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ICYMI: The Levine/A-Rod email exchange

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 01, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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I tweeted this link a couple of days ago, but it never made it way to the blog. In a way, it’s the most fitting story imaginable to have been the last big Yankees story of 2013.

From New York Magazine, we have a series of actual emails sent back-and-forth between Alex Rodriguez and Yankees president Randy Levine. As I tweeted earlier, I think it’s hard to be shocked by any of this, but it’s also impossible to look away and ignore it. The whole thing is a fascinating look behind the curtain. It includes Levine making jokes — I assume they’re jokes — about Robinson Cano needing some steroids, and it includes Rodriguez making bold statements about being a leader. The back-and-forth also shows the deterioration of the Levine-Rodriguez relationship, beginning almost immediately with the Miami New Times report about Biogenesis.

From what appears to be Rodriguez’s final email to Levine, dated August 3:

Steinbrenner would roll in his grave IF he knew what was happening! Stop, Randy, this isn’t going to be good for any of us!!

From Levine’s response:

We had no role in initiating the investigation or assisting in the direction of the investigation. Despite your continued false accusations (which you know are false) we have acted consistently.

Hardly a surprise that Rodriguez and Levine had a strained relationship in 2013, but to see it in print — in their own words — is amazing. It’s easy to question the wisdom of a team president making a steroid joke in an email to a steroid-tainted third baseman, but I have a hard time getting too worked up about that one (if only because I know the contents of some emails I’ve sent, some of which would be extremely embarrassing if they ever went public without the context of my relationship with the people involved).

If you missed the NY Magazine piece, it really is a must-read. Just another bit of chaos in the most chaotic story of last year. And that story is hardly finished.

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484 Responses to “ICYMI: The Levine/A-Rod email exchange”

  1. austinmac January 1st, 2014 at 12:43 pm

    In the last month we have heard Levine’s Trout comments and now these emails. Exactly, what do they see in him? He is an embarrassment.

  2. RhapsodyInBlue January 1st, 2014 at 12:46 pm

    Hard to figure. Maybe he has photos of someone.

    Look how long Billy Connors was allowed to hang around.

  3. Can of Corn January 1st, 2014 at 12:53 pm

    He is an embarrassment.

    ——-

    Someone here mentioned him being appointed the ambassador of North Korea

    +1

  4. Howler January 1st, 2014 at 12:54 pm

    He’d start a war.

  5. Howler January 1st, 2014 at 12:55 pm

    Iceland would be more appropriate…

  6. Can of Corn January 1st, 2014 at 12:57 pm

    Except we have decent relations with Iceland I believe

  7. mick January 1st, 2014 at 12:59 pm

    Send Rodman.

  8. Howler January 1st, 2014 at 1:06 pm

    I wouldn’t worry about them if our relations with them went sour…now N. Korea…different story. Just by sending him there they’d be upset with us, one look at his hair and they’d think…They’re sending us a circus clown…they have no respect to our high exalted leader.

  9. blake January 1st, 2014 at 1:10 pm

    If Levine gets canned because of this Arod mess it’ll all be worth it

  10. Howler January 1st, 2014 at 1:21 pm

    I didn’t really see anything noteworthy in the emails that would get him fired…some offhand comments about Cano needing steroids isn’t going to do it…I’m sure comments like that get passed around behind the scenes quite a bit.

  11. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 1:21 pm

    Howler January 1st, 2014 at 1:06 pm
    I wouldn’t worry about them if our relations with them went sour…now N. Korea…different story. Just by sending him there they’d be upset with us, one look at his hair and they’d think…They’re sending us a circus clown…
    ——–
    Circus clowns everywhere hate you now.

  12. Can of Corn January 1st, 2014 at 1:24 pm

    Howler January 1st, 2014 at 1:06 pm

    I wouldn’t worry about them if our relations with them went sour…now N. Korea…different story. Just by sending him there they’d be upset with us, one look at his hair and they’d think…They’re sending us a circus clown…they have no respect to our high exalted leader.

    ——–

    Here’s my thinking ………. Levine is the ambassador to North Korea, in the course of his duties …..

    * Spends 90% of his time there, outta this country, no more NYY involvement

    * Is such a clown that the North is pissed at him right from the get go

    * Gels his creeper hair, gets in more hot water

    * Eventually becomes just the clown, embarrassment that we know, North Korea then tosses him into solitary confinement as an irritating political prisoner and hold him for ransom

    * U.S Gov’t refuses to act saying to themselves ‘why would we want this clown back’

    * Levine then becomes a rice farmer in the Korean mountains after 10 years in the hole

  13. Howler January 1st, 2014 at 1:27 pm

    :) Circus clowns everywhere hate you now.

    Going back to old TV…like the Kid told Bozo on the air one time…

    Up Yours Clowny ;)

    (not you BoJo)

  14. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 1:30 pm

    Can of Corn January 1st, 2014 at 1:24 pm

    * Levine then becomes a rice farmer in the Korean mountains after 10 years in the hole.
    ————-
    North Korean rice farmers everywhere now hate you.

  15. Howler January 1st, 2014 at 1:31 pm

    I’d be afraid to eat rice because of what might come off his hair

  16. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 1:31 pm

    Howler January 1st, 2014 at 1:27 pm
    :) Circus clowns everywhere hate you now.

    Going back to old TV…like the Kid told Bozo on the air one time…

    Up Yours Clowny ;)
    ====
    Where was YouTube when you need them?!

  17. tomingeorgia January 1st, 2014 at 1:32 pm

    My older sister got to sit in The Peanut Gallery. I was very envious.

  18. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 1:33 pm

    Interesting read on Chad’s linked article. I wonder how they got hold of the files.

    Probably puts an end to ARod’s Google+ links with Yankees execs.

  19. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 1:36 pm

    I wonder if ARod will ever attend Yankees old-timer events once he retires…

  20. tomingeorgia January 1st, 2014 at 1:43 pm

    I just looked in on the ice hockey game in Michigan Stadium. There have to be better than 100,000 people there. Amazing.

  21. RhapsodyInBlue January 1st, 2014 at 1:44 pm

    I can’t wait until Sunday night when the 49ers visit the frozen tundra of Lambeau field.

  22. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 1:48 pm

    If my New Year’s Resolution this year is to break all my resolutions by January 2nd, does that mean I have to still not have broken some by then in order to fulfill it?

  23. Bronx Jeers January 1st, 2014 at 1:49 pm

    Besides the somewhat concerning drug references in regards to Robbie I see nothing wrong with what Levine wrote. He’s quite supportive at first and then defensive when ARod accuses the Yankees of aiding & abetting the MLB investigation which sounds pretty bogus anyway. Did I read he got that info from his cousin? If so, that pretty much shoots that theory down.

  24. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 1:54 pm

    Bronx Jeers January 1st, 2014 at 1:49 pm
    Besides the somewhat concerning drug references in regards to Robbie
    ========
    Besides that Mrs Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?

  25. tomingeorgia January 1st, 2014 at 1:59 pm

    Dawgs getting whupped pretty good. Not a good start to the year.

  26. bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 2:03 pm

    If I were king, I would pass a law that said if anyone published someone else’s emails for amusement, they should be required to publish their own email for the very same amusement. Now that would be fair.

    There was time when going through people’s mail was thought of as something akin to the acts and practices of totalitarian regimes like Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.

  27. Bronx Jeers January 1st, 2014 at 2:06 pm

    Who knows what these guys say to each other behind closed doors. It’s not Obama making war jokes to John Kerry. It’s Randy Levine writing to a guy that gets paid to hit a ball with a wooden stick.
    Honestly the fact that he can make steroid jokes with ARod says to me that they were willing to put that ugly bit of history behind them and move on.

  28. austinmac January 1st, 2014 at 2:06 pm

    Tom,

    The Peanut Gallery was the best. I’m now jealous of your sister.

  29. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    When I first graduated college and was working at IBM, one of the first things they taught was that you should act as if everything you do or say would appear on the front page of tomorrow’s newspaper.

  30. tomingeorgia January 1st, 2014 at 2:10 pm

    austin,
    And Clarabell honked at her, too. Hard to take as a bratty little brother.

  31. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 2:13 pm

    No love for Chuck McCann and the 3 Stooges?

  32. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 2:15 pm

    Music suggestion for today – lorde-royals

  33. JobaTipsHisCap January 1st, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    Packers win, btw.

  34. tomingeorgia January 1st, 2014 at 2:18 pm

    Zacherley and his horror films.

  35. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 2:23 pm

    Hi, Tom, I understand things are tough right now, just stand beside me and you’ll look so much better! :D

  36. tomingeorgia January 1st, 2014 at 2:24 pm

    American Bandstand. Mrs. Tom was on that show many times.

  37. mick January 1st, 2014 at 2:25 pm

    I wonder if ARod will ever attend Yankees old-timer events once he retires…
    =============================
    …why would he want to get booed?

  38. bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 2:26 pm

    BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    “When I first graduated college and was working at IBM, one of the first things they taught was that you should act as if everything you do or say would appear on the front page of tomorrow’s newspaper”

    _____

    As an attorney for corporate clients, I always tell their officers and agents to assume their emails will appear on the front page of the Wall Street Journal. I’ve seen attorney client communications published on the front page of the Journal. I never give substantive legal advice to my clients via email for that reason. But that generally concerns email that becomes public through litigation or some other legal process. Of course it could apply to any release as well.

    But that certainly doesn’t excuse media types for publishing email that has no probative purpose regarding possible violations law or serves no useful informational purpose. Email, like snail mail, has, and ought to have, an expectation of privacy that society should protect. Professionals like journalists should have standards that protect individuals’ privacy unless a legitimate informational purpose justifies compromising that privacy interest. Embarrassment or mere gossip does not justifying publishing someone’s email. That’s different than takinga photo on the beach. That’s like sticking a lens into someone’s bedroom, which is a clear violation of law.

    It’s time for well-meaning folks to stand up and stop this crazy culture of ours that would seemingly toss aside historical and well-established values of a civilized society all for monetary or mere temporal prestige gain. The media right now is regarded by the public at it’s lowest level in history because of this kind of stuff.

  39. tomingeorgia January 1st, 2014 at 2:26 pm

    jmills,
    Thanks for the kind words. Aren’ your Leafs in that outdoor hockey game?

  40. Can of Corn January 1st, 2014 at 2:29 pm

    BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 1:36 pm

    I wonder if ARod will ever attend Yankees old-timer events once he retires…

    ————-

    More like will he be invited

  41. Can of Corn January 1st, 2014 at 2:31 pm

    RhapsodyInBlue January 1st, 2014 at 1:44 pm

    I can’t wait until Sunday night when the 49ers visit the frozen tundra of Lambeau field.

    ——-

    U rooting for the Pack or Niners ?

  42. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 2:31 pm

    Coming from a medical background, I have difficulty with the media. Case in point – when Margot Kidder was having a hard time, the media had to write it up how Margot was found lost in a suburban backyard. My first priority would be to make sure Kidder was fine along with her immediate family. I certainly wouldn’t be blabing the events.

  43. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 2:32 pm

    Yep, my Leafs are trying to get it right outdoors.

  44. tomingeorgia January 1st, 2014 at 2:34 pm

    bigdan,
    I’m with you, 100%. God-given rights are being forfeited (or confiscated) every day, and noone seems to care. We’re headed for a world I don’t recognize and would not choose to live in. God bless and keep the USA.

  45. austinmac January 1st, 2014 at 2:34 pm

    Tom,

    You are my conduit to the stars. Howdy Doody and Bandstand!

  46. Can of Corn January 1st, 2014 at 2:34 pm

    JobaTipsHisCap January 1st, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    Packers win, btw.

    ——-

    Because Rodgers is back at the helm ?

  47. tomingeorgia January 1st, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    austin,
    She’s my conduit. She did the Stroll on Bandstand!

  48. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    Tom, don’t worry, there’s always been stupid people in the world!

  49. bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 2:39 pm

    I’m not an expert in media. I have some friends who are reporters and I have worked with reporters on stories and such but I’ve never taken a course in this area. But what seems to have happened over the last decade or so is the loss of editorial review. It usde to be, when a reporter finished a story, it went to an editor for review before it hit the morning edition. With twitter and blogs, I don’t think that happens anymore.

    This is what should happen. If your tweets or blog posts are associated either formally or informally with your employer newspaper/magazine, then all your posts or tweets should be reviewed by an editor before publication . Would it slow stuff down a bit? Sure, but we have the technology to remedy that somewhat and if that means some bad stuff doesn’t get out there to the blogosphere all the better.

  50. RhapsodyInBlue January 1st, 2014 at 2:39 pm

    I think the 49ers will win just because I believe as a team they have beter balance on both sides of the ball.

    That being said the weather will imo certainly impact the play. I love both quarterbacks.

  51. austinmac January 1st, 2014 at 2:41 pm

    Tom,

    Impressive. They picked the cutest ones. You did well for yourself.

  52. RhapsodyInBlue January 1st, 2014 at 2:43 pm

    American bandstand woo woo those banlon sweaters.

  53. RhapsodyInBlue January 1st, 2014 at 2:44 pm

    How about Shindig?

    First time I saw the Righteous brothers sing “unchained melody”.

  54. tomingeorgia January 1st, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    austin,
    All the regulars on Bandstand were from South Philly. Mrs. T was from the Main Line, and was a stand-in. First thing she learned, she says, was not to get between a regular and the camera.

  55. tomingeorgia January 1st, 2014 at 2:48 pm

    Rowan and Martin’s Laugh-In was one of the best shows ever. Velly interesting!

  56. bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 2:48 pm

    tomingeorgia January 1st, 2014 at 2:34 pm
    bigdan,

    “I’m with you, 100%. God-given rights are being forfeited (or confiscated) every day, and noone seems to care. We’re headed for a world I don’t recognize and would not choose to live in. God bless and keep the USA.”

    ________

    I’m not a fan of what Snowden did and if he broke the law then he should be prosecuted. But what he started is a sincere and necessary national debate on the role of privacy in a free society. When it come to media, we need a full blown revolution. Or some way to clone Edward R Murrow. A start might be having some type of self-regulatory organization for the media like the AMA or bar associations that will set standards and certify that members have received sufficient training. Lawyers have to go through that so why not journalists? Then when we see a tweet or post or internet story, we can look for that certification and gain some understanding whether that reporter is credible.

  57. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 2:48 pm

    What I remember about Philly is Kate Smith singing ” God Bless America ” prior to important Flyer games.

  58. tomingeorgia January 1st, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    jmills,
    As I recall, the Flyers were undefeated in those games where she sang live.

