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Year in review: A feel-good team (but only for a moment)

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 31, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Joe Girardi

Continuing our look back on 2013 — and the most significant moments that happened month-by-month — we’ll now look at the start of the regular season, when Derek Jeter was on the disabled list and several other players were about to join him. Remarkably enough, the season was actually a positive for the Yankees roughly two months into the schedule. The Yankees were scrappy, and they were winning, but they couldn’t win with smoke and mirrors for long. Eventually, their patchwork roster began to unravel, and their most controversial player stood front-and-center.

APRIL
Robinson Cano signed with Jay Z’s new agency
It was April 2. The season had barely started, and already the Yankees were dealing with an offseason curveball when Robinson Cano dropped Scott Boras and signed up with Jay Z’s new agency. “I want to stay with the same team,” Cano said a few days later. “You know, if my agent decides that and talks to the Yankees, we’ll see what happens.” The announcement of Cano’s decision to sign with Jay Z came in the very same press release that announced the formation of Jay Z’s agency. It was a buzz-worthy story at the time, and it brought a new wrinkle to Cano’s free agency. He might have landed in Seattle with Boras as well. We’ll never know.
Worth mentioning: Phil Hughes rushed back to start in Detroit; Derek Jeter diagnosed with a new break in his ankle; Kevin Youkilis to the DL after playing through back soreness; Francisco Cervelli’s broken hand; Mason Williams’ arrest; Cano playing shortstop; Mariano Rivera’s first visiting stadium retirement gift

MAY
A first-place team
I’m not sure it’s the Yankees most definitive win of the first half, but it’s certainly among them. It was May 25 at Tampa Bay. Vidal Nuno made a spot start. Brennan Boesch had been called up the night before and had a huge hit in the ninth. Ivan Nova pitched in relief. Lyle Overbay had a game-winning homer in extra innings. The Yankees were, at the time, a first-place team. They were in first place from May 9 through May 27, and it’s because they got help from unexpected sources and won games like this early in the year. In the month of May, believe it or not, the Yankees were one of the biggest surprises in baseball.
Worth mentioning: Curtis Granderson hurt again; Mark Teixeira off the disabled list; Ivan Nova optioned to Triple-A; the Subway Series; David Adams’ hot start; the night Phil Hughes couldn’t pitch out of the first inning; Mariano Rivera’s return to Kansas City; Joba Chamberlain to the DL

JUNE
“Just shut the f— up.”
This is around the time the Alex Rodriguez saga truly became a soap opera. In late June, published speculation hinted that Rodriguez might fake an injury to get out of rehab games, or push for an early rehab assignment, or find a way to retire and collect his money. It was kind of chaos, and nothing was off the table. On June 25, Rodriguez tweeted that Dr. Bryan Kelly had given him a green light to play in games, something the Yankees had denied. Almost immediately, Brian Cashman responded in an interview with ESPN New York: “You know what, when the Yankees want to announce something, (we will),” Cashman said. “Alex should just shut the f— up. That’s it. I’m going to call Alex now.” Cashman never denied the quote, and soon apologized for his language. It was made-for-TV drama.
Worth mentioning: Surgery recommended for Mark Teixeira and Kevin Youkilis; Lyle Overbay in the outfield; Rodriguez beginning rehab in Tampa; Zoilo Almonte’s strong arrival; the loss in Oakland when the heart of the order when 0-for-28; Andy Pettitte winning on the day his son was drafted

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115 Responses to “Year in review: A feel-good team (but only for a moment)”

  1. wanzies222 December 31st, 2013 at 12:10 pm

    Repost (sorry):

    Got a minute or two; I’ll jump in if that’s okay…

    I skimmed the last couple of days worth of posts and thought I’d comment on a couple of things:

    The interest in Jimenez is real. The FO concern is CC’s 2nd half ERA of 6.00+. He’s convinced he needs his girth back. Docs want him thinner because of the knees. F = ma

    As baseball fans, you’ve all heard this a million times…”so and so went from being a thrower to a pitcher”.

    Jimenez’ metamorphosis is that simple. He became a pitcher. He was consumed by getting his velocity back to 98 instead of throwing with movement. Then changes came about. All the credit for that goes to Mickey Callaway. He’s recognized inside the industry as a pretty good instructor.

    Don’t sell Jimenez short. Those who know believe he will be the steal of FA.

  2. MTU December 31st, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    Greetings Steve.

    Happy and Healthy NY to you and the large brood.

    :)

  3. Can of Corn December 31st, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    Can of Corn December 31st, 2013 at 12:10 pm
    Ys Guy December 31st, 2013 at 11:46 am

    “MTU December 31st, 2013 at 11:43 am

    Y’s-

    I think Chad will be getting a new gig soon.”

