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Looking at some Yankees prospect rankings

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 18, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

J.R. Murphy, Derek Jeter

First, a quick announcement: We’re going to do a chat tomorrow at noon. It was quite obviously a late decision, but I’m flying home to Missouri on Friday — my family is celebrating the holiday a few days early — and I wanted to get in one last chat before the end of December. So, let’s talk tomorrow. Stop by at noon. If you’ve been there before, you know the drill. Noon. Chat. Right here on the blog. See ya then.

For now, let’s rewind a few days.

Prospect rankings are far more interesting as discussion points rather than definitive judgments. Team-by-team Top 10 lists are popular for obvious reasons, mostly the fact that they’re interesting. Agree or disagree, they’re an interesting way to look at, evaluate and discuss a team’s farm system. During the Winter Meetings, Baseball America released its Yankees Top 10 list (compiled by our old friend Josh Norris, who’s brought his usual fine work to BA). Earlier this week, Baseball Prospectus released its Yankees Top 10.

You’ll have to pay — and should pay — to get the full scouting reports and details of each list, but the names and numbers are fair game without a subscription. Here are the rankings (I’m focusing on these two if only because they’re two of the better known prospect-related sites out there), along with a few thoughts of my own.

SanchezBASEBALL AMERICA
1. Gary Sanchez, C
2. Slade Heathcott, OF
3. Mason Williams, OF
4. J.R. Murphy, C
5. Eric Jagielo, 3B
6. Aaron Judge, OF
7. Ian Clarkin, LHP
8. Greg Bird, 1B
9. Luis Severino, RHP
10. Gosuke Katoh, 2B

The first thing that stands out are Nos. 5 through 10: Four guys who were drafted in 2013, one guy who made his U.S. debut in 2013, and another guy who just played his first year of full-season ball. That’s the Yankees farm system in a nutshell. A lot of low-level upside, but the upper-level talent is both thin and uncertain. With guys like Judge and Clarkin and Severino, the ranking is all about upside. Judge has yet to take a pro at-bat, Clarkin has three pro games, and Severino has pitched in 10 regular season games in the States. Sanchez feels like an obvious and easy choice at No. 1, but Baseball America remains fairly bullish on Heathcott and Williams. Either that, or they’re acknowledging the risk that comes with the younger guys at the bottom of the Top 10. Maybe a little of both.

RamirezBASEBALL PROSPECTUS
1. Gary Sanchez, C
2. Jose Ramirez, RHP
3. J.R. Murphy, C
4. Slade Heathcott, OF
5. Tyler Austin, OF/3B
6. Mason Williams, OF
7. Gregory Bird, 1B
8. Eric Jagielo, 3B
9. Ian Clarkin, LHP
10. Aaron Judge, OF

Prospectus is bullish on Ramirez, who dazzled in spring training but had some injury problems during the regular season. Even so, his stuff makes him the system’s top upper-level rotation prospect (with the possible exception of Manny Banuelos). Interesting that both BP and BA agree on Murphy as a top five prospect in the Yankees system. That’s a credit to his improvement behind the plate and the belief that he’ll be a solid hitter. He’s the safest pick on either of these lists. Prospectus also gives a nod to Tyler Austin — coming off injury and disappointment in Triple-A — before venturing into those low-level guys with significant upside and massive hurdles to clear. Both Baseball Prospectus and Baseball America agree that the Yankees top three draft picks from 2013 immediately belong in the team’s Top 10 prospects. That’s not necessarily a good thing. Indicates just how few sure things the system has.

I think I might have come up with my own Top 10 Yankees prospects back when I was in Scranton, but I don’t think I’ve ever done it since I came to New York. There’s a good reason for that: I don’t see these guys or talk about them nearly as much as I did when I was covering Triple-A, but that doesn’t keep me from having a few thoughts on who stands out and who doesn’t in the Yankees farm system.

Banuelos• During a Baseball America chat, Norris revealed that he has Manny Banuelos at No. 11. I really haven’t tried to come up with a list of my own, but I’m thinking I might have had Banuelos in my top 10. Which is more risky, an upper-level pitcher coming off Tommy John or a first-year pro with hardly any professional experience? Both bring considerable uncertainty, but if I had to pick one to have in the system, I think I’d prefer Banuelos to Clarkin. That’s not at all an indictment of Clarkin, it’s just that we’ve seen Banuelos pitch well against Double-A hitters, and Tommy John has a pretty solid success rate these days. I wouldn’t rule out Banuelos as a Top 10 Yankees prospect, but that’s just another opinion in an exercise full of them.

• If you’ve never heard of Severino, that’s perfectly fine. I know him by name only. I was surprised to see him in Baseball America’s Top 10, but that’s not at all to say I disagree. I know his stuff is supposed to be good, and in this system, a guy with limited experience isn’t necessarily overshadowed. That said, I rarely pay attention to guys until they get much higher in the system. If he’s the real deal, he’ll force you to learn his name over time.

• No Rafael De Paula on either list. Another one that surprised me, but also one that leaves me with no real disagreement. He was overwhelming in Charleston this year, then he bumped up to Tampa and was very clearly exposed. Yet another reason I don’t pay too much attention until guys get to Double-A. Those low-level numbers can be deceiving. I know the Yankees like De Paula a lot, but there’s a lot of development to go.

Bird• Not allowed to post his rankings as they’re entirely behind a pay wall, but I will say that my old friend from the minor league complex, Patrick Teale, is a big believer in Greg Bird. Teale posts his own Top 50 Yankees prospects every year at Pinstripes Plus, and he tends to lean toward those high upside guys in the lower levels, generally preferring potential ahead of polish (that’s my assessment anyway, I think he would agree with that). Patrick’s list as Bird very high. I’m also pretty bullish on Bird if only because of the way he handled himself in big league camp this year. Incredibly young, but went about his business with no sense of being starstruck or overwhelmed. That impressed me. The jury is out on whether he’ll develop the kind of home run power expected from a first baseman, but he has an advanced hitting approach for a kid his age.

• I’ve had numerous people email me this winter asking about Eric Jagielo as a solution at third base in either 2014 or 2015. While Jagielo has far surpassed Dante Bichette Jr. in the organization’s third base pecking order, I’d urge a little more patience than plugging him into your big league expectations for the next two years. He’s a college bat, so he could move fairly quickly, but 2015 would be warp speed. If it happens, that’s terrific for the Yankees — means Jagielo has raked and forced their hand — but to set that as the expectation is a bit much.

• Before putting them in a Yankees Top 10, we have to … 1. Find out whether Peter O’Brien can play the field. 2. See Abiatal Avelino produce in a full-season league. 3. Get a full, healthy year out of Jose Campos. 4. Get a significant bounce-back performance from Tyler Austin. 5. See actual results and not just raw potential out of Bryan Mitchell.

Associated Press photo of Murphy; headshots of Sanchez, Ramirez, Banuelos and Bird

 
 

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205 Responses to “Looking at some Yankees prospect rankings”

  1. Jerkface December 18th, 2013 at 7:12 pm

    ?@npbtracker 9m

    Looks like Rakuten is not giving up on Tanaka. Hochi says they are going to offer him an $8m salary.

  2. luis December 18th, 2013 at 7:18 pm

    Good evening,

    Excellent post Chad…Thanks for a very interesting take on the farm…

  3. chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 7:20 pm

    Looks like Rakuten is not giving up on Tanaka. Hochi says they are going to offer him an $8m salary.

    ——–

    Disappointing news

  4. Howler December 18th, 2013 at 7:23 pm

    I’m sure he’ll turn it down..more money and fame awaits him in the U.S. I don’t think you’ll really want to have a player that doesn’t have much interest in playing for your team. 20m isn’t Chicken Feed, Stanley…Let’s hope Eagles feel the same way…

  5. blake December 18th, 2013 at 7:27 pm

    Jerkface says:
    December 18, 2013 at 7:12 pm
    ?@npbtracker 9m

    Looks like Rakuten is not giving up on Tanaka. Hochi says they are going to offer him an $8m salary.

