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We’ve been over all of this before

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 07, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

It’s been too long since anything changed about the Yankees. That’s why all of these days are starting to feel the same. At this point, we’re all well aware that Masahiro Tanaka is available, and that Alex Rodriguez is in limbo, and that Derek Jeter is trying to bounce back, and that Robinson Cano is gone, and that Brian McCann is new, and that Mariano Rivera has retired, and that Brett Gardner has trade value, and that Brian Roberts has been hurt lately, and that Hiroki Kuroda is almost 39, and that Dave Robertson would like the opportunity to close, and that … well, you get the idea.

So I was trying to stir up some sort of new blog post idea or newspaper story topic, and I thought I’d go around the diamond looking at each position for key questions or story lines that we haven’t really explored. Some of these are probably worth diving into in detail, but for now, I why not post the list I came up with?

Position-by-position, here’s the key issue currently facing the Yankees:
(acknowledging that the pitching staff is a whole other can of worms)

Mark TeixeiraFirst base – Mark Teixeira’s wrist
One position that could be in line for a significant upgrade over last season, but only if Teixeira’s wrist is up to the task. Is it strong enough? Can he drive the ball? How are early swings feeling? Will he be 100 percent by Opening Day? Smaller issues: Finding a backup; the development of Greg Bird.

Second base – Brian Roberts’ viability
Replacing Robinson Cano is really a team-wide issue, not necessarily a second base issue. The compelling issue at second is whether Roberts is still a viable solution (or even part of the solution). He hasn’t had more than 265 at-bats in four years. Smaller issues: Finding mix-and-match options; evaluating Dean Anna; a full season for Gosuke Katoh

Third base – Alex Rodriguez’s suspension
Obviously. There’s surely no third base issue in all of baseball as significant as the A-Rod suspension. Is he playing this year? Is his contract off the books? What sort of antics does he have in store? If he does play, what’s he capable of doing? Smaller issues: Potential regular at-bats for Kelly Johnson; sorting through minor league alternatives; challenging Eric Jagielo

Shortstop – Derek Jeter’s defense
There are a lot of questions with Jeter – will he stay healthy this year, can he hit like he did in 2012 – but the one that keeps popping into my head is whether he’s still a shortstop. Let’s assume the ankle has healed and his legs are 100 percent. Let’s also assume he can still get on a base and hit for average. That doesn’t necessarily mean he still has the range for the position. Smaller issues: The future of Eduardo Nunez; how often Brendan Ryan plays; low-level shortstops trying to emerge

Robinson Cano, Brett GardnerLeft field – Brett Gardner’s future
The Yankees have a roster spot for him, but he’s also somewhat expendable and might be their most valuable trade chip. Is he really next year’s left fielder, or is he trade fodder inevitably being flipped for a pitcher or an infielder? If he plays, is he the No. 2 hitter or the No. 9 hitter? Smaller issues: Zoilo Almonte as fourth outfielder; Vernon Wells as DFA candidate; finding playing time for versatile guys in Triple-A.

Center field – Jacoby Ellsbury’s health
It’s easy to understand why the Yankees signed Ellsbury. The upside is right there in his statistics – dangerous leadoff hitter, good defensive player, one of the best overall free agents on the market – but he’s missed significant time in two of the past four years. Smaller issues: The need for a dependable backup; the development – or trade value — of Slade Heathcott and Mason Williams

Right field – Carlos Beltran’s age
In Beltran, the Yankees signed a guy who hit .282/.343/.493 while averaging more than 600 plate appearances the past two years. If they get that sort of steady production, they’ll be thrilled. But Beltran turns 37 in April and doesn’t have the greatest health history. How often should he really play the field? Smaller issues: Testing Alfonso Soriano in right; the trade possibility of Ichiro Suzuki (or his adjustment to the bench); Tyler Austin’s attempt to bounce back

Catcher – Brian McCann’s expectations
Of the Yankees major free agent additions, none seems to have more universal praise and support than their new catcher. He’s an unquestioned upgrade, and his bat should be perfect for Yankee Stadium, but can he really live up to those expectations? How much does he have to do exactly? Smaller issues: Choosing a big league backup; keeping Gary Sanchez behind the plate; finding a permanent position for Peter O’Brien

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121 Responses to “We’ve been over all of this before”

  1. Bret The Hitman January 7th, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    Currently, I’m home from work, my housemate is out and I can’t sneak into the jacuzzi because she always sends over this nuisance of a neighbor to “walk her dog” when she’s out. It never fails. When I have the place to myself, this woman shows up at the door, every time. Screw it, I’m jumping in the jacuzzi on a Tuesday, with some Epsom salts and enough magnesium to bring me the tranquility I need to face tomorrow and the next.

  2. bbb51 January 7th, 2014 at 3:25 pm

    blake January 7th, 2014 at 3:19 pm
    No, the comparison is that they both pitched in the NPB, and you can compare their stats there and try to extrapolate Tanaka’s possible performance in MLB.”

    Sure but we do the same thing with guys in the minors trying to make the leap to the big leagues….it’s really no different other than some cultural hurdles. As you say…..a should be grading Tanaka on his stuff and ability as a pitcher….not by how he compared to other pitchers that happen to be Japanese

    Again it’s not that Matsuzaka or Darvish are Japanese (Yu only half Japanese btw), it’s that they all pitched in the NPB, same league, same level of competition. Of course they are mostly going to be Japanese.

  3. bigdan22 January 7th, 2014 at 3:33 pm

    Re-post

    http://espn.go.com/new-york/ml…..iro-tanaka

    —–

    I talked about this last week. Tanaka is the Rubicon, the litmus test, or any other trite metaphor you can think of for Hal and the Yanks. All that’s happened up to now has just been a prologue. We’ll know in two weeks.

