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Offseason down time comes at a good time for Yankees

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 24, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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These quiet days around Christmas and New Years are prime time for speculation. What’s next? What’s left? What are the Yankees in position to do or not do to wrap up their offseason? Whether it’s email or Twitter, I’ve been asked over and over again about the pitching staff and the third base situation and the Yankees ability to spend; and over and over again I’ve been answering with some version of, “It depends…” That’s the reality of the Yankees heading into this particular holiday season. The baseball offseason usually goes quiet right now, and that’s actually good timing for a Yankees team that needs answers. A lot of these factors should be familiar — we’ve been talking about some of them for months — but almost every pressing issue facing the Yankees depends heavily on these still-unanswered questions. What’s next for the Yankees? Well, it depends…

Is Masahiro Tanaka going to be posted?
The Yankees say they’re not waiting for Tanaka before engaging other starting pitchers, but it’s hard to believe Tanaka’s uncertainty isn’t impacting the market. The earning power of free agent starters could rise if Tanaka stays in Japan, so there’s reason for players to hold off for a while. If Tanaka is posted, the Yankees have to decide how much to offer him (the Rangers signing Shin-Soo Choo probably takes Texas out of the mix, which helps). If Tanaka isn’t signed — either because he’s not posted, or because another team pays more — the Yankees have to decide among various types of risks for Plan B. From Ervin Santana to Bronson Arroyo to Paul Maholm to in-house options, each alternative brings its own kind of uncertainty. This is the most significant question that’s been most hanging over the Yankees this offseason, except for…

Will Alex Rodriguez be suspended?
A decision could come fairly soon after the new year, just as this typically quiet period is coming to an end. What the Yankees need to know is how much money they’re saving (if any) and how much playing time they have to fill (if any). If Rodriguez isn’t suspended, the Yankees have no realistic hope of avoiding the luxury tax. Might as well spend, spend, spend at that point (although it might leave little room for a guy like Mark Reynolds). Without Rodriguez, the Yankees still have a glaring need in the infield for either a right-handed platoon third baseman or more of an everyday option. Speaking of which…

Is Stephen Drew willing to play second or third?
Last winter, Drew prioritized the opportunity to play shortstop, which led him to sign with the Red Sox. Now it’s worth wondering if he’s feeling the same way. If Derek Jeter remains the Yankees top choice at short, that means Drew would have to play second or third for the Yankees. Would he be OK with that? Would he come because there’s still a solid chance shortstop would fall into his lap? Would he be more OK with one year at another position, knowing a multi-year deal would almost certainly make him a starting shortstop again next season? Frankly, he’s not the only potential Yankees target who could be concerned about what role he’ll play, because…

How bad are those medical reports on Grant Balfour?
Presumably one of the best late-inning relievers on the market, Balfour could be a closer or a setup man (which fits the Yankees perfectly). He had an Orioles deal in place before Baltimore backed out because of medical issues that showed up in Balfour’s physical. How concerning are those red flags? Are they mild enough that Balfour’s market value will drop without taking away his high-end potential? Are the medical issues significant enough that the Yankees couldn’t consider him a real upgrade in a bullpen that’s already relatively high on potential but low on dependability? That sort of free agent risk might be the Yankees best option because they’re still not sure…

Does the trade market offer anything worthwhile?
The Yankees farm system is coming off a down year that cost significant trade value for the team’s upper-level prospects. Their best trading chips now seem to be Ivan Nova (who’s incredibly necessary for the Yankees incredibly thin rotation) and Brett Gardner (who’s somewhat expendable, but might not bring back an impact infielder or pitcher). Trading away Ichiro Suzuki — even while eating a decent amount of salary — might at least free up a little bit of spending room, but an Ichiro deal isn’t likely to bring back much of substance. Same for trade involving expendable Eduardo Nunez or Austin Romine or Vernon Wells. Relatively small free agent deals similar to Brian Roberts or Matt Thornton could happen at any time, but a trade market that fits the Yankees might only develop now that the free agent market has grown thinner.

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235 Responses to “Offseason down time comes at a good time for Yankees”

  1. austinmac December 24th, 2013 at 9:09 am

    Chad,

    Good thoughts. I hope you are enjoying the family and the holiday.

    You may officially tell your mother we very much appreciate you.

  2. BIG AL December 24th, 2013 at 9:13 am

    MTU -

    Good morning Mike. Hope all is well by you.

  3. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 9:14 am

    Nice summary of the major issues Chad.

    We appear to be in hurry up and wait mode.

    Have a wonderful time with your Family.

    Cherish the moments.

    :)

  4. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 9:16 am

    Al-

    Thanks. Much appreciated.

    Same for you.

    Remember to keep me in the loop.

    ;)

  5. J. Alfred Prufrock December 24th, 2013 at 9:19 am

    Jmills, BigAl, YF, Tar, Comet, Luis primo, MTU, YT, UnKnown, jmv, YsG, GregD, GF, JF, LGY, Doreen, Hankinfla, exiledintampa, chicken Fred Stanley, tominga, IgotID, Cashmoney, ShMe Spencer, austinmac, bigDan, tucker, tyler, PatM, pat, upstate Kate, blake and all the rest who post here; and to those we sorely miss: Glove, Randyl, RichinNJ, Erica, Erin, Tarheel NYC, and the legendary GB7:

    Merry Christmas or what ever you celebrate observe
    And safe beautiful holiday to all.

    PS: Nick in SF: if youre in Princeton: the Bent Spoon gelato’s on me! (hope you come back)

    Shout out Merry Xmas to Chad!

  6. blake December 24th, 2013 at 9:20 am

    Merry Christmas or happy holidays to everyone. I ordered something from Japan….hope it gets here in time

  7. Yankee Trader December 24th, 2013 at 9:20 am

    Chad

    Good morning and a very happy and healthy holiday and year for you and your family.

    The Bullpen has too many ? Marks.

    Robertson-replacing a legend
    Kelley- likely 8th inning with his best pitch, a slider. Will his second half success continue?
    Claiborne- faded the last month
    Thornton- along with Hughes, they were the two best set up relievers in 2009, and ever since then has been declining

    I would have liked the Yankees to add Benoit, who has a CU and fastball and would have been OK with setting up. If Balfour is Ok then he might be the best option. Also would like another lefty.
    O’Flaherty will be one year removed from TJ surgery on 5/20/2014 and I believe the Yankees might benefit by signing him to an incentive laden deal before the Braves resign him.

  8. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 9:21 am

    JAP-

    Very best to you as well.

    Peace, health, and happiness.

    :)

  9. blake December 24th, 2013 at 9:23 am

    Best to you and yours jap

  10. blake December 24th, 2013 at 9:24 am

    MTU,

    How you doin my man?

  11. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 9:24 am

    YT-

    Nothing much until the Tanaka and/or A-Roid decsions.

