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Farrell on Cano: “I’m glad he’s out of the East”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 09, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Considering all last week’s activity, this was a fairly odd day at the Winter Meetings. It wasn’t only the Yankees who were quiet, it seemed every team was laying low a little bit. Even the rumor mill seemed a little less active than most Winter Meeting openers. Maybe the league needed a bit of a breather after last week’s flurry of activity.

Red Sox manager John Farrell did speak with reporters today and address two of the Yankees bigger moves.

On Jacoby Ellsbury: “He’s a darn good player. When he was playing at his full capacity… I think everyone has to take into account that he played with a broken foot, he played with a beat-up left thumb, and I think he proved to a lot of people, including himself, that he’s very capable. And he’s certainly a very dynamic player, disruptive on the base paths. How we replace him is more about what our team’s capability of scoring runs are rather than one individual player coming in to compare directly to Jacoby. I know that’s the natural comparison. We’re going to miss Jacoby. He’s a very good player.”

On Robinson Cano: “(I think about the fact) That we’ll only face him seven or ten times instead of 19. You know what, free agency does some different things, and he’s a great player. You remember as a pitching coach, he’s a guy that keeps you up at night trying to find ways to attack him. But I’m glad he’s out of the East.”

As you might expect, Rays manager Joe Maddon seemed to be looking for any sort of deeper impact of the Yankees losing Cano and gaining Ellsbury.

“Ellsbury, I think, is going to show more power, obviously, because he can (pull) the ball,” Maddon said. “He can get into the right-center spot, so his home runs will probably come back up again. … A lot of the behind the scenes stuff to me is the most interesting part of that. You know what they’re like as players and what you pretty much expect to perform on the field. But I don’t know what the dynamic is inside the building, and that is really important too.”

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260 Responses to “Farrell on Cano: “I’m glad he’s out of the East””

  1. blake December 9th, 2013 at 8:22 pm

    @TBrownYahoo: Angels primarily focused on Cahill and Skaggs in Trumbo talks. Pitching first for Angels, of course.

  2. luis December 9th, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    MTU,

    The team has improved offensively…But I explained in the other thread, the team is an 84-85 win as of right now… It needs another 7 wins, either through the pen and rotation or some more offensive output.

  3. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    I got a news flash for Maddon.

    Ellsbury is unlikely to hit as many homers as Cano.

    His totals may go up but Cano was good for 25-30 dingers.

    Let’s see if JE can match that.

    It would surprise me. Even at NYS.

  4. blake December 9th, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    Wouldn’t shock me if Ellsbury and Cano hit similar numbers of homers next year when you consider Jacoby should get a bump and Cano should lose a few.

    Could see Jacoby hitting 15 or 16 and Cano hitting 20

  5. Giuseppe Franco December 9th, 2013 at 8:27 pm

    mick December 9th, 2013 at 8:19 pm

    GF-

    You don’t think the overall offense has been improved from last year ?
    =============================================
    You have a full season of Soriano.
    McCann, Ellsbury and Beltran bring a new dynamic.
    Don’t understand the caution re: all this.

    —-

    Because they have 4 question marks in the starting lineup right now. That’s not exactly going out on a limb.

    They have no 2B or 3B (with the A-Rod stuff still up in the air) as of today and we don’t know how Teixiera or Jeter will bounce back from injuries.

  6. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 8:27 pm

    Luis-

    Then I guess I don’t understand.

    If they are better what have they done wrong ?

    And by the way, they’re not done yet.

    They’ll finish the job.

    ;)

  7. CountryClub December 9th, 2013 at 8:27 pm

    SS D is always very important and it’s unlikely that Derek will be able hit hit or play defense like he used to…..

    ————-

    If Jeter hits like he did in 2012 I couldn’t care less about his range. D is important but overrated. I realize it’s unlikely he repeats his 12 performance. But then again, nobody thought he could hit like he did that year either.

  8. Howler December 9th, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    I’m sure they can find a better alternative for 4th outfielder than Ichiro…would rather see Almonte get some time.

  9. blake December 9th, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    I think Jeter will hit….just don’t know how mobile he’s going to be

  10. luis December 9th, 2013 at 8:29 pm

    MTU,

    I won’t get there…But they haven’t been very good at spending either… One thing we agree on though..They need to finish the job

  11. mick December 9th, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    Mick that isn’t going to cut it offensively.

    And for me, those options are not acceptable.

    The job has to be completed properly.

    Those guys aren’t it.
    ===================
    MTU-
    You get what you can get. If you can’t then you can’t.
    Infante will not be lowballed, it appears.
    Phillips would cost too much.
    If Gardy goes, you can’t go w/ Beltran and Soriano every day.
    Unless, of course, they get Choo…

  12. Howler December 9th, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    I’m with you MTU…It’s highly unlikely they’re just going to sit on their hands, even if nothing happens during the winter meetings.

  13. Giuseppe Franco December 9th, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    mick December 9th, 2013 at 8:24 pm

    Their pitching wasn’t great in 2009. They had a good pen but they only had three starters (Sabathia, Pettitte, and Burnett) and one of them was always hit or miss.
    =====================
    It obviously was good enough.
    Don’t forget Joba and Hughes.
    Aceves was 10-1.
    Mo under 1 WHIP.
    The pen counts as part of the staff.

    —–

    Yes, it was good enough, but not great. That’s exactly my point. They won primarily because of their offense.

    You tend to argue with me for the sake of arguing.

  14. mick December 9th, 2013 at 8:31 pm

    Their pitching wasn’t great in 2009. They had a good pen but they only had three starters (Sabathia, Pettitte, and Burnett) and one of them was always hit or miss.
    =====================
    It obviously was good enough.
    Don’t forget Joba and Hughes.
    Aceves was 10-1.
    Mo under 1 WHIP.
    The pen counts as part of the staff.

  15. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 8:32 pm

    GF-

    They do have a 2b- Kelly Johnson.

    And yes he’s no Cano but the guy is capable of hitting 20 dingers and hitting around .275

    A-Rod was not a factor at 3b last year so who is the comparison there ?

    Nix ? Nunez ? they should be easy to improve upon

    And what are they supposed to do about Jeter and Texeira ?

    They need to bounce back. Especially Tex.

    They were never gonna go anywhere so what is the comparison ?

    I guess I don’t understand ?

  16. joeman December 9th, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    joeman December 9th, 2013 at 8:31 pm
    Monday night football..C U L

  17. Yankee Trader December 9th, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    More info on pitching over the last few decades. more than you probably wish to know.

    Cardinals pitching coach Dave Duncan said, “Twenty years ago, did you ever hear a pitcher talking about his role? No. Now, everyone has to know his role, his specific role.”

    Hershiser laughed, saying, “When I broke in, teams broke camp with eight or nine pitchers, nine to 10 at the most. Rookies prayed they’d keep 10 so they could make the team. Carrying 11 was unbelievable. It was like, ‘What are you doing? Your bench is so short.’ Now we’ve got 12 and 13 pitchers on the team! And we have a bunch of relievers who don’t like to come into a game with runners on base. So we eliminate even more innings by a starting pitcher by allowing a reliever to start the inning with no one on base.”

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=4359938

  18. mick December 9th, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    You tend to argue with me for the sake of arguing.
    ============================
    I argue with you b/c I disagree with you.
    Isn’t that what is behind most of your posts?
    When you disagree you speak up, same as I.

  19. luis December 9th, 2013 at 8:34 pm

    Oops! major oversight by my part…We lost Mo (2,5 WAR)… So that puts us back to 82-83 wins…Sorry my bad

  20. Giuseppe Franco December 9th, 2013 at 8:34 pm

    Howler December 9th, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    I’m sure they can find a better alternative for 4th outfielder than Ichiro…would rather see Almonte get some time.

    —-

    I have no problem giving Almonte plenty of playing time. But neither this front office nor Girardi have had the greatest track record putting that much faith in a kid (unless they have no other choice).

  21. luis December 9th, 2013 at 8:37 pm

    MTU,

    The Yankees Pythagorean record was 79 with Texeira and Granderson in it… Without them was like 71-73

  22. Giuseppe Franco December 9th, 2013 at 8:37 pm

    MTU December 9th, 2013 at 8:32 pm

    GF-

    They do have a 2b- Kelly Johnson.

    And yes he’s no Cano but the guy is capable of hitting 20 dingers and hitting around .275

    A-Rod was not a factor at 3b last year so who is the comparison there ?

