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Tuesday notes and links: Royals reportedly chasing Beltran

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 03, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

World Series Cardinals Red Sox Baseball• Buster Olney reports that the industry is beginning to view the Royals as the favorites to sign Carlos Beltran to something like three years, $48 million. It’s a huge contract for a Royals team that clearly wants to win now, and the Yankees obviously would rather not go three years. Losing out on Beltran could send the Yankees spinning in a completely different direction. Impact outfielder alternatives Jacoby Ellsbury and Shin-Soo Choo are likely to require a much longer deal. How would that impact the Yankees ability to stay in the Robinson Cano bidding?

• Oakland is building a terrific bullpen — in the past two days it’s trade for Jim Johnson and Luke Gregerson — but the A’s are also said to be actively shopping left-handed starter Brian Anderson, and Jeff Passan reports that the Yankees are one of several teams to have explored the idea. At his best, Anderson is a terrific young starter who’s still just 25 years old, but a series of injuries have limited him to 163 innings — plus a few in the minors — in the past three years combined. He had a 6.04 ERA this season, and he’s making $8 million, so there’s significant risk and cost associated with him. Could be a bargain, could be a bust, and that uncertainty might keep the prospect cost low enough that the Yankees take a shot. Hard to estimate what exactly a guy like Anderson is worth on the trade market. Probably varies significantly from team to team.

• Adding some veteran depth to the Triple-A pitching staff, the Yankees have signed Brian Gordon to a minor league deal, according to Ken Davidoff. You might remember Gordon as the guy who emerged from complete anonymity to make two spot starts for the Yankees back in 2011. He was a Triple-A closer in the A’s system last year. In 63 innings, he had 66 strikeouts, three walks and a 1.11 WHIP in a hitter-friendly league. Not bad as a depth move, especially considering the Yankees current pitching situation.

• If you’re interested, here’s audio of Chris Stewart speaking to MLB Network Radio earlier today. Nothing particularly surprising, just Stewart talking about the things you’d expect about wanting to stay with the Yankees but seeing the writing on the wall after the Brian McCann signing. He confirmed that the trade had been in place for several days, but he had to work out a new contract with the Pirates before the trade could be completed.

• Today the Rays traded for catcher Ryan Hanigan (they also got reliever Heath Bell in the deal), and the Red Sox signed a one-year deal with catcher A.J. Pierzynski. All of this on the same day the Yankees announced their deal with Brian McCann, and one day after the Blue Jays non-tendered catcher J.P. Arencibia. Nothing gets the world buzzing like catching news in the A.L. East!

• Short-term Yankees corner infielder/outfielder Eric Hinske has joined the Cubs as their first-base coach.

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330 Responses to “Tuesday notes and links: Royals reportedly chasing Beltran”

  1. Bret The Hitman December 3rd, 2013 at 6:30 pm

    You mean “Brett” Anderson, not “Brian”

  2. Ys Guy December 3rd, 2013 at 6:31 pm

    cardinals had one of the classic and classiest uniforms in all of sports but they fell victim to the ‘alternate uni’ craze and often wear that high school looking cap that beltran’s wearing in that picture.

    so sad….

  3. mick December 3rd, 2013 at 6:31 pm

    Well at least we got Brian Gordon back.

  4. mick December 3rd, 2013 at 6:35 pm

    Even tho we are a bunch of rednecks I went out and saw 12 Years A Slave today.
    Some are touting it for movie of the year.
    Very heavy stuff.

  5. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 6:35 pm

    NYY are trying to move Gardner

  6. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 6:35 pm

    Champ,
    Choo is better than Beltran now and is more likely to be good in the future as well given their ages…..Id get it if you’re talking about a 2/30 deal for him vs a 100 million dollar one for Choo…..but when you have to give a 37 year old 50 million to sign him then your better off getting the guys that’s 6 years younger

  7. Giuseppe Franco December 3rd, 2013 at 6:36 pm

    The desperate attempts to trade Gardner still make me laugh.

    It hasn’t worked for 4 years and won’t work this offseason either.

    He’s still going nowhere.

  8. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 6:37 pm

    Jacoby Ellsbury

  9. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 6:37 pm

    If the Yankees trade Gardner they have no CFer and they essentially have to sign Ellsbury to a bad contract…..just doesn’t make sense

  10. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 6:38 pm

    Giuseppe Franco December 3rd, 2013 at 6:36 pm
    The desperate attempts to trade Gardner still make me laugh.

    It hasn’t worked for 4 years and won’t work this offseason either.

    He’s still going nowhere.
    ————————————–
    I believe you

  11. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    blake December 3rd, 2013 at 6:37 pm
    If the Yankees trade Gardner they have no CFer and they essentially have to sign Ellsbury to a bad contract…..just doesn’t make sense
    ————————————-
    how about if they signed Choo

  12. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    Choo can’t play CF

  13. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 6:40 pm

    “MLB negotiators’ latest proposal for the posting system would establish a maximum bid and include a provision prioritizing teams with low records, Sponichi reports (Japanese link). Under the plan, multiple teams could submit the maximum bid for a player, with negotiating rights going to the club that had the lowest winning precentage that year. Nippon Professional Baseball was scheduled to discuss the proposal in a meeting with the 12 NPB teams on Tuesday.”

    I hope this doesn’t see the light of day.

    If it does bye bye Tanaka.

  14. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 6:40 pm

    Well he can but he’s terrible in CF

  15. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 6:41 pm

    I actually think it might benefit the Yankees if there was a max bid…..he might choose them….I think they’ll be outbid if there isn’t

  16. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 6:41 pm

    blake December 3rd, 2013 at 6:39 pm
    Choo can’t play CF
    ——————————–
    he played 150 games there last year

  17. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 6:41 pm

    Choo can play CF but not very well.

    ;)

  18. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 6:41 pm

    blake December 3rd, 2013 at 6:39 pm
    Choo can’t play CF
    ——————————–
    he played 150 games there last year

    Nunez played SS a lot too….doesn’t mean he should

  19. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 6:41 pm

    blake December 3rd, 2013 at 6:40 pm
    Well he can but he’s terrible in CF
    ————————————————–
    why would that be

  20. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 6:42 pm

    Watch the Tigers come in and take Choo off the board.

  21. Bret The Hitman December 3rd, 2013 at 6:42 pm

    Mick,

    As a fellow redneck, I rank Django Unchained as one of my all-time favorite movies. I definitely laughed every time a slave master was massacred.

  22. Against All Odds December 3rd, 2013 at 6:42 pm

    joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 6:11 pm
    Against All Odds December 3rd, 2013 at 6:05 pm
    The villagers storming the castle to get rid of Gardner again huh lol.
    ——————————————–
    it will happen..I got joba and Hughes out of here

    ———————

    Not sure if that’s something to be happy about lol

  23. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 6:43 pm

    redneck….can we please stop using that pharse

  24. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    Because he doesn’t compare to a guy like GGBG at that position.

    Granderson would be better too.

    He is a corner OF’er.

