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Video: Yankees introduce Carlos Beltran

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I have a lot more to come from today’s Carlos Beltran press conference — some of it about Beltran, and some about other potential offseason activity — but here is Carlos himself to get things started.

Video by Vincent Z. Mercogliano/The Journal News

 
 

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107 Responses to “Video: Yankees introduce Carlos Beltran”

  1. Jerkface December 20th, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    In the end the small market teams would rather have more money susceptible to the luxury tax than actually want to sign these players. They don’t want to pay the freight for IFAs, they just want to make sure the teams that do pay tax.

  2. Jerkface December 20th, 2013 at 1:28 pm

    One must also consider that Tanaka and Rakuten are not exactly sitting at home. For one its the holiday season so shopping bonanza, they won the Japan series so there is a lot of publicity circuit stuff, and Tanaka was already popular on the variety shows in Japan and must be making more appearances coming off his great season.

    Its not like ‘Do we post Tanaka’ is the #1 only thing going on in their lives.

  3. blake December 20th, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    “In the end the small market teams would rather have more money susceptible to the luxury tax than actually want to sign these players. They don’t want to pay the freight for IFAs, they just want to make sure the teams that do pay tax.”

    that’s probably true and the real reason but they sold it like all these small market teams wanted to be able to play in the sandbox too…..

  4. blake December 20th, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    if he is posted the #1 competition seems to be Texas I would think…..the Dodgers could be as well but they just don’t need him as much as the Yankees and Rangers do.

  5. Irreverent Discourse December 20th, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    MLB always sells things to “help out the small market teams” and then the decisions they make never end up actually doing that. It’s called PR.

  6. blake December 20th, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    would Tanaka want to pitch in the same rotation as Darvish or would he want to be somewhere else so as to not be compared to him and make his own way? Obviously money is the biggest factor most of the time but if everyone is close on the money stuff like that could decide it.

  7. blake December 20th, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    “MLB always sells things to “help out the small market teams” and then the decisions they make never end up actually doing that. It’s called PR.”

    tons of decicision they have made help the small markets…..almost every one of them does. This posting thing is no different…..the big market teams will have a lot more of Tanaka’s money count towards the luxury tax now and as JF said that was probably the actual goal of the new agreement

  8. blake December 20th, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    CJ Nitkowski ?@CJNitkowski 4m
    Heard NYY/Choo agreed at 7/140. Then Boras asked to make it $143, $1M over Carl Crawford. Angered NYY, agreed with Beltran instead.

  9. blake December 20th, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    Yanks have a good relationship with Boras….I can’t see them getting angry enough over 3 million bucks that they’d just call the whole thing off.

  10. Irreverent Discourse December 20th, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    The Rangers have a lot of SP on their roster to be getting into a bidding war with anyone over Tanaka. Especially after already “winning the lotto” with Darvish… doubling down on another $100mil unknown is probably not in their plans.

    I can see that people keep “saying” that they’ll be in on Tanaka… I just don’t understand why they would be.

    Holland/Darvish/Perez/Harrison/Ogando. Feliz hiding in the background somewhere… why are they going to spend in excess of $100mil on a pitcher?

    They need to replace or resign Cruz. Their lineup is a much larger concern I think.

  11. UpState December 20th, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    blake December 20th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
    wallace matthews ?@ESPNNYYankees 2m
    Top stats to know: Carlos Beltran http://espn.go.com/blog/new-yo…..os-beltran

    ==========================

    Ground ball charts…nice.

    Beltran’s 2013 FlyBall charts with overlay to NYS ….really interesting !!!

    (available anywhere ?)

    repost

  12. blake December 20th, 2013 at 1:38 pm

    “The Rangers have a lot of SP on their roster to be getting into a bidding war with anyone over Tanaka. Especially after already “winning the lotto” with Darvish… doubling down on another $100mil unknown is probably not in their plans.”

    Well Perez isn’t proven, Ogando can’t really start, and Harrison is coming off injury. They have reportedly done tons of background work on Tanaka.

  13. blake December 20th, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    I think Texas either signs Tanaka or Choo…..of course they were in on everybody last winter and came away with nobody.