    Nix ? Nunez ? they should be easy to improve upon

    And what are they supposed to do about Jeter and Texeira ?

    They need to bounce back. Especially Tex.

    They were never gonna go anywhere so what is the comparison ?

    I guess I don’t understand ?

    —–

    Just saying I don’t think this is a playoff team yet with the changes they’ve made. They were really lucky to be in it as long as they were last season.

  23. CountryClub December 9th, 2013 at 8:38 pm

    @DanMartin_Post: Jeter said he’s talked to Cano since the Seattle signing and he seemed happy: “Wouldn’t you be happy? That’s a lot of money.” #yanks

  24. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 8:40 pm

    GF-

    They aren’t finished.

    ;)

  25. Howler December 9th, 2013 at 8:40 pm

    did Duncan ever bring this up with LaRussa when he was changing the ways pitchers were being used out of the pen, or is it easier to say when he’s not part of the team anymore.

  26. Bo knows December 9th, 2013 at 8:43 pm

    The Yankees Pythagorean record was 79 with Texeira and Granderson in it… Without them was like 71-73.
    ——————
    I’m going to save this for the next ‘Binder Joe’ comment.

  27. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 8:43 pm

    Mick-

    “You get what you can get. If you can’t then you can’t.”

    There is no reason they cannot do the things I spoke about.

    189 is history and those are needs not wants.

    They should be filled properly. Not with band aids again. And my bet is that they won’t be.

    Or at least I strongly hope not.

    They didn’t come this far not to finish the job right.

    ;)

  28. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 8:47 pm

    Luis-

    I don’t give a crap about projections.

    I’m looking at the Team I see and I think it’s a good one and going to get even better.

    You want to look at Pythagorean whatever’s be my guest.

    Same with WAR. It is only an approximation. It isn’t the frickin’ gospel according to St. Matthew.

    If you can’t see the huge improvement in this Team then I don’t know what to tell you.

    And it isn’t even complete yet.

    :(

  29. mick December 9th, 2013 at 8:47 pm

    There is no reason they cannot do the things I spoke about.
    =====================
    MTU

    If you are talking about Infante or Phillips, I addressed that.
    I hear no talk of Choo, he looks to be off the table.

    Who else are you getting?

  30. luis December 9th, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    Bo knows December 9th, 2013 at 8:43 pm
    The Yankees Pythagorean record was 79 with Texeira and Granderson in it… Without them was like 71-73.
    ——————
    I’m going to save this for the next ‘Binder Joe’ comment.

    ======================

    Which means?

  31. Giuseppe Franco December 9th, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    MTU,

    I can’t speak for anyone else but my confidence in this GM and front office to fix what’s broken has never been lower.

    Too many games of checkers and not enough games of chess.

  32. mick December 9th, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    The easy part was getting the FA’s.
    Trades will be a lot harder.
    We shall see…

  33. chicken_stanley December 9th, 2013 at 8:53 pm

    Hi Luis – I understand your postition… the yankees have work to do yet – and agree whole heartedly.

    What I don’t understand is cummulative WAR and pathagorean wins… :) Don’t get me wrong… I know what message they try to convey, but I’m an old stick in the mud… I trust those metrics as much as I trust Cash when he has a presser. :)

  34. Captain Clutch December 9th, 2013 at 8:53 pm

    Hopefully it’s good news that Cashman hasn’t been seen by the beat writers. He is getting down to business.

  35. luis December 9th, 2013 at 8:54 pm

    MTU,

    No Gospel… But a guideline to give an idea where we are at… The team did win 85 games… So clearly is not an exact science…

  36. Howler December 9th, 2013 at 8:55 pm

    Too much can happen during a course of a year to come up with projections now as to what a team is going to do or look like when it comes down the stretch run…Now I do wonder what those 69 Mets Pythagorean record would’ve been or even the 2012 Giants…seems this year is the first time I’ve ever heard Pythagorean record bandied about as much as it is. Seems just like another stat people get their panties tight over.

  37. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    Mick-

    I’m looking for a mid-rotation SP. Like a Bailey or a Tanaka.

    I’m expecting a LOOGY. A Logan or an O’Flaherty type.

    And someone better than a Reynolds for 3b.

    Or move Johnson to 3b and get a 2b.

    They Yankees can afford Infante if they want.

  38. chicken_stanley December 9th, 2013 at 8:58 pm

    Oops – MTU. I think I essentially repeated your sentiments when I posted. See what happens when you don’t do a good job skimming the posts of others :D

  39. Shame Spencer December 9th, 2013 at 8:59 pm

    ?@ChrisCotillo

    Choo could happen soon with #Rangers and #DBacks seeming to be most involved

    And bad news guys:

    @LoHudYankees

    Well… RT @dylanohernandez: The owner of the Rakuten Eagles told @pgammo he doesn’t intend to post Masahiro Tanaka: http://bit.ly/1bybO2R

  40. luis December 9th, 2013 at 8:59 pm

    chicken_stanley December 9th, 2013 at 8:53 pm
    Hi Luis – I understand your postition… the yankees have work to do yet – and agree whole heartedly.

    What I don’t understand is cummulative WAR and pathagorean wins… :) Don’t get me wrong… I know what message they try to convey, but I’m an old stick in the mud… I trust those metrics as much as I trust Cash when he has a presser. :)

    =============================

    I am just starting to understand them, I am no expert… But one thing that turned me to them was last season… At the beginning of the season we were clearly outpacing it… But eventually the team returned to the mean and their final record while better than the projection was within it’s expected parameters…I find them very interesting.

    But all in all, we are in agreement, we still have work to do.

  41. Jerkface December 9th, 2013 at 9:00 pm

    That quote is from last wednesday though. They have to meet with Tanaka this week and see where he is at.

  42. mick December 9th, 2013 at 9:02 pm

    They Yankees can afford Infante if they want.
    ========================
    MTU

    They could also have afforded Cano.
    Hal will not be held up, he can be a bit of a tyrant.
    If Infante is asking 4/60, and not budging, he will draw the line.

  43. luis December 9th, 2013 at 9:04 pm

    Seems just like another stat people get their panties tight over.

    =====================

    Please pass me a pair of scissors…This are really tight! ;)

  44. tomingeorgia December 9th, 2013 at 9:05 pm

    They are much better than they were last year, and the best is yet to come!

  45. chicken_stanley December 9th, 2013 at 9:06 pm

    Shame – how does this Chris Cotillo keep getting breaking news??? when I was a senior in high school, I spent the majority of my time figuring out what excuse I was gonna use for skipping school the next day (grandmother died for the 4th time, abducted by aliens, etc.)!!!

  46. Shame Spencer December 9th, 2013 at 9:07 pm

    JF – I’m now seeing people reiterating they still need to meet with Tanaka.. it seemed like new news but I was fooled. :(

  47. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 9:07 pm

    Mick-

    Then they find someone else.

    Phillips and Infante can’t be the only options.

    That is why they have a computer, a huge statistical and scouting dep’t., and most of all a GM with money in his pocket, and people he can trade as well.

    The job has to be done right.

    Not half-as*sed.

    Reynolds and people like that are exactly that.

    Hal wants a winner. He won’t scrimp at the end.

  48. luis December 9th, 2013 at 9:08 pm

    Too many games of checkers and not enough games of chess.

    ==========================

    This…

  49. Bo knows December 9th, 2013 at 9:08 pm

    Which means?
    —————————
    It means that I wasn’t aware of how much the team overperformed their projections. I thought that Girardi did a hell of a job last year, didn’t realize it was that good. I’d read some sneering post on “Binder Joe” and wonder “Where did that come from?” I’m sure there’ll be more thrashing of Girardi this year and that’s what I’ll save it for.

  50. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 9:09 pm

    Shame-

    Next time you cry wolf you’re grounded.

    :)

  51. Shame Spencer December 9th, 2013 at 9:09 pm

    chicken – No clue, I think he hides in garbage cans like Oscar the Grouch.

  52. luis December 9th, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    Bo,

    Yes… Girardi did one hell of job considering the resources he had

  53. Shame Spencer December 9th, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    MTU – blake’s was wayyyy worse, one time he posted that the Mariners got a 2B that was not named Cano…. and it was obviously blake’s fault and not Rosenthal’s for posting the wrong team name…

  54. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 9:11 pm

    Luis-

    When you look at these thing be sure not to lose your common sense in the process.

    A Team is greater than the sum of it’s parts.