  59. mick January 1st, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    This is what should happen. If your tweets or blog posts are associated either formally or informally with your employer newspaper/magazine, then all your posts or tweets should be reviewed by an editor before publication . Would it slow stuff down a bit? Sure, but we have the technology to remedy that somewhat and if that means some bad stuff doesn’t get out there to the blogosphere all the better.
    ==================
    C’mon these are the days where anything goes.
    In fact it is in demand.

  60. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    Personally I’m tired of the free for all when it comes to the media – about time they had to think before going off. When I entered dentistry at the U of Toronto, we were all told immediately that our being there was a privilege, and that privilege could be removed – I concur.

  61. mick January 1st, 2014 at 2:55 pm

    Hullabaloo!

  62. Can of Corn January 1st, 2014 at 2:55 pm

    49ers definitely have the best defense between the 2. Rodgers makes the Packers a very dangerous team but imo Kaepernick has regressed this year at QB, possible a learning curve and or opposing defenses have adjusted somewhat to him.

    49ers 24 Packers 21

  63. mick January 1st, 2014 at 2:55 pm

    Personally I’m tired of the free for all when it comes to the media
    ===============
    Be like me and don’t read anything but what you see on the blog.

  64. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 2:57 pm

    I left dentistry in ’97. I was in active practice between ’91 till then. Thank goddess I got out.

  65. tomingeorgia January 1st, 2014 at 3:00 pm

    Kornfield County.

  66. RhapsodyInBlue January 1st, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    A few weeks ago I watched Kaepernick on the run throw the ball like a laser downfield for about 60-70 yards.

    Just an amazing athlete.

  67. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 3:03 pm

    Yeah, Tom, the Bruins just couldn’t get it done when Kate sang. ( And you know how I feel about Orr )

  68. Sock Puppet January 1st, 2014 at 3:04 pm

    Hooopie ! ! Happy New Year !

  69. bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 3:05 pm

    Look, I probably know more about emails than any reporter involved is this stupid Levine-Arod story. If you are an attorney who does what I do, you probably spend 75% of your time going through emails. They make or break litigation. They are incredibly valuable and also incredibly ambiguous. Are you guys familiar with threads? You know, replies, to replies, to CCs, to BCCs, to more replies, to forwards etc. Threads can go on forever. Who’s to say that this idiot in NY Mag didn’t rip out one email from a much larger thread so he can show Levine talking about Cano and roids?

    Shame on you Chad for posting this. Just because everyone else does doesn’t make it right. Remember what your mom said when you told her that you ditched school because “everyone else did?”

  70. tomingeorgia January 1st, 2014 at 3:05 pm

    Orr was the best player I ever saw (and I used to be a hockey fan back in the 8-team days), but nobody could beat Kate!

  71. Can of Corn January 1st, 2014 at 3:09 pm

    I have the NFL Sunday Ticket and watch all the Niners games, he just seems like he was more explosive and in tune with the offense last year.

    A great athlete yes, but his overall passing stats dropped off significantly this year. That can jump up and bite you in the do or die scenario of the playoffs. Should be a good game

  72. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    Tom, on that day, nobody could beat Bernie Parent mon ami!

  73. Tar January 1st, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    “Shame on you Chad for posting this. ”

    Dan you seem to be on a one man stop the publication of emails campaign. My feelings are if you are dumb enough to email someone something dumb….then you deserve the punishment or ridicule.

    To get on Chad for linking the story….. is weak and not based on any reality of the situation.

    Also how do you know it wasn’t Alex who sent the Emails to the NY York Magazine? Would that change your opinion of the “idiots” who published them?

  74. tomingeorgia January 1st, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    Dawgs failed, Gamecox just went ahead. Can I hope for a break even?

  75. Sock Puppet January 1st, 2014 at 3:32 pm

    Blog Cop …………. Putz !

  76. tomingeorgia January 1st, 2014 at 3:34 pm

    oscar sierra oscar delta on the SC game.

  77. Tar January 1st, 2014 at 3:49 pm

    Putz that got you banned WCYF. HAHAHA

    Funny I saw your ‘sock puppet” that trash so aptly named conversing with him today…I wonder if she even had a clue.

  78. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 4:07 pm

    My daughter is over the moon that I’m getting a pink yankees hat for her. Shout out to chicken_stanley for sourcing!

  79. Tar January 1st, 2014 at 4:12 pm

    I meant Trish

  80. bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 4:17 pm

    Tar January 1st, 2014 at 3:21 pm
    “Shame on you Chad for posting this. ”

    Dan you seem to be on a one man stop the publication of emails campaign. My feelings are if you are dumb enough to email someone something dumb….then you deserve the punishment or ridicule.

    To get on Chad for linking the story….. is weak and not based on any reality of the situation.

    Also how do you know it wasn’t Alex who sent the Emails to the NY York Magazine? Would that change your opinion of the “idiots” who published them?

    ___________

    If I’m on a campaign Tar, it’s a campaign to demonstrate just how low journalism has sunk to in this country, a mission in which fortunately I am not alone. This is just another outlandish example of the depths of journalism’s current demise. Chad is not a leader here, just a follower. But what’s even worse, is how folks fawn all over these silly contemporaneously thought/written messages as if they contain some mysterious insight without recognizing that you are enabling activity that threatens our freedom as Americans. Like they used to say in the 60s, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

    Funny you mentioned where the emails came from. That was my first question when I saw this article. Did you read the original article about the Biogenesis investigation? If you had, you know they didn’t come from Arod haha!

  81. blake January 1st, 2014 at 4:20 pm

    RIP James Avery (Uncle Phil). That stinks

  82. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West January 1st, 2014 at 4:26 pm

    http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs.....nd-tanaka/

    Interesting article on proposals to win Tanaka over

  83. luis January 1st, 2014 at 4:31 pm

    Hello guys,

    I hope that you all received 2014 in a very good way…Personally, I am very happy that 2013 is over..About Ubaldo Jimenez, no way guys… His WHIP has been north of 1.3 for three straight seasons. His ERA+ has been below average for the past three seasons, with the exception of 2013 where he had an ERA+ of 114…He is already 29, so I think what you see is what he is …Another AJ Burnett, which means another back of the rotation pitcher in NYS…The only positive is his HR/9 rate which is low (0,8 in 2013), but is bound to come up once he comes to our park.. So thanks but no thanks.

    About Arod’s suspension… I just want it to be over so we have some certainty of what lies ahead… Levine is a moron, and those e-mails just prove it beyond any reasonable doubt…But I am with bigdan on this…E-mails should be private, but in this day and age that seems to be more and more hard to achieve

  84. bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 4:34 pm

    Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West January 1st, 2014 at 4:26 pm
    http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs…..nd-tanaka/

    Interesting article on proposals to win Tanaka over

    __________

    Good article. And it explains partly why I think the Cubs will beat out the Yanks here.

    “All in” doesn’t just mean a very strong monetary offer. It means the whole organization working in unison. The way the Yanks got Reggie. I don’t see that happening here with Tanaka. This organization is divided now. Probably has been since George passed. While they will go very hard for Tanaka, that division will most likely weaken the overall approach and allow Tanaka to slip to the Cubs.

    Really hope I’m wrong though. I’d offer him a 10/180 right off the bat if I were in charge.

  85. luis January 1st, 2014 at 4:37 pm

    bigdan,

    The Yankees organization has been a very dysfunctional one for quite a bit… Even when the boss was around (remember the famous feuds between the Tampa faction and the NY faction?)… But Hal is worse, he has given too much power to people that know squat about baseball…

  86. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 4:41 pm

    1987, Frank Tanana broke me in two on that final day. Flanagan was great for me. Fernandez was out after Bill ” mad dog ” Madlock slid hard into Tony a week prior at second – broke Tony’s elbow. Whitt was also hurt. I’m glad the Twins won that year.

  87. bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 4:43 pm

    bigdan,

    The Yankees organization has been a very dysfunctional one for quite a bit… Even when the boss was around (remember the famous feuds between the Tampa faction and the NY faction?)… But Hal is worse, he has given too much power to people that know squat about baseball

    ________

    You are right about that Luis. I think the Boss actually fostered the dissension between Tampa and NY. For some strange reason he thought that was good. Like having your own lineman fight on the practice field before a big football game.

    But when he wanted a player, there was no dissension in the ranks. Everybody fell in line. Or else.

  88. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West January 1st, 2014 at 4:50 pm

    Bigdan

    I agree completely. No out of the box thinking on the Yankees part at all. Their all about the money. I’d like to see them change their way of thinking.

  89. Tar January 1st, 2014 at 4:54 pm

    Dan

    I am probably closer to your position on “Journalism” than you think. But unless the emails are hacked, or obtained illegally they are fair game. And unless you are taking the whole sordid affair into account, I do not think these emails are in anyway an example of “how far jounalism has sunk”

    Also contrary to what you say they do give us outsiders a glimpse..in this case that Levine is as stupid as we thought. ALex comes across in this emails as fine, Levine as the dolt that he is thats what leads me to believes that it was his camp that released them.

  90. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    is it just me or does it seem like everybody’s played arod for a fool here?

    his lawyers had him walk out on his appeal and are now filing lawsuits which have little chance of winning.
    at a huge cost to arod.

    the strategy is very unlikely to work in the arbitration hearing and even less likely to work in the courts.

    and in the process, the waters have been poisoned with the yankees, mlb and even with the mlbpa.

    seems like a negotiated suspension last year could have been over by june of this year and the yankees would have begrudgingly let him play out his contract, as they did last year due to the lack of other options.

    very poorly played, imo.

  91. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    If you guys don’t think that the Yankees will do everything in their power to reel in Tanaka I believe you’d be wrong.

    There isn’t any thing or touch that the Cubs can offer that the Yankees haven’t done in their sleep in the past.

    If the money is close between the Cubs an the Yankees I see no way Tanaka would go there.

    Absolutely none.

    They are on the fast train to nowhere and playing for the Cubs is certainly not exposing yourself to
    the kind of competition Tanaka says he wants.

    Now the Dodgers. That might worry me.

    ;)

  92. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 4:57 pm

    As an example.

    Just look at the lengths they went to in order to sign CC.

    I rest my case.

    This isn’t the Yankees 1st big Rodeo. They are better at it than most.

    ;)

  93. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 4:59 pm

    i think you’re overlooking the fact that the #1 fact of the cubs is losing. it’s their identity.

    if a young kid in japan knows one thing about the cubs, it is that they are losers.

    i can’t see him going to the cubs unless they outbid everyone by a long shot.

  94. bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 4:59 pm

    Bigdan

    I agree completely. No out of the box thinking on the Yankees part at all. Their all about the money. I’d like to see them change their way of thinking.

    ________

    You get it Michelle. If you worked in an office at all, you realize how political a place like that can be. Even when someone with power says they are on board, it’s very easy for that person to subtly sabotage a group effort while secretly acting for their own interests. That’s where strong leadership at the top comes in. I don’t see that yet with Hal, but I could be wrong. No doubt the Cubs are totally vested in this thing.

  95. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 5:00 pm

    Don’t think a personal call from Kuroda or Ichiro wouldn’t help ?

    A guided tour of the Stadium and it’s superior facilities ?

    Use of the corporate jet ?

    The list goes on and on.

    The Cubs can’t touch it.

    ;)

  96. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 5:02 pm

    Y’s-

    I agree 1000 %.

    It would take a monster contract for the Cubs to come out victorious IMO.

    A huge overpay like Seattle.

    Could they do it ? Sure.

    Short of that they are exactly as you speak and only a fool would go there w/o huge money.

  97. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    Tanaka will never challenge himself playing for Cubs.

  98. luis January 1st, 2014 at 5:06 pm

    Y’s and MTU,

    Yes the Cubs have a losing tradition…But they are a very well ran organization nowadays…Bringing them in to the winning side of the equation might be very alluring to Tanaka… The Yankees on the other hand, are not being run very well…And although they have managed to add some pieces for the present, they are still a very old club with huge injury risks… They need to sell Tanaka a future of glory… On that regard, the Cubs are better positioned than the Yankees IMO…But they certainly can offer more money than the rest

  99. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 5:06 pm

    Wait a minute I take that back.

    Playing for the Cubs is a “challenge”.

    :)

  100. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West January 1st, 2014 at 5:07 pm

    Mtu-

    I think the yanks are more of the take it or leave it variety than the wine and dine sort. I’d prefer them to be a better mix of both.

  101. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 5:07 pm

    Luis-

    You can’t be serious.

    You’re still hung over Amigo.

    :)

  102. yankee21 January 1st, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    Only two things stopping the Yankees from landing Tanaka;

    1. A ridiculous offer (IMO, a value > 22/yr) from some team

    2. Themselves, an unwillingness to do what it takes to pay the market price.

    I would not begrudge the Yankees passing on him if things get out of control. OTOH if NY themselves will not pay the price then they will be open to criticism, big-time.

    They have the need, they have the resources and the timing is right. NY really has no excuses and certainly in comparison to the Cubs.

  103. mick January 1st, 2014 at 5:09 pm

    Resolution 1 for some of the blogophiles here should be not to take yourself so seriously.

    How do I know?

    I saw it in a fortune cookie…

  104. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 5:09 pm

    Michelle-

    Absolutely not true.

    I cited CC as a recent example.

    They went to extraordinary lengths to make him feel comfortable and that went way beyond just money.

    ;)

  105. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 5:10 pm

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    Song for gilles villeneuve by his kids, jacques and melanie. Jacques, you won Indy and F1, we’re all proud!

  106. luis January 1st, 2014 at 5:10 pm

    MTU January 1st, 2014 at 5:07 pm
    Luis-

    You can’t be serious.

    You’re still hung over Amigo.

    ============================

    LMAO!!! ;) Maybe, but the facts are the facts…They need to sell Tanaka a bright future ahead and on top of it throw a bunch of millions his way

  107. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 5:11 pm

    21-

    The Yankees are all in.

    Where Tanaka chooses to play is up to him.

    The Yankees can’t control everything.

    ;)

  108. bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 5:13 pm

    Tar January 1st, 2014 at 4:54 pm
    Dan

    I am probably closer to your position on “Journalism” than you think. But unless the emails are hacked, or obtained illegally they are fair game. And unless you are taking the whole sordid affair into account, I do not think these emails are in anyway an example of “how far jounalism has sunk”

    Also contrary to what you say they do give us outsiders a glimpse..in this case that Levine is as stupid as we thought. ALex comes across in this emails as fine, Levine as the dolt that he is thats what leads me to believes that it was his camp that released them.

    ___________

    I don’t think the emails that we’ve seen (remember, they are likely taken out of context for the improper purpose of the article in general which is laid out by the author in the first couple of sentences) make Levine look bad at all. Or stupid for that matter. As I’ve said before, on the scale of 1-10 on the embarrassing email scale, these rate about at 2. My staff and I along with hired contractors have reviewed millions of emails in litigation over the years. This is one area I am def an expert in.