    Uhm he will get 20 in MLB

  6. blake December 18th, 2013 at 7:28 pm

    @RyanORourkeMLB: Source: Mark Reynolds and Yankees moving closer to a deal.

    Bleh

  7. hardwired7 December 18th, 2013 at 7:29 pm

    Go-go-Gosuke!

    I’m hugging Katoh.

  8. blake December 18th, 2013 at 7:31 pm

    These lists are fine to look at but they can change dramatically quickly…..Banuelos looks healthy and has a good year then he could arguably be #1 next year and he’s not even on the list.

    Prospect rankers are an extremely reactionary bunch

  9. RadioKev December 18th, 2013 at 7:31 pm

    Jerkface December 18th, 2013 at 7:12 pm
    ?@npbtracker 9m

    Looks like Rakuten is not giving up on Tanaka. Hochi says they are going to offer him an $8m salary.
    ————-

    Yankees need to get some international propaganda churning to shame Rakuten!

    Shame on you! Free Tanaka!

  10. chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    blake says:December 18, 2013 at 7:28 pm@RyanORourkeMLB: Source: Mark Reynolds and Yankees moving closer to a deal.Bleh

    ——

    I guess Reynolds has his good points: can play 1st and 3rd (somewhat adequately), provides power, is a UVA grad :)

    It would be nice however, if they could sign a lefty swinging backup at 1st instead

  11. RadioKev December 18th, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    Not sure these lists are ringing endorsements of Jagielo, Clark or Judge… I think it’s a damning of our system.

  12. jmills December 18th, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    http://r7—sn-ux3n588t-mj.....&mv=m

    R.I.P., Billy Jack , ” One Tin Soldier “, always puts me in place.

  13. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 7:35 pm

    Does Reynolds eliminate Baker…? Because I’d rather have Baker.

  14. blake December 18th, 2013 at 7:35 pm

    RadioKev says:
    December 18, 2013 at 7:34 pm
    Not sure these lists are ringing endorsements of Jagielo, Clark or Judge… I think it’s a damning of our system.

    All 3 guys making the top 10 in the year they were drafted is a good endorsement for them…..it’s a bad endorsement for the system

  15. austinmac December 18th, 2013 at 7:35 pm

    Don’t you hate it when slaves are only paid $8M/yr.? It’s wrong, I tell you.

    It’s beginning to look like Tanaka is our first and only real non-dumpster starter we are considering. He better post.

  16. blake December 18th, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    Shame Spencer says:
    December 18, 2013 at 7:35 pm
    Does Reynolds eliminate Baker…? Because I’d rather have Baker.

    One would think they wouldn’t sign both…..it’s redundant

  17. Ted Nelson December 18th, 2013 at 7:37 pm

    “That’s the Yankees farm system in a nutshell. A lot of low-level upside, but the upper-level talent is both thin and uncertain.”

    No, that’s the preference shown in those rankings. BP’s rankings include 2 more guys in the top 10 from the upper minors.

    ” Both Baseball Prospectus and Baseball America agree that the Yankees top three draft picks from 2013 immediately belong in the team’s Top 10 prospects. That’s not necessarily a good thing. Indicates just how few sure things the system has.”

    No, it indicates that you don’t look at a lot of rankings. 1st rounders usually appear in any team’s top 10.

    Baseball America has two 2013 1st rounders in the CARDINALS top 10. Why would you write about something you clearly know very little about?

  18. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 7:39 pm

    One would think they wouldn’t sign both…..it’s redundant

    ————-

    I figured.. I don’t remember Reynolds having particularly good splits but I’m too lazy to check.

  19. austinmac December 18th, 2013 at 7:40 pm

    Ted, here is another question. Why do you insist on making yourself so unpleasant.? Is it a personality disorder? Unpleasant real life? Mean spouse?

    You cannot offer an opinion without being insulting. Go away.

  20. blake December 18th, 2013 at 7:41 pm

    I would rather have baker too…..he does one thing well (hit LHP) ….Reynolds doesn’t do anything especially well other than hit some homers

  21. jmills December 18th, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    We also lost Blue Eyes, Peter O’Toole this week; boy, I’m really off b-ball, then again, nothing happening in Jay Land.

  22. blake December 18th, 2013 at 7:45 pm

    Franklin for Gardner? What say y’all?

  23. jmills December 18th, 2013 at 7:45 pm

    If Tanaka is that good, the Jays better damn well explode and get it done,……if they want me to splurge on gas, atrocious parking, and projectedly having to sit beside some unmentionables, not to mention an entire day off I could be perfectly spending avec les plantes.

  24. pkyankfan69 December 18th, 2013 at 7:47 pm

    Franklin for Gardner? What say y’all?
    —–
    If we sign Choo (seems unlikely) sure… If it’s going to move Ichiro into the starting lineup, no thanks.

  25. luis December 18th, 2013 at 7:47 pm

    Mac,

    He is our resident expert :oops:

  26. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 7:47 pm

    blake December 18th, 2013 at 7:45 pm

    Franklin for Gardner? What say y’all?

    —————

    I’d do it. Not sure that the M’s would.

  27. pkyankfan69 December 18th, 2013 at 7:49 pm

    I just watched Elysium… Solid movie but not nearly as good as District 9.

  28. Ted Nelson December 18th, 2013 at 7:49 pm

    “Ted, here is another question. Why do you insist on making yourself so unpleasant.? Is it a personality disorder? Unpleasant real life? Mean spouse?”

    I don’t like when people make definitive statements about things that they know very little about. Bullheadedly spreading ignorance to other people is one of the worst things that a person can do in my opinion.

    Here is a question for you: why are you trying to insult my personal life based on blog comments? Have I ever said anything nearly as insulting to anyone on here as what you have just said to me? It seems that you are the one who has a problem with insulting people on an anonymous blog.

    “You cannot offer an opinion without being insulting. Go away.”

    You’re reading that tone into the comment. It was not particularly insulting. He is incorrect in his assumption that having multiple 1st rounders make your top 10 prospects list is a bad sign for your farm system. I mean obviously it would be better if you had so many great prospects that they didn’t, but it almost always happens on every team. Logically he is talking about something he doesn’t know much about. It’s not an insult. It’s just the logical conclusion based on his statement.

  29. Chad Jennings December 18th, 2013 at 7:51 pm

    Ted Nelson December 18th, 2013 at 7:37 pm e

    No, it indicates that you don’t look at a lot of rankings. 1st rounders usually appear in any team’s top 10.

    Baseball America has two 2013 1st rounders in the CARDINALS top 10. Why would you write about something you clearly know very little about?

    You’re right man, I have absolutely no experience looking at this sort of thing.

    It’s not at all unusual to see a team’s first-round pick slide into its Top 10, but to see three picks from this year’s draft — or four in the case of the BA ranking — says quite a bit. But again, these rankings are all about opinion. I’ll go back to things I know something about.

  30. luis December 18th, 2013 at 7:52 pm

    Chad Jennings December 18th, 2013 at 7:51 pm
    Ted Nelson December 18th, 2013 at 7:37 pm e

    No, it indicates that you don’t look at a lot of rankings. 1st rounders usually appear in any team’s top 10.

    Baseball America has two 2013 1st rounders in the CARDINALS top 10. Why would you write about something you clearly know very little about?

    You’re right man, I have absolutely no experience looking at this sort of thing.

    It’s not at all unusual to see a team’s first-round pick slide into its Top 10, but to see three picks from this year’s draft — or four in the case of the BA ranking — says quite a bit. But again, these rankings are all about opinion. I’ll go back to things I know something about.

    =================

    Well said Chad…. I

  31. comet December 18th, 2013 at 7:54 pm

    Ted Nelson = WCYF

  32. jmills December 18th, 2013 at 7:55 pm

    pky, I watched an early nineties film last night avec Juliette Binoche and Jeremy Irons about how a father betrays his son. I youtube it and can’t recall the title.

  33. bbb51 December 18th, 2013 at 7:56 pm

    blake December 18th, 2013 at 7:28 pm
    @RyanORourkeMLB: Source: Mark Reynolds and Yankees moving closer to a deal.