    ;)

  55. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 9:12 pm

    Shame-

    Obfuscation will only add to your punishment.

    :)

  56. mick December 9th, 2013 at 9:13 pm

    MTU

    Not as an offense to you or luis but some people root with their heart.
    I believe the others root with their head.
    Like pitching and hitting , we need a balance ;)

  57. Shame Spencer December 9th, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    My dad used to say the same thing but he couldn’t pronounce obfuscation if his life depended on it!

  58. hardwired7 December 9th, 2013 at 9:15 pm

    So now we’ve heard from Ortiz and Farrell about the Cano deal.

    Guess what? We don’t give a rat’s ass what the Red Sox think about it.

  59. mick December 9th, 2013 at 9:18 pm

    I’m not thinking Hal looks at Tanaka as a must have.
    Not even as much as he wanted McCann, Ellsbury or Beltran.

    He might have finished his shopping at Bloomingdales, or wherever the highbrows shop, and be back to looking for bargains like a 1 year deal for Colon.

    With an anticipated bidding war imminent, let’s hope Tanaka wants us.

  60. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    Mick-

    No offense taken but I do think things through. Quite well I’d say.

    And wanting a properly constructed team has nothing to do with being emotional for me.

    It has to do with winning.

    I like winning.

    I don’t need a star at every position but I want a good one. Reynolds is not a good one.

    He’s not adequate in my view.

    And it would be the height of absurdity for Hal not to see this mission thru.

    He already in for a dollar.

    Finish it.

    ;)

  61. Yankee Trader December 9th, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    “– Rival executives believe the most Brett Gardner can bring back via trade is a #4 starter. So to put it in perspective, if the Yankees were to hypothetically trade Gardner to the Minnesota Twins…he’d bring back Phil Hughes.”

  62. charlestonchew December 9th, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    I actually think Cano will be a better hitter in Seattle, out of the spotlight where he can hit without any pressure all the time. He may finally hit 30HR.

  63. charlestonchew December 9th, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    *40 HR, typo

  64. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 9:22 pm

    I’m already off of Tanaka he’s my 2nd choice.

    I’d prefer Bailey.

    I gave my reasons earlier in the day.

  65. luis December 9th, 2013 at 9:24 pm

    None Taken Mick….Balance is very good way to put it

  66. chicken_stanley December 9th, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    I’ve tried to post the same message several times – Apparently I’m blocked for some reason… can any of you see this?

  67. Shame Spencer December 9th, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    Yankee Trader December 9th, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    “– Rival executives believe the most Brett Gardner can bring back via trade is a #4 starter. So to put it in perspective, if the Yankees were to hypothetically trade Gardner to the Minnesota Twins…he’d bring back Phil Hughes.”

    ——————-

    That’s amazing lol.

  68. mick December 9th, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    MTU

    I agree with you.
    Sometimes I get hot when Luis over analyzes but can see his points.
    He is head, you and I are heart but balanced.
    No problem and no knock on Luis.

  69. luis December 9th, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    Shame Spencer December 9th, 2013 at 9:26 pm
    Yankee Trader December 9th, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    “– Rival executives believe the most Brett Gardner can bring back via trade is a #4 starter. So to put it in perspective, if the Yankees were to hypothetically trade Gardner to the Minnesota Twins…he’d bring back Phil Hughes.”

    ——————-

    That’s amazing lol.

    ====================

    I rather keep Gardner

  70. Shame Spencer December 9th, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    chicken_stanley December 9th, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    I’ve tried to post the same message several times – Apparently I’m blocked for some reason… can any of you see this?

    —————

    Some strange words are blocked like ‘c@ncer’ but if you try to post a comment with more than one link it also gets caught in the censor.

  71. Jerkface December 9th, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    I’ve tried to post the same message several times – Apparently I’m blocked for some reason… can any of you see this?

    If you have more than 1 link in the message it won’t post.

  72. I am Brett Godner December 9th, 2013 at 9:29 pm

    “Now I do wonder what those 69 Mets Pythagorean record would’ve been or even the 2012 Giants…”

    If only there was a way to find out like a magic box connected to a series of tubes….

    It was 92-70 for the ’69 Mets and 88-74 for the 2012 giants.

  73. chicken_stanley December 9th, 2013 at 9:33 pm

    Shame/JF – no double links, no iffy words… it was a reply to shame about Oscar the Grouch and a certain Sesame Street character that looked like a wooly mammoth… from what I can tell, his name is taboo. :)

  74. tbone1570 December 9th, 2013 at 9:34 pm

    Shame Spencer December 9th, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    My dad used to say the same thing but he couldn’t pronounce obfuscation if his life depended on it!

    *****************************
    Shame,

    Please clue us in as to what he said when he tried to say obfuscation! :)

  75. blake December 9th, 2013 at 9:34 pm

    MTU – blake’s was wayyyy worse, one time he posted that the Mariners got a 2B that was not named Cano…. and it was obviously blake’s fault and not Rosenthal’s for posting the wrong team name…”

    Yea Rosenthal screwed me over

  76. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 9:34 pm

    Mick-

    Good to know.

    That is how I think of myself.

    A balanced perspective.

    It’s good to have company.

    And I’m also glad about Luis because he is one fine person.

    Even if he is a wild-eyed Indian.

    :)

  77. chicken_stanley December 9th, 2013 at 9:35 pm

    Another test to see if this goes thru – Big Bird

  78. blake December 9th, 2013 at 9:36 pm

    Hughes wasn’t a #4 starter last year….that term means different things to different teams. I think Gardner could bring a true mid rotation guy in the right situation…..whether or not that’ll materialize I don’t know

  79. luis December 9th, 2013 at 9:36 pm

    Even if he is a wild-eyed Indian.

    :)

    ====================

    Now you are getting personal! ;)

  80. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 9:36 pm

    “Yea Rosenthal screwed me over”

    Excuse making gets you nowhere.

  81. mick December 9th, 2013 at 9:36 pm

    Luis isn’t an Indian.
    He’s a Chief, tho…

  82. Bret The Hitman December 9th, 2013 at 9:37 pm

    Yankee Trader December 9th, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    “– Rival executives believe the most Brett Gardner can bring back via trade is a #4 starter. So to put it in perspective, if the Yankees were to hypothetically trade Gardner to the Minnesota Twins…he’d bring back Phil Hughes.”

    ___________

    Dose of reality. MLB executives are quite obviously sober.

  83. austinmac December 9th, 2013 at 9:37 pm

    MLB always speaks of wanting to grow the game internationally. Yet, if the posting system keeps Tanaka in Japan they are losing far more in income and interest than the additional posting fee.

  84. I am Brett Godner December 9th, 2013 at 9:38 pm

    Seems like if Tanaka is posted there will be at least a dozen teams in on it. Feels like every team that wants pitching is in on him potentially and every team wants more pitching.

    On an unrelated note I am trying to decide whether I care that the Mets are listening to offers for Daniel Murphy.

  85. mick December 9th, 2013 at 9:38 pm

    I do think Luis should take you up on your offer MTU and move with his family into your basement for the time being…

  86. chicken_stanley December 9th, 2013 at 9:38 pm

    OK. Big Bird is fine. If any of you know the character I’m talking about – wolly mammoth, only visible to Big Bird… apparently his name is verboten! LMAO!

  87. luis December 9th, 2013 at 9:38 pm

    chicken_stanley December 9th, 2013 at 9:35 pm
    Another test to see if this goes thru – Big Bird

    =======================

    You should be banned for giving us the bird ;)

  88. pete2 December 9th, 2013 at 9:40 pm

    I don’t think Ellsbury gets a bump in HR due to the stadium. When he hits to ball in the air to RF it goes a long way. Most of his FB outs are to LF and CF. A few of his Fenway HR in 2011 would be outs in YS3. With the shoulder injury he had none in 2012 and 2013.

    Can’t tell from the charts how many wall ball doubles he had since they only track where the fielder picks up the ball. Theoretically some of his LD singles and doubles to LF go for doubles and triples in YS3. The opposite is true to RF, but almost 2/3 of his doubles and triples go to LF-CF.

    I think any boost in HR totals comes from increased strength in that shoulder that was damaged in 2012. That subluxation would have partially torn the labrum and that can take time to fully heal, if it ever does. If the power comes back Ellsbury is a #3 hitter and his contract will seem like a steal.

