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Reconstructing the Yankees regulars

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 18, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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Based on the fact you’ve found your way to this blog, I’m assuming you know how to look up baseball information on the internet. Either that, or you’re my mother and you simply feel an obligation to read the stuff I write (thanks Mom). If you know how to look up baseball information on the internet, then I assume you’re familiar with Baseball Reference. And if you’re familiar with Baseball Reference, you might have noticed that the site lists team-by-team player statistics based on which players spent the most time at each position.

Here’s the Yankees individual statistics page.

Here’s what’s kind of amazing about it: That same page for 2014 might list a different Yankees regular at every single position. Think about that. The Yankees are in the middle of an almost total lineup reconstruction, with Brett Gardner being the only player who was a regular last season being projected as a regular next season (at a different position and a different spot in the order).

Brian McCannCATCHER
Last year’s regular: Chris Stewart
Next year’s projection: Brian McCann
The Yankees have traded Stewart to Pittsburgh, and signed McCann out of Atlanta. They didn’t necessarily intend to have Stewart as their regular catcher last season, and they made absolutely sure that he won’t be next season.

FIRST BASE
Last year’s regular: Lyle Overbay
Next year’s projection: Mark Teixiera
It was supposed to be Teixeira’s job last year, but there was that relatively minor issue of season-ending wrist surgery. No Teixeira forced the Yankees to turn to a guy who wasn’t even in camp until the very end of spring training. Ultimately, Overbay got 445 at-bats last season, his highest total since he left Toronto after the 2010 season.

SECOND BASELast year’s regular: Robinson Cano
Next year’s projection: Brian Roberts (I guess)
The Yankees have created a sort of mix-and-match situation at second base. While it’s hard to believe Roberts will be able to play enough to get enough at-bats to be considered the Yankees regular second baseman, I’m not sure there’s a better guess for the Yankees “regular second baseman” at this point. We know for certain it won’t be Cano.

THIRD BASE
Last year’s regular: Jayson Nix
Next year’s projection: Kelly Johnson (I guess)
Last year, Nix barely edged David Adams and Alex Rodriguez for the most innings spent at third base for the Yankees. As for next year, the position is a lot like second base in that it’s pretty up for grabs. Could be Johnson. Could be Rodriguez. Could be — I guess — Eduardo Nunez. Could be a guy like Mark Reynolds who’s not on the roster just yet. But with Nix a free agent, it seems safe to say it won’t be him. At least, it probably won’t be him.

SHORTSTOP
Last year’s regular: Eduardo Nunez
Next year’s projection: Derek Jeter
Like first base, the Yankees projected starter for next season is the same as their projected starter for last season. Problem is, the projection didn’t work out last season. With Jeter suffering multiple setbacks, shortstop was left open to Nunez, who’s now fallen to third on the depth chart behind Jeter and Brendan Ryan.

Vernon WellsLEFT FIELD
Last year’s regular: Vernon Wells
Next year’s projection: Brett Gardner
Although Alfonso Soriano swooped in late in the year to give the Yankees more than 400 innings in left field, it was still Wells who spent the most time at the position. It was supposed to be Curtis Granderson’s position, but he finished with the fourth-most time at the position. Things would have to go very wrong for Wells to be the regular left fielder again next season.

CENTER FIELD
Last year’s regular: Brett Gardner
Next year’s projection: Jacoby Ellsbury
No one came close to matching Gardner’s center field playing time last year, but now that Ellsbury has been signed to a seven-year deal, it seems inevitable that Gardner will slide back to left field (assuming he’s not shipped off in a trade). Gardner remains the most likely alternative in center.

RIGHT FIELD
Last year’s regular: Ichiro Suzuki
Next year’s projection: Carlos Beltran
If the Yankees end up trading Gardner, putting Soriano in left field, and making Beltran their regular DH, then there’s a chance Ichiro could once again be the team’s most commonly used right fielder. It’s not totally out of the question, but it’s certainly not in the cards as the team is currently constructed. Seems far more likely that Ichiro will be a little used fifth outfielder.

DESIGNATED HITTER
Last year’s regular: Travis Hafner
Next year’s projection: Alfonso Soriano
Even with the injury, Hafner still DHed in 77 games last season. Wells had the second-most for the Yankees with 22. The DH seems likely to see a lot of rotation again next season. I’ll go ahead and guess that Soriano will get the most at-bats based on the current roster, but I guess I wouldn’t be stunned if it were Beltran or even Rodriguez. I would, however, be stunned if it were Hafner.

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193 Responses to “Reconstructing the Yankees regulars”

  1. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 9:04 am

    McCann looks like Uncle Fester.

  2. blake December 18th, 2013 at 9:05 am

    “What’s healthy Nunez…?

    I’ll take Gimpy Arod.”

    I prefer neither

  3. Ys Guy December 18th, 2013 at 9:13 am

    if we had arod all season, plus nunez and youkilis, kelly johnson would probaby still end up playing the most games at 3b.

  4. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 9:13 am

    Well.. obviously. But we’re not getting anyone better at 3B. So in the reality of this Yankee team, I don’t care if the Yankees save money just for the sake of it, since it won’t help with the LT reset.

    I’d be all for playing Ghost Man at 3B, but he’d be hard to fit for a uniform.

  5. Ys Guy December 18th, 2013 at 9:16 am

    long drawn-out argument last night about whether seattle’s second baseman is above or below average.

    tonight we’ll be doing kc’s second baseman…

  6. Tackelberry December 18th, 2013 at 9:21 am

    They are keeping 3b warm for Eric Jagielo

  7. blake December 18th, 2013 at 9:21 am

    “Well.. obviously. But we’re not getting anyone better at 3B. So in the reality of this Yankee team, I don’t care if the Yankees save money just for the sake of it, since it won’t help with the LT reset.”

    I think they will try to make do with a Johnson/Baker type platoon at 3B initially and then see if Headley or Asdrubal shake loose at the trade deadline. 2B I don’t know…..it wouldn’t shock me if the Philips trade still happens at some point.

  8. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 9:24 am

    Why bother trading for Headley this year, though? I mean, I get that it depends on the cost but if I had to make a prediction right now it would be that Headley ends up having a good season going into FA and plans to hit the market.

    If it’s junk for Headley, sure, do it. But it will probably be a haul and if you get him mid year are you planning to pay him twice?

  9. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 9:25 am

    I think if they make a trade for an INF it’s gotta be someone under control for a bit… otherwise, you’re opening more holes to fill one and it’s only temporary because in 2015 your looking at another Swiss cheese line up.

  10. blake December 18th, 2013 at 9:26 am

    “They are keeping 3b warm for Eric Jagielo”

    I’m not sure he’s the the type of prospect you hold a spot for….I think he could be their long term answer but he may never amount to anything. Currently they have made the 3B situation better because they haven’t been able to I don’t think.

    At this moment in time I think they are thinking that Johnson and either Baker or Reynolds will platoon there and they are still considering option for 2B……It could be Roberts or they could find somebody better before March.

  11. Tackelberry December 18th, 2013 at 9:29 am

    I like Baker better than Reynolds.

  12. Chip December 18th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    Eric Jagiello is way too far away to project as anything at this point.

    Right now, talking about internal options at 3b you have Zealous Wheeler and Peter O’Brien in the high minors. Personally, I would give JR Murphy a shot there too. He’s played the position a little bit and I think his bat could hold up there.