    ========

    Aren’t both USA Today & The Journal News both under the Gannett umbrella ?

  4. austinmac December 31st, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    Almonte had a nice year at AAA and is having a very good Dominican Winter League season. I would like him to get more of a chance rather than seeing Ichiro and Wells in their decline. One problem is he is much better left handed.

  5. wanzies222 December 31st, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    Same you Mike. Most of the tribe will be scattered by the end of the week…..

  6. pkyankfan69 December 31st, 2013 at 12:14 pm

    Wanzies,

    Ballpark, what will Ubaldo sign for?

  7. austinmac December 31st, 2013 at 12:14 pm

    F= ma.

    Is that a typo or am I slow?

  8. blake December 31st, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    blake says:
    December 31, 2013 at 12:14 pm
    Don’t sell Jimenez short. Those who know believe he will be the steal of FA.”

    That delivery is the issue….I need to see him be able to repeat it for more than a half a season before I’m paying him a lot of money but that’s just me.

  9. Blojaldo December 31st, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    wanzies222 December 31st, 2013 at 12:10 pm
    “Got a minute or two; I’ll jump in if that’s okay…”

    Good post. Totally agree. I also place a fair amount of credence on Cafardo’s reporting as to Ubaldo’s personality and temperament suiting someone who can handle playing in New York. That matters.

  10. Can of Corn December 31st, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    Wanzie:

    Is ‘Michelle B of Yankee Stadium West’ your other half ?

  11. Wave Your Hat December 31st, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    Just my 2 cents on Jimenez, nobody get mad because I don’t have time for a lot of back and forth. The Yanks don’t need a high/reward/high risk pitcher. They need a solid pitcher. Just spend the money on Tanaka and call it a day.

  12. wanzies222 December 31st, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    F = ma

    Force = mass x acceleration :-)

  13. blake December 31st, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    Wanzies,

    I agree that if they can lock up Tanaka and Balfour that they are probbaly a playoff team with just that…..I just think Drew solves a lot of problems both now and for the near future

  14. wanzies222 December 31st, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    blake -

    FWIW, I’ll go with what Tito and Callaway saw. They got it right.

  15. wanzies222 December 31st, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    blake -

    Drew is likely headed to Boston. While possible in NY, not a good fit. Can’t hit the lefties. Pass.

  16. wanzies222 December 31st, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    austinmac -

    FO is hopeful Almonte can be the 5th/AAAA OF. He strikes out a lot and since he still has options, is probably best suited for Scranton, where he can play. But, he could also get a shot to stick in NY. Lots can happen.

  17. blake December 31st, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    Ubaldo to me is about the money it’ll take and whether or not you believe his 2013 is real and if he can sustain it.

    If the budget is blown and they can get him for 2 or 3 years and want to go there in addition to Tanaka then ok…..but it’s risky and could bust big time

  18. blake December 31st, 2013 at 12:22 pm

    wanzies222 says:
    December 31, 2013 at 12:17 pm
    blake -

    FWIW, I’ll go with what Tito and Callaway saw. They got it right.

    Tito and and Calloway aren’t coming with him though…..again I need I see him do it again before I’m convinced

  19. wanzies222 December 31st, 2013 at 12:22 pm

    blake -

    Being a playoff team is not the goal. Being a WS champion in the goal. If CC doesn’t fix it, it ain’t happening. Jimenez is seen as CC insurance. You’d like your chances giving him the ball in Chavez Ravine in game 7 if he’s pitching like the 2nd half of 2013.

  20. blake December 31st, 2013 at 12:23 pm

    wanzies222 says:
    December 31, 2013 at 12:19 pm
    blake -

    Drew is likely headed to Boston. While possible in NY, not a good fit. Can’t hit the lefties. Pass.

    Ryan can’t hit anybody though

  21. wanzies222 December 31st, 2013 at 12:24 pm

    blake -

    Agree to disagree re: Jimenez.

  22. blake December 31st, 2013 at 12:24 pm

    “Being a playoff team is not the goal. Being a WS champion in the goal. If CC doesn’t fix it, it ain’t happening. Jimenez is seen as CC insurance. You’d like your chances giving him the ball in Chavez Ravine in game 7 if he’s pitching like the 2nd half of 2013.”

    If they are trying to win a title then they need to fix the gaping hole in the left side infield D then too

  23. Ys Guy December 31st, 2013 at 12:24 pm

    rex ryan warm-fuzzies lasted one day as idzik puts him right back on the hot seat this monring.

  24. wanzies222 December 31st, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    blake -

    What do you give a rat’s axx about Hal’s money? Who cares what it costs?

  25. Ys Guy December 31st, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    ryan can fill 2/3 of that gaping hole in the left side infield D.

