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Two quick coaching notes

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 29, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

1. The Diamondbacks have reportedly hired Mike Harkey to be their new pitching coach. Harkey had been the Yankees bullpen coach, and he’s a close friend of Joe Girardi, but obviously a pitching coach job is tough to pass up. Congratulations to Mike. As for replacing him in the bullpen, Triple-A pitching coach Scott Aldred jumps to mind if only because of his experience and the fact he’s well liked and respected in the organization.

2. According to George King, the Yankees have a new strength and conditioning coach, hiring a guy named Matthew Krause to replace Dana Cavalea. Krause had been in the same role with the Reds. From the outside, it’s pretty hard to evaluate a strength and conditioning coach, but you can read quite a bit about Krause’s approach in a series of articles online. Cavalea was let go this offseason after seven seasons as the Yankees strength and conditioning coach.

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43 Responses to “Two quick coaching notes”

  1. Against All Odds November 29th, 2013 at 1:28 pm

    Ted Nelson November 29th, 2013 at 12:05 pm

    ———————

    True injuries and luck play a role but can an organization be that unlucky over a certain amount of time?? Even when it comes to a guy like Hensley getting hurt. Obviously the Yankees didn’t purposely draft a player with a hip issue but it seems like things like that fly under the radar.

  2. Ys Guy November 29th, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    there ya go! there’s the big organizational shakeup!

    hal has wreaked his wrath on the organization for its failures!

  3. J. Alfred Prufrock November 29th, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    mick November 28th, 2013 at 8:52 am

    Sept. for Cano, in order:

    18-42, 5-24, 11-27.

    Alternating streaks of bad and good like clockwork thru the season.

    If that isn’t a streaky hitter I don’t know…

    I’d still want to keep him.
    ///

    This isn’t “streakiness” that causes a rise in his “final numbers” or whatever your exact words were.

    This is baseball! There’s a reason a .300 average is a high one (unlike in the liveball era) in today’s game; you can be a great hitter and you’re still going to fail more than you succeed.

    These random “cutoffs” to demonstrate “streakiness” is complete BS; in baseball; everyone goes through periods where they don’t hit as well; what matters are legitimate sample sizes that either demonstrate inconsistency or it’s opposite, and as I showed, Cano is the very epitome of consistent, steadily over each month of each season hitting .300 plus and .800 OPS:

    Robinson Cano is a career .300 hitter or better, and OPS’s .800 plus, each single month of the season (he hits .299 in April) except for the month of May.

    He is the model of consistency at 2B, and probably nothing demonstrates more how terminally steady he is than these H & A splits:

    Home 2812 PA .305 .351 .507 .858
    Away 2979 PA .312 .359 .503 .862

  4. roxy1 November 29th, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    blake November 29th, 2013 at 11:08 am
    Don’t repeat the too many years, too much money cycle!”

    The spending money plan brought 5 titles and making the playoffs for like 17 of 18 seasons……it works.
    ………………………………………………………..

    Blake,
    I respectfully disagree. You cannot put the 2009 team in the same group as the first four titles.

    The late ’90s teams had homegrown players with good contracts and was supplemented with reasonably priced additions and superstar free agents who all had commitments much more favorable than what you propose to sign now. O’Neill, Tino, Knoblauch, Clemens, El Duque, Cone, Wells, etc. – not a single albatross contract.

    In 2009 it was completely different. CC, Tex, AJ, Arod plus the core all making premium dollars and with deals taking them way past their primes (except Mo lol!). And, yeh, they won one championship but now it has come back to haunt them.

  5. exiledintampa November 29th, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    Pruf – Belated Happy Thanksgiving. You don’t have to sell my on Cano. A once in a generation top 3 or higher position player of all time at a premeium position. It’s mind boggling that people are so bought into the 189 that they want to give him ultamadums. Who else deserves to be overpaid, and they’re all over paid, who else more that homegrown Robbie.

  6. J. Alfred Prufrock November 29th, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    Exiled,

    Same to you! How are you feeling these days?

    We had a nice, but somewhat hectic “food” day. We stil haven’t figured out how to keep like five dishes warm at the same time without cooking the very life out of them. We refuse to buy those bourgeois “food warmers” just because we occasionally have guests :)

    Cano is the most misunderstood Yankee player in my “career” as a fan. Did I not see a thread here stating that signing Tanaka is more crucial than re-signing Robinson Cano?? That is a remarkable statement and I’ll leave it at that ;).