    You don’t need to read his emails to know how dumb Levine is. That tampering comment about Trout was beyond dumb. Baseball executives for decades have been drilled to understand that you never, ever, ever, make a statement about a player under the control of another team, in jest or otherwise. People don’t get it here. It makes no difference that the comment was off-hand. In fact it makes it more credible. Levine told the world that if Trout were a free agent the Yanks would offer him a 10 year deal. That’s hugely valuable information to Trout and his agent. Why sign a 5 year extension now with the Angels? We know the Yanks will give out 10.

    That’s tampering, pure and simple and intentional because he meant what he said. If I were the commissioner I’d give the Angels one the Yanks draft choices for damn sure. You can not allow that ever to happen.

    Now that was really dumb.

  109. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 5:13 pm

    http://r6—sn-p5qlsu7d.c......&mv=m

    Sorry, I think the other link might be bad.

  110. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 5:14 pm

    Luis-

    I’ll help sober you up.

    The Yankees have won 27 championships.

    More than any other Team by far.

    The only thing the Cubs have sniffed are someone’s worn out jockstrap.

    Bright future ?

    Who do you think has been more serious about winning championships over the last 100 years ?

    Even goats don’t like the Cubs.

    :)

  111. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West January 1st, 2014 at 5:14 pm

    MTU

    One time, for one free agent, 5 years ago, doesn’t prove anything about how the front office runs at this point in time.

  112. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    Michelle-

    It proves they can bend over backwards when they want to.

    And in this case I very much think they want to.

    Guess we’ll see.

    By the way, I doubt CC was the only example of that in recent years.

    They literally stole Texeira away from the Sux. That wasn’t just money.

    I urge you to give these guys more credit.

    Only thing they can’t do is decide for Tanaka. they’ll do everything else.

    ;)

  113. yankee21 January 1st, 2014 at 5:19 pm

    MTU;

    Certainly it will come down to Tanaka’s own preference, however, at the end of the day, if NY shows the proper amount of “love” it will be really hard for Tanaka to blow that off and pitch for second best.

    OTOH, some guys just don’t like big city glare or in fact, NYC. Hopefully the NYY will have already sniffed that out if that is the case.

  114. luis January 1st, 2014 at 5:21 pm

    “I urge you to give these guys more credit”

    ======================================

    Always the optimist! I like that from you my friend ;)

    You give this “band of morons” too much credit (Not brothers! ;) ) They need Tanaka more than he needs us…I hope they realize that and act accordingly

  115. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 5:21 pm

    21-

    That is what I meant.

    Not everyone is built for the big stage and all the pressure that goes w it.

    There may be other considerations that are hard to match.

    For example, proximity to Japan.

    Or climate.

    Who knows. Money always helps grease the skids and I believe the Yankees will be there on that point.

    ;)

  116. bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    Tar January 1st, 2014 at 4:54 pm
    Dan

    I am probably closer to your position on “Journalism” than you think. But unless the emails are hacked, or obtained illegally they are fair game. And unless you are taking the whole sordid affair into account, I do not think these emails are in anyway an example of “how far jounalism has sunk”

    _________

    And lets be clear on what the problem is here. You need to read both articles. The first article was an excellent piece of investigative journalism. Emails were used appropriately in that article to show Arod’s communications with Bosch.

    The second article starts like, and I paraphrase, “I got a bunch emails laying around here from the article I published on Biogenesis a couple weeks ago. Some are pretty funny. Let me share them with you”

    Now if I’m an editor, and I see an article start off that way, and then bunch of random somewhat embarrassing emails follow, I go up to the writer and smack him upside the head and say “who the hell are you to use personal emails for the sole purpose of making fun of anybody.”

    And once again, why are others republishing the very same thing. If you don’t know how wrong that is, I don’t have anything else to say.

  117. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    mick January 1st, 2014 at 2:55 pm
    Personally I’m tired of the free for all when it comes to the media
    ===============
    Be like me and don’t read anything but what you see on the blog.
    ———-
    Don’t believe half of what you read, and don’t read the other half?

  118. Wave Your Hat January 1st, 2014 at 5:23 pm

    Happy New Year everyone!

    The Yanks’ New Year resolution has to be to sign Tanaka.

    Loved reading those e-mails. The early ones were an interesting look behind the scene. The later ones were probably written knowing they would become public. Levine’s later ones read like his lawyer wrote them.

  119. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 5:24 pm

    Luis-

    Have another drink. I’d buy you one if I was there.

    Calmate ! Tranquilo.

    Let’s see what happens.

    Anyway, Tanaka is not the only sushi in the Sea.

    ;)

  120. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West January 1st, 2014 at 5:24 pm

    Mtu

    I’ll agree to see how this plays out.

  121. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    Good idea Michelle.

    Just hope that no one pulls a Cano and throws crazy money at him.

    :)

  122. luis January 1st, 2014 at 5:30 pm

    Will do MTU…. Have a good one my friend ;)

    Later

  123. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 5:35 pm

    The Yankees have scouted Tanaka extensively for 2 years.

    Don’t think they are serious ?

    Guess again.

    :)

  124. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 5:39 pm

    The Yankees are better than most at knowing when they have a fish on the hook and when the line has broken.

    ;)

  125. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    I’m out for a while.

    I’ll be back.

  126. mick January 1st, 2014 at 5:47 pm

    all of the geniuses read on and satisfy your wretched existence by watching train wrecks unfold..

    as long as ppl slop up the garbage they will keep publishing it…

  127. Tar January 1st, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    “I don’t think the emails that we’ve seen (remember, they are likely taken out of context for the improper purpose of the article in general which is laid out by the author in the first couple of sentences) make Levine look bad at all. Or stupid for that matter. As I’ve said before, on the scale of 1-10 on the embarrassing email scale, these rate about at 2. My staff and I along with hired contractors have reviewed millions of emails in litigation over the years. This is one area I am def an expert in.”
    ——-

    Sorry I don’t care what kind of expert you are…those emails make Levine look dumb.

    “You don’t need to read his emails to know how dumb Levine is.”
    ——

    I agree, which is why I said the emails confirmed our thinking of his intelligence level.

    What are we arguing here exactly?

    “And lets be clear on what the problem is here. You need to read both articles. The first article was an excellent piece of investigative journalism. Emails were used appropriately in that article to show Arod’s communications with Bosch.

    I thought I was clear….. the article in question nor Chads link to it is anyway a good example of “how far Journalism has sunk”. Nor is it any kind of referendum on us losing our civil liberties.

    It is nothing more than a chess move in a sordid affair between two parties.

  128. Tar January 1st, 2014 at 5:51 pm

    “Loved reading those e-mails. The early ones were an interesting look behind the scene. The later ones were probably written knowing they would become public. Levine’s later ones read like his lawyer wrote them.”

    Happy New Year Wave.

    I agree and that was exactly my take on it as well.

  129. Tar January 1st, 2014 at 5:57 pm

    “The second article starts like, and I paraphrase, “I got a bunch emails laying around here from the article I published on Biogenesis a couple weeks ago. Some are pretty funny. Let me share them with you”

    Now if I’m an editor, and I see an article start off that way, and then bunch of random somewhat embarrassing emails follow, I go up to the writer and smack him upside the head and say “who the hell are you to use personal emails for the sole purpose of making fun of anybody.””

    That is not accurate. This is how the article prefaces the Emails:

    “In December 2007, Randy Levine, president of the New York Yankees, helped re-sign third-baseman Alex Rodriguez to a ten-year contract worth $275 million, which was, and still is, the richest contract in the history of professional sports. For Levine, it was a giant bet, an Empire State Building–size stack of chips on the possibility that A-Rod, by consensus the best hitter and all-around player in baseball, would add to the Yankees’ bulging shelf of championships while mounting a serious campaign to break the home-run record. For Rodriguez, the contract was both a recognition of his immense talent and an outlandish promise to keep. It goes without saying that, over the course of a Yankees tenure that included two MVP years and a world championship, numerous slumps and streaks, and a pair of drug scandals that have come to define his career as much as his talent has, the men would have much to talk about, which they did primarily via e-mail. In the course of reporting the magazine’s December 9, 2013, cover story (“Chasing A-Rod”), I viewed a trove of the electronic correspondence between Rodriguez and Levine, a selection of which is excerpted below.”

  130. RadioKev January 1st, 2014 at 6:07 pm

    Shame on you Chad for posting this. Just because everyone else does doesn’t make it right. Remember what your mom said when you told her that you ditched school because “everyone else did?”
    ——–

    Shame on you? He’s a journalist. This is now public record, and to not acknowledge it would be inappropriate. The President of the New York Yankees joking or suggesting, to a notorious steroid user, that their best player should be using, is news worthy.

  131. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    I think the more interesting story is who is leaking this info to the press. I thought it was to be sealed IIRC.

  132. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 6:21 pm

    i have no problem with chad posting the email quotes which have been published all over.

    I might have a problem with whoever leaked them unless they are somehow public record.

    In any event, they are rather mundane and of little to no value.

  133. pete2 January 1st, 2014 at 6:32 pm

    Bojo, yes, the more interesting story is who leaked the emails and what they hope to gain. Someone in the Yankees FO who presumably has access to all of Levines emails? Perhaps hoping to smear Cano (gone), Arod (hope him to be gone) and Levine (might be looking for his parachute now). Perhaps it was Arod ahead of his court case against MLB to show how lightly the Yankees brass treated steroid use and perhaps encouraged it (if you take the emails as more serious than as jokes). The latter seems unlikely since he could have introduced it as evidence without going public, and head of the arbitrators decision seems foolish.

    I do feel that most teams keep close tabs on their investments (players) through investigators and know who is using what, and given Canos offseason work outs with Cervelli and his close association with Ortiz, Melky and Arod and his bulking up the past couple of years it would not surprise me if Cano was using and the Yankees FO knew it, and that it was one reason for not resigning him for fear he stops using once he gets his big deal and turns into a chunky blob.

  134. Poetkiosk January 1st, 2014 at 6:32 pm

    At the very least, the emails reflect poorly on the Yankees as an organization. On one hand they publicly decry the use of steroids and are shocked to hear they may have players linked to them, and on the other hand they are privately encouraged their players to go get some more steroids.

    Also, Arod represents himself only. He is a player. Levine is the official representative of a multi-billion dollar organization. Levine looks like an amateur and Ard comes off sounding pretty human.

  135. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 6:39 pm

    Levine should stick to what he knows.

    It ain’t baseball.

    ;)

  136. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 6:42 pm

    pete2 January 1st, 2014 at 6:32 pm

    given Canos offseason work outs with Cervelli and his close association with Ortiz, Melky and Arod and his bulking up the past couple of years it would not surprise me if Cano was using and the Yankees FO knew it, and that it was one reason for not resigning him for fear he stops using once he gets his big deal and turns into a chunky blob.
    =============
    Funny you should mention that. I have always suspected something like that. I remember what a huge influence ARod had on both Melky and Cano, and wondered that for the past few years.

  137. mick January 1st, 2014 at 6:46 pm

    Levine should stick to what he knows.

    It ain’t baseball.
    ===============
    And that is exactly what tacopina wants the general public to think.

  138. mick January 1st, 2014 at 6:48 pm

    Funny you should mention that. I have always suspected something like that. I remember what a huge influence ARod had on both Melky and Cano, and wondered that for the past few years.
    ===========================
    But who are we to judge ;)

    Yanks handled it with class if this is the case.

    Unlike the other guy who is fighting for his life.

  139. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 6:49 pm

    Mick-

    When a guy steps on his own crank you just get out of the way.

    Sit back and watch the show.

  140. mick January 1st, 2014 at 6:50 pm

    Now that the holidays are over we can get back to the reality of what will be happening next and not the idle fantasy of what goes on in here.

  141. mick January 1st, 2014 at 6:52 pm

    When a guy steps on his own crank you just get out of the way.

    Sit back and watch the show.
    =====================
    That goes for arod as well , right?

  142. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 6:53 pm

    Mick-

    Oh yeah.

    He’s no stranger to foot in mouth disease.

  143. mick January 1st, 2014 at 6:55 pm

    If the arod camp released that to influence horowitz, well i hope he has more integrity than that.
    If it’s for the general pop consumption I don’t think it serves any purpose.
    Most fans just want the yanks to win and if arod plays they root for him.

  144. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    “Besides the somewhat concerning drug references in regards to Robbie I see nothing wrong with what Levine wrote. He’s quite supportive at first and then defensive when ARod accuses the Yankees of aiding & abetting the MLB investigation which sounds pretty bogus anyway. Did I read he got that info from his cousin? If so, that pretty much shoots that theory down.”

    Seriously. I think some people feel they have an obligation to go immediately negative when they see the name “Levine”.

    While I have no idea who leaked the emails, reading the chronology makes me think that Arod got it out there because I think he is a snake and probably tried to smoke out Levine by lying about what he purportedly heard.

    It would also serve Arod more to leak emails where “Cano should be using something ha ha” is mentioned. It would hardly serve Levine to leak that.

    Admittedly, I think of Arod as low as a snake’s belly, a conniver, liar, and egocentric piece of refuse who would willingly screw over anyone to get what he wants. So I look at anything and everything having to do with him with a jaundiced eye. That said, those emails, while stupid to even talk about, seem to benefit Arod’s side more than Levine’s. So I would doubt Levine put them out.

    I don’t know anything about Randy Levine that causes me to have suspicion about everything he does and question his motives. Seems to me that he hasn’t skulked around like a sneaky rat, trying to get away with things. Arod, on the other hand, has made it an art form.

  145. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 6:58 pm

    If not for the public outcry and a Congress that wanted to look like it was doing something, I suspect team owners would be handing out steroids to players like they did greenies–in order to put a better product on the field. I have for some time felt the MLB has acted with incredible hypocrisy in pursuing ARod.

  146. bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 7:06 pm

    Tar January 1st, 2014 at 5:57 pm

    “The second article starts like, and I paraphrase, “I got a bunch emails laying around here from the article I published on Biogenesis a couple weeks ago. Some are pretty funny. Let me share them with you”

    Now if I’m an editor, and I see an article start off that way, and then bunch of random somewhat embarrassing emails follow, I go up to the writer and smack him upside the head and say “who the hell are you to use personal emails for the sole purpose of making fun of anybody.””

    That is not accurate. This is how the article prefaces the Emails:

    “. . . .In the course of reporting the magazine’s December 9, 2013, cover story (“Chasing A-Rod”), I viewed a trove of the electronic correspondence between Rodriguez and Levine, a selection of whichTar January 1st, 2014 at 5:57 pm”

    ______

    Not accurate, really? That last sentence introduces the emails. The stuff of the story is the emails. What he writes before the sentence I copied is not news. That’s all been reported dozens of times before. We all know Levine and Arod have a history. What’s new here is the actual emails themselves. Moreover, the author obviously selects only those emails he finds interesting which itself is problematic. Because what exactly do those emails prove? That Levine and Arod have a relationship? That they chatted in a friendly manner about games played? That later they became less friendly? Is that interesting to anyone? Use your head here. He picked those emails because they would embarrass the parties concerned through the language used. They contain absolutely nothing of substance.