  26. blake December 31st, 2013 at 12:26 pm

    wanzies222 says:
    December 31, 2013 at 12:25 pm
    blake -

    What do you give a rat’s axx about Hal’s money? Who cares what it costs?

    I don’t….I care if Hal cares

  27. blake December 31st, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    I could care less a outs Hals bank account….but Hal does care so they can’t just waste money

  28. wanzies222 December 31st, 2013 at 12:29 pm

    blake -

    The SS spot is fixed D-wise. Ryan is one of the best. You can have a Roy Oyler and still win. Just not 10 of them.

  29. Wave Your Hat December 31st, 2013 at 12:29 pm

    “You’d like your chances giving him the ball in Chavez Ravine in game 7 if he’s pitching like the 2nd half of 2013.”

    I couldn’t help noticing that two letter word in the middle…seems like everything I see about Jimenez has that word “if” in it somewhere.

  30. wanzies222 December 31st, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    WYH -

    “If” has to be true about all of them at some point… every team, every player.

  31. austinmac December 31st, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    OK-I’m slow.

  32. wanzies222 December 31st, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    Gotta scoot…g’kids need some lovin’…..have a safe new year’s everyone.

  33. Blojaldo December 31st, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    wanzies222 December 31st, 2013 at 12:22 pm

    Being a playoff team is not the goal. Being a WS champion in the goal. If CC doesn’t fix it, it ain’t happening. Jimenez is seen as CC insurance. You’d like your chances giving him the ball in Chavez Ravine in game 7 if he’s pitching like the 2nd half of 2013.

    ——————————

    After not making the playoffs in 2012 I think getting to the post-season is paramount. Sure you want to win it all, but the playoffs is the necessary first step and then anything can happen. Hal et al know the smell of no post-season green and they didn’t like it at all. And reality dictates that Boston, Detroit, Tampa Bay, Texas, Oakland, Cleveland and Kansas City are formidable obstacles to even getting to November. I think you plan and play your hand to get there.

  34. BIG AL December 31st, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    Any thoughts about the A-Rod – Levine E-mails?

    Levine wanted Cano to use PED’s? His idea of a joke?

    The more I learn, the more I’m on A-Rod’s side. I’ve said it before, I hope he wins, and gets ZERO suspension.

  35. blake December 31st, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    wanzies222 says:
    December 31, 2013 at 12:29 pm
    blake -

    The SS spot is fixed D-wise. Ryan is one of the best. You can have a Roy Oyler and still win. Just not 10 of them.

    That’s kinda like sayin Stewie fixed catcher though

  36. Blojaldo December 31st, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    That’s ludicrous. Having an awkward buffoon on the management payroll justifies A-Rod demeaning the game, his teammates and baseball fans by cheating over and over again? What does that mean “on A-Rod’s side?” It’s ok to juice and lie about it?

  37. blake December 31st, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    “Any thoughts about the A-Rod – Levine E-mails?”

    Read kinda like two teenage girls texting

  38. MTU December 31st, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    Hoping you have a better NY Al.

    :)

  39. BIG AL December 31st, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    Blojaldo December 31st, 2013 at 12:50 pm
    That’s ludicrous. Having an awkward buffoon on the management payroll justifies A-Rod demeaning the game, his teammates and baseball fans by cheating over and over again? What does that mean “on A-Rod’s side?” It’s ok to juice and lie about it?
    ********************************************

    Show me 1 test A-Rod failed, after the first one he admitted to! You can’t, and he got tested on a regular basis, even during the off season. No failed test, no ban for PED use. Try reading all the facts available on how MLB acted in obtaining the so called evidence.

    Several top lawyers that perform arbitration have said they would not accept the MLB evidence, based on how it was obtained, and the persons involved in supplying it.

    It’s quite OK for you to be an A-Rod hater, if that’s what you are, but, it seems his teammates appear to be on his side as well.

  40. BIG AL December 31st, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    MTU -

    Hey Mike, best to you and yours as well.

    Let’s hope 2014 brings us all health and happiness. :)

  41. MTU December 31st, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    Yes Al.

    Would like it to be better for both of our Families.

    catch you later.

    :)

  42. bigdan22 December 31st, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    Jan 15 or thereabouts should be a very interesting date for this blog. Much more interesting than this stuff about Drew or Jimenez since neither are on the Yanks’ radar now. By the 15th, we’ll know about Arod. I actually don’t think that decision will impact the Yanks’ off season much unless he’s suspended all year which is unlikely. Much more significant will be the Tanaka decision. By around 15-20th Tanaka will have made a decision. If the Yanks have him, it will be a very exciting time to contemplate his impact on the team. But if the Yanks miss, and I think they will, it will get even more interesting. Their budget will probably be less than $200MM with still lots of holes to fill, in the rotation, bullpen and infield. At that point, their options will be more limited but there still will probably be a few options remaining with starters and bullpen candidates.