  4. yankeefeminista January 7th, 2014 at 3:33 pm

    Like philosopy, eating healthily is an invention of the rich, unfortunately. Harlem didn’t even get a real supermarket until 1999.

    Heading to the office.

  5. blake January 7th, 2014 at 3:34 pm

    yankeefeminista says:
    January 7, 2014 at 3:33 pm
    Like philosopy, eating healthily is an invention of the rich, unfortunately. Harlem didn’t even get a real supermarket until 1999.

    These days it’s expensive to eat healthy unless you’re a farmer

  6. yankeefeminista January 7th, 2014 at 3:36 pm

    blake, yep. Gotta run.

  7. J. Alfred Prufrock January 7th, 2014 at 3:36 pm

    bigdan22 January 7th, 2014 at 1:12 pm

    “Keep the talk to the Yankees here, guys. Leave the political religion of global warming (or the lack of it) out of it. The more everyone talks, the worse they sound. Just for kicks, wikipedia “Lysenko”–it’s very informative on this topic and our society’s reaction to it.”

    ______

    As a Yankee fan, I really hope we get some rain in southern Cali this year. It’s good for the plants.
    ///

    bigdan, lmao

  8. J. Alfred Prufrock January 7th, 2014 at 3:45 pm

    Giuseppe Franco January 7th, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    I vote we keep politics out of this forum regardless where you reside on the global warming issue.

    This place is divisive enough without bringing politics in here.
    ///

    Well if we’re going to avoid politics (and I don’t disagree; I do think there are some offshoot baseball-related subjects that inevitably come up and inevitably get qualified here as “left” and right,” but I don’t necessarily think the secondary type discussion needs to be eliminated, in fact I think it enriches the blog).

    But sure, strict political discussion for its own sake should be avoided (I don’t think Global Warming applies, personally).

    And if the actual TOS are to be enforced, I could really do without reading the constant (and highly inappropriate, IMO) invocations of medieval concepts like “evil”, “the devil”, and an Abrahamic “God” whenever the subject of PEDS comes up, here.

  9. Yankee Trader January 7th, 2014 at 3:46 pm

    Tex-slower recovery than Bautista from same surgery plus Shift- will be lucky to be a 30/100 hitter this season.

    Roberts-if he can stay healthy, he might be the Yankee comeback player. Had a pretty decent healthy last few months in Baltimore

    Jeter-if he’s 100% he’s the SS . Nunez can’t field the position and Ryan can’t hit

    ARod- just my opinion, but if he does get to play this season, he’ll spend another lengthy stint on the DL, related to his hip/hips issue.

    MCCann- if he hasn’t faced the shift in the NL, he’ll certainly face it in the AL East where the Rays and O’s use it more than any other teams.

    Beltran- played an average of 540 at bats the last three years in NL after clean out of his right knee. Think he’ll be fine, with a chance to DH on occasion.

    Gardner -if the Yankees can get Bailey for Gardner and spare parts and then sign him to an extension, plus sign Tanaka, wouldn’t this be a sweet rotation for the ages after this season?

    Sabathia
    Tanaka
    Bailey
    Nova
    Pineda / Banuelos

  10. Yankee Trader January 7th, 2014 at 3:49 pm

    Talking politics with Gardiner………… Chauncey Gardiner:

    President “Bobby”: Mr. Gardner, do you agree with Ben, or do you think that we can stimulate growth through temporary incentives?
    [Long pause]
    Chance the Gardener: As long as the roots are not severed, all is well. And all will be well in the garden.
    President “Bobby”: In the garden.
    Chance the Gardener: Yes. In the garden, growth has it seasons. First comes spring and summer, but then we have fall and winter. And then we get spring and summer again.
    President “Bobby”: Spring and summer.
    Chance the Gardener: Yes.
    President “Bobby”: Then fall and winter.
    Chance the Gardener: Yes.
    Benjamin Rand: I think what our insightful young friend is saying is that we welcome the inevitable seasons of nature, but we’re upset by the seasons of our economy.
    Chance the Gardener: Yes! There will be growth in the spring!
    Benjamin Rand: Hmm!
    Chance the Gardener: Hmm!
    President “Bobby”: Hm. Well, Mr. Gardner, I must admit that is one of the most refreshing and optimistic statements I’ve heard in a very, very long time.
    [Benjamin Rand applauds]
    President “Bobby”: I admire your good, solid sense. That’s precisely what we lack on Capitol Hill.

  11. Bret The Hitman January 7th, 2014 at 3:51 pm

    Bigdan,

    We certainly know how temperature increase affects weather patterns on a basic level. The water cycle is firmly established – precipitation, evaporation, condensation.

    When temperatures rise, liquid water in the ocean turns to gas vapor through evaporation, increasing the size of storm clouds increasing the volume of precipitation in wet regions.

    When temperature rises, liquid water in the soil, evaporates, leaving behind dry soil. Soil erosion leaves a top layer that can’t hold water, so the little rainfall that falls in a dry area evaporates into the atmosphere before it can be harnessed for farming. That is why deserts experience flash floods.

    There is no debate about it..

    Higher CO2 = higher temp

    Higher temp = more drought in dry areas and more flooding in wet areas.

    To say “we don’t know” really stalls progress and resolution.

    We do know.

    We need to incentivize private industry (specifically fossil fuel burners/CO2 emmiters) to invest in alternative energies like solar, wind, geothermal and hydroelectric.

