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    MTU -

    We’ll let Cashman deal with the Cubs, then.

  101. blake November 26th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    “IT IS HIGH, IT IS FAR… oops, it’s just a McCann of corn.”

    It is high , it is far…..wait Suzyn did you see the ball?

  102. Yankee Trader November 26th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    If the Yankees decide to spend another 100M on an outfielder , then go and get Choo, and use Almonte as your occasional sub when Choo is to face a tough lefty.

    I think it’s probably a moot point anyway. Beltran wants to be a Yankee, the Yankees want him, and most likely he’ll be a Yankee.

  103. jacksquat November 26th, 2013 at 10:22 am

    Ellsbury career .288/.343/.407 outside Fenway.

    .285 .352 .431 in 161 PA at YS3.

    Gardner hit .273 .344 .416 last year.

    Maybe not.

  104. UpState November 26th, 2013 at 10:22 am

    Richie Shaffer
    Tampa Bay’s A Ball 3B

    Right / Right
    6′ 3″… 218
    ====================

    Just a LT name to remember & file

  105. Yankee Trader November 26th, 2013 at 10:26 am

    Too bad the Yankees didn’t jump in early last offseason and get Torii Hunter, and not pursue Ichiro.

  106. blake November 26th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    If they add another big contract it should be for Choo

  107. DONNYBROOK November 26th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    Beltran needs frequent days off, especially after the All Star Break, and I mean real days off, not DH Duty. I like Beltran, but the 4th OF’er is gonna get a lot of work, so know what you are buying into. The guy nobody is mentioning is Cory Hart. He is the buy low sleeper.

  108. blake November 26th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    Or Matt kemp

  109. wanzies222 November 26th, 2013 at 10:28 am

    JS -

    If you’re going to compare careers, then compare careers:

    Gardner .268/.352/.381
    Ellsbury .297/.350/.439

    Just sayin’….

  110. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 10:30 am

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    Been advocating it for years.

    Part of the overall strategy to get us back to where we need to be.

    :)

  111. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    Corey Hart has bad knees.

    He just got done with surgery.

    He’s a ??? himself.

  112. wanzies222 November 26th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    MTU -

    You know how I feel about it…

    One of the few assets the FO has is $$. I believe they need to buy assets in order to trade what little they have of their own to better their farm. That gets them to 2017 and a reset.

  113. Yankee Trader November 26th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    Find a third baseman from this list, complete with their 2013 stats, that the Yankees might be able to match up in a trade.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/b.....b/sort/OPS

  114. jacksquat November 26th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    If you are going on career numbers then Teixeira is a .900 OPS player…

  115. DONNYBROOK November 26th, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Oh, and Beltran doesn’t have knee issues?

  116. wanzies222 November 26th, 2013 at 10:33 am

    JS -

    No argument, I was just countering your point (not sure what it was, but doesn’t matter…lol).

  117. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    Steve-

    It is good to have company.

    Three aspects needed for success in no particular order:

    1) Strategic acquisitions of FA’s and Internationals

    1) The Farm

    1) Trades

    All of them should be active parts of well oiled machine.

    We need to get there.

    Maybe they get the motor running this OS.

    I like what I’m seeing so far but I want to see a lot more wheeling and dealing.

  118. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 10:36 am

    They are all 1 because they are co-equal branches.

    :)

  119. wanzies222 November 26th, 2013 at 10:37 am

    YT -

    Do you have another list?

  120. UpState November 26th, 2013 at 10:37 am

    Yankee Trader November 26th, 2013 at 10:31 am
    Find a third baseman from this list, complete with their 2013 stats, that the Yankees might be able to match up in a trade.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/b…..b/sort/OPS
    ===============================

    Great list, THX !

    Target:

    Kyle Seager’s younger brother — Corey

    LAD – SS – A ball

    Will be 20 in 2014

  121. jacksquat November 26th, 2013 at 10:37 am

    My point was that looking at Ellsburys road stats (career or recent) he may not be that much better than Gardner. And his numbers in YS3 are not particularly impressive (4 HR in 161 pa).