  89. mick December 9th, 2013 at 9:40 pm

    MLB always speaks of wanting to grow the game internationally. Yet, if the posting system keeps Tanaka in Japan they are losing far more in income and interest than the additional posting fee.
    ===================
    Mac- Do you really think they will turn down the 20m bid?
    It’s that or nothing, MLB has the leverage.

  90. I am Brett Godner December 9th, 2013 at 9:40 pm

    Bert an Ernie

    The count

    Kermit the Frog

    Mr. Hooper

  91. blake December 9th, 2013 at 9:40 pm

    @Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: #Indians listening on Masterson with idea of exploring longer-term options. Masterson entering final season before free agency.

  92. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    Yanomamo I believe.

    I’m an Apache.

    You use the blow gun. Me the bow.

    You inhabit the Jungle.

    Me the High plains.

    You ride the river.

    I travel by horse.

    We are brothers in the end though.

    Warriors. Muy fuerte y duro.

    :)

  93. mick December 9th, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    chicken do you mean snuffy?

  94. Howler December 9th, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    Isn’t The Count the one figuring out 189

  95. I am Brett Godner December 9th, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    It’s not $20m or nothing, it’s $20m vs. his marketing value for 2 years. I am surprised they are even considering it. I would guess there will be a lot of very polite arm twisting at that meeting.

  96. I am Brett Godner December 9th, 2013 at 9:43 pm

    ” Isn’t The Count the one figuring out 189″

    I feel like if The Count was in charge we would know what the number really is at this point. The Count was pretty tight when it came to counting.

  97. austinmac December 9th, 2013 at 9:43 pm

    Snuffelupagus?

  98. chicken_stanley December 9th, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    Mick – Snuffy is correct. I’m convenced his entire name is causing my posts to be blocked (then again I may have alzheimers)

  99. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    Mick-

    I don’t have a basement but he knows I meant what I said.

    I will always try to shepherd someone in tyranny to freedom.

    And give them shelter from that particular storm.

    Besides he’ll keep me in Tequila while he’s here.

    :)

  100. I am Brett Godner December 9th, 2013 at 9:45 pm

    I’m just glad Mr. Hooper isn’t blocked. That would be just tragic.

  101. chicken_stanley December 9th, 2013 at 9:45 pm

    Luis – not only the bird – the BIG bird :D

  102. mick December 9th, 2013 at 9:45 pm

    chicken you prolly spelled it so wrong that the filter thinks it’s some new erotic word

  103. Yankee Trader December 9th, 2013 at 9:46 pm

    MTU

    I wouldn’t mind it if the Yankees could add a young left handed starter to the rotation.

    Tonight’s breaking news:

    Logan Morrison traded to _________ for _________?
    Choo signed to 6/120M contract by __________?
    Nelson Cruz close to signing with _________?
    Mark Trumbo traded to _______ for ________?
    David Price talks hot and heavy between Rays and ________?
    Ichiro and 5M sent to the _________ for PTBNL?
    Dominic Brown surprisingly traded to ________ for ________?

    Fill in the blanks.

  104. Shame Spencer December 9th, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    @DanBarbarisi @kmillar15 is Not Impressed as random drunk guy begs him to sing Every Rose Has its Thorn. Winter Meetings! pic.twitter.com/qCNQi74Brq

  105. mick December 9th, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    MTU

    I think Luis makes a decent living in Venezuela and is worried how he would support his family if he fled.

  106. chicken_stanley December 9th, 2013 at 9:48 pm

    Austinmac – correct but spelling incorrect – google snuffal – should auto fill from there. Then try to post the name

    I am Brett Godner – I haven’t checked Mr Hooper – if he’s blocked, its a tradgedy!

  107. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 9:48 pm

    Glenn-

    Here’s how you tell if you have Alzheimer’s.

    Get in front of a mirror and a take long look at yourself.

    Then turn away and look back.

    If you don’t remember the person you now see you have it.

    Works every time. Sure fire method.

    Don’t bother to thank me.

    ;)

  108. I am Brett Godner December 9th, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    I secretly wish the Yanks had a need for Trumbo. I secretly enjoy watching him crush a baseball like it owes him money.

  109. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    Mick-

    Perhaps.

    But living beats making money by a lot. Alive and poor is better than wealthy but dead.

    Besides. He is a capable and resourceful fellow w a strong skillset.

    With my excellent guidance he’d either get rich or go broke trying.

    :)

  110. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 9:53 pm

    And he likes burritos and Cerveza.

    So there’s that.

    ;)

  111. chicken_stanley December 9th, 2013 at 9:54 pm

    MTU December 9th, 2013 at 9:48 pm
    Glenn-

    Here’s how you tell if you have Alzheimer’s.

    Get in front of a mirror and a take long look at yourself.

    Then turn away and look back.

    If you don’t remember the person you now see you have it.

    Works every time. Sure fire method.

    Don’t bother to thank me.

    ——————-

    I’m sorry. Have we met?

  112. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 9:54 pm

    OK Steve.

    Time for the evening report.

    ;)

  113. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 9:54 pm

    A summary and recap of today’s news as it were.

  114. austinmac December 9th, 2013 at 9:54 pm

    Chicken,

    I get it. Programs don’t always work well.

  115. mick December 9th, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    With my excellent guidance he’d either get rich or go broke trying.
    ==================
    I am sure you have the resources to employ him with odd jobs or perhaps a butler job on your premises.

  116. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    Glenn-

    You have it.

    :(

  117. I am Brett Godner December 9th, 2013 at 9:57 pm

    Updated news from Day 1 of the WM:

    That is all.

  118. mick December 9th, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    Anybody here want to go back in time and choose up sides for some pickup hardball after school?

    Ah…to be 12 again.

  119. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    Mick-

    Yes.

    He can clean my beer goggles before I put them on.

    He can make sure there are plenty of chips and salsa available.

    Etc.

    No problem.

    We could certainly work it out.

    :)

  120. austinmac December 9th, 2013 at 9:59 pm

    The report is no report. I have read the Yankees intend to pursue trades before free agents.

    If unclear, Ichiro was one of the worst offensive outfielders in baseball and has no trade value.

    We still have little to trade other than Gardner. We will see what he can bring and if it makes sense.

  121. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 10:00 pm

    Godner-

    :)

  122. Yankee Trader December 9th, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    Cashman will not meet with media until tomorrow-busy working on finding second baseman and pitching.

    Cashman has said that he is searching for pitching and infield help, noting on Sunday that there is “no priority on it — just what makes us better.” The Yankees have talked with free-agent second baseman Omar Infante, but as of right now, Robinson Cano’s departure to the Mariners has boosted the market for Infante beyond the Yanks’ liking.

  123. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    I will wait for Steve.

    You guys are no help.

  124. austinmac December 9th, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    Yep, I would love to go play a pick up game. Put me in any position except catcher.

  125. bigdan22 December 9th, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    Yankee Trader December 9th, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    “– Rival executives believe the most Brett Gardner can bring back via trade is a #4 starter. So to put it in perspective, if the Yankees were to hypothetically trade Gardner to the Minnesota Twins…he’d bring back Phil Hughes.”

    ________

    Another way to look at that is, if the Yanks traded Gardner to themselves, they’d get back CC.

    Wait, I’m not sure CC was a #4 last year.

  126. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 10:03 pm

    Excellent report YT.

    Anything about Gardner for Bailey ?

  127. bigdan22 December 9th, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    Think it’s going to be pretty slow around here for awhile. Hard to improve your club if you don’t spend money. And waiting for a trade is like watching paint dry.

    The next data point for the Yanks looks like the Tanaka posting. If they don’t play ball there, and I mean go really hard, we know what we’re looking at.

  128. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    Mick-

    I’d settle for going back to 50.

    A little reset would be nice.

    ;)

  129. Tabbert December 9th, 2013 at 10:06 pm

    Using baseballmusings.com handy Lineup Analysis, I submitted this lineup:

    Gardner
    Jeter
    Ellsbury
    Beltran
    Mccann
    Teixeira
    Soriano
    Nunez
    Johnson

    This came out to 4.682 runs a game, which totaled us at 758 runs. That would have been good for the 5th best offense in baseball last year. Now obviously this isn’t going to be 100 percent accurate and I went off Streamers projected stats for next year, but it does give us a nice baseline to start with. All the best projected lineups have Johnson, Gardner,Soriano, Jeter, batting 6-9th.

  130. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    If you traded GGBG for Homer.

    His net cost would be just 5 mil.

    What a bargain.

    What a screaming bargain.

    Even Mister thrifty should like that one.