    Cano, when all is said and done, may end up being the greatest 2B of all time, not just greatest Yankee 2B of all time, and given his skillset and handed-ness, he’s a Yankee must-have. If I were an enemy of the Yankees, I’d be LMAO at the truth of your comment that:

    “It’s mind boggling that people are so bought into the 189 that they want to give him ultimatums. Who else deserves to be overpaid, and they’re all over paid, who else more that homegrown Robbie.”

    Don’t split hairs over this Yankees. The move will live in infamy and the team without this guy is going to suck.

  7. AAA November 29th, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    I respectfully disagree. You cannot put the 2009 team in the same group as the first four titles.

    ==================================

    For all the talk nationally that the Yankees “buy their championships”, nothing could be further from the truth……..until 2009. That was a store bought title. But who cares? It was basically planned that way, to a large degree at the expense of the 2008 season.

  8. exiledintampa November 29th, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    Pruf – still pluggin along here in Tampa. Still hating it. But such is life. Still here every day. And yes that’s what I meant. Robbie is already in the top 3 or 4 all time and several more seasons of having him should be a no brainer. But I guess some people are conditioned to prepare for possible loss by downgrading the value. Nobody more valuable to the brand than a homegrown superstar is gonna come along for another 4 or five years if then at all.

  9. Pat M. November 29th, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    Pruf… But is he worth 30 million a season for the next 7 seasons ???

  10. J. Alfred Prufrock November 29th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    Pat M – how much are the Yankees worth?

    Would I pay him $210/seven? With the Yankees money, of course I would. They don’t have to start there, but they could stretch there.

    Where are you going over the next few years without him?

  11. mick November 29th, 2013 at 2:08 pm

    This is baseball! There’s a reason a .300 average is a high one (unlike in the liveball era) in today’s game; you can be a great hitter and you’re still going to fail more than you succeed.

    These random “cutoffs” to demonstrate “streakiness” is complete BS;
    ==============================================
    How is it BS as you so eloquently put it?
    I went thru his entire season and , like clockwork, he follows a good period with a bad one, every time.
    Do you think I made his #’s up?
    I did the work, go back and look at it. It started with a bad streak from opening day to when he got hot, then cooled off.
    Nothing random about it.
    He had alternating bad and good streaks, 10 each to be exact throughout the entire season.

  12. jackamir November 29th, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    Beltran —–I want him——-Go get him !!!!!!!! He is the ideal player for this team if he can stay healthy….

  13. jackamir November 29th, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    Cano—-6 years at 190 will get it done.. It’s an overpay but it is the Yankees…

  14. J. Alfred Prufrock November 29th, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    exiledintampa November 29th, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    Pruf – still pluggin along here in Tampa. Still hating it. But such is life. Still here every day. And yes that’s what I meant. Robbie is already in the top 3 or 4 all time and several more seasons of having him should be a no brainer. But I guess some people are conditioned to prepare for possible loss by downgrading the value. Nobody more valuable to the brand than a homegrown superstar is gonna come along for another 4 or five years if then at all.
    ///

    Exiled, some of your Cano posts have been some of the best reading on this blog. Yeah, as soon as a player becomes a FA the fanbase starts ripping the guy. This happened with my Penguins and their star defenseman (without whom, the team has no way to get the puck to Crosby and Malkin, but they wanted the “greedy, selfish” Chris Letang to go elsewhere. The Penguins, fortunately, are smart, and have locked him up). It’s the way people roll: owners are pulling it in, that’s ok; players are “selfish” when they want to get paid. Go figure.

  15. Pat M. November 29th, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    The guy who never seemed to have a off streak was the great George Brett. Pruf, now that the Front Office seems at least to be committed to improving the club, well then you try to resign him if it’s only a mild overpay. Otherwise you move on a sign two quality players with the Cano dough. Keep in mind they have many holes to address and McCann is just a start and he’s more than a mild overpay.

  16. J. Alfred Prufrock November 29th, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    How is it BS as you so eloquently put it?
    I went thru his entire season and , like clockwork, he follows a good period with a bad one, every time.
    Do you think I made his #’s up?
    ///

    No, i think you randomly chose periods to back up your unfounded idea about Robinson Cano, and you completely ignored what I showed you, which is astoundingly, dramatically at variance with your comment.

    Even guys like Miggy, clearly the best hitter in baseball, go to the plate with the odds against them. They make outs, like their suckier counterparts. The difference is, they also go through periods where they hit because it’s inevitable good hitters will find a way to hit, and when you can drive the ball, there’s the slugging component as well. But, it’s also inevitable that hitters will make outs. No one has ever gone 2 for 5 for an entire season in the modern era, that’s still making 3 outs against 2 hits and yet is .400.