  122. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 10:37 am

    It’s like building a good stock portfolio.

    Diversification and stratification of risk.

    ;)

  123. jacksquat November 26th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    I would still like to have Headley, but the Padres want too much.

  124. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    Donny-

    I don’t particularly want Beltran either.

    ;)

  125. wanzies222 November 26th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    JS -

    Fair enough… the discussion began in response to a “whisper” regarding the FO looking for two OF this offseason and moving Gardner for other pieces. In order to do that, another CF would be required.

  126. Yankee Trader November 26th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    Why not just go after 3rd baseman, 26 yo lefty , Kyle Seager. Blake- he’s a former Tarheel!

  127. blake November 26th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Yankee Trader says:
    November 26, 2013 at 10:40 am
    Why not just go after 3rd baseman, 26 yo lefty , Kyle Seager. Blake- he’s a former Tarheel!

    Yea!

  128. wanzies222 November 26th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    YT -

    NYY don’t have anything that the Mariners are looking for.

  129. Yankee Trader November 26th, 2013 at 10:42 am

    Wanzies

    You like the Reds for Gardner. Package for Todd Frazier? Throw in DRob for Aroldis Chapman?

    :)

  130. DONNYBROOK November 26th, 2013 at 10:42 am

    If it comes down to either spending the coin on Cano or Choo, I would go Choo. Also, with Choo you’re gonna have $$$ left over to beef up the team elsewhere and still meet the $189.

  131. UpState November 26th, 2013 at 10:45 am

    Yankee Trader November 26th, 2013 at 10:40 am
    Why not just go after 3rd baseman, 26 yo lefty , Kyle Seager. Blake- he’s a former Tarheel!
    ————————-

    Just trying to ID someone that may be more attainable…

    …but this guy should be ‘red-flagged’ by the NYY; depending on how they handle the SS position….

    (sounds like a potential 3B candidate too)

  132. Yankee Trader November 26th, 2013 at 10:45 am

    MTU would like Phillips in that deal, and I would like Jay Bruce.

    Unfortunately the Yankees don’t have many realistic trade chips.

  133. UpState November 26th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    wanzies222 November 26th, 2013 at 10:41 am
    YT -

    NYY don’t have anything that the Mariners are looking for.

    ==========================

    They love our catchers – don’t they ???

  134. wanzies222 November 26th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    YT -

    Too one sided. Gardner is on a one-year, Frazier would create another hole for the Reds. Chapman? I don’t think so.

    That’s why the obvious answer to Gardner and the Reds, to me, is someone like Bailey, who is going to cost 9-10 in 2014, is one year out from FA, like Gardner. Even nothing else, he lets you move Phelps/Warren/whomever for other pieces.

  135. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    YT-

    If the Yankees want Phillips they have what is needed to get him.

    He would mostly be a salary dump.

    ;)

  136. DONNYBROOK November 26th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    At this point in his career, Gardner is All he is gonna be, and you are Now looking at how many years of control. He has trade value, but it is minimal. To mention Frazier and Chapman in a trade involving Gardner as a Key piece back from the Yanks is folly.

  137. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    Our assets are mainly pitching and catching.

    Anyone who needs a cost controlled young C or relievers in particular should be ringing up Cashman forthwith.

    Time to walk one Mop.

    Be back.

    :)

  138. wanzies222 November 26th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    DB -

    Agreed. Hence, the match would have to come from a team with a similar contract situation and an escalating salary problem. Gardner’s advantage is his low 2014 salary.

  139. Yankee Trader November 26th, 2013 at 10:59 am

    DB and Wanzies

    That’s why I included the :) face when mentioning Bruce and Chapman. If the Yankees front office had done their due diligence , Chapman could have been a Yankee.

  140. Yankee Trader November 26th, 2013 at 11:05 am

    Time to go. Everyone have a great day.

    Until later.

  141. luis November 26th, 2013 at 11:07 am

    Good morning still,

    Steve,

    A couple of thoughts:

    1) Trading Gardner means getting Elsbury on a contract that for me is a disaster waiting to happen. I view his potential contract as another Crawford like blunder IMO. Getting similar production but at several times the cost of Gardner.

