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The significance and the lesson of 10 years

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 06, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Robinson Cano

Ten years made all the difference for the Yankees and Robinson Cano.

In trying to write for tomorrow’s newspaper about how a powerhouse organization could let its best player walk away, that specific period of time popped up time and again, always directly related to the cautionary tale of Alex Rodriguez. It’s not only the length of the contract the Yankees current regret and refused to give again, it’s also the length of time the Yankees spent truly discovering the unpredictability of a decade.

• It was 10 years ago that the Yankees traded for Rodriguez. At the time, he was arguably the best all-around player in the game. He’d been healthy and productive and consistent. He was a Hall of Famer in his prime. In the course of that decade, Rodriguez’s numbers plummeted, his health faded, and his reputation was ripped to shreds. He was an MVP, and then he was an embarrassment, all in the span of a decade.

• It was also 10 years ago that Cano entered his final full season in the minors. He was a good prospect, but not a great one. Baseball America never ranked him in its Top 100 and never put him at the top of their Yankees organizational list. Cano had been a pro for three years and had never hit close to .300 or slugged any better than .437. He was nearly a part of that Rodriguez trade, but Texas didn’t want him. Ten years later, he was the best free agent on the market and the best second baseman in the game.

• It was a 10-year contract that Rodriguez signed in December of 2007, when he was 32 — one year older than Cano is now — and coming off his third MVP award in five seasons. It was and still is the largest contract in baseball history, but six years later, its length is referenced as often as its value. How do the Yankees still have four years of this before the deal comes to a merciful end?

• It was also a 10-year contract that Cano wanted and finally received in Seattle. There’s been so much talk about the Yankees and the luxury tax, but the Yankees were actually willing to top the average annual value of Cano’s massive contract. They just didn’t want to commit for so many years. It was the decade more than the money that stirred concerns.

Obviously seven years with Jacoby Ellsbury is a risky investment. Even five years with Brian McCann is far from a sure thing. But 10 years doesn’t seem to be an entirely arbitrary cutoff point in the case of Cano. It’s a fairly specific amount of time that seems to carry specific meaning in terms of lessons learned and standards set.

For better and for worse, forecasting 10 years into the future is tricky business. The Yankees couldn’t do it, and they’re stuck with A-Rod. The Rangers couldn’t do it, and they were left with Joaquin Arias.

For better and for worse, the Mariners are stuck with Cano.

And the Yankees are stuck without him.

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230 Responses to “The significance and the lesson of 10 years”

  1. mick December 6th, 2013 at 8:52 pm

    They did to Cano what they should have done with Arod.

  2. mick December 6th, 2013 at 8:54 pm

    Cano will be traded within 3 years.

  3. MTU December 6th, 2013 at 8:55 pm

    Nicely done Chad.

    You nailed it.

    ;)

  4. Against All Odds December 6th, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    Giuseppe Franco December 6th, 2013 at 8:51 pm
    Against All Odds December 6th, 2013 at 8:45 pm

    ——————

    This is the Yankees an organization always looking to upgrade and takes players from other teams without losing sleep over it.

    —–

    That’s the irony of this situation that a lot of fans don’t seem to grasp.

    ——————

    Not grasping it at all. There is a youtube video with a fan burning a Cano jersey calling him greedy lol what!!!!!!!!!!!

  5. MTU December 6th, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    Mick-

    He has a full NTC.

    ;)

  6. mick December 6th, 2013 at 8:57 pm

    The Yanks have a lot of rebuilding to do and Cano would have fit into the plan but some reason they thought they could do it without him.

    Some day the truth will come out and we might have some answers if not just about the money.

  7. luis December 6th, 2013 at 8:58 pm

    Good post Chad… I agree 10 years and 240 mil is crazy

    emmy,

    To be fair, we don’t know if Cano would have stayed with a contract of 8/200… That’s speculation on your part… But I do agree that the Yankees didn’t handle the negotiations very well

  8. mick December 6th, 2013 at 8:58 pm

    mtu
    he could waive it.
    and will when he gets disgusted.

  9. MTU December 6th, 2013 at 9:01 pm

    The Yankee’s next move will be:

    1) An Of’er

    2) A 3b

    3) A 2b

    4) A closer

    5) a SP

    6) None of the above

  10. Pat M. December 6th, 2013 at 9:02 pm

    MTU…..He’ll be willing to waive that no clause when it’s time to bolt the great northwest. Does anyone know when The Tin Cup’s ban from the LoHud will expire ????