    He lacks the foot speed and range to be a CF.

    And probably the instincts.

  25. Bret The Hitman December 3rd, 2013 at 6:45 pm

    Given Choo’s production, I could live with him in CF and Gardner traded for a closer.

  26. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 6:46 pm

    Choo..4 out of the last 5 years he stole over 20 bases he has to have some foot speed

  27. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 6:46 pm

    blake December 3rd, 2013 at 6:40 pm
    Well he can but he’s terrible in CF
    ————————————————–
    why would that be

    Watch any reds games last year?

  28. champ809 December 3rd, 2013 at 6:46 pm

    Blake I just showed you based on production how Choo is not better than Beltran. You show me how Choo is better than Beltran.

    In the last say five years all Choo has done better than Beltran is draw walks. In every other offensive category he’s inferior.

    Even last season, probably his best season, he was inferior vs. lhp, on the road, power….

    How is Choo a better overall hitter than Beltran?

  29. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 6:47 pm

    Gardner never knows how many out there are

  30. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 6:48 pm

    blake December 3rd, 2013 at 6:46 pm
    blake December 3rd, 2013 at 6:40 pm
    Well he can but he’s terrible in CF
    ————————————————–
    why would that be

    Watch any reds games last year?
    ————————————–
    no…I’m a RS fan remember

  31. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 6:48 pm

    “Blake I just showed you based on production how Choo is not better than Beltran. You show me how Choo is better than Beltran.”

    He gets on base a lot more ….like almost 100 points more …..again we aren’t talking about Beltrans career….we are talking about Beltran age 37-39. His numbers have declined each of the last 3 years

  32. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 6:49 pm

    The Tigers are going after Choo so color him gone anyway.

  33. Bret The Hitman December 3rd, 2013 at 6:51 pm

    Need to wrestle him from the Tigers like Ted Dibiase

  34. champ809 December 3rd, 2013 at 6:51 pm

    Not if the guys only advantage is that he’s 6 years younger.

    Beltran over the next 3 years is making a HOF push. He’s a great player who will be motivated to cement his legacy as 1 of the games best. He’s not coming here to collect a check and sit down.

    I like Choo as a player and as early as 2 offseasons ago was on here championing that the Yanks should’ve explored a trade with the Indians for Choo to replace Swisher.

    IMO I’d rather have Beltran for 3 years @ 16MM per than Choo for 6 or 7 @ $20MM.

  35. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 6:52 pm

    Right now I get the impression the Yankees couldn’t wrestle a piece of toilet paper off the roll.

    ;)

  36. Bret The Hitman December 3rd, 2013 at 6:53 pm

    No McCann do?

  37. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 6:53 pm

    Anyone else like eggplant ?

  38. Bret The Hitman December 3rd, 2013 at 6:53 pm

    No it’s really bitter.

  39. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 6:53 pm

    my top FA OFers

    Choo/Ellsbury
    Ellsbury/Choo
    Beltran
    Granderson
    Cruz
    Byrd

  40. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 6:54 pm

    “Not if the guys only advantage is that he’s 6 years younger.”

    It’s not….I posted their numbers

  41. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 6:55 pm

    MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 6:53 pm
    Anyone else like eggplant ?
    —————————————
    have it once a month

  42. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 6:56 pm

    especially eggplant parm.

    Yum.

    Good stuff.

  43. Against All Odds December 3rd, 2013 at 6:56 pm

    Bret The Hitman December 3rd, 2013 at 6:51 pm
    Need to wrestle him from the Tigers like Ted Dibiase

    —————————

    I agree when they sit at the table with Choo this song should be playing in the background

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm4TG56KGZ4

  44. Against All Odds December 3rd, 2013 at 6:56 pm

    Hit them with the million dollar dream Hal. They’ll never see it coming

  45. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 6:57 pm

    MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 6:56 pm
    especially eggplant parm.

    Yum.

    Good stuff.
    ————————————-
    chicken chili with eggplant in it

  46. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 6:57 pm

    Now if it’s DD vs. Cashman.

    Who do you think will come away w Choo ?

    ;)

  47. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 6:58 pm

    I especially love it Chinese style.

    off the charts.

    :)

  48. Teddyballgame13 December 3rd, 2013 at 6:59 pm

    New to the blog, but you Choo lovers are trippin. You guys are in love with the advanced metrics. He can’t hit lefties, he doesn’t produce runs. In NO WAY is he a superior player to Beltran. Beltran will hit for a .285 30/100 slash line in NYS in his sleep….Take the 100 walks, 60 RBI and $20 million salary elsewhere. If the Yanks sign Choo they would’ve been better off keeping Swisher last year for 60% of the cost. A middle of the order with Cano, Beltran, Sori (L/S/R) is devastating…..Choo is not scaring anybody batting 2nd, and $20 million can be spent much more wisely than on a glorified platoon player.

  49. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 6:59 pm

    would you rather have Choo or Beltran or Ellsbury and Tanaka or Cano only

  50. austinmac December 3rd, 2013 at 7:01 pm

    Others are evidently “more interested” in Infante than the Yankees. Translation is he is too expensive for the budget.

    Nelson Cruz? Working our way down.

  51. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 7:01 pm

    Teddyballgame13 December 3rd, 2013 at 6:59 pm
    New to the blog, but you Choo lovers are trippin. You guys are in love with the advanced metrics. He can’t hit lefties, he doesn’t produce runs. In NO WAY is he a superior player to Beltran. Beltran will hit for a .285 30/100 slash line in NYS in his sleep….Take the 100 walks, 60 RBI and $20 million salary elsewhere. If the Yanks sign Choo they would’ve been better off keeping Swisher last year for 60% of the cost. A middle of the order with Cano, Beltran, Sori (L/S/R) is devastating…..Choo is not scaring anybody batting 2nd, and $20 million can be spent much more wisely than on a glorified platoon player.
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    if your a NYY fan and want Gardner out of here welcome

  52. Howler December 3rd, 2013 at 7:03 pm

    I think the Yankees got the most of what they’ll get out of Gardner…if they can get something out of him now they should do it…I see him as one of these players who will burn out as they get past 30 and you’ll just see more and more injuries. He’s not a player whose numbers would be difficult to replicate.

  53. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 7:04 pm

    Reds looking for a CF/leadoff hitter…don’t think Hamilton is ready yet…..Gardner and all his NYY value for Todd Frazier

  54. chicken_stanley December 3rd, 2013 at 7:05 pm

    I’m totally with the slant of the blog today… Gardner must go!

    As one of the Yank’s worst players, he totally submarined the season… He can’t play D for sh!t… and he seems to get worse at the plate each year.

    Additionally, he is solely responsible for global warming, bludgeons baby seals for fun, and drives (by himself, mind you) in the HOV lane :)

  55. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 7:06 pm

    chicken_stanley December 3rd, 2013 at 7:05 pm
    I’m totally with the slant of the blog today… Gardner must go!

    As one of the Yank’s worst players, he totally submarined the season… He can’t play D for sh!t… and he seems to get worse at the plate each year.