    Of course you do have to backfill Brett.

    :(

  131. mick December 9th, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    Yep, I would love to go play a pick up game. Put me in any position except catcher.
    ====================
    We hit for ourself.
    Usually not enough guys fo all fields.
    We catered to the pull hitter so we would switch back and forth hitting to left or right depending on the hitter.
    No need for a catcher, the 1B would cover home.

  132. David in Cal December 9th, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    I suspect that the reason the Yanks did better than their Pythagorean projection was the combination of Mo and Robertson. When the Yanks were leading after 7 innings, they almost always won. For this reason, I think they’ll miss Mo a lot. I think Robertson might well pitch as well as Mo, but the Yanks have nobody as good as Robertson.

  133. trisha - true pinstriped blue December 9th, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    OT

    I interrupt this broadcast to announce to those of you who have been part of my tale of woe that I finally had my MRI!

    One of my brothers performed it and so I was able to poke around a little for information without asking him for the actual result, as I that I think that would have compromised him. It’s like I played low-level 60 questions. From the answers, you can figure out my questions.

    1. Definitely something going on

    2. L4 and L5 are involved (tracks perfectly with the areas of pain in my leg)

    3. Definitely could have been the result of lifting something heavy

    4. Doesn’t think the chiropractor caused it or exacerbated the situation

    5. Possible that there’s nerve impingement because of its location and my symptoms

    So now I wait for the doctor to get the report and take it from there. But at least that’s done. Thanks for the encouragement. It really was the intelligent thing to do. I’m hoping that whatever the situation, there’s some course of action that will be recommended. I am soooo tired of being an invalid with this stuff. And this is such a bad time of year to be immobile.

    :)

  134. trisha - true pinstriped blue December 9th, 2013 at 10:09 pm

    Back in a bit. Gotta run out for a prescription. :(

  135. mick December 9th, 2013 at 10:09 pm

    I’d settle for going back to 50.
    ===================
    1950 would also be fine.

  136. blake December 9th, 2013 at 10:10 pm

    Masterson would be nice

  137. Yankee Trader December 9th, 2013 at 10:10 pm

    MTU

    Talking about Gardner now. Don’t feel they will get a pitcher to fill their need for 200 innings, like Dexter Fowler, maybe could get a pitching prospect. Rosenthal doubts Reds would trade Bailey for Gardner.

    No to Gardner for a pitching prospect. Yankees already have pitching prospects.

  138. AAA December 9th, 2013 at 10:11 pm

    Mac- Do you really think they will turn down the 20m bid?
    It’s that or nothing, MLB has the leverage.

    ==============================

    $20M will always be there next year.

  139. mick December 9th, 2013 at 10:11 pm

    4. Doesn’t think the chiropractor caused it or exacerbated the situation
    ==================
    Glad to hear that.
    They could recommend surgery.
    Would be very careful with that.

  140. jacksquat December 9th, 2013 at 10:13 pm

    wanzies222 December 9th, 2013 at 7:58 pm
    Murphy is a terrible 2B, IMO. No thanks.

    Agreed.

  141. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 10:14 pm

    Trisha-

    You will likely get some shots in the affected area as first line of treatment.

    Sounds like you may have one or more bulging discs.

    Actually quite a common ailment.

    Best of luck with it.

  142. mick December 9th, 2013 at 10:14 pm

    Rehab would be an avenue to explore.
    1 or 2 times a week for a month or so might begin to correct the problem.
    It has worked for me in the past.

  143. blake December 9th, 2013 at 10:14 pm

    @JeffPassan: Sources: Rakuten president will be at winter meetings, where the Masahiro Tanaka situation could find a resolution. http://t.co/gfMOQ5HyDF

  144. I am Brett Godner December 9th, 2013 at 10:15 pm

    I obviously think highly Gardner and I still don’t see him netting them Bailey. When I look around I still feel like he has more value to the Yankees than he can bring in trade. I do wish the Yanks had the chips to get Kendrick.

  145. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 10:16 pm

    YT-

    Then another target might be guys like Anderson, Lannan, or Santiago.

    I think we should sweeten the pot for Bailey though.

    See if they bite on that.

    ;)

  146. wanzies222 December 9th, 2013 at 10:18 pm

    Might be some decisions tonight….

    Choo is the next big one to fall. Once that happens, the D’backs will have taken a direction, which is holding up the market for OF which is holding up the market for SP.

    Lots of parts and pieces in play for the NYY, including, but not limited to Gardner, Ichiro, Phelps, Nuno, Warren, Claiborne, Cervelli, Romaine, Nunez, Almonte, Heathcott, Austin, Williams and anyone else you can think of.

    Later.

  147. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 10:18 pm

    “Rakuten president will be at winter meetings, where the Masahiro Tanaka situation could find a resolution.”

    As the Yankees hand him the envelope under the table.

    :)

  148. chicken_stanley December 9th, 2013 at 10:18 pm

    Ok. Last Sesame street post of the night. Chad must be notified post haste!! Any Sesame street character that is on the no-no list should be rectified immediately (except of course, Elmo… An extremely bad character if I’ve ever seen one)

  149. Yankee Trader December 9th, 2013 at 10:19 pm

    Trisha

    Get yourself referred to a boarded pain specialist, bring the disk MRI with you and see if you need a series of epidural steroid injections or selective nerve root blocks. Did they at lest do lumbar flexion extension plain X-rays in the ER?

  150. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 10:19 pm

    Thanks for update Steve.

    Much appreciated.

    :)

  151. mick December 9th, 2013 at 10:20 pm

    It is conceivable the Yanks open the season with Johnson at 2B and Nunez at 3rd.
    They likely will wait on a 3B till the arod verdict is in.
    Any team will try to rip them off.
    The OF, DH , 4th OF is fine.
    I can see a MiL/ST for Roberts at 2nd.
    They will get a reliever and 4th starter thru FA.
    No need to panic.
    Could be a slow WM.

  152. jacksquat December 9th, 2013 at 10:22 pm

    blake December 9th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
    Wouldn’t shock me if Ellsbury and Cano hit similar numbers of homers next year when you consider Jacoby should get a bump and Cano should lose a few.

    Could see Jacoby hitting 15 or 16 and Cano hitting 20

    Yep.

    Cano has 4 hr in 152 pa in safeco.

  153. austinmac December 9th, 2013 at 10:23 pm

    Gammons has an article saying they are not posting him. Can’t vouch for it. But, as Face told us yesterday, Ratuken is a huge company. They can easily afford to take a stand.

  154. mick December 9th, 2013 at 10:24 pm

    Nuno, Warren, Claiborne, Cervelli, Romaine,
    ==========================
    August Romaine…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxuCeHUxoBY

  155. blake December 9th, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    I think Cano probably slides back to the 20-25 homer range…..he still should hit for high average and hit loads of doubles for awhile though

  156. mick December 9th, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p6MlkxfaYI

  157. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    Alas I must part company soon w no Bailey in tow.

    Perhaps tomorrow ?

    Maybe this Homer will right about the Yankees instead of the tales of Ulysses.

    Parting is such sweet sorrow.

    :(

  158. Chip December 9th, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    blake December 9th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
    @TBrownYahoo: Angels primarily focused on Cahill and Skaggs in Trumbo talks. Pitching first for Angels, of course.
    ———————-

    If Trumbo does go to the Diamondbacks I push even harder to pick up Matt Davidson.

  159. bigdan22 December 9th, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    austinmac December 9th, 2013 at 10:23 pm

    “Gammons has an article saying they are not posting him. Can’t vouch for it. But, as Face told us yesterday, Ratuken is a huge company. They can easily afford to take a stand.”

    ———

    Wonder if the Yanks even want him posted now. They may have anticipated this and already spent his money on Beltran.

  160. blake December 9th, 2013 at 10:26 pm

    The latest I’ve read on Tanaka is that they don’t want to post him but may respect his wishes if he wants them to

  161. jacksquat December 9th, 2013 at 10:27 pm

    Shame Spencer December 9th, 2013 at 9:26 pm
    Yankee Trader December 9th, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    “– Rival executives believe the most Brett Gardner can bring back via trade is a #4 starter. So to put it in perspective, if the Yankees were to hypothetically trade Gardner to the Minnesota Twins…he’d bring back Phil Hughes.”

    ——————-

    That’s amazing lol.

    And false. Hughes wasn’t even a #4 last year, and a #4 for the Twins isn’t a #4 for the Yankees, or in general.

