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Beltran signing official (Marshall DFA to make room)

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 19, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The Yankees have officially announced their three-year deal with Carlos Beltran. To make room on the 40-man roster, pitcher Brett Marshall was designated for assignment. Beltran will be introduced at an 11 a.m. press conference tomorrow. Here’s the announcement from the team.

World Series Red Sox Cardinals BaseballThe New York Yankees today announced they have signed eight-time All-Star (2004-07, ’09, ’11-13) and three-time Gold Glove Award-winning (2006-08) outfielder Carlos Beltran to a three-year contract extending through the 2016 season.

Beltran, 36, owns a .283 (2,228-for-7,868) career batting average with 1,346 runs, 446 doubles, 358 home runs, 1,327RBI and 308 stolen bases in 2,064 games over 16 Major League seasons with Kansas City (1998-2004), Houston (2004), New York-NL (2005-11), San Francisco (2011) and St. Louis (2012-13). He ranks fourth among active players in career runs scored, trailing only Alex Rodriguez (1,919), Derek Jeter (1,876) and Albert Pujols (1,425). Beltran is the only player in Major League history to record four-or-more consecutive seasons with at least 100 runs scored, 20 home runs, 100RBI and 30 stolen bases, a feat he accomplished each season from 2001-04.

Among active switch-hitters, the two-time Silver Slugger Award winner (2006-07) ranks first in runs scored, hits and RBI and second in doubles and home runs. Beltran is the only switch-hitter in Baseball with at least 300 home runs and 300 stolen bases in his career.

In 2013, he batted .296 (164-for-554) with 79 runs, 30 doubles, 24 home runs and 84RBI in 145 games with St. Louis. In 17 postseason games for the National League-champion Cardinals, including his first career trip to the World Series, Beltran batted .268 (15-for-56) with three doubles, two home runs and 15RBI, most among 2013 playoff participants.

Beltran is a .333 (60-for-180) batter with 45 runs, 13 doubles, 16 home runs and 40RBI in 51 career playoff games. Among active players, he ranks fourth in postseason home runs, sixth in hits and seventh in RBI.

A native of Manati, Puerto Rico, Beltran was originally selected by Kansas City in the second round of the 1995 First-Year Player Draft. He won the American League Rookie of the Year Award with the Royals in 1999.

In a corresponding 40-man roster move, right-handed pitcher Brett Marshall was designated for assignment.

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176 Responses to “Beltran signing official (Marshall DFA to make room)”

  1. pkyankfan69 December 19th, 2013 at 1:50 pm

    ***BREAKING NEWS****

    Brain Boitano just announced that he is gay.

    In honor of this “huge shock”…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNJmfuEWR8w

  2. Chip December 19th, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    I’m going to bet he’s not wearing number 3 for the Yankees :-)

  3. Tackelberry December 19th, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    I beleive he said he will wear #36

  4. BA December 19th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    #36 So we all can remember how old he is.

  5. blake December 19th, 2013 at 2:08 pm

    @Joelsherman1: With Beltran official this is where #Yankees are for luxury tax http://t.co/Twh0TpJxsE

    The mislead the public tracker is back

  6. blake December 19th, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    @Joelsherman1: When add all that best guestimate for #Yankees is currently $209M-ish So without all A-Rod going away have no chance of making $189M

    Closer to 215-220 without Arod I think

  7. UnKnown December 19th, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    All this changing of the posting system to benefit the smaller market teams is pointless because they might be able to now spend what it takes to initiate contract talks with a player but won’t be able to match the big market teams in terms of an actual contract.

    Thus these players will be going to the larger markets anyway.

  8. Chip December 19th, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    I don’t care about the luxury tax. I just want A-Rod to go away.

  9. Jason Voorhees December 19th, 2013 at 2:17 pm

    pkyankfan69 December 19th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
    ***BREAKING NEWS****

    Brain Boitano just announced that he is gay.

    In honor of this “huge shock”…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNJmfuEWR8w
    ———————————————————————-

    I wonder what Brian Boitano would do about the Yankees right now.

    I know he’d make a plan, and he’d follow through.

  10. bbb51 December 19th, 2013 at 2:17 pm

    Gardner LF 30
    Ellsbury CF 30
    Beltran DH 37
    Teixeira 1B 34
    McCann C 30
    Soriano RF 38
    Roberts 2B 36
    Jeter SS 40
    Johnson 3B 32

    See any risk there? Nahhh…

  11. blake December 19th, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    Why would they release Marshall instead of just cutting Wells?