    The Japanese truly are inscrutable.

    About a month and a half until P/C’s report.

  12. Yankee Trader December 24th, 2013 at 9:26 am

    Looks like the Breakfast Club is up early. I too want to wish all my LoHud friends, all of you, a very Happy Holiday and a Healthy New Year.

    Mac-they’re 28 and 25

    Plan to catch up on movies:

  13. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 9:27 am

    Blake-

    Hanging in Blake.

    Thanks for asking.

    Hope you and your Family have a safe, healthy, and happy Holiday.

    And I hope your Japanese present arrives in Time.

    Must be so much fun to watch those little Blake’s open their presents.

    :)

  14. jmills December 24th, 2013 at 9:27 am

    rtsp://r4—sn-p5qlsu7l.googlevideo.com/CjYLENy73wIaLQl8US9aoOuU7BMYJCAkFEIJbXYtZ29vZ2xlSARSBXdhdGNoYOWmtbK2zNzaUAw=/0/0/0/video.3gp

    ” Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence! ”

    I sent the above trailer prior, but given all the Tanaka going ons, redundancy is a good thing. Merry Xmas everybody!

  15. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 9:27 am

    YT-

    The very best to you as well.

    :)

  16. blake December 24th, 2013 at 9:28 am

    MTU,
    It’s a wild time right now at my house….but I wouldn’t trade it for anything. Hope you guys are well and have a great Christmas

  17. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 9:29 am

    Mills-

    Merry Xmas.

    Be well.

    Hope Santa is good to you.

    :)

  18. yankeefeminista December 24th, 2013 at 9:29 am

    Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays, Yankee people! Enjoy your families and friends, some great food, and a Yankee package-san under the Christmas tree. Revel in the beauty and the spirit of the season whatever you may celebrate. Peace and love!

  19. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    It seems the whole World slows down between Xmas and New Year’s.

    Which is probably a good thing.

  20. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    YF-

    The very best of what Life has to offer to you YF.

    :)

  21. Cashmoney December 24th, 2013 at 9:35 am

    Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!

  22. Yankee Trader December 24th, 2013 at 9:35 am

    SPONICHI: Tanaka appeared at a public relations event for bed maker Nishikawa Sangyo on Monday. After the ceremony, when reporters asked him if he was going to dream in English next season, he kept his reply short and said, “I am not sure.” [Sponichi 12/24/2013]

    [UPDATE @ 7:48pm]

    Rakuten Eagles’ President Yozo Tachibana spoke to reporters today and said, “We want to provide everyone with a reply as soon as possible. We hope they can wait just a bit longer.”

    Source: Nikkan Sports 12/24/2013

    [UPDATE @ 8:36pm]

    Additional Tachibana quotes, these from Sanspo:

    “We are in the final stages. We want to get this done as soon as possible.”

    “We are working on a proper statement. We hope people can wait a little bit longer.”
    Source: Sanspo 12/24/2013

  23. yankeefeminista December 24th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    Thanks, MTU. To you as well! I hope the Luckster and family are healing/sustaining. I’m always sending thoughts and prayers your way.

  24. blake December 24th, 2013 at 9:42 am

    Sounds like he will be posted…..get the check book ready Hal. Get Tanaka, Balfour, Drew , and Baker and we are pretty much awesome…..not joking…..that team would be potentially really good.

  25. Yankee Trader December 24th, 2013 at 9:46 am

    Blake

    I want to add O’Flaherty to your list, Johannn Santana on a ST invite to teach the staff the change up, and a minor league deal for Grady Sizemore.

    Is that too much to ask Santa?

  26. mick December 24th, 2013 at 9:47 am

    Jmills, BigAl, YF, Tar, Comet, Luis primo, MTU, YT, UnKnown, jmv, YsG, GregD, GF, JF, LGY, Doreen, Hankinfla, exiledintampa, chicken Fred Stanley, tominga, IgotID, Cashmoney, ShMe Spencer, austinmac, bigDan, tucker, tyler, PatM, pat, upstate Kate, blake,Trisha,mick, Bret the Hitman and all the rest who post here; and to those we sorely miss: Glove, Randyl, RichinNJ, Erica, Erin, Tarheel NYC, and the legendary GB7:
    =================================
    You left a few out…

  27. Ys Guy December 24th, 2013 at 9:48 am

    he was always going to be posted, they were never going to turn down $20M, even if they couldn’t get $60M for him.
    this favre act has all been for their fans and the japanese media to soak up.

    now they will act like santa and give him the present he asked for.

  28. blake December 24th, 2013 at 9:48 am

    I want to add O’Flaherty to your list, Johannn Santana on a ST invite to teach the staff the change up, and a minor league deal for Grady Sizemore.

    Johan is intriguing to me

  29. yankeefeminista December 24th, 2013 at 9:50 am

    Thanks for the Christmas wishes, Pruf, to you as well and everyone else. Looks like a beautiful sunny crisp winter’s day in the East!

    Sorry to see Marshall go. Marshall may not be a big arm and I agree with prioritizing those kinds of arms. But I’d have DFA’d a AAAA IF instead or Wellsy, but “conservation” rules out over “innovation”… The 1-4 (hockey) or cover 2 (football) mentality. Marshall could ultimately be pretty useful as a backend innings eater. I wish him well.

  30. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 9:52 am

    Blake-

    MG really nailed the Japanese character a while back.

    His view appears to be entirely accurate.

    A few things he said:

    They don’t have a word for “No”. They’ll “yes” you to death.

    They are a consensus society and engage in endless debate when making decisions.

    Making mistakes is very bad. Saving face is extremely important.

    They are very manipulative towards certain foreigners.

    So. Who frickin’ knows when they’ll actually get off the dime.

    Maybe by next Xmas.

    :)

  31. Yankee Trader December 24th, 2013 at 9:53 am

    Blake

    So this would be your roster:

    OF- Gardner, Ellsbury, Beltran, Soriano, Baker

    IF- Teixeira, Roberts, Jeter, Drew, Johnson, Ryan

    C- McCann, Cervelli

    Pitchers – Kuroda, Sabathia, Tanaka, Nova, Pineda, Phelps, Robertson, Balfour, Kelley, Claiborne, Thornton, one of Warren/Betances/Nuno

    That works for me. :)

  32. Ys Guy December 24th, 2013 at 9:54 am

    thank you jap and everyone else for all the nice holiday wishes. and i wish everybody a jolly holiday.

    it’s out to long island today, up to albany tomorrow and back here for a boxing day party on thursday.

  33. blake December 24th, 2013 at 9:55 am

    Trader,
    That’s very close yes …..it’s doable and that’s the best 25 in baseball IMO

  34. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 9:57 am

    Lot’s of driving Y’s.

    Watch out for the drunks.

    Happy Holiday.