    What will they do then? So lets just wait a couple weeks and see how it goes. We still should have Arod to talk about real soon!

  43. Howler December 31st, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    Oh boy…more talk about Alex be good…gives me chills just thinking about it :)
    Happy New Year everyone…even those who want Jimenez.

  44. J. Alfred Prufrock December 31st, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    austinmac December 31st, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    Almonte had a nice year at AAA and is having a very good Dominican Winter League season. I would like him to get more of a chance rather than seeing Ichiro and Wells in their decline. One problem is he is much better left handed.
    ///

    Yeah, he is legit from the left side and has both power and situational ability. I think you have to be patient (translation: un-Yankee like) about the right side coming around. I saw very few RHABs from Zoilo down here in Trenton, since I saw him mainly against RHP, but I have seen a few and I was able to glimpse potential power from that side as well (he hit a couple of no-doubters from that side and also really cracked some LDs – despite the low overall OPS).

    He’s not going to develop as a SH on the Yankees. Melky, my eternal comp for Zoilo, really began to drive the ball in 2009 from the right side, which was a big reason why Girardi handed him the CF job. In KC, he batted 2nd, so he really was able to get a ton of ABs RH there and he took off as a good hitter from both sides. Zoilo doesn’t have the same ability to hit the curveball as Melky, but he can shorten up when he has to and has a nice trajectory in general, so I think he can improve and that his upside as a hitter is higher than the Yankees apparently believe (given Chad’s comment that they see him as no more than a “fourth OF”, which is exactly what Cashman foolishly said about Cabrera).

    I hope he gets a chance, but I’m getting tired of saying this kind of stuff because the Yankees give out token chances to young players with high offensive upside. His best chance of developing into a complete player probably lies in another city.

  45. J. Alfred Prufrock December 31st, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    BIG AL December 31st, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    Any thoughts about the A-Rod – Levine E-mails?

    Levine wanted Cano to use PED’s? His idea of a joke?

    The more I learn, the more I’m on A-Rod’s side. I’ve said it before, I hope he wins, and gets ZERO suspension.
    ///

    I’m with you, Big AL :)

    btw, this is for you, from me and my Dad:

    Happy New Year (and to all)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CULVjKTl6cE

  46. J. Alfred Prufrock December 31st, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    If the Yankees desire a “high risk/high reward” starter, they have him for virtual peanuts, and unlike Ubaldo, he’s 25, and sits 93-96 and can pump it up to 98-99.

    He also has three kinds of fastballs, a knockout curve and a basically unheralded among the mainstream deadly changeup.

    Yup, his name is Dellin Betances.

  47. Hankflorida December 31st, 2013 at 1:45 pm

    After this year when we went down to the wire playing for the 2nd Wildcard, I can accept that scenario once again and would be fine going into the one game playoff in October. In 2012, we were there at the end with a pitching staff of CC, Nova, Petitte, Hughes and Garcia and without Mo, and if we do not get Tanake, I think we still have the horses to get to the 2nd Wildcard, and as a Giant and Jet fan going into next weekend, one gets to appreciate getting to the dance floor even if it means through the back door.

  48. blake December 31st, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    “Yup, his name is Dellin Betances.”

    Yea he should be a factor in the pen this year

  49. GregD December 31st, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    JAP— Happy New Year to you and yours!!!

  50. NYY_Girl_Penny December 31st, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    HAHAHA at Lost’s tweet. Yu Darvish contract was 6/56mil and 50mil posting fee. If the Yankees office actually had a clue, they could’ve bid 60mil (doesn’t count against luxury tax) and had Darvish for 106mil total, 56mil taxable. So what now, they bid 20mil and they are going to have to pay Tanaka around 18mil AAV for 6 years or more for a total of 128mil with 108mil taxable. If they are so concerned with luxury tax, how is it they don’t have the brains to realize these things?

    What a dumb group, I love the yankees but these dorks are doing a great job at destroying the legacy. I have zero respect for them and I agree that if they lose Cash they are toast!!

  51. GregD December 31st, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    Blake—- Happy New Year to you and your family…….here’s hoping you get your Drew wish…. :)

  52. BIG AL December 31st, 2013 at 1:50 pm

    JAP -

    Thanks for the link, some things never grow old, just better!

  53. J. Alfred Prufrock December 31st, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    blake December 31st, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    “Yup, his name is Dellin Betances.”

    Yea he should be a factor in the pen this year
    ///

    Yeah well, that’s a given. Nothing like aiming low – which the Yanks are so good at.