    2) In the event that it is Bailey the pitcher we get in exchange. This either means we are out on Tanaka, unless we flip him for another need ( a 3 team trade? ) Or we trade Phelps in a package for another need, since he is very well liked in the market as Pat M has suggested. Frankly, I would like to keep Phelps. He is cost controlled and cheap.

    I rather keep Gardner and wait and see the development of our OF prospects first. Maybe at the trade line in July?

  142. trisha - true pinstriped blue November 26th, 2013 at 11:13 am

    I think back on all the negative talk about the front office, and how people were just praying that the Steinbrenner boys would sell the Yankees, speculating that they didn’t care about winning, speculating that they were actually getting ready to sell, deciding that they didn’t know what they were doing, deciding that they weren’t going to do anything to improve the team, deciding that all they cared about was raking in the $$$.

    Yes, so far it’s McCann, but the mill is heavy with talk about Beltran and Tanaka, and that’s for starters.

    I’ve always belonged to the mick school of thought and that is don’t get to far ahead of yourselves with wild imaginings. And maybe just learn to take people at their word instead of reading between lines that don’t exist. Hank said a while ago now that 189 was not etched in stone and that if it took more to put a championship-caliber team on the field, then they’d do what they had to.

    I’m really excited to see the moves they are apparently at least contemplating, and I’ve never doubted that they would do what they needed to in order to fulfill what they promised.

    I never believed that the Steinbrenners were willing to tarnish what their dad helped to build, and maybe they just needed a little greening on how to run the Yankees. In spite of it all, the Yankees continue to make the playoffs except for this year, and if the injuries didn’t pile up, they would have been there this year also. Nobody can know whether their stars are going to have career years or somehow have unpredictable years. Talk to the 2011 Sux about that.

    All the forecasts of doom and gloom and “2014 will be a bust no matter what because of what they didn’t do in 2010″ – I still don’t have a pulse on exactly what they should have done in the eyes of the authors of that comment – may be swept away with a signing here, a trade there, and good years from players who have the talent and capacity to put in good years.

    Here’s to supporting the front office and not spinning off into some netherworld of your own making when things don’t gel the way you want them to. As the saying goes, there’s many a slip between the cup and the lip.

    ***********

    And though I risk being accused of heresy here by the great decider of what players are still going to be exquisite 10 years from now, if Robby wants to go elsewhere and isn’t willing to accept whatever is considered a reasonable contract from the Yankees, I will be disappointed but I’ll survive – and so will the Yankees. There are other 2B out there who know how to play second and do a decent job. I love Robby but I never tether myself to any player to the extent that I flip out and lose a whole year of my life – and also help others to lose a year in theirs because I dump my distraught continually on the forum – if the player goes elsewhere. I love Robby but I love the Yankees more. We’ve seen the result of contracts overbloated in years, and the result is ugly. Posters have criticized the Yankees for handing out those contracts, and I totally agree. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Be reasonable, but don’t be foolish. Stop giving out contracts with unrealistic dreaminess attached to them. NOBODY can say what Robby’s playing is going to be 7 years from now, and it actually sounds demented to me to hear someone absolutely assure the forum that he will be phenomenal 7 years from now.

  143. Mottsx November 26th, 2013 at 11:15 am

    Question… I’m sure this has been answered already. However, asking again.

    Yankees lost their 18th pick with McCann.. say Granderson signs with Baltimore who has the 17th pick and the Yankees signs Ellsbury. Would they lose that 17th pick that was gained or a 2nd round pick?

  144. blake November 26th, 2013 at 11:15 am

    According to the fancy pitch framing stats
    ….McCann was the 5th best in baseball last year. Sadly Stewie didn’t make the list.

  145. blake November 26th, 2013 at 11:18 am

    Mottsx says:
    November 26, 2013 at 11:15 am
    Question… I’m sure this has been answered already. However, asking again.