    :)

  35. Yankee Trader December 24th, 2013 at 9:58 am

    Blake

    About 220-225M for that roster, with ARod suspended the entire year?

  36. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 9:58 am

    The NYY’s.

    Best Team that money can buy.

    Oh yeah.

    :)

  37. blake December 24th, 2013 at 9:59 am

    That roster is very versatile , very good defensively….very deep pitching wise and would give Joe a ton of lineup options.

    If they made that 25 man a reality then I’m not sure who is better than them on paper

  38. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 9:59 am

    Those attendance figures from last season must have caused Hal to pucker a bit.

    So here he is spending again.

    ;)

  39. Ys Guy December 24th, 2013 at 10:01 am

    i live about 35 miles as the crow flies from baldwin.

    it’ll take 2 hours to drive it.

    maybe 2 1/2.

  40. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 10:01 am

    Blake-

    We all know about paper Tigers.

    But yes. That would be a huge improvement over last year.

    :)

  41. Yankee Trader December 24th, 2013 at 10:02 am

    On paper that might be the best 25 man roster. Will have to wait and see if the pitching holds up from A to Z, or in this case from Balfour to Thornton, or Warren if he makes the squad out of ST.

  42. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 10:02 am

    Y’s-

    Just practice good driving technique.

    There will be more than the usual share of revelers on the road.

  43. blake December 24th, 2013 at 10:02 am

    Yankee Trader says:
    December 24, 2013 at 9:58 am
    Blake

    About 220-225M for that roster, with ARod suspended the entire year?”

    Yes…..if they are at 185ish now then you’re looking at 15-20 for Tanaka, 12-15 for Drew, 7 or so for Balfour , and then 2 or 3 for Baker.

    So on the low side your looking at 35 or 36 million for those 4 and on the high side 45 or so……so a roster between 220-230 million is what Id guess without Arod.

    I’m not sure Hal would go there…..because if Arod isn’t suspended all year then the payroll becomes closer to 240-250.

  44. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 10:04 am

    There will be a big competition this Spring for the 5 slot.

    Hope it’s a real one. Not one of those rigged jobs.

    ;)

  45. Ys Guy December 24th, 2013 at 10:05 am

    damn, that IS a nice roster!

  46. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 10:05 am

    A-Roid is very unlikely to be suspended for the entire season.

    It would be an excessive punishment compared with others that have been handed down.

  47. Ys Guy December 24th, 2013 at 10:07 am

    the yankees power over the FA market has never been move visible.

    everybody left on the market is waiting on the yankees.

    nobody wants to negotiate until the yankees decide about the payroll

    drew, baker, all of the pitchers are all waiting for the yankees to get engaged and set the market.

    no agent wants to move without the threat of the yankees in the mix.

  48. blake December 24th, 2013 at 10:08 am

    Id love to be able to play Drew vs RHP and baker vs LHP…..that’s an .850-.900 ops spot in the infield between those two. Now you wouldn’t straight platoon them because Jeter would need rest and DH days but Adding those two would really give Joe a ton of depth and lineup options……and also give a variety of back up options should guys like Roberts not work out and if Jeter can’t stay healthy.

    I know I’m bullish on Drew but I honestly think he’s just as important as Tanaka for their 2014 chances……they have to sure up the infield D

  49. Ys Guy December 24th, 2013 at 10:09 am

    we really should have an arod pool this week.

    my guess is 162 games.

  50. Yankee Trader December 24th, 2013 at 10:09 am

    everybody left on the market is waiting on the yankees.
    ———
    So true, and the Yankees are waiting on Horowitz.

  51. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 10:10 am

    Blake-

    Don’t agree amigo.

    Getting that mid-rotation SP is light years more important FWIS.

  52. Ys Guy December 24th, 2013 at 10:11 am

    blake i was just reading on an angels blog how great baker would fit into a platoon with rauuuuul.

    but he’s waiting on the yankees….

  53. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 10:11 am

    Y’s-

    Mine is 100 or less.

  54. blake December 24th, 2013 at 10:12 am

    MTU,
    I think they are both important..pitching can’t win for you if your defense isn’t any good. Tanaka is the priority yes and yes he probably would have te biggest impact but as I said couple of days ago I really think if they added Drew and baker they’d potentially be adding 3 or 4 wins right there…..

  55. yankee21 December 24th, 2013 at 10:13 am

    Chad, that is a good summary of the issues facing NY.

    As far as I’m concerned if the Yankees were to sign Tanaka, sign Drew, sign Balfour or a proven late inning guy, and sign someone like Baker then NY will have greatly improved their team and would be a legitimate division favorite. 92 wins in my book.

    I really hope they do not sign Reynolds, he is a one trick pony.

    I know it’s a minor thing in the overall scheme of the OS plan, but I’m disappointed they let Marshall go for nothing. They should have DFA’d Wells, who offers absolutely nothing. Although he had a lousy 2013, Marshall is still young and has some value.

    Typical move by NY favoring a washed up veteran over a young player.

  56. blake December 24th, 2013 at 10:14 am

    Ys,
    He makes so much sense…..mashes lefties and can play outfield and 2 infield spots. I mean he’s no gold glover at any of them but be mashes lefties and fr this club that’s what you get him for. At the moment they are too dependent on Jeter and Tex vs LHP

  57. Yankee Trader December 24th, 2013 at 10:14 am

    Ys

    I’ll go with 120, 60 since Braun got 60 and another 60 for ratting out Braun. Then he comes back, all appeals and lawsuits dismissed, with the Yankees leading the East and the starting offense clicking on every level. He becomes a late inning pinch hitter, with no chance to catch Mays.

  58. Cashmoney December 24th, 2013 at 10:15 am

    asides from Balfour and Rodney, i think O’flaherty and J.Crain offers the greatest upsides and also good deals of risks. Maybe those names would still be on the board when Tanaka affair is over.

  59. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 10:15 am

    Blake-

    I think they can add Baker w/o a problem cause he’s cheap.

    Drew OTOH is super expensive.

    I’d bet Ryan is your D backup for the infield ( I know you hate his noodle bat).

    Maybe they get Drew if he is very reasonable on his years and/or money.

    But he is not a priority FWIS. Don’t think he is to the Yankees either.

  60. mick December 24th, 2013 at 10:15 am

    Typical move by NY favoring a washed up veteran over a young player.
    ===================
    Wells will be gone sooner or later.

  61. Shame Spencer December 24th, 2013 at 10:16 am

    Happy holidays e’rybody!! Hope everyone has a great day. I still have some last minute shopping/wrapping to do which would probably surprise no one.

    The big issue this year is my mother’s determination to remove the antipast. She doesn’t want to take it away but she was taking a ‘no cold cuts’ stance on the matter. Blasphemy. I passed along a message to my aunt (‘WHY IS MY MOTHER TRYING TO RUIN MY LIFE?!?????’), who spoke with my other aunt, who made sure my uncle put together a proper antipast.