  162. Yankee Trader December 9th, 2013 at 10:28 pm

    Lots of parts and pieces in play for the NYY, including, but not limited to Gardner, Ichiro, Phelps, Nuno, Warren, Claiborne, Cervelli, Romaine, Nunez, Almonte, Heathcott, Austin, Williams and anyone else you can think of.
    ——-
    Wanzies

    I’ll be pleasantly surprised if any of the above alone or as a package can land the Yankees a young major league 2nd baseman, or a SS who could play third until a Jeter retires, or find a good starter that can give you 200 innings.

    I hope I’m wrong, but the Yankees don’t have what other GMs want in order to get a Jason Kipnis type player. Well they do , but trading Nova or DRob creates another problem.

  163. Chip December 9th, 2013 at 10:28 pm

    blake December 9th, 2013 at 10:25 pm
    I think Cano probably slides back to the 20-25 homer range…..he still should hit for high average and hit loads of doubles for awhile though
    ———————–

    Cano’s future (much like Ellsbury’s) will be determined by how much the park gets into his head. If Cano keeps hitting to all fields he should be fine; if he tries to muscle more balls out he’s going to fall apart.

  164. UpState December 9th, 2013 at 10:30 pm

    joeman December 9th, 2013 at 7:51 pm
    Nunez for panda…Well let me think about that……….OK
    ==========================================

    Nunez for an actual panda would be a good day !!!

  165. blake December 9th, 2013 at 10:32 pm

    Cano is the only 200 million dollar played without a 1 OPS seadon. Fielder has 2, Votto has 2…..and Arod and Pujols both have bunches

  166. Chip December 9th, 2013 at 10:33 pm

    Part of the problem with saying how Cano performed at Safeco is that he won’t be facing the Seattle pitchers any more.

    He has good numbers against the Angels, A’s and Rangers – that matters a lot more.

  167. blake December 9th, 2013 at 10:34 pm

    @mikeaxisa: Yankees have 90 mins to drop someone from the 40-man if they want to make a Rule 5 Draft pick. Also need to clear a spot for Beltran.

    Later vern

  168. jacksquat December 9th, 2013 at 10:35 pm

    hectorlopez December 9th, 2013 at 10:29 pm
    “Cano has 4 hr in 152 pa in safeco.”

    how many with the fences moved in?

    Don’t know, but there are only 4 to work with…

    I think in RF they mostly just lowered the wall.

  169. blake December 9th, 2013 at 10:35 pm

    @jcrasnick: Source confirms @TBrownYahoo report that Cahill and Skaggs are among names being discussed in Trumbo talks. #angels #dbacks

  170. jacksquat December 9th, 2013 at 10:36 pm

    I’ll take Panda, but not for Gardner. Maybe Phelps+

  171. Chip December 9th, 2013 at 10:37 pm

    blake December 9th, 2013 at 10:34 pm
    @mikeaxisa: Yankees have 90 mins to drop someone from the 40-man if they want to make a Rule 5 Draft pick. Also need to clear a spot for Beltran.

    Later vern
    ——————–

    My guesses: Dean Anna and either Huff or Flores

  172. jacksquat December 9th, 2013 at 10:38 pm

    hectorlopez December 9th, 2013 at 10:36 pm
    cano hit one homer in 13 at bats at safeco in 2013

    Well if he stays on that pace he’ll hit 40. ;)

  173. blake December 9th, 2013 at 10:39 pm

    Kung fu Panda!

  174. blake December 9th, 2013 at 10:40 pm

    @jcrasnick: Also hearing #dbacks Shin Soo Choo stuff in lobby, but I lack the brainpower to figure out how Arizona could afford him.

  175. Yankee Trader December 9th, 2013 at 10:42 pm

    116—>170 homers at Safeco 2012 as compared to 2013

    http://www.hittrackeronline.co.....e=ballpark

  176. Chip December 9th, 2013 at 10:42 pm

    JJ Cooper’s list of players to watch in tomorrow’s Rule 5 draft…seems like the Yankees are all but certain to lose Tommy Kahnle:

    http://www.baseballamerica.com.....-to-watch/

  177. jacksquat December 9th, 2013 at 10:43 pm

    Panda looks like he went from huge to just overweight, so I’ll take him. Dude can hit.

  178. MTU December 9th, 2013 at 10:43 pm

    D’backs are also in the Market for an Ace.

    So they might hot on the trail of Price or Sale.

    They have the prospects.

    Would be strong for them to walk away w Choo and an Ace pitcher.

  179. Yankee Trader December 9th, 2013 at 10:49 pm

    Time to go

    Good night everyone

  180. wanzies222 December 9th, 2013 at 10:50 pm

    Crasnick isn’t dumb, just playing….

    Choo will cost 20M/year. Cahill is 7.7 and 12.0 for the next two years. They just dumped Bell and saved 5.5 for 2014. Trumbo will make .6 for 2014.

    Cody Ross is owed roughly 10M and will be on the block.

    Not that hard. Next question.

  181. jacksquat December 9th, 2013 at 10:51 pm

    Safeco went from 29th in HR park factor in 2012 to 21st in 2013.

    YS was 9th.

  182. Chip December 9th, 2013 at 10:51 pm

    Two trades:

    Brett Gardner for Homer Bailey

    Eduardo Nunez and Bryan Mitchell for Dan Murphy and Juan Ligeras

  183. blake December 9th, 2013 at 10:51 pm

    “Not that hard. Next question.”

    How do we get a 3B and 2B and starter and relievers ? :)

  184. blake December 9th, 2013 at 10:52 pm

    Nobody wants Nunez

  185. luis December 9th, 2013 at 10:52 pm

    Sorry guys… I had to go…I am turning in anyway…A bid all a very good night

  186. Jackson December 9th, 2013 at 10:53 pm

    what does Maddon mean by this? Is Ellsbury a problem in the clubhouse?

    A lot of the behind the scenes stuff to me is the most interesting part of that. You know what they’re like as players and what you pretty much expect to perform on the field. But I don’t know what the dynamic is inside the building, and that is really important too.

  187. Shame Spencer December 9th, 2013 at 10:53 pm

    Eduardo Nunez and Bryan Mitchell for Dan Murphy and Juan Ligeras

    ——————-

    I dunno anything about Ligeras but it looks like that would make the Mets worse..

  188. jacksquat December 9th, 2013 at 10:54 pm

    According to Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times (Twitter link), the Cubs have received inquiries about Starlin Castro’s availability, but have no intention of trading him. “We’re excited to have Starlin,” said GM Jed Hoyer.

  189. Chip December 9th, 2013 at 10:55 pm

    blake December 9th, 2013 at 10:52 pm
    Nobody wants Nunez
    ———————

    True. But if any team would, it might be the Mets who are desperate to move on from Tejada.

  190. Against All Odds December 9th, 2013 at 10:55 pm

    Take care luis

  191. wanzies222 December 9th, 2013 at 10:56 pm

    blake -

    I’ll give you one more before I go…

    Hypothetically, of course….

    Say Choo signs with Arizona, now they are looking for salary relief. They like their own MI and could live with some combo of Prado, Davidson, Owings and Gregorius in the 2B, SS, 3B spots. That makes Aaron Hill and his 11/12/12 salary available. Arizona still needs a BU C and BP.

    Looks like a match to me. And you haven’t touched your other assets yet. JMO

  192. Chip December 9th, 2013 at 10:59 pm

    Wanzies –

    If Arizona winds up with Choo and Trumbo then I absolutely think – given the right offer – Hill and Davidson could be on the block.

  193. Tabbert December 9th, 2013 at 11:01 pm

    Streamer projects a .289/.352/.478 line and a 134 wRC+ for Panda for 2014.

    If you put those projections in the Lineup Analysis, it puts the Yankees at a potential of 4.8-4.9 runs a game. That would mean a top 3 offensive output in MLB last year. The worst potential lineups all have Jeter hitting 2nd, while the best lineup we could put out has him batting 8th or 9th.

  194. Yes You McCann December 9th, 2013 at 11:03 pm

    Is Brett Gardner guaranteed or likely to be eligible for a qualifying offer?

    The Boys are laughable. A franchise in disarray.

  195. blake December 9th, 2013 at 11:06 pm

    Aaron Hill is pretty good….

  196. trisha - true pinstriped blue December 9th, 2013 at 11:07 pm

    “Did they at lest do lumbar flexion extension plain X-rays in the ER?”