  14. Jerkface December 20th, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    The Rangers and Dodgers are probably the two teams with the most scouts in the NPB. I know that Daniels himself saw like half of Darvish’s starts live in Japan before he was posted and I always hear about Dodgers/Rangers scouts at the games.

  15. blake December 20th, 2013 at 1:41 pm

    The Dodgers just don’t really need pitching that bad though…..I mean they could sign him if they wanted…..

  16. Jerkface December 20th, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    I’m just saying those 2 teams are the ones with the largest presence there.

  17. Irreverent Discourse December 20th, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    Based on http://katron.org/projects/baseball/hit-location/ Beltran could stand to gain 5-6HR playing all his home games in Yankee Stadium.

  18. Jerkface December 20th, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    @npbtracker 46s

    Nikkan Sports: Rakuten is going to acquire Kevin Youklis

    What a twist

  19. blake December 20th, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    I thought Youkilis wanted to play closer to his home in Cali! Nobody closer to his home wanted him

  20. UpState December 20th, 2013 at 1:50 pm

    Irreverent Discourse December 20th, 2013 at 1:43 pm
    Based on http://katron.org/projects/baseball/hit-location/ Beltran could stand to gain 5-6HR playing all his home games in Yankee Stadium.
    ===============
    ID :

    Great website !
    What I was looking for….
    Thank you !

  21. Jerkface December 20th, 2013 at 1:50 pm

    Remember that time Cashman paid him 12 million dollars.

  22. blake December 20th, 2013 at 1:50 pm

    bhahhhhahaha

  23. brianlopez22 December 20th, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    JF – haha.

  24. Irreverent Discourse December 20th, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    The Rangers/Dodgers do certainly seem to want everyone to know they have always the most scouts looking at NPB players. I don’t see this as a special situation for Tanaka, just business as usual.

    They just gave Martin Perez an extension didn’t they? and Ogando can pitch just fine when healthy. I just don’t think they are going to spend $100m+ to shore that up when their biggest need is obviously an OF. Much more likely they sign Choo and then Garza or someone similar. It’s a much bigger upgrade for them to put Choo in their outfield than it would be to put Tanaka in their rotation.

  25. Irreverent Discourse December 20th, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    Maybe Youkilis is just trying to get his beard to glow by moving to Japan.

  26. joeman December 20th, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    blake December 20th, 2013 at 1:48 pm
    I thought Youkilis wanted to play closer to his home in Cali! Nobody closer to his home wanted him
    ———————————–
    anywhere but here

  27. bbb51 December 20th, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    I think Rakuten is dragging out the Tanaka thing longer than necessary, even being prudent.

    The owner already said he would post Tanaka if that’s what he wanted (and that was recent).

    Tanaka already said he wants to play in MLB.

    It takes about 5 seconds to say “thanks, but no thanks” to the 8 mil offer.

    Instead this is like

    “Are you sure?”

    “Are you really sure?”

    “Are you really really sure?”

    “Are you really really really sure?”

    “Perhaps we should think about this some more over tea…”

    And yeah, I do think some of it is posturing because they are upset they will only get a large amount of money instead of a ridiculous and unfair to the player amount of money.

  28. pkyankfan69 December 20th, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    Youk should just retire and mooch off Tom Brady’s sister who can mooch off Tom Brady.

  29. blake December 20th, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    Perez only has 1 year of service time…..he’s got like a 4/12.5 deal and then gets into arbitration later on…he’s no sure thing in the rotation was my point….and Ogando can’t stay healthy starting or hasn’t been able to thus far.

    Choo makes a lot of sense for them sure…..

  30. blake December 20th, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    they just signed him because they think he looks like bigfoot

  31. Irreverent Discourse December 20th, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    blake – They also have Feliz somewhere between the bullpen and the mound.

  32. blake December 20th, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    Feliz will be in the pen I’m almost sure…..

  33. pkyankfan69 December 20th, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    Feliz is on his way to becoming Joba 2.0… He just needs to gain 200lbs and break his ankle on a trampoline.