    He even got another option granted. They should take that and get him back to starting. They can try Burawa out of the pen to satisfy the “big arm” short relief role.

  54. J. Alfred Prufrock December 31st, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    You bet, Big Al! Enrico’s fine wine.

  55. J. Alfred Prufrock December 31st, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    Hey GregD!

    Good to see you.

    Happy New Year to all.

  56. blake December 31st, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    Greg,
    Thanks….same to you

  57. blake December 31st, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    @mikeaxisa: Nunez gets too close to Cano’s turf: http://t.co/G7wzt0ropC

    Funny

  58. J. Alfred Prufrock December 31st, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    Wish we had a 2B like that.

  59. NYY_Girl_Penny December 31st, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    BIG AL December 31st, 2013 at 12:47 pm
    Any thoughts about the A-Rod – Levine E-mails?

    Levine wanted Cano to use PED’s? His idea of a joke?

    The more I learn, the more I’m on A-Rod’s side. I’ve said it before, I hope he wins, and gets ZERO suspension.

    ——

    You don’t think Cano used PED’s with his best friend Melky and Mentor AROD ? Wanna bet that it comes out sooner or later ? How can you be on Arod’s side at all ? I mean I know that MLB isn’t being forthright at all and they have a lot of the blame of the entire PED scandal, but AROD has always been a “me first” spoiled baby.. who will lie no matter what and throw as many people under the bus as possible if it takes the focus off of him.. YEAH just what i want to represent the Yankees. IF George was alive, he’d eat the Arod $$ and kick him to the curb, the man had integrity and cared whole-heartedly about what it meant to be a Yankee..

    Arod is a loser, period. He got caught and that’s his fault.. he kept making it worse and worse for everybody not just himself. How is it you want him to win and get zero suspension? Regardless of the shenanigans of MLB/Yankees Org, Arod is guilty and solely responsible for the decisions he’s made.. and he has also cheated his way to hundreds of millions of dollars and you want him to have more ??? Wow.. baffling.

  60. Blojaldo December 31st, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    BIG AL December 31st, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    Show me 1 test A-Rod failed, after the first one he admitted to! You can’t, and he got tested on a regular basis, even during the off season. No failed test, no ban for PED use. Try reading all the facts available on how MLB acted in obtaining the so called evidence.

    Several top lawyers that perform arbitration have said they would not accept the MLB evidence, based on how it was obtained, and the persons involved in supplying it.

    It’s quite OK for you to be an A-Rod hater, if that’s what you are, but, it seems his teammates appear to be on his side as well.

    ————————————-

    I’m not an A-Rod hater, I don’t even know what that means. However, I do not respect him at all for disgracing the game and cheating. He’s cut from the same cloth as Lance Armstrong, Bonds, Clemens and Braun – lie about what you did and then trash the accuser. There is plenty of evidence against A-Rod in addition to his failed drug test. His sleazy cousin Yuri Sucart, Angel Presinal, his MLB banned Dominican trainer who was caught at the Canadian border with steroids and syringes in a bag. His relationship with Dr. Anthony Galea who pleaded guilty to federal charge of bringing unapproved drugs into the United States – and now Biogenesis. And so much more. And the prisons are filled with those convicted on circumstantial evidence.

  61. J. Alfred Prufrock December 31st, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    Whoever said this site ain’t what it used to be….was on to something.

    Of course, neither are the Yanks what they used to be…

    Time to get back to my young up-the-middle centric hockey team. (Even my football team is comprised of promising YOUNG talent; including a couple of studs in my front seven, and a QB who can throw, run and who doesn’t use his legs incorrectly to break down plays that his arm could have taken care of).

    Like Meatloaf sang: two out of three ain’t bad.

    Happy New Year.

  62. tomingeorgia December 31st, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    A lot of bile here today, not the way to end a year. I wish everyone a blessed New Year, and a new start towards health, prosperity and grace as time goes on. Oh, yeah: Go Yankees!

  63. blake December 31st, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    tomingeorgia says:
    December 31, 2013 at 2:06 pm
    A lot of bile here today, not the way to end a year. I wish everyone a blessed New Year, and a new start towards health, prosperity and grace as time goes on. Oh, yeah: Go Yankees!

    You cookin a ham?

  64. BIG AL December 31st, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    NYY_Girl_Penny December 31st, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    ********************************************

    You say A-Rod is guilty, yet he failed no test to prove your point.

    I’m referring to the current situation, not the past that he admitted to.

    How about all the players in the past that used “Greenies” supplied by the team to get up for games after a long travel, or a day game after a night game – they all cheated, but, yes in a different way and time. This is why so many players struggled with alcohol abuse, trying to come down from the high of the “Greenies” use.