  11. pkyankfan69 December 6th, 2013 at 9:04 pm

    Man it hurts to lose Robbie… One of my favorites… A guy I would have love to have seen added to monument park in 12 or so years… I was pissed today that he took the money for sure but I get it and wish him well… I must admit though, I do hope the M’s suck major balls moving forward though (likely)

  12. luis December 6th, 2013 at 9:04 pm

    Pat M,

    I don’t think he is coming back… We wrote to each other and told me so

  13. Triple Short of a Cycle December 6th, 2013 at 9:04 pm

    Hope Cano enjoys old timers day in Seattle.

  14. luis December 6th, 2013 at 9:05 pm

    You should write to him by the way

  15. jmills December 6th, 2013 at 9:05 pm

    Cano has power, more than Molitor had. Alomar, Cano, Molitor, and whoever else.

  16. luis December 6th, 2013 at 9:05 pm

    Odds,

    SMH

  17. Cashmoney December 6th, 2013 at 9:06 pm

    I think it comes down to Yanks don’t want to commit 4 more years on a 37 year player, be it Cano or really anyone else in the post steroid era.

  18. luis December 6th, 2013 at 9:07 pm

    Cashmoney,

    And they right to do so

  19. jmills December 6th, 2013 at 9:07 pm

    I guess I’m forgetting, Sandberg,…I should not have :)

  20. Yes You McCann December 6th, 2013 at 9:07 pm

    Even if Cano waived his NTC, what team is going want that albatross contract? The Dodgers, maybe.

  21. luis December 6th, 2013 at 9:08 pm

    *And they are right to do so*… Sorry

  22. jmills December 6th, 2013 at 9:09 pm

    Joe Morgan,… I was too young to remember him. I do remember Damaso Garcia from you guys up here. My first great 2nd b-man!

  23. MTU December 6th, 2013 at 9:09 pm

    I’m betting OF’er.

    ;)

  24. Cashmoney December 6th, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    the context one need to look at with these mega deals are how old the player is, their position, whether they will age well along with if their skill depreciation will accelerate faster than the dollar depreciation in the mlb marketplace.

    time to move on… i think yanks did the right thing in this case be it accidentally or willfully.

  25. mick December 6th, 2013 at 9:11 pm

    @AndrewMarchand

    Hal: Kuroda returning to Yankees in 2014

  26. jmv December 6th, 2013 at 9:12 pm

    Hello again!

    Sorry I didn’t reply your greetings, went out for dinner.

    Excellent post, Chad. And kudos to FO. 10 years is insane.

  27. jmv December 6th, 2013 at 9:13 pm

    Hiro, yes!!!

    Can he start the season in May?

    Just saying…

  28. chicken_stanley December 6th, 2013 at 9:13 pm

    I’m betting OF’er.

    ———-

    I 2nd that emotion :)

    I think Beltran once again becomes target #1… combine that with a Gardner trade… I think that’s where we stand

  29. MTU December 6th, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    Mick-

    That is old news.

    Their was an MLBTR story on it.

    16 Mil = incentives.

  30. MTU December 6th, 2013 at 9:15 pm

    sp: there

  31. jmills December 6th, 2013 at 9:15 pm

    jmv, I can’t wait to take you for a drive in the ’91 Prelude! :) Naomi Watts and gilles villeneuve will be there in spirit.

  32. MTU December 6th, 2013 at 9:16 pm

    Glenn-

    We have quite a few to choose from.

    Should be fun.

    :)

  33. Bronx Jeers December 6th, 2013 at 9:17 pm

    10 seasons

    1 World Series win
    3 ALCS losses
    4 ALDS losses
    2 missed postseasons

    6-7 record in post season series.

  34. Captain Clutch December 6th, 2013 at 9:17 pm

    How come this never happens with the Yanks?
    ———-

    @Ken_Rosenthal

    Source: Napoli took less to stay with #RedSox. Earlier today talks were at a critical stage. He had at least one bigger offer.

  35. Giuseppe Franco December 6th, 2013 at 9:17 pm

    Cashmoney December 6th, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    the context one need to look at with these mega deals are how old the player is, their position, whether they will age well along with if their skill depreciation will accelerate faster than the dollar depreciation in the mlb marketplace.

    —-

    That criteria is perfectly reasonable.