    But of course, those same industries employ lobbyists (attorneys like yourself) to write the federal energy policy for the public so they won’t be abandoning their current profit model anytime soon.

    Record windfall profits across the board.

  12. Irreverent Discourse January 7th, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    Back from the holidays, hope everyone enjoyed theirs :)

    What a day I pick though… global warming debates? Uhg.

    When will people learn that weather does not equal climate?

    Climate-change deniers shouldn’t claim weather tells anything, and those who favor climate change action shouldn’t pretend weather matters either.

  13. MoRings42 January 7th, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    Closer is a problem too. I’m not in the camp that is willing to just give the job to DRob. They tried that once and it didn’t work out too well. I saw a rumor the other day of Ichiro for Putz. They have similar deals 1yr/6-7 mil. Dbacks have no use for Putz and yanks don’t use Ichiro right so it makes sense.

  14. Yankee Trader January 7th, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    On Tanaka from Japanese news:

    The media learned on Monday that former Rakuten Eagles Public Relations Manager Yoshiki Sato will provide Masahiro Tanaka with support in the United States. Tanaka will also reportedly have a personal interpreter.

    Source: Sanspo 1/7/2014

    Tanaka has been working out in the Kanto region with players like Shinichiro Koyama and Takahiro Norimoto since the 4th. His workouts in the region will continue through to the 17th.

    Source: Sponichi 1/7/2014

  15. bigdan22 January 7th, 2014 at 4:00 pm

    Bret,

    I think I’ve said my peace on this and it seems like we fundamentally disagree. That’s fine. I will say this though, from a general policy standpoint I think attempting to wean the world off fossil fuels is a good thing. And I believe sustainability ought to be a central tenant of this country’s foreign and domestic policy for the rest of this century at least. I just don’t believe in these things because of “global warming.” The global warming fixation is like trying to solve a beach erosion problem by looking at one grain of sand.

    Just for the record, I’m pretty sure I’ve never represented any energy companies but I’m sure my partners have :).

  16. Irreverent Discourse January 7th, 2014 at 4:01 pm

    I dread even looking back at previous threads, are there really people here that want Putz and his broken arm on this team?

    What can be done to talk you guys out of this desire to waste money and resources on the bullpen.

    They need like 3 SP’s. Hopefully they already have 2 of them but… maybe they don’t.

  17. mick January 7th, 2014 at 4:03 pm

    Why do we guarantee money to Roberets , however small. as that seems to be an issue, when we do not know if he can play?

    It would seem like of the positions 2B would be more of a platoon deal than 3B, as I expect Alex to be back in June. So if a Johnson/Roberts/Baker crap shoot evolves at 2nd, so be it.

    They really do need Alex production at 3rd.

  18. bigdan22 January 7th, 2014 at 4:04 pm

    YT, love that movie.

    That writer is phenomenal.

  19. RayVT January 7th, 2014 at 4:04 pm

    Bret The Hitman January 7th, 2014 at 2:29 pm

    Bret is right about the CO2 & global warming. Nothing is simple when it comes to the eco system. Solar power uses Beryllium to make the heat transfer for solar panels efficient and smaller but Beryllium is a very nasty toxic waste. Solar panels with Beryllium have been banned in Europe due to the international agreement called Removal of Hazardous Substances (ROHS). The Beryllium is still used in the US because US Manufacturers got a moratorium approved to use it here even though it will kill a lot of people & contaminate the water supply. Also, when large groups of Solar collector fields are used they pinpoint their panels to follow the sun and their reflections act as pinpoint lasers which burn holes in the Ozone layer thus causing even more problems. Also Solar panels need to be cleaned continuously to maintain efficiency and are optimal in dry & warm/hot areas where the liquid (High % of water) is least prevalent.
    Windmills just received a similar immunity for killing Eagles & Bats by the millions in the name of eco-friendly & green energy. Also, windmills don’t operate efficiently during the day because the wind streams are peak at night. Note that the US has an abundance (surplus) of energy at night but the US requires electric companies to buy windmill power at peak prices whenever it is available which causes the consumer to pay more and the utilities to waste power.
    While I like green energy in concept it isn’t there yet & our planet is suffering dramatically.

    Go Yankees! Hopefully the tidal changes due to global warming won’t wash out & cover Yankee Stadium!

  20. blake January 7th, 2014 at 4:05 pm

    I dread even looking back at previous threads, are there really people here that want Putz and his broken arm on this team?”

    In exchange for Ichiro who is mostly useless though? Why not

  21. Irreverent Discourse January 7th, 2014 at 4:06 pm

    blake – The Diamondbacks are trading for Ichiro for what reason?

    I’d rather ask Ichiro if he can pitch. :p

  22. mick January 7th, 2014 at 4:07 pm

    YT-Good job. Big fan of Being There.

  23. blake January 7th, 2014 at 4:07 pm

    Irreverent Discourse says:
    January 7, 2014 at 4:06 pm
    blake – The Diamondbacks are trading for Ichiro for what reason?

    I’d rather ask Ichiro if he can pitch. :p

    Probbaly aren’t but it was just speculation…..

  24. mick January 7th, 2014 at 4:08 pm

    Bret -I’m wondering if your hottub/Sauna idea would help cure my excess phlegm problem?

    Any advise?

  25. mick January 7th, 2014 at 4:09 pm

    Just got back from Mitty.
    Cute.

  26. bbb51 January 7th, 2014 at 4:09 pm

    Killing eagles and bats by the millions? I don’t believe it.