  13. Chip December 18th, 2013 at 9:35 am

    I think Baker’s more likely than Reynolds because Reynolds doesn’t consider himself a back-up.

    If you look at the other teams that Heyman says are in on Reynolds (Twins, Angels, Rays) they can all offer him a greater chance of starting right out of spring training than the Yankees can.

    Baker, on the other hand, knows his role as a platoon player and accepts that. He’s also been more adept at it in his career. It’s an underrated skill to be able to sit on the bench for most of a game or most of a week and then come up and be effective when you get your shot.

  14. blake December 18th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    “Why bother trading for Headley this year, though? I mean, I get that it depends on the cost but if I had to make a prediction right now it would be that Headley ends up having a good season going into FA and plans to hit the market.”

    well to try and win the WS if they are in a position to go for it.

  15. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 9:38 am

    I like Murphy as a C, but if they don’t see any place for him there with McCann signed and Romine/Cervelli making perfectly acceptable BUCs, I’d give him a hard look at 3B as well.

  16. blake December 18th, 2013 at 9:40 am

    I like Baker better too….Reynolds doesn’t hit lefties like Baker does….he hits them ok and he probably hits RH pitching a little better than Baker but for the particular need I’d rather have the guy that mashes LHP and that’s Baker.

    Baker is like a good Loogy…..if he’s usually properly and pretty much only played vs LHP then he’s going to do well most likely.

    A Johnson/Baker platoon at either 3B or 2B would probably hit 20-25 homers and might OPS around .800 if we’re lucky…..that’s not bad.

  17. pkyankfan69 December 18th, 2013 at 9:40 am

    Is Baker a better defender than Reynolds?

  18. AAA December 18th, 2013 at 9:42 am

    Is Baker a better defender than Reynolds?

    =========================

    Not really, no.

  19. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 9:42 am

    well to try and win the WS if they are in a position to go for it.

    ————-

    If it looks like they’re in that situation, I guess.. but I don’t see it working out that way. That’s a stars aligning situation. Seems like a long shot.

    Headley would need to be having a bounce back year, increasing his trade value. We’d need to build a glut of big league talent in certain areas to acquire Headley and still remain competitive. Not sure where the surplus will be coming from… possibly the pitching and OF, but I’d imagine other teams could outbid the Yankees if Headley is available and playing well.

  20. blake December 18th, 2013 at 9:43 am

    “Is Baker a better defender than Reynolds?”

    I think it’s probably splitting hairs at 3B….neither are going to be very good there…..but unless they are going to sign Drew (as I’d like) then I don’t know what else can be done there.

    The Infield Defense is gonna be bad on the left side…..I don’t see much way around that unless they sign Drew.

  21. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    I’m not trying to crap all over your idea blake, but getting Headley last year would have made a lot more sense (if he had been available).

    This team doesn’t do a lot at the trade deadline… maybe it changes in 2014 but I doubt it. They’re annoying that way.

  22. blake December 18th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    you sign Drew then suddenly the infield D doesn’t look so bad and a lot of options and back up plans become available…..

  23. blake December 18th, 2013 at 9:46 am

    “I’m not trying to crap all over your idea blake, but getting Headley last year would have made a lot more sense (if he had been available).”

    sure but the Padres are in a bad spot with Headley….the didn’t trade him when his value was at it’s peak last winter and now they can’t sign him and they don’t want to sell low either. So what they will probably do is hold on him and then hope he has a big 1st half then try to move him if he won’t sign.

    He’s still not gonna bring a ton I wouldn’t think unless he really tears it up…..but he might bring more in July than he would now if he shows he’s healthy and productive again.

  24. AAA December 18th, 2013 at 9:48 am

    I’m not trying to crap all over your idea blake, but getting Headley last year would have made a lot more sense (if he had been available).

    =================================

    It would have, but they didn’t have the pieces to do so last year. Probably don’t this year either, especially if it gets competitive with other teams.

  25. Tackelberry December 18th, 2013 at 9:48 am

    you sign Drew then suddenly the infield D doesn’t look so bad and a lot of options and back up plans become available…..

    _____________________________________________________

    Does Drew play 3rd? He won’t come here to split time with Jeter at SS. Thats why he wouldn’t sign with Yanks last year, cause he thought he’d be Jeter’s backup.

  26. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 9:48 am

    He’s still not gonna bring a ton I wouldn’t think unless he really tears it up…..but he might bring more in July than he would now if he shows he’s healthy and productive again.

    —————-

    I agree, and that’s why I think it’s unlikely they can acquire him.

    ‘Not a ton’ for another team hurts less than it will for the Yankees. We just don’t have a lot of surpluses to deal from. Unless those surpluses emerge, it becomes hard to see where they can deal from to get Headley and be better by more than just a marginal amount.

  27. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    And I’ve said this already, but I’m pretty sure the Yanks made an offer to Drew and aren’t looking to revisit the terms presented.

    He’s gonna end up back in Boston for 2 years at $16-18 million.

  28. blake December 18th, 2013 at 9:52 am

    so finally watched the season finale of Homeland last night…..man what a bummer that show has become…..so depressing.

  29. AAA December 18th, 2013 at 9:52 am

    He’s gonna end up back in Boston for 2 years at $16-18 million.

    =========================

    I agree he goes back to Boston for 2 years, but the $$$$ will be higher. Think he was paid $10M last year. I’d think it would be more along the lines of 2/$24M

  30. austinmac December 18th, 2013 at 9:52 am

    I think it is very clear at this point the only other major expenditure they could make is Tanaka. They will not add Drew, Phillips or anyone else in my judgment. I wonder if they are going to do anything else for the pen? Likely, nothing good.

    I like Headley, but too costly in dollars and players. Maybe we can try for him if he does become a free agent. I agree Jagielo is about three levels too far down in the minors to start counting on him.

  31. blake December 18th, 2013 at 9:54 am

    “Does Drew play 3rd? He won’t come here to split time with Jeter at SS. Thats why he wouldn’t sign with Yanks last year, cause he thought he’d be Jeter’s backup.”

    as I’ve said before…..my guess is he just wants his money this year. Last year he was trying to re-establish his value so he needed to play SS to do that and he did……now all things equal I think he’d choose a place where he could play SS every day but if Boston is a lets say 2/20 and the Yanks will go to 3 or 4 years then I’m pretty sure he’ll take the bigger offer at this point in his career even if it means having to play a little 3B this year…..

  32. blake December 18th, 2013 at 9:55 am

    plus signing Drew away would hurt Boston……if they have Drew they can play Bogarts at 3B or even keep him in the minors for more seasoning…..without Drew then Bogaerts is the SS and Middlebrooks has to play 3B.

    Yanks should take that into consideration…..signing Drew helps the Yanks and hurts Boston….their favorite type deal

  33. AAA December 18th, 2013 at 9:56 am

    I think it is very clear at this point the only other major expenditure they could make is Tanaka.

    ===================================

    Sure seems that way.

  34. blake December 18th, 2013 at 9:57 am

    and as I’ve said if you bring Drew in then you have your 2015 SS and you also have your 2014 SS if Jeter can’t do it or if Jeter gets hurt……it just makes a lot of sense to me and I think it’d make the club a lot better and more flexible defensively.

    Sign Drew, Baker, Tanaka, and get some pen help and the Yanks are set….and maybe the best team in the league on paper.

  35. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 9:58 am

    AAA December 18th, 2013 at 9:52 am

    He’s gonna end up back in Boston for 2 years at $16-18 million.