    But at the same time it doesn’t make a lot of sense using that same criteria to conclude that Ellsbury (who isn’t half the player Cano is) was worth the deal he got.

    The front office really needs to adapt and change the way they do business (such as ending their “no extensions midseason” policy).

  36. UpState December 6th, 2013 at 9:18 pm

    luis December 6th, 2013 at 8:36 pm
    UpState,

    I read your post of last night… When I said that they weren’t committed, it was because they still had the WS or bust mandate… That affected development in more ways than you think and most of them not in a good way… If we are to rebuild the farm and commit to it, we may need to put winning at all cost in the back burner for a few seasons… In other words, we need a couple of bad seasons to start doing it… I don’ think most of Yankee fan would be onboard with this
    =====================================

    It’s tough, Luis, to tank some seasons to get better draft pick number.
    As long as MLB maintains their philosophy of rewarding poor results with easier access to the top ‘suspects’ – the NYY will almost never get the chance to draft a ‘sure-shot well identified’ player.
    Then the International marketplace is where the Yankees can/should put their scouting to better use….every team knows the ‘stud’ pitcher from South Carolina. The Yankees have NO SHOT at him. (he may turn out to be a bust – but there’s ZIPPO chance the Yanks have a chance at him).
    The SPAASM (self-proclaimed and actual small market) teams have even choked off the idea of ‘paying over slot’.
    Virtually every recent MLB rule change or modification has had an adverse effect on the Yankees.
    The LT was installed (and to a reasonable degree understandable) specifically to choke the Yankees.
    Other teams are slowly catching up to that threshold – so don’t be shocked if the SPAASM teams vote to change the threshold so as to ONLY clobber the NYY.
    (LA may soon get caught in that whirlpool) …
    So how can the Yankee Organization continue to keep a competing team on the field without tanking seasons to get better picks – Free Agency.
    Free Agency tied to LOSING draft picks and PAYING a L-Tax.
    That’s where they are.
    With all the b1tching about “buying a championship” is all BS.
    Look at the likes of the Cards and the Giants….they should be encouraging the NYY to spend big, so they can say “see, big payrolls don’t always win, OUR way is best”.
    If that becomes a ‘bragging announcement’ then all the Anti-Yankee rules simply seem ‘spiteful’ and….” Holy Clap – we might not get any of the NYY L-Tax monies !”
    The SPAASM teams rule – with their leadership, and the NYY’s refusal to ‘tank’ for a few years, the Yankees will continue to use the Free Agency option as best they can.
    Their minor leagues….hey – you gotta get lucky. Drafting ‘suspects’ (outside of the slam-dunks) are all lucky or un-lucky crapshoots !

    That’s part of the reasons of why alot of our minor league players end up sucking.

  37. Triple Short of a Cycle December 6th, 2013 at 9:18 pm

    Source: Napoli took less to stay with #RedSox. Earlier today talks were at a critical stage. He had at least one bigger offer.

    ——————————-

    According to some on here the player always takes the most money and we can’t fault them for it

  38. pete2 December 6th, 2013 at 9:19 pm

    I will say the problem with Arods contract is due to the colossal failure of the farm system in not providing young cost controlled players to subsidize the final years which everybody knew at the time would not be productive ones for Arod. The 10 year deal for Arod helped get the Yankees a ring in 2009, the only ring in the 21st century I might add. No risk no reward.

    Imagine if the Yankees were getting an additional 15 WAR from cost controlled players at a cost of 20 million? Instead that same 15 WAR costs 70 million more when acquired via free agency. The Arods contract is not even a story.

    The Yankees lost a chance to get a 6-8 WAR player for about 3-4 million per WAR in the enxt few years for fear of what might be in 2022. How much is 24 million AAV worth in 2022? Maybe 18 million or less in 2014 dollars.

    For a team with revenues of over 500 million per Bloomberg, and who knows what it will be in 2022, maybe close to 700 million, then risking less than 4% of that is not an enormous risk.

  39. chicken_stanley December 6th, 2013 at 9:19 pm

    Mike – I’m probably in the minority but I’m still excited about the possibilities!

  40. Yes You McCann December 6th, 2013 at 9:19 pm

    Yes You McCann December 6th, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    Mike Napoli is shipping right back up to Boston. He didn’t play for the Yankees, so Jack Z isn’t interested in scooping him away from the Red Sox.