  27. Bret The Hitman January 7th, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    Just for the record, I’m pretty sure I’ve never represented any energy companies but I’m sure my partners have :)

    _________________

    Yeah I figured you are big time. But just remember, the only person who can wrestle with an attorney is:

    a)Another attorney

    b)A scientist

    c)Your wife

  28. blake January 7th, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    @CaseyStern: Marty Noble basically tells us #InsidePitch @MLBNetworkRadio only voted for 3 players because more makes ceremony way too long/not special

    Lol….this thing is hilarious

  29. Bret The Hitman January 7th, 2014 at 4:11 pm

    Mick,

    Vitamin D levels are lowest in the winter and D alerts immune cells to pathogens like bacteria and viruses. So you need to boost your D fast. Go to the doctor, screen for D and when found to be low, ask for a pharmaceutical dose. I bet you get it.

  30. MoRings42 January 7th, 2014 at 4:13 pm

    Irreverent Discourse January 7th, 2014 at 4:01 pm

    I dread even looking back at previous threads, are there really people here that want Putz and his broken arm on this team?

    ——–

    Want? no. Need? Yes.

    Yankees have a few too many outfielders at the moment. Putz worth to the team is more than Ichiro/Wells at this point.

  31. mick January 7th, 2014 at 4:14 pm

    Ok Bret but I just want to break up this cold/flu right now…but thanks.

  32. RayVT January 7th, 2014 at 4:15 pm

    bigdan22 January 7th, 2014 at 4:00 pm

    The US has done satellite infrared scans of the earth for many years now and the massive area of global warming is significant & consistently increasing. There is legitimate scientific proof that it is warming & that CO2 is the cause.

    What is often questioned is the significance of this warming or lack thereof. This is the area scientist argue. Most of us common folk take it to a totally different concept because IMO that is the level most folks understand. ID said we shouldn’t use local weather for or against global warming & ID is exactly right.

    Another issue is the number of trees/forest being destroyed that absorb CO2 & also the amount of ocean water being destroyed. Note the oceans produce 80% (memory) of the earths Oxygen which is kind of critical.

  33. bigdan22 January 7th, 2014 at 4:15 pm

    bbb51 January 7th, 2014 at 4:09 pm

    “Killing eagles and bats by the millions? I don’t believe it.”

    _________

    Probably too many of them anyway. For those green and non-green folks out there, you gotta read the cover story about wildlife in North America in Time about a month ago. I’ve been saying this to my friends for awhile. Things are crazy out there. The recovery of fauna over the last 50 years is astounding. Black bears dominate northern NJ. My sister deal with them regularly. Bucks walk up my mom’s street in the suburbs of NY. I live in LA and coyotes look at me like “what do want from me?” Alpha predator populations are exploding. A cougar lives in my backyard hunting deer every night. 10 years ago conservation experts would have never thought that was impossible.

    I think it’s awesome.

  34. Bret The Hitman January 7th, 2014 at 4:19 pm

    Deforestation is a huge contributor to excess CO2. Trees remove CO2 from the atmosphere (and convert it to O2 for animal life). Every time you cut down a tree, the tree releases stored carbon and you have one less tree to absorb CO2. Of course, the same businesses that chop down forests are the ones planting monoculture crops for commercial farms (corn, wheat, soybeans) and the same ones invested in the petroleum required for food production, processing, packaging, transportation, holding and retail. That is why supermarket chains like Ingles in the South have their own brand of gas and you can buy gas after you shop for gas-produced groceries that you pick up in your gas fueled vehicle.

    It all boils down to energy and who controls it.

    They do.

    We pay.

    In more ways than one.

  35. Irreverent Discourse January 7th, 2014 at 4:20 pm

    I’d be willing to bet that the “it’s cold outside, climate change is BS” crowd are the same chicken little’s that overreact to every pitch during the game-day threads. :)

  36. bigdan22 January 7th, 2014 at 4:20 pm

    RayVT January 7th, 2014 at 4:15 pm
    bigdan22 January 7th, 2014 at 4:00 pm

    “Another issue is the number of trees/forest being destroyed that absorb CO2 & also the amount of ocean water being destroyed. Note the oceans produce 80% (memory) of the earths Oxygen which is kind of critical.”

    ——–

    But that’s also completely renewable. Look at that Time piece I mentioned. When Europeans first came to the east coast of North America, they deforested the land in just a few generations. Now there are more forests in Eastern North America than when they first arrived.

  37. mick January 7th, 2014 at 4:20 pm

    Animals are taking over? That would not be awesome.

  38. blake January 7th, 2014 at 4:21 pm

    When I listen to some of these writers justify their HOF vote it’s so sad…..because so many of them aren’t qualified to vote. I mean this one guy only voted for 3 players because he didn’t want the ceremony to be too long

  39. Irreverent Discourse January 7th, 2014 at 4:21 pm

    The ocean is the largest carbon sink on the planet, actually… not plants. There are studies that suggest it is nearly full.

  40. JobaTipsHisCap January 7th, 2014 at 4:22 pm

    Mussina in HOF.

  41. mick January 7th, 2014 at 4:23 pm

    Some guy left Maddux off cuz he played in the steroid era.
    His only vote was for Morris.

  42. Yankee Trader January 7th, 2014 at 4:23 pm

    Back to baseball from Its About the Money on trading Gardner for Bailey

    “While I personally remain a big fan of Bailey, I’m not so sure the Yankees should part with a position player like Gardner for a non-ace starting pitcher. If the Yankees want to acquire another starting pitcher, their best bet is likely to wait for desperation from free agents, as it seems some pitchers may lower their asking price or even take a one year deal to rebuild their value for the 2015 offseason. The Yankees have already been connected to Ubaldo Jimenez, and with his history of struggles and draft pick issues, I think there’s a case the Yankees swoop in on a one-year deal in late January. This gives Jimenez a chance to prove himself for the 2015 season, and it gives the Yankees a chance to lose their second round pick and potentially gain a first round compensation pick in the 2015 draft.”