  34. Chip December 20th, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    The Yankees need to do nothing right now.

    They can’t speed up the process of the Golden Eagles deciding if they’re going to post Tanaka, they shouldn’t rush to jump into bed with any of what’s left on the market.

    That’s not to say they don’t have holes to fill, they clearly do. But, much as we were all on Cashman for slow playing the winter the last two years, there needs to be a balance. There is no one on the board that you look at and say “gotta have this guy” and so it’s time to sit back and evaluate the options a bit more.

  35. Chip December 20th, 2013 at 2:16 pm

    I didn’t see – what number did Beltran go with?

  36. blake December 20th, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS 14m
    Troy patton gets 25 game ban for amphetamines. #orioles

  37. blake December 20th, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    Yankeesource ?@YankeeSource 2m
    Kevin Youkilis will be filling some pretty big shoes. Casey McGehee had a monster season for the Eagles. #ThingsINeverThoughtIWouldSay

  38. Chip December 20th, 2013 at 2:25 pm

    The Youk signing shows that some players will go a long way to remain starters rather than accept bench roles.

    That’s why I think Ichiro is more likely to go from the Yankees than Wells.

  39. Patrick December 20th, 2013 at 2:34 pm

    Via Ken Rosenthal: The players’ union expects Brett Gardner‘s salary for next season to be “considerably higher” than the $4M projected by Matt Swartz. Rosenthal notes Michael Bourn, a more prolific base-stealer who had a lower career OBP and SLG than Gardner, earned $6.845M in his final trip through arbitration two years ago.

    It would be really hilarious if the Yankees come in at $190 million payroll due to things like above.

  40. Chip December 20th, 2013 at 2:40 pm

    Patrick December 20th, 2013 at 2:34 pm

    Via Ken Rosenthal: The players’ union expects Brett Gardner‘s salary for next season to be “considerably higher” than the $4M projected by Matt Swartz. Rosenthal notes Michael Bourn, a more prolific base-stealer who had a lower career OBP and SLG than Gardner, earned $6.845M in his final trip through arbitration two years ago.

    It would be really hilarious if the Yankees come in at $190 million payroll due to things like above.
    ——————–

    In his column today, Sherman quotes a “Yankee Executive” who says that the team is either going to be under 189 or way over…there won’t be an in between. If they feel like they’re going to be over 189 they’re going to just throw all in.

  41. Patrick December 20th, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    In his column today, Sherman quotes a “Yankee Executive” who says that the team is either going to be under 189 or way over…there won’t be an in between. If they feel like they’re going to be over 189 they’re going to just throw all in.

    We’ll see…

  42. Chip December 20th, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    The Yankees and the Samsung Lions of the Korea Baseball Organization are nearing a deal that would send infielder Yamaico Navarro to KBO, tweets Enrique Rojas of ESPN Deportes. The Yanks inked Navarro to a minor league deal a month ago. Navarro is a career .206/.258/.267 Major League hitter.

  43. Chip December 20th, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    Patrick December 20th, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    In his column today, Sherman quotes a “Yankee Executive” who says that the team is either going to be under 189 or way over…there won’t be an in between. If they feel like they’re going to be over 189 they’re going to just throw all in.

    We’ll see…
    ———————

    What have you seen this winter that gives you any indication that the Yankees will be cheap? Forget underspending – they’ve overspent on two of their big signings.

  44. Wave Your Hat December 20th, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    Well the Yanks would look incredibly foolish if they ended up just a little over 189, so I don’t think that is likely to happen.

  45. Chip December 20th, 2013 at 2:49 pm

    Wave Your Hat December 20th, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    Well the Yanks would look incredibly foolish if they ended up just a little over 189, so I don’t think that is likely to happen.
    —————————

    Exactly.

    And what’s more – unless the payroll is at something like $400 million the luxury tax will still be a pittance compared to what they stand to lose if ratings and ticket sales slip like they did last year, combined with no playoffs.