    This is the point, which you obviously miss. Before you publish anyone’s private emails, which in itself is an invasion of privacy, good journalistic practices requires that you must establish that you are using them to show something newsworthy. It must prove something at issue to the public or is otherwise informational in a non-marginal way. What important information did these emails disclose? Did Levine really suggest Cano use steroids in the email? Even the author says that was a joke, so why did he include that email other than to embarrass Levine. Embarrassment, gossip and the like are not a basis for publishing private email invading individual privacy. But in this voyeuristic culture of ours you and others think you have the right to peek beneath the sheets. None of these emails are part of any public record. At least not yet. Arbitrations are private. Perhaps in the civil matter, these emails will become public in an appropriate manner. Re-publishing libelous statements doesn’t diminish a defamation claim and neither does republishing private facts immunize the privacy invader.

    But the real point here is how few people understand that this wrong. That’s how far standards have fallen. Way too much Honey Boo Boo I guess.

  147. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 7:09 pm

    I don’t know if the files were leaked by ARod, or (I suspect) part of the evidence gathered by investigators for MLB. That is why I mentioned that I thought that evidence was supposed to be sealed. The article mentioned that the reporter read through tons of material related to case, so I suspect he got a source to let him see the investigator files. Just a hunch though.

  148. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    Hopefully this whole sad mess will be over real soon.

    ;)

  149. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 7:06 pm

    ====
    Honey Boo Boo hates you now.

    (I bet some saw that coming.)

  150. pat January 1st, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    Horowitz’s decision, ” is expected to be delivered in the form of an e-mail to all parties involved in the arbitration.”

    Using smileys would be bad form.

  151. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 7:15 pm

    Interesting post on MLBTR concerning whether Craig Kimbrel arbitration decision will force Braves to consider trading him because he will get too much money. That guy is amazing.

  152. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 7:15 pm

    Of course it’s wrong! It is a total invasion of privacy. There is nothing in them that is newsworthy in the least, and anyone who believes that Levine would seriously recommend steroid use to a player, well I can’t say little enough about the mental capacity of anyone who would actually believe that. This is the real world, not a broadway play, and on top of big totally aware of Congress’s edict on steroid use, Levine is an attorney. Be real.

  153. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 7:16 pm

    pat January 1st, 2014 at 7:12 pm
    Horowitz’s decision, ” is expected to be delivered in the form of an e-mail to all parties involved in the arbitration.”

    Using smileys would be bad form.
    ====
    I suppose all parties will read about it first in New York Magazine.

  154. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 7:18 pm

    Bojo, unless I’m reading the tea leaves incorrectly, the party in this arbitration deepest in the soup is not the MLB. Therefore, there would be little incentive for them to leak anything.

  155. bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 7:19 pm

    BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 7:12 pm
    bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 7:06 pm

    ====
    Honey Boo Boo hates you now.

    (I bet some saw that coming.)

    ________

    I actually turned that show on once a couple years ago by mistake. I had never heard of it or knew what it was about. Watched it for about 5 minutes. I had nightmares for like 5 weeks.

  156. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 7:20 pm

    Trish–it wouldn’t have to be someone from either side….could be a court administrator who got paid off, couldn’t it? Person just has to have had access to the files,,,which might have been digitized for easy transfer.

  157. bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    If you want to focus on real probative emails, read the first NY mag article on the investigation. There’s a few emails there between Bosch and Arod talking about “food.” From what I’ve seen to date, that was the best evidence yet that Arod was juicing and actively trying to avoid detection.

  158. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 7:19 pm

    I actually turned that show on once a couple years ago by mistake. I had never heard of it or knew what it was about. Watched it for about 5 minutes. I had nightmares for like 5 weeks.
    ==========
    O believe the AMA recommends burning your eyes out as well as a lobotomy to get over the post Boo Boo encounters trauma.

  159. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    Crazy that as I am writing this, I have on one of the MLB programs I taped, the 2013 top 20 ejections, and they are on #12 – the ejections in the games where Arod was hit by Dempster.

    Just bye the bye!

  160. blake January 1st, 2014 at 7:24 pm

    @jcrasnick: Mark Mulder has agreed to minor league deal with #angels with big league invite. Story to come on http://t.co/oxlrUIYoY0.

  161. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 7:25 pm

    Another interesting article from MLBTR yesterday discussed the best transactions of 2013. A few of them were teams granting extensions to players like CarGo that produced tremendous savings. This is a different baseball environment than when George owned the team, and I think it is about time that the team ended its policy of not granting extensions before a player hits free agency. They should extend DRob and Nova early.

  162. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 7:26 pm

    And extend Gardner too.

  163. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 7:27 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 7:22 pm
    Crazy that as I am writing this, I have on one of the MLB programs I taped, the 2013 top 20 ejections, and they are on #12 – the ejections in the games where Arod was hit by Dempster.
    ============
    More interesting would be the 2013 top 20 injections…ARod is in top ten.

  164. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 7:30 pm

    Bojo, sure you could be right, but since what the writer referenced is only the “trove” of electronic emails between Levine and Arod, I would think that it would make more sense that they were supplied by Levine or Arod – both off whom have acess to their own emails. A court administrator would certainly have more inflammatory or salacious material to give up.

    If I am correct, I go back to say that thought the emails are pretty benign and tame, they certainly seem to seek to put Levine in the more embarrassing position with Arod appearing to take the high ground. Now in reality they don’t appear that at all, but in Arod’s distorted mind, I can see him thinking that the emails would make Levine look bad and him look like the injured party. MO

  165. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 7:31 pm

    Number 3 is Ortiz smashing the phone in the Orioles dugout without ramification.

    He’s not favored by the commissioner’s office, mind you.

    Cannot wait until Bud the thief is back on his car lot.

  166. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 7:32 pm

    Boji, I see that you’re on board with Jiminez too. I sure hope he’s in pinstripes next season, but I also hope that it’s not for a ridiculous number of years.

  167. mick January 1st, 2014 at 7:36 pm

    Jiminez or bust?
    He’s a crapshoot like any other pitcher these days not named Kershaw.
    It all depends on what they do and need.
    I would be content with Tanaka and letting the 5th starter come from one of our own.

  168. Tar January 1st, 2014 at 7:38 pm

    “This is the point, which you obviously miss.”

    Dan whatever. You talk around in circles and say exactly nothing. And than of course comes the flippant remark which in a short time here you quickly becoming famous for.

    These are my points:

    This is not a good example of Journalism gone wrong.

    Chad is not some child that needs reprimanding from you for posting a link to the article. ( “remember what your mom said” Are you kidding?)

    This article is also not a reflection or example of my civil liberties being stomped upon.

    Levine does look dumb and I would personally fire any expert who hired that tried to sell me something different.

  169. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 7:39 pm

    I am now starting to watch the Top 40 LCS Moments in Baseball History. I don’t remember every exciting moment in every LCS game ever, but I am telling you that if Aaron Bleepin’ Boone is number one, they better have some PHENOMENAL UNFORGETTABLE moment as number one. I think I will fast forward to #1 just to see.

  170. chicken_stanley January 1st, 2014 at 7:40 pm

    Good evening all.

    Does anyone know what date the HOF inductees are announced? I heard on MLB radio that the Arod decision wouldn’t likely be announced during the period between 2-3 before the announcements thru 2-3 days after

  171. bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    I apologize because I forgot who said this, but someone the other day pointed out that if the Yanks don’t land Tanaka it becomes kind of a bizarre off season. They lost their best player, signed a bunch of high profile guys, but don’t appear to be better than last year. Different but not clearly better.

    Tanaka is key. I don’t care who computes all that WAR stuff. And aggregation certainly doesn’t work there but I could really see Tanaka being the difference between a 82-83 win team and a 90+ win team that can earnestly compete for the division. I think he’d quickly become their ace which would result in a cascade of improvement down through the rest of the rotation and the bullpen. And the excitement level for the franchise would be the highest in the last several years. Forget about ratings, they’d shoot through the roof.

    This would be the most important acquisition since Reggie.

  172. blake January 1st, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    “Levine does look dumb and I would personally fire any expert who hired that tried to sell me something different.”

    Levine must really make them a lot of money…..otherwise I for see how they have kept him around this long

  173. bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    Tar January 1st, 2014 at 7:38 pm

    “This is the point, which you obviously miss.”

  174. Bronx Jeers January 1st, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    Seriously. I think some people feel they have an obligation to go immediately negative when they see the name “Levine”.

    ———–

    Agreed. And I’m not even really a big fan of his. Honestly I was a bit surprised at his geniality in the exchanges.

  175. blake January 1st, 2014 at 7:48 pm

    “I apologize because I forgot who said this, but someone the other day pointed out that if the Yanks don’t land Tanaka it becomes kind of a bizarre off season. They lost their best player, signed a bunch of high profile guys, but don’t appear to be better than last year. Different but not clearly better.”

    Agreed…..right now the offense is better but the pitching is worse so to me they really haven’t improved overall yet. Tanaka and Balfour would change that

  176. tbone1570 January 1st, 2014 at 7:48 pm

    chicken,

    Jan 8th is when the results are announced

  177. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    #3 is Chris Chambliss HR

    AARON BLEEPIN BOONE IS #2. And OMG, I feel like it was just yesterday. Just watching it again made me tear up!!!

    (MLB acknowledges that people might think that Boone should have been number one moment)

    And number 1 is – 1992 NLCS, Game 7 – winning hit by Francisco Cabrera.

    MEH.

  178. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    I suppose they’re not going to put Fred McGriff in the hall, I do.

  179. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    Munson hit a massive HR vs KC

  180. bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    I will say this though. And this is my last thought (for now). I take satisfaction that many folks on this site (and this may be the only place in the blogosphere where this was debated) took the time to seriously look at an issue that is too often being ignored. People are so “enthralled” by “the scoop” or gossip or embarrassing information that they ignore what took place to obtain that information and whether the exercise itself was a good thing. As I pointed out earlier, email and all forms of electronic communication and how it’s obtained, reviewed and disclosed are right at the center of a great debate now in the context of the Snowden matter. The power of technology, the role of media and our individual rights are all at stake.

    So stay tuned and “stay thirsty my friends.”

  181. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 7:59 pm

    i suspect tacopina. but it could have been anybody.

  182. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 8:00 pm

    I was always for Blylevan, and I’m for Jim Kaat too.

  183. chicken_stanley January 1st, 2014 at 8:00 pm

    Thanks tbone.

  184. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 8:01 pm

    “Agreed. And I’m not even really a big fan of his. Honestly I was a bit surprised at his geniality in the exchanges.”

    I’m waiting to hear what about him is “not really a big fan” worthy. I’m not saying there isn’t anything. I see a lot of crying and crabbing and his name mentioned between teardrops, but I truly don’t know exactly what he’s done to warrant the disdain. There may be something. But if it’s as trite as people not liking the role he’s assumed in the Yankees, then I say get a life.

    ***********

    Dan, you are right on the money about the standards dropping out of the bottom. We exist in a me-first, self-serving society, where the self entitlement of people who have come to believe they have the right to see and touch whatever they damn well please is really out of control. People know no boundaries, and they respect little. Is it any wonder the United States of America, once the leading country in the world, has been shuttled to the side and has become little more than a punch line? Cheating is excused in the name of winning. Tell me those are standards to be emulated.

  185. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 8:01 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 7:32 pm
    Boji, I see that you’re on board with Jiminez too. I sure hope he’s in pinstripes next season, but I also hope that it’s not for a ridiculous number of years.
    ===
    Yes indeedy!

  186. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 8:03 pm

    I wonder how many Stieb would win on steroids.

  187. mick January 1st, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    How do we know how true the Levine arod emails are? If not completely made up or at least doctored up, it wouldn’t be surprising.
    It all comes under the heading of “Who Cares.”
    This was not an innocent scoop on anything or breaking news.
    The timing indicates someone had a motive and which camp do you think needed one?

  188. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    Its always been a topic of interest for me, naturally – Stieb vs Morris

  189. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    dude on stanford (Murphy) just sacked Michigan States QB in the rose bowl and then helped him back up.

    LOVE the old school sportsmanship! :)

  190. chicken_stanley January 1st, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    My guess is there’s a small possibilty the Arod decision breaks on Friday 1/3… if not then, its likely Monday 1/13

  191. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    I hope the home runs by Broscius and Tino were on there too….last of ninth blasts against DBacks pitcher…and Broscius off Hoffman too.

  192. mick January 1st, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    Of course, you believe what you want to believe or not at all.
    Can’t help thinking that your bias compells you to believe anything arod’s camp slops out there
    and that is pathetic.

  193. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    until i know something about where those emails came from and how they became public, i really can’t get very upset about them.

    frankly, they’re very boring.

  194. tbone1570 January 1st, 2014 at 8:08 pm

    no problem chicken :)

  195. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 8:09 pm

    I hate to say it, but the rapid advance of technology has really hurt society in a number of ways. One way being the demise of the newspaper industry, and with it, the demise of the vetting of story process. Time to market now is the most important thing to win eyeballs and ad money, and truth and credibility have suffered as a result.

  196. mick January 1st, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    The emails were a billable item so there’s another angle.

  197. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    if levine’s emails were written on a Yankee’s computer or sent via his Yankees email, they likely belong to the Yankees, not levine. I’m not even sure how much privacy protection if any attaches to them at this point.

  198. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    “Jiminez or bust?
    He’s a crapshoot like any other pitcher these days not named Kershaw.
    It all depends on what they do and need.
    I would be content with Tanaka and letting the 5th starter come from one of our own.”

    mick, I could easily live with Tanaka and one of our own. I think I like living on the edge, and I am excited by the thought of having a pitcher like Jiminez (Jiminez at his best of course.) I like risk, too!

    We all know that having a team stacked top to bottom is no guarantee of anything. (The 2011 Sux say hi for the umpteenth time!)

    But my glass is always at least half full, so I say bring it on, whatever it is! I root for the most storied franchise in the history of organized sports. The names Ruth, Gehrig, Mantle, DiMaggio, Maris, Berra, Dickey, Ford, RIVERA!, and so many others go through my mind and I am overwhelmed with awe and gratitude. I don’t need to be pacified on a yearly basis in order to root my brains out and still feel gratitude no matter the outcome. This is the team that I live and die with, and the honor of rooting for them causes my cup to runneth over. Sappy, I don’t care. It’s truth.