  12. bbb51 December 19th, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    blake December 19th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
    Why would they release Marshall instead of just cutting Wells?

    In case they trade Gardner?

  13. Chip December 19th, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    blake December 19th, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    Why would they release Marshall instead of just cutting Wells?
    ————–
    Because Wells might actually be on the final roster.

  14. blake December 19th, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    “In case they trade Gardner?”

    Wells is cooked either way

  15. mick December 19th, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    No….I can live any place I choose…Meaning, what I earn here is nothing I would really miss elsewhere…I have a responsability toward my family ( some are not as fortunate), to those I employ and toward the country that made possible the success I have.
    =================================
    So we won’t be seeing you for X-Mas?

  16. bigdan22 December 19th, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    What a mess this Tanaka thing is.

    Folks need to remember that this posting procedure is really an accommodation. Part of a friendship agreement between MLB and NPB. There is no law, international or otherwise, that prevents an individual from packing his bags and leaving his country to work for another employer. Of course, if he’s under contract in his home country he could be sued for breach under domestic law, but American baseball teams are under no obligation to pay Japanese baseball teams for the their players who choose to leave and play here. But as I said, in the interest of good relations between the two leagues, agreements regarding player movement have been entered into with the new $20MM posting procedure being the most recent. That agreement is a direct result of what MLB owners regarded as a massive error in the old posting procedure. While MLB owners believed compensation was justified, under no circumstances did they contemplate that posting fees would reach $50MM. Remember, it wasn’t that long ago that you could buy a MLB baseball team for around that much. Hence the change to $20MM. And for the above-mentioned reasons, Japanese teams had no choice but to accept the lower fee.

    Clearly Rakuten was contemplating the old money. That ain’t happening and will never happen again. So if Tanaka doesn’t get posted, will MLB throw a fit and toss out the whole posting process and bring on the Wild West? No, not at all. In fact, I think probably half of the MLB teams would be very very happy if Tanaka were never posted. They can’t afford him anyway. And the other half will be ok with executing the new procedures when Tanaka and others are posted. Most of the Japanese players who want to go to the US won’t draw the $20MM maximum release fee anyway.

    What I can’t understand is Rakuten. I guess it makes some sense that they should keep Tanaka one more year, try to win another championship, and then get the $20MM next year if there’s no downside to waiting. Except there is. While it’s probably a small chance he’ll get hurt and lose his US appeal, there’s still a chance. But it’s actually much more tangible than that. Apparently Rakuten plans on doubling his salary, incurring about $4MM more in payroll. They are not getting that back next year if they post him. So now the release fee is really $16MM, not $20MM. If you didn’t like 20, why would you like $16MM better? And when you look at this in terms of simply cash flow, paying Tanaka $8MM as opposed to releasing him for $20MM this year is a $28MM net hit.

    I had a nice conversation with Blake the other day about Cano. Blake said it made no sense for the Yanks not to trade Cano last year if they were certain they weren’t going to hit his number this year. I pointed out to Blake, when it comes to human relations, sometimes good sense has nothing to do with it. This seems like another example of that.

  17. pkyankfan69 December 19th, 2013 at 2:25 pm

    Brian Boitano would skate over to Japan and b*tch slap this Tachibana character with double Salchows until he agreed to post Tanaka.

    That’s what Brian Boitano do!

  18. bigdan22 December 19th, 2013 at 2:28 pm

    blake December 19th, 2013 at 2:12 pm
    @Joelsherman1: When add all that best guestimate for #Yankees is currently $209M-ish So without all A-Rod going away have no chance of making $189M

    Closer to 215-220 without Arod I think

    __________

    I agree, maybe he’s not counting Jeter’s $7MM

  19. mick December 19th, 2013 at 2:29 pm

    mills if youre out there listen to this beegee soundalike

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBlRcLfHVAk

  20. Chip December 19th, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    Blake,

    It’s possible – though highly unlikely, that the Yankees will keep Wells.

    If they get rid of Ichiro the bench could be Wells, Ryan, Cervelli, Baker/Nunez. The Yankees have four OF who have each got an injury history, while Wells might be cooked, he’s costing them nothing, has accepted his role as a backup, and, if pressed into service, has experience in all three spots plus Girardi showed he would use him in the INF as well.