    I don’t see Jimenez having to settle for a one year, prove last season’s second half wasn’t a fluke, contract in this market.

  43. Bret The Hitman January 7th, 2014 at 4:23 pm

    Mick,

    Totally experimental but try drinking 1 bottle of chilled Nordic Naturals cod liver oil. It retails for $25 and comes in orange flavor or lemon flavor. It comes in a blue glass bottle.

    It might have enough activation-ready vitamin D to alert and awaken your immune cells to fight whatever pathogen you’re reacting to resulting in phlegm.

  44. tomingeorgia January 7th, 2014 at 4:24 pm

    big dan,
    Until that cougar decides to broaden his diet. I’ve got foxes, coyotes, bears and a bunch of other critters that were hunted to extinction around here a hundred years or more ago around here. Shine a bright falsh light after midnight, and you hear a resounding “WE’RE BACK!” The deer are so thick that the annual bag limit per hunter is 12,

  45. mick January 7th, 2014 at 4:26 pm

    If animals were stupid enough to think they could rule it would mean their extinction and they know it.

    If they move to some cushy suburban neighborhood and think they can get away with something they will be met with mass extermination.

    They do have an intellect.

  46. RayVT January 7th, 2014 at 4:26 pm

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-G.....-of-Eagles

    Hundreds of thousands of birds die each year flying into the deadly turbine blades atop the soaring towers that compose wind farms. The rule will give wind farms thirty year permits for the “non purposeful take of eagles-that is where the take is associated with but not the purpose of, the activity.’’ The take of eagles is also a euphemism for the slaughter of them.

    The wind farms fulfill Obama’s ambitious pursuit of developing renewable energy sources. Unfortunately, some bird species being destroyed by the turbines are not renewable. As a result, Obama finds himself wedged between the ire of opposing green groups. In July, wildlife groups met with administration officials and lobbied against the granting of 30 year permits for energy companies that own the wind farms.

    Wildlife groups are advocating shorter leases and insist that a 30-year free pass for eagle “taking” is too long. They argue that before we are stuck with three decades of the rule, there are still some unanswered questions about how to prevent the destroying of the birds. Julie Falkner, the Defenders of Wildlife’s Senior Director of Renewable Energy Programs pondered, “The question is what is the science telling us about how to prevent eagle takings, and we’re still waiting for the science to tell us how that works.”

  47. blake January 7th, 2014 at 4:26 pm

    “Totally experimental but try drinking 1 bottle of chilled Nordic Naturals cod liver oil. It retails for $25 and comes in orange flavor or lemon flavor. It comes in a blue glass bottle.”

    I’m feeling a little sick

  48. Bret The Hitman January 7th, 2014 at 4:27 pm

    Mick’s ass would surely fall out if he did drink it, but it could give him the fast relief he seeks from the phlegm.

  49. mick January 7th, 2014 at 4:28 pm

    Bret, It’s just an ordinary cold/flu thats healing itself. I must have enough D to fight it off as I get a little better every day. Just not used to it, don’t get many. Think my flu shot helped .

  50. blake January 7th, 2014 at 4:29 pm

    Marty noble says he only voted for 3 players …Maddux, Glavine, and Morris because he didn’t want the ceremony to be too long…..and he didn’t vote for Biggio and Piazza because some guys he talked to thinks they used steroids, and he thinks Clemens had roid rage when he threw the bat at Piazza that time.

    These are the guys that vote for the HOF

  51. bigdan22 January 7th, 2014 at 4:29 pm

    tomingeorgia January 7th, 2014 at 4:24 pm
    big dan,
    Until that cougar decides to broaden his diet. I’ve got foxes, coyotes, bears and a bunch of other critters that were hunted to extinction around here a hundred years or more ago around here. Shine a bright falsh light after midnight, and you hear a resounding “WE’RE BACK!” The deer are so thick that the annual bag limit per hunter is 12,

    ——–

    It’s crazy isn’t it. You’re right. Big rebound for foxes too. There’s like 30MM deer in North America now, more than probably ever in the history of the planet. They are huge pest back east. Eat everything and get folks sick with ticks. I’m in favor of really increasing the grey wolf population to control all this. I won’t be happy until wolf packs start taking over golf courses!

  52. mick January 7th, 2014 at 4:29 pm

    if my ass falling off means a case of the runs well forget that…there’s always a price.

  53. Bret The Hitman January 7th, 2014 at 4:30 pm

    If the flu shot was all it’s cracked up to be maybe you wouldn’t have gotten sick in the first place, Mick.

  54. blake January 7th, 2014 at 4:30 pm

    I would just try drinking lots of water Mick….maybe a western medicine expectorant :)

  55. blake January 7th, 2014 at 4:31 pm

    Bret,
    Do your finger nails grow like crazy takin that much D?

  56. blake January 7th, 2014 at 4:32 pm

    Bret The Hitman says:
    January 7, 2014 at 4:30 pm
    If the flu shot was all it’s cracked up to be maybe you wouldn’t have gotten sick in the first place, Mick.