    Blech. I guess he’s cheaper than Baker?

  34. chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 7:56 pm

    Ted, its somewhat obvious that no one on the blog (Chad included) can measure up to you intellectually… a bit of advice (take with a grain of salt) – take a step back and review the content and tone of your posts… if you agree that they are rude and condescending, then try to be more understanding of our dimwittedness. If you see nothing wrong with your posts… oh well… by all means continue.

  35. jmills December 18th, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    Comet, seems like we’re going to get more slop upon us. I’m just going to keep on driving.

  36. mick December 18th, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    with reynolds nuney is trade bait.
    roberts/johnson platoon
    or reynolds/johnson platoon roberts a switcher?

  37. blake December 18th, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    . “Logically he is talking about something he doesn’t know much about. It’s not an insult. It’s just the logical conclusion based on his statement.”

    Chad knows nothing about the minors….he was only a beat writer there and his job is to cover the team and farm systems…..come on man

  38. Ted Nelson December 18th, 2013 at 8:01 pm

    “All 3 guys making the top 10 in the year they were drafted is a good endorsement for them…..it’s a bad endorsement for the system”

    What’s your opinion of the Cardinals’ system? The Diamondbacks’ system?

    Both had multiple 2013 1st rounders make their top 10, and they were ranked #8 and 9 based on BA’s top 20 lists (don’t think that the 2014 BA farm system rankings are out yet).

    I don’t think that the Yankees’ system is that great, but having first rounders make top 10 lists isn’t much of a sign that it’s a bad system.

  39. jmills December 18th, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    Mick, man, I’ve never taken the time to wish you well; whatever you have planned over the next ten days or so, I hope its a blast – ditto for everybody else.

  40. chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    mick says:December 18, 2013 at 8:00 pmwith reynolds nuney is trade bait.roberts/johnson platoonor reynolds/johnson platoon roberts a switcher?

    ———-

    Roberts is switch but much less effective from the right side… Im thinking Roberts/Ryan and Johnson/Reynolds… just my guess

  41. Against All Odds December 18th, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    Ted isn’t WCYF at least I don’t think so.

  42. mick December 18th, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    unless they get baker as an extra OF and have roberts play against rightys, baker leftys
    in that case ichiro and wells could be gone

  43. Ted Nelson December 18th, 2013 at 8:04 pm

    “Chad knows nothing about the minors….he was only a beat writer there and his job is to cover the team and farm systems…..come on man”

    I said nothing about what he knows about the minors. I am talking about what he knows about top 10 lists.

    This isn’t a matter of opinion or debate. If he does not think that first rounders generally make top 10 lists, he does not know much about them.

  44. austinmac December 18th, 2013 at 8:04 pm

    Ted,

    RAB members have been delighted to have you come here. Their gain, our loss.

    You opinions are welcome, your insults are not.

  45. mick December 18th, 2013 at 8:05 pm

    double platoons at 2nd and 3rd oh my

  46. Ted Nelson December 18th, 2013 at 8:08 pm

    “If you see nothing wrong with your posts… oh well… by all means continue.”

    I appreciate the advice, but I clearly see nothing wrong with my comments. They are words on a page. People read tone into them.

    I have never said that I am more intelligent than anyone. If people make incorrect comments, though, and I notice it, I am going to point it out.

  47. blake December 18th, 2013 at 8:08 pm

    The Cardinals and Dbacks have two of the best prospects in baseball in Taveras and Bradley…..no it’s not necessarily a bad thing that if you have recent draftees in your top 10…..but if all 3 guys were drafted near the back of the 1st round and all 3 guys made it then that woukd suggest there isn’t a lot ahead of them. Shipley for the Dbacks was the 15th overall pick…..

  48. austinmac December 18th, 2013 at 8:08 pm

    Mick,

    Joe can pretend he is Stengal with the platooning.

  49. blake December 18th, 2013 at 8:09 pm

    “I said nothing about what he knows about the minors. I am talking about what he knows about top 10 lists.”

    What?

  50. mick December 18th, 2013 at 8:09 pm

    thats 7 IF’s and I do mean ifs in the IF
    reynolds can BU1B
    nuney gone
    4 OF’s + baker

    ells
    jete
    beltran
    soriano
    tex
    mccann
    reynolds/johnson
    roberts/baker
    gardy

  51. mick December 18th, 2013 at 8:10 pm

    Mac- Joe will love this team.

  52. Ted Nelson December 18th, 2013 at 8:10 pm

    “but if all 3 guys were drafted near the back of the 1st round and all 3 guys made it then that woukd suggest there isn’t a lot ahead of them. Shipley for the Dbacks was the 15th overall pick…..”

    Did you really just take the one out of the 4 who wasn’t a late first rounder?

    Stop making excuses.

  53. I am Brett Godner December 18th, 2013 at 8:12 pm

    blake December 18th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
    “I said nothing about what he knows about the minors. I am talking about what he knows about top 10 lists.”

    What?
    ———————————-

    I know. Don’t let it make your head hurt. For some people it’s not about the game at all. It’s about arguing on the internets. I don’t think they even bother watching the games.

  54. Chad Jennings December 18th, 2013 at 8:12 pm

    Ted Nelson December 18th, 2013 at 8:01 pm e

    What’s your opinion of the Cardinals’ system? The Diamondbacks’ system?

    Talk about stuff I don’t know much about, I’m not in a position to give you a meaningful evaluation of the Cardinals or Diamondbacks system. I’m not basing my evaluation of the Yankees farm system on what’s happening with another team’s rankings. I’m basing it on what I know of this minor league system and my time covering baseball at both the major league and minor league level.

    To see four picks from the 2013 draft — one of whom still hasn’t played in a single professional game, another of whom was taken 66th overall — says something to me about the lack of reliable, upper-level prospects in the Yankees system. The better choices for rankings like this are the guys who were just added to the system and have a lot to prove. I think that’s relevant. I also believe it’s accurate because I know the Yankees system and know the problems they’ve had with some of their upper-level guys. That’s not to say a guy like Tyler Austin couldn’t rebound, or that a guy like Shane Greene can’t be a big leaguer, only that the Yankees system is thin in the upper levels and coming off a bad year for a few key guys, and I believe that’s opened the door for more first-year pros to slide into their Top 10.

    If that offended you, I’m sorry. Just the way it goes, I suppose.

  55. Yankee Trader December 18th, 2013 at 8:13 pm

    Mac and Blake

    Latest rumors from Japan on Tanaka

    ===
    When asked about the possibility that he might not be posted, Tanaka replied:
    “That is not something I will probably say. The posting system is a right the organization has. If they say they do not want to post me and that they want me to stay, then as a professional [athlete], I will still do my best. I think that is what it means to be a professional athlete. I am prepared for that as well.”
    Source: Sports Hochi 12/18/2013
    ===
    Arn Tellem might be Tanaka’s agent, according to ZakZak.
    Source: ZakZak 12/18/2013
    ===
    Sponichi is already talking about a possible match-up dates between Tanaka and Yu Darvish, assuming the Angels sign him.
    Source: Sponichi 12/18/2013
    ===
    [UPDATE @ 10:05pm]
    Chief Scout Hiroshi Abe told reporters today that it might take the organization some time to finalize a decision on Tanaka because it was not a simple discussion.
    Source: Sports Hochi 12/18/2013

  56. I am Brett Godner December 18th, 2013 at 8:14 pm

    “thats 7 IF’s and I do mean ifs in the IF”

    That line is pure gold. Johnson can play a little OF too. Funny how Johnson is slowly looking like the reliable part.

  57. I am Brett Godner December 18th, 2013 at 8:16 pm

    Texas signs Tanaka. Damn it.

    ” Per the Japanese newspaper Sponichi, the Rangers and OF Kensuke Tanaka have agreed upon a minor league contract.”

    Nice of them to include the ST invite.

  58. bbb51 December 18th, 2013 at 8:16 pm

    Gawd, this is like watching Congress try to get something done.