    Additionally, he is solely responsible for global warming, bludgeons baby seals for fun, and drives (by himself, mind you) in the HOV lane :)
    ————————————
    your lying

  56. Howler December 3rd, 2013 at 7:07 pm

    He doesn’t drive by himself…he uses his inflatable sex doll made up to look like Hank…get your facts straight.

  57. Teddyballgame13 December 3rd, 2013 at 7:07 pm

    Trading Gardner is stupid. He will net little to nothing in a trade. Keep him and he plays a good CF, on a good year maybe he hits .280 and steals 40 bags and scores 100 runs. I feel as though his average could even reach .290-.300 if he fixed his approach at the plate. Dude takes way too many hittable first pitch strikes. You trade Gardner and you have to find another CF….and PLEASE don’t tell me Choo! Choo in CF is almost as much of a joke as Matsui in center

  58. pkyankfan69 December 3rd, 2013 at 7:07 pm

    Teddyballgame13 December 3rd, 2013 at 6:59 pm
    New to the blog, but you Choo lovers are trippin. You guys are in love with the advanced metrics.
    ———–
    Since when is OBP “advanced metrics”?

  59. austinmac December 3rd, 2013 at 7:07 pm

    I thought I recognized Gardner in the HOV lane. He was going fast but never hit anything.

  60. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:07 pm

    @jonmorosi: Yankees have made offer to FA infielder Omar Infante, in addition to Drew, Ellsbury, Choo, Beltran, sources tell @Ken_Rosenthal and me.

  61. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:08 pm

    @FeinsandNYDN: Source tells me Nelson Cruz could emerge as Yankees’ target if they miss out on Carlos Beltran.

  62. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:09 pm

    @BronxPinstripes: Source: #Ellsbury rumored to arrive in New York | #Yankees | #NYY | http://t.co/0rn8QIuSaA

  63. Bret The Hitman December 3rd, 2013 at 7:09 pm

    He’s not a player whose numbers would be difficult to replicate.

    ___________

    .733 career OPS, 30 years old, in a walk year.

    He’s a defensive specialist. At the plate, his numbers will only plummet as his legs slow and the roids catch up to his joints, tendons, hammy’s etc.

  64. chicken_stanley December 3rd, 2013 at 7:09 pm

    Austinmac – touche! :D

  65. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 7:10 pm

    UConn mens BB team might be a big surprise this year beating Maryland,Fla,BC & Ind already this year standing a 10-0

  66. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 7:11 pm

    Blake-

    I hope they all accept.

    Team Greedy would celebrate.

    Big time.

    :)

  67. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:11 pm

    @BoltingVulture: #MLBNews: Jacoby Ellsbury to take a physical for the New York Yankees tomorrow according to sources

    Wut?

  68. Bret The Hitman December 3rd, 2013 at 7:12 pm

    There are rumors floating around that free agent and former Red Sock Jacoby Ellsbury will be signed by a New York team soon, and presumably, he will land in pinstripes.

    Ellsbury is rumored to be arriving in New York tomorrow for a physical, multiple sources confirm to Bronxpinstripes.com. With Carlos Beltran leaning towards signing with the Royals and Robinson Cano‘s status up in the air, the Yankees are turning their attention to other big name free agents.

    _______

    Wish it were Rosenthal :lol:

    This is nice tho:

    blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:07 pm
    @jonmorosi: Yankees have made offer to FA infielder Omar Infante, in addition to Drew, Ellsbury, Choo, Beltran, sources tell @Ken_Rosenthal and me.

  69. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:12 pm

    That’s probably fake news

  70. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 7:12 pm

    Trouble is you can’t catch whales w minnows.

    :(

  71. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 7:13 pm

    Good line Mac.

    You are upping your game.

    :)

  72. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:13 pm

    Id rather have Choo but I won’t cry if they sign Ellsbury….

  73. Howler December 3rd, 2013 at 7:13 pm

    I always thought the walk year idea was overblown…I just think his future will be on a downward trend…players like him and his body type don’t age well.

  74. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 7:14 pm

    I don’t care who they sign as long as they create a competitive Team.

    And discard 189 in process.

    :)

  75. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 7:15 pm

    blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:09 pm
    @BronxPinstripes: Source: #Ellsbury rumored to arrive in New York | #Yankees | #NYY | http://t.co/0rn8QIuSaA
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    told you Ellsbury was coming here a couple of weeks ago, maybe now you all will start to listen to me

  76. hardwired7 December 3rd, 2013 at 7:15 pm

    Choo’s WAR over the last 5 years:

    5.5
    6.0
    1.6
    3.4
    4.2

    Those are studly numbers; especially considering his abysmal dWAR showing and ineffectiveness vs. lhp.

  77. chicken_stanley December 3rd, 2013 at 7:15 pm

    Just because sarcasm in text is somewhat difficult to discern, my previous post about Gardner is just that – sarcasm. I’d be happy if the Yanks extend him… for multiple years

  78. Teddyballgame13 December 3rd, 2013 at 7:15 pm

    pkyankfan69 December 3rd, 2013 at 7:07 pm
    Teddyballgame13 December 3rd, 2013 at 6:59 pm
    New to the blog, but you Choo lovers are trippin. You guys are in love with the advanced metrics.
    ———–
    Since when is OBP “advanced metrics”

    ————–

    OBP is not “advanced metrics”. I was referring more to OPS+….while it is often a good statistic it can be very misleading. OPS+ tells us that Nick Swisher is a superior player to Alfonoso Soriano or Andre Dawson. Would you say that’s the case?

    Bring out all the stats you want, and in no way is Choo a better player than Carlos Beltran.

  79. pkyankfan69 December 3rd, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    Mark Feinsand of the New York Daily News reports that Shin-Soo Choo is the Tigers’ “top target” as they seek a left-handed hitting outfielder.
    It’s become apparent that with the Prince Fielder and Doug Fister trades, the Tigers were clearing some payroll space for their next big move. Choo would certainly qualify, as he’s surely going to command a contract over $100 million. The Yankees, Rangers and Mariners are three other teams known to have interest in the OBP machine.
    ——————————–
    Makes a lot of sense for the Tigers… Get an OBP machine in the line up in front of Miggy

  80. CountryClub December 3rd, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    There are rumors floating around that free agent and former Red Sock Jacoby Ellsbury will be signed by a New York team soon, and presumably, he will land in pinstripes.
    Ellsbury is rumored to be arriving in New York tomorrow for a physical, multiple sources confirm to Bronxpinstripes.com. With Carlos Beltran leaning towards signing with the Royals and Robinson Cano‘s status up in the air, the Yankees are turning their attention to other big name free agents.

    http://bronxpinstripes.com/new.....-new-york/

  81. Bret The Hitman December 3rd, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:12 pm

    That’s probably fake news

    _____

    Still sweet to indulge in a little fantasy!