    =========================

    I agree he goes back to Boston for 2 years, but the $$$$ will be higher. Think he was paid $10M last year. I’d think it would be more along the lines of 2/$24M

    —————–

    I was thinking more as well, but then the MLB Network guys got in my head… they seem to think he’ll get less than his QO, which I thought was absurd.

  36. blake December 18th, 2013 at 9:58 am

    “AAA December 18th, 2013 at 9:56 am
    I think it is very clear at this point the only other major expenditure they could make is Tanaka.”

    my question though is why? They cannot sign Tanaka and stay under 189 so if you’re planning to go over to chase him anyway then why not just go ahead and fill the rest of the holes? Again some of these holes like SS and 3B and 2B are going to be problems continually…..they will need players for those spots next year as well.

  37. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 10:01 am

    I agree Drew makes sense, especially on a short term deal. But I think they took the same approach with Drew that they did with Infante. They made an offer early and had no plans to move off of it. And if the deals are close, I don’t see Drew leaving Boston.

    I actually figured if a NY team signed Drew, it would be the Mets.

  38. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 10:04 am

    blake – Because they’re cutting payroll lol. They had us so focused on $189, they’ll now spin it like ‘look what we did for you! We didn’t make our budget goals because we wanted to compete for the fans!’

    They’ve played this really well from a PR perspective. Even if they suck, they can’t lose because they already saved a ton of money. They squeak into the playoffs? All the better!

  39. blake December 18th, 2013 at 10:05 am

    if Drew’s market is depressed then signing him now may prevent them from having to spend huge on Asdrubal or trade a lot for a SS in the future.

  40. austinmac December 18th, 2013 at 10:05 am

    Blake,

    I agree on Homeland. I won’t miss Brady and Carrie needs mental help. It is depressing.

  41. Your Name Here December 18th, 2013 at 10:06 am

    How about a WAR comparison between last year’s lineup and this year’s?

  42. blake December 18th, 2013 at 10:07 am

    “blake – Because they’re cutting payroll lol. They had us so focused on $189, they’ll now spin it like ‘look what we did for you! We didn’t make our budget goals because we wanted to compete for the fans!’

    They’ve played this really well from a PR perspective. Even if they suck, they can’t lose because they already saved a ton of money. They squeak into the playoffs? All the better!”"

    Yea I know…..but still…..if the market for Drew is 2 years then they should pounce on that. They aren’t gonna find a better SS than him for 2015 most liklely. A 3 year deal for him would solve a lot short term.

  43. blake December 18th, 2013 at 10:08 am

    mac,
    I’ve never seen a season of a TV show be so depressing…..Carrie is gonna get revenge on them all next year though somehow…..you could tell she was being fake nice at the end there.

  44. blake December 18th, 2013 at 10:10 am

    I would do this trade for Mike Trout

    http://www.baseballprospectus......F8.twitter

    10. The Yankees Gut Their Farm System, Rob the Mariners of Robinson Cano, Throw in a Skyscraper (but not two!) and Some Celebrities, and More
    The Yankees want Mike Trout. Everyone wants Mike Trout, but the Yankees are the Yankees so obviously they’re going to get him. If you took time out of your busy schedule to read the recently published Yankees Top 10 prospects list, you’ll quickly realize the Yankees don’t have much to offer for Trout on the field. But that won’t stop them. Why? [crowd:] Because they’re the Yankees!

    So let’s list. Here is a list of things the Yankees will trade for Mike Trout

    1. Gary Sanchez
    2. Michael Pineda

    They’ll also include their entire minor league system including players, concessions, grounds crews, and stadia, which will be disassembled and FedEx’d to Anaheim (some assembly required).

    Sanchez, Pineda, and all the minor leagues won’t get it done though. They’ll need to offer more. This is Mike Trout, after all. The Yankees will also trade Jacoby Ellsbury, who will be a mite surprised (“Hi Mr. Cashman, I’m really looking forward to my first spring WHAT??”). The Angels won’t want to pay his salary, so the Yankees will pay his salary. That won’t be enough though, so they’ll trade Robinson Cano. This will enrage the Mariners but there’s nothing the Mariners can do because this is the Yankees. The Yankees will also pay Cano’s salary (up to the $175 million, and not a penny more!).

    After that, it’s time to start talking about national landmarks. They’ll trade the Empire State Building OR the Chrysler Building, but not both. They’ll trade up to two lines of the New York subway (“Next stop, Disney’s Epcot Center!”), and they’ll trade any 10 celebrities who currently live in New York. Here is a list. Pick any 10. Seriously.

    They’ll also make the Angels a sandwich anytime they want one. Any time of day or night, doesn’t matter. Mayo? Sure, we’ll run to the store right away. No, we don’t have that kind of pickles but… fine. I’ll be right back.

    Also, Brian Cashman, master of shiatsu massage, will personally rub down the entire [redacted].

    So there’s your offer. Sanchez, Pineda, all the minor leagues, Ellsbury, Cano, the Chrysler Building OR the Empire State Building, two subway lines, 10 celebrities, a sandwich, and a personal massage from Brian Cashman. Who says no?? —Matthew Kory

  45. austinmac December 18th, 2013 at 10:12 am

    Blake,

    You know I want them to keep spending, but yesterday’s signings send the signal to me they are going cheap. I have advocated, as have you, Drew for this year and into the future. We have no SS for next year unless Jeter is re-born. Ryan does not count.

    They could get Drew for three years, I would guess, but I doubt they have talked to Boras about him for weeks.

    Shame said it correctly. they want to cut payroll while keeping fan interest. They think Tanaka could create that, but Garza and the rest do not. They might create wins, but that may be secondary to creating fan buzz.

  46. blake December 18th, 2013 at 10:12 am

    Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS 1m
    gutierrez has agreed to return to mariners, as @Enrique_Rojas1 reported. deal with incentives.

    Ackley was set to play CF for them….what does this mean now? I guess Gutierrez could play somewhere else or they could put Ackley on a corner but he doesn’t really profile offensively there.

  47. J. Alfred Prufrock December 18th, 2013 at 10:14 am

    May not be Jagielo, but Miguel Andujar, who turns out to be the 3B of the future. Kid took off last year, especially his nascent power. May be in SI this year; if so, that’s a must-see, based on reports.

  48. mick December 18th, 2013 at 10:14 am

    Yes or No Blog Poll:

    Are they going to make a sincere effort to get Tanaka or will they fake it and get their wish as they did with Cano?

  49. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    A 3 year deal for him would solve a lot short term.

    ————————

    Could be totally wrong but my guess was they gave Drew and Infante the same offer and were just waiting to see who accepted first (if either). 3/24 was what they offered Infante.

  50. AAA December 18th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    Yea I know…..but still…..if the market for Drew is 2 years then they should pounce on that. They aren’t gonna find a better SS than him for 2015 most liklely. A 3 year deal for him would solve a lot short term.

    =================================

    Spitballin’ here, but maybe it’s because he’s sick of the constant player development failures. Hal isn’t entirely stupid. He’s about to embark on his 2nd $400M plus shopping spree in 5 years because he knows he needs to. What he also needs is Cashman and his minions to start getting consistent contributions from the system. Maybe this is his way of saying “I’ll fill your most significant holes with big money players……..again, but we’re going less expensive on the less significant holes and you’re either going to start getting production from the system or some heads are going to roll.”

  51. mick December 18th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    So Roberts was the better fit over Infante?
    And why was that?
    We all know the answer.