  21. blake December 19th, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    I think Tanaka will ultimately still be posted

  22. Bronxball December 19th, 2013 at 2:34 pm

    ben francisco over wells .. IN A HEARTBEAT

  23. Patrick December 19th, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    I think Tanaka will ultimately still be posted

    I agree

  24. Bronxball December 19th, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    wells is done . cashman ego gets in the way of just cutting ties . cashman really needs to go.. every move he wanted no part of worked out great. both sorianos

  25. yanks61 December 19th, 2013 at 2:38 pm

    Chip December 19th, 2013 at 11:25 am
    On another topic entirely…
    Alex Rodriguez was suspended, he appealed and then his legal team sought remedy in Federal Court because they didn’t like the way things were shaping in the appeal.
    Now he doesn’t like the way things are shaping up in Federal Court and is looking to go to the Manhattan Supreme Court instead:
    http://nypost.com/2013/12/18/c…..ds-cousin/
    “MLB attorneys, in a separate filing, contended A-Rod’s lawsuit should be thrown out altogether, since the matter of his complaint is governed by baseball’s collective bargaining agreement.” Which is 100% correct.
    Alex is venue shopping and trying to wear MLB down – my guess is that it won’t work.

    ——————————————————————————————

    Chip, I’m not a lawyer and I don’t know how relevant this is to the case, however it’s interesting, I think, to note that there already has been a case in which MLB asked a federal court to set aside an arbitor’s decision – and MLB lost.

    After Peter Seitz ruled that Mc Nally and Messersmith were free agents in 1975, the U.S. District Court of Kansas City, in February, 1976, upheld Seitz’s ruling, pointing out that the courts were not in the business of undermining labor disputes settled by a formal process of arbitration.

    It may or may not be a precedent applicable to the Rodriguez case. But if it is, it pretty much seems to doom any attempt that AR’s lawyers may make with any federal courts.

  26. blake December 19th, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    I think it stills comes down to what Tanaka wants….the Eagles offered him more money to make him want to stay…..if they were going to force him to stay they wouldn’t have needed to do that.

    If he wants to come then they’ll post him and take the 20 million I think…..

  27. mick December 19th, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    So they wait on Arod to decide what else they can do?

  28. Irreverent Discourse December 19th, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    Wells/Ichiro/Nunez could all get cut at a moments notice between now and ST. It wouldn’t completely shock me to see all 3 gone before the end of the year.

    $189m is not an achievable goal this season. I think that trying to stay under $189m probably went out the window when Robbie left, if only because they need replace his production to save face with the fanbase.

    No matter who’s numbers you believe, they are way too close to $189m anyway to get through an entire season without being completely handcuffed during the season. I do think they will try to keep the payroll as low as possible to limit the 2014 penalty. Next year they should be able to be get under and reset… even with A-Rod’s likely return. I think there should be some legal-ish waves from the Yankees to have his AAV recalculated if he is suspended for a long time.

    The soft cap stays at $189m for the next 3 seasons… which is kind of nonsense and I don’t see how that got in the CBA like that. The rate that FA prices are inflating could cause serious problems in 2015/2016.

    Some form of young and controllable talent has to be acquired on this team. ASAP.

    I have bickered about the actual calculated numbers floating around, and I apologize for getting caught up in it because… what’s the point of it anyway? We’re arguing about a number that doesn’t even matter. None of these projected payroll numbers actually mean anything, only the number you are at when the final pitch of 2013 has been thrown. The Yankees lost $30mil in attendance this season… right? And if you believe their PR line of it being just “because of missing the playoffs”, you now know that making the playoffs (midseason at the trade deadline perhaps) is worth at least $30m to them.

  29. bbb51 December 19th, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    lake December 19th, 2013 at 2:08 pm
    @Joelsherman1: With Beltran official this is where #Yankees are for luxury tax http://t.co/Twh0TpJxsE

    The mislead the public tracker is back

    He has 172.322 in salary, plus mentions 11 for insurance/pension + 5 for in season minor league call-ups. That puts them at 188 and arbs, Roberts and Thornton, and the rest of the 40 man aren’t even listed. But it does include 27.5 for Arod.