    If we judged players by their personality, several of those in the HOF would not be there, and some here would not have paid to see play.

  65. blake December 31st, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    Id like to see both Arod and Levine suspended forever

  66. BIG AL December 31st, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    Y’all have a great day, a Happy New Year – bye!

  67. tomingeorgia December 31st, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    blake,
    No, just hoppin john and collards, with Swedish herring on the side. Got a couple of nice hocks in the hoppin john, though. Happy New Year to you and your young shortstops (and their mother, too, of course)!

  68. J. Alfred Prufrock December 31st, 2013 at 2:14 pm

    I’d like to see all the self-righteousness re Alex and all the stupid epithets suspended forever.

  69. blake December 31st, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    Thanks Tom,
    Same to you and yours

  70. J. Alfred Prufrock December 31st, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    And what I’d really like to see is a healthy Alex on 3B on OD.

  71. austinmac December 31st, 2013 at 2:16 pm

    Oyler had a .399 OPS is 1968. Impressive.

  72. J. Alfred Prufrock December 31st, 2013 at 2:16 pm

    Randy Levine?

    Send him back to City Hall.

  73. tomingeorgia December 31st, 2013 at 2:16 pm

    JAP,
    Happy New Year to you. I want to see Alex in the lineup by June.

  74. NYY_Girl_Penny December 31st, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    BIG AL December 31st, 2013 at 2:09 pm
    NYY_Girl_Penny December 31st, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    ********************************************

    You say A-Rod is guilty, yet he failed no test to prove your point.

    I’m referring to the current situation, not the past that he admitted to.

    How about all the players in the past that used “Greenies” supplied by the team to get up for games after a long travel, or a day game after a night game – they all cheated, but, yes in a different way and time. This is why so many players struggled with alcohol abuse, trying to come down from the high of the “Greenies” use.

    If we judged players by their personality, several of those in the HOF would not be there, and some here would not have paid to see play.

    Yes that is true, I do agree with you. Arod is a scumbag bringing others down with him when there is a lot of evidence against him. All he wants now is his $$ and it has nothing to do with baseball, and he feels entitled to everything and is acting like he did nothing wrong. Yes, the Yankee idiots signed him to that awful contract and are being weasels trying to get out of it, but Arod will hurt anybody he can if it means he can get his $$. he has no loyalty whatsoever to his teammates. Jeter stopped hanging around with him years ago WHY ? Because he is a cheating loser. Hoping a guy who is FOS and 100% guilty who has already been paid a boatload of money, gets off scott free ? Well, that is what I disagree with. It is a disgrace.. and he deserves what he gets, and I hope he gets full suspension so all the kids out there who once idolized him see what happens when you cheat and lie.

  75. J. Alfred Prufrock December 31st, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    tomiga,

    Same to you.

    Amen to Alex in pinstripes in June. Sign me up.

  76. Blojaldo December 31st, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    It’s not personality. It’s actions and behavior. This is one of the big problems in sports today. Supporting one’s team and players has become so important that right and wrong, morality and what lessons children are taught become irrelevant. Criminal acts, drugs, lying, cheating . . all hail the mighty athlete.

    This is why players like Mariano Rivera and Derek Jeter are so iconic and respected by many who get it. It was not just their great skill . . . but how they conducted themselves, what standards they held themselves to, their demonstrated respect for the game and unwavering commitment to playing fair with the greatest professionalism possible.

  77. blake December 31st, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock says:
    December 31, 2013 at 2:15 pm
    And what I’d really like to see is a healthy Alex on 3B on OD.

    A healthy Arod doesn’t exist for long

  78. Patrick December 31st, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    River Ave. Blues ?@RiverAveBlues 15m
    Gammons: Cashman says Yankees will not sign Stephen Drew http://rab.me/18WpRjT

    -

    Bummer

  79. chicken_stanley December 31st, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    tomingeorgia says:
    December 31, 2013 at 2:06 pm
    A lot of bile here today, not the way to end a year. I wish everyone a blessed New Year, and a new start towards health, prosperity and grace as time goes on. Oh, yeah: Go Yankees!

    ———————————

    Disagreeing with someone on the blog can be fun and sometimes even change your perspective… all too often on here having a difference of opinion with someone means completely bypassing debate and reason – pretty soon the “discussion” becomes an argument full of name calling… sad

    Tom (and everyone else on lohud) – Hope you have a great New Years as well!!

  80. blake December 31st, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    The source is Peter Gammons so…..

  81. BoJo December 31st, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    I for one am glad to see Cashman say he won’t be signing Drew. I was never a fan of his, I believe his Fenway numbers are inflated, and I am also not a believer that you can buy every top free agent and expect to field a cohesive team.

    I don’t expect a lot from the 2014 team, and would rather see them use it as a transitional year.