  52. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 10:19 am

    You guys should give the first season of The Americans a try. It’s better than Homeland.

    The first season of Homeland was really good because it was focused on the impact of the war on terror in a small way.. it went way off course.

  53. austinmac December 18th, 2013 at 10:19 am

    JAP,

    I knew in 2012 the Yankees liked Andujar as he was playing in the GCL instead of the Dominican League at 17. Same for the catcher last year whose name currently escapes me. I agree he a player to watch. He is much young than Jagielo so it will be interesting to watch those two.

    You think Andujar at Staten Island and Jagielo at Charleston? Or Tampa for Jagielo?

  54. Chip December 18th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    I’m not sure that signing Drew hurts Boston that much. Bogarts looks really good and while Middlebrooks was up and down I think he’ll be fine there. Plus they would allocate those resources elsewhere.

  55. mick December 18th, 2013 at 10:22 am

    We better hope that Tex doesn’t tweak his wrist in ST and Jeter is healthy or we will have the same year as last.

  56. wanzies222 December 18th, 2013 at 10:22 am

    blake -

    A quick comment on Baker’s D: He is perceived by baseball people to be a very good defender, more so at 3B. His range at 2B is acceptable. He is not Reynolds by any stretch.

  57. Ys Guy December 18th, 2013 at 10:22 am

    im very pessimistic on tanaka coming to the yankees. the price is going to be crazy, $120M would not surprise me, and i dont see levine allowing cashman to go there.

    i expect a halfhearted effort with the yankees bowing out somewhat early.

    it might be the right move depending on the final price, but it will leave the 2014 team’s hopes resting on a cc comeback plus healthy and effective years from alot of question mark pitchers.

  58. blake December 18th, 2013 at 10:23 am

    sign Drew!

  59. Chip December 18th, 2013 at 10:23 am

    mick December 18th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    So Roberts was the better fit over Infante?
    And why was that?
    We all know the answer.
    ———————

    If they were both going to cost the same then Infante is a better choice than Roberts. Infante for 4 years however is not a better choice than Roberts for 1 year at a minimum contract.

    It doesn’t lock you into anything either now or in the future. Meaning if in July Seattle is more willing to engage in a deal for Dustin Ackley then the Yankees don’t have to worry about what they’re going to do with Infante and his 4 year deal for big money.

  60. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 10:23 am

    blake December 18th, 2013 at 10:12 am

    Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS 1m
    gutierrez has agreed to return to mariners, as @Enrique_Rojas1 reported. deal with incentives.

    Ackley was set to play CF for them….what does this mean now? I guess Gutierrez could play somewhere else or they could put Ackley on a corner but he doesn’t really profile offensively there.

    —————

    Definitely hard to tell what a one year deal for Gutierrez does… it has sounded like they want to retain Ackley, but I’d really love to get him. (And give Ichiro back to the M’s in the process.)

  61. Chip December 18th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    blake December 18th, 2013 at 10:23 am

    sign Drew!
    ————-

    Sign Diaz

  62. mick December 18th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    Why sign Drew with Astrubel available next year?

  63. blake December 18th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    “A quick comment on Baker’s D: He is perceived by baseball people to be a very good defender, more so at 3B. His range at 2B is acceptable. He is not Reynolds by any stretch.”

    I really haven’t see him play 3B enough to comment…..I do like him more than Reynolds just for his ability to hit LHP…..Reynolds really can’t play 3B at a big league level.

  64. Chip December 18th, 2013 at 10:25 am

    Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 10:23 am

    blake December 18th, 2013 at 10:12 am

    Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS 1m
    gutierrez has agreed to return to mariners, as @Enrique_Rojas1 reported. deal with incentives.

    Ackley was set to play CF for them….what does this mean now? I guess Gutierrez could play somewhere else or they could put Ackley on a corner but he doesn’t really profile offensively there.

    —————

    Definitely hard to tell what a one year deal for Gutierrez does… it has sounded like they want to retain Ackley, but I’d really love to get him. (And give Ichiro back to the M’s in the process.)
    ——————–

    I don’t think Gutierrez has too much of an impact in Seattle’s plans for the simple fact that he has to be healthy. They’re keeping him because the potential is there, but I don’t think they’re counting on him.

    My guess is that their OF alignment will be something like Almonte, Ackley, Saunders

  65. blake December 18th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    “I’m not sure that signing Drew hurts Boston that much. Bogarts looks really good and while Middlebrooks was up and down I think he’ll be fine there. Plus they would allocate those resources elsewhere.”

    I think it hurts them…..Middlebrooks may stink…..if they don’t sign Drew then he has to play more or less…..and is Boegarts ready to be the full time SS? Can he stay at SS long term?

  66. Chip December 18th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    Seattle’s projected lineup:

    Abe Almonte – LF
    Nick Franklin – SS
    Robinson Cano – 2b
    Corey Hart – 1b
    Kyle Seager – 3b
    LoMo – DH
    Saunders – RF
    Zunio – C
    Ackley – CF

  67. blake December 18th, 2013 at 10:28 am

    “Why sign Drew with Astrubel available next year?”

    well 1) Drew would help this year 2) Asdrubal isn’t that good 3) Asdrubal may cost more if Drew’s market is being depressed due to the draft pick attachment.

  68. blake December 18th, 2013 at 10:28 am

    the Mariners offense still sucks pretty bad

  69. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    Assuming it’s an either/or situation I’d rather go with Diaz than Drew.

  70. austinmac December 18th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    Shame,

    I will check it out. Have you seen Lilyhammer? Pretty funny.

  71. mick December 18th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    Simply put, they didn’t like Infante’s game and viewed him as nothing more than autility man.
    Roberets in his prime was the far superior player and is now another expiring contract.
    So it might be a little more than just wanting to meet or be close to the 189.

  72. DONNYBROOK December 18th, 2013 at 10:30 am

    With Roberts, Ryan, and Kelly Johnson contracted for 2014, adding Reynolds would most likely, (barring injury) spell the end of Nunez. If it was my call, I would have gone with Nunez over Roberts. More versatility defensively, and the speed factor as a pinch runner.

  73. DONNYBROOK December 18th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    Infante was ALL about that 4th year. END of story.

  74. Tackelberry December 18th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    Hope they are in on Diaz when he is eligible to sign. Same for Raciel Iglesias. Of note, Adonis Garcia hit his 7th home run yesterday in the Venezuela Winter League. Hope he gets a long look this Spring.

  75. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    I’m curious to see where Cruz ends up… the Rangers and M’s were both in on him, last I remember, with the O’s also being interested.

  76. mick December 18th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    So there is no insurance for DRob.
    At least we had Soriano in 2012.
    Strange…

  77. blake December 18th, 2013 at 10:34 am

    RHP lineup

    Garder LF
    Jeter SS
    Ellsbury CF
    Beltran RF
    McCann C
    Tex 1B
    Soriano DH
    Drew 3B
    Roberts 2B

    LHP lineup

    Ellsbury CF
    Jeter DH
    Beltran RF
    McCann C
    Tex 1B
    Soriano LF
    Baker 3B
    Drew SS
    Roberts 2B

    you can mix Johnson in there some

    Team is way better defensively on the infield than the current one.

  78. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    mac – You won’t regret it. Keri Russell is my girl crush. Super intense show.. bit of a slow burn but very suspenseful.

    Literally just started watching Lillyhammer. Awesome show!!!