  46. kd December 20th, 2013 at 2:50 pm

    I think they’ll dump a player if they need to

    as it stands, i just not sure that this team is world series competitive, without tanaka and a few other pieces.

    might as well hope for a 211 game suspension, get under 189 and stop paying a subsidy to other teams

  47. Chip December 20th, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    I don’t think $189 had any impact on why they didn’t match the Cano or Infante offers. I don’t think it has anything to do with why they haven’t gotten involved in the Balfour/Rodney/Benoit pu pu platter or why they haven’t signed a starting pitcher other than Kuroda as of yet.

    They didn’t match Cano or Infante because those are dumb contracts and they didn’t want to give them dumb contracts.

    They haven’t gotten involved in the expensive closer pool because they’re not looking to add a closer.

    And they haven’t jumped into the Garza/Ubaldo fray because they’re waiting to see what happens with Tanaka – just like all the other clubs that haven’t signed Garza or Ubaldo.

  48. Patrick December 20th, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    Well the Yanks would look incredibly foolish if they ended up just a little over 189, so I don’t think that is likely to happen.

    I think many of the people in the Yankees front office are foolish so I wouldn’t be too surprised.

  49. Chip December 20th, 2013 at 2:56 pm

    Patrick December 20th, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    Well the Yanks would look incredibly foolish if they ended up just a little over 189, so I don’t think that is likely to happen.

    I think many of the people in the Yankees front office are foolish so I wouldn’t be too surprised.
    ——————

    Patrick,

    I think the Yankees last September and October saw what it actually cost them to have a down year and this offseason came to the realization that, from a financial standpoint, it makes more sense to be over the tax and good than it does to get under it and be bad.

  50. Jason Voorhees December 20th, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    They didn’t match Cano or Infante because those are dumb contracts and they didn’t want to give them dumb contracts.
    —————————
    ^^^ This.

  51. pkyankfan69 December 20th, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    I don’t blame the Yanks for not signing Cano or Infante to those contracts but I’m surprised they didn’t get one of Nathan/Balfour/Benoit… I realize we have a lot of internal options but very few that are proven in the BP other than Drob and Kelley (and Kelley really seemed to wear down at the end of the year last year.) I’m fine with Drob as closer but would have liked them to have signed one of the top back end guys.

    I guess Balfour is possible still… I really hope we don’t trade for Papelbum… I don’t care if he’s good or not… Trading for Paps would be like signing Beckett or Kevin Millar or Puke again… Yuck!

  52. Ys Guy December 20th, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    as soon as they bowed out on cano they put the brakes on spending and started filling the roster up with cheap players. that tells me that they don’t intend to go over 189 unless they sign tanaka (or unless arod’s suspension is dropped to less than 100 games).

    i can’t see them coming this close to getting under and then going over for juaquin benoit.

    im still keeping my mind open, but it certainly looks like they’re going to field a sub-LT team this year.

  53. Irreverent Discourse December 20th, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    The only thing Balfour has really “proven” is that he can be successful in Oakland… and this revelation that his medicals are messed up is exactly why Oakland isn’t touching him again with a $10m pole.

    Benoit is another guy who is basically a bad reliever with 1 good season under his belt.

    These are two guys that are easily avoided. They have disaster written all over them.

  54. Irreverent Discourse December 20th, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    Ys Guy – Since they knew Cano was not coming back, the Yankees have spent over $300mil.

    These are not good brakes. More like someone cut the brake lines.

  55. pkyankfan69 December 20th, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    Benoit has one good season under his belt?

    4 of the last 6 years his ERA has been under 3

    5 of the last 6 years his WHIP has been under 1.20

  56. Chip December 20th, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    Ys Guy December 20th, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    as soon as they bowed out on cano they put the brakes on spending and started filling the roster up with cheap players. that tells me that they don’t intend to go over 189 unless they sign tanaka (or unless arod’s suspension is dropped to less than 100 games).

    i can’t see them coming this close to getting under and then going over for juaquin benoit.

    im still keeping my mind open, but it certainly looks like they’re going to field a sub-LT team this year.
    ———————–

    They signed Beltran to a big deal after losing Cano.

    I think they “put the brakes on spending” because there weren’t any other big ticket items that made sense for them to spend money on.

    Choo’s not a need.