  41. emmy December 6th, 2013 at 9:19 pm

    Luis,

    True. But it would have been a hell of a lot easier to swallow if the Yankees’ offer wouldn’t have been so mediocre in comparison to the Mariners’.

    I might be delusional, but I stay there’s still hope. Yankees gotta pull some more money out of the cap, this weekend.

    The big-lipped agent should have fun rhyming about Seattle. Will never listen to his crap again, not that I ever really liked him.

  42. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West December 6th, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    Kuroda finished the season much more like the pitcher he is….Im not sure why you all think it’s so awesome to have signed an almost 40 yr old to a 16 million dollar contract. I know, I know, who else is there?

  43. jmv December 6th, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    Jmills!

    I’d rather take Naomi, of course, LOL

  44. MTU December 6th, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    Glenn-

    We are.

    Shouldn’t be though.

    Stay tuned.

    :)

  45. Cashmoney December 6th, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    GF, i said it many times, Yanks need to produce internally, find new ways to procure talents. Right now, Yanks got one move which is buy off the inflated FA market.

  46. jmills December 6th, 2013 at 9:22 pm

    jmv, after Naomi gets properly divorced, she’s mine ! :)

  47. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West December 6th, 2013 at 9:24 pm

    from @LostNYY

    Jayz first choice was Cano to stay in NY mentioned a performance bonus type contract. Cano wanted his money in any uni period!

  48. Against All Odds December 6th, 2013 at 9:24 pm

    Captain Clutch December 6th, 2013 at 9:17 pm
    How come this never happens with the Yanks?

    ——————-

    The way the team is built. It’s built on hired guns and guys from other clubs. It’s probably the reason the Sox moved Gonzalez and Crawford. They got back into the all for one non sense and the moves they did make were all on shorter deals. Losing Cano stings less if you have a player at 2nd or another position to step in because you can always preach no one is above the team.

  49. comet December 6th, 2013 at 9:24 pm

    I don’t know if Randy wants to come back Pat, bit I hope he does.

    You are right about great posters we’ve lost plus all the women scared off.

    I think Cano wanted the money pure and simple. I don’t know his background but coming from the DR he was probably poor as a kid. Who can blame him for taking $65 million more. If he had wanted to stay a Yankee he would have told his agent to go back to the Yankees and see if he could get $200 for 8 years. To the best of my knowledge that didn’t happen.

    Cano is a great player and I really hate to lose him. The extra dollars and years were more than I would have wanted the Yankees to go. I hope Cano does well in Seattle and enjoys it there.

  50. Giuseppe Franco December 6th, 2013 at 9:24 pm

    Kuroda was money all season (in fact, during his entire Yankee tenure) until he ran out of gas the last 6 weeks of the season.

    Since the Yanks had 3 holes in the starting rotation, they could do a whole lot worse than bringing Kuroda back.

    Now they still need to fill 2 more holes and this market ain’t all that impressive if Tanaka isn’t posted.

  51. MTU December 6th, 2013 at 9:25 pm

    Glenn-

    Beltran, Choo, Cruz, Hart, Kemp, etc.

    Looks pretty good to me.

    Pick 1, or 2.

    ;)

  52. Pat M. December 6th, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    luis… I just did and Doreen filled me in on what transpired. I was away in Monterey when this happened apparently. And to think all that he went through ( as several of us did ) and all that the blog went through with CR ( 9 ) and suddenly Tin Cup gets whacked . And then today Jerkface tells me that if I don’t straighten up I too will end up in the ” Bone Yard ” with Randy L. That was my first hearing of the ban and to be warned by that chump is an issue for me.. I guess it’s the new world order at The LoHud

  53. Giuseppe Franco December 6th, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    Cashmoney December 6th, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    GF, i said it many times, Yanks need to produce internally, find new ways to procure talents. Right now, Yanks got one move which is buy off the inflated FA market.

    —–

    I’ve preached the same thing. They can’t build a sustainable winner via free agency alone. Those days are long gone.

    But since they suck at producing their own right now they are bent over a barrel going the FA route.

  54. Yes You McCann December 6th, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    Napoli had a 3 year deal on the table last season from the Red Sox, the Red Sox took it back and gave him a 1 year deal.

    Instead of Napoli being angry and feeling slighted, no.

    Napoli went on to establish himself as healthy and one of the better hitting 1B in the league, and he settled for less years and money with them again.

  55. jacksquat December 6th, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    if you think the Yankees raising their offer to 8/200 would have made any difference then I know someone who has a great opportunity with subprime loan investments.