  79. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 10:36 am

    Screw baseball, let’s talk about tv today.

    Favorite shows of all time. Go.

  80. Jerkface December 18th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    Homeland became bonkers in season 2 and I didnt even watch season 3 because of that. The Americans was a pretty good season 1. FX has good shows between that and Justified.

  81. blake December 18th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    MLB Network PR ?@MLBNetworkPR 41m
    Sheffield on what he would’ve done in Cano’s position: “I would’ve tried to do everything possible to make that [Yankee] contract work.

  82. Yankee Trader December 18th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    Seinfeld ranks up there

  83. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    Here’s my top 3. I’m pretty confident these are my picks, in no particular order: I Love Lucy, The Wire, The Sopranos.

    Breaking Bad probably makes my top five….. yeah. Yeah, my top 5 is: I Love Lucy, Breaking Bad, The Wire, The Sopranos, and …..hmmmm… who should I round this out with?

  84. Kelvin December 18th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    Jerkface,

    You should watch homeland season 3, if only for the ending. It was great.

  85. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    Sheff makes me laugh… he would have taken the money.

  86. AAA December 18th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Benoit to Padres done pending physical.

  87. DONNYBROOK December 18th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Agree.Tthe Yanks to this point are rolling the dice with Robertson at Closer. What I find remarkable is the Shrinking salary of Closers. No Closer getting remotely close to that Papelbon contract, which seems to mark the end of Big time $$$ for closers. This is because of the way bullpens are now overused, and the consistent mix-n-match that Mgrs are now employing. I believe the Yanks relying on Robertson is indicative of the shrinking role and importance of the Closer.

  88. blake December 18th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    “Homeland became bonkers in season 2 and I didnt even watch season 3 because of that. The Americans was a pretty good season 1. FX has good shows between that and Justified.”

    season 3 was a total drag…..

    “Favorite shows of all time. Go.”

    in no real order….Friends, Seinfeld, Andy Griffith, Lost, Nip/tuck (until they moved to LA), uhm…..Magnum PI,

  89. Yankee Trader December 18th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Shame
    You are including premium channels, like HBO?

    No soup for you! :)

  90. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 10:42 am

    JF – The first half of season 3 would have driven you insane. I know plausibility isn’t always a priority, but there were a ton of plot holes.

    I just got my hands on season one of Justified. Very excited, I’ve heard amazing things.

  91. blake December 18th, 2013 at 10:42 am

    why do the Padres want Benoit?

  92. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 10:43 am

    Trader – Actually some of my current favorite shows are on networks. I don’t watch tv on a schedule. Can’t do the week to week thing…. except for Scandal. I’m obsessed with Scandal lol. Only show I watch when it actually airs.

  93. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 10:43 am

    OMG Nip/Tuck!!!! Ridiculously fun show when it started.

  94. DONNYBROOK December 18th, 2013 at 10:43 am

    I would take “Game Of Thrones” over any of that tripe above. Not even close.

  95. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    My So Called Life might round out my top five.. I need to serve my generation somehow.

  96. Chip December 18th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    Sons of Anarchy and Justified are two of the best shows on television right now…and Blacklist is the best thing NBC has done in 15 years.

  97. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 10:45 am

    Good call from Donnybrook on GoT. Great acting on that one.

  98. Yankee Trader December 18th, 2013 at 10:45 am

    Andy Griffith?

    No Soup for you either!

  99. Chip December 18th, 2013 at 10:45 am

    blake December 18th, 2013 at 10:42 am

    why do the Padres want Benoit?
    ————–

    Not sure but maybe engage them in a trade for Houston Street?

  100. Chip December 18th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    Street is owed 7 million this year and has a 7 million club option for 2015 (no buyout)

  101. DONNYBROOK December 18th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    Just on the visual level alone, “Game Of Thrones” stands by itself. Then you get into story and acting, there is Nothing around even remotely close. Nothing.

  102. Kelvin December 18th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    Next season of Game of Thrones will be amazing. I can’t wait for March. House of Cards is an amazingly delicious show, for those who have Netflix.

  103. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    Anyone rank animation shows in their top 5? I gave South Park some consideration for mine, not gonna lie. Problem with shows like South Park and The Simpsons is there ends up being more filler in the entire body of work.

    Hmmm.. how to evaluate shows… do we do it by their top quality work or the overall product?

  104. ac1 December 18th, 2013 at 10:49 am

    Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS 7m
    benoit deal will be for close to $15M for 2 years with padres, once finalized. @JeffPassan reported agreement
    ___

    Less than I thought he would get.

  105. Jerkface December 18th, 2013 at 10:49 am

    Bob’s Burgers is the best animated show though.

  106. Chip December 18th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    Shame –

    If you like animation you should try Archer.

  107. Chip December 18th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    ac1 December 18th, 2013 at 10:49 am

    Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS 7m
    benoit deal will be for close to $15M for 2 years with padres, once finalized. @JeffPassan reported agreement
    ___

    Less than I thought he would get.
    —————–

    Less money per year but 2 years is a lot for his age.

    Price tags are out of control this winter.

  108. bbb51 December 18th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    So there’s your offer. Sanchez, Pineda, all the minor leagues, Ellsbury, Cano, the Chrysler Building OR the Empire State Building, two subway lines, 10 celebrities, a sandwich, and a personal massage from Brian Cashman. Who says no??

    The deal would be canceled after the Angels discover there is no mustard on the sandwich and Cashman denies the Angels their requested replacement condiment of choice.

  109. Yankee Trader December 18th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    For Drama
    Game of Thrones
    Breaking Bad
    The Sopranos

    For Comedy
    Seinfeld
    Two and a Half Men with Charley Harper

  110. Mike Ri December 18th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    Sheffield—-

    What a Beast !! loved watching him play

  111. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    I’ve never seen an episode of either Bob’s Burgers or Archer. Will get on that..

  112. blake December 18th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    Chris Cotillo ?@ChrisCotillo 4m
    #Angels seem close to deal with Raul Ibanez, according to a league source.

  113. blake December 18th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    trying to figure out why the Yanks are letting these relievers go at these prices.

  114. Jerkface December 18th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    trying to figure out why the Yanks are letting these relievers go at these prices.

    Because they are penny pinching

  115. DONNYBROOK December 18th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    My 1st step in evaluating a show is (1) Will I intentionally set time aside to watch it when it airs? No recording, or any of that BS. Just, is the show good enough to Mandate my time then and there?

  116. Yankee Trader December 18th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    Need to add

    Boardwalk Empire
    And Entourage

  117. AAA December 18th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    trying to figure out why the Yanks are letting these relievers go at these prices.

    ===============================

    $$$$

  118. Kelvin December 18th, 2013 at 10:54 am

    Chris Costillo seems to be breaking all the offseason moves lol. Who is that kid

  119. Chip December 18th, 2013 at 10:54 am

    MLB Traderumors suggests that Benoit will fill the void left by the Luke Gregerson deal and that Street will remain the closer. I guess that makes sense.

    I would still try to engage the Padres in a Street deal. Let him come over to set up for Robertson and serve as insurance in case D-Rob can’t handle the 9th inning.

    By the way – I don’t know how many of you watched MLB Network last night. They were talking about LH relief pitchers and Mitch Williams was asked who the best one in the game is. He could have said Chapman, could have said Jake McGee…chose Boone Logan.

  120. blake December 18th, 2013 at 10:54 am

    sadly it looks like the “we will only go over for Tanaka” theory is accurate.