    Trader – I don’t know what that means. When I went to the ER in the beginning they took x-rays of my spine and the report said something about possibility of pars defect in L1 S1. (something like that). That’s why they originally told me I should have an MRI. Tonight I went to an MRI center. So whatever may be going on with L1 S1, there’s definitely also something going on with L4 L5.

    All I know is that I didn’t have anything going on before I lifted the stuff that caused the pain. So if lifting can cause a bulging disc, then maybe that’s what I have. But whatever I have had to have come from the lifting!

    Well, the mystery will be solved in a few days.

  197. wanzies222 December 9th, 2013 at 11:08 pm

    Chip -

    Ross will be for sure, but not likely he can get moved til he shows his hip is healed. Hill could be had, IMO.

    It would be appropriate to ask for a prospect back if one took Hill as a salary dump. Particularly if the D’backs got a RH C to offset Montero and his not good OPS vs LHP (say, Cervelli). Add a couple of BP arms and call it even.

    That should leave D’backs enough prospects to get Price or Sale or whomever they end up getting (Price will likely take Bradley and two more non-pitching prospects, as TB is loaded with arms, but not OF). If I’m Ariz, I ask for an OF prospect from the NYY to toss to TB.

  198. jacksquat December 9th, 2013 at 11:11 pm

    Tabbert December 9th, 2013 at 11:01 pm
    Streamer projects a .289/.352/.478 line and a 134 wRC+ for Panda for 2014.

    If you put those projections in the Lineup Analysis, it puts the Yankees at a potential of 4.8-4.9 runs a game. That would mean a top 3 offensive output in MLB last year. The worst potential lineups all have Jeter hitting 2nd, while the best lineup we could put out has him batting 8th or 9th.

    It depends on how Jeter hits. But yeah if he hits sort of how I expect him too then I would have him lower vs rhp. But Girardi wouldn’t do that for at least half the season.

    vs rhp I would start with Gardner – Ellsbury – Beltran.

  199. yankinvegas December 9th, 2013 at 11:16 pm

    Trish,
    Good luck to you with your back. I just had another MRI with dye on my back. My problems are L3-4 and L4-5.
    I had two laser surgeries this year and still have extreme pain in my feet. They’re trying to see if the surgeries opened up the passages so that a series of epidurals will do the trick on the pain.
    I sympathize with you.

  200. UpState December 9th, 2013 at 11:17 pm

    Chip December 9th, 2013 at 10:55 pm
    blake December 9th, 2013 at 10:52 pm
    Nobody wants Nunez
    ———————

    True. But if any team would, it might be the Mets who are desperate to move on from Tejada.
    ==================================
    Let’s go Mets !!!

    ….he’d probably be a good player for them…

    Good Luck, Nunnie !!!

    (…..oh…..sorry….thought he was already traded…..sigh)

  201. trisha - true pinstriped blue December 9th, 2013 at 11:18 pm

    MTU – they gotta do something because I cannot function this way.

  202. austinmac December 9th, 2013 at 11:18 pm

    Trisha,

    Good luck with your back. It sounded like a disc early on. Injection therapy is worth a try. Sometimes it takes two.

  203. yankinvegas December 9th, 2013 at 11:19 pm

    As for baseball, I think Jacoby can hit 20 HR’s regularly as a Yankee. I don’t care what Cano does. He’s not on my team, so he is of no interest to me except for the 6 times we play them
    Madden’s column on Daily News website about how George and Miller lack the “integrity” to make the HoF would actually have a purpose if I printed it out and use it to line a birdcage.
    The man is an idiot.

  204. trisha - true pinstriped blue December 9th, 2013 at 11:20 pm

    yankinvegas, all this from lifting something heavy. Go figure. (I still say the chiropractor didn’t help the situation).

    What exactly are the problems with L3 and 4 and 4 and 5?

  205. Yes You McCann December 9th, 2013 at 11:20 pm

    I came to a Yankees blog and found a medical blog instead. :|

  206. Chip December 9th, 2013 at 11:20 pm

    A few interesting tidbits:

    1. Joel Sherman asked executives from six teams about whether or not the Yankee outfield prospects are impact players (Austin, Heathcott and Williams) and said “the general consensus is no.” Now, a) that’s a small sample size and b) general consensus among 6 could be 3 with two saying yes and one saying maybe.

    2. Keep an eye on the Yankees and Danny Espinosa. He played (poorly) through injuries last year but he’s a switch hitter and in 2011 and 2012 hit 21 and 17 HR (with a low OBP) he’s only turning 27 this season and could be an interesting guy to buy low on and look at for 2b.

    3. Look at Clayton Richard as a possible back of the rotation guy. I think he’s probably better suited for a big NL park

    4. I still think the Yankees end up signing Johan Santana

    5. I also think the Yankees will sign Almedys Diaz and Tanaka

  207. Yes You McCann December 9th, 2013 at 11:23 pm

    The Dodgers getting Price is entirely separate from keeping Kershaw. One has nothing to do with the other.

  208. yankinvegas December 9th, 2013 at 11:27 pm

    Trish,
    Herniation plus a congenital case of spinal stenosis led to extreme sciatica. No problems until I was 47. I’m 57 now and the last 10 years have been a series of injections, PT, surgeries, MRI.
    I tried acupuncture. I can live with the back pain but the pins and needles and the searing pain in my insteps is too much.
    I need the epidurals so I can quit the pain meds.

  209. blake December 9th, 2013 at 11:27 pm

    @DanBarbarisi: Person involved says Yankees have asked Reds about Homer Bailey. Dont know if Gardner was the return piece, but sure makes sense.

  210. UpState December 9th, 2013 at 11:28 pm

    Clayton Richard :

    ehhhhhh….injury…alot of HR’s in NL….WHIP over 1.3…..ehhhhhh…nah.

    http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/20.....ng-surgery

  211. Chip December 9th, 2013 at 11:28 pm

    Blake =

    What’s funny is that there was a time when they were both prospects where people in the industry scoffed at the notion of putting Homer Bailey in the same class as Phil Hughes.

  212. yankinvegas December 9th, 2013 at 11:29 pm

    I don’t pay any attention to what anonymous talent evaluators from other teams say about our players.
    The respondents are all anti-Yankee and in most cases so is the reporter. Especially Sherman.

  213. Chip December 9th, 2013 at 11:29 pm

    Night gang

  214. austinmac December 9th, 2013 at 11:35 pm

    Trisha,

    Each disc can compress a nerve. Each nerve affects a certain region of the leg, called a dermatone. Doctors can pretty well identify which disc by where the pain or numbness is in the leg. Then, they confirm with an MRI.

    Most do resolve. Injections can help until it does.

    Discs can be herniated by sneezing, twisting or for no identifiable act at all.

  215. austinmac December 9th, 2013 at 11:37 pm

    At one point, Hughes was the no. 1 prospect and Bailey was no.2. Those were the days.

  216. trisha - true pinstriped blue December 9th, 2013 at 11:50 pm

    Oh yankinvegas, that’s awful! I pray that the epidurals work for you. My best friend has had back issues for a long time and she finally started getting those shots and she said it’s like a miracle.

    I’m going to link you to a doctor here who has a pain clinic and people absolutely swear by it. The guy has been cutting edge all his life. Years ago he started a free-standing ER (think it could be the first in the country) because he got tired of practicing internal medicine. The guy is so beyond incredible in being able to diagnose things that soon just about everyone I know (me included) was going to him and using him as our PCP. Well he started this pain clinic, also the first in the country I believe, and it is supposed to be nothing short of miraculous. It might not hurt to give him a call sometime and discuss your condition. He’s a totally straight-up guy so he won’t blow smoke at you.

    http://cprcenters.com/dr-steph.....qacj40o7IU

  217. trisha - true pinstriped blue December 9th, 2013 at 11:54 pm

    Austin, thanks! That’s basically what happened. I went in for another shot this weekend (this time they tripled up on the amount, and boy did I feel it going in!) and the doctor told me that it was typically the L4 L5 that controlled the nerve where my pain was located. Sure as shootin’, those are the vertebrae affected.

    Those tramadol shots are gold. I would recommend them to anyone in pain. And I don’t think you can overdo them, so I’m happy to go in once a week and get shot up.