  30. bbb51 December 19th, 2013 at 2:44 pm

    Bronxball December 19th, 2013 at 2:37 pm
    wells is done . cashman ego gets in the way of just cutting ties . cashman really needs to go.. every move he wanted no part of worked out great. both sorianos

    Got lucky with Rafael Soriano. First year not so good, second year got “lucky” that Mariano out almost the entire year allowing Soriano to close, perform well and opt out of the 3rd year.

  31. bigdan22 December 19th, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    http://nypost.com/2013/12/19/s.....r-yankees/

    Some nice comments about Roberts from Buck. Think what you might about Buck, he’s never been full of crap. He wouldn’t say this this stuff if he didn’t believe it.

  32. Irreverent Discourse December 19th, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    There are things about Japanese culture that we can’t possibly understand… and I think this $8m contract Tanaka is being offered is one of them. It is a huge sign of respect and that is something that actually matters to them.

    If Ratuken was smarter… they would spend anywhere up to the $20m to keep him there, money that they are going to get for posting him next season anyway.

  33. AAA December 19th, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    That puts them at 188 and arbs, Roberts and Thornton, and the rest of the 40 man aren’t even listed
    ==============================

    Right or wrong in his calculations, he has remained consistent in not putting any numbers in it until they are official. Roberts, Thornton and the arb guys aren’t official yet.

  34. hardwired7 December 19th, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    Dream scenario: Cashman finds someone willing to take Ichiro and the entire $6.5M off their hands.

    Invoke “in the spirit of Christmas” if you have to, whatever it takes.

  35. Tar December 19th, 2013 at 2:49 pm

    “luis, what makes you so different than Cano? I want to hear it.”

    Obviously I don’t speak for Luis but felt compelled to answer this anyway.

    Asking a question like this would be like asking What makes an American and someone from Australia different? Ot how about an Irishman and a Canadian ? Or…..

    Because people speak the same language or possibly come from the same descendants doesn’t make them the same.

    In other words a Mexican is not a Puerto Rican, or a Dominican is not a Venezuelan. ( or vice versa)

  36. Chip December 19th, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    Yanks61

    I’m not familiar with that case so thanks. It does seem to be spot on in this case which isn’t to say that what the courts ruled in 1975 has to be how they’ll rule in 2014.

    My instinct though is to say that the courts will side with MLB in this regard. That the suspension is an internal matter and that the CBA provided a venue for Alex to present his side and that he and his legal team opted to not fully participate in that process is his problem. In other words, it’s like going to the hospital with a giant gash in your arm, refusing medical treatment and then suing the doctor when your arm has to come off.

    What’s fascinating in a morbid sort of way is that Alex is acting like he knows he’s already lost – he’s appealing rulings that haven’t been made yet. He’s trying to overturn a suspension in Federal Court that Horowitz hasn’t ruled on and he’s trying to overturn the Federal Court telling him to go away in Manhattan Supreme Court before the Federal Court has ruled.

    As a whole, Alex can tell you all he wants about how confident he is in how things are playing out – but his legal team is certainly acting like a group that’s already lost.

  37. blake December 19th, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    “Right or wrong in his calculations, he has remained consistent in not putting any numbers in it until they are official. Roberts, Thornton and the arb guys aren’t official yet.”

    Yea but I really don’t get what purpose it serves if you’re not going to count everything …..it’s misleading

  38. Patrick December 19th, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    ID,

    Good post. I am hopeful that the Yankees come to the proper conclusion that the reason they are in the current position is a lack of player development and handing out long contracts to players in their 30′s.

    I think Hal somehow got it in his head that the Yankees can be a perennial playoff team AND stay under $189 million. Which is absolutely true IF the Yankees had any young talent to speak of.

    I think the Yankees have already learned their lesson regarding big contracts to aging players. However, that’s only one part of it, they really need to focus on player development.

    If they didn’t owe massive amounts of money to A-rod, Teixeira, Sabathia, etc they would have plenty of room to spend on better players. On the other hand, if they had done a better job developing players they would be able to fill in the spaces with cost controlled talent. Now imagine if they improve in both areas; a core of young players that don’t cost much and the payroll flexibility to sign any big free agent.

  39. bigdan22 December 19th, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    blake December 19th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
    I think it stills comes down to what Tanaka wants….the Eagles offered him more money to make him want to stay…..if they were going to force him to stay they wouldn’t have needed to do that.