    An overpriced closer isn’t a need.

    Tanaka’s not available yet and they’re not going to sign Garza or Ubaldo until they know what Tanaka’s status is.

    You can argue about Stephen Drew – but Drew isn’t going to sign to be a 2b or 3b until he explores all options that could keep him at SS first.

  57. Chip December 20th, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    The Orioles will not sign Grant Balfour, executive vice president Dan Duquette told reporters, including Roch Kubatko of MASNsports.com

    Depending on what the health issue is, if the Yankees can get him for a more reasonable contract than the overpay that the O’s were going to give him, that’s not a bad move. 1 year $5 mil to set up for Robertson.

  58. blake December 20th, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    if Gardner’s salary is a lot higher then they are already over…..so that might not be the worst thing.

  59. Russell Munson December 20th, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    Was that Yankee executive the assistant to the traveling secretary?

  60. Captain Clutch December 20th, 2013 at 3:28 pm

    The Yanks should look into Balfour and see if they get him signed on the cheap. Maybe $2m guaranteed with innings pitched incentives.

  61. Chip December 20th, 2013 at 3:35 pm

    Apparently the O’s were scared off by something with Balfour’s shoulder. Shoulder’s are tricky but if the result is a flier on a low base contract – why not?

  62. joeman December 20th, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    C&P

    In his short career as a fill-in closer, Robertson has blown 10 saves and successfully saved only eight games. In the ninth inning, Robertson’s career ERA is a pedestrian 3.88. And when pitching in extra innings, when one mistake usually ends the game, Robertson has been even worse—pitching to a 4.63 ERA.

    Robertson’s 8-for-18 in career save chances equals a career save percentage of 44%. Rivera, the best of all time, had a career save rate of 89%.

    Across baseball last season, the save rate was 69%. In 2013, Robertson saved three of the five games he was brought in to close, which is better, but not great. Imagine the uproar in New York if Rivera’s successor blows every third save?

  63. Chip December 20th, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    Though if that’s the contract he’s going to get he’ll probably want to play for a team where he’s assured a closer’s role.

  64. bbb51 December 20th, 2013 at 3:37 pm

    Brian Roberts contract has up to an additional $2.6 mil of incentives based on plate appearances. I think you have to factor that in, just in case.

    It doesn’t make sense for them to go just a little over, but if they were in that situation and mid season it didn’t look good, they could always deal off a little salary to slip back under.

  65. blake December 20th, 2013 at 3:38 pm

    def should sign Balfour if he’s not in pain….and it’s cheap

  66. joeman December 20th, 2013 at 3:39 pm

    Always said DRob is VG at what he does probably one of the best as a 8th inning guy, they should bring a vet closer in

  67. Irreverent Discourse December 20th, 2013 at 3:40 pm

    The market and outlook for Benoit couldn’t have been that good if he took 2/$14m to be a set-up man for one of the worst teams in baseball.

    blake – Bourn also hit .294/.349/.386 and led the league in SB with 61 (and plate appearences… read: durable) before getting that $6m figure in arb. I don’t think Gardner has played well enough… or flat out enough in general… for that big of a raise.

  68. bbb51 December 20th, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    joeman, some of those blown saves were surely due to idiosyncrasies in the save rule where he got a blown save but wasn’t actually bought in for a “save” as we think of it.

    Misleading numbers.

  69. Jason Voorhees December 20th, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    In 2013, Robertson saved three of the five games he was brought in to close, which is better, but not great. Imagine the uproar in New York if Rivera’s successor blows every third save?
    ————————————
    This is false. He was brought in to close three games. And he closed all three of them.

    You get charged with a blown save whenever you are brought in as relief and give up a lead, regardless of the inning. Robertson’s two blown saves came in the 8th inning. They were badly blown leads, but did not come when he was brought in to close.

  70. Irreverent Discourse December 20th, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    Robertson was also 5-1. Obviously he should be the 5th starter.

    Bad stats are bad. I’m looking at you saves and wins. Naughty.

  71. blake December 20th, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    ID,
    just going by the report….if Gardner gets say 5 or 6 million then it’s pretty much over for 189. It’s over anyway so I wish they’d stop pretending and just make the team better.