  59. jmills December 18th, 2013 at 8:16 pm

    I’ve lost the thread. Austin, don’t worry about that tube amp equipment, just put la Radio CBC Francais on that ancient ghetto blaster from the bathroom, and things will work out just fine :D ( Morrison recorded L.A. Woman from that fine makeshift b-room )

  60. mick December 18th, 2013 at 8:17 pm

    Mills thanks my friend same to you seeing DSO in a few weeks

  61. ac1 December 18th, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    Thinking the Yankees should consider moving Tyler Austin back to 3rd base since they have so many OF prospects and none on the infield.

  62. blake December 18th, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    Ted,
    Here is the thing….if you can’t see that many of your comments are rude then that’s a you problem. I think you’re an intelligent person that likes the game and likes to talk about the game and I’m fine with that…..I like intelligent conversation about baseball…..but you can’t be rude to people and then dismiss it because YOU don’t see it as being rude. That’s not how society works…..there is a standard of politeness that most folks get….perhaps your definition of “rude” needs to be re-evaluated

  63. mick December 18th, 2013 at 8:19 pm

    reynolds and baker, the wheels are turning jerry….

  64. chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 8:21 pm

    I said nothing about what he knows about the minors. I am talking about what he knows about top 10 lists.

    ——–
    I’m not sure what Chad was thinking… its easy! You post a top ten list based on someone else’s conjecture… you then give opinions based on that conjecture (which is what top tens are all about – generating discussion!)… WAIT A MINUTE! THATS EXACTLY WHAT HE DID!!!

    Ted – how about you give us an objective measure of the Yanks farm? When I say objective, I mean totally data based. Any opinions will be met with scorn… give me a minute before responding – I want to get a pen and paper so I can record your proclamation for posterity

  65. Hearn December 18th, 2013 at 8:22 pm

    Some thoughts on current status of Yankeedom:

    1. I can live with…in the short term… A Reynolds/Johnson platoon at 3B and a Roberts/Anna platoon at 2B (with the hopes Roberts stays healthy and reclaims some magic). It’s not ideal…but with the rest of the improvements on offense, let’s see what happens.

    2. Gotta go all in on Tanaka, if he doesn’t post than roll dice with Pineda, Banuelos etc. Garza and Jimenez, Santana are not good value at what they will cost.

    3. I think they should explore moving Murphy back to 3B in Spring Training. The kid can hit.

  66. austinmac December 18th, 2013 at 8:22 pm

    ac1,

    I think I have read the Yankees are considering moving him back to 3B.

  67. luis December 18th, 2013 at 8:23 pm

    chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 8:21 pm
    I said nothing about what he knows about the minors. I am talking about what he knows about top 10 lists.

    ——–
    I’m not sure what Chad was thinking… its easy! You post a top ten list based on someone else’s conjecture… you then give opinions based on that conjecture (which is what top tens are all about – generating discussion!)… WAIT A MINUTE! THATS EXACTLY WHAT HE DID!!!

    Ted – how about you give us an objective measure of the Yanks farm? When I say objective, I mean totally data based. Any opinions will be met with scorn… give me a minute before responding – I want to get a pen and paper so I can record your proclamation for posterity

    =====================

    Ted’s “State of the Union address”… Some will compare it to Lincoln’s…. ;)

  68. Ted Nelson December 18th, 2013 at 8:23 pm

    “I said nothing about what he knows about the minors. I am talking about what he knows about top 10 lists.”

    What?

    ———————————

    What I said is that you twisted my words around or misinterpreted my point. I never said anything about his baseball knowledge whatsoever. Top 10 lists are subjective lists made by journalists. That is what we are talking about. You could know tons about MILB and no nothing about prospect rankings.

    I have no idea what Chad Jennings knows and doesn’t. I just know that his comments demonstrate a total lack of familiarity with prospect rankings.

  69. I am Brett Godner December 18th, 2013 at 8:24 pm

    I’m still confused by the pen and paper comment. Is that some cut and paste app?

  70. luis December 18th, 2013 at 8:24 pm

    2. Gotta go all in on Tanaka, if he doesn’t post than roll dice with Pineda, Banuelos etc. Garza and Jimenez, Santana are not good value at what they will cost.

    ======================

    This..

  71. Chad Jennings December 18th, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    ac1 December 18th, 2013 at 8:18 pm e

    Thinking the Yankees should consider moving Tyler Austin back to 3rd base since they have so many OF prospects and none on the infield.

    Before he was pulled from the Fall League because of lingering wrist issues, the plan was for Austin to play a lot of first base and third base. Sounds like they’re considering the idea of giving him another infield look.

  72. mick December 18th, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    Ted’s “State of the Union address”… Some will compare it to Lincoln’s….
    =====================
    Yanks score 4 but 7 innings to go?

  73. ac1 December 18th, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    ac1,

    I think I have read the Yankees are considering moving him back to 3B.
    __

    Very smart move.
    He is one of our better prospects and we have plenty of OF prospects + Beltran and Ellsbury (and Gardner for one more year).

    Need a third base guy.

  74. blake December 18th, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    “I have no idea what Chad Jennings knows and doesn’t. I just know that his comments demonstrate a total lack of familiarity with prospect rankings.”

    Do you know about prospect ranking?

  75. chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 8:27 pm

    I am Brett Godner says:December 18, 2013 at 8:24 pmI’m still confused by the pen and paper comment. Is that some cut and paste app?

    ——-

    Lol! I’m a bit old school and may have gotten carried away :)

  76. pkyankfan69 December 18th, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    “You could know tons about MILB and no nothing about prospect rankings.”

    Grasping for straws

    I try not to get involved with stupid drama like this but Ted is ridiculous, it’s just frustrating to read all of this nonsense… Confrontational for no reason other than trying to prove that he is the smartest person in the room (with his precious fangraphs data clutched tightly of course.)

  77. Against All Odds December 18th, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    I appreciate the advice, but I clearly see nothing wrong with my comments. They are words on a page. People read tone into them.

    ————-

    Tone is a difficult thing to read on the internet and things get taken the wrong way from time to time. But that’s different than the comments you’re making. They aren’t extreme or hateful but there is a condescending feel to them.

    Correcting Chad is nor the issue. It’s throwing in “Why would you write about something you clearly know very little about’ line that ppl have a problem with.

  78. Ted Nelson December 18th, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    “you then give opinions based on that conjecture (which is what top tens are all about – generating discussion!)… WAIT A MINUTE! THATS EXACTLY WHAT HE DID!!!”

    Do you really not understand what I am saying? He says that it is a bad sign for 3 first rounders to make their top 10 lists. Yet, first rounders almost always make top 10 lists. Therefore, it is not a bad sign that your first rounders make your top 10.

    If you want further explanation, consider the variability in the other prospects on these two lists.

    “Ted – how about you give us an objective measure of the Yanks farm? ”

    Why do you keep responding to things that I never said?

    I specifically said that I don’t think they have a great system. Did you miss that?

    I made a really simple point here. I just said that this evidence does not indicate what Chad claims it does. That doesn’t say anything about his conclusion. It says something about his argument.

  79. RadioKev December 18th, 2013 at 8:29 pm

    Probably would do Franklin for Gardner straight up because of nothing more than years of control/age. Franklin would fill an organizationally position of need, but might help us less than Gardner in 2014.

    I don’t think that deal happens because it isn’t sweet enough for the M’s, plus then there’s some politics about signing Cano but trading to the Yankees. That would be kind of funny, wouldn’t it?

  80. jmills December 18th, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    http://r6—sn-tt17rn7r.c......&mv=m

    Mick, ” Sour Suite “, is my favourite Guess Who song,…..after ” American Woman “. :D

  81. Ted Nelson December 18th, 2013 at 8:31 pm

    “Correcting Chad is nor the issue. It’s throwing in “Why would you write about something you clearly know very little about’ line that ppl have a problem with.”

    He demonstrates no knowledge of what he’s talking about at all, yet he’s writing about it publicly. I actually want to know why.

    He could have taken two minutes to do some research and see if it was odd for late first rounders to appear in top 10 lists.

  82. chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    I made a really simple point here. I just said that this evidence does not indicate what Chad claims it does. That doesn’t say anything about his conclusion. It says something about his argument.