  121. blake December 18th, 2013 at 10:55 am

    “$$$$”

    pretty good prices when the pen is as thin as it is……

  122. Yankee Trader December 18th, 2013 at 10:55 am

    Donny
    Then Game of Thrones is my #1. No phone calls, texting, waiting to watch it later, or idle chatter allowed! :)

  123. Kelvin December 18th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    I am hoping that in an ideal world, Yankees get Choo, trade gardner to reds for bailey or phillips/RP and then sign Tanaka.

    It is just odd to me, that Choo hasn’t signed yet. I preferred him to Jacoby at one point.

  124. blake December 18th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    “OMG Nip/Tuck!!!! Ridiculously fun show when it started.”

    so good for awhile….then they moved to Cali and it sucked.

  125. DONNYBROOK December 18th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    I watched “Breaking Bad” the first 2 seasons because I liked the plot of a Dying man attempting to garner $$$ for his family thru selling drugs. After the Lead discovered he was No longer dying, that character became Nothing more than another drug dealer. CLICK

  126. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    Veep is a great show…. and Arrested Development. You guys are slacking.

  127. Chip December 18th, 2013 at 10:57 am

    blake December 18th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    trying to figure out why the Yanks are letting these relievers go at these prices.
    ———————

    I think it’s for two reasons:

    1. They want to see if D-Rob can close before paying someone closer money
    2. The guys who are signing, Balfour, Benoit, Nathan, are guys who want to close.

  128. Chip December 18th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    blake December 18th, 2013 at 10:54 am

    sadly it looks like the “we will only go over for Tanaka” theory is accurate.
    ——————–

    My suggestion is that we at least wait until January 1 before declaring the offseason a dud.

  129. Yankee Trader December 18th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    Chip

    I listened to Mitch Williams. my understanding was he felt Logan was the best of the lefty free agents, then added the fastball elite pitchers-McGee and Chapman.

  130. DONNYBROOK December 18th, 2013 at 10:59 am

    I watch “Boardwalk Empire”, but it’s Not what it was. Too many characters leading to shallow story lines. Nuckie this season was nothing more than a Boss Tweed. Boring

  131. BoJo December 18th, 2013 at 11:00 am

    1. South Park
    2. Futurama
    3. Archer
    I love to laugh….and these shows crack me up

  132. DONNYBROOK December 18th, 2013 at 11:01 am

    I like Veep. Extremely realistic as to how people in that line of work eat each other at the drop of a hat.

  133. Yankee Trader December 18th, 2013 at 11:01 am

    Nip/Tuck

    Blake-

    Great episode, changing the drug dealers face thru cosmetic surgery, so that he looked like the FBI’s most wanted and gets nabbed in the airport

  134. bbb51 December 18th, 2013 at 11:02 am

    Just noticed that Brian Roberts played all of July, August and September of 2013, mostly at 2B. Who knows maybe he can be mostly healthy now.

    game log: http://www.baseball-reference......;year=2013

  135. blake December 18th, 2013 at 11:05 am

    Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS 2m
    benoit deal is $15.5M for 2 yrs. pending physical

    that’s very reasonable for him…..pretty much no good relief options left via free agency.

  136. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 11:06 am

    Donnybrook – He was always a bad guy. That’s what makes it great.

  137. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 11:07 am

    Trader – Ryan Murphy at his best is really good lol, I remember that episode.

  138. Yankee Trader December 18th, 2013 at 11:07 am

    Couple of earlier shows:

    The Twilight Zone
    Cheers
    I Love Lucy
    Taxi
    SNL-early seasons
    The Honeymooners
    The Fugitive

  139. DONNYBROOK December 18th, 2013 at 11:07 am

    Offensively, if a player is Not going to hit for Power, he needs to make offensive contributions through his speed on the bases. Roberts has neither power or speed, making him a Utility player.

  140. blake December 18th, 2013 at 11:07 am

    if the Yanks basically only sign Tanaka now they there working payroll should come in right around 200 million if Arod is suspended all season. Which is 30 million less than last year.

  141. blake December 18th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    I loved Fraiser too….I liked it better than Cheers

  142. bbb51 December 18th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    blake December 18th, 2013 at 11:05 am
    Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS 2m
    benoit deal is $15.5M for 2 yrs. pending physical

    that’s very reasonable for him…..pretty much no good relief options left via free agency.

    There is Jesse Crain, but the shoulder is a concern.

  143. pkyankfan69 December 18th, 2013 at 11:10 am

    Both of the netflix original shows were pretty awesome… House if Cards and Oranrge is the new black… Eastbound and Down season finale was aweskme as usual. Catching up on Boardwalk Empire and just staring to watch the Wire now.

    Hbo go rules

  144. Jerkface December 18th, 2013 at 11:11 am

    The Yankees need Kenny Powers in their bullpen

  145. DONNYBROOK December 18th, 2013 at 11:11 am

    I did Not view Cranston as a “bad guy” in the first 2 seasons. I originally viewed the Pilot due to Gilligan and the X-Files connection. The X-Files with it’s intermittent story line of Mulder and his search for his sister, and the Chemistry between The Leads, was absolutely Stunning. Nothing like it since on Free TV.

  146. Yankee Trader December 18th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Everyone – for a good laugh and some truth, ” All you need are friends to be happy.” Well- almost!,

    Watch Andy Kaufman -Latka

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?aut.....play%253D1

  147. blake December 18th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Mountain Monsters is pretty awesome

  148. blake December 18th, 2013 at 11:13 am

    I forgot the X files.

  149. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 11:13 am

    Yeah Netflix did a great job with those two shows.. I’m curious to see how their relationships with the shows play out, because from what I understand Netflix doesn’t own the right to them forever. Really great television. You’ll love The Wire. Omar’s comin’ yo.

  150. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 11:14 am

    DONNYBROOK December 18th, 2013 at 11:11 am

    I did Not view Cranston as a “bad guy” in the first 2 seasons.

    ————–

    But he really was, and that’s why it’s great.

  151. DONNYBROOK December 18th, 2013 at 11:14 am

    I’m looking forward to seeing the new Greg Kinnear show. My interest is tempered by the fact this show will be on Fox.

  152. Yankee Trader December 18th, 2013 at 11:16 am

    Have to go. Watch the video above and see you later.

    Have a great day

  153. wanzies222 December 18th, 2013 at 11:22 am

    FWIW, Benoit was more comfortable setting up (didn’t want to be a closer) and Balfour wasn’t going to pitch for the NYY (his decision).

  154. Teddyballgame13 December 18th, 2013 at 11:23 am

    My favorite TV shows:
    Drama- The Wire, Sopranos, Boardwalk Empire, Rescue Me, Lights Out (cancelled after 1 season!)
    Comedy- Entourage, Eastbound and Down, Seinfeld, It’s Always Sunny, The League, Chappelle’s Show

  155. Teddyballgame13 December 18th, 2013 at 11:26 am

    Probably have to throw South Park in there too….even after all these years they still give it to celebs pretty good. Their Kanye/Kardashian parody was epic

  156. blake December 18th, 2013 at 11:26 am

    Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS 4m
    ibanez has deal with angels. $2.75M plus incentives. @JeffFletcherOCR had the $, @ChrisCotillo said closing in.

  157. blake December 18th, 2013 at 11:27 am

    “FWIW, Benoit was more comfortable setting up (didn’t want to be a closer) and Balfour wasn’t going to pitch for the NYY (his decision).”

    then why didn’t we go after Benoit at 2/15?