  72. joeman December 20th, 2013 at 3:45 pm

    bbb51 December 20th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
    joeman, some of those blown saves were surely due to idiosyncrasies in the save rule where he got a blown save but wasn’t actually bought in for a “save” as we think of it.

    Misleading numbers.
    ————————–
    if I’m reading you right..these were saves and blown saves he started the innings in 2013..don’t know about before that…..also looking at his hits/per inning are high

  73. Irreverent Discourse December 20th, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    As of right now… I expect the Orioles to swoop in and steal Garza instead of spending that money on another RP.

    http://goo.gl/lozGOW I hope whoever signs Tanaka likes radioactive material in their clubhouse…

  74. Ys Guy December 20th, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    the cano signing was dec 6th they announced signing beltran the 7th. i look at that as part of the same move for the yankees, in any case it didnt put them over the cap and every move since them has been aimed at staying under the cap, thus, they are still under the cap with only a couple of roster spots left to fill.

    like i said im keeping an open mind but they’ve made quite a few moves in a row that indicate a sub 189 payroll.

    i always assumed they’d go over if they had a chance to sign tanaka.

  75. joeman December 20th, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    Irreverent Discourse December 20th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
    Robertson was also 5-1. Obviously he should be the 5th starter.
    ———————————————–
    he could be a good SPer

  76. bbb51 December 20th, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    2011 Bourn: 158 games, 34 doubles, 10 triples, 2 hr, 61 sb 14 cs, 140 so, .294/.349/.386, 103 ops+

    2013 Gardner: 145 games, 33 doubles, 10 triples, 8 hr, 24 sb 8cs, 147 so, .273/.344/.416, 108 ops+

    That’s about as close as it gets overall.

  77. blake December 20th, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    Mark Feinsand ?@FeinsandNYDN 2m
    The Yankees have also added former Cubs manager Mike Quade as the organization’s roving outfield and baserunning instructor.

  78. blake December 20th, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    Gardner hit 6 more homers than Bourn….that matters

  79. Captain Clutch December 20th, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    Too bad the Yanks never signed Robertson to an extension. He is going to get a lot of money from another team.

  80. austinmac December 20th, 2013 at 3:51 pm

    I like to see them spending money on coaching.

  81. Ys Guy December 20th, 2013 at 3:51 pm

    some of you guys really have never seen another closer for the yankees. you’re gonna have to get used to it.

    people used to bixch about righetti all the time when he closed. seems like he’d load the bases every time but then wiggle out of it. but he go the job done.

    i kinda think drob is going to be just like rags, shaky all over but getting the save in the end.

    take your blood pressure pills before the 9th inning.

    but im good with drob!

  82. Ys Guy December 20th, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    if the yankees do go over the 189 expect to see them try to negotiate extensions with gardner and drob

  83. blake December 20th, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    I always saw Posada as their future roving baserunning coach.

  84. Chip December 20th, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    Ys Guy,

    I understand the skepticism but you can’t look at it in a vacuum. Signings slowed down when they did because there wasn’t anyone to give a big contract to.

    Like I said, the big ticket items that are still in play are Choo, Garza, Ubaldo, Drew and Tanaka. They made an offer to Choo and it doesn’t make sense to go back to him unless they’re trading Gardner and they’re not trading Gardner or engaging Garza or Ubaldo until the Tanaka situation sorts itself out. And Drew isn’t signing to play 2b or 3b until he’s sure he can’t get a job playing SS.

    It’s not that they closed up shop, it’s just that the market dictated a slowdown as far as they’re concerned.

  85. astrocityfan December 20th, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    just doing a quick drive by to say Merry Christmas everyone! Hopefully santa leaves us a japanese pitcher under the tree this year!

  86. joeman December 20th, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    for someone with so much speed which is his (Gardner) game his CS per SB average isn’t all that good…

  87. Chip December 20th, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    blake December 20th, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    I always saw Posada as their future roving baserunning coach.
    ————–

    Or Bernie.