    ————

    Was your point made using data (other than a comparison to a Cards top ten list – apples to oranges)? I think I smell an opinion… strike one Ted

  83. luis December 18th, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    Ted,

    Chad covered the minors for years before he took over this gig… He knows very well about what kind of criteria BA and others take in to account at the moment to make those top ten lists…And yes, it is their opinion as much as Chad’s statement is an opinion as well… You may not agree with it ( heck I have had my disagreements with him at times ), but saying that he doesn’t know about it, is very rude and in turn shows how little you know… He is not being inaccurate , he is just expressing his opinion. So say that you disagree with him and move on, don’t try to lecture him on something that he is probably much better versed than you

  84. pkyankfan69 December 18th, 2013 at 8:34 pm

    Knicks up on the Bucks by 2 after the 1st quarter #baby steps

  85. Ted Nelson December 18th, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    “Do you know about prospect ranking?”

    Why do you always start grasping at straws when you’re wrong? Why keep arguing instead of just looking into things to see what the evidence says. Clearly I think I know about prospect rankings. Clearly I have bothered to look at them and compile some evidence, which is more than we’ve seen from Chad here.

    I have already provided you with some evidence that book 2 seconds to find. You tried to discredit that by pointing to 1 of the 4 prospects. Of course, that wasn’t actually a logical argument. The question is whether the second, late first rounder makes the top 10 list and not the first, mid first rounder.

  86. luis December 18th, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    mick December 18th, 2013 at 8:25 pm
    Ted’s “State of the Union address”… Some will compare it to Lincoln’s….
    =====================
    Yanks score 4 but 7 innings to go?

    =====================

    This is very meaningful ;)

  87. blake December 18th, 2013 at 8:37 pm

    Why do you always start grasping at straws when you’re wrong? Why keep arguing instead of just looking into things to see what the evidence says. Clearly I think I know about prospect rankings. Clearly I have bothered to look at them and compile some evidence, which is more than we’ve seen from Chad here.”

    I’m not the one grasping here….but ok Ted

  88. Triple Short of a Cycle December 18th, 2013 at 8:37 pm

    Ted Nelson,

    Try spending a little longer then a few weeks on here before you start acting like an ahole

  89. Against All Odds December 18th, 2013 at 8:37 pm

    He demonstrates no knowledge of what he’s talking about at all, yet he’s writing about it publicly. I actually want to know why.

    ———-

    No knowledge of how top ten lists shake out??? None what so ever???? I don’t think he did this without some thought behind it.

  90. I am Brett Godner December 18th, 2013 at 8:38 pm

    Ted Nelson December 18th, 2013 at 8:31 pm
    “Correcting Chad is nor the issue. It’s throwing in “Why would you write about something you clearly know very little about’ line that ppl have a problem with.”

    He demonstrates no knowledge of what he’s talking about at all, yet he’s writing about it publicly. I actually want to know why.

    He could have taken two minutes to do some research and see if it was odd for late first rounders to appear in top 10 lists.

    —————————————————————-

    Ted might want to look into a little reading comprehension. I believe he said having that many players from the 2013 draft was indicative of the Yankees farm as whole. All potential very little polish. In fact it seems like that was the thyme of the piece. Reading Ted. It’s FUNdamental.

  91. blake December 18th, 2013 at 8:39 pm

    So you can know a lot about the minors but if you try to rank the 10 best prospects using that knowledge…..that’s crazy! Ok just so were clear

  92. chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 8:40 pm

    I don’t think I’ve ever had a cross word with anyone on the blog, ever.

    Don’t worry, Ted… you’re not the first, its just SO hard to read tone in text

  93. I am Brett Godner December 18th, 2013 at 8:41 pm

    Knowing about minor league players is not the same as knowing top 10 lists Blake. Damn. Get with the program. We are talking about knowledge about lists not players.

  94. Chad Jennings December 18th, 2013 at 8:43 pm

    Ted Nelson December 18th, 2013 at 8:31 pm e

    “Correcting Chad is nor the issue. It’s throwing in “Why would you write about something you clearly know very little about’ line that ppl have a problem with.”

    He demonstrates no knowledge of what he’s talking about at all, yet he’s writing about it publicly. I actually want to know why.

    He could have taken two minutes to do some research and see if it was odd for late first rounders to appear in top 10 lists.

    Alright folks, my goodness, there is really no need for this conversation to take over the blog. I shouldn’t have gotten involved. That’s my fault. Here’s the last I’ll say about it in an effort to further clarify for Ted: I believe it’s telling that this many 2013 draft picks have made a pair of Yankees 2014 Top 10 prospects list. It’s not unusual for a first-rounder to immediately jump into a team’s Top 10 — that much is certainly true — but I find it telling that four of them made it into the BA rankings for the Yankees. I believe Jagielo would have made the Top 10 regardless, but the fact there was room for four of them suggests to me that other prospects left the door wide open for less-proven players to become standouts. I’m basing this on more than a decade spent covering baseball and looking at lists exactly like this one.

    You don’t find it telling that four first-rounders made the Yankees list. That’s fine. You’re right that first-year draft picks find their way into Top 10 lists all the time, and sometimes more than one gets in. I’m pointing out that finding room for four strikes me as unusual. It doesn’t strike you that way. Point made. Let’s all please move on to something far more productive.

    How about that Jesus Montero trade, huh?

    (TROLL!!!!)

  95. Yankee Trader December 18th, 2013 at 8:44 pm

    I come to this site because of Chad and his well thought out excellent, non biased reporting. While Chad hasn’t been able to incorporate an “Ignore” button into the blog, I have.

    With that, I’ll see you all at the Breakfast Club.

    Night All!

  96. blake December 18th, 2013 at 8:46 pm

    “How about that Jesus Montero trade, huh?”

    Who?

  97. Ted Nelson December 18th, 2013 at 8:47 pm

    Luis,

    You are offended because you are not actually responding to my comments. You are responding to what you read into my comment.

    You don’t have to know anything about how a list is compiled to know what is on it, and you can know all about how it’s compiled without knowing what is on the lists of other teams.

    “He is not being inaccurate , he is just expressing his opinion.”

    Calling something an “opinion” doesn’t give someone an excuse to say anything that they want. He made logical argument: the Yankees have 3 first rounders in their top 10, therefore their farm is week. The unstated premise here is that good systems do not have three first rounders in the top 10.
    That is what I am questioning. I never questioned his opinion. I questioned an assumption that underlies his opinion.
    I don’t think that any other team had 3 firsts this season, but two well regarded farm system with two firsts had both in their top 10. I haven’t bothered to look into it further to quantify how likely it is that all 3 firsts would end up in a team’s top 10. Anecdotally, though, it doesn’t seem unusual.

    It’s cute that you want to stand up for him, but that doesn’t make his argument any stronger. Look, I am not insulting the guy in any way. I have said nothing personal about him at all. All you you fanboys are the ones taking insult to me saying his argument is based on a weak foundation.

    “don’t try to lecture him on something that he is probably much better versed than you”

    He is better versed at looking at lists online what me? Click on this link and you too can become as well versed on BA’s top 10 lists for 2014 as anyone in the entire world: http://www.baseballamerica.com.....cts-index/

  98. I am Brett Godner December 18th, 2013 at 8:47 pm

    The Yanks traded Montero? When did that happen. OMG! He was the future of the franchise behind the plate. What did they get for him? Please tell me it w a pitching stud like that Pineda kid. He looks sturdy. First Cano now Montero? Cashman is a fool.

  99. blake December 18th, 2013 at 8:49 pm

    I was going to list my top 10 hair bands later tonight but now I’m hesitant

  100. jmills December 18th, 2013 at 8:50 pm

    Triple, seems both Iles and Leafs suck at the moment. I remember Mike Bossy’s rookie year in the ’78 quarters vs Toronto. Jimmy Jones really caught Bossy bad and layed him out, stretcher needed. Borje Salming on my side was already gone for the sprint given Lorne Hennings’ stick that got him in the eye. Lorne is a gentleman, and didn’t mean it. Anywho, Ian Turnbull had to take over backend chores for the Leafs, and man, did he do just that. Lanny MacDonald scored in overtime on Saturday night on the Island, to give the Leafs a 2-1 win and a 7 game series decision. ( I dreamed it the night before, my mother and sister didn’t believe me )

  101. luis December 18th, 2013 at 8:50 pm

    Whatever Ted….