  56. pkyankfan69 December 6th, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    MTU,

    Def pick 2… Hopefully 2 of Beltran/Choo/Kemp although Hart could prove to be the best value

  57. MTU December 6th, 2013 at 9:30 pm

    69-

    A lot of it will be over by the end of the WM.

    maybe sooner.

    ;)

  58. Yes You McCann December 6th, 2013 at 9:30 pm

    I guess it’s the new world order at The LoHud

    It’s just a blog. If people can’t converse like civil adults, then they shouldn’t be on the blog.

  59. Pat M. December 6th, 2013 at 9:31 pm

    Hi Comet !!!! Speaking of departed great posters, I spoke with SJ today and he’s doing well . Miss his input and perspectives but he too would be getting censored here as well … GB wouldn’t last a week as many here skate on some thin emotional ice .

  60. jmv December 6th, 2013 at 9:33 pm

    Beltran plus Infante

    One more pitcher.

    One LOOGY and one late innig guy.

    Still a lot of fun ahead

  61. Pat M. December 6th, 2013 at 9:33 pm

    And who are you McCann some new exchange student here ?????

  62. jmills December 6th, 2013 at 9:33 pm

    Comet, how about them Leafs? :D

  63. pete2 December 6th, 2013 at 9:35 pm

    Napoli had a 367 BABIP last year and was in danger of being benched as late as Aug 21 when he had only 15 HR’s. Yankees pitching salvaged his season the last 6 weeks of the season.

  64. MTU December 6th, 2013 at 9:36 pm

    Yes jmv.

    There is.

    I am looking forward to the rest of it.

    I think the Yankees know what they have to do now.

    :)

  65. jmills December 6th, 2013 at 9:37 pm

    I don’t know what went wrong, but I do miss Randy and his Garth Iorg stories :(

  66. Yes You McCann December 6th, 2013 at 9:38 pm

    Just a poster on a blog.

  67. MTU December 6th, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    Mills-

    He has some sort of Twitter, or tweet, or whatever thing.

    You can reach him there.

    I don’t do that stuff.

  68. jmv December 6th, 2013 at 9:40 pm

    What if Pineda comes back strong?

    What if vato remains a stud?

    What is Hiro remains Hiro?

    What if CC rebounds?

    A lot of “ifs”, but it could happen…

  69. mnmboys December 6th, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    There has to be a fear of PEDs when handing out these huge contracts to star players. Braun signed a huge deal and look what happened. Obviously Alex….. Possibly Pujols who has gone in the tank, Hamilton, Tex, pick any other name. Cano was close to Melky and Arod, both caught users. I am not saying Cano was, but there maybe enough suspicion that the Yanks opted not to over extend.

  70. Bronx Jeers December 6th, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    What happened to Randy? And what happened to Nick?

  71. jmills December 6th, 2013 at 9:43 pm

    MTU, I don’t twitter either. ( Don’t know how )

  72. MTU December 6th, 2013 at 9:43 pm

    What if we get Tanaka.

    What if we get Bailey instead.

    What if we get Anderson if we don’t get Bailey.

    What if we find somebody else.

    See. that was easy.

    Pitchers made simple.

    ;)

  73. Jerkface December 6th, 2013 at 9:45 pm

    @FeinsandNYDN 3s

    BREAKING: Source says Yankees and Carlos Beltran have agreed to a three-year deal. More details to come.

  74. chicken_stanley December 6th, 2013 at 9:45 pm

    Mike- if I had my druthers:

    1. Kemp. Depends totally on LA”s motivation… if its purely a salary dump, we have a chance. Otherwise we don’t have the pieces to make it happen

    2. Beltran. I like Choo as a player better but I think Carlos” years and dollars makes more sense

    3. Choo. See above

    4. Hart. Love the offensive upside. Defense – pretty poor

    5. I have a mancrush on Davidson… would love to see a deal happen

  75. Against All Odds December 6th, 2013 at 9:45 pm

    Bronx Jeers December 6th, 2013 at 9:41 pm
    What happened to Randy? And what happened to Nick?

    ——————————-

    Randy was banned and Nick left over privacy issues.