    Cano is consistent to an almost comical degree.

  17. mick November 29th, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    No, i think you randomly chose periods
    ========================
    Randomly?
    I went thru his game logs , month to month, game by game. It is self-evident.
    Do it yourself.

  18. J. Alfred Prufrock November 29th, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    Front Office seems at least to be committed to improving the club, well then you try to resign him if it’s only a mild overpay. Otherwise you move on a sign two quality players with the Cano dough. Keep in mind they have many holes to address and McCann is just a start and he’s more than a mild overpay.
    ///

    Two “quality” players will not make up for the loss of a LH slugging/BB’d hit tool 2B with a gold glove who never gets hurt and is consistently productive to a fault.

    I think some of you guys are getting hung up because of the 300M circulating out there. He’s not getting that figure. And I actually do not believe the Yankees won’t re-sign him; this is just part of the mating dance. What astounds me, however, is how he’s viewed by people who seem to say they watch all the games.

  19. J. Alfred Prufrock November 29th, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    Randomly?
    I went thru his game logs , month to month, game by game. It is self-evident.
    Do it yourself.
    ///

    I could divy up the ABs in more or less numbers and show “trends” in incredibly small sample sizes as well, but that isn’t even the point.

    The point is, he consistently hits enough EACH MONTH to produce .300/.800 – so he consistently hits over the course of the season, very evenly. I’m sorry you can’t accept that.
    ///

    I gotta get on with the day.

    Cheers

  20. J. Alfred Prufrock November 29th, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    and going “through game logs” and deciding I’ll stop at 5-for-23, because it says what i want it to, and then diecide that a 50 AB sample is also kosher.

    random.
    ///

    later Lohud

  21. exiledintampa November 29th, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    i don’t wanna hear about the Penguins problems. I root for the Sabres. talk about problems.

  22. blake November 29th, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    Blake,
    I respectfully disagree. You cannot put the 2009 team in the same group as the first four titles.”

    The home grown core started it but spending money fed the machine and kept the window open almost 2 decades to win more…..when they stopped spending the window started closing and slammed shut in 2013.

    Now they are gonna have to either spend money again to pry it back open…..or they will have to wait awhile until they can do it internally

    You can’t buy titles…… But you can essentially buy playoff births

  23. mick November 29th, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    btw…Just went thru Cabrera’s day by day log and he has no streaks to speak of.
    Much steadier than Cano with no stretches of 0 or even 1 hit games.
    That’s the difference between a 314 and a 348 BA.

  24. Pat M. November 29th, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    Pruf.. I’m a fan of Cano however I’m a realist and his best seasons are behind him or very close to that. I always felt that they should have moved both him and Granderson as a vehicle to reboot the club looking forward. The truth be told is the Yankees made this mess by not getting him inked to an extenstion a few years back thus the lack of direction for the ballclub today. Of course there’s the 189 slogan and concept

  25. exiledintampa November 29th, 2013 at 2:44 pm

    Know what the difference between hitting .250 and .300 is? It’s 25 hits. 25 hits in 500 at bats is 50 points, okay? There’s 6 months in a season, that’s about 25 weeks. That means if you get just one extra flare a week – just one – a gorp… you get a groundball, you get a groundball with eyes… you get a dying quail, just one more dying quail a week… and you’re in Yankee Stadium.
    – Crash Davis

  26. mick November 29th, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    shouldn’t you be playing whiffle ball?
    i have a wicked curve…and riser.
    but am only a 2 pitch pitcher..

  27. J. Alfred Prufrock November 29th, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    mick November 29th, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    btw…Just went thru Cabrera’s day by day log and he has no streaks to speak of.
    Much steadier than Cano with no stretches of 0 or even 1 hit games.
    That’s the difference between a 314 and a 348 BA.
    ///

    Guess what? You discovered nothing, except the obvious: Miggy is a better hitter, therefore he is going to hit for a better average than Cano.

    Suck hitters go 5 for 23 too, because pitchers have the edge. The difference is, elite hitters consistently balance out enough to hit .300 or better: that’s the difference. Game of baseball for you.

  28. chicken_stanley November 29th, 2013 at 2:51 pm

    I’m all for a re-sign of Cano but its a wait and see thing … I’m curious about the outfield possibilities.

    I normally dont rely heavily WAR, but it seems to be pretty often quoted on here so lets use 2013 WAR (from baseball reference) to take a look at prespective starting outfield combinations:

    Ellsbury – 5.8
    Gardner – 4.2
    Sori – 1.6
    Total – 11.6

    Ellsbury – 5.8
    Sori – 1.6
    Beltran – 2.4
    Total – 9.8

    Gardner – 4.2
    Sori – 1.6
    Beltran – 2.4
    Total – 8.2

    Gardner – 4.2
    Sori – 1.6
    Choo – 4.2
    Total – 10.0

    The question is, which combination makes the most sense for the Yankees?