    Good night all

  102. chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    Let’s all please move on to something far more productive.

    ——

    I guess you’re right…Tonight I’ve changed from a chicken to a banty rooster :)

  103. pkyankfan69 December 18th, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    Ted is clearly the list master… Do no question his lists… If you do, you will be subjected to deportation to Guantanmo.

  104. blake December 18th, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    @MLBNetworkRadio: Votto: Choo is extremely famous in Korea. That’s a lot for someone to live with. If he plays for the #Yankees he becomes super-dooper famous

    Well he could have

  105. chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    ‘Night Luis!

  106. I am Brett Godner December 18th, 2013 at 8:52 pm

    Check out listgraphs.com and lists-reference.com for some background and you’ll be fine.

  107. luis December 18th, 2013 at 8:53 pm

    blake December 18th, 2013 at 8:49 pm
    I was going to list my top 10 hair bands later tonight but now I’m hesitant

    ========================

    :lol: Please and don’t bring a list of your favorite Harry Potter characters either

  108. RadioKev December 18th, 2013 at 8:54 pm

    It’s pretty incredible how poignant that Jesus Montero trade is, to this day, and it’s been a bust.

    Somehow Cano signing to the Mariners doesn’t seem nearly as dramatic?

  109. luis December 18th, 2013 at 8:54 pm

    GN Chicken! Have a good one

  110. chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 8:54 pm

    Blake – listening to the game on the radio… Texas is hanging tougher than I thought they would… still time though

  111. bigdan22 December 18th, 2013 at 8:54 pm

    I’ve never run a blog in my entire life. I’ve never given out any advice on internet etiquette. I am certainly not an expert. But it would seem to me, if someone is acting uncivilly, the best thing to do is not to engage them. The best weapon against a bad chatter, is not to chat. Not only do they find it uniquely disturbing, but eventually they’ll go away. Which of course is the best outcome.

  112. RadioKev December 18th, 2013 at 8:55 pm

    I guess that’s when we lost our innocence. I’ll always remember where I was when Jesus Montero was traded.

    I think I’m joking…

  113. blake December 18th, 2013 at 8:55 pm

    Are their 10 Harry Potter characters?

    Harry, the girl, the red haired kid, Raul Ibanez, the big hairy guy, the dude in the black robe? Who else is there ?

  114. blake December 18th, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    RadioKev says:
    December 18, 2013 at 8:55 pm
    I guess that’s when we lost our innocence. I’ll always remember where I was when Jesus Montero was traded.

    I was in Target

  115. RadioKev December 18th, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    Yo Chad,

    What’s your favorite album of the year?

    I’m all about Modern Vampires of the City 8-)

  116. I am Brett Godner December 18th, 2013 at 8:58 pm

    My favorite album of all time is the Stooges Funhouse.

    Crap. That’s a list. A list of one but a list none the less.

  117. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 8:59 pm

    blake December 18th, 2013 at 8:55 pm

    Are their 10 Harry Potter characters?

    Harry, the girl, the red haired kid, Raul Ibanez, the big hairy guy, the dude in the black robe? Who else is there ?

    ——————

    Is there a disappointed emoticon I can use…?!

    #Dobby4Eva

  118. Against All Odds December 18th, 2013 at 8:59 pm

    Look, I am not insulting the guy in any way.

    ———————–

    “Why would you write about something you clearly know very little about?”

    “He demonstrates no knowledge of what he’s talking about at all”

  119. RadioKev December 18th, 2013 at 9:00 pm

    I am Brett Godner December 18th, 2013 at 8:58 pm
    My favorite album of all time is the Stooges Funhouse.

    Crap. That’s a list. A list of one but a list none the less.
    ——–

    That’s acceptable.

    Raw Power mix: Iggy’s or Bowie’s? Iggy’s was the first I heard, and Bowie’s original just sounds totally alien to me.

  120. luis December 18th, 2013 at 9:00 pm

    Are their 10 Harry Potter characters?

    =================

    If you add the stunts maybe…But I won’t list them…I don’t want to be “judged” by Judge Dredd

  121. bigdan22 December 18th, 2013 at 9:00 pm

    I think I’ve offered this before, I wish someone would do a prospect ranking that includes only those prospects that have spent significant time at AA or above. Such a ranking would be very informative because it would give the reader a real good idea of what young talent may be ready to help the major league club in the near future. It would also give everyone a clearer idea what actual minor league trade chips a team has.

    On the hypothetical Yankee list, it seems like Murphy would be No.1. I think Nuno would easily be in the top 5. Maybe Turley. Probably Ramirez.

  122. I am Brett Godner December 18th, 2013 at 9:00 pm

    Against All Odds December 18th, 2013 at 8:59 pm
    Look, I am not insulting the guy in any way.

    ———————–

    “Why would you write about something you clearly know very little about?”

    “He demonstrates no knowledge of what he’s talking about at all”

    ————————————–

    It’s very hard to read ‘tone’ on the internet.

  123. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 9:01 pm

    I was in Target

    ——————-

    I was at my friends making tacos. I spent 45 minutes trying to explain what was going on while also completely ignoring her.

  124. chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 9:01 pm

    Are their 10 Harry Potter characters?Harry, the girl, the red haired kid, Raul Ibanez, the big hairy guy, the dude in the black robe? Who else is there ?

    ———–

    Raul Ibanez :D !

  125. blake December 18th, 2013 at 9:02 pm

    I really know all the Harry potter characters….I just thought that would be funnier

  126. luis December 18th, 2013 at 9:03 pm

    Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 9:01 pm
    I was in Target

    ——————-

    I was at my friends making tacos. I spent 45 minutes trying to explain what was going on while also completely ignoring her.

    ========================

    I was in Whistler BC… Boy was I pissed!

  127. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 9:03 pm

    There are a many awesome Harry Potter characters, thankyouverymuch.

  128. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 9:03 pm

    I could make lists of just about anything but I fear they will be contested…

  129. Against All Odds December 18th, 2013 at 9:04 pm

    @ Godner lol

  130. blake December 18th, 2013 at 9:05 pm

    @MLBNetworkRadio: McGehee: “They all want to compare him to Darvish. But he’s more of a younger version of Kuroda… He’s got a lot of weapons.” #Tanaka

  131. Pat M. December 18th, 2013 at 9:05 pm

    Seems like this Ted Dude is the new Liberty Valance of the LoHud

  132. jmills December 18th, 2013 at 9:06 pm

    Just got a call from my audiophile ami, my power amp is reasonably fixed, yahoo!!! ( And another amp for back up I gave him ) – rush keep breaking things, red barchetta style )

  133. blake December 18th, 2013 at 9:06 pm

    Tar Heels need to only play good teams cause they can’t beat bad ones

  134. blake December 18th, 2013 at 9:07 pm

    Pat M. says:
    December 18, 2013 at 9:05 pm
    Seems like this Ted Dude is the new Liberty Valance of the LoHud

    Who is John Wayne ?

  135. luis December 18th, 2013 at 9:08 pm

    blake December 18th, 2013 at 9:07 pm
    Pat M. says:
    December 18, 2013 at 9:05 pm
    Seems like this Ted Dude is the new Liberty Valance of the LoHud

    Who is John Wayne ?

    =====================

    Nah! Trust me…This is Stallone’s version of Judge Dredd: I am the law!!

  136. chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 9:09 pm

    luis says:December 18, 2013 at 9:03 pmShame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 9:01 pmI was in Target——————-I was at my friends making tacos. I spent 45 minutes trying to explain what was going on while also completely ignoring her.========================I was in Whistler BC… Boy was I pissed!