    :)

  218. UpState December 9th, 2013 at 11:56 pm

    Scooter Gennett :

    Brewers 23yo 2B

    230 ab…..6-21 .324 (.356 obp)

    * they currently have Ricky Weeks at 2B

  219. yankinvegas December 10th, 2013 at 12:02 am

    Thanks, Trish

  220. bbb51 December 10th, 2013 at 3:25 am

    Time for a new handle.

    jacksquat > bbb51

  221. trisha - true pinstriped blue December 10th, 2013 at 5:53 am

    Up because I can’t sleep. (should have taken something for pain before I went to sleep but I didn’t.)

    So I read through the posts because I had nothing better to do and noticed GF deriding the notion of pitching being the key to winning championships. It’s painting with a pretty broad brush to say that 27 championships were won with offense as their number one key. But in any event, anyone watching the teams in the 90s and early 2000s, those championship teams, knows unequivocally that it was the Yankee pitching that absolutely annihilated teams. They had an unbelievable corral of starters backed up by Ramiro Mendoza and then automatic with either Stanton or Nelson and then on to Mo. Period.

    Oh yeah GF. You mentioned that it was I, mick and Brian Cashman who felt that pitching was key. You might want to add Torre to that group because he continually said that pitching what was what would lead the Yankees to championships. And he was right.

    That said, it matters not to me how many buck up against that well understood, respected, and proven aspect of the game of baseball and dig their heels in and insist that it’s offense. Have at! And sit there every year when every single baseball expert at the beginning of every season talks about which teams have the best rotations and therefore should expect to be the most competitive and smirk and shake your head because of course, in spite of it all, you know better. Or as the saying goes, none are as blind as they who will not see.

    I’m not saying that offense didn’t play a role and sometimes a big role in championships. I’m saying that pitching was the key and it was nicely (or not so nicely sometimes) supplemented with offense.

    GF, you always remind me of the kid in the schoolyard who stands in a foot of snow and insists that it’s raining and refuses to acknowledge that the white stuff all around him is snow.

    *************

    Anyone who might have any kind of chronic pain that you’re living with (as opposed to this temporary situation that I have) might want to take a look at this website: http://cprcenters.com/ I’ve both read and heard great things about this doctor’s clinic. I know him personally because he used to be our ER doctor for may years and was always super cutting edge. All I know about his pain clinic is what I’ve heard and read because I haven’t had need to go there myself. But I know that he gets referrals from all over the country.

  222. trisha - true pinstriped blue December 10th, 2013 at 6:01 am

    I don’t remember how many years ago we were trying to get Doc as our pitcher but it wasn’t that long ago. If he had come, I believe he would have been in the middle of a 7-year contract, something like that. I don’t remember exactly what we offered and what he turned down. But something like that makes me wonder what someone like Doc would have done had he accepted the Yankee contract and found himself in the position he’s in right now. No way to know of course, but I wonder if he would have still retired or whether he would have finished out his contract.

    Can anyone think of any player who was in the middle of a contract and absent a season/career-ending injury decided to hang it up? Maybe it has happened. Maybe it has happened often. I don’t know. But I think it’s an interesting concept. I wonder how many players, had their contracts been up, would have walked away from the game but didn’t do it because they still had years left on their contracts? And is that really a great thing for the team? I’m thinking not.

  223. trisha - true pinstriped blue December 10th, 2013 at 6:01 am

    We’re getting snow today! YAY!!!

    Okay, time to see if there’s anything worth watching on television.

  224. joeman December 10th, 2013 at 6:13 am

    Tampa Bay Rays manager Joe Maddon tried to handicap the new landscape of the AL East with Cano leaving and Ellsbury heading leaving Boston to take his place in New York.

    “I mean, the Yankees lost a pretty good player,” Maddon said. “They gained a good player right there. Boston lost a good player with Ellsbury, but they have nice people in his place also. I don’t know. It’s almost like kind of a push feel to the whole thing, I think. Both of them will be really good again.”

  225. joeman December 10th, 2013 at 6:15 am

    trisha . I hate snow

  226. jmills December 10th, 2013 at 6:27 am

    If its going to snow, let me get buried, I hate having to set out in some middle of the road stuff. Who’s putting on the coffee?

  227. RhapsodyInBlue December 10th, 2013 at 6:40 am

    I hate snow but I’m ready for it.

  228. jmills December 10th, 2013 at 6:44 am

    Just pretend you’re gilles villeneuve on a snowmobile, I guess. I drive up to ten-eleven hours a day, so sometimes fantasy is a good thing.

  229. jmills December 10th, 2013 at 6:52 am

    ….Snow is relative; if I could go out slow walking along the banks of the Hudson with Natalie Merchant in my ears, it would be a different substance all together.

  230. trisha - true pinstriped blue December 10th, 2013 at 7:06 am

    I really really really love snow. :)

    jmills, why do you have to drive that much? Yikes!

  231. Bret The Hitman December 10th, 2013 at 7:11 am

    Sandoval + Tanaka please.

  232. RhapsodyInBlue December 10th, 2013 at 7:16 am

    Not the snow I hate, but the salt on the highways and my vehicles.

  233. jmills December 10th, 2013 at 7:20 am

    Trish, just the nature of the beast right now, we’re a small healthcare co., and I have to use my name for what its worth ( gives me practice on the normal meter ). I do love snow, especially upon those blue-grey evergreens lit up by an 8 am sun.

  234. 86w183 December 10th, 2013 at 7:31 am

    Good morning all —–

    I’m with Madden, the Yaks and Sawx should be really good next year. Hard to evaluate a team when you know they still have work to do on their roster.

    I was in NYC for the big blizzard around Christmas a couple of years ago. Central Park covered in snow as a really special place to be…. slip-sliding across Broadway while one idiot is trying to navigate the road, not so much.

  235. jmills December 10th, 2013 at 7:34 am

    rtsp://r4—sn-p5qlsu7k.googlevideo.com/CjYLENy73wIaLQkTtsdbtlz1oxMYJCAkFEIJbXYtZ29vZ2xlSARSBXdhdGNoYOWmtbK2zNzaUAw=/0/0/0/video.3gp

    Why Formula 1 rain was no problem for my man, gilles. Senna and villeneuve would have really gotten it on.

  236. tomingeorgia December 10th, 2013 at 7:37 am

    jmills,
    I just made another pot.

  237. jmills December 10th, 2013 at 7:45 am

    Thanks, Tom, I’ll take it on the run :)

  238. trisha - true pinstriped blue December 10th, 2013 at 8:01 am

    “Not the snow I hate, but the salt on the highways and my vehicles.”

    Now that I understand! Working out of my home AND being sort of laid up right now makes it possible for me to dreamily enjoy the snow that’s coming today.

    Since I was up early today, I looked out the window to see what was going on (nothing – it’s not supposed to come until this afternoon, anyway) but I did see redness in the sky on the horizon and it made me think of that little rhyme that my dad always used to say: Red sky at night, sailor’s delight. Red sky in morning, sailors take warning.

  239. blake December 10th, 2013 at 8:13 am

    Everybody has settled in and haggled now…..today you should see some things happen I would think

  240. blake December 10th, 2013 at 8:14 am

    Justin masterson: discuss

  241. blake December 10th, 2013 at 8:16 am

    @JeffPassan: Sources: Teams believe A’s have cooled on idea of trading Brett Anderson this week. May still go eventually. Just not close to a guarantee.

  242. blake December 10th, 2013 at 8:24 am

    @Ken_Rosenthal: One GM says #Dodgers in favorable position to land #Rays’ Price. His theory: #Mariners will say “no” on Walker, #DBacks “no” on Bradley.

  243. 86w183 December 10th, 2013 at 8:25 am

    My guess is they want more for Anderson than teams want to give up for a guy who has been injured for three years and is due to make $ 8 M.

    What about Justin Masterson? I think he’s really good and Cleveland will be hard-pressed to keep him beyond this upcoming season. He’d be an a-list starter if his control was more consistent. Sometimes he’s really locked in, but sometimes he’s sorta all over the place.

  244. austinmac December 10th, 2013 at 8:36 am

    Blake,

    Masters on is very good, but we run into the same issue of other teams having more to trade. They do seem to need a CF, but it would take much more, I think.

  245. 86w183 December 10th, 2013 at 8:52 am

    Cleveland has Bourne, Brantley and Stubbs. The one thing they don’t need is a CF.

    With Kazmir gone and Jimenez likely to leave dealing Masterson makes no sense to me unless they are look for two or three pitchers for one.

  246. trisha - true pinstriped blue December 10th, 2013 at 9:10 am

    “Justin masterson: discuss”

    Indians are crazy to even consider letting him go.

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