  199. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    1992 was a hard year for, Stieb. He was hurt while he watched Morris get run support galore on his way to a Jay’s pitcher getting to 20 for the first time. In my books, there is nobody else who deserved that WS ring more than Sir David – the guy who got us anywhere close to there to begin with.

  200. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 8:12 pm

    jmills January 1st, 2014 at 8:03 pm
    I wonder how many Stieb would win on steroids.
    ====
    Probably not that many….if any. After all, he is 56 years old.

  201. mick January 1st, 2014 at 8:12 pm

    I hate to say it, but the rapid advance of technology has really hurt society in a number of ways.
    ======================
    Why do you hate to admit it?
    It’s true.
    People have the attention spans of fleas …handheld devices are akin to children playing Mario Bros.

  202. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 8:12 pm

    what if arod has a yankees email account and levine was on his yankees email. wouldn’t the yankees be free to publish or leak them to anyone in that case, since they belong to them?

  203. bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 8:14 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 8:01 pm
    “Agreed. And I’m not even really a big fan of his. Honestly I was a bit surprised at his geniality in the exchanges.”

    I’m waiting to hear what about him is “not really a big fan” worthy. I’m not saying there isn’t anything. I see a lot of crying and crabbing and his name mentioned between teardrops, but I truly don’t know exactly what he’s done to warrant the disdain. There may be something. But if it’s as trite as people not liking the role he’s assumed in the Yankees, then I say get a life.

    ***********

    Dan, you are right on the money about the standards dropping out of the bottom. We exist in a me-first, self-serving society, where the self entitlement of people who have come to believe they have the right to see and touch whatever they damn well please is really out of control. People know no boundaries, and they respect little. Is it any wonder the United States of America, once the leading country in the world, has been shuttled to the side and has become little more than a punch line? Cheating is excused in the name of winning. Tell me those are standards to be emulated.

    ———–

    You just got to keep trying to fight the good fight Trish. I have a bit of a Wall Street background. The undercurrent there has been “if you’re not cheating, you’re not trying.” I spend endless hours trying to get my clients to believe good compliance is good business because in the end it reduces risk, litigation risk and reputational risk. It’s a hard battle though because when times are good, there’s just so much money on the table. And when times are bad, they all scatter like mice until the tables turn and they are back at it again. I feel that is happening again now.

    I believe in freedom though. And that’s why I’ve been very hard on the media the last few years. We need them. We need them desperately. But they have to look at themselves in the mirror and ask themselves whether they are being true to their own principles. Can they go home every night and be proud of what they’ve accomplished. Can they continue to justify their special place in a free society. Are they willing to sacrifice their own self-interest for truth and fairness and the pure desire to inform. And do they remember what this county stands for and why they became who they are.

  204. mick January 1st, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    wouldn’t the yankees be free to publish or leak them to anyone in that case, since they belong to them
    =============
    Why would the Yanks leak that pap?

  205. Tar January 1st, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    “Cheating is excused in the name of winning. Tell me those are standards to be emulated.”

    And Presidents of the most prestigious name in all of history sports, is inquiring from one star player as to why another one of his star players is not cheating.

    So naive as to who the real cheaters are.

  206. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    “I hate to say it, but the rapid advance of technology has really hurt society in a number of ways. One way being the demise of the newspaper industry, and with it, the demise of the vetting of story process. Time to market now is the most important thing to win eyeballs and ad money, and truth and credibility have suffered as a result.”

    That is a FLIPPING BINGO! You talk about a double-edged sword. A study was done that found that Facebook users were more depressed than those who didn’t use Facebook, with the reason being that the impersonal contact left them feeling empty. Social media has brought with it a lot of negative side effects because it has removed the face-to-face contact and replaced it with more impersonal communication. The advance of technology could very well spell the end of society as we have known it – and not in a good way.

    So happy my dad’s not around to see what the world has become.

  207. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 8:14 pm

    I believe in freedom though. And that’s why I’ve been very hard on the media the last few years. We need them. We need them desperately.
    ——–
    The industry has been changed by the Internet. We may never have what we once had,

  208. tomingeorgia January 1st, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    OK,
    Had my black eyed peas, my collard greens and my herring on New Year’s Day. Good to go, and this Levine business concerns me not at all. He saved them a ton on the new stadium, which is why he’s there.

  209. Bronx Jeers January 1st, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    Well, from a customer standpoint, dealing with the Yankees can be like dealing with your cable company and he’s kind of the face (with Trost) of that “money grubbing bunch of sc*mb*gs” side of the org. And he’s always popping up to do interviews on TV. Manager, GM and owner. To me those are the only mgmt members that should be heard from. I couldn’t name the president of any other pro sports team in NY.

  210. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    who knows, perhaps levine wanted some particular fact out in the public. that is just as likely as arod’s side wanting something from that to be in public.

    my point though was that there is not necesarily any invasion of anyone’s privacy here.

    we dont know enough about those emails at this point to assume there is any expectation of privacy with these emails.

  211. Tar January 1st, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    “And that’s why I’ve been very hard on the media the last few years.”

    Perhaps you should bring some litigation against all those bad journalist, that will show them. Maybe you should take a long hard look at your own industry, before you go condemning others.

  212. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    “And Presidents of the most prestigious name in all of history sports, is inquiring from one star player as to why another one of his star players is not cheating.”

    Seems like you’re one of the few who has spoken about it and didn’t see it as a joke.

    Since neither of us can know for sure what his intentions were, I can tell you as an attorney that no attorney would be putting something like that in an email to a player, even if he were inclined to hope his players would cheat. And we’re not talking a run-of-the-mill schlock attorney who doesn’t know his way around – we’re talking about the attorney for the New York Yankees, someone extremely cognizant of the edict’s of Congress and MLB. That dog just doesn’t hunt, no matter how much you may hate Randy Levine.

  213. mick January 1st, 2014 at 8:22 pm

    You’ve got to drop the agenda and stop being all arod all the time in the name of hypocrisy by the establishment.
    That went out in the 60′s.
    Why tacopina is trying to motivate public opinion by leaking phony emails is beyond me.
    Maybe he knows they don’t have the evidence they purport to have and wants some credit for a reduced sentence, but I’m not a lawyer..

  214. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    Believe me, I have my woes with this tech thing, but it did bring me you guys, no? I’m going with the Derridean argument over this one, that you can’t know one parameter without identifying the other; hence, there are some enjoyable merits over this computer crap.

  215. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 8:19 pm
    we dont know enough about those emails at this point to assume there is any expectation of privacy with these emails.
    ====
    I just checked…they weren’t conversing on their Facebook accounts.

  216. Bronx Jeers January 1st, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    He saved them a ton on the new stadium, which is why he’s there

    ——————–

    Saved them money on the taxpayers backs.

  217. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 8:24 pm

    i love the information age. And i was out of HS before computers (and even calculators) appeared in school.

    i have some problems with current privacy issues but that’s natural in an area of such rapid change.

    but the ready availability of information is a very positive thing imo. so is communication mobility.

  218. bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 8:24 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 8:15 pm
    “I hate to say it, but the rapid advance of technology has really hurt society in a number of ways. One way being the demise of the newspaper industry, and with it, the demise of the vetting of story process. Time to market now is the most important thing to win eyeballs and ad money, and truth and credibility have suffered as a result.”

    That is a FLIPPING BINGO! You talk about a double-edged sword. A study was done that found that Facebook users were more depressed than those who didn’t use Facebook, with the reason being that the impersonal contact left them feeling empty. Social media has brought with it a lot of negative side effects because it has removed the face-to-face contact and replaced it with more impersonal communication. The advance of technology could very well spell the end of society as we have known it – and not in a good way.

    So happy my dad’s not around to see what the world has become

    __________

    Sometime comics are the smartest people on the planet. If you ever get a chance (I’m not sure if it’s on youtube), but right before he died, George Carlin did an interview about a lot of topics. One thing that stayed with me was when he said he wasn’t optimistic about the future. He said people believe technology solves society’s problems but he now believes it’s become just the opposite. It was a pretty amazing interview.

  219. mick January 1st, 2014 at 8:24 pm

    who knows, perhaps levine wanted some particular fact out in the public. that is just as likely as arod’s side wanting something from that to be in public.
    =================================
    i can’t think of one reason why levine or the fo would put that out.

  220. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 8:27 pm

    “You just got to keep trying to fight the good fight Trish.”

    Dan, I am so thankful that there are still many of us out there trying. Any time I get discouraged, a post like yours will buoy me again. And there are quite a few posters here who have voiced discontent with cheating and other wrong doings. We’re not alone in the fight. But it’s a tough fight. But you know the old saying. All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

    ************
    I disagree with you. There is an expectation of privacy when it comes to emails between a boss and an employee, no matter the subject matter or frivolity of the emails. I think there is an expectation of privacy with any emails between two people!

  221. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 8:28 pm

    the computer and the mobile phone arent going away. railing against them just makes you sound like my angry old uncle.

    i embrace both the changes and the challenges in our ever changing exsistence.

    this is the only ‘time’ you get, live it and love it!

  222. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    ” I think there is an expectation of privacy with any emails between two people!”

    this is absolutely NOT correct.

  223. mick January 1st, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    Sometime comics are the smartest people on the planet.
    =======================================
    Maybe not smart in a book way but smart in being honest and pointing out the obvious which many seem to miss or can’t articulate.

  224. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 8:31 pm

    if i email the local prosecutor’s office that i have an unregistered gun in my house and he sends the sherriff out to my house to investigate based on the email, can i sue?

    what happened to my expectation of privacy in “any email between two people?”

  225. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 8:31 pm

    All my friends afford me common courtesy, basic privacy, when I write e-mails. I’m glad I’m not in someone else’s mixed up situation. Then again, I guess I simply choose not to go there.

  226. tomingeorgia January 1st, 2014 at 8:31 pm

    Bronx,
    He was working for the Yankees, not the tax payers.

  227. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    “i can’t think of one reason why levine or the fo would put that out.”

    Nor I.

    Again, it’s not like Arod’s got the upper hand in this fight. I think most would acknowledge that the odds are stacked severely against him. No matter what you think of MLB, the appeal at hand doesn’t deal with what MLB has or hasn’t done in the past – it deals with whether the arbitrator feels there is enough evidence against Arod to justify MLB’s recommended suspension.

    The Yankees do not need to try to put out anything. They’re not on trial. They are a bystander. Tacopina has tried to put them on trial, every which way but loose. But that’s the mark of a desperate defense attorney trying to throw everything possible at the wall in the hopes that something sticks.

  228. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    The reason why I siad “I hate to say it” is because I have been a big fan of some aspects of technological advances…like potential improvements to processes around health care, or bringing together people to share ideas and interests, or giving people more access to content.

    But the down side is the demise of the newspaper industry and vetted reporting, the trampling of privacy, and the ability to bring nutcases together to do terrible things…

  229. mick January 1st, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    the computer and the mobile phone arent going away. railing against them just makes you sound like my angry old uncle.
    ==================
    who cares what you “sound” like?
    do you know what it “looks” like when so called adults are possessed by their phones and attend functions where they play word games when the rest of the world indulges in what they paid good money to see or hear?

  230. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    Ys, I agree, live it and love it,…no other choice.

  231. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 8:28 pm
    the computer and the mobile phone arent going away. railing against them just makes you sound like my angry old uncle.

    i embrace both the changes and the challenges in our ever changing exsistence.
    ====
    GET OFF MY LAWN!!!

  232. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    “the computer and the mobile phone arent going away. railing against them just makes you sound like my angry old uncle.”

    All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Don’t sit there and assume that people have to suck up anything and everything that comes down he pike. You don’t know much about human nature if you believe that. And if you don’t recognize the dangers that come with the advance of technology, I feel sorry for you.

  233. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 8:37 pm

    “the world is going to hell in a handbasket” …angry uncle ernie at our dinner table in 1967.

  234. bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 8:37 pm

    Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 8:29 pm
    ” I think there is an expectation of privacy with any emails between two people!”

    this is absolutely NOT correct.

    ___________

    Without getting overly legal here, I think you can argue correctly that there is an expectation of privacy between the sender and receiver of an email in almost any situation but that really doesn’t answer the question. No expectation of privacy is absolute. For instance, your employer has the right to review your email from your work account. But that doesn’t mean someone outside the company can, unless they have some type of legal process. Privacy law varies quite a bit based on the parties involved and the circumstances. For instances, medical records have a very high level of privacy protection.

  235. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 8:38 pm

    “boy the way glen miller played, songs that made the hit parade, guys like us we had it made…

    …those were the days!

  236. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    What’s great about modern technology, is the simple joy when I write my daughter in the morning and she writes right back.

  237. mick January 1st, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    Today is the last day of the holiday period and starting tomorrow the real news will commence.
    Something to be said for the slow period but now we begin the real countdown to Spring Training.
    Enough with the nonsense…

  238. mick January 1st, 2014 at 8:40 pm

    “boy the way glen miller played, songs that made the hit parade, guys like us we had it made…

    …those were the days!
    ================
    Now you are sounding stereotypical ;)

  239. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 8:41 pm

    so the computer is the devil.

    ok.

  240. mick January 1st, 2014 at 8:41 pm

    GET OFF MY LAWN!!!
    ==============
    Do you like people on your lawn?

  241. mick January 1st, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    so the computer is the devil.
    ==================
    that’s extreme too.

  242. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    Ys Guy – do you know the legal definition of expectation of privacy? I recommend you read up on the court’s findings with respect to emails and expectation of privacy. You are definitely mixing apples and oranges here.

  243. Blojaldo January 1st, 2014 at 8:43 pm

    I think in 2013, for anyone to have the expectation that ANY electronic communication or data entry is private (web site posts, e-mail, text, cell call) is extremely naive and/or foolish.

  244. Jerkface January 1st, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    We only have easy to use handheld devices that contain all human knowledge which can communicate with anyone in the world, but its totally bad and a problem, right.

  245. mick January 1st, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    What’s great about modern technology, is the simple joy when I write my daughter in the morning and she writes right back.
    ======================
    We used to have telephones to do that.

  246. bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 8:47 pm

    bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 8:37 pm
    Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 8:29 pm
    ” I think there is an expectation of privacy with any emails between two people!”

    this is absolutely NOT correct.

    ___________

    Without getting overly legal here, I think you can argue correctly that there is an expectation of privacy between the sender and receiver of an email in almost any situation but that really doesn’t answer the question

    _________

    Ok, I think I’m wrong about this. If I send an email to John Doe, he’s under no general obligation to keep that private. He can forward it to the Wall Street Journal or wherever. But I do have a expectation of privacy to all the email stored on my computer insofar as a third party is concerned. That is third party has no right to access my personal email, or my work email for that matter.