  82. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    “told you Ellsbury was coming here a couple of weeks ago, maybe now you all will start to listen to me”

    Probably fake

  83. champ809 December 3rd, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    Choo BTW doesn’t get on base at a .420 clip every season. His career .obp is .389 vs. .359 for Beltran

    Beltran has also exceeded Choo’s career high in HRs(22) every 1 of the last 11 full seasons he’s played including last season.

    Beltran also happens to be 1 of the greatest postseason performers in the games history and make no mistake that is a skill the Yanks desperately need.

  84. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    jump aboard the Ellsbury bandwagon….goodbye Gardner

  85. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 7:17 pm

    blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:16 pm
    “told you Ellsbury was coming here a couple of weeks ago, maybe now you all will start to listen to me”

    Probably fake
    ————————————-
    it’s not I have sources

  86. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:17 pm

    Yanks may have seen the writing on the wall with Choo and Beltran and focused on Ellsbury …..if they do sign him we just have to hope he stays healthy

  87. austinmac December 3rd, 2013 at 7:17 pm

    Joeman,

    While I hope it is true, the story is based solely on “rumors”. Undescribed rumors.

  88. Bret The Hitman December 3rd, 2013 at 7:18 pm

    McCann, Cano, Ellsbury is best in baseball up the middle.

  89. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:18 pm

    “it’s not I have sources”

    You have sources? Ok

  90. Against All Odds December 3rd, 2013 at 7:19 pm

    “told you Ellsbury was coming here a couple of weeks ago, maybe now you all will start to listen to me”

    —————-

    You were right about Boston winning. Give me the lucky numbers and I will crown you king

  91. austinmac December 3rd, 2013 at 7:19 pm

    Joeman,

    Please stop using Bret as your source. :)

  92. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:20 pm

    Choo BTW doesn’t get on base at a .420 clip every season. His career .obp is .389 vs. .359 for Beltran”

    Beltrans career numbers are irrelevant …..he had a .330 OBP last year and a sub .300 OBP vs LHP

  93. CountryClub December 3rd, 2013 at 7:20 pm

    I’m not completely buying the Ellsbury rumor either, especially since none of the national guys have heard anything. However, the Yankees have been known to keep these things very quiet until they’re final in the past.

  94. Bret The Hitman December 3rd, 2013 at 7:20 pm

    Speaking of sources, where is LostNYY?

  95. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 7:21 pm

    austinmac December 3rd, 2013 at 7:17 pm
    Joeman,

    While I hope it is true, the story is based solely on “rumors”. Undescribed rumors.
    ———————————-
    something about smoke and fire

  96. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 7:21 pm

    OK. Joeman. Just for S and G’s.

    Without revealing names who are your sources ?

    Are they Yankee people ?

    How would they be in the know is what I am asking ?

  97. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:21 pm

    If Ellsbury signs with the yanks and Choo with Detroit and Beltran with KC then the socks are left our in the cold…..unless they trade for kemp

  98. Against All Odds December 3rd, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    CountryClub December 3rd, 2013 at 7:20 pm
    I’m not completely buying the Ellsbury rumor either, especially since none of the national guys have heard anything. However, the Yankees have been known to keep these things very quiet until they’re final in the past.

    —————

    McCann was a ninja move

  99. chicken_stanley December 3rd, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    Mac – you’re on fire tonight! Actually laughing out loud :)

  100. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    austinmac December 3rd, 2013 at 7:19 pm
    Joeman,

    Please stop using Bret as your source. :)
    ———————————————————-
    if he isn’t playing me we think alike which is nice

  101. Bret The Hitman December 3rd, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    CountryClub December 3rd, 2013 at 7:20 pm

    I’m not completely buying the Ellsbury rumor either, especially since none of the national guys have heard anything.

    ________

    Not entirely true.

    blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:07 pm

    @jonmorosi: Yankees have made offer to FA infielder Omar Infante, in addition to Drew, Ellsbury, Choo, Beltran, sources tell @Ken_Rosenthal and me.

  102. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 7:23 pm

    Bret-

    Someone posted one of his tweets the other day.

    In it he said that the Yankees front office was basically dysfunctional.

    ;)

  103. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:23 pm

    If they do sign Ellsbury I’ll probably have to concede that 189 is over….unless they are letting cano go….I really hope 189 is over and they jus sign everybody

  104. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2013 at 7:23 pm

    My head is spinning…

    I’d be down with Infante and Cruz.. is Cruz going to be that much cheaper than Beltran though? This market is insane.

  105. pkyankfan69 December 3rd, 2013 at 7:23 pm

    Just in case anyone was wondering Cash has yet to reply to my Email.

  106. champ809 December 3rd, 2013 at 7:23 pm

    If the Yanks pay Jacoby Ellsbury what he will most likely get from some sucker in this market then they will officially be a clueless organization.

    Ellsbury is an injury prone slightly better than league average player who is positioned to be grossly overpaid as a superstar when he clearly is not. He’s a $10 mil a year player who will get $20-22 mil from some sucker team.

    His 1 elite skill is base stealing. He’s not an elite hitter, nor an elite defender and has only exceeded 9 HRs ONCE in his career.

  107. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 7:24 pm

    MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 7:21 pm
    OK. Joeman. Just for S and G’s.

    Without revealing names who are your sources ?

    Are they Yankee people ?

    How would they be in the know is what I am asking ?
    —————————–
    sorry I took the oath

  108. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2013 at 7:24 pm

    blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:23 pm

    If they do sign Ellsbury I’ll probably have to concede that 189 is over….unless they are letting cano go….I really hope 189 is over and they jus sign everybody

    —————–

    If they sign Ellsbury and let Cano walk, however, I’ll be irate.

  109. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:24 pm

    I don’t want Cruz

  110. Howler December 3rd, 2013 at 7:24 pm

    MTU…proves he’s been in contact with the Yankee FO for sure

  111. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:24 pm

    If they sign Ellsbury and let Cano walk, however, I’ll be irate.”

    Yes…..pointless

  112. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 7:26 pm

    Joeman-

    Then you officially fail the test.

    I am not asking for who.

    Just the sourcing of your info.

    You should have no problem revealing that.

  113. Captain Clutch December 3rd, 2013 at 7:26 pm

    That Ellsbury rumor is such BS. If he was close to signing one main beat writer would know about it. I highly thought that Boras will let Choo or Ellsbury sign before the winter meetings, especially not with Cano up in the air.

  114. chicken_stanley December 3rd, 2013 at 7:26 pm

    is Cruz going to be that much cheaper than Beltran though?

    ————————-

    According to mlbtraderumors, not cheaper but MUCH more expensive:

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....-deal.html

  115. Bret The Hitman December 3rd, 2013 at 7:26 pm

    Cano’s team might just be waiting for NYY to cross the magic 189 line. And there goes the leverage.

  116. pkyankfan69 December 3rd, 2013 at 7:27 pm

    I’d be down with signing Cano, Ellsbury, and Infante…. And trading for Kemp

    CF – Ellsbury
    SS – Jeter
    2B – Cano
    RF – Kemp
    C – McCann
    DH – Soriano
    1B – Tex
    3B – Infante
    LF – Gardner

    I suppose I could live with that line up.