  88. Irreverent Discourse December 20th, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    joeman – I don’t know if you were actually serious… :) but Robertson’s success relies a LOT on the deception of his fastball. He has the closest release point to home plate in the league, so his fastball seems to get there sooner and throws off a batters timing. You hear it described as “late life” by those who peddle in cliche’s.

    I don’t think he could really be successful more than one time through the order.

  89. joeman December 20th, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    Captain Clutch December 20th, 2013 at 3:50 pm
    Too bad the Yanks never signed Robertson to an extension. He is going to get a lot of money from another team
    ————————————–
    huge year for him and couldn’t be in a better spot to make big money

  90. Irreverent Discourse December 20th, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    bbb51 – If you think that 100 at bats and 40 stolen bases are “close” then… sure :p

  91. Jerkface December 20th, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    for someone with so much speed which is his (Gardner) game his CS per SB average isn’t all that good…

    He has a career 80% success rate, which is very good. Hes at that rate even with his down year last year due to leg issues. Without last year its 82% and Jacoby Ellsbury is at 85%?

  92. joeman December 20th, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    without looking didn’t DRob come into the league as a starter

  93. Ys Guy December 20th, 2013 at 3:57 pm

    gardner is not a good basestealer, despite the #’s. he waits too long to steal, often til after two outs have been added, and even in situations when they need him to go, he waits 6 pitches before he does. he doesnt intimidate pitchers with his speed.

    speaking of bad basestealers, bernie just never got the hack of stealing despite the speed he had. he could got 1st to third with the best of them but just couldnt judge when to steal or get a good lead.

  94. joeman December 20th, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    Jerkface December 20th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
    for someone with so much speed which is his (Gardner) game his CS per SB average isn’t all that good…

    He has a career 80% success rate, which is very good. Hes at that rate even with his down year last year due to leg issues. Without last year its 82% and Jacoby Ellsbury is at 85%?
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    don’t think that 80% is right….

  95. Irreverent Discourse December 20th, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    “don’t think that 80% is right….”

    It isn’t.

    It should be 80.9

    :P

  96. joeman December 20th, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    he has 161 SB & been thrown out 38 times..looks like he gets thrown out once every five times

  97. joeman December 20th, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    for every 5 times he steals a base he gets thrown out once

  98. Irreverent Discourse December 20th, 2013 at 4:02 pm

    ^ this is exactly why people shouldn’t try to use statistics.

  99. joeman December 20th, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    Irreverent Discourse December 20th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
    ^ this is exactly why people shouldn’t try to use statistics.
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    say what I see

  100. Russell Munson December 20th, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    Doesn’t getting thrown out once every five times mean you are getting thrown out twice every 10 times, = 80%?

    We get it, you hate Gardner. You don’t have to make up fake stats to show it.

  101. joeman December 20th, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    161 SB’s & been thrown out 38 times…explain to me what this means

  102. Irreverent Discourse December 20th, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    It means in 199 attempted steals, he was successful 80.9% of the time.

    That is an “elite” SB rate.

  103. joeman December 20th, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    Russell Munson December 20th, 2013 at 4:07 pm
    Doesn’t getting thrown out once every five times mean you are getting thrown out twice every 10 times, = 80%?

    We get it, you hate Gardner. You don’t have to make up fake stats to show it.
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    can’t get over on anyone

  104. joeman December 20th, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    Irreverent Discourse December 20th, 2013 at 4:07 pm
    It means in 199 attempted steals, he was successful 80.9% of the time.

    That is an “elite” SB rate.
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    SOB..I quit

  105. joeman December 20th, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    well for sure Youkilis isn’t coming back…

  106. joeman December 20th, 2013 at 4:11 pm

    sure wish they would get Choo

  107. Ys Guy December 20th, 2013 at 4:48 pm

    they bowed out on choo, and i dont blame them.

    first off they dont need 5 starting OF’ers and to me, what he’s turned down aleady is more than he’s worth.

    if i’ve got to pinch hit for a guy in high leverage situations, which you would have to with choo, then he’s nowhere near a $20M player.

    i like choo but nowhere near $20M+ worth.


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