  247. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 8:48 pm

    My e-mails are boring.

  248. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 8:48 pm

    the supreme court has found that communications recovered from garbage have no expectation of privacy attached to them because one of the parties allowed them to become public.

    do you know that transcripts of these emails werent plucked from someone’s trash?

  249. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 8:49 pm

    you have no way of knowing whether anyone’s privacy was invaded in publishing these emails.

  250. mick January 1st, 2014 at 8:49 pm

    That is third party has no right to access my personal email, or my work email for that matter.
    =================
    So if you are a terrorist bomber, someone hacking your email is wrong?

  251. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 8:50 pm

    so you agree that if either arod or levine ‘leaked’ them there is no expectation of privacy?

  252. pat January 1st, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    Where Alex is party to the conversation, there is no expectation of privacy. Selena Robert’s and Joe Torre’s books made that clear.

  253. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    Many marvels of Science are double-edged swords.

    Splitting the Atom can be used to light an entire City, or it can be used to level it.

    It’s not the discoveries that are the problem, or the advances they represent.

    It’s the people who use them for good or evil that are the issue.

    ;)

  254. pkyankfan69 January 1st, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    I understand why people don’t like it but personally I couldn’t care less if someone reads my Emails (I forewarn anyone thinking about reading mine, they are boring as crap.) Don’t see anything wrong with Chad making a post about the Arod/Levine nonsense. It was already public knowledge, it revolves around the Yankees, Chad covers the Yankees… Seems to me like he was doing his job.

  255. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    mick, my kid is a writer when it often ( but not always )comes to talking to me, and its great. We both enjoy the medium. She has a quick, sensitive mind.

  256. chicken_stanley January 1st, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    Ys Guy says:January 1, 2014 at 8:31 pmif i email the local prosecutor’s office that i have an unregistered gun in my house and he sends the sherriff out to my house to investigate based on the email, can i sue?what happened to my expectation of privacy in “any email between two people?”

    ——

    If I did that here in SW VA, the sherriff would surely come out to investigate… but it would be to investigate why I only had 1! :D

  257. blake January 1st, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    pat says:
    January 1, 2014 at 8:51 pm
    Where Alex is party to the conversation, there is no expectation of privacy. Selena Robert’s and Joe Torre’s books made that clear.

    He gave up those rights when he became a Centaur

  258. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    any by extension if they were leaked by people working for arod or levine with their approval, privacy is waived…

  259. tomingeorgia January 1st, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    My emails are mostly Viagra ads.

  260. Blojaldo January 1st, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    People miss the point. Except in huge cases of public import who is going to go to court about any of this? No one. The law doesn’t matter. The reality is there should be no expectation of privacy online. That’s not the world we live in. If you don’t want information seen don’t post it.

  261. chicken_stanley January 1st, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    He gave up those rights when he became a Centaur

    ——-

    LOL!!!

  262. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    chicken, my mom grew up just outside of saltville.

  263. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    Chicken, that’s hilarious, how many guns do you have? :D

  264. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    “the world is going to hell in a handbasket” …angry uncle ernie at our dinner table in 1967.

    So sad that you don’t recognize the reality of what is really happening in the world. And in your own country. The fact that America is no longer the super power it once was speaks volumes about where the country is headed. I don’t remember hearing it in 1967, but I’m astute enough to recognize that a country whose students are 36th in math out of 65 countries, 28th in science and 24th in reading, while spending the most money per student on education, is in big trouble. It wasn’t that long ago that America was the number one country in the world. Since I’ve been around for both times, I can tell you that it is extremely troubling to see where we are and where we seem to be headed.

    When I think of the current-day US, all that keeps going through my mind is “Nero fiddled while Rome burned.”

    Another extremely telling fact – economists have predicted that this is the first generation in America that will not earn more than their parents. Chew on that for a while. This is real. If you can be contained enough to be cheery and say “right on internet!” as a response, then maybe I envy you your naivete.

  265. mick January 1st, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    Emails are to be held in such privacy while 2 people on cell phones, which we don’t want to have any part of, are allowed to blabber their mundane nonsense in your ears invading your privacy?

    Talk about entitlement.

    If you have nothing to be afraid of, who cares? Most that hack emails want to steal from you.

  266. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    A question that has been on my mind…perhaps one of our legal experts could address.

    I though HIPPA requirements protected the privacy of medical records, and as such, ARod’s medical files with that clinic should have been private. However, if the clinic was a sham, does that mean their records were not protected? If ARod was unaware it was a sham, should his HIPPA rights still be enforced?

    Why was that evidence even allowed to be put into court or arbitration?

  267. bigdan22 January 1st, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    Another way to say it would be, if I send an email to Trish, unless it’s an attorney-client communication, she could share that email with anyone. But Trish can’t go to Google and ask for the emails from my gmail account without a subpoena.

  268. Tar January 1st, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    “Since neither of us can know for sure what his intentions were, I can tell you as an attorney that no attorney would be putting something like that in an email to a player, even if he were inclined to hope his players would cheat.”

    I don’t understand what you are saying here. You know Levine is an attorney, you have to believe that the email is not make believe. So what is your point?

    That he was Joking? Oh I get it…. one of those joking, but not really joking things wink wink.

    Sure it was all a big joke to goof around with Alex about Cano using PEDS

    hahaha that is funny.

  269. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 8:57 pm

    If you want privacy don’t use a cell phone.

  270. mick January 1st, 2014 at 8:57 pm

    My emails are mostly Viagra ads.
    ======================
    You know that ads are intuitive in that they respond to your input, right? ;)

  271. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    “My emails are mostly Viagra ads.”

    The courts have decided that there is no expectation of privacy there! Group emails and advertisements are excluded.

    :)

  272. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    tomingeorgia January 1st, 2014 at 8:53 pm
    My emails are mostly Viagra ads.
    ===
    You beat me to it. I was just about to say the only thing people would discover from reading my e-mails would be how to lengthen their p—-.

  273. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    And don’t use Google as your e-mail.

  274. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    Tar – I don’t understand what you’re saying. But that’s okay.

  275. Tar January 1st, 2014 at 8:59 pm

    “you have no way of knowing whether anyone’s privacy was invaded in publishing these emails.”

    I highly doubt it was. I have been saying all along that this is from Alex’s camp.

    Why should he hold back against Levine? I wouldn’t.

  276. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    ok but the privacy lecture and all that stuff from you guys assumed there was privacy attached.

    but you have to admit that if either arod or levine ‘leaked’ them, there is no longer any expectation.

    so, like i said, until i know how they were ‘leaked’ im not going to assume anyone’s privacy was breached.

  277. chicken_stanley January 1st, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    Ys – cool! Very familiar with Saltville.. I’m about 2 hours east of there – near Martinsville, VA

  278. Tar January 1st, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    Trish

    I’m confused as to your point. We agree Levine is an attorney, We agree he is the author if the emails in question. So where do we disagree?

  279. Blojaldo January 1st, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    America no longer a super-power? Surely you jest. We are the wealthiest country in the world by far, we have the most modern and powerful military by far, the stock market went through the roof in 2013, our economy is growing, the budget last year dropped to $642 billion, compared with $1.087 trillion in 2012 . . . and we have the Yankees. :)

  280. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    “The reality is there should be no expectation of privacy online. That’s not the world we live in. If you don’t want information seen don’t post it.”

    Emails aren’t generally “posted”. They are sent from one party to another. I do agree with anything else that goes online, and the courts have decided as much. There is no expectation of privacy with internet postings.

  281. chicken_stanley January 1st, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    Jmills – I hope I don’t open pandora’s box by admitting this but I have 3

  282. pkyankfan69 January 1st, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    In awesome news today… Congrats to CO for being the first state to allow the recreational sale of weed… Well overdue… It’s only a matter of time until this is everywhere.

  283. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 9:04 pm

    Tar – I’m saying that I believe the thing about Cano and using “something” was said as a joke. I was pointing out that as an attorney, even if Levine advocated the use of steroids (not saying that he does) he would be astute enough not to put it an in email to a player!

    JMO of course.

  284. mick January 1st, 2014 at 9:04 pm

    And don’t use Google as your e-mail.
    ==================
    And stay out of the Woolworth.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaW0M6V85j8

  285. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    Anyway.

    Next week should be real interesting.

    ;)

  286. blake January 1st, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    pkyankfan69 says:
    January 1, 2014 at 9:02 pm
    In awesome news today… Congrats to CO for being the first state to allow the recreational sale of weed… Well overdue… It’s only a matter of time until this is everywhere.

    Don’t smoke and ski….

  287. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 9:06 pm

    Don’t worry, chicken, I’m sure you can rightfully handle 3 – I keep a small axe under the bed :D

  288. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 9:06 pm

    pkyankfan69 January 1st, 2014 at 9:02 pm
    In awesome news today… Congrats to CO for being the first state to allow the recreational sale of weed… Well overdue… It’s only a matter of time until this is everywhere.
    ===========
    Can prostitution be far behind? I think Canada recently passed laws to allow that. And of course, Amsterdam has had both for years…

  289. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 9:06 pm

    ” pkyankfan69 January 1st, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    In awesome news today… Congrats to CO for being the first state to allow the recreational sale of weed… Well overdue… It’s only a matter of time until this is everywhere.”
    =======================================================

    overdue! even more critical is the un-availability of canabis as medicine in 39 states.

  290. Tar January 1st, 2014 at 9:07 pm

    Even if it was a joke ( not really important at this point)…could there be a more inappropriate joke for the President of the NY Yankees to make to Alex Rodriguez?

    This shows the same kind of lack of common sense that Cashman showed with Meanwell.

    The FRONT OFFICE is the JOKE…. A joke that is unworthy of being with the NY Yankees.

  291. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 9:08 pm

    Bojo-

    Guess you’ve never been to NV.

    ;)

  292. Blojaldo January 1st, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    Vegas odds have the Rockies at 650,000 – 1 to win it all.

  293. blake January 1st, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    “Even if it was a joke ( not really important at this point)…could there be a more inappropriate joke for the President of the NY Yankees to make to Alex Rodriguez?”

    I think it’s obvious It was a joke…..it was very inappropriate though and just a strange thing for a the president to say to one of his players…..especially one with a steroid cloud already hanging over them.

  294. blake January 1st, 2014 at 9:10 pm

    Blojaldo says:
    January 1, 2014 at 9:09 pm
    Vegas odds have the Rockies at 650,000 – 1 to win it all.

    Too low

  295. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 9:10 pm

    Under current law, to establish a reasonable expectation of privacy a person must establish two things: that the individual had a subjective expectation of privacy; and that that subjective expectation of privacy is one that society is prepared to recognize as reasonable. (See Katz v. US, 389 U.S. 347, 361 (1967) If either element is missing, no protected interest is established.

    Courts have already upheld a reasonable expectation of privacy in the transmission of an email.

    I think it’s reasonable to assume that if I write an email to someone, I would have a subjective expectation of privacy and that society would be prepared to recognize that as reasonable!

  296. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 9:10 pm

    sorry 29 states.

  297. mick January 1st, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    When I 1st saw the emails I thought it was a joke.
    Something G. Love could have made up.
    How do we know it wasn’t.
    Deadspin does it all of the time.

  298. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    Are we there yet ?

  299. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    MTU January 1st, 2014 at 9:08 pm
    Bojo-

    Guess you’ve never been to NV.
    ===
    Good point…never been, never paid for it. But it seems to make sense to tax and regulate these things if they are going to be such a big industry anyway…like gambling or using alcohol if you ask me.

  300. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    “Even if it was a joke ( not really important at this point)…could there be a more inappropriate joke for the President of the NY Yankees to make to Alex Rodriguez?

    This shows the same kind of lack of common sense that Cashman showed with Meanwell.”

    Now that I am ready to agree with. That’s a little too chummy for my taste, also.

  301. tomingeorgia January 1st, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    Mister mick,
    They know I’m an old fart, true. They also know what I’ve bought on Ebay, from any place on the Net, and even by mail order. They know where I go with my smart phone. They know more about my business tan I do. Big Brother is indeed watching, and he could be anyone. The government we know is.

  302. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    so if horowitz is going to send out his ruling by email, could he sue mlb when they announce the decision?

    i mean, wouldnt they be invading his privacy by announcing it?

  303. Tar January 1st, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    “I think it’s obvious It was a joke”

    I don’t think anything is obvious in this case.

    Maybe he was fishing for information on Cano?

    Maybe he was trying to get Alex to slip up and say something inappropriate himself? remember all the talk of a bounty?

    Who knows…but totally inappropriate. And should be a fireable offense.

  304. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    we own the government and we get to decide what is private and what isn’t.
    this is what makes America great!

  305. pkyankfan69 January 1st, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    Don’t smoke and ski
    ——-
    Funny story… I was skiing Solitude in Utah a few years back… Me and my friend I was out there with started skiing with an older guy we met on the mountain one day… We were out in the middle of nowhere after a long traverse when my friend broke out his bowl (I actually never smoke and ski, never liked mixing the 2)… He offered it to our new friend, he passed… We skied with him the rest of the day… After we went out to the parking lot and had a beer or 2… Conversation eventually got to work, asked our new friend what he did… What was his profession? A cop of course, politely asked us if we could not offer him weed in the future… I’m not out there much anymore but still keep in touch with him to this day. Weed being illegal is stupid.

  306. mick January 1st, 2014 at 9:14 pm

    Mr Tom,
    Sounds like you oughtta keep your nose clean then… ;)

  307. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 9:14 pm

    No young person should be convicted for prostitution. They’re not criminals. I agree with the points made in the film Elles with Juliette Binoche.

  308. LGY January 1st, 2014 at 9:14 pm

    I think those on here against technological advances should rally together.

    Maybe vow to stop posting on this blog in protest of the internet and the tools that connect us together.

    Who’s with me!?

  309. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 9:14 pm

    Bojo-

    When they speak of the “chicken ranch” out there aren’t talking about chickens.

    ;)

  310. chicken_stanley January 1st, 2014 at 9:14 pm

    Jmills – one was bought by my great grandfather and handed down to the first born each generation (if that makes any difference). One was given to me at 12 to hunt. One is the equivalent of your axe

  311. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 9:16 pm

    “In awesome news today… Congrats to CO for being the first state to allow the recreational sale of weed… Well overdue… It’s only a matter of time until this is everywhere.”

    I don’t agree at all. And who is going to be the quality control agency that ensures that the weed being sold isn’t laced with something and that the something won’t have a detrimental effect on the recipient such that others might end up being harmed? I have come to no longer care if an individual decides to be ungrounded enough to need some false stimulation in order to “function” or enjoy life. I do care, however, if that individual harms anyone else in any way, shape or form.