    So in case anyone is keeping score: Shame Spencer won Christmas.

  62. yankee21 December 24th, 2013 at 10:16 am

    Marshall was at one time a highly regarded draft choice, although he was selected in the 6th round, he got huge bonus money, and many teams passed over him because they knew he wanted to be a Yankee. Another great development job by NY…

    I hope Marshall pitches great for the CUBS. This is a guy I rooted for.

    Wells is just a guy I root for to go away, far away.

  63. blake December 24th, 2013 at 10:16 am

    RHP

    Gardner CF
    Jeter SS/3B
    Ellsbury CF
    Beltran RF
    McCann C
    Tex 1B
    Soriano DH
    Drew SS/3B
    Roberts 2B

    Good luck getting through that multiple times Righties…..that’s what we used to call around here a circular lineup

  64. Shame Spencer December 24th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    Ys Guy December 24th, 2013 at 10:11 am

    blake i was just reading on an angels blog how great baker would fit into a platoon with rauuuuul.

    but he’s waiting on the yankees….

    ————-

    I wanted Baker more than Reynolds anyway.. hope they end up with him instead.

  65. mick December 24th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    They are not spending the money on Drew.
    There will better alternatives next year.

  66. blake December 24th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    And when they try to LOOGY Gardner or Drew late in the game……boom have a Baker!

  67. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 10:19 am

    Shame-

    Have a wonderful Holiday w your Family and enjoy the hard won antipast.

    All the best to you.

    :)

  68. blake December 24th, 2013 at 10:19 am

    mick says:
    December 24, 2013 at 10:17 am
    They are not spending the money on Drew.
    There will better alternatives next year.

    Like who? And they will probbaly cost a lot more than Drew. Drew is better than Asdrubal IMO and there is no guarantee that Hanley will be a FA and he’s really more of a 3B going forward

  69. yankee21 December 24th, 2013 at 10:19 am

    Drew should be a priority IMO because they have no other legitimate starting SS options internally if Jeter can’t answer the bell. Which is a pretty reasonable possibility considering his age and his injuries.

    Ryan is not starter material, he is an outstanding defensive player and should be a late inning guy only.

  70. Yankee Trader December 24th, 2013 at 10:19 am

    I believe I read yesterday that Reynolds was in negotiations with another unknown team.

  71. mick December 24th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    Drew can’t hit blake.

  72. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    Like it or not for now Ryan is the Jeter BU.

  73. yankee21 December 24th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    Yankee trader; until Reynolds signs with another team though I fear he will re-sign with the Yankees. I don’t want him, let him go away.

  74. blake December 24th, 2013 at 10:22 am

    mick says:
    December 24, 2013 at 10:20 am
    Drew can’t hit blake.

    .777 OPS last year…..he actually hits RHP very well. He can’t hit lefties……but he overall gives you pretty good offense for a SS and he’d be a 15-20 homer threat in YS. Ryan can’t hit……Drew is basically ryan that can hit

  75. Ys Guy December 24th, 2013 at 10:22 am

    congrats shame!

    cue ole blue eyes: start spreadin’ the news…..

  76. mick December 24th, 2013 at 10:23 am

    If they get Baker, why do they need Reynolds?

  77. blake December 24th, 2013 at 10:23 am

    mick says:
    December 24, 2013 at 10:23 am
    If they get Baker, why do they need Reynolds?

    They don’t….most of us prefer baker to Reynolds

  78. mick December 24th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    They’re not paying Drew what he wants.
    Esp in the role they want him in.

  79. mick December 24th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    If Baker can field at 2nd then he could platoon with Roberts.
    Nunez and Johnson can platoon at 3rd.

  80. Ys Guy December 24th, 2013 at 10:28 am

    how much would drew cost? im quite convinced he’s only playing with the yankees as a way to pump up his price for boston. i dont think he intends to switch positions unless the money is crazy.
    he’s basically had 3 seasons in his career that were the same as last year’s. otherwise he’s been dissappointing or injured.
    he would hit 20 at nys and he’d be a very good jeter insurance policy, which they need.
    i think he’s going to get alot more money than he’s worth.
    but he could be the guy who completes the infield.
    hes nowhere near as important as tanaka for the yankees.
    i could go either way on drew.

  81. blake December 24th, 2013 at 10:28 am

    mick says:
    December 24, 2013 at 10:27 am
    If Baker can field at 2nd then he could platoon with Roberts.
    Nunez and Johnson can platoon at 3rd.

    How are we gonna train the rotation to not allow balls to be hit on the left side of the infield? That’s a disaster right there

  82. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 10:28 am

    Get me Baker, Tanaka/Bailey, and Balfour or other closer type and I’m happy.

    :)

  83. mick December 24th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    Ryan is a stopgap if Jeter is hurt.
    They can then make a trade for a SS.

  84. Yankee Trader December 24th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    Blake

    I like Ellsbury at the top. I think he has a better chance of stealing second with Jeter up behind him. I have no proof to back that up.
    Between 2007 to 2012 Jeter has grounded into double digit DP’s each year.
    21-24-18-22-10-24

  85. blake December 24th, 2013 at 10:30 am

    Trader,
    I’m fine with Jacoby leading off…..Id just like to get both he and Gardner up there

  86. mick December 24th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    Nunez wasn’t bad at 3rd last year.
    I don’t know how Johnson is at 3rd.
    Arod will be back in June.

  87. Shame Spencer December 24th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    Ys – I think the Yankees made a similar offer to Drew as they did to Infante, which was 3/24. I’m not a big Drew fan, tbh, but that’s a fair deal probably. Last I read, Boras was still trying to get the Mets to be all in. They’re a team that makes a better fit for him than either the Yankees or Boston.. so it’s hard to tell what he’s really looking for.

  88. blake December 24th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    mick says:
    December 24, 2013 at 10:29 am
    Ryan is a stopgap if Jeter is hurt.
    They can then make a trade for a SS.

    Easier said than done …..trading for a SS mid season is next to impossible

  89. mick December 24th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    Easier said than done …..trading for a SS mid season is next to impossible
    ============
    Astrubel.

  90. blake December 24th, 2013 at 10:33 am

    mick says:
    December 24, 2013 at 10:31 am
    Nunez wasn’t bad at 3rd last year.
    I don’t know how Johnson is at 3rd.
    Arod will be back in June.

    Nunie wasn’t bad at 3rd? You’re right…..he was impossibly bad :)

  91. mick December 24th, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Girardi will hit Jeter 2nd and Tex 4th.
    Loyalty.

  92. blake December 24th, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Easier said than done …..trading for a SS mid season is next to impossible
    ============
    Astrubel.”