  82. AAA December 31st, 2013 at 2:22 pm

    And what I’d really like to see is a healthy Alex on 3B on OD.

    ========================

    Think the days of a truly healthy Rodriguez are long gone. Little history of athletes bouncing back strong from serious hip injuries. Still can be a contributor offensively though.

  83. tomingeorgia December 31st, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    chicken,
    Same to you, Brother.

  84. austinmac December 31st, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    Chicken,

    Folks sometimes get too invested in their opinions. We must realize no one on earth really cares about our opinions on such matters. This is a way to talk baseball with a generally personable group.

  85. tomingeorgia December 31st, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    austin and clan,
    Hope your New Year is everything you hope it to be, and more.

  86. austinmac December 31st, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    Bojo,

    What transition with essentially no young players capable of playing? Isn’t that losing on purpose with no benefit?

  87. J. Alfred Prufrock December 31st, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    blake December 31st, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock says:
    December 31, 2013 at 2:15 pm
    And what I’d really like to see is a healthy Alex on 3B on OD.

    A healthy Arod doesn’t exist for long
    ///

    Considering they signed Ellsbury and McCann, and got rid of the healthiest, most durable player of the lot, I wouldn’t worry too much about it.

    Let Alex play until he can’t, if it comes to that. They aren’t exactly teeming with young, worthy alternatives, now are they.

  88. austinmac December 31st, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    Tom,

    Same to you. If you are getting out of the B and B business, enjoy what is next. I saw the other day you have a Swedish wife. That is not a bad thing, I bet. :)

  89. Blojaldo December 31st, 2013 at 2:28 pm

    A 39 year old steroid user who has only averaged 88 games the last three years. The thing diamond dreams are made of. :)

  90. chicken_stanley December 31st, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    austinmac – you’re right; I guess I need to have a bit of perspective: We do generally have a good group of posters with whom we can talk baseball (and the random oddities) :)

  91. J. Alfred Prufrock December 31st, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    AAA December 31st, 2013 at 2:22 pm

    And what I’d really like to see is a healthy Alex on 3B on OD.

    ========================

    Think the days of a truly healthy Rodriguez are long gone. Little history of athletes bouncing back strong from serious hip injuries. Still can be a contributor offensively though.
    ///

    AAA,

    I think you’re right that he would have trouble with lasting, sustainable health, but considering what the Yankees have failed to develop/acquire, Alex indeed is a viable option to contribute offensively. You take what his body can give. When he does enjoy health, he can play; we saw what he did to RHP in that stretch of good health last season. I was hopeful when I saw him hit in Trenton.

    The Yankees are relying on two signs that do not come with any health guarantees. Why should I shun Alex based on him potentially breaking down?

    Happy New Year. I enjoy your contributions to Lohud.

  92. J. Alfred Prufrock December 31st, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    I am not going to get into what I didn’t participate in, but really, austinmac, I saw no insulting “exchanges” when I speed read through the last two or so threads, I saw ONE person dishing out insults and the other sticking to the argument.

    It’s always that way with that particular poster, who is the least informed yet manages to be the most belligerent. 86 also called out both for needing to play nice, but only one was being civil; what else is new.

    My point: if you’re going to stick your nose in (which is fine), don’t conflate the one who is being reasonable with the one who is not. That happens a great deal here.

    Now, I’m withdrawing my nose. :)

  93. J. Alfred Prufrock December 31st, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    And on the subject itself: no to Ubaldo. If they want high risk/high reward, let Betances start. If he can’t consistently do it, why, you’ve got no money invested so you don’t lose anything.

    If he can be consistent enough to get through starts, you’ve got a shutdown starter from your own little oven. They’ve been granted one last option on him; take advantage.

  94. Bret The Hitman December 31st, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    Thanks for the update Wanzies.

    Sounds like the Yankees like Jimenez as an upside insurance policy to CC based on his 2013 and weight issues/health concerns.

    Go for it.

    Not my money.

  95. J. Alfred Prufrock December 31st, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    Steve Weatherford being interviewed between periods of a Devils-Penguins game.

    I somehow can’t imagine Patrick Elias being interviewed at half-time during a Giants’ game.

  96. bbb51 December 31st, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    River Ave. Blues ?@RiverAveBlues 15m
    Gammons: Cashman says Yankees will not sign Stephen Drew http://rab.me/18WpRjT

    blake December 31st, 2013 at 2:21 pm
    The source is Peter Gammons so…..

    It’s over blake. Cease and desist.

  97. GregD December 31st, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    I think we sign Tanaka….the story about the big spending in the IFA market adds to my confidence that we will do it…….