    ——–

    I wasn’t on the blog at the time… I was eating a burgerat Hardees/Carls jr when I heard on the radio… I remember thinking “wow! What’s going on?”. Little did I know it would stop the rotation of the earth on its axis and (more importantly) fracture the blog :)

  137. bigdan22 December 18th, 2013 at 9:09 pm

    I’ve done some deals with Japanese businessmen. I’m certainly not an expert there either, but it seems like everything just takes forever. A twenty minute phone call lasts 4 hours. At this rate, Tanaka will be posted some time in July.

  138. Against All Odds December 18th, 2013 at 9:09 pm

    The Kuroda comp comes up a lot. If Tanaka can develop into that we’re talking about a a reliable starting pitcher going into his prime.

  139. Howler December 18th, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    jmills..don’t bring back bad memories

  140. I am Brett Godner December 18th, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    “Raw Power mix: Iggy’s or Bowie’s? Iggy’s was the first I heard, and Bowie’s original just sounds totally alien to me.”

    I think Bowie is nearly god-like (I am a proto-punk fanatic but I really love me some glam as well as some outlaw country when the tequila takes that weepy turn) but I prefer my stooges raw and fuzzy so give me Iggy’s.

  141. ac1 December 18th, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    Who cares about Choo anymore?
    The man turned down 140M and we got Beltran instead (someone who WANTED to play for us).
    I think Beltran is going to be HUGE for us.
    If I am the Yankees I offer that 7/140 to Tanaka and hope for the best.
    No way the Yankees are going to go over 7 years for a pitcher no matter how old he is.

  142. chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    Shame Spencer says:December 18, 2013 at 9:03 pmI could make lists of just about anything but I fear they will be contested…

    ——

    Carry on with the lists… invariably make me laugh

  143. luis December 18th, 2013 at 9:11 pm

    chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 9:09 pm
    luis says:December 18, 2013 at 9:03 pmShame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 9:01 pmI was in Target——————-I was at my friends making tacos. I spent 45 minutes trying to explain what was going on while also completely ignoring her.========================I was in Whistler BC… Boy was I pissed!

    ——–

    I wasn’t on the blog at the time… I was eating a burgerat Hardees/Carls jr when I heard on the radio… I remember thinking “wow! What’s going on?”. Little did I know it would stop the rotation of the earth on its axis and (more importantly) fracture the blog :)

    ==============================

    :lol: Only in Lohudville..

  144. Ted Nelson December 18th, 2013 at 9:12 pm

    Chad,

    While I certainly do not think it says anything positive about their system, I don’t think it actually says what you are trying to make it say. I really didn’t care to make this big of a deal out of it and I don’t think the Yankees farm system is great of anything. I just don’t think that the evidence supports the claim.

    As I said, the Cards and Diamondback both had two first rounders make their top 10s on BA. (BP hasn’t done NL.) Those are strong farm systems by all accounts. They didn’t have three first rounders.

    BA had the Cardinals’ system at #24 in baseball when they had about half the talent of their WS team as prospects. I enjoy reading their opinions, but there’s not much evidence that they are accurate.

  145. Chad Jennings December 18th, 2013 at 9:13 pm

    RadioKev December 18th, 2013 at 8:56 pm e

    Yo Chad,

    What’s your favorite album of the year?

    I’m all about Modern Vampires of the City 8-)

    I was actually thinking about that the other day — oddly enough, I’d been reading through some rankings of top albums of the year — and I really don’t have a single standout. I thought the Jason Isbell solo album was terrific. I really like a band called The Lonely Forest, and they put out a new album that was fun (but not necessarily great). I enjoyed it, though. The album I kept going back to is The National’s latest. I just loved that album. Don’t get me wrong, that Vampire Weekend album is incredible, but for whatever reason, they’re not a band that I find myself going back to over and over again. I think Modern Vampires is their best album — I liked it even more than the debut — but The National had more staying power with me this year.

  146. luis December 18th, 2013 at 9:13 pm

    Against All Odds December 18th, 2013 at 9:09 pm
    The Kuroda comp comes up a lot. If Tanaka can develop into that we’re talking about a a reliable starting pitcher going into his prime.

    =====================

    I think he will be better

  147. chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    Pat M. says:December 18, 2013 at 9:05 pmSeems like this Ted Dude is the new Liberty Valance of the LoHud

    ———

    Pat M – good to see you on… just thinking today I hadn’t seen you lately

  148. jmills December 18th, 2013 at 9:17 pm

    Geddy Lee was on ESPN, he rules apparently in this pick a team and go for it thing. He has sigend baseballs and great bottles of red in his basement.

  149. mick December 18th, 2013 at 9:18 pm

    so its 7 IF’s, 4 OF’s and 2 C’s

    nunez wells and ichiro have to go somewhere…

  150. RadioKev December 18th, 2013 at 9:18 pm

    Chad,

    Trouble Will Find Me is my second favorite of the year, I hear you. That album really surprised me. I went from indifference to trance like state with it.

  151. I am Brett Godner December 18th, 2013 at 9:19 pm

    If we get enough lists we can make a list of the lists. Meta-lists baby meta-lists.

  152. jmills December 18th, 2013 at 9:22 pm

    Howler, don’t worry, but your Isles went on to win 4 in a row les Canadienes style :D I remember Bob Nystrom sinking the hated Bobby Clarke Flyers in overtime.

  153. chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    How does the free throw shooter get his own rebound in crunch time? Inexcusable

  154. Against All Odds December 18th, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    luis December 18th, 2013 at 9:13 pm
    Against All Odds December 18th, 2013 at 9:09 pm
    The Kuroda comp comes up a lot. If Tanaka can develop into that we’re talking about a a reliable starting pitcher going into his prime.

    =====================

    I think he will be better

    =================

    Hopefully that’s the case :D

  155. chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    @brett godner – a list of lists? I like the way you think!

  156. I am Brett Godner December 18th, 2013 at 9:31 pm

    chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 9:28 pm
    @brett godner – a list of lists? I like the way you think!

    —————————————-

    My problem is too much education not enough skills. What did you in?

  157. jmills December 18th, 2013 at 9:31 pm

    I had a crush on Aimee Mann and her band, Till Tuesday ( she sings female vocals on Rush’s ” Time Stand Still ” ) I also had a crush on, Heather Nova. Lorrel’s ” Can’t stop falling ” gets me too. Love those Canadians! Natalie Imbruglia is not Canadian but deserves notice’ her song, ” Torn “, got me right away.

  158. pkyankfan69 December 18th, 2013 at 9:32 pm

    The new Vampire Weekend album is excellent… I’m a big MMJ fan so Jim James solo album is up there also… Countless others though

  159. BoJo December 18th, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    I’d be very interested in Chad’s Top 10 list.

    Chad–what are your top 10 favorite albums of 2013?

  160. Tom in N.J. December 18th, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    “Last Waltz” Era Emilou Harris

  161. BoJo December 18th, 2013 at 9:40 pm

    And please include a WAR rating and ranking for each album.

  162. chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    My problem is too much education not enough skills. What did you in?

    ———

    As for me, I have one or two skills… unfortunately social skills is not one of them :)

  163. MTU December 18th, 2013 at 9:42 pm

    Evening.

    Hope you all missed me while I sorted out my frickin’ network problems.

    So I guess we’re on Tanaka watch for now.

    All other SP held in suspended animation until a decision on his posting is made.

    ;)

  164. Against All Odds December 18th, 2013 at 9:43 pm

    Finally…MTU has come back to Lohud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    :D

  165. chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    BoJo says:December 18, 2013 at 9:40 pmAnd please include a WAR rating and ranking for each album.

    ——

    Cmon bojo! You know very well UZR and fWAR must be included to actually prove an albums worth!

  166. MTU December 18th, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    AAO-

    People make mistakes but it takes a computer to really eff things up.

    :)

  167. jmills December 18th, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    Evenin’, MTU, Alomar is the geatest second b-man of all time, what do ya’ have to convey about that? :D

  168. chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 9:48 pm

    Mike – welcome back! I’m glad a voice of reason has arrived to keep me in check :)

  169. BoJo December 18th, 2013 at 9:48 pm

    Ted Nelson December 18th, 2013 at 8:47 pm

    “Calling something an “opinion” doesn’t give someone an excuse to say anything that they want.”
    ===========
    And here I thought that was what the 1st amendment was all about.