    Drew is better than Asdrubal and you don’t have to trade for him…..Asdrubal is overated

  93. yanks61 December 24th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    Yankee Trader December 24th, 2013 at 10:14 am
    Ys

    I’ll go with 120, 60 since Braun got 60 and another 60 for ratting out Braun. Then he comes back, all appeals and lawsuits dismissed, with the Yankees leading the East and the starting offense clicking on every level. He becomes a late inning pinch hitter, with no chance to catch Mays.

    —————————————————————————————

    YT, while I hope Aroid is gone for the season, I think you’ve probably nailed it with the most probable scenario.

    “He becomes a late inning pinch hitter, with no chance to catch Mays.”

    If the Yanks are clicking on all cylinders, with good production out of their 3rd baseman (basemen), does anyone think that the Yankees would do that ? Could they do that? I mean a team does have the right to use a player that way if they wish, right? I realize that they might be wasting a roster spot in using him that way, but does anyone think that it may make him more likely to agree to a “reasonable” buyout if he knows the rest of his career is as a PH only?

  94. blake December 24th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    Asdrubal was barely above replacement level last year…..drew outhit him by 77 OPS points and is a better defender too

  95. mick December 24th, 2013 at 10:36 am

    Beltran should hit 3rd so Tex should not be right behind him.
    Soriano should hit 4th.
    Tex 5th would be alright. Or McCann against a righty.

  96. Shame Spencer December 24th, 2013 at 10:37 am

    Say what you want about Arod, but he’d lengthen the line up if he’s able to play… it definitely reads better with him in it at this point.

  97. Ys Guy December 24th, 2013 at 10:37 am

    brendan ryan at this moment is sticking needles into his steven drew vodoo doll…

  98. mick December 24th, 2013 at 10:39 am

    the yanks are in on drew to drive up bostons price.

  99. blake December 24th, 2013 at 10:39 am

    Shame Spencer says:
    December 24, 2013 at 10:37 am
    Say what you want about Arod, but he’d lengthen the line up if he’s able to play… it definitely reads better with him in it at this point.

    In theory….but when he breaks down after 30 games they’d still need Baker and Drew. I think they need to plan like Arod doesn’t exist to be honest…..either he will be suspended or he will be hurt…..either way they can rely on him…..

  100. mick December 24th, 2013 at 10:39 am

    why would arod get more than braun?

  101. blake December 24th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    mick says:
    December 24, 2013 at 10:39 am
    the yanks are in on drew to drive up bostons price.

    They need to take advantage if the situation

  102. blake December 24th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    mick says:
    December 24, 2013 at 10:39 am
    why would arod get more than braun?

    I don’t know that he should…..but I still think he will

  103. Ys Guy December 24th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    i was a fan of mays as a kid, so i dont want arod to pass mays.

    but i can’t feel bad for willie since he was all good when barry passed him.

  104. Yankee Trader December 24th, 2013 at 10:43 am

    Reynolds at third

    2011 253 chances, 26 errors
    2012 142 chances, 6 errors

    Have no idea how many balls he couldn’t get too, but one site used the word ” butcher” when describing his defense.

  105. Ys Guy December 24th, 2013 at 10:43 am

    ill do a pool for arod next tuesday or wednesday.

    but im done discussing him until the verdict comes down.

  106. mick December 24th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    Off to see American Hustle.

  107. Yankee Trader December 24th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    Mick

    Enjoy the movie. It’s terrific.

  108. yanks61 December 24th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    mick December 24th, 2013 at 10:39 am
    why would arod get more than braun?

    Mick, I think the people who are assuming this are believing that MLB has a lot more on Rodriguez than they had on Braun.

    Of course if this turns out not to be true, or at least Horowitz doesn’t believe it to be true, than in fairness, as you imply, and as much as I want Aroid to be gone, then he should not get more than Braun.

    We’ll see. I’d really like all of the evidence to be released to the public one day.

  109. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    American Hustle ?

    The Scott Boras story ?

    :)

  110. Yankee Trader December 24th, 2013 at 10:49 am

    Sorry in 2012 that should be 40 chances and 6 errors for Reynolds at third. 142 innings.

  111. Shame Spencer December 24th, 2013 at 10:55 am

    In theory….but when he breaks down after 30 games they’d still need Baker and Drew. I think they need to plan like Arod doesn’t exist to be honest…..either he will be suspended or he will be hurt…..either way they can rely on him…..

    ————-

    Arod unhealthy is a pretty similar offensive player to Drew totally healthy… just don’t really care for Drew and especially don’t like the idea of signing him for 3 or 4 years. I’m sure they’ll sign him though, since he’s the best of what’s left. Watching Drew in the playoffs was painful and I was rooting against the Sox, smh.

  112. Yankee Trader December 24th, 2013 at 11:00 am

    Have to go and run some errands.

    Again, everyone enjoy the Holiday. Stay warm, enjoy your friends and family and hoping this is a good year, a healthy year for all of us.

    Until later.

  113. yankee21 December 24th, 2013 at 11:03 am

    Against RHP, I would bet TEX 6th. Against LHP, he’d be my clean-up hitter.

    Where Jeter will bat will not depend on his performance it will depend on his availability, I imagine he will bat 2nd until the end of his tenure. He should be batting 8th against RHP but I doubt Joe G goes there.

    Beltran is my # 3 hitter. I want Ellsbury leading off and reaking havoc on the base paths.

  114. RhapsodyInBlue December 24th, 2013 at 11:14 am

    Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays the entire Lohud crew :)

  115. yankee21 December 24th, 2013 at 11:17 am

    I have to go; Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all.

  116. BIG AL December 24th, 2013 at 11:24 am

    I feel Ellsbury will not steal quite as much, unless Jeter changes his style. He lacks the patience needed to allow runners to steal, all too often 1st pitch swinging, imo. :)

  117. blake December 24th, 2013 at 11:26 am

    Arod unhealthy is a pretty similar offensive player to Drew totally healthy”

    Apples and oranges though because Arod can’t play elite level SS

  118. BIG AL December 24th, 2013 at 11:26 am

    JAP -

    Same to you and yours. Have a very Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year!

    It’s so nice to see the blog getting along so well, and concentrating on talking baseball, rather than trash talking, let’s keep the good spirit going.

  119. blake December 24th, 2013 at 11:27 am

    Again a big selling point for Drew to me is that he can play SS and would solve that for the near future

  120. Shame Spencer December 24th, 2013 at 11:30 am

    blake December 24th, 2013 at 11:26 am

    Arod unhealthy is a pretty similar offensive player to Drew totally healthy”

    Apples and oranges though because Arod can’t play elite level SS

    —————-

    It’s not lost on me.. but IMO needing Drew represents a systemic issue that’s utterly infuriating. I’m not excited about needing Drew and I’m even less excited about him taking over for Derek Jeter. It’s crazy they signed Jeter to a 3-4 year deal and still have no one close. Utter incompetence.

    Sign Diaz in February.

  121. BIG AL December 24th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    blake -

    Do you feel Drew could be the Yankees long term SS?