  76. jacksquat December 6th, 2013 at 9:45 pm

    Cano has only 4 hr in 152 ab at safeco, that’s a 16 hr year…

  77. mnmboys December 6th, 2013 at 9:46 pm

    What did we pay Beltran for 3 years? $75 mil? Lol

  78. Captain Clutch December 6th, 2013 at 9:46 pm

    @FeinsandNYDN

    BREAKING: Source says Yankees and Carlos Beltran have agreed to a three-year deal. More details to come.

  79. comet December 6th, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    Yup Pat miss them all, SJ included.

    This team needs a good LH reliever and more right handed power.

    Mills I’m afraid our Leafs are fading fast into a past that had no future.

  80. jmv December 6th, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    MTU,

    I tend to think Tanaka will end with some insane contract too, if he’s posted anyway… The new posting rules really hurt

  81. jacksquat December 6th, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    I did not want to go 3 for beltran

  82. MTU December 6th, 2013 at 9:48 pm

    That’s the next shoe.

    :)

  83. Captain Clutch December 6th, 2013 at 9:48 pm

    Good move. I would assume it’s around $50m.

  84. oak2455 December 6th, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    Ken Rosenthal ?@Ken_Rosenthal 54s
    Source: Beltran going to #Yankees. Three-year deal, per @FeinsandNYDN.

  85. MTU December 6th, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    GGBG, Ellsbury, Beltran

    Not bad.

    Can still be better though.

    ;)

  86. Bronx Jeers December 6th, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    Randy was banned and Nick left over privacy issues.

    —————–

    That sucks. Both were good for laughs. Especially when they were going after each other.

    I’ll prey for Beltrans knees

  87. oak2455 December 6th, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    sorry sponge Bob slowed me down

  88. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West December 6th, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    BELTRAN A yankee!!! 3 yr deal

  89. jmv December 6th, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    Welcome home, Carlos.

    You better make good use of that third year…

  90. Captain Clutch December 6th, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    I would much rather have Beltran for 3 years instead of Choo for 7. It would be crazy to hand out 2 7 year deals to outfielders in the same off season. He can DH half of the time and the last year.

  91. MTU December 6th, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    OK move.

    Another overpay in yrs.

    Not my money.

    :)

  92. Patrick December 6th, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    Wow 3 years is rough BUT this makes a ton of sense. Yankees need another bat and they are too lefty heavy. Beltran should be pretty good for 2/3 years so it’s not completely terrible. I’m happy

  93. jmills December 6th, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    Comet, how I love a so and sorry kind of outlook :) Go Leafs, Go! BTW, Andy Kim, Alex lifeson et all, will be doing their xmas charity best.

  94. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West December 6th, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    Mark Feinsand ?@FeinsandNYDN 5m
    BREAKING: Source says Yankees and Carlos Beltran have agreed to a three-year deal. More details to come.

  95. oak2455 December 6th, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    Funny jmv!!

  96. Captain Clutch December 6th, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    @TBrownYahoo

    Beltran deal is $45 m over 3 yrs

  97. MTU December 6th, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    So the Yankees blinked on the 3rd year.

    ;)

  98. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West December 6th, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    45$ million….wow

  99. mnmboys December 6th, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    I really wanted Beltran after Bernie left. I think he would have had an amazing Yankee career. He even offered us a discount back then.

  100. jmv December 6th, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    CC, agreed.

    No more long term contacts piled up

  101. MTU December 6th, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    Infante next ?

  102. Yes You McCann December 6th, 2013 at 9:53 pm

    I will try to be positive. Maybe the Yankees have other ideas up their sleeve to replace Cano, and not with average players like Infante.

  103. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West December 6th, 2013 at 9:53 pm

    Discount i guess from the royals 48 million offer…lol

  104. Patrick December 6th, 2013 at 9:53 pm

    So the Yankees blinked on the 3rd year.

    Kind of had to given the market and that Cano left.

    Despite the need for a 3B or 2B (Johnson can play whichever isn’t filled) I am hoping that the next move is another pitcher

  105. jmills December 6th, 2013 at 9:54 pm

    Ok, you guys better watch out, I’m signing, Frank frigin’ Tanana!

  106. MTU December 6th, 2013 at 9:54 pm

    The only other option would be Phillips.

    He requires a trade.

  107. Against All Odds December 6th, 2013 at 9:54 pm

    Beltran finally joins the team he always wanted

  108. chicken_stanley December 6th, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    Mike – looks like my #2 druther came true… only a matter of time before GGBG is moved for another piece

  109. jacksquat December 6th, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    Well they have 4 of now so that does it for those unless they are going to trade Gardner

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