  98. austinmac December 31st, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    JAP,

    I’m not the cop here, but do we really need to call one another ignorant for a difference of opinion on Jiminez? I suggest there are many ways to make one’s point without an insult.

  99. yankeefeminista December 31st, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    The Ubaldo move doesn’t sound like a Yankee move, and for those who are in but not for the FA price. Um, those two things go together; you aren’t going to get Ubaldo on the cheap and in a short contract. Knowing that is part of the homework of getting how FA works. So, you are basically paying for the outlier half year in the hopes that Ubaldo can sustain it. Kind of antithetical to the way we do business, and in this case I would agree with that philosophy. Would have rather gone for the surer thing in Darvish, but that ship has sails. If the Yanks sign Ubaldo at the elevated price/years then they are really desperate… and as usual being “forced” to compensate for their very poor development and strategic record, not signing Darvish, etc. over the past few years.

    GregD. And happily Tanaka doesn’t affect our IFA $$.

    It is snowing here in NJ. Beautiful big white flakes. Let it snow, let it snow! Happy and healthy New Year to everyone!

  100. Wave Your Hat December 31st, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    ““If” has to be true about all of them at some point… every team, every player.”

    Had to go off grid for a while, so apologies for a belated response. Isn’t this just another way of saying everything exists within a probability range of 0 to 100%? And is that really helpful?

  101. yankeefeminista December 31st, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    blake December 31st, 2013 at 2:21 pm
    The source is Peter Gammons so…..

    It’s over blake. Cease and desist.
    ____
    All I care about is what the Fake Pete Gammons thinks. :)

  102. blake December 31st, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    “All I care about is what the Fake Pete Gammons thinks. ”

    He thinks that Drew would give his left arm to resign with Boston

  103. J. Alfred Prufrock December 31st, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    austinmac December 31st, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    JAP,

    I’m not the cop here, but do we really need to call one another ignorant for a difference of opinion on Jiminez? I suggest there are many ways to make one’s point without an insult.
    ///

    mac,

    My point is, there was only one party who failed the civility test, and by not acknowledging that, or by not differentiating, you’re unfairly calling out the other, who was within the bounds of respectful discussion.

    Either address the person who is trangressing the terms of acceptable discussion or remain silent, because by grouping them as one, you are not being fair and the criticism misses the mark.

    That’s all.

  104. yankeefeminista December 31st, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    Or I should say, antithetical to the way we *have been* doing business. Although, I guess like Ubaldo might we are reverting back from the outlier Yanks to the large sample size if on life support free agency model. Tanaka makes much more sense.

  105. J. Alfred Prufrock December 31st, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    Oops! Sorry. I blame the Penguins for the italics. :)

  106. Wave Your Hat December 31st, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    blake’s idea of Yankee heaven is Drew at short and Headley at third…

  107. yankeefeminista December 31st, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    He thinks that Drew would give his left arm to resign with Boston.
    ___
    Is that the “PG” version? ;)

  108. blake December 31st, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    Wave Your Hat says:
    December 31, 2013 at 3:11 pm
    blake’s idea of Yankee heaven is Drew at short and Headley at third…

    Heaven would be Tulo at SS and Manny Machado at 3B :) …..but I could love with what you said

  109. blake December 31st, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    Yes he would probbaly say the unedited version on the twitter machine

  110. J. Alfred Prufrock December 31st, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    you aren’t going to get Ubaldo on the cheap and in a short contract. Knowing that is part of the homework of getting how FA works.
    ///

    LOL.

    Too dizzy, I imagine, from “skating circles” around everyone to bother with details like that.

  111. blake December 31st, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    “My point is, there was only one party who failed the civility test, and by not acknowledging that, or by not differentiating, you’re unfairly calling out the other, who was within the bounds of respectful discussion.”

    I tried to be nice until she called me a wimp….I’m fine with different opinions….people disagree with mine all the time and that’s fine…..but folks here should understand that if you give an opinion then you could be asked to back it up….that’s just how it’s always been and you can’t get mad if somebody calls you to support your case

  112. chicken_stanley December 31st, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    JAP – I think it was my post, not austinmac’s, that probably started this whole thing. I didn’t mean to lump specific people into a category nor was I referring to a certain period of time. It was simply an observation.

  113. tomingeorgia December 31st, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    —->

  114. chicken_stanley December 31st, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    Blake – no worries (at least on my part).. we seem to disagree quite a bit but at least have fun doing so

  115. J. Alfred Prufrock December 31st, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    blake, you were “nice” to a fault, considering all the strutting going on. Any way, that’s it from me on that: I just am tired of the plea for civility that does not take care to differentiate who is actually failing to be civil and who is succeeding at being so. Either be direct or refrain from making qualitative comments about discussions between others.
    ///

    Penguins’ last shot here.


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