    If he wants to come then they’ll post him and take the 20 million I think

    ________

    I believe part of this. I think if they were truly going to force him to stay, they wouldn’t have sweeten his deal. By offering to double is contract, I think they are applying a different type of pressure. They really want him to say “I want to stay”

    But I still don’t understand how this makes sense from a business prospective. I think Rakuten really wants somebody to step up with a solution and give them a lot more money. I just don’t know how that can happen though. Maybe they are trying to buy time.

  40. blake December 19th, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    “But I still don’t understand how this makes sense from a business prospective. I think Rakuten really wants somebody to step up with a solution and give them a lot more money. I just don’t know how that can happen though. Maybe they are trying to buy time.”

    Well maybe but really I think they are stalling hoping tanaka will decide to stay on his own……

  41. AAA December 19th, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    Yea but I really don’t get what purpose it serves if you’re not going to count everything …..it’s misleading

    ===============================

    It is a little, but he makes an effort to explain things in the narrative portion of what he’s been doing. It would work better if he merely included the projections for arbs, bennies, and not quite official signings in the numbers.

  42. blake December 19th, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    It is a little, but he makes an effort to explain things in the narrative portion of what he’s been doing. It would work better if he merely included the projections for arbs, bennies, and not quite official signings in the numbers.”

    Joe fan reads that though and thinks their payroll is at 172 with Arod….and that’s like 40 million short of reality. I get that’s it’s a “known only ” tracker……but to me that makes it a pretty useless tracker

  43. Patrick December 19th, 2013 at 3:00 pm

    Joe fan reads that though and thinks their payroll is at 172 with Arod….and that’s like 40 million short of reality. I get that’s it’s a “known only ” tracker……but to me that makes it a pretty useless tracker

    Agreed. There is no value added

  44. bbb51 December 19th, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    What’s the best payroll tracker out there?

  45. AAA December 19th, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    I think Hal somehow got it in his head that the Yankees can be a perennial playoff team AND stay under $189 million. Which is absolutely true IF the Yankees had any young talent to speak of.

    =====================================

    100% agree, but I don’t think Hal got there on his own. I think he was led to believe by his baseball people that this could be the case and that this belief was based on the ultimately incorrect premise that they would have young talent to speak of.

  46. Irreverent Discourse December 19th, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    I don’t think they could have known in advance that all of their young prospects would bust in such spectacular fashion.

    Everyone below the major league level should have been fired years ago. I don’t understand how they can be so bad at this with the amount of resources they have.

  47. yanks61 December 19th, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    Chip, like you (and quite a few others), I just want to see him gone.

    I’m sure, as some have pointed out, that he’d be an improvement at 3B on anybody the Yanks now have or will probably be able to add before opening day, at least until he fell apart – a month or two into the season, most likely. But even if he could go the whole season (a hugely improbably scenerio, IMO), he’s just an enormously unwelcome distraction and a moral and financial drag on the whole team.

    Though I wonder if Hal isn’t secretly rooting for him to suit up. He brings a circus with him whenever he plays and I suppose is therefore a pretty good bet to increase attendance even if the Yanks don’t make the PS :)

  48. AAA December 19th, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    Joe fan reads that though and thinks their payroll is at 172 with Arod….and that’s like 40 million short of reality. I get that’s it’s a “known only ” tracker……but to me that makes it a pretty useless tracker

    ===============================

    I think we’re half saying the same thing. I agree it would be better to just have all the numbers there, official, projected or otherwise.

  49. bigdan22 December 19th, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    yanks61 December 19th, 2013 at 2:38 pm
    Chip December 19th, 2013 at 11:25 am
    On another topic entirely…
    Alex Rodriguez was suspended, he appealed and then his legal team sought remedy in Federal Court because they didn’t like the way things were shaping in the appeal.
    Now he doesn’t like the way things are shaping up in Federal Court and is looking to go to the Manhattan Supreme Court instead:
    http://nypost.com/2013/12/18/c…..ds-cousin/
    “MLB attorneys, in a separate filing, contended A-Rod’s lawsuit should be thrown out altogether, since the matter of his complaint is governed by baseball’s collective bargaining agreement.” Which is 100% correct.
    Alex is venue shopping and trying to wear MLB down – my guess is that it won’t work.