    I’ve got to believe there will be better players available through trades in the future, so I wouldn’t want to commit to him for longer than 2 years, which most likely would prevent him signing him.

  122. Shame Spencer December 24th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    So it’s not really about Drew for me as much as what he symbolizes. That, plus him being a middle of the pack talent only leads me to one response: meh.

  123. Shame Spencer December 24th, 2013 at 11:32 am

    Big Al – One thing for sure is you don’t sign Drew and let him stop you from getting better at SS or 3B. So in that sense, sure, sign Drew and then still try to get better there. Then trade Drew to the Mets lol. (If they sign Drew and give him a NTC I’ll quit. Really.)

  124. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 11:34 am

    Hike day today.

    later.

    :)

  125. comet December 24th, 2013 at 11:39 am

    Merry Christmas all! Hope 2014 brings health, happiness and a WS title.

  126. BIG AL December 24th, 2013 at 11:40 am

    Shame -

    The only way, imo, you can sign Drew is to tell him he plays 3B, and when Jeter needs a rest he moves to SS, and next season he becomes to regular SS.

    This will provide better D, and allows time to look for a much better long tern solution at SS.

    What could really screw things up is if Jeter has a fairly good season, and wants to come back for yet 1 more year, and wants to remain at SS.

  127. Madrugador December 24th, 2013 at 11:40 am

    Merry Christmas to all.
    I always enjoy reading the goings on contained on the blog. Wish I had more time to read all the sabermetrics to add more to the discussion.
    Thanks for a great year.

  128. BIG AL December 24th, 2013 at 11:43 am

    The Rangers seem inclined to trade Andrus, I wonder what it would take, and do we have anything they might want in return?

  129. BIG AL December 24th, 2013 at 11:47 am

    Later – Y’all have a great day, and once more Merry Christmas!

  130. Captain Clutch December 24th, 2013 at 11:49 am

    @npbtracker

    Rakuten has made a decision; will meet with Tanaka in the next day or two. Tachibana: “I’ve basically decided” http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/h.....9-san-base

  131. UpState December 24th, 2013 at 11:52 am

    blake December 24th, 2013 at 10:33 am
    mick says:
    December 24, 2013 at 10:31 am
    Nunez wasn’t bad at 3rd last year.
    I don’t know how Johnson is at 3rd.
    Arod will be back in June.

    Nunie wasn’t bad at 3rd? You’re right…..he was impossibly bad :)
    ===============================

    Impossibly Bad ???

    Who is a worse fielder that the Nunnie ?

    Can we name anyone more inept at the ML level ?

  132. blake December 24th, 2013 at 11:57 am

    Do you feel Drew could be the Yankees long term SS?”

    Depends on the definition of “long term”……for the next 10 years no….for the next 3 years sure….they could do a lot worse

  133. blake December 24th, 2013 at 11:58 am

    BIG AL says:
    December 24, 2013 at 11:43 am
    The Rangers seem inclined to trade Andrus, I wonder what it would take, and do we have anything they might want in return?

    I like Elvis but is he better than Drew right now? He certainly wasn’t last year and he costs a lot as well plus you have to trade for him

  134. blake December 24th, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    “Can we name anyone more inept at the ML level ?”

    Not that is considered a SS…..I mean it’s relative…..Travis Hafner is probably a worse fielder overall but you’d never up him at SS

  135. tomingeorgia December 24th, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    Merry Christmas, All!

    blake, what’s for Christmas dinner? I’m smoking a nice big roasting chicken with lots of rosemary and other stuff, because there’s just the two of us this year.

  136. blake December 24th, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    Tom,
    My sister in law is making a turkey…..I’m doin the gravy but that’s about it…..that chicken sounds awesome l..merry Christmas to you and your family

  137. joeman December 24th, 2013 at 12:23 pm

    usually do 40+ people at my house on Christmas Eve…not this year..going to my daughters for a party of 10 people..Antipasto.Filet mignon,green beans & sweet potato ….Happy Holidays to all

  138. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West December 24th, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    Good morning, well, where I live it is.

    Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all, especially Chad!

    Jeff Baker, he’s confident it’s the Yankees on a 2yr deal, most likely culminating the first week in January or shortly thereafter. He says they’ve asked him to be ”jack of all trades”.

  139. joeman December 24th, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    would like to see them talk Drew into 3rd for one year and then SS will be freed up for him next year…lets KJ be the rover.

  140. blake December 24th, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    “Jeff Baker, he’s confident it’s the Yankees on a 2yr deal, most likely culminating the first week in January or shortly thereafter. He says they’ve asked him to be ”jack of all trades”.”

    Good

  141. blake December 24th, 2013 at 12:34 pm

    @t_masahiro18: ????????????

    What does this say

  142. austinmac December 24th, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays. Beautiful day here. I hope you all stay warm by your hot stove.

    Jeff Baker would be a good addition. I do think he very likely is the last infield move.

  143. blake December 24th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    The walmartians are bad today

  144. tomingeorgia December 24th, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    blake,
    Tell me about it. I was there before dawn today, and the place was packed.

  145. blake December 24th, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    Walmart is a scary place on a normal day…..

  146. ant928 December 24th, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    Happy Holidays to all! May the Fat Man bring us some Japanese flavor!

    In laws today (so barely any booze or food)…tomorrow my family (so too much booze and food)…may yank out the smoker this weekend for some Boston Butt and a few bourbons!

    Enjoy all!

  147. luis December 24th, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    Merry Christmas to all and to all of your loved ones… I hope that this holidays brings the best to each and everyone of you guys

    Chad…Merry Christmas to you and your loved ones

    JAP, YF…I will e-mail you with my schedule while I am in NY for New Year’s

  148. blake December 24th, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    In laws today (so barely any booze or food)…tomorrow my family (so too much booze and food)…may yank out the smoker this weekend for some Boston Butt and a few bourbons!”

    Now we talkin

  149. RhapsodyInBlue December 24th, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    I prefer to shop in Walmart wearing Sunglasses. There’s show starting every minute, I can’t believe there’s no entry fee.

  150. JobaTipsHisCap December 24th, 2013 at 1:38 pm

    I wish Arod’s book in new year can involve more big/bigger names.
    Everyone in baseball does it. good.

  151. Cashmoney December 24th, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    Never been to Walmart, once they start selling uranium I will though.

  152. tomingeorgia December 24th, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    Cashmoney,
    Bought the giantest size Tide detergent there today, saved 5 bucks over the local chain supermarkets. That’s why I go.

  153. Cashmoney December 24th, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    Tom, have a great holiday. got nothing against Walmart, I just never been one. Aint a thing wrong with saving a few bucks, but i hate shopping in general :D

    later all.

  154. Giuseppe Franco December 24th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    Happy Holidays and Happy Eating to JAP and the rest of the LoHud brood.