  158. Against All Odds December 18th, 2013 at 11:28 am

    The Wire was a very good show dare I say great.

  159. AAA December 18th, 2013 at 11:30 am

    Just noticed that Brian Roberts played all of July, August and September of 2013, mostly at 2B. Who knows maybe he can be mostly healthy now.

    =========================

    .241/.307/.387 slash line in those games.

  160. mick December 18th, 2013 at 11:34 am

    then why didn’t we go after Benoit at 2/15?
    =================
    cuz they wanted him to close if necc.

  161. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 11:35 am

    Definitely dare to say it, AAO. Might top my list.

    South Park’s trapped in the closet episode was deliciously good.

    Decent deal for Ibanez and the Angels. They are a team that desperately needs bounce back performances from key guys.

  162. Ys Guy December 18th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    i think the plan for public consumption has been all along that they’d go over for cano and/or tanaka.

    i’m beginning to believe the real plan all along was to not sign either and drop the payroll by $40M.

    the mariners made the first part easy to slide by with their crazy offer to cano, and some other dumb owner is going to give them an excuse to bow out on tanaka.

    so they will end up with a sub $200M payroll while looking like they were just being sensible.

    sensible would have been to just not play the cano/tanaka game and fill the holes with other not as expensive options and come out with a payroll between $200m and $210M

    they probably would have been happier had the tanaka thing gone down maybe 2 weeks later than it is, so once they drop out of the bidding on tanaka there would have been nobody left to spend anything on, but in this scenario, they will probably just fall back on the 189 ‘benefits’

    this is just a garden variety payroll reduction of $40M or so.

    in reality it’s just a straight-up salary reduction and i now believe that was the pal

  163. Teddyballgame13 December 18th, 2013 at 11:37 am

    Favorite TV character of all-time?

    Mine would either be Johnny Drama (Entourage) or George Costanza

  164. Ys Guy December 18th, 2013 at 11:37 am

    sorry cut off the end, it was the plan all along.

  165. bbb51 December 18th, 2013 at 11:39 am

    blake December 18th, 2013 at 11:27 am
    “FWIW, Benoit was more comfortable setting up (didn’t want to be a closer) and Balfour wasn’t going to pitch for the NYY (his decision).”

    then why didn’t we go after Benoit at 2/15?

    Maybe they are comfortable with what they have. Maybe they have someone else in mind. It is obvious they are pinching pennies. I would not be surprised if they are bluffing on Tanaka.

  166. J. Alfred Prufrock December 18th, 2013 at 11:42 am

    austinmac December 18th, 2013 at 10:19 am

    JAP,

    I knew in 2012 the Yankees liked Andujar as he was playing in the GCL instead of the Dominican League at 17. Same for the catcher last year whose name currently escapes me. I agree he a player to watch. He is much young than Jagielo so it will be interesting to watch those two.

    You think Andujar at Staten Island and Jagielo at Charleston? Or Tampa for Jagielo?
    ///

    mac,

    Not sure, but I would guess Andujar would at least start at SI, unless they want to get him started earlier, and that Jags goes to Charleston. They could put Jags in Tampa if they think he’s advanced enough, that way Andujar could be with the Riverdogs, or start Jags in Charleston and then move him up quickly. Not sure what happens to Bichette or where Matt Duran figures in, not to mention people I’m not thinking of or don’t know about. For instance, Feliz was at 3B at Tampa before going down to hip problems, but I think there was an injury at 3B, & Refsnyder was the 2B.

    All I know is, come June, if Andujar is an hour-plus away, I’m there :)

  167. ac1 December 18th, 2013 at 11:42 am

    HAHAHAHA Cashman pinked down Wally after a question about the hold up in Beltran’s contract being finalized!

  168. ac1 December 18th, 2013 at 11:43 am

    punked, not pinked.

  169. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 11:44 am

    Ys.. that’s scary. Could be true. I hope they end up with Tanaka but if they don’t we’ll certainly be coming back around to that possibility.

    The negotiations for Tanaka are going to be the most epic thing we’ve seen in a while. It’s the equivalent of a Battle Royale.

  170. bbb51 December 18th, 2013 at 11:46 am

    AAA December 18th, 2013 at 11:30 am
    Just noticed that Brian Roberts played all of July, August and September of 2013, mostly at 2B. Who knows maybe he can be mostly healthy now.

    =========================

    .241/.307/.387 slash line in those games.

    Yeah, I didn’t say he was good, just that he was healthy.

    I’m trying to find some hope.

    OPS

    July .602
    August .705
    September .756

    RISP: .340 .413 .480 .893

    Men on: .341 .413 .473 .885

    High Lvrge: .346 .404 .481 .884
    Medium Lvrge: .287 .354 .513 .867
    Low Lvrge: .153 .213 .204 .417

    Last 14 days .310 .370 .571 .941

  171. Teddyballgame13 December 18th, 2013 at 11:46 am

    Mark Malusis definitely patterns himself after Mike Francesa….complete with pauses between points

  172. Ys Guy December 18th, 2013 at 11:50 am

    never trust those september stats, but they are encouraging.

  173. Bronxball December 18th, 2013 at 11:52 am

    cashman is an arrogant jerk. Wally was just doing his job. I am totally let down by the dumpster diving. I hope the fans start living in there budget like the yankees are.. They could of done a better job putting together a team if the were just gonna stop throwing money around..There moves look stupid now

  174. AAA December 18th, 2013 at 11:52 am

    HAHAHAHA Cashman pinked down Wally after a question about the hold up in Beltran’s contract being finalized!

    =========================

    Not a big fan of Matthews, but Cashman’s such a tool. This was actually a perfectly reasonable inquiry.

  175. Howler December 18th, 2013 at 11:53 am

    TV shows for me

    Northern Exposure
    Honeymooners
    Game of Thrones
    The Sopranos
    Brady Bunch…I had a thing for Alice ;) j/k it was really Aunt Bee
    Mr Ed…but they never show the episode where Ed and Carol run away together for a quickie marriage in Tijuana.

  176. J. Alfred Prufrock December 18th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    This is from the article pat posted in previous thread (for posters like poetkiosk, who calls Cano a “primadonna” without any basis for it.)

    “To allegations that Cano doesn’t hustle, Blakeley responds, “You know what that is? Garbage. You can quote that from me. Look at how many games he misses (just 14 total over the last seven years). The game is so easy to Robby, you think he’s lackadaisical. That’s a special thing of great players. Jeter for years made things look easy. There’s no lackadaisical in Robby.’’

    In fact, examples abound of how Cano worked to accelerate his development into the player he is today. Much credit has gone to a drill developed by Yankees hitting coach Kevin Long dubbed “The Home Run Drill.” It involves a protective fielding screen being placed over the outside half of home plate while pitches are tossed underhand to the hitter. The screen forces him to shorten his swing while maximizing his power. Cano is the acknowledged master.

    “He can go like 15 out of 20 just perfect and in the seats. It’s one of those swings where he gets it – and gets that explosion and gets that contact,’’ Long told the Newark Star-Ledger in 2010. “That’s the whole idea behind the drill: to stop forward movement, keep everything tight and be really explosive in your lower half.’’

    When Larry Bowa was hired as the Yankees third base and infield coach in 2005, his phone rang the next day. It was Cano, telling him he was ready to work on his defense and report early to spring training.

    “I’ve never had a player do that, in all my years as coach or manager,’’ Bowa told ESPN.