  117. Howler December 3rd, 2013 at 7:27 pm

    I’ll still believe Cano walks when he does…Rumors are basically Reporters and reporter wannabe’s finding something to do when the viagra bottle runs empty.

  118. champ809 December 3rd, 2013 at 7:27 pm

    blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:20 pm
    Choo BTW doesn’t get on base at a .420 clip every season. His career .obp is .389 vs. .359 for Beltran”

    Beltrans career numbers are irrelevant …..he had a .330 OBP last year and a sub .300 OBP vs LHP
    ——————————————————————————————–
    Choo had a sub .300 slugging % and a .612 ops vs. LHP

    Beltran slugged .483 and ops’d .814 vs. LHP

    Which would you rather have the guy that may work out a walk every now and then or the guy that takes ‘em out the park?

  119. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 7:28 pm

    Howler-

    I think your Mal has sources too.

    He hears things in the wind.

    And sniffs things out.

    ;)

  120. Howler December 3rd, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    Only problem is you don’t want what gets sniffed out..don’t think the Yankees do either…although she could teach them how to get the toilet paper off the roll :)

  121. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:31 pm

    “Which would you rather have the guy that may work out a walk every now and then or the guy that takes ‘em out the park?”

    Id rather have the 31 year old that gets on base 35 % of the time vs LHP and hits RHP like Cano than the 37 year old that gets on base 28 % of the time vs LHP and hits RHP not as good

  122. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2013 at 7:31 pm

    chicken – Yeah I don’t see how Cruz is a fit at the same or a higher price.

    I mean, I’m happy to get better however we can and Ellsbury would be an upgrade to our OF but I don’t want to hear this team crying poverty in a year if they do dole out more big money deals. I don’t want it to be ‘well we signed McCann and Ellsbury so we couldn’t afford Cano.’

    All spending money on Ellsbury tells me is they don’t care about money so just sign Cano too, dammit.

  123. Bret The Hitman December 3rd, 2013 at 7:31 pm

    Anybody consider that the 189 line insulates the Yankees from other teams? Not a cap for the Yankees or Dodgers or Red Sox (MLB’s bread and butter) but a cap for the rest, a line the others shall not cross. Look at these TV deals and YES. The money’s there.

  124. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 7:32 pm

    FOX Sports’ Jon Morosi reports that the Yankees have made a contract offer to Omar Infante.

  125. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2013 at 7:32 pm

    It sounds to me like the Yankees put out a bunch of offers at rates they feel comfortable with and are just waiting to see where the pieces fall…. still can’t believe this is the same team that, a year ago, didn’t give their GM any authority to make moves throughout the winter meetings.

  126. chicken_stanley December 3rd, 2013 at 7:33 pm

    Shame – well said!

  127. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:33 pm

    I really don’t see any logical argument that Beltran is a better player than Choo right now…..they are even at worst…..and given their ages Choo is much more likely to stay at this level

  128. Bret The Hitman December 3rd, 2013 at 7:33 pm

    SJ44 aka Joe Casale predicted Infante, as did I. Trisha knows.

  129. Howler December 3rd, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    It’s also a matter of years and dollars too though…in 5 or 6 years does everyone here start moaning how stupid the Yankees were for signing Cano to that A-rod style contract when they could’ve been using that money on Harper or someone similar. It’s what makes those extra few years important, it gives you more leverage down the line.

  130. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    I just read what Morosi and Olney were tweeting about.

    I wouldn’t get too excited.

    It sounds like the Yankees just threw a bunch of offers at the wall hoping something would stick.

    They aren’t going to get squat that way in this market.

    They make a valuation and offer it. Their valuations are not particularly attractive in a competitive environment.

    They are ordinary.

    Bargain hunters.

    :(

  131. Bret The Hitman December 3rd, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    Infante helps them hedge against Arod and Cano. Very convenient.

  132. Bret The Hitman December 3rd, 2013 at 7:35 pm

    MTU,

    Those are conversation starters, not final offers.

  133. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:35 pm

    Infante would be a great get

  134. CountryClub December 3rd, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    @RAKcity27: This Ellsbury thing, although a rumor at this stage, was confirmed from two separate sources close to organization.

    That’s the guy that writes for Bronx Pinstripes.

  135. Bret The Hitman December 3rd, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    Towel room guy does not qualify as a source close to the org

  136. Howler December 3rd, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    @RAKcity27: This Ellsbury thing, although a rumor at this stage, was confirmed from two separate sources close to organization.

    A ballboy, and the guy who cleans the toilets…sources close to an organization can mean anything, just someone looking to make a splash, stir things up, or make a name for themselves.

  137. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    Well he’s putting his rep out there…..if it’s true I’m not sure how I feel about it or what it means…..does it mean Gardner is on the way out? Does it mean he’s gonna play LF ? Does it mean they are moving on from Cano? Does if mean 189 is over and game on? Lot of questions to be answered if it’s true…..he makes them better no question though…..significantly so if healthy

  138. mick December 3rd, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    With Choo going to Det and Beltran to KC, it makes sense to grab Ellsbury and offer Infante as Cano looks gone.
    Either that or a classic bluff to Cano.
    Who plays RF?

  139. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:39 pm

    Ellsbury could just be coming for a visit as well and they got the wrong idea

  140. mick December 3rd, 2013 at 7:40 pm

    Can still get Cano and put Infante at 3rd, said it all along.

  141. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 7:40 pm

    Bret-

    Lot’s of teams have conversation starters.

    When you are trolling you need to put out quality bait right from the start if you want to land something.

    Standard offers represent poor chum.

    Lot’s of teams can do that.

    I think they just cast out a big net hoping something gets caught.

    Sounds to me like the net has loads of places to escape from.

    Poor fishing technique.

    This is Macy’s bargain basement.

    This is the big time. Rodeo drive dude.

    ;)

  142. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 7:41 pm

    ed: isn’t Macy’s

  143. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    If they got Ellsbury then they should sign Cano and put the full court press on for Kemp…..lineup would be awesome

  144. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    Mick-

    You said that you thought Infante wanted to be a 2b.

    And wanted a FT job.

    When I mentioned 3b you rejected that notion.

    ;)

  145. Against All Odds December 3rd, 2013 at 7:45 pm

    blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:42 pm
    If they got Ellsbury then they should sign Cano and put the full court press on for Kemp…..lineup would be awesome

    ——————-

    Team Greedy lives :D

  146. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:45 pm

    Ellsbury CF
    Jeter SS
    Cano 2
    Kemp RF
    McCann C
    Soriano DH
    Tex 1B
    Infante 3B
    Gardner LF

    That’s a scary club

  147. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    And you were worried about him getting enough AB’s.

    I assured it wouldn’t be a problem.

  148. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 7:47 pm

    blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:45 pm
    Ellsbury CF
    Jeter SS
    Cano 2
    Kemp RF
    McCann C
    Soriano DH
    Tex 1B
    Infante 3B
    Gardner LF

    That’s a scary club
    —————————————
    they could club their way to the playoffs but once you get there you need SPing

  149. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 7:47 pm

    I think your excitement might be premature.