  155. pkyankfan69 December 24th, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    Happy Holidays all

    I try to avoid Walmart at all costs but every once and awhile the savings are worth it… Got a ton of Christmas lights from there for pretty damn cheap a few weeks ago.

    Tanaka please. Thank you!

  156. tomingeorgia December 24th, 2013 at 2:22 pm

    Guests coming. See you later, everybody, and have a blessed Christmas and a healthy and prosperous New Year!

  157. jmv December 24th, 2013 at 2:29 pm

    Good afternon

    Just a quick stop by, in order to wish you all the best on this Christmas (Including Tanaka and Bailey, LOL)

  158. joeman December 24th, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    Crain/ Balfour and Arroyo

  159. austinmac December 24th, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    You people are my blogging family. At times we are dysfunctional, argumentative and troublesome, just like every other family. But, I am always glad when you are here and wish you all much joy.

  160. TheStraw December 24th, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    Merry Christmas Lohud peeps.

    Calamari salad is made. Frutti di Mare in process. Hope you all have a great day.

    All I want for Christmas is a SP who can log at least 175 innings.

    Buon Natale….

  161. mick December 24th, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    Enjoy the movie. It’s terrific.
    =================
    See American Hustle.

  162. Against All Odds December 24th, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year to everyone on Lohud

  163. GregD December 24th, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    austinmac December 24th, 2013 at 3:01 pm
    You people are my blogging family. At times we are dysfunctional, argumentative and troublesome, just like every other family. But, I am always glad when you are here and wish you all much joy.

    —————–
    right back at you!!! :)

  164. Yankee Trader December 24th, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    Just a quick hello to wish you all a very Merry Christmas with your friends and family. It’s now Christmas morning in Tokyo. Report from Japan

    NIKKAN SPORTS: If the Eagles are going to give Tanaka their final decision before the end of the year, there is a good chance they will do it on the 25th, since that might be the only day the two sides have time to meet. [Nikkan Sports 12/24/2013]

    Maybe there will be a posting by the time you check your stockings tomorrow morning.

  165. pkyankfan69 December 24th, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    WWWOOOOOOHOOOOOOO!!!!!!

    Now lets hope we get him and he’s good lol

  166. pkyankfan69 December 24th, 2013 at 5:40 pm

    According to Sponichi in Japan, the Rakuten Golden Eagles have decided to post right-hander Masahiro Tanaka.
    Given the nature of this saga and its constant conflicting reports, this news item must be taken with a grain of salt.
    Source: Dylan Hernandez on Twitter Dec 24 – 5:29 PM

  167. Yankee Trader December 24th, 2013 at 5:44 pm

    It’s 7:45 AM in Tokyo. I suspect if there was a meeting Christmas Day, it hasn’t occurred yet.
    But I’ll keep my fingers crossed.

  168. blake December 24th, 2013 at 6:11 pm

    Merry Tanakamas !

  169. blake December 24th, 2013 at 6:12 pm

    Get the wallet ready Hal…..you’re going over for Tanaka so just grab Drew, Balfour, and Baker too and lets win the WS

  170. ac1 December 24th, 2013 at 6:15 pm

    Get Tanaka ASAP

  171. pete2 December 24th, 2013 at 6:22 pm

    “how much would drew cost? im quite convinced he’s only playing with the yankees as a way to pump up his price for boston. ”

    Boston could not sign him w/o going over 189, although they could trade off some pitching to get back down.

    Red Sox have an internal option at SS, and more than 1 in 3 years, and if Drew signs there he is one slump or DL trip away from being a bench player, and that’s not a great place to be if you will be a free agent again soon. Unless Drew is willing to take a 1 yr deal he is not going back to Boston. YS is a better park for him since a lot of his FB goes to RF.

    A reasonable offer to Drew, say 3/35, and he is a Yankee. Only going to cost them a 2nd round pick and they will need a SS in 2015 even if they give jeter one last shot at it in 2014.

  172. jmills December 24th, 2013 at 6:42 pm

    After I show Tanana, ” Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence “, he’s coming my blue jay way. I require a break over here ! :D

  173. jmills December 24th, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    P.S., I’m glad my daughter’s older, so that I might mess around with you guys upon this eve.

  174. jmills December 24th, 2013 at 6:46 pm

    Cripes, if I don’t get Tanana, I’m phoning up BigAl, and trading Bautista for Seaver,….I’ve had quite the enough.

  175. jmills December 24th, 2013 at 6:51 pm

    rtsp://r6—sn-jc47eu7r.googlevideo.com/CjYLENy73wIaLQkieP8DrEkyMBMYJCAkFEIJbXYtZ29vZ2xlSARSBXdhdGNoYOWmtbK2zNzaUAw=/0/0/0/video.3gp

    One of my very favourites Bruce C0ckburn songs is, ” Tocayo ” – saw the guy many temps, both solo, and avec les band!

  176. blake December 24th, 2013 at 6:55 pm

    Cubs gonna be all in on Tanaka too

  177. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 6:56 pm

    “The Rakuten Golden Eagles have decided to post star pitcher Masahiro Tanaka, according to reports from Japanese outlets Sponichi (link) and Nikkan Sports (link). It’s a turnaround from reports last week that indicated the Golden Eagles were leaning against allowing Tanaka to make the jump to MLB.”

    MLBTR

    MTU with the Xmas eve scoop.

    :)

  178. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 6:59 pm

    Blake-

    The Cubs would have to absolutely blow everyone away to get Tanaka.

    I don’t believe they can bid that much higher than other interested parties.

    The Yankees are going to be all over this one.

    ;)

  179. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 7:00 pm

    A good agent should be able to have a field day w this.

  180. blake December 24th, 2013 at 7:01 pm

    The yanks seem to have built their offseason pitching plan around Tanaka so they had better get him

  181. jmills December 24th, 2013 at 7:02 pm

    Oops, I said ” Tocayo ” not ” Tokyo ” – I was thinking about jmv, the guy, my ami with the same nom as moi, the one who loves Senna AND gilles villeneuve! :)

  182. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 7:05 pm

    Blake-

    Honestly, I would be more worried about some sort of crazy bid from a team like the M’s.

    They have Iwakuma on their staff and are their location is definitely a positive for a Japanese pitcher.

    This should be very interesting.

    It would be nice to see the Yankees flex their muscles again.

    They should use their money, prestige, and players to help recruit Tanaka.

    ;)

  183. jmills December 24th, 2013 at 7:05 pm

    I’m sure Tanaka is going to love it in, Toronto; I’m sending Naomi Watts over to convince him as we speak.

  184. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 7:08 pm

    Yankees, Cubs, Snakes, M’s, Nats, Halos, Dodgers, Tigers.

    All potential players.

    And w that low of an entry bid there will be dark horse teams too.