  312. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 9:16 pm

    Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 9:13 pm
    we own the government and we get to decide what is private and what isn’t.
    this is what makes America great!
    =======
    Only if you are rich.

  313. blake January 1st, 2014 at 9:16 pm

    I guess it’s fine….probably don’t wanna smoke to a point where the trees in the middle of the slopes look funny enough to hug though ;)

  314. mick January 1st, 2014 at 9:17 pm

    I think those on here against technological advances should rally together.
    ==================
    I hope you get sandwiched on a plane between 2 chatty cell phone users ;)

  315. Tar January 1st, 2014 at 9:18 pm

    “And who is going to be the quality control agency that ensures that the weed being sold isn’t laced with something and that the something won’t have a detrimental effect on the recipient such that others might end up being harmed?”

    I will say this…. whoever or whatever agency it is…I would trust them a whole hell of a lot more than any Columbian Cartel.

  316. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 9:18 pm

    “we own the government and we get to decide what is private and what isn’t.
    this is what makes America great!”

    We? :lol:

    Who is “we”, paleface?

  317. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 9:19 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 9:16 pm

    And who is going to be the quality control agency that ensures that the weed being sold isn’t laced with something and that the something won’t have a detrimental effect on the recipient such that others might end up being harmed?
    ===
    I think they’re called the government agency. States are regulating this stuff pretty tightly IIRC.

  318. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 9:19 pm

    “I will say this…. whoever or whatever agency it is…I would trust them a whole hell of a lot more than any Columbian Cartel.”

    Tar, my point is that I don’t think there is going to be any oversight.

  319. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 9:19 pm

    you know what else i LOVE?

    having my smartphone with me at the game and watching replays on it!

    and i still pack a transistor radio with an earbud in my shirt pocket when i go!

    i think it’s awesome! something i wish i had when i saw mantle play!

    i love technology!

  320. Blojaldo January 1st, 2014 at 9:19 pm

    pkyankfan69 January 1st, 2014 at 9:13 pm
    Don’t smoke and ski.

    Ask Sonny Bono.

  321. pkyankfan69 January 1st, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    I’ve broken 8 bones skiing sober… Skiing sober or drunk was never appealing to me… After skiing is another story!

  322. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    “I hope you get sandwiched on a plane between 2 chatty cell phone users ;)

    :lol:

  323. Tar January 1st, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    “Tar, my point is that I don’t think there is going to be any oversight.”

    Have to disagree. Before there was no oversight. After legalization there will be oversight.

  324. mick January 1st, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    Once it goes legal, kids will use that too against their parents.
    Sure they are using already but once the govt puts the stamp of approval on it more kids will think it’s ok.
    No wonder our ed. system has taken a hit.

  325. Tar January 1st, 2014 at 9:22 pm

    How long until Pot becomes California’s number one cash crop?

    I say the year after legalization.

  326. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 9:23 pm

    Utah.

    Best snow on Earth.

    :)

  327. mick January 1st, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    This is dedicated to you Y’s Guy

    Kip’s Wedding Song – YouTube
    ? 1:24? 1:24
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9ERiI1epI4?

  328. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    I recall seeing a report last year that explained how tightly state controls were monitoring the production and distribution processes. They will be oversight if states follow the Colorado example.

  329. blake January 1st, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    Maybe vow to stop posting on this blog in protest of the internet and the tools that connect us together.”

    They could probably type out their posts on a word processor and mail them to chad

  330. LGY January 1st, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    I hope you get sandwiched on a plane between 2 chatty cell phone users

    ——–

    Good thing the great technology God bestowed me with a portable entertainment device with noise canceling headphones. :evil:

  331. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    There will be (typo)

  332. pat January 1st, 2014 at 9:27 pm

    “After legalization there will be oversight.”

    and an estimated 70 million in tax revenue. always follow the money.

  333. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 9:28 pm

    Interesting last few years…same sex marriages, legalization of marijuana, legalization in Canada of prostitution, and a very outspoken Pope who has very radical views from prior Popes. Seems to be a wave of progressive ideas.

  334. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 9:28 pm

    Cross country skiing is enough for me, but I did enjoy the ” crazy Canucks ” from the mid to late seventies, into the early eighties. Steve Podborski was the first North American to win the downhill title. Those skis chattering on an icy Kitzbhule were something else. Gilles Villeneuve had an immediate attraction for the sport and was friends with Steve and Ken Read.

  335. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 9:28 pm

    thanks, that “kip’s wedding song” was pretty bizarre.

    …but wasn’t it cool that you were able to find it and link it to all of us that quickly? :)

  336. Blojaldo January 1st, 2014 at 9:28 pm

    California isn’t as motivated because they don’t need the money.

  337. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 9:29 pm

    pyankfan – True story. I skied in northern Italy (Cervinia) and we decided to ski from Italy into Switzerland. (I like to say that I fell all the way to Switzerland – a slight exaggeration – because I wasn’t used to skiing in deep powder and definitely had the wrong skis for it.) At one point, the grade of the mountain was so steep with no real traversing room that I actually took my skis off and walked in waist deep snow until I got to a more gradual plane. On the way down, I kept seeing crosses on the side of the mountain. When I got into Switzerland I asked one of the ski patrol what those were and he told me it was where people had died skiing on the mountain. :shock:

    Sometimes ignorance is bliss!

  338. Tar January 1st, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    “and an estimated 70 million in tax revenue. always follow the money.”

    Not to mention all the money saved in interdiction and incarnation. That alone has to be a windfall.

  339. LGY January 1st, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    Alcohol and cigarettes are more dangerous than marijuana.

    Free pot!!

  340. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    louis ck did an excellent bit about the first time he was on a plane that allowed internet access.

    it failed after a couple of minutes and the guy next to him started cursing about how crappy the service was.

    something that you didnt even know exsisted an hour ago.

  341. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    By the way, I have no difficulty with Chad posting the story!

  342. mick January 1st, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    Interesting last few years…same sex marriages, legalization of marijuana, legalization in Canada of prostitution, and a very outspoken Pope who has very radical views from prior Popes. Seems to be a wave of progressive ideas.
    ===================
    Sounds like the 60′s are catching up with the present.
    Took 50 years but what the heck…

  343. LGY January 1st, 2014 at 9:31 pm

    Not to mention the medicinal properties.

    Free pot!!

  344. Tar January 1st, 2014 at 9:31 pm

    incarnation :D

    Incarceration…. Too bad I can’t blame the wacky weed.

  345. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 9:33 pm

    LGY January 1st, 2014 at 9:31 pm

    Free pot!!
    ============
    Where!?!? Where!?!

  346. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 9:33 pm

    “Alcohol and cigarettes are more dangerous than marijuana.

    Free pot!!”

    I don’t use any of them so I can’t speak to what is more dangerous than the other. I know that I am free, however, since I don’t need any artificial stimulant of any kind to make it through the day.

    Now that is freedom at its best!

    :)

  347. LGY January 1st, 2014 at 9:36 pm

    I don’t use any of them so I can’t speak to what is more dangerous than the other. I know that I am free, however, since I don’t need any artificial stimulant of any kind to make it through the day.

    Now that is freedom at its best!

    —–

    Didn’t you recently have some sort of back injury?

    Out of curiosity, did you take pain killers?

  348. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 9:36 pm

    Extremely interesting that California, of all states, voted for Prop 8.

  349. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 9:38 pm

    God no, Trish, you don’t need any help with firing up for a day, mon ami! :D

  350. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 9:39 pm

    “Didn’t you recently have some sort of back injury?

    Out of curiosity, did you take pain killers?”

    I got shots in the back area, and I took muscle relaxants and prescription motrin, also prednisone. I don’t know if the shots (cortisone and tramidol) are officially pain killers, but they sure killed the pain.

    I think your point is that I took something to relieve the pain rather than going all natural.

    I have no problem with something being done for medicinal purposes, if it is truly for medicinal purposes – including people using pot.

  351. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 9:40 pm

    “God no, Trish, you don’t need any help with firing up for a day, mon ami! :D

    :lol:

    There are probably a host of people who wish I could be persuaded to take downers!

  352. Blojaldo January 1st, 2014 at 9:41 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 9:36 pm
    Extremely interesting that California, of all states, voted for Prop 8.

    It was the most flagrant case of money buying an election result you will ever see. The Mormon Church was behind an $83 million campaign, the largest amount ever for an electoral fight over a social issue in California.

  353. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 9:42 pm

    We are an interesting bunch, n’est-ce pas?

    :)

  354. pkyankfan69 January 1st, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    When I fractured my face in 4 places the hospital gave me a shot of morphine instead of pain killer pills because they thought I might have to have surgery that day… I can see why so many soldiers got addicted to that stuff, turned a bummer of a day into a great mood immediately.

  355. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    Blojaldo, so you are saying the people in the state of California didn’t have their own minds and needed to be propagandized to understand the implications of same-sex marriage? How about they just didn’t believe in it?

  356. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    medical marijuana is a big issue with me as i was an aquantence of Peter McWilliams who died of aids and was denied medical marijuana in his dying days in california and helped turn public opinion about medical marijuana there.

    people like me who live with seizure conditions should have the option of using medical marijuana everywhere in the united states.

  357. Blojaldo January 1st, 2014 at 9:48 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    Blojaldo, so you are saying the people in the state of California didn’t have their own minds and needed to be propagandized to understand the implications of same-sex marriage? How about they just didn’t believe in it?

    Because that wasn’t the case. The campaign to pass Prop 8 disseminated mostly inaccurate and deceptive rhetoric that preyed upon the fears of lower-income Latino Catholics, such as . . . “if Prop 8 fails and gay couples continue to marry, then public schools will be forced to teach gay marriage and parents won’t be able to pull kids from sex ed classes that address it.”

  358. MTU January 1st, 2014 at 9:48 pm

    Have good night.

    See you all tomorrow.

    :)

  359. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 9:49 pm

    One time Keith Moon took a horse tranquilizer before a Who concert in I think, the Cow Palace. There is amateur black and white film of it. All of a sudden, Keith passes straight out over the drums. There is a brief intermission while they take Keith back to give him a shot of something else. Keith makes it back to his drums, only to do one final collapse a few bars in. Townsend asks the audience, ” anybody here that can play the drums? “. A young not so good drummer guy got a wish of a lifetime.

  360. Blojaldo January 1st, 2014 at 9:49 pm

    Besides, I don’t believe “the people” have the right electorally to deny a human right to others.

  361. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 9:50 pm

    The Prop 8 election was more complex than people just not believing in it. It is actually a pretty interesting study on political strategy. Money did play a big part. So did the way the right splintered groups on the left.

  362. LGY January 1st, 2014 at 9:52 pm

    Trisha

    You also don’t need to use something to understand its detrimental properties especially if you are going to take a stance against the legalization of marijuana.

    What if we discuss fast food? You have posted quite often that you rely on it for dinner and I’m not sure what we ingest gets more artificial than that stuff.

    Why should be condemn pot users more than fast food eaters whole some believe are basically ingesting poison and significantly contributing to us being the 2nd fattest country in the world?

  363. Blojaldo January 1st, 2014 at 9:52 pm

    The strategy was to lie and create fear among a targeted, large, undereducated and religious segment of the population. It was quite simple and eighty plus million dollars of Mormon money did the trick.

  364. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 9:54 pm

    As long as Monsanto stays out of marijuana production, i believe the product will be less contaminated than the foods we eat.

  365. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 9:55 pm

    I don’t use drugs BTW, but I am all for legalizing it and taxing the heck out of it to pay for social programs.

  366. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 9:55 pm

    i shouldnt have been political about medical marijuana, sorry.

    and im certainly not going to comment on any other political issue.

  367. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 9:57 pm

    so just in case the ruling hits the news tomorrow, last chance to add an arod prediction:

    ys guy 162
    MTU 100
    tomingeorgia 65
    Niblick 80
    blake 100
    86w183 162
    Abe Peterham 0
    RadioKev 50
    easyenough 150
    Mike Ri 100
    Yankee Trader 60
    Tar 50
    Can of Corn 161
    Your Worst Nightmare 211
    exiledintampa 81
    Baby Ruth 200
    yanks61 120
    rm 0
    jerkface 0
    howler 75
    trisha 211
    bbb51 211
    chicken_stanley 162
    chip 162
    yankeefeminista 65
    austinmac 162
    cashmoney 3,000,000

  368. pkyankfan69 January 1st, 2014 at 9:59 pm

    I’ve got 69 for Arod’s suspension.

  369. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 9:59 pm

    http://r9—sn-tt17rn76.c......&mv=m

    Keith Moon passing out after that horse tranquilizer

  370. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 9:59 pm

    the average is 111.5 ,not counting cashmoney (somthing like 11K with)

  371. mick January 1st, 2014 at 9:59 pm

    Why should be condemn pot users more than fast food eaters whole some believe are basically ingesting poison and significantly contributing to us being the 2nd fattest country in the world?
    ====================
    Legalizing it will make us the 1st.

  372. Blojaldo January 1st, 2014 at 9:59 pm

    A-Rod Prediction: 75

  373. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 10:00 pm

    ok got it pk!

  374. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 10:01 pm

    My guess: ARod should get 0 games, but will get 50.

  375. pkyankfan69 January 1st, 2014 at 10:02 pm

    gracias

  376. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 10:03 pm

    “people like me who live with seizure conditions should have the option of using medical marijuana everywhere in the united states.”

    Totally agree.

    **********

    “What if we discuss fast food? You have posted quite often that you rely on it for dinner and I’m not sure what we ingest gets more artificial than that stuff.

    Why should be condemn pot users more than fast food eaters whole some believe are basically ingesting poison and significantly contributing to us being the 2nd fattest country in the world?”

    1. Fast food isn’t used to bring about some kind of “other reality.”

    2. Many fast-food chains now only use oils that don’t contain trans fats and post the nutritional content of their foods, along with the calorie count, so there is at least an attempt to make fast food healthier.

    2. I have already said that I am fine with people harming themselves and their brain cells (did you see the study that said that teenagers who regularly smoke marijuana suffer long lasting brain damage and are in much greater danger of developing schizophrenia?) as long as they don’t do harm to anyone else in the process.

  377. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 10:05 pm

    “cashmoney 3,000,000″

    LMAO!

  378. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 10:09 pm

    Waiting for the snow to start!

    LGY, are you in NY?

  379. mick January 1st, 2014 at 10:11 pm

    Who do you think is eating all that fast food?
    Poor people and stoners.

  380. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 10:12 pm

    Ahhh…change my prediction to zero games. I think the case should be thrown out because the process of obtaining info was tainted.

  381. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 10:12 pm

    “Who do you think is eating all that fast food?
    Poor people and stoners.”

    And people who do not cook!

  382. mick January 1st, 2014 at 10:13 pm

    Good night…

  383. LGY January 1st, 2014 at 10:13 pm

    LGY, are you in NY?