    Probably is a cold

  57. Bret The Hitman January 7th, 2014 at 4:32 pm

    Yeah, you might not be able to absorb all of the fatty acid in cod liver oil. If your ass did fall out, that might mean you have fat malabsorption which can lower the ability of your digestion to retain and absorb fat soluble vitamins A, D, E and K. Or it might mean that you ate too much oil in one sitting. Maybe split the bottle into quarters :lol:

  58. mick January 7th, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    The flu shot doesn’t eliminate the flu, but it can dissipate it. Since we never get straight answrs, I’m going with that, if I didn’t get the shot, this minor case I got, would have been major.

  59. Bret The Hitman January 7th, 2014 at 4:34 pm

    Blake,

    My fingernails and hair are shimmery and fast-growing. My teeth glow. Of course vitamin D increases absorption of calcium in the diet. My full head of hair is the envy of my 3 balding siblings.

  60. ac1 January 7th, 2014 at 4:35 pm

    Just had the pleasure of reading Mark Teixiera’s analysis on climate change.
    God I hope he was joking because I believed he was smarter than the average hick who things that global warming doesn’t exist because it is cold outside.

  61. Irreverent Discourse January 7th, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    More birds die from crashing into glass windows on tall buildings and standing on power lines than are killed by wind turbines.

  62. bigdan22 January 7th, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    The greatest recent conservation story is probably the California condor, my state bird. Only a few years ago there where just a handful left and were all collected and put into captivity to hopefully procreate. Now they are back on the loose and you can actually see them in certain parts of California. The largest wingspan on the planet, I think it’s 9 feet. They roost in the most remote places, right on the peaks of mountains. That’s good too, because they are pretty ugly up close :)

  63. mick January 7th, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    colds are so variable. it comes in waves. remember the night this started i could feel the drip and then the slight cough. this heightened as the days went on. having had pneumonia i can say it is not fun and usually results in being put on an antibiotic which i am hoping to avoid this time.

  64. blake January 7th, 2014 at 4:37 pm

    “My fingernails and hair are shimmery and fast-growing. My teeth glow. Of course vitamin D increases absorption of calcium in the diet. My full head of hair is the envy of my 3 balding siblings.”

    Lol

  65. Bret The Hitman January 7th, 2014 at 4:37 pm

    It’s official, no more framing windows into homes or tall buildings and no more power lines.

  66. Bret The Hitman January 7th, 2014 at 4:39 pm

    Mick,

    Remember an anti-biotic kills all your gut biology, good and bad bacteria alike and you need the good biotics to fight the bad biotics. So start taking probiotics before it comes to that and if it comes to that, take probiotics afterwards to restore your good bacteria levels closer to normal.

  67. mick January 7th, 2014 at 4:39 pm

    REcently I witnessed a huge bird sitting atop a dugout at a local field clutching a squirrel in her talons.
    Folks walked by in awe to look at it.
    It looked about 150 lbs and filthy.

  68. Irreverent Discourse January 7th, 2014 at 4:39 pm

    Bret – The market has spoken. :p

    blake – I’ve argued for years that the writers have no clue when it comes to HOF voting anymore. Before TV, it used to be that they were the only people that watched enough baseball games to form an opinion… but those days are long gone and the BBWAA should go with them.

  69. mick January 7th, 2014 at 4:41 pm

    Bret
    How does the probiotic Align effect the digestive tract, do you know firsthand?

  70. RayVT January 7th, 2014 at 4:41 pm

    bigdan22 January 7th, 2014 at 4:20 pm

    The US does a great job of forest replacement. Africa, South America & China, not so much.

  71. mick January 7th, 2014 at 4:42 pm

    These writers must feel like the gen pop in a prez election.
    There vote doesn’t matter, and won’t effect the outcome, so draw attention to yourself, build your twitter following by being outrageous.

  72. Irreverent Discourse January 7th, 2014 at 4:42 pm

    mick – Fermented foods like Sauerkraut also restore your gut bacteria.

    Today’s thread reads like a self help book. :p

  73. bigdan22 January 7th, 2014 at 4:43 pm

    mick January 7th, 2014 at 4:39 pm
    REcently I witnessed a huge bird sitting atop a dugout at a local field clutching a squirrel in her talons.
    Folks walked by in awe to look at it.
    It looked about 150 lbs and filthy.

    ———

    Sounds like a turkey vulture because of the size. They prefer carrion so that might have been road kill. I’ve got red-tail hawks all around me in LA. Their population is booming now. They like to eat what they kill. I’ve seen them with squirrels. Hate squirrels. They eat all my apricots and break my tree limbs because they are so fat.

  74. RayVT January 7th, 2014 at 4:43 pm

    Bret The Hitman January 7th, 2014 at 4:23 pm

    Actually Melatonin helps heal the immune system too.

  75. blake January 7th, 2014 at 4:43 pm

    Eat some frozen yogurt mick

  76. bigdan22 January 7th, 2014 at 4:44 pm

    RayVT January 7th, 2014 at 4:41 pm
    bigdan22 January 7th, 2014 at 4:20 pm

    The US does a great job of forest replacement. Africa, South America & China, not so much

    ——

    To me, that’s should be a huge international priority and the kind of work the UN should be doing rather than trying to resolve political disputes.

  77. RayVT January 7th, 2014 at 4:45 pm

    Irreverent Discourse January 7th, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    That isn’t true anymore with all the new wind farms constructed.

  78. mick January 7th, 2014 at 4:47 pm

    I won’t be happy until wolf packs start taking over golf courses!
    =============
    Since I don’t golf, yeah they should go for it.
    Can picture them in their knickers out there wise cracking about the dumb people who can’t hit straight.
    Guess it wouldn’t be PC to shoot them down at that point.

  79. blake January 7th, 2014 at 4:47 pm

    Bret how much D3 did you say you are taking a day?

