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LoHud Yankees chat begins at noon

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 27, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

 

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  1. Jerkface November 27th, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    I don’t necessarily think this a bad deal for the Yankees, but I think McCann is being a little overestimated here. To me, he’s Nick Swisher’s offense at catcher. That has significant value until he’s not a catcher. Then it’s just Nick Swisher’s bat, and that’s not a $17M commodity. I can see the last 2 years of the deal being iffy. I wasn’t thrilled with this deal at first, but I’m coming around on it.

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    Well I can see where you’re coming from 100%. It FEELS like an overpay, but I think with contract inflation and the position he plays its just a market price deal.

  2. jacksquat November 27th, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    I don’t see why it’s almost automatic here that McCann won’t be able to catch at ages 33 and 34.

  3. UpState November 27th, 2013 at 12:22 pm

    How old was Posada still a decent catcher ?

  4. yankeefeminista November 27th, 2013 at 12:23 pm

    repost

    yankeefeminista November 27th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
    I didn’t realize that our Cuban LHP prospect Omar Luis is eligible for the Rule 5. Not good news b/c of the marginal risk even if he likely won’t stick on someone’s 25-man.

    http://www.baseballamerica.com…..e-5-draft/
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    yankeefeminista November 27th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
    Yanks should have extended Cano when they had the chance. We have done a very bad job of keeping core players (the one position one we have) in the fold or we should have dealt them to re-infuse the lineup with young cost-controlled players. To merely get a pick for Cano is pretty laughable. I still think/hope we re-sign Cano to a mutually doable contract because that is the best thing for the Yankees. Hopefully, going forward we will have a better business plan.

  5. AAA November 27th, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    I don’t see why it’s almost automatic here that McCann won’t be able to catch at ages 33 and 34.

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    It’s not, but there are some things to consider.

    1) Mileage. He has almost 9000 MLB innings behind the plate. Unlike Posada who wasn’t a #1 catcher until he was 26 and wasn’t an 1000+ inning catcher til he was 28, McCann was a 1000+ inning catcher at 22. Once Posada hit 11,000 behind the plate, he really ceased being an everyday C, averaging only about 450 innings a season behind the plate over the last 4 years of his career. McCann is a similar body type to Posada (6′ 2 220-ish lbs).

    2) Trends. Over the last years in order, McCann has caught 1109 innings, 1083 innings, 995 innings, 805 innings. I’m assuming he’s good for 1000+ innings for at least the 1st 3 years of the deal, but there can be no underestimating the wear and tear the job has on a guy. He’ll be at around 12000 innings at that point.

  6. yankeefeminista November 27th, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    Posada was a highly underrated anomaly. They don’t make them like that anymore. He caught 135 games at age 35 (.969 OPS while catching) and 80G at age 40, while putting up a .844 OPS while catching in his age 40 year.

    austinmac, as per market, McCann’s was a very reasonable contract. Think he will be an ideal bat for NYS even when he moves to 1B, DH, and hopefully Sanchez/Murphy take over his spot in 3 years. However, McCann’s past three years worth of declining second half splits are troubling; Yanks can hopefully mitigate those by not overcatching McCann and keeping him fresh. I assume/hope the shoulder will be an non-issue in 2014.

  7. pat November 27th, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    FeinsandNYDN
    Where will Robinson Cano spend his Thanksgiving? Riding in a parade for the 2013 WBC champion Dominican Republic team in the DR.

  8. AAA November 27th, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    He caught 135 games at age 35 (.969 OPS while catching) and 80G at age 40

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    Actually he played 6 innings at catcher at age 40, but your point remains. He was effective as a an everyday C well into his 30′s. Historically, that is unusual

  9. yankeefeminista November 27th, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    AAA, right, technically age 38 year, but you do get my point.

  10. AAA November 27th, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    He was effective as a an everyday C well into his 30?s

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    But this is true because he became an everyday catcher at a relatively late age.

    Take a look at even HOF catchers. Once they hit 11,000-12,000 innings, their effectiveness wanes.

  11. yankeefeminista November 27th, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    “But this is true because he became an everyday catcher at a relatively late age.”

    Add to that that Posada was a conditioning freak and was tough as nails/high pain threshold.

  12. AAA November 27th, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    Add to that that Posada was a conditioning freak and was tough as nails/high pain threshold.

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    Yep, but even then he hit a point where he couldn’t do it everyday anymore, be it because of injury, ineffectiveness, whatever. In his case that point was right around 11,000 innings.

  13. yankeefeminista November 27th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    AAA, probably the concussion issue was a big factor as well as just the natural aging process. I doubt we will see Posada’s like again.

  14. MTU November 27th, 2013 at 1:33 pm

    “•The Yankees remain “very much engaged” with Omar Infante’s agent, Gene Mato, according to Andrew Marchand of ESPNNewYork.com. The Yankees could try to sign Infante even if they retain Robinson Cano, says Marchand, envisioning him as a modern-day Tony Phillips who would play every day but at different positions. Marchand writes that the Yankees like Infante as a backup at third base and shortstop, and he also points out Infante’s experience in the outfield.”

    Great news. Make it happen Cashman.

  15. MTU November 27th, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    That is exactly what they should do.

    Then they can dance w Cano as long as they like.

  16. MTU November 27th, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    And get Kuroda inked too while you’re at it.

  17. yankeefeminista November 27th, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    MTU, how’s the pup healing, inflammation down?

  18. MTU November 27th, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    YF-

    Yes, somewhat. A normal progression so far. They said the healing would take about 2 weeks.

    Thanks for asking.

    How are you doing ?

    What are your Thanksgiving plans ?

  19. Ys Guy November 27th, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    i like the ‘super u’ role for infante. and having him on-board would decrease the pressure to give in to cano if the bidding gets crazy high.

  20. yankeefeminista November 27th, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    MTU, good to hear. I’ll keep him/you all in my thoughts.

    As for Thanksgiving, we are staying home and cooking in for a small few. Not too much fuss this year. More just a day of thanks and chillin’. How about you?

  21. MTU November 27th, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    YF-

    This is an unusual year in many respects. Thanksgiving is usually a big Family day for me.

    Mrs. MTU isn’t here. She had to go to CA. to be w her Sister who is ill.

    And I have to care for the pup.

    So I guess the boys and I will have Thanksgiving dinner together.

    Have fun at yours.

    I’d like to see infant brought on board. I don’t like Cano having us over a barrel.

  22. MTU November 27th, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    Infante. sorry.

  23. MTU November 27th, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    Y’s-

    We are on the same wavelength on this one.

    :)

  24. MTU November 27th, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    And probably on the importance of Tanaka as well.

  25. MTU November 27th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    If they get Infante and non-tender Nix that would save about 1.5 mil off the cost for this season.

    Too bad they can’t lose Ichiro’s money.

  26. joeman November 27th, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    I think thats it’s either Tanaka or Cano not both with the need for a OFer still out there..plus a 3rd baseman and a possible closer

  27. UpState November 27th, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>…slide over…….

  28. MTU November 27th, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    Joeman-

    I guess you don’t believe they’ll go over.

  29. MTU November 27th, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    new one ——>

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