    When Cano had a down season in 2008, he asked Long to fly to the Dominican Republic over the winter to work with him on his hitting mechanics, as well as improving the mental part of the game. Cano hit .320 in 2009 and has finished in the top 10 in the MVP balloting every year since.

    “He never reacted negatively to wanting to work; it’s just that early on, he never had to,’’ said Masse, who gave Mariners GM Jack Zduriencik a glowing report on Cano. “I’ve always said this about Robinson Cano: He’s great about baseball. Great player, great person, great teammate. He’s a humble kid. If there’s a perfect position player to be a complement to Felix, it’s Robinson.”

  177. bbb51 December 18th, 2013 at 11:55 am

    Roberts also had very good fielding numbers in 2013, 5.1 UZR/150, .997 fld% (1 error in 301 chances).

  178. Shame Spencer December 18th, 2013 at 11:55 am

    What’d Cash say?

  179. blake December 18th, 2013 at 11:56 am

    I called GM Brian Cashman this morning to ask what was up and was somewhat surprised by his response: “There are terms to do, physicals to take, items to be worked out when you do a contract … There’s no scoop here. Nothing’s falling apart. I don’t have time to deal with stupid questions like this.”

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-yo.....th-beltran

  180. blake December 18th, 2013 at 11:56 am

    Cash is a jerk a lot of the time.

  181. Kelvin December 18th, 2013 at 11:57 am

    I like that Cash is a bit impulsive sometimes…lol

  182. Howler December 18th, 2013 at 11:58 am

    Maybe he’s just tired of dealing with Wallace Matthews too.

  183. bigdan22 December 18th, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    blake December 18th, 2013 at 11:56 am
    Cash is a jerk a lot of the time.

    ________

    More evidence that it’s actually Cash who’s “falling apart.” Really not excuse at all for that. Kind of strange though that Mathews would report that.

  184. Jerkface December 18th, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    @JeffPassan 1m

    Sources: Shin-Soo Choo turned down a seven-year, $140M contract from the Yankees, even after Jacoby Ellsbury signed

    WHAT NOOOOOOOOOO

  185. AAA December 18th, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    Maybe he’s just tired of dealing with Wallace Matthews too.

    ================================

    Part of his job.

  186. Chip December 18th, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    Unreal…

    I’m just seriously shocked at how many of you are convinced that the Yankees are nickel and diming their way through this winter.

    They have lost out on 1 free agent target – Robinson Cano – who signed a contract that no sane person thinks they should have matched.

    That they didn’t then panic and overpay for Omar Infante or Mark Ellis isn’t a sign of being cheap. Are Brian Roberts or Kelly Johnson going to replace Cano? Of course not. Are they better than Infante or Ellis? If all things were equal then I would say no they’re not. But all things aren’t equal and between them, Johnson and Roberts will still make less money than Ellis.

    After all the groaning that went on when they gave Soriano the contract they did, I’m shocked at how annoyed some of you are that they haven’t jumped into the deep end for relievers and shelled out $7, $8 or $10 mil a year for someone to set up for David Robertson.

    Some of you have already convinced yourself that the Yankees won’t spend on Tanaka when the fact is that he hasn’t even been made available yet. Or that they’re done spending money and the McCann, Ellsbury, Kuroda and Beltran signings were a smokescreen so that they could slash payroll…that’s a pretty expensive smokescreen if you ask me.

    The offseason started with a flurry of moves…the kind of big moves that you normally don’t see until right about this time. So the fact that there’s not a constant wave of big move after big move coming from the Yankees isn’t a sign of anything.

    You have to look at the market with a little objectivity:

    Starting Pitcher
    Tanaka’s not available yet.
    Signing Garza or Ubaldo before knowing if you can get Tanaka is silly

    Outfield
    Yankees don’t need anyone until/unless they decide to trade Gardner

    Infield
    Stephen Drew wants to play short stop. That means that before he’s ready to engage the Yankees about playing 2b or 3b he is going to make sure that there’s not a SS job out there right now that makes more sense for him.

    Bullpen
    We have seen one thing over and over again – you don’t need to spend big money to fill out your pen. The Red Sox took a flier on Uehara and he ended up supplanting both of Boston’s high priced closers. Trevor Rosenthal came out of no where to be the St. Louis closer.

    There is no replacement for Mariano Rivera – whether the Yankees signed Joe Nathan, Joaqim Benoit or Grant Balfour, none of those guys are replacing Rivera. You can build a bullpen in February or even March.

    In summary – relax.

  187. Kelvin December 18th, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    see!! I had a feeling Yankees wanted Choo…

  188. Ys Guy December 18th, 2013 at 12:10 pm

    i think levine has total control of the budget. cashman only gets to spend the money levine allows him to.

  189. bigdan22 December 18th, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    I’m pleased to see that some folks are buying into the theory the Yanks payroll plan for 2014 is about reduction and not about 189. That 189 is most likely a PR ploy to distract the fan base and media from the unpleasant side-effects of cutting payroll. And for the most part, fans and media have signed on. Hopefully that changes. As most of you know, this is a theory I’ve been sugesting for weeks.

    But you know what, I don’t think a significant cut in payroll is a bad idea at all. I’m not a fan of the 189 lie (it’s really a total lie, it is better to describe as a low probability collateral benefit. A goal that could be reached if everything goes exactly right). I said weeks ago that I think the most efficient budget for the Yanks is between 210-220. You still would save maybe 20MM+ over last year plus considerable luxury tax savings. The rate of the luxury tax is not that important since it’s a marginal rate. The key is not to be $50MM over the threshold. Think of it, if you can add $20-30MM to this current team, now you got a real contender. $210-$220 is the best of both worlds. Save significant money out of pocket and put a real team on the field to get you to the playoffs were you make mo money, mo money, mo money.

    The point is, for this constructed team, there’s a huge marginal benefit from around 180 to 215. But from 215 to 240 hardly any, in my opinion.

    The problem is I think they’ll miss on Tanaka. But this post is long enough.

  190. bigdan22 December 18th, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    Jerkface December 18th, 2013 at 12:01 pm
    @JeffPassan 1m

    Sources: Shin-Soo Choo turned down a seven-year, $140M contract from the Yankees, even after Jacoby Ellsbury signed

    WHAT NOOOOOOOOOO

    ———–

    So Beltran really wasn’t the first choice. Interesting. If true, you know Boras then must be focused on 8 years. Glad the Yanks didn’t go there.

  191. J. Alfred Prufrock December 18th, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    189 is most likely a PR ploy to distract the fan base and media from the unpleasant side-effects of cutting payroll. And for the most part, fans and media have signed on
    ///

    bigdan,

    What people say on internet boards doesn’t necessarily impact whether they will or will not spend their money.

    Particularly, people who don’t buy tickets, or even live in the metro-area, can neither hurt nor help Hal Steinbrenner’s cause.

    Harping on 189 wasn’t exactly generate enthusiasm at the box office for 2013. As I understand it, there was a little surge when Alex came back. People want to see winning baseball first, they go to see exciting players, second.

    If they win some games and their FAs do well (and Derek can stay on the field), they’ll draw more fans. We’ll see.

  192. J. Alfred Prufrock December 18th, 2013 at 12:29 pm

    *didn’t exactly generate enthusiasm. Haste makes waste :)

  193. beedogs December 18th, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    This team will provide neither winning baseball nor exciting players.

    81-83 is my prediction. It can’t get much worse.


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