    Whether it is a smart or dumb comment depends on the listeners POV. Hence FOX News.

  170. BoJo December 18th, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 9:44 pm
    BoJo says:December 18, 2013 at 9:40 pmAnd please include a WAR rating and ranking for each album.

    ——

    Cmon bojo! You know very well UZR and fWAR must be included to actually prove an albums worth!
    ————–
    UZR is so analog man…get with it!

  171. Wave Your Hat December 18th, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    Blake-

    First thing I thought was, “who is John Wayne?”

    Love it.

  172. jmills December 18th, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    BoJo, nice talking to you last night, Hornsby was great, no doubt.

  173. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    Chad’s top ten album list of 2013:

    1. Bangerz
    2. Bangerz
    3. Bangerz
    4. Bangerz
    5. Bangerz
    6. Bangerz
    7. Bangerz
    8. Bangerz
    9. Bangerz
    10. Bangerz

  174. blake December 18th, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    “Wave Your Hat says:
    December 18, 2013 at 9:50 pm
    Blake-

    First thing I thought was, “who is John Wayne?”

    Love it.”

    That’s a great movie….

  175. MTU December 18th, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    Mills-

    I thought RIB has proved conclusively that it was Hornsby.

    Other than that I don’t get drawn into those kinds of debates.

    It’s like watching a dog chase his tail.

    ;)

  176. BoJo December 18th, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    BoJo, nice talking to you last night, Hornsby was great, no doubt.

    Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
    Chad’s top ten album list of 2013:

    1. Bangerz
    2. Bangerz
    3. Bangerz
    4. Bangerz
    5. Bangerz
    6. Bangerz
    7. Bangerz
    8. Bangerz
    9. Bangerz
    10. Bangerz
    ====
    Are those albums or porn sites?

  177. BoJo December 18th, 2013 at 9:53 pm

    jmills December 18th, 2013 at 9:50 pm
    BoJo, nice talking to you last night, Hornsby was great, no doubt.
    ———–
    And Roberto Alomar remains the greatest 2B ever (in Canada)…followed by Aaron Hill (it’s a short list actually).

  178. MTU December 18th, 2013 at 9:54 pm

    Glenn-

    Thanks. It’s good to be back.

    I just hope my network doesn’t go all Exorcist on me again.

    ;)

  179. jmills December 18th, 2013 at 9:56 pm

    BoJo, sorry, I have no idea what you just said.

    MTU, I know it all comes down to useless arguments, but damn, Alomar was over the topps!

  180. jmills December 18th, 2013 at 9:59 pm

    Baseball is great when it comes down to #s that don’t really mean anything :D

  181. chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 9:59 pm

    Shame Spencer says:December 18, 2013 at 9:51 pmChad’s top ten album list of 2013:1. Bangerz2. Bangerz3. Bangerz4. Bangerz5. Bangerz6. Bangerz7. Bangerz8. Bangerz9. Bangerz10. Bangerz

    ——-

    I just realized I can’t name 10 albums from 2013… sad

  182. I am Brett Godner December 18th, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    “MTU, I know it all comes down to useless arguments, but damn, Alomar was over the topps!”

    I believe since was the greatest Canadian 2nd baseman he was over the Oh Pee Chee.

  183. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 10:02 pm

    I just realized I can’t name 10 albums from 2013… sad

    ——————-

    But can you name the most important one ten times…?

  184. BoJo December 18th, 2013 at 10:02 pm

    Just read the article link Chad provided.

    One thing I slightly disagree with. Josh Norris states that David Adams, Austin Romine, and Zoilo Almonte were total flops. The thing that frustrates me is that this team never gives their kids a second chance. I thought all three showed sparks of potential….I would have especially liked to have seen Adams get a shot at 2B this year.

    I have seen so many Yankee prospects go on to other teams and have solid careers. Its a shame this FO doesn’t have either the patience or the ability to judge talent or something to help these prospects prosper here.

  185. jmills December 18th, 2013 at 10:02 pm

    Ummmm, ” Rumours ” came out in ’76 or ’77.

  186. BoJo December 18th, 2013 at 10:06 pm

    jmills December 18th, 2013 at 10:02 pm
    Ummmm, ” Rumours ” came out in ’76 or ’77.
    ——–
    I guess rumours spread more slowly before Tweeter.

  187. jmills December 18th, 2013 at 10:06 pm

    I have lots of great o pee chee cards from the seventies, Munson, rookie Guidry etc. We only had a limited edtion of under 500 cards, so by ’79 I was ordering the complete Topps set from Duluth. Over 700 cards of course and it only cost 14.99 plus shipping.

  188. chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    Shame Spencer says:December 18, 2013 at 10:02 pmI just realized I can’t name 10 albums from 2013… sad——————-But can you name the most important one ten times…?

    ———–

    Hmmm. Styx-Paradise Theatre? Nope that was ’82 or so. Yes- 90215? Nope again – ’84. Mitch Albom? My Disney vacation photo album?

    Sorry… I’m hopeless :)

  189. BoJo December 18th, 2013 at 10:09 pm

    Twitter, not Tweeter….oops!

  190. jmills December 18th, 2013 at 10:10 pm

    Yes – 90125

  191. BoJo December 18th, 2013 at 10:11 pm

    I have been listening to several critics regarding their top 10 albums listing….on Sound Opinions and also Fresh Air…and frankly, have been very unimpressed. Will have to give listen to the ones Chad and others mentioned above.

  192. chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 10:12 pm

    jmills says:December 18, 2013 at 10:10 pmYes – 90125

    ——

    Sorry – dyslexia setting in :)

  193. jmills December 18th, 2013 at 10:12 pm

    Stanley, you are absolutely the best with your kids. I hate rollercoasters in effing Disney Land ! :)

  194. Against All Odds December 18th, 2013 at 10:12 pm

    BoJo December 18th, 2013 at 10:02 pm

    ——————

    Yea the hook with kids is a quick one. Now of course they shouldn’t get unlimited chances but the mLers have a tendency of looking over their shoulder when it comes to playing for this team.

  195. MTU December 18th, 2013 at 10:14 pm

    Chicken alert ——->

  196. BoJo December 18th, 2013 at 10:15 pm

    Against All Odds December 18th, 2013 at 10:12 pm

    I remember when Bobby Murcer and Bill Robinson first came up…They struggled but got time to work things out to go on to big league careers ( even though Robby only really took off after leaving NY). Young talent needs time sometimes to mature.

  197. chicken_stanley December 18th, 2013 at 10:16 pm

    jmills says:December 18, 2013 at 10:12 pmStanley, you are absolutely the best with your kids. I hate rollercoasters in effing Disney Land ! 

    ——-

    The pic you saw was Busch Gardens… a roller coasternamed Appollo’s Chariot. I was hanging onto the younger one cause he asked when we got seated “daddy, will you please cover my eyes?” :)

  198. jmills December 18th, 2013 at 10:18 pm

    BoJo, everybody has their own top ten, or what’s the point? Didnt Hornsby hit something like, .356? ( Remember that stat from my Sports Illustrated Legends of the Game boardgame )

  199. I am Brett Godner December 18th, 2013 at 10:18 pm

    Back in the day when baseball cards were actually traded by kids it was my goal to trade for every Reggie card. I had all the topps, donrus, fleer, and even the 3-d Kellogg’s cards. I stumbled on the Oh Pee Chee by accident. I had to go buy a few of those when I was older to complete the set. Damn Canadians and their slightly different cards.

  200. jmills December 18th, 2013 at 10:22 pm

    Stan, a long time ago, a girlfriend I loved insisted we go to Canada’s Wonderland to see the, Cranberries. I of course agreed. She loved rollercoasters, and I inherently knew I hated them, but would of course venture for her. The way to cope is to put your head down a bit, close your eyes, and you don’t feel a thing.

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