    Yankees lost their 18th pick with McCann.. say Granderson signs with Baltimore who has the 17th pick and the Yankees signs Ellsbury. Would they lose that 17th pick that was gained or a 2nd round pick?

    The Yankees wouldn’t get Baltimores pick anymore…..that’s the old CBA….under the new agreement the draft pick just disappears and the draft is condensed a pick…..so the Braves don’t get the Yankees pick for McCann…..the 18th pick just goes away all together and the Braves will get a comp pick at the end of the first round

  146. luis November 26th, 2013 at 11:18 am

    As far as I know…Baltimore loses the pick but we don’t get it… We get a supplemmental pick for Granderson and lose the second round pick for Elsbury

  147. luis November 26th, 2013 at 11:27 am

    Steve,

    Another thing… I tried the wrist thing and you are right the swing plane goes up… Perhaps you are on to something with Tex… Although, do you think his wrist has been bothering for three years?

  148. jacksquat November 26th, 2013 at 11:28 am

    They don’t get the pick of the team that signs Granderson, they get a supplemental/sandwich pick between the 1st and 2nd rounds.

    Any further signings of free agents with QO’s attached result in the loss of the next highest pick for the Yankees.

  149. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 11:30 am

    The Suxers tried to use Ross to lure McCann to Boston.

    They were former team mates.

    Glad it didn’t work.

    ;)

  150. luis November 26th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    JS,

    So if the Yankees sign Elsbury for instance they lose the supplemental pick instead of the 2nd round pick?

  151. blake November 26th, 2013 at 11:35 am

    They would lose their 2nd rounder and not the supplemental pick they’d get if Granderson leaves to my knowledge

  152. wanzies222 November 26th, 2013 at 11:37 am

    Luis -

    The discussion regarding Ellsbury was more in response to a “whisper” that the FO was looking at two OF this OS and then trading Gardner while he still had perceived value. His production isn’t bad based on his salary of $4M in 2014. Not so much beyond that.

    Is Ellsbury’s contract a potential albatross? Perhaps.

    And, to me, it’s pretty obvious that Teixeira has had wrist issues for some time. Give a listen to the YES Hot Stove of last night. Situations like his is why many coaches won’t allow weighted bats anymore. They put unrealistic strain on fragile joints, like wrists, without any perceptible benefit, other than making the player feel like the bat is lighter and quicker (and of course it is not).

  153. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 11:37 am

    Trisha-

    All that you have stated above about Hal I have been guilty of. I throw myself on the mercy of the Court kind Madame.

    And as soon as Hal blows thru 189 I will eat a meal of crow and humble pie once again.

    For the umpteenth time in my Life.

    And make my formal apology in appropriately groveling terms.

    That said, word to the wise though from a friend.

    You must always allow your opponents the opportunity to save face.

    Lest that bad Karma you often speak about redound to you.

    Hope you are staying warm and dry up there.

    ;)

  154. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 11:43 am

    Chicken alert ——–>

  155. randy l. November 26th, 2013 at 11:49 am

    if the yankees are supposedly going to be spending all this money on offensive players, what’s left over for the three open spots in the rotation?

    do we get a complete team here or they going to weaken one area to strengthen another area?

    if this were an election, only 1% of the vote is in. there’s still no telling what team hal and randy levine are going to put together for 2014.

    they did totally ef up last year and lose about 50 million dollars by not making the playoffs and by ticket sales reductions of fielding an uninspiring team.

    i’d say that if that didn’t get their attention nothing would, however the same fools who let last year happen are now going to right the ship ?

    ok, let’s see them do it. ill believe it when i see it.

  156. MTU November 26th, 2013 at 11:55 am

    Randy-

    As in Austinmac’s case I don’t blame you one iota for your skepticism. I’ve been there. Still am to an extent.

    It is only my innate optimism and fatigue with tire patching that causes me to hope the message has
    been received.

    I am confident enough that I am preparing my meal of warmed over crow and humble pie as I await the doors being blown off of 189.

    When that happens I will do 2 things :

    I give an appropriately groveling apology to Hal.

    And then I will continue my celebration.

    :)

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