  29. J. Alfred Prufrock November 29th, 2013 at 2:51 pm

    Pat M. November 29th, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    Pruf.. I’m a fan of Cano however I’m a realist and his best seasons are behind him or very close to that.
    ///

    I have to get out of here, but I do not think this is necessarily true. Check his OBP in 2013 and “high leverage” plus OPS vs. RHP. Also made a comeback vs. lefties once he got better protection.

    Later guys

  30. mick November 29th, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    if you get 1 hit more over 20 abs, that’s 5 hits more per 100.
    spread those 5 hits around and you eliminate slumps over those 100 abs.

  31. mick November 29th, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    Guess what? You discovered nothing, except the obvious: Miggy is a better hitter, therefore he is going to hit for a better average than Cano.
    ==============
    Wasn’t trying to compare him with Miggy.
    Just a point that he is a streaky hitter.
    Of course Miggy is better.

  32. exiledintampa November 29th, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    2015 In the first you have only Ellsbury. In the second Ellsbury and Beltran. In the third only Beltran. and in the fourth only Choo. How do you wanna see beyond 2014?

  33. chicken_stanley November 29th, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    Hi Exiled.

    If I understand your comment – I just included some likely scenarios. Feel free to mix and match as you see fit for short and long term success.

    I’m not a big fan of Ellbury and Gardner in the same outfield even though they give you a high WAR – I still believe in power at the corners. I guess you could go Ellsbury and Choo for the same number but I don’t see any way the Yankees spend for both.

    I’m just curious what everyone thinks the starting combo should be… there have been so many posts extolling the virtues of this player and that player but the fact is no one is signed in a vacuum… teams are a sum of their parts, not a collection of individual players.

  34. exiledintampa November 29th, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    Chickin – I think Ellsbury’s and Gardner’s WAR cancells out somewhat as they would overlap due to high defense. So they wouldn’t be that high side by side.

  35. chicken_stanley November 29th, 2013 at 3:46 pm

    So, what’s the answer? If signing Ellsbury lessens the value of Gardner, you might want to try to move Gardner for whatever pieces you could get. That would require the signing of another outfielder (unless you want to stick with an Ichiro/Wells platoon – ugh!)…

    Ellsbury (20 mil) + Beltran (15 mil) = 35 mil
    Ellsbury (20 mil) + Choo (20 mil) = 40 mil

    But you could go:

    Gardner (4 mil) + Choo (20 mil) = 24 mil
    Gardner (4 mil) + Beltran (15 mil) = 19 mil

    There are other posssibilites I suppose (Cruz, Hart, etc.) but to me, Gardner/Choo makes the most sense… maybe not as much production as Ellsbury/Choo but gives the Yankees so much more flnancial flexibility

  36. tomingeorgia November 29th, 2013 at 3:57 pm

    Great afternoon for a nap.

  37. Pat M. November 29th, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    Off to Pebble Beach..

  38. chicken_stanley November 29th, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    Tom – LOL. point taken… I’ll shut up now :)

    Pat M. have a great time. Never been to pebble beach but drove the PCH from San Fran to LA this summer… absolutely beautiful (shoulda visited Pebble Beach, though… still regret it)

  39. RhapsodyInBlue November 29th, 2013 at 4:24 pm

    Cano will never replace or put up the numbers that Rogers Hornsby has, the greatest 2nd baseman of all time.

    Such talk is rubbish.

  40. blake November 29th, 2013 at 4:38 pm

    @Buster_ESPN: Today’s column. http://t.co/7hjJRuKJLD About when the Yankees could cut ties with Alex Rodriguez, and why. Notes/news/links.

    Agree with Bluster this time….I don’t think he will be back with the Yanks again

  41. MTU November 29th, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    Royals gave Moore a 2 yr. extension.

    Guess they didn’t notice that they haven’t won squat w him as GM since 2006.

    Way I count he’s had 7 yrs. to make a difference.

    He should be gone.

    Just like Newman should.

    Or any executive who’s had a long time and hasn’t gotten it done.

    I would have loved to have kept my job when I was performing.

    That’s a kind of neat trick.

    ;)

  42. MTU November 29th, 2013 at 5:00 pm

    ed: wasn’t. duh.

    Too many beers.

    :(

  43. MTU November 29th, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    New one ——>

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