    No said anyone is taking any of these multiple offers.

    The fact that they made so many dilutes their seriousness IMO.

    ;)

  150. charlestonchew December 3rd, 2013 at 7:48 pm

    My god. Did the Yankees really sign McCann for 5/85 when they could have gotten Salty for 3/21?

    Just think about that for a second. Is McCann really THAT much better than Saltalamacchia? We’d have money freed up to pursue Choo or Granderson had we not taken the McCann leap so prematurely.

    Salty’s deal, as well as Nathan’s, proves to be a bit of a headscratcher for me. You have to think Nathan could have gotten at least $13 per season and Salty at least 10. I wonder what this says about Infante and Drew… perhaps they can be had for more reasonable sums?

  151. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:48 pm

    That club has everything….speed , power, average, on base , great OF defense…..

  152. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 7:48 pm

    Unless 189 is a thing of the past.

    Which still remains to be seen.

    ;)

  153. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 7:49 pm

    Calm yourself down Blake.

    Have a drink.

    :)

  154. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 7:50 pm

    blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:48 pm
    That club has everything….speed , power, average, on base , great OF defense…..
    ———————————
    who’s pitching for them

  155. Wave Your Hat December 3rd, 2013 at 7:50 pm

    I’m leery of Infante, the Yanks would be paying him off basically his best season.

  156. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:50 pm

    joeman says:
    December 3, 2013 at 7:50 pm
    blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:48 pm
    That club has everything….speed , power, average, on base , great OF defense…..
    ———————————
    who’s pitching for them”

    Sabathia, Kuroda, tanaka. garza, nova .

    Hey if were busting the budget the. Just bust it

  157. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:51 pm

    MTU,
    I got some sweet tea!

  158. Captain Clutch December 3rd, 2013 at 7:51 pm

    Hopefully $189m is out the door….

  159. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 7:53 pm

    I want Infante.

    Dude made 4 Mil last year.

    Think he’s worth 10 or more per ?

    That’s more than double what he made.

    Is he twice as good now.

  160. joeman December 3rd, 2013 at 7:53 pm

    gtg..don’t miss me

  161. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 7:56 pm

    I think the Yankees are throwing stuff at the wall.

    Seeing what sticks.

    I’m not impressed.

    The scattergun approach isn’t going to bag much of anything in this market.

    You need some focus.

    ;)

  162. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    Joeman-

    Say hi to your source for me.

    Buy ‘em a drink.

    :)

  163. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 7:58 pm

    Steve said 189 was toast.

    Maybe he’s right ?

    Then again, maybe not ?

  164. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 7:59 pm

    Joe man,
    It’s not the same sources that assured us Cliff Lee would be a Yankee is if? ;)

  165. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 8:01 pm

    It’s been an exciting OS so far.

    Promises to get better.

    Hope we are a big part of it.

    :)

  166. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    Gonna start getting really cold around here tomorrow.

    I hate cold.

    :(

  167. pkyankfan69 December 3rd, 2013 at 8:04 pm

    We have 50′s all week in NJ… A treat this time of year!

  168. Howler December 3rd, 2013 at 8:05 pm

    I’m getting it today…thought I was crazy walking the dog in it today until I watched someone jog by me wearing shorts.

  169. mick December 3rd, 2013 at 8:06 pm

    I want Infante.
    ========
    No you want Phillips.
    Trade him for Gardner.
    Get Ellsbury.
    Yanks know no cano.
    Get Grandy to play RF.

  170. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 8:07 pm

    20 degree drop by tomorrow.

    That sucks.

    I’m such a wimp.

    :)

  171. mick December 3rd, 2013 at 8:08 pm

    When I mentioned 3b you rejected that notion.
    =================
    If they went for him now it would be as a 2B.
    Cano is gone.

  172. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 8:10 pm

    Mick-

    I was and am fine w Infante.

    Phillips is an excellent alternative.

    We don’t need to trade GGBG to get Phillips.

    And I don’t think Ellsbury is worth that much more than GGBG.

    He only had one year where he looked like a Superstar.

    Who knows why ?

    ;)

  173. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 8:12 pm

    Mick-

    didn’t you just say Cano and Infante above ?

    See your 7:40 post.

    Cano at 2b and Infante at 3b.

    ;)

  174. mick December 3rd, 2013 at 8:12 pm

    ellsbury
    jeter

    mccann
    soriano
    tex
    grandy
    phillips
    reynolds/nunez
    ibanez dh

  175. Howler December 3rd, 2013 at 8:13 pm

    I like Grandy, but I wouldn’t want to have him for another 3 years..and I’d hate to sign him and trade him away next year. I’d like to be able to think one of the kids would be able to make an impact. Aside from Heathcott into a wall.

  176. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 8:14 pm

    Getting Ellsbury and McCann is kinda pointless if you don’t keep Cano….

  177. mick December 3rd, 2013 at 8:14 pm

    they get infante if cano is gone.

  178. mick December 3rd, 2013 at 8:15 pm

    then they get cano back and put infante at 3rd

  179. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 8:15 pm

    Infante can do a lot of things…..he’d be good to have around

  180. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 8:16 pm

    Bet braves wish they could have that Infante for Uggla trade back

  181. chicken_stanley December 3rd, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    I’ve been investigating… I have the following on good authority:

    *GGBG was once allowed to pull into a lane and didn’t give the “thank you wave”
    *He regularly uses the the salad fork as the entree fork and vice versa
    *He has the audacity to think Simon Cowell’s departure from American Idol was no big deal

    I’ve got to verify with my sources but the more I dig, the uglier it gets. This guy is an anethema! he must go :D

  182. mick December 3rd, 2013 at 8:19 pm

    they better do something soon as they are dropping like flies

  183. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 8:19 pm

    Infante also hits lefties pretty well and that’s something they may need

  184. pkyankfan69 December 3rd, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    The Yankees are closing in on a seven-year deal with Jacoby Ellsbury, according to Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com.

  185. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    @JonHeymanCBS: Ellsbury and Yankees appear to be closing in on 7-year deal. http://t.co/BTOZbSjieJ

    There it is

  186. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    Whoa …..I love it and hate it

  187. pkyankfan69 December 3rd, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    Star free agent outfielder Jacoby Ellsbury is in serious talks with the Yankees and the sides appear to be close to reaching a seven-year deal. sources said.

    “It could happen,” said someone familiar with the talks.

    It is believed the deal would exceeed Carl Crawford’s $142-million, seven-year deal
    —————
    yikes

  188. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 8:21 pm

    “they better do something soon as they are dropping like flies”

    Iacocca said it best, “lead, follow, or get out of the way.”

    Which one describes the Yankees ?

    ;)

  189. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 8:21 pm

    Man that’s a lot of years

  190. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 8:22 pm

    What are they doing?

  191. Yankee Trader December 3rd, 2013 at 8:22 pm

    MTU

    What happened in Cincy, that the Reds would consider trading Phillips?