  80. mick January 7th, 2014 at 4:48 pm

    what will frozen yogurt do Blake?
    I do love Ben n Jerry Cherry Garcia.

  81. RayVT January 7th, 2014 at 4:50 pm

    bigdan22 January 7th, 2014 at 4:44 pm

    I totally agree with you Dan!!!

    BTW, the US sells record amounts of coal & oil & natural gas overseas especially to China. (So does South America) The Canadian oil piping into the US that was debated during our elections was completed & almost all of it is sold overseas at a huge profit & not used in the US. Free enterprise at work.

  82. blake January 7th, 2014 at 4:50 pm

    mick says:
    January 7, 2014 at 4:48 pm
    what will frozen yogurt do Blake?
    I do love Ben n Jerry Cherry Garcia.

    Yogurt has probiotics in it….

  83. Irreverent Discourse January 7th, 2014 at 4:50 pm

    RayVT – I found the list I was referring to, and I forgot the obvious number 1 killer of birds. Cats!

    Feral and domestic cats – Hundreds of millions [source: AWEA]
    Power lines – 130 million — 174 million [source: AWEA]
    Windows (residential and commercial) – 100 million — 1 billion [source: TreeHugger]
    Pesticides – 70 million [source: AWEA]
    Automobiles – 60 million — 80 million [source: AWEA]
    Lighted communication towers – 40 million — 50 million [source: AWEA]
    Wind turbines – 10,000 — 40,000 [source: ABC]

    Don’t believe everything you read on Breitbart. Or anything you read on it, either way.

  84. blake January 7th, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    Won’t do anything for your congestion however

  85. RayVT January 7th, 2014 at 4:54 pm

    Irreverent Discourse

    The windmills are built to capture the wind currents which are also the paths of migratory birds. Windmills kill millions of birds every year. Also, if the winds get too high they have to turn the windmills off or they will be destroyed & in bad weather if the snow/ice get on the blades they have to stop them too or the turbine blades will be destroyed.

    I have the pleasure to see windmill, solar, coal, natural gas, nuclear & misc power control centers and get to see power grid loads & availability. When it rains or snows or gets dark the solar goes out.

  86. bigdan22 January 7th, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    mick January 7th, 2014 at 4:47 pm
    I won’t be happy until wolf packs start taking over golf courses!
    =============
    Since I don’t golf, yeah they should go for it.
    Can picture them in their knickers out there wise cracking about the dumb people who can’t hit straight.
    Guess it wouldn’t be PC to shoot them down at that point.

    ________

    Haha, I was being a bit facetious but actually the only natural solution to the deer problem would be expanding the wolf population. Of course that’s not going to happen. Humans and wolves don’t get along. We’ll have to limit them to wilderness areas. Coyotes and humans are another story entirely. In the next 20 years coyotes will be obvious everywhere in the US, even in cities. They are one the smartest and adaptable creatures on the planet. They know how to both mingle with and avoid humans to their best advantage. And they’ll eat almost anything.

    As far as deer go, look for a lot more hunting. And a whole lot of venison on the menu :)

  87. mick January 7th, 2014 at 4:56 pm

    Is there a windmill farm or whatever it is called on Rt 81 in PA somewhere?
    I thought I saw that in my travels..

  88. luis January 7th, 2014 at 4:56 pm

    Sorry for the little hiatus,

    Bret,

    I am all for environmentally friendly kind of energy…I do believe that people should be environmentally conscious… But what is happening is far more complex than human CO2 emissions… I brought a few facts ( how NYC temps have increased while Albany’s have decreased and they are very close. This phenomenon repeats itself in every part of the world )… I told you the ice in the Antarctica is growing for the first time in 5 thousand years… The polar bear population has grown 5 fold since 1973 ( 5000 to 25000 )…What I am saying is that scientist really don’t know what’s happening and why the climate is changing… We had a very warm period during the middle ages ( which by the way, has thrown the hockey stick theory in to the garbage bin )… Personally, I believe that the axis wobble of the Earth rotation has more to do with the climate than CO2 emissions… But the truth is that that they don’t know what’s going on.

    Back a few days ago when we discussed oil, I told you that it is still the cheapest source of energy…And the main reasons for it’s price hike has been China’s and India’s growth ( the former is consuming 25 million barrels per day while it used to consume less than 4 million barrels 20 years ago, not to the same degree but it is the same case for India ) and governments regulations, bans and taxes… On one side you have the oil producing governments that want the price high instead of selling for volume ( which I think is dumb business wise ) and on the other you have the developed countries that want the price high as well, so alternative energy sources become economically viable…

  89. Irreverent Discourse January 7th, 2014 at 4:59 pm

    RayVT – “When it rains or snows or gets dark the solar goes out.”

    Come on, if you know what you seem to know, you also know that what you just said is silly. They can and do store energy, it doesn’t get instantly sucked into the power grid.

    A combination of technologies that don’t involve lighting things on fire are the long term solution. Not any one of them, all of them.

  90. Ys Guy January 7th, 2014 at 4:59 pm

    david robertson has gotten better every year and his role has grown every year as a result. last year he flat outpitched mariano. mariano says robertson is ready. he’s a yankees product. he pitched better than bailey or any other reliever who is available.

    i dont see why people dont trust him, he’s got everything he needs to be an excellent closer and barring injury or the yankees f’in up and bringing in some old closer he will succeed.

    bring in a set up guy and another loogy, we already have our closer.

  91. blake January 7th, 2014 at 4:59 pm

    the blog nutritional advice might just kill mick.”