    ——————————————————————————————

    Chip, I’m not a lawyer and I don’t know how relevant this is to the case, however it’s interesting, I think, to note that there already has been a case in which MLB asked a federal court to set aside an arbitor’s decision – and MLB lost.

    After Peter Seitz ruled that Mc Nally and Messersmith were free agents in 1975, the U.S. District Court of Kansas City, in February, 1976, upheld Seitz’s ruling, pointing out that the courts were not in the business of undermining labor disputes settled by a formal process of arbitration.

    It may or may not be a precedent applicable to the Rodriguez case. But if it is, it pretty much seems to doom any attempt that AR’s lawyers may make with any federal courts

    ————
    First off, these are two unrelated matters. Arod’s civil suit for tortious interference is going through traditional legal maneuverings common in cases like this it. We have a legal system that contains dual and sometimes concurrent jurisdiction. I believe Arod filed in state court, it was removed by MLB motion to federal, and Arod naturally is trying to remand it back to state court. MLB is concurrently filing a motion to dismiss for failure to state a claim. Once jurisdiction is decided, i.e., which court the case with stay in, then a judge will take up the motion to dismiss. If granted, Arod may be done, or may he have leave of the court to re-file. In short, this case is going to go on for a long long time.

    Nice info on one of the two most important legal decisions in the history of the game. The Seitz decision. I didn’t know that MLB went to court to try to vacate the arbitration decision. But the court’s decision to not set aside Seitz’s decision is consistent with age-old precedent that makes it very hard to get a court to effectively “over-rule” an arbitration decision. Nothing has changed in that regard since 1976.

    As an aside, bringing arbitration into the CBA was the work of Marvin Miller. He knew he had a better chance of voiding the reserve clause that way than by the courts who had given baseball an anti-trust exemption in the 1920s for some unknown reason and upheld it in the Flood case. Miller always was the smartest guy in the room.

  50. Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    yanks61 December 19th, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    Though I wonder if Hal isn’t secretly rooting for him to suit up. He brings a circus with him whenever he plays and I suppose is therefore a pretty good bet to increase attendance even if the Yanks don’t make the PS :)

    —-

    I only think A-Rod would be a circus for a short period of time. The first week or two, yes, it was crazy in Yankeeland. But it didn’t take long before the circus died and the focus was all baseball.

    There were many gripes from many LoHudders that the A-Rod circus was going to take the spotlight off Mo and his retirement tour. That obviously didn’t happen.

  51. chicken little December 19th, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    Hal was 100% right that the team should be a championship caliber team for under $189 million. why he still employs the people who didn’t develop any talent is beyond me. they are the reason why the payroll will be over $200 million again, and will be so with serious holes.

  52. yanks61 December 19th, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    I only think A-Rod would be a circus for a short period of time. The first week or two, yes, it was crazy in Yankeeland. But it didn’t take long before the circus died and the focus was all baseball.

    There were many gripes from many LoHudders that the A-Rod circus was going to take the spotlight off Mo and his retirement tour. That obviously didn’t happen.

    ———————————————————————————————

    Giuseppe, you’re probably right. But of course it would be just after the Ringlings Brothers Three Ring Circus shutdown that AR would go on the DL :)

  53. UpState December 19th, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    why he still employs the people who didn’t develop any talent is beyond me.
    =================================

    maybe some of the prospects were :

    A – un-developable ?

    B – injury derailed ?

  54. UpState December 19th, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    C – traded ?

    D – slower-developing ?

  55. MTU December 19th, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    Don’t understand why they cut a young Pitcher who still may have potential over a guy like Wells.

    Makes no sense to me at all.

  56. blake December 19th, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    @SpearsNBAYahoo: Lakers announce that Kobe Bryant has a fracture of the lateral tibial plateau in his left knee. He is expected to miss 6 weeks.

  57. Jerkface December 19th, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    Hi I saw this morning there was some talk about Tanaka being able to quit Japan and come to the Majors on his own or not. If there was no posting system agreed to, Tanaka would be well within his rights to retire from NPB and come be a free agent in MLB. The posting system was the direct result of Nomo and Soriano retiring from the NPB and coming to the majors where the NPB teams got no compensation for it. Because MLB is nice and recognizes that the NPB is important, they amended their working agreement to include the posting system. The basis of this is that teams would not sign players that retired from the NPB, would not try to sign amateurs drafted by the NPB, etc.