  192. mick December 3rd, 2013 at 8:23 pm

    ellsbury in gardner out

  193. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2013 at 8:23 pm

    @ChrisCotillo Jacoby Ellsbury is closing in on a seven-year deal with the #Yankees, according to @JonHeymanCBS.

    ….the f*ck??

    How I feel about this deal will depend on if they retain Cano. If they let Cano walk after handing out a 7 year deal to Ellsbury, I’m done.

  194. Against All Odds December 3rd, 2013 at 8:23 pm

    WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

  195. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 8:23 pm

    Holy crap.

    Never mind.

    Looks like the Yankees want to lead.

    ;)

  196. Yankee Trader December 3rd, 2013 at 8:24 pm

    Is an Ellsbury signing a preclude to a trade of Gardner to add another “piece?”

  197. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 8:24 pm

    They must be getting ready to blow thru 189.

    Or they have given up on Cano.

    That is going to be a huge contract.

  198. Against All Odds December 3rd, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    blake December 3rd, 2013 at 8:22 pm
    What are they doing?

    —————–

    Telling everyone 189 is gone??

  199. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    This team is still better with Gardner than without him for 2014…

  200. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    GGBG for whom ?

  201. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    @AndrewMarchand: Yankees in “serious” discussions with Boras over Ellsbury and Choo. They prefer Ellsbury, I’m told. @JonHeymanCBS said deal close with JE

    Both?

  202. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    WHERE IS PAT M.????

  203. CountryClub December 3rd, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    I must be getting old. I can’t imagine how somebody like Ellsbury is worth $20 million a year. And that’s not even a dig at the Yankees. It’s just what these players are worth in this market. It’s mind-boggling.

  204. pkyankfan69 December 3rd, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    If we are giving $150M to Ellsbury we better also sign Cano and forget about the $189M BS

  205. yankeefeminista December 3rd, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    “How I feel about this deal will depend on if they retain Cano. If they let Cano walk after handing out a 7 year deal to Ellsbury, I’m done.”
    ___
    This.

  206. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    P.S. I can’t believe they rate Ellsbury as that much better than GGBG.

  207. Against All Odds December 3rd, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    Joeman is right again

  208. bigdan22 December 3rd, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    On Jeter, Ryan and SS:

    “Cashman also appeared to downplay his pursuit of shortstop Stephen Drew. He reiterated the team intends for Derek Jeter to handle that position. The re-acquisition of defensive stalwart Brendan Ryan creates insurance as Jeter returns from career-altering leg issues in 2013. In Ryan, Cashman said, “we feel that we can run a guy out there that’s used to being an every-day shortstop, and we know at least he’ll catch the ball.”

    “I wouldn’t close us out on anything,” he said. “But obviously we have bigger needs than focusing on an area we already have two players manning.””

    Hope this ends all this silly talk about Drew or Castro or anyone else. It’s Jeter’s job. Then it’s Ryan’s job. Then it’s Nunie’s job!!

    Cano:

    That Wallace article was very interesting. If we can believe it, and I’m not sure we can, the Yanks will for the first time be acting like a principled entity. Drawing a line based totally on reason. Months ago I said the right number for Cano was 6/150. After that, they need to let him walk. They cannot continue this cycle of paying huge salaries to players in their late 30s. From this article, it appears the Yanks’ line is 7/170-75. Ok but will they stick to it? Like Chad pointed out earlier, this could just be a lot of posturing. I hope not. If they Yanks can really draw the line with Cano, it will have positive effects throughout all their operations for years to come.

    Old man Beltran:

    Very disappointing to me the Yanks would even consider making old man Beltran a multi-year deal. Once again, more of the same bad policy of over-paying old, downside players who may not be even be able to DH let alone play the field. Hopefully KC cleans up this mess.

    Choo/Ellsbury:

    Could def see Choo going to Detroit. I’ve often said I thought he’d be the best OF choice for the Yanks. I’ve never been a real fan of Ellsbury. But I didn’t like O’Neill much when he joined the Yanks. Would be nice sticking it to the Sox. Obviously if Cano walks, the Yanks will need one of these two guys. Or maybe Grandy but I don’t think the Yanks want him back. If Ellsbury comes on board, would like to see Gardy traded for prospects.

    Pitching:

    Tanaka looks out to me. I hear Kuroda will let the Yanks know before Christmas. Just hope they are working on someone else. This is the primary need.

  209. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 8:27 pm

    This better not mean no cano or it’s pointless

  210. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2013 at 8:27 pm

    Honestly, I just don’t see how they don’t keep Cano after this… you’re going to give Ellsbury seven years and not go eight for Cano??

    I’m just gonna assume $189 is officially dead and everyone can pat themselves on the back for realizing it was the dumbest idea the Yankees have had since Dandy.

  211. mick December 3rd, 2013 at 8:27 pm

    ellsbury
    jeter
    mccann
    soriano
    tex
    ibanez
    phillips
    reynolds
    nunez

  212. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    I agree.

    If they are offering a huge contract to JE they have to up their offer for Robbie.

  213. Captain Clutch December 3rd, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    Please tell me this is a joke. 7 years for a guy that is always hurt. If it’ ellsbury and cano fine but it is probably one or the other. Ouch this deal stinks.

  214. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    150 million for Ellsbury is insane….cano might get that 250

  215. CountryClub December 3rd, 2013 at 8:29 pm

    I’m all for the Yankees holding the line on Cano. I don’t think they should be giving anybody eight years anymore. But it’s hard to defend not giving Cano 8 years when they’re willing to give somebody as injury prone as Ellsbury seven years.

  216. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2013 at 8:29 pm

    So: Gardner, Ellsbury, and Sori/Ichi are your OFers?

    If they move Gardner, they’re sort of back where they started with Ellsbury, Sori, Ichi/Wells as their OFers, so for now I hope they keep him.

  217. Yankee Trader December 3rd, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    Looking at his splits. At least the .911 OPS will disappear vs Yankees.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/.....y-ellsbury

  218. Captain Clutch December 3rd, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    If ellsbury is getting $140 then you have to give cano $200m or whatever it will take to sign him. I will be really pissed if this means that cano is gone

  219. yankeefeminista December 3rd, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    150 for Ellsbury is certifiable.

  220. chicken_stanley December 3rd, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    I’ll go on record for this:

    If the Yankees sign Ellsbury, I’ll root for him as though he was my son… that being said, I think its a mistake

  221. mick December 3rd, 2013 at 8:31 pm

    The Yankees’ deal with Ellsbury is done, pending a physical. I’m told the contract is bigger than Crawford’s 7 year/$142M deal.

  222. Doreen December 3rd, 2013 at 8:31 pm

    Giving the money they offered Cano to Ellsbury?????? Ellsbury??????? 7 years??? Hope he stays healthy.

  223. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2013 at 8:31 pm

    I hope they just sign everyone (McCann, Cano, Choo, Ellsbury, Tanaka, Kuroda, Infante) and win the world series so everyone can cry about how much money we have.