    Well Bret did advise him to drink a bottle of cod oil……. :)

  92. mick January 7th, 2014 at 5:00 pm

    Why can’t dinosaurs make a comeback?
    Did they really ever exist?

  93. blake January 7th, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    mick says:
    January 7, 2014 at 5:00 pm
    Why can’t dinosaurs make a comeback?
    Did they really ever exist?

    They didn’t take their vitamin D

  94. mick January 7th, 2014 at 5:02 pm

    Was bret serious when he told me to drink a bottle of cod oil?
    sounds like a fratboy prank pulled on him in college…

  95. blake January 7th, 2014 at 5:03 pm

    Some moonshine would cure you mick

  96. mick January 7th, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    blake i agree, a litlle alcohol would sweat it out of me.
    its why i’m thinking of the sauna tomorrow

  97. RayVT January 7th, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    Irreverent Discourse January 7th, 2014 at 4:59 pm

    LOL! If they indeed could store energy really then we wouldn’t need all these power plants. I am an eco-friendly engineer. My preferred power is Nuclear & it has some issues too.

  98. bigdan22 January 7th, 2014 at 5:05 pm

    mick January 7th, 2014 at 5:00 pm
    Why can’t dinosaurs make a comeback?
    Did they really ever exist?

    _______

    Haha dinos. Now that’s right up there with baseball and Star Trek.

    I’ve often thought, if dinosaurs didn’t exist, would humans have the imagination to create them?

    When reviewing the entire history of mankind, of art, of science, nothing is as fantastic as a dinosaur.

  99. mick January 7th, 2014 at 5:06 pm

    those windmills might have been around harrisburgh PA

  100. Irreverent Discourse January 7th, 2014 at 5:07 pm

    RayVT – “Some issues” indeed… lol

  101. mick January 7th, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    When reviewing the entire history of mankind, of art, of science, nothing is as fantastic as a dinosaur.
    =============
    And now they’re just gone? boom!
    Just like that…? not buying it.

    where would they live now?
    nowhere to hide, nowhere to run?

  102. Irreverent Discourse January 7th, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    RayVT – Geothermal, tidal and then solar are my bets for the long term… if we survive nuclear power that is.

    Better visit Japan while it’s still legal to do so! :p

  103. luis January 7th, 2014 at 5:10 pm

    bigdan,

    I don’t know, but I think the “Andes Condor” is the bird with the largest wind span…But they could both be the same species ;)

  104. bigdan22 January 7th, 2014 at 5:14 pm

    http://articles.latimes.com/20.....n-20131005

    P22, my backyard friend.

  105. tomingeorgia January 7th, 2014 at 5:16 pm

    God help us all! Baseball news, STAT!

  106. bigdan22 January 7th, 2014 at 5:17 pm

    luis January 7th, 2014 at 5:10 pm
    bigdan,

    I don’t know, but I think the “Andes Condor” is the bird with the largest wind span…But they could both be the same species ;)

    _______

    I believe it’s the same bird. It has two natural habitats, California and Peru. But hopefully they’ll show up at park near you!

  107. bigdan22 January 7th, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    tomingeorgia January 7th, 2014 at 5:16 pm
    God help us all! Baseball news, STAT!

    ——-

    Shoot up a flare when you find some!

  108. MTU January 7th, 2014 at 5:19 pm

    I’ll change things up w few photos from yesterday’s trip to the middle of nowhere :

    https://picasaweb.google.com/109721757058432487394/CoyoteButtes?authkey=Gv1sRgCInRuvDXnpfuEw#

    Enjoy.

    :)

  109. RayVT January 7th, 2014 at 5:20 pm

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ab.....udy-shows/

  110. MTU January 7th, 2014 at 5:21 pm

    Luis-

    I passed California Condor release site in my travels yesterday.

    It’s out in the Vermillion Cliffs.

    :)

  111. MTU January 7th, 2014 at 5:21 pm

    Wingspan on a Cal Condor is 9.5 ft.

  112. luis January 7th, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    “Breaking news”!!!

    Tanaka goes to the bathroom every once in while every day! ;)

  113. tomingeorgia January 7th, 2014 at 5:23 pm

    MTU,
    To imagine all that was under an inland sea! Climate change, indeed!

  114. MTU January 7th, 2014 at 5:24 pm

    Luis-

    Betcha he puts his pants on one leg at a time too.

    And wipes w his dominant hand.

    ;)

  115. luis January 7th, 2014 at 5:24 pm

    MTU,

    Beautiful picks…Thanks for sharing them..You are one lucky putz!

  116. Irreverent Discourse January 7th, 2014 at 5:25 pm

    RayVT – Somehow I doubt that the “giant windmill” approach is the safest or even most efficient method to collecting wind power. It’s simply the first.

    The faux concern for wildlife at the expense of the future of the human race is a nice sentiment though :p

  117. luis January 7th, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    MTU January 7th, 2014 at 5:24 pm
    Luis-

    Betcha he puts his pants on one leg at a time too.

    And wipes w his dominant hand.

    =============================

    I wonder if he bows to the mirror afterwards ;)

  118. MTU January 7th, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    Mister Tom-

    Utah has been submerged many times during Earth history.

    During one of the Epochs it was the edge on an inland Sea and was quite tropical.

  119. MTU January 7th, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    New one ——–>

  120. JCPD January 7th, 2014 at 5:30 pm

    Great pics as usual Mike

  121. MTU January 7th, 2014 at 5:55 pm

    Thanks Jim.

    Much appreciated.

    For various reasons it’s was over 3 weeks since I touched a camera.

    That has to be a record for me.

    I was getting withdrawal symptoms.

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