  185. jmills December 24th, 2013 at 7:08 pm

    Hurlers can fall apart at any minute like pretty pictures, don’t waste your precious time on this unproven commodity :D

  186. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 7:08 pm

    The outlay for Tanaka will easily exceed 100 Mil.

  187. jmills December 24th, 2013 at 7:10 pm

    Maybe I can send over Dickey to convey avec Tanaka as well,….worth a go!

  188. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 7:10 pm

    Phase 1 complete.

    No on to phase 2.

    ;)

  189. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 7:10 pm

    ed: now

  190. jmills December 24th, 2013 at 7:11 pm

    My Rogers can throw away 100 mills and then some! Canada has to make up for this after losing Gretzky to L.A. !

  191. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 7:12 pm

    Tanaka is going to make a fortune.

  192. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    Big money is going to be required to reel in Tanaka.

    Does Hal have the stomach for a bidding war ?

    Because he’s going to be in one whether he likes it or not.

    There are several highly motivated Teams.

    How far will he go to win ?

  193. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 7:17 pm

    LoHud.

    Your Xmas present has arrived.

    :)

  194. jmills December 24th, 2013 at 7:27 pm

    MtU, never underestimate Crazy Canucks, we downhill slopes very fast, until we hit our heads,…very hard.

  195. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 7:29 pm

    Mills-

    I would guess w that low of a posting fee almost any Team might have a shot.

    Even a Canadian one.

    Merry Xmas, by the way.

    :)

  196. joeman December 24th, 2013 at 7:29 pm

    Bad news coming

  197. Jerkface December 24th, 2013 at 7:29 pm

    Get Tanaka and some stocking stuffers. 25 year old potential front line guy? Can’t buy that anywhere else.

  198. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    What bad news Joeman ?

    You mean Santa isn’t coming to your house ?

    :(

  199. joeman December 24th, 2013 at 7:31 pm

    Hearing reports now not going to be posted

  200. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 7:31 pm

    Joeman-

    Yeah. Bad news for the rest of baseball.

    ;)

  201. jmills December 24th, 2013 at 7:32 pm

    MTU, I still have to get Ms ’91 Prelude down your way,….no snakes if you please :)

  202. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 7:33 pm

    Joeman-

    It’s already up on MLBTR from 2 sources.

    Check it out yourself.

    ;)

  203. joeman December 24th, 2013 at 7:33 pm

    Say new report at 7:19 pm

  204. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    JF-

    You got anything on this ?

  205. joeman December 24th, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    Is he going to be posted or not

  206. Benny Blanco December 24th, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    time to go hard after tanaka

  207. jmills December 24th, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    I want Seaver!

  208. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    Joeman-

    He is according to Sponichi and Nikki sports.

    I have no idea if they are reliable.

  209. joeman December 24th, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    Getting a little pissed here

  210. Captain Clutch December 24th, 2013 at 7:37 pm

    The yanks have been waiting for this the whole off season. They signed the big guys but have been waiting to see what will happen with Tanaka. They better get the check book out because it’s probably going to cost almost $150m.

  211. joeman December 24th, 2013 at 7:37 pm

    Saw he wasn’t on rotoworld

  212. Benny Blanco December 24th, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    Now the question is how the hell do we convince him to come to the yankees?

  213. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 7:39 pm

    Benny-

    Mainly money.

  214. jmills December 24th, 2013 at 7:40 pm

    Tanaka loves Toronto, we have lots of fine Japanese persons here. ” I think I’m going Japanese, I really think so . “

  215. joeman December 24th, 2013 at 7:40 pm

    Lot of coflicting reports out there

  216. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    Joeman-

    I am only being the messenger.

    The Japanese have been very difficult to read.

    MLBTR has it w 2 sources.

    I hope they are accurate.

    There’s a chance they aren’t.

    We’ll know soon enough.

  217. joeman December 24th, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    Cubs are saying they are all in on tanaka

  218. jmills December 24th, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    Joe, I gave you Orr, Tanaka is, ” mine, all mine ” ( in the words of Daffy Duck ) :D

  219. joeman December 24th, 2013 at 7:44 pm

    Let me see where rotoworld got their info

  220. Jerkface December 24th, 2013 at 7:44 pm

    Lot of coflicting reports out there

    Not right now. Nothing is conflicting. Rakuten has decided what to do and 2 Japanese newspapers have sources that say he will be posted today. Its ~9 am in Japan on the 25th, so they will meet with Tanaka, inform him, then inform the media.

  221. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 7:44 pm

    Joeman-

    As long as the money is close there is no way Tanaka is going to choose the Cubs over the Yankees.

  222. jmills December 24th, 2013 at 7:45 pm

    The Cubs and Tanaka, what a waste, ask Jenkins. Its like thinking the Leafs are going to convince, Stanley.

  223. Jerkface December 24th, 2013 at 7:45 pm

    The two bigger sports news in Japan have him being posted. A newspaper I have never heard of says he won’t. Not really conflicting there.

  224. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    Thanks JF.

    We’ll find out for sure soon enough.

  225. joeman December 24th, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    Rotoworld still says he will not be posted

  226. jmills December 24th, 2013 at 7:47 pm

    ” Come on, come on, living for the money ” – AC/DC

  227. Jerkface December 24th, 2013 at 7:47 pm

    JB Allen of english yakyu website reports his source says announcement will come at 11 AM Japan time.

  228. MTU December 24th, 2013 at 7:48 pm

    One thing is for sure.

    He either will or he won’t.

    ;)

  229. joeman December 24th, 2013 at 7:49 pm

    It comes on the heels of a report from Sponichi stating that Rakuten WOULD post Tanaka. Ultimately, we suspect that the Golden Eagles will grant Tanaka his wish and let him leave for the states, but anything is possible at this point. Rakuten is expected to officially inform Tanaka of their decision on Wednesday.
    Source: Dylan Hernandez on Twitter
    Tue, Dec 24 2013 7:19 PM

  230. jmills December 24th, 2013 at 7:49 pm

    Joeman, at one time, Derek ” Turk “, my name’s not Jeter, Sanderson, made more than, Pele.

  231. jmills December 24th, 2013 at 7:50 pm

    ” Should I stay or should I go “

  232. joeman December 24th, 2013 at 7:51 pm

    According to Sports Jiji in Japan, the Rakuten Golden Eagles will not let Masahiro Tanaka go to the major leagues.

  233. Captain Clutch December 24th, 2013 at 7:55 pm

    If Tanaka is posted it’s obvious that the teams that will be all in are the Yankees, Cubs and Mariners. The question will be how far do the other 2 teams take this and how far will Hal allow Cashman to go.

  234. joeman December 24th, 2013 at 7:55 pm

    New one

  235. jmills December 24th, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    Joe, good, I’m content with Brandon Morrow, Dickey, and whoever else decides to show up! ( Buehrle, you go eat ‘dem innings! )


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