  224. Captain Clutch December 3rd, 2013 at 8:31 pm

    Ewww…this move stinks.

  225. Mike in Harrisburg December 3rd, 2013 at 8:31 pm

    Genuinely shocked at Ellsbury news. Not necessarily in a good way. At least Cano is robust and stays healthy.

  226. bigdan22 December 3rd, 2013 at 8:31 pm

    CountryClub December 3rd, 2013 at 8:29 pm

    “I’m all for the Yankees holding the line on Cano. I don’t think they should be giving anybody eight years anymore. But it’s hard to defend not giving Cano 8 years when they’re willing to give somebody as injury prone as Ellsbury seven years.”

    I totally agree. I was writing my long post when this stuff came in on a 7 year deal for Ellsbury. Things move fast in these parts. That’s too long. I wouldn’t give that to Choo either.

  227. CountryClub December 3rd, 2013 at 8:31 pm

    @FeinsandNYDN: The Yankees’ deal with Ellsbury is done, pending a physical. I’m told the contract is bigger than Crawford’s 7 year/$142M deal.

  228. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 8:31 pm

    YF-

    :)

  229. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2013 at 8:32 pm

    Wait where is the $150 number coming from?!

    Holy cow….

  230. RhapsodyInBlue December 3rd, 2013 at 8:32 pm

    Oh no fake randy.

    Spare us please.

  231. Captain Clutch December 3rd, 2013 at 8:32 pm

    This screams like a move just to spend money. I would rather have Beltran for 3 years.

  232. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 8:32 pm

    OMG.

    Insane.

  233. Doreen December 3rd, 2013 at 8:32 pm

    Because Ellsbury is going to put as man fannies in the seats as Cano? Seriously not liking this.

  234. Bret The Hitman December 3rd, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS

  235. njsketch December 3rd, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    mlbtraderumors reporting yankees sign ellsbury

    wow!

  236. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    CountryClub December 3rd, 2013 at 8:31 pm

    @FeinsandNYDN: The Yankees’ deal with Ellsbury is done, pending a physical. I’m told the contract is bigger than Crawford’s 7 year/$142M deal.

    ——————

    What in the hell…. to think, we spent all our time trying to find a cost effective way to make this off season work.

    Sign Cano for $200 million, get Infante on board, extend Gardner, and sign ALL the pitchers.

  237. Captain Clutch December 3rd, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    I think that $189m is out the window. Cano signing is next…I can’t see them signing Ellsbury and letting Cano go.

  238. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    @JeffPassan: Source: Any deal with Jacoby Ellsbury or an outfielder does not preclude Yankees from re-signing Robinson Cano. Still very much in play.

  239. RhapsodyInBlue December 3rd, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    189 is in the rear view.

    Yeehaw!!!

  240. Bret The Hitman December 3rd, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    ELLLLLSBURYYYYY!!!!!!

    GARDNER OUT

  241. Against All Odds December 3rd, 2013 at 8:34 pm

    CountryClub December 3rd, 2013 at 8:31 pm
    @FeinsandNYDN: The Yankees’ deal with Ellsbury is done, pending a physical. I’m told the contract is bigger than Crawford’s 7 year/$142M deal.

    ——————

    Jesus.

    I hope it means they are all in.

  242. Captain Clutch December 3rd, 2013 at 8:34 pm

    @JeffPassan

    Source: Any deal with Jacoby Ellsbury or an outfielder does not preclude Yankees from re-signing Robinson Cano. Still very much in play.

  243. Bret The Hitman December 3rd, 2013 at 8:34 pm

    JOEMAN!!!! YOU DA MAN!!!

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  245. bigdan22 December 3rd, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    Hey stop right there! Under no circumstances do you give Cano, or anyone else for that matter, a bad deal because you gave Ellsbury one. That’s totally illogical.

    Be that as it may, I think this means the Yanks have cut off Cano. And I’m not sure this is all about money or budget either.

  246. Yankee Trader December 3rd, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    20M and 7 years will now be the going rate for Choo

  247. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    189 is toast just like Wanzies222 said it would be.

    God bless Steve.

    Owings next ?

    :)

  248. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    I guess they didn’t learn from Carl Crawford ….hope this works out but it seems awfully not smart

  249. pkyankfan69 December 3rd, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    Cano better be next… Bye Bye 189

  250. Captain Clutch December 3rd, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    Are the Yanks trying to sign Ellsbury and Choo? Confused…

  251. yankeefeminista December 3rd, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    Cano better not only be in play, but playing in the Bronx in 2014.

  252. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    Is that real randy..? Or an imposter?

  253. Shame Spencer December 3rd, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    :arrow:

  254. yankeefeminista December 3rd, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    blake, awfully not smart. Nice euphemism. But yeah.

  255. Doreen December 3rd, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    Shame, the only way I could end up liking his is if they still sign Cano and everyone else.

    But even then, here they go again with too many too long contracts.

    Problem is, this is the market, and what can you do? pass on everyone because teams are willing to go 3 years for Carlos Beltran, as an example?

    I’d rather have Granderson back.

  256. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    If they could flip Garnder for Headley that would be amazing …..otherwise and outfield with Gardner in LF and Ellsbury in CF would be probably the best defensively in baseball

  257. blake December 3rd, 2013 at 8:37 pm

    Shame Spencer says:
    December 3, 2013 at 8:36 pm
    Is that real randy..? Or an imposter?

    Doubt it’s him

  258. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 8:37 pm

    Blake-

    I can understand your concerns and I definitely share them.

    He is definitely not worth that much more than GGBG.

    It’s absurd.

  259. J. Alfred Prufrock December 3rd, 2013 at 8:37 pm

    7 years to Jacoby Ellsbury??

    He’s 30, injury susceptible, and although he’s a decent hitter, is big tool is speed.

    Beautiful.

    Meanwhile, they don’t want to give their superstar 30-year old iron man 2B an eighth year…

    They had better be signing Cano.

  260. RhapsodyInBlue December 3rd, 2013 at 8:37 pm

    fake randy.

    real randy had a big problem with apologies.

  261. MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 8:38 pm

    New one ——->

  262. Yankee Trader December 3rd, 2013 at 8:38 pm

    There has to be another deal in the works. No way they are going with only one power bat in the OF.

  263. J. Alfred Prufrock December 3rd, 2013 at 8:38 pm

    blake December 3rd, 2013 at 8:37 pm

    Shame Spencer says:
    December 3, 2013 at 8:36 pm
    Is that real randy..? Or an imposter?

    Doubt it’s him
    ///

    Fat chance.

    Maybe after the Pod People worked him over…

  264. CountryClub December 3rd, 2013 at 8:40 pm

    @MarcCarig: Source says no deal with Ellsbury but Yankees are indeed in serious talks. Also said there has been dialogue re: Choo.

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    MTU December 3rd, 2013 at 7:57 pm
    Joeman-

    Say hi to your source for me.

    Buy ‘em a drink.
    ————————–
    I did

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