    Because MLB renewed the posting system until the end of the CBA, Tanaka cannot retire and come play. He could have done so if the posting system fell apart. The only stigma of that is he may have been blackballed by the NPB if he failed in the majors.

  58. MTU December 19th, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    Blake-

    Got a dose of Dickey’s today.

    Pulled pork and smoked sausage.

    You’ll be having yours before you know it.

    ;)

  59. MTU December 19th, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    Mop to the Vet.

    later.

  60. blake December 19th, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    JF,
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    MTU,
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  62. Jerkface December 19th, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    Yea, MLB doesn’t need an agreement, but I think they kind of care that the NPB survives as a league.

  63. blake December 19th, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    Jerkface says:
    December 19, 2013 at 4:12 pm
    Yea, MLB doesn’t need an agreement, but I think they kind of care that the NPB survives as a league.

    Of course….my only point was if there was no agreement. It seems like to me they will still post him I he wants to leave…..

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    (2) Andrea Bargnani throwing up a 3 with 15 seconds left, a new 24, and his team up by 2 points

    Anyone have any others that might fit into this category?

  66. mick December 19th, 2013 at 4:36 pm

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  67. mick December 19th, 2013 at 4:36 pm

    (1)Dale Berra getting tagged out at home plate 1 second after the runner in front of him was also tagged out at home or
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    Meacham.

  68. mick December 19th, 2013 at 4:39 pm

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  69. MG December 19th, 2013 at 4:40 pm

    The Knicks’ team basketball IQ seems to have dropped about 50 points since last season-with pretty much the same team (except for Jason Kidd) that’s hard to understand.

    If it drops anymore it will be down in the range occupied by their brilliant owner, Guitar Jimmy Dolan-the only reason Dolan isn’t the worst owner in sports is because of Jerry Jones and Donald Sterling.

  70. bigdan22 December 19th, 2013 at 4:40 pm

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  71. blake December 19th, 2013 at 4:44 pm

    bigdan22 says:
    December 19, 2013 at 4:40 pm
    What about the time out call? Wasn’t that Chris Webber? That was classic.

    I loved it

  72. blake December 19th, 2013 at 4:45 pm

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  73. UpState December 19th, 2013 at 4:47 pm

    MG December 19th, 2013 at 4:40 pm
    The Knicks’ team basketball IQ seems to have dropped about 50 points since last season-with pretty much the same team (except for Jason Kidd) that’s hard to understand.
    ==============================

    Jason Kidd:

    Currently ‘out of Place’.

    Should be ON the court – not NEXT to it.

    (2 big differences from last season)

  74. Tackelberry December 19th, 2013 at 5:08 pm

    MG December 19th, 2013 at 4:40 pm
    The Knicks’ team basketball IQ seems to have dropped about 50 points since last season-with pretty much the same team (except for Jason Kidd) that’s hard to understand.
    ________________________________________________________

    Hard to disagree with that after watching Bargnani toss up a 3 ppoint shot inexplicably with 11 seconds left and the Knicks just granted a new 24 sec.

  75. UpState December 19th, 2013 at 5:12 pm

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  76. DaSaint007 December 19th, 2013 at 5:19 pm

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    I loved it

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    We’ll never see anything like the Fab Five again.

  78. MTU December 19th, 2013 at 5:23 pm

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  79. blake December 19th, 2013 at 5:26 pm

    “We’ll never see anything like the Fab Five again.”

    Lots of teams have not won championships :)

  80. chicken little December 19th, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    Real smart of the Lakers to give Kobe that 2 year extension.

  81. blake December 19th, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    MTU says:
    December 19, 2013 at 5:23 pm
    Must suck for Garza, etc. being held hostage to this Tanaka song and dance.

    Yea but if he doesn’t post it’ll probably mean more money for him ….there is a price where Id want him…..just think will probably get more than that number

  82. MTU December 19th, 2013 at 5:32 pm

    Blake-

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    They are not going to be able to extend him.

    He wants to test the waters.

    So his value to them is as high as they’re gonna get right now.

    If they move him at the TD they’ll get less and they surely can’t just lose him for a daft pick.

    That would be like the Yankees. Nobody is that dumb.

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  84. blake December 19th, 2013 at 5:34 pm

    MTU,
    Well the reds are a contending club so unless they can get better by trading Bailey they aren’t gonna do it.

  85. UpState December 19th, 2013 at 5:38 pm

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