    —–

    Yup.

  384. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 10:14 pm

    And I also!

    Hasta manana.

    :)

  385. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 10:14 pm

    JMills…thanks for the Who link…very amusing.

  386. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 10:15 pm

    “Yup.”

    Is it snowing there?

  387. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 10:17 pm

    ok bojo i got you for a zero. and i got blojaldo too.

  388. Blojaldo January 1st, 2014 at 10:18 pm

    If Georgie was around he would have eaten A-Rods remaining contract and kicked him out the door. I really believe that.

  389. LGY January 1st, 2014 at 10:19 pm

    Not yet. Supposed to start tomorrow morning.

  390. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 10:20 pm

    BoJo, no prob, Keith Moon was a man that knew no clock.

  391. Blojaldo January 1st, 2014 at 10:24 pm

    If anyone missed Eric Clapton’s “Crossroads” benefit on Palladia, grab a twisted one and enjoy five hours of some of the greatest guitar players and music you will ever hear.

  392. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 10:26 pm

    Blojaldo January 1st, 2014 at 10:18 pm
    If Georgie was around he would have eaten A-Rods remaining contract and kicked him out the door.
    ———–
    Don’t know about that. I seem to recall he wanted Winfield gone too…not much luck with that but he wouldn’t eat the contract.

  393. Triple Short of a Cycle January 1st, 2014 at 10:31 pm

    Fast food isn’t used to bring about some kind of “other reality.”

    —————————–

    Do you drink coffee?

  394. Blojaldo January 1st, 2014 at 10:32 pm

    Winfield wasn’t a cheating, lying thug who disgraced the team brand and baseball.

  395. jmills January 1st, 2014 at 10:33 pm

    Rush with Alex Lifeson, do a searing rendition of Crossroads. They filmed that tour in, Germany. I prefer their Brasil concert for the shear energy of the fans. I also like Jeff Healey’s take on, ” while my guitar gently weeps “. Jeff was a great collector of jazz 78′s from the twenties and thirtes and turned away from guitar in favour of a trumpet ( he had his own tribute band for the era ). He also had an evening spot once a week on a jazz station. It was a sad day driving home to learn Jeff had left us – his big c that had taken his eyesight as a todler, finally caught up with him.

  396. blake January 1st, 2014 at 10:38 pm

    “Do you drink coffee?”

    America runs on a caffeine induced state of awareness…..I know I do

  397. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 1st, 2014 at 10:50 pm

    “Do you drink coffee?”

    Do not.

  398. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 10:54 pm

    Blojaldo January 1st, 2014 at 10:32 pm
    Winfield wasn’t a cheating, lying thug who disgraced the team brand and baseball.
    ===
    Besides your opinion. prove that ARod is any of those things.

    You might not like him, but he hasn’t yet be shown to do anything that will allow the team to break their contract, and I am pretty sure they won’t buy him out and let him play elsewhere while they pay him.

  399. FanSince1948 January 1st, 2014 at 11:04 pm

    Accckkk!

    Where’s my 101 games for ARod.

  400. tomingeorgia January 1st, 2014 at 11:06 pm

    I want

    I want Alex at third base opening day, but I think it will be June before he is.

  401. Ys Guy January 1st, 2014 at 11:12 pm

    got it fansince1948

  402. BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 11:15 pm

    BTW–I am not sure how this arbitration works. In some cases, the arbitrator can only pick one side or the other–either 214 games or 0. Perhaps here he has some leeway to pick somewhere in between, but I don’t know that for sure. Has anyone seen the definitive guidelines he has to work within? If he only gets to pick 0 or 214, I think ARod wins easily.

  403. ac1 January 1st, 2014 at 11:20 pm

    Arod 100

  404. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West January 1st, 2014 at 11:27 pm

    Arod- the 65 that Braun got, plus an additional 50 for being a douche

    115 for me

  405. AAA January 1st, 2014 at 11:42 pm

    Winfield wasn’t a cheating, lying thug who disgraced the team brand and baseball.

    =================================

    Nope. At that point in time the guy who fit that description was George Steinbrenner.

  406. AAA January 1st, 2014 at 11:44 pm

    Count me among those who are at 65 games for Rodriguez.

  407. Tar January 1st, 2014 at 11:44 pm

    Bojo

    That’s salary arbitration where its one figure, or the other.

    In this type of Arb the Arbitrator can use his discretion on how many games is warranted. I believe provided he follows the JDA.

  408. Tar January 1st, 2014 at 11:46 pm

    “Winfield wasn’t a cheating, lying thug who disgraced the team brand and baseball.”

    Tell that to the Seagull community. :wink:

    With that I’m out…. good night.

  409. DaSaint007 January 1st, 2014 at 11:46 pm

    Hope everyone had a Happy New Year’s Eve celebration…

    Ys Guy – Arod gets a 65 game suspension.

  410. Blojaldo January 2nd, 2014 at 1:34 am

    BoJo January 1st, 2014 at 10:54 pm
    Blojaldo January 1st, 2014 at 10:32 pm
    Winfield wasn’t a cheating, lying thug who disgraced the team brand and baseball.
    ===
    Besides your opinion. prove that ARod is any of those things.

    You might not like him, but he hasn’t yet be shown to do anything that will allow the team to break their contract, and I am pretty sure they won’t buy him out and let him play elsewhere while they pay him.

    ——————————–

    Try paying attention to the news. He failed a drug test, he lied about juicing, he has associated with a laundry list of unsavory characters, his cousin, trainer, the doctor busted on the Canadian border with syringes and steroids, now Biogenesis along with scores of others who pleaded guilty giving credence to the reports, etc.

  411. BoJo January 2nd, 2014 at 5:55 am

    Blojaldo January 2nd, 2014 at 1:34 am

    Try paying attention to the news. He failed a drug test, he lied about juicing, he has associated with a laundry list of unsavory characters, his cousin, trainer, the doctor busted on the Canadian border with syringes and steroids, now Biogenesis along with scores of others who pleaded guilty giving credence to the reports, etc.
    ========
    Those are all allegations, not proven facts. If they were proven, the Yankees may have recourse.

    In rhis country, a man is still innocent until proven guilty…Barry Bonds told me so.

  412. BoJo January 2nd, 2014 at 5:57 am

    And Roger Clemons agreed.

  413. BoJo January 2nd, 2014 at 6:01 am

    Reminder….as terrible as the allegations were against those two, they were never proven guilty, and as such Selig could not ban them from baseball for life.

    Same will be the case here. The process of gathering evidence against ARod allegedly broke laws. It should be thrown out. They don’t even have the smoking needle like they did with Clemons.

  414. BoJo January 2nd, 2014 at 6:12 am

    I actually admire what ARod is doing. He perhaps is the only ballplayer with the resources to fight the allegations. Players like Braun and Cervelli and others had to roll over and accept bans based on sloppy evidence. ARod is protecting his rights–and he has every right to do so.

    ARod is also reminding us all of the hypocrisy of baseball ownership and Selig…they benefited from the juicing when fans flocked to games to see records shattered. They rewarded juicers with big contracts despite allegations of steroids. They simply turned a blind eye to it until public outrage and Congress forced their hand. Now they have gone overboard in punishing players based on evidence that is very questionable.

    One thing that is similar to George though is the way the MLB consorted with thugs to produce their “evidence.” Howie Spire (sp?) would be proud.

  415. blake January 2nd, 2014 at 7:25 am

    I actually admire what ARod is doing. He perhaps is the only ballplayer with the resources to fight the allegations. Players like Braun and Cervelli and others had to roll over and accept bans based on sloppy evidence. ARod is protecting his rights–and he has every right to do so”

    Braun doesn’t make as much as Arod but he still makes a ton….he could have fought it
    If he wanted. He chose to fess up…..which weakens Arods case

  416. Ys Guy January 2nd, 2014 at 7:38 am

    arod is an idiot. had he negotiated a settlement, he’d be playing again sometime this spring.

    he’s let these lawyers go hog wild spending his money and likely cost himself a full season’s suspension at great expense and in the process destroyed his relationship with the yankees and mlb.

    and he is a liar, he lied about ped usage, the first time and he lied when he had ‘nothing to do with boesch’.

    other than that, and the cheating, he’s a real stand-up guy. i can see why you believe him.

  417. MTU January 2nd, 2014 at 7:39 am

    Time for a new thread.

  418. MTU January 2nd, 2014 at 7:43 am

    IMO the Yankees will not go into the season w/o acquiring at least one more SP.

    Agree or disagree ?

  419. Ys Guy January 2nd, 2014 at 7:45 am

    new threads @ 9 am pretty much every day.

  420. pat January 2nd, 2014 at 7:49 am

    He was someone who was willing to do whatever it took to get what he wanted and he wasn’t afraid to break a few rules (and laws) in the process. He was not afraid of controversy and lived on the back page of the NY papers.

    That describes George and Alex

  421. blake January 2nd, 2014 at 7:49 am

    “The news report about a purported relationship between Alex Rodriguez and Anthony Bosch are not true … Alex Rodriguez was not Mr. Bosch’s patient, he was never treated by him and he was never advised by him.”

    This from Arods initial response to Biogenesis. In the interview with Francesa he said that he only went to him for legal supplements etc……he’s a liar plain and simple and that’s my biggest beef with Arod. He doesn’t shoot straight…..he doesn’t show contrition….he just lies habitually to try and weasel out of things

  422. blake January 2nd, 2014 at 7:50 am

    MTU says:
    January 2, 2014 at 7:43 am
    IMO the Yankees will not go into the season w/o acquiring at least one more SP.

    Agree or disagree ?”

    Agree….but if Arods suspension is all season it could still be somebody cheap enough to allow 189 to happen. We shall see

  423. MTU January 2nd, 2014 at 7:57 am

    Blake-

    Don’t see an entire season for AR.

    I think we get another SP no matter what happens.

    The quality of said Pitcher is another matter.

    The higher the better.

    ;)

  424. MTU January 2nd, 2014 at 7:59 am

    How about another experienced reliever.

    Yes or no ?

  425. blake January 2nd, 2014 at 8:00 am

    MTU,
    I think they are serious about Tanaka and will go over to sign him….if they can’t get him though I’m not sure what they’ll do

  426. blake January 2nd, 2014 at 8:00 am

    MTU says:
    January 2, 2014 at 7:59 am
    How about another experienced reliever.

    Yes or no ?

    I’m not sure why Balfour isn’t a Yankee yet…..189 of course

  427. MTU January 2nd, 2014 at 8:02 am

    Blake-

    If they don’t get Tanaka I’d expect someone like U-Jim, or Garza.

    If not them then someone like Arroyo.

    They needed to cover 400 innings. They aren’t there yet.

  428. MTU January 2nd, 2014 at 8:04 am

    Blake-

    I think they are doing things in a sequential fashion right now.

    Once they see where they are w AR and Tanaka they’ll proceed.

    1st things 1st.

    ;)

  429. pat January 2nd, 2014 at 8:07 am

    he’s a liar plain and simple and that’s my biggest beef with Arod.

    but if he was still hitting 30/100, would you figure out a way to move past that?

  430. Ys Guy January 2nd, 2014 at 8:12 am

    ” pat January 2nd, 2014 at 7:49 am

    He was someone who was willing to do whatever it took to get what he wanted and he wasn’t afraid to break a few rules (and laws) in the process. He was not afraid of controversy and lived on the back page of the NY papers.

    That describes George and Alex”
    —————————————————–
    absolutely does. and george’s (second) suspension was the best thing that has happened to the yankees in my lifetime!

  431. Ys Guy January 2nd, 2014 at 8:14 am

    i never wanted arod on this team when he was hitting 45/125. now he’s a 19/52 guy.

  432. AAA January 2nd, 2014 at 8:17 am

    i never wanted arod on this team when he was hitting 45/125. now he’s a 19/52 guy.

    ====================================

    Why wouldn’t you want him at 45/125?

  433. blake January 2nd, 2014 at 8:21 am

    “but if he was still hitting 30/100, would you figure out a way to move past that?”

    Not personally….but Id like the production. If Arod could still play like Arod the juice would be worth the squeeze with him much like it was with manny in Boston for a long time….it’s not anymore

  434. blake January 2nd, 2014 at 8:23 am

    So yea….if he was still a good player you put up with his nonsense……but he’s not anymore so you don’t. It’s like that in sports.

    How many lies has Alex been caught it now?

  435. Ys Guy January 2nd, 2014 at 8:24 am

    there are certain players that you just don’t want on your team. in my case arod was one of them.

    although i will readily admit that had he not opted out it would have been a good aquisition and the contract would have played out well.

    the opt-out and the resigning was the disaster.

  436. pat January 2nd, 2014 at 8:28 am

    ys guy

    Did you not want Alex on the Yankees because of the Esquire article about Derek?

  437. Ys Guy January 2nd, 2014 at 8:38 am

    arod always struck me as a clueless narcisist. the esquire article really didnt bother me that much because what he said was actually true.

    his talent was also always obvious but i just never wanted him on the yankees.

    in fact, when he was traded to the red socks and i saw their players on espn all giddy that arod was coming to boston i was actually happy. you want the players you hate to be on your enemy’s team.

  438. blake January 2nd, 2014 at 8:39 am

    The evidence will come out eventually on all this…..it always does..

  439. blake January 2nd, 2014 at 8:40 am

    in fact, when he was traded to the red socks and i saw their players on espn all giddy that arod was coming to boston i was actually happy. you want the players you hate to be on your enemy’s team.”

    Arod, Ortiz, manny wouldn’t have been fun

  440. blake January 2nd, 2014 at 8:43 am

    I think they are doing things in a sequential fashion right now.”

    Agreed

  441. GregD January 2nd, 2014 at 9:01 am

    the next three weeks will be filled with news…….Tanaka, A-Rod………perhaps Balfour though I don’t the Yanks go after him unless his price tag has gone way down……..

  442. MTU January 2nd, 2014 at 9:03 am

    Greg-

    Hallelujah.

    :)

  443. MTU January 2nd, 2014 at 9:04 am

    New one ——–>

  444. GregD January 2nd, 2014 at 9:05 am

    MTU——

    just 43 days until Spring Training too……I am planning a trip to spend a week in Tampa and go to the games….it’s a bucket list item for me……..

  445. Blojaldo January 2nd, 2014 at 9:09 am

    Bojo – “In this country, a man is still innocent until proven guilty…Barry Bonds told me so.”

    Wrong. A-Rod is not on trial in a criminal court of law and what happens to him is subject to the rules that govern his industry including the judgment of the powers that be. He’s entitled to be paid unless he’s suspended and after that if the Yankees want to pay him and fire him that’s their right. Some people unfortunately admire low life’s due to their celebrity.

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