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Girardi on A-Rod: “I’m not so sure the process is over”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 13, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Alex Rodriguez, Joe Girardi

At long last, arbitrator Fredric Horowitz has announced his decision. His ruling came on Saturday, a full-season suspension for Alex Rodriguez, and that should have brought some much-needed clarity for the Yankees. But their manager isn’t so sure.

“It’s been a long process,” Joe Girardi said. “But I’m not so sure the process is over.”

Speaking after an event at the Harvey School in Katonah, Girardi said he remains concerned about Rodriguez — “I worry about my players because, more than anything, we’re people before we ever played,” he said — and he’s not considering Saturday’s announcement as the final act in this saga. Girardi knows Rodriguez is trying to have the suspension blocked by a federal judge, and Girardi seems to be keeping himself mentally prepared for any new twist in a story that’s already full of them.

He’s also preparing himself to enter the season without an everyday third baseman.

“I think we’ll handle it from within, the players we have, if (Rodriguez) is not a player for us,” Girardi said. “We have Kelly Johnson, and then we’ll probably try to platoon him with a right-handed bat. Obviously Nuney’s got a shot at it, and we signed (Scott) Sizemore, and there’s other players we will look at. We’re just going to have to deal with it.”

NunezGirardi’s comments echoed a growing sense that the Yankees are not planning to make a major move to acquire a new third baseman, but will instead try to mix and match, searching through a series of less-established options to find a platoon partner for Johnson. And Girardi said Eduardo Nunez might very well be that platoon partner. Girard said the Yankees were encouraged by the way Nunez performed — both offensively and defensively — while playing a lot of third base late last season. Nunez hit .295/.321/.487 in the month of September.

“I think we have to give him a good look,” Girardi said. “He played really well. I do, I think we have to give him a look. … (Whether he can handle the position defensively) is something we’re going to have to determine.”

A few other notes from Girardi last night

Joe GirardiBrian Roberts might be close to an everyday guy
Girardi acknowledged that he’s not entirely sure Roberts can play every single day, but he certainly seems to leaning toward making Roberts his regular second baseman, not a part of some second base platoon.
“I think he can help us a lot,” Girardi said. “I think it’s something, I’ll sit down and have a conversation and try to get a feel what he thinks the optimal level of games that he’s going to play, but we’d like to play him pretty often.”

Derek Jeter is still the shortstop
Still no indication that Jeter will be playing any position other than shortstop next season, and the plan is still for Jeter to play the position fairly regularly. Girardi acknowledged that he’ll have to give Jeter some DH days and might have to rest him more than usual, but that doesn’t mean Jeter won’t be the regular guy at shortstop.
“There’s nothing that tells me he won’t be,” Girardi said. “But until you get out there and play, I don’t think any of us really knows 100 percent.”

Positive reports on all the injured guys
Girardi said Jeter is doing his “normal January workouts,” and that Mark Teixeira has started swinging, and that CC Sabathia has reported no physical setbacks this offseason. In fact, Girardi told the crowd at Harvey: “I think we we’ll see a really good CC this year.”

Pitching, pitching, pitching
The Yankees might not be in the market for an everyday third baseman, but they’re certainly in the market for some pitching. “We still have some work to do,” Girardi said. “And there’s a lot of decisions to be made because you think about our bullpen, there’s a lot of open spots. Right now there’s two open spots in the rotation. There’s a lot of decisions to be made. … My focus is really going to be probably in spring training, pitching and third base.”
For whatever it’s worth, Girardi said he fully believes Masahiro Tanaka would thrive in New York.

Odds and ends
Girardi said once again that Dave Robertson will have the best chance at winning the closer job, but Girardi wouldn’t name Robertson the closer already. … How many games Jeter plays in the field will be determined by the way Jeter feels: “He’ll make that decision for me,” Girardi said. … On Michael Pineda: “We are hoping that he is in our rotation.” … During the Harvey School event, Girardi was asked by someone in the crowd what he’s most looking forward to in 2014. Girardi’s response: “Winning.”

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303 Responses to “Girardi on A-Rod: “I’m not so sure the process is over””

  1. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:07 am

    Good Morning.

    I’m keeping my eyes on the prize.

    I look to the future an not the past.

    ;)

  2. Yankee Trader January 13th, 2014 at 9:10 am

    86-

    John Rocker- rood rage on the highway.

    However I asked which players with Hall of Fame credentials, do you expect played for Bobby Cox?

  3. Yankee Trader January 13th, 2014 at 9:10 am

    *road*

  4. Cashmoney January 13th, 2014 at 9:12 am

    “We still have some work to do,” Girardd said. “And there’s a lot of decisions to be made because you think about our bullpen, there’s a lot of open spots. Right now there’s two open spots in the rotation. There’s a lot of decisions to be made.

  5. Yankee Trader January 13th, 2014 at 9:13 am

    What was the source of that rumor posted last night that the Yankees were offering 7-9 years and 170-200 million. If they are going to go to that stratosphere, the opt out better be mutual!

  6. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 9:17 am

    From MLBTR

    The Yankees have not made any recent attempts to trade for Padres third baseman Chase Headley, Andy Martino of the New York Daily News tweets.

    ______________

    I believe he’s a mid-season target, when it’s clear he’s a 1/2 year rental. The Padres want to much right now and they’re delusional about signing him.

    Headley is your 3B in the playoffs and they’ll lock him up long term after completion of 2014, slide Jeter to DH and block Arod.

    Arod’s choice will be to accept a trade (to his preferred destination like Miami) or ride the bench for the rest of his career.

    And I predict the team acquiring him will pay 10 mil per year with the Yankees eating the rest.

    Ellsbury-CF
    Jeter-SS
    Beltran-DH/RF
    Soriano-LF/DH
    Headley-3B/1B
    McCann-C/DH
    Teixeira-1B
    Kelly-2B
    Ichiro-RF/LF/CF

    Sabathia
    Tanaka
    Kuroda
    Jimenez
    Nova

  7. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:18 am

    YT-

    A Tweet out of Japan.

    Steve was seeking confirmation. He never got back to us so I have to assume he couldn’t find any.

    I think the odds of getting MT are in our favor.

  8. austinmac January 13th, 2014 at 9:19 am

    Right now we have replacement level or worse at 2B and 3B. First base and SS are prayers for health. We have three starters and 3-4 guys in the pen.

    Yes, they can stop spending and if the team thought they lost income this year, they haven’t seen anything yet. A year when fans expect a mediocre team will start off with attendance in decline and go down from there.

    To my eyes, refusing to get good replacements at these positions tells me 189 is very much in play.

    In case you all haven’t been paying attention, Cashman is dumpster diving in the poverty stricken neighborhood.

  9. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:19 am

    Bret-

    Looks good. One of many possibilities.

    I like it.

    ;)

  10. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:21 am

    Mac-

    189 is so far gone you couldn’t see it w the Hubbell telescope.

    ;)

  11. Yankee Trader January 13th, 2014 at 9:22 am

    What is Girardi going to do to manage the current bullpen?

    Missing Rivera- now untested Robertson taking over with minimal closing experience since Girardi was manager.

    Matt Thornton taking over for trusted Boone Logan. Thornton was once dominating, but that was back in 2009.

    Shawn Kelley- had a nice year, after a very rough start. Nice slider, but not as nice as Jeff Nelson’s .
    Feel OK about the long relievers

    Then it’s a grab bag of short relievers- Claiborne who faded, Betances with control issues, Cabral as a second untested lefty, and a plethora of arms with major league experience but were mostly ineffectual, like Miller,etc.

    Better hope the starters can go 7 innings as a minimum.

    Cashman (Brian) you need another quality arm or two.

  12. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:22 am

    YT-

    I think JF was on it too.

  13. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:23 am

    YT-

    It’s going to happen.

    Calm yourself.

    :)

  14. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:24 am

    My beli9ef is that the new working budget is approx. 230 Mil.

    Plenty of headroom left.

    :)

  15. wanzies222 January 13th, 2014 at 9:24 am

    Tweet from last night was phoney-baloney.

    Back to the facts: Close will get with the finalists today or tomorrow and present proposed terms. Ma-kun to decide by Friday.

  16. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:26 am

    Bret-

    If the Yankees get Tanaka and Jiminez Nova is likely on the move for an IF.

    ;)

  17. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:27 am

    Steve-

    Glad to get that one out of the way.

    The rumor I mean.

    :)

  18. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 9:28 am

    MTU,

    I don’t think so. You can get Headley at the halfway mark without giving up Nova.

    2B is covered by Kelly.

    Jeter is the SS with a caddy Ryan.

  19. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:28 am

    What I don’t think is rumor is the Yankees being the front runner.

  20. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:29 am

    Bret-

    I think they might want a better long term option than Headley.

  21. austinmac January 13th, 2014 at 9:29 am

    MTU,

    I disagree. If it were gone, they would have money to sign guys like Baker. They would have money to sign relievers. Instead, they go the cheapest route possible for guys who haven’t played in two years or who are in their late 20s and still in the minors.

    They still have many holes and no inclination that I can see to fill them. Roberts is the regular second baseman? The O’s have been trying that unsuccessfully for three years. Johnson has 15 games in his career at third.

    With the starters they have they will need a great bullpen. Instead, right now they have one of the worst pens in the league.

    The bullpen has about ten total career saves and no eigth inning guy in sight.

    Rumors are just that. Actions are fact.

  22. austinmac January 13th, 2014 at 9:30 am

    MTU,

    I think they want a cheaper option than Headley. Exactly, where would a better one come from?

  23. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:31 am

    I still say 6/120 w an opt out after 4 makes a great deal of sense.

    The strong connection to Kuroda will also help our case.

    I’m at 60/40 maybe 70/30 right now.

  24. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 9:31 am

    MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:29 am

    Bret-

    I think they might want a better long term option than Headley.

    ___________

    Switch hitter, excellent defender and can cover first, hits to all fields, prime of his career, buy-low as a half-season rental.

    It’s about as good as it gets. And you keep Nova.

  25. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:33 am

    Mac-

    Things are in a sequential mode right now IMO.

    That is why you haven’t seen any other moves.

    Once the pitching is settled they’ll move on to filling other needs.

    Where would they come from ?

    For Nova ?

    Lot’s of potential places.

    :)

  26. blake January 13th, 2014 at 9:33 am

    If they can’t get Tanaka then I almost think they should dip under the cap and then prepare to go nuts next winter….Kershaw may or may not hit the market but there will still be more attractive options then than what’s left this year after Tanaka.

  27. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:34 am

    Bret-

    Really ?

    He’s almost 30.

    ;)

  28. Yankee Trader January 13th, 2014 at 9:34 am

    Per Cots and this is based on payroll obligations only, not AAV:

    Yankees at $155,536,709 for 13 players- Tex, CC, Ellsbury, Soriano, McCann, Kuroda, Beltran, Jeter, Suzuki, Thornton, Johnson, Roberts, Ryan

    Factors in ARod, Wells, and Cubs share of Soriano’s contract.

    Need to add arbitration cases for Gardner, Robertson, Kelley, Nova, Cervelli

    rest of 40 man roster, as well as all 40 player benefits

    And a cushion for in season trades/additions.

    Wanzies, Blake, hit man, Cashman, everyone-fill in the blanks. How close, over or under the 189 and by how much currently?

  29. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:34 am

    Blake-

    Not going to happen.

  30. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:35 am

    YT-

    They are there right now.

    There is no way they can stay under.

  31. austinmac January 13th, 2014 at 9:35 am

    YT,

    Ten ineffective arms is worse than one good one.

    The bullpen reminds me of the yankees.scout articles comparing the Yankees position by position with the Red Sox. Not surprisingly, we unsually win because the Sox only have two really good prospects, and we have ten prospects in the short season and Dominican league.

    We need some quality at two infield positions, as starters and in the pen. I had a lifetime supply of watching below replacement players in key roles last year. Right now, we may have at least as many this year.

  32. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 9:35 am

    You also can’t blatantly block Arod right now so you can’t get a guy under contract for multiple years. Headley can be brought in as a long-term fixture disguised by the Yankees PR as a post-season run addition.

  33. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:35 am

    At least no way that makes sense.

    ;)

  34. blake January 13th, 2014 at 9:37 am

    We don’t know if all of these guys will make it to free agency…..but Kershaw, Lester, Scherzer, Hanley, a headley, and Asdrubal all could…..

    If Hal decides to go over this year and then just drops the budget stuff for the near future then ok…..but he has to understand that it’s now or never to get under…..if they don’t now then it’s not happening anytime under this CBA. So as long as they get that I’m fine with them spending whatever…..

  35. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:37 am

    Mac-

    I understand skepticism but I think yours is reaching Galactic proportions.

    :)

  36. 86w183 January 13th, 2014 at 9:37 am

    David Justice and Gary Sheffield are probably the two best players Cox had who were tied to PEDs.

    gotta run…. have a day!

  37. austinmac January 13th, 2014 at 9:38 am

    I calculate they are at $181M with nineteen players accounted for including expected arbitration cases. No one should overly rely on that. It is my use of Cots and a calculator.

  38. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:38 am

    Bret-

    I’m fine w Headley.

    It’s just that Nova might become available and if he is they can do even better than Headley IMO.

    :)

  39. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:40 am

    Mac-

    You are not correct.

    The number is higher.

  40. austinmac January 13th, 2014 at 9:40 am

    MTU,

    If money was not paramount, why are they satisfied with the infield as it is? Is there one in baseball with more question marks? We have a big one at every spot.

    Cashman had said earlier Nunez was not going to play third. I guess he got better over the winter.

  41. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 9:41 am

    MTU,

    I’d rather have Headley at a half-rental price and keep Nova than pay full price for a 3B.

    2B can be covered by trading Gardner. But I think they will have to add Tanaka + Jimenez for that to happen.

  42. AAA January 13th, 2014 at 9:42 am

    No way anyone pays $10M of Arod’s salary in a trade. Doubt anyone pays even $5M.

  43. austinmac January 13th, 2014 at 9:42 am

    MTU,

    You base that statement uopon what?

  44. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 9:43 am

    You’d be surprised what owners would do to sell tickets.

  45. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:43 am

    Blake-

    The straightjacket that was 189 is gone. Failed experiment.

    Thank goodness. Adios.

    Spending will not be for just this year only IMO.

    It will continue next year and beyond.

  46. Blojaldo January 13th, 2014 at 9:44 am

    I don’t believe A-Rod will ever play Major League Baseball again. The Yankees will release him this winter and no other team will sign him.

  47. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:44 am

    Mac-

    One thing at a time is why.

    Right now the focus is on pitching.

    Starting Pitching 1st. RP next.

  48. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 9:45 am

    No way. Arod has circus value and celebrity appeal. He’d be a draw for a small market team like the Marlins.

  49. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:45 am

    Blo-

    One way or another I think you are right.

    Certainly never again w the Yankees.

  50. Howe Farr January 13th, 2014 at 9:46 am

    John Smoltz’s career was slightly better after his tommy john from age 34 on…yeah, no PED theres….

  51. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:47 am

    Mac-

    If I am wrong about the spending I will gladly apologize to you.

    :)

  52. austinmac January 13th, 2014 at 9:48 am

    MTU,

    I hope your faith is correct. I think you are FAR too optimistic. They wouldn’t sign the scrap heap is they planned to go elsewhere.

    It is looking like last year without the foolish Youkilis money. Instead, we go DeAna(AAA player) and Sizemore.

  53. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:48 am

    mac-

    Having seen a very accurate spreadsheet.

    ;)

  54. Blojaldo January 13th, 2014 at 9:49 am

    I’m on the record – no team is going to choose to be a part of that circus. He is a disgraced cheat and liar who will be forty with two years out of baseball. He’s done.

  55. blake January 13th, 2014 at 9:49 am

    Howe Farr says:
    January 13, 2014 at 9:46 am
    John Smoltz’s career was slightly better after his tommy john from age 34 on…yeah, no PED theres….

    The success rate for TJS is very good …..no basis for that accusation

  56. blake January 13th, 2014 at 9:50 am

    I think they would have to trade nova to get Headley…..the padres have made it clear they aren’t selling low

  57. Yankee Trader January 13th, 2014 at 9:52 am

    I went back to an old article from Its About The Money. “state of the Budget;12/6/13″

    If the Yankees do not make another addition and go with in house options, adding Thornton, Roberts, ARod’s 3,868,852, 12m of player benefits, and the rest of the arb cases and minor leaguers pay that would fill out the 40 man roster, I come up with a payroll of $188,622,000.

    Close, very close, but no cigar! :)

  58. AAA January 13th, 2014 at 9:52 am

    No way. Arod has circus value and celebrity appeal. He’d be a draw for a small market team like the Marlins

    =========================

    This I can buy to a degree. They won’t pay for it though. If the Yankees release Arod, someone like the Marlins may take a shot. Nobody is assuming salary or trading anything of use.

  59. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:52 am

    Mac-

    Those people are only filler at this point.

    They demonstrate nothing more than that the Yankees are loading up on possibilities.

    Better ones can be added at any time.

    Personally the Pitching concerns me, and also the Yankees, a lot more at the present moment.

    I think that represents the correct priority.

    3b is last in the chain of events because it is contingent on other things happening first.

    That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

    Yours truly,

    The c*ckeyed optimist

    :)

  60. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:55 am

    YT-

    Much closer.

    :)

  61. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 9:55 am

    Headley is not worth Nova as a 1/2 year rental. No bidder would pay even close to that.

    That’s why you keep Nova and you wait until it’s clear Headley is a half-season rental. The Padres are acting like they can extend him. It will be more clear they can’t at the trade deadline.

    He’s your guy, imo.

  62. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:56 am

    Blake-

    Perhaps. But if they do move Nova they might be able to do even better.

    :)

  63. Ys Guy January 13th, 2014 at 9:56 am

    Ha!

    winning the WS twice didnt help the marlins draw, neither did there new stadium.

    but a broken down steroid cheat will pack em in?

    …sure

  64. Howe Farr January 13th, 2014 at 9:56 am

    The success rate for TJS is very good …..no basis for that accusation
    ________________________________________

    Agreed, but a man’s career doesnt decline from age 34 to age 41.

  65. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 9:57 am

    Arod is very popular nationwide. Negative press is still good press – it would keep the Marlins in the news.

  66. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 9:57 am

    Bret-

    I am fine w Headley if that’s the way it goes.

    Just keeping an open mind.

    ;)

  67. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 9:59 am

    They won’t release him. He won’t retire. They won’t play him – they will cover 3B and assume he’s cooked. Jeter has first dibs on DH.

    The only ending that makes sense is he goes somewhere at a sizable discount as a ticket draw. Arod will do everything in his power to sell himself as a baseball player with something left in the tank.

  68. Yankee Trader January 13th, 2014 at 10:02 am

    Reasons Not to release ARod and pay him the 61M owed.

    Stints in the DL are likely and the chance of career ending surgery like a hip resurfacing/replacement. If the Yankees still have an insurance policy paying 80%, they at least save some money.

    The 61 M, still counts as AAV 27.5M over the last three years. Someone yesterday had a good idea to go to the commissioner and ask for relief of the luxury tax burden, while still giving him his 61M to go away.

    If he gets caught using PED’s in the last three years of the contract, it’s further relief of monies owed.

  69. DONNYBROOK January 13th, 2014 at 10:02 am

    - MONDAY MORINING MUSINGS -

    (1) Had A-Rod getting 150 games months ago, while this Blog was full of posters claiming roughly 50 due to 1st offense, BLAH\BLAH\BLAH. What new?

    (2) Yankees Bust on Tanaka, and they’ll Double Down on Drew. Boras having Hal on speed dial, means Drew remains in play. My guess is Drew does Not sign until after Tanaka does.

    (3) Sizemore’s a step down from Nunez. The Yanks continue to destroy Any trade value Nunez has, by continually signing ham-n-egger utility IF’ers. DUMB Especially if they lose out on Tanaka, and need to assemble a Gardner package for a SP.

    (4) Bud Selig NOW has something to hang his Legacy on. He took down the modern day Babe Ruth.

  70. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 10:02 am

    I agree with the person who said that AR will follow the Bonds model.

    He’s burned more bridges than a serial arsonist.

  71. RayVT January 13th, 2014 at 10:03 am

    LMAO at Myself! (Quoting a close friend!)

    Whenever someone states a position in favor of someone basically known to have done something wrong most folks tend to pile on the “victim” or one being judged.

    ARod has used drugs of some kind & is now being suspended because of it. But for someone to say the playing field is level or fair for everyone there is some blind allegiances that are not being disputed.

    MLB Ownership has been corrupt from its very foundation & start. The league has made tons of money for its exclusive club & has trashed and burned a lot of good folks over the years. You can read about this in the history of baseball & if you don’t think that MLB doesn’t use its influence & power to get what it wants then ask why Marvin Miller is not in the HOF. Miller is the renegade that cost the “MLB Ownership Club” Billions of dollars. (See Curt Flood!)

    I don’t care if a person having success on the diamond had a lucky dirty sock or not but once the success is witnessed the other players will emulate it and ask about it & do it. What was not said on 60 Mins was the history of how PEDs got started. It was in jars on the counter in each & every locker room all supplied by ownership to help their “stallions” to outperform the other teams. The players were berated & even benched or cut if they didn’t participate especially after an injury.

    The MLB Press has always been somewhat owned by the owners as well, since most leaks, leads & perks come from the teams and the players as a whole are temporary while the team is not. What I think I know is ARod is guilty. MLB is guilty. Bosch is guilty. All three benefited from this in some way. Also, the press is guilty.

    Tidbits that don’t add up:
    ==================
    (1.) MLB buying illegal evidence & using it against one of its own in a manner of vengeance.
    (2.) No player on the RSox team ever gets prosecuted until after they leave the RSox.
    (3.) ARod was going to break the beloved Hank Aaron all-time HR record & Bud was going to allow it.
    (4.) How scum like Manfred & Selig & Henry & Loria are allowed by the other owners to run roughshod over the MLB brand. (Ask Mark Cuban about these folks.)
    (5.) How can MLB protect Bosch from being prosecuted for selling to minors? How can MLB actually extort & pay for testimony from Bosch? Is there a commissioner (bud-lite) slush fund?
    (6.) Who is the Villain & who is the Victim? Are they interchangeable?
    (7.) Why is the MLBPA so quiet? Are the rank & file getting the memo that as Bosch said almost everyone is using & we will come after you if you don’t keep quiet.
    (8.) Why is MLB so different on PEDs than NFL & NBA? Is it the voidable contract position? Is it the MLB & Congress Anti-Trust Monopoly agreement?
    As in so many things that are not black & white, what is really at stake here and who is the guilty party? All are guilty perhaps!

  72. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 10:05 am

    Prediction

    Headley = NYY 3B 2015 opening day

    Hanley Ramirez = NYY SS 2015 opening day

  73. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 10:05 am

    Hopefully the Tanaka saga will be over by Friday.

    :)

  74. austinmac January 13th, 2014 at 10:05 am

    MTU,

    Will you share your spreadsheet with us? My numbers don’t come out higher. I agree my number is for only 19 players. So the total would be higher, leaving only $8M for six more guys on the 25 and 15 ultra cheap ones on the 40 man. I am not sure what the non-25 man roster guys get.

    I don’t know why we are talking Headley again. The word is we are not interested.

  75. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 10:06 am

    Balfour is still out there.

    Rodney is till out there.

    O’Flaherty is still out there.

    Putz is still out there.

    Etc.

    :)

  76. Tackelberry January 13th, 2014 at 10:06 am

    Prediction

    Headley = NYY 3B 2015 opening day

    Hanley Ramirez = NYY SS 2015 opening day

    _____________________________

    Prediction

    Neither one will be a Yankee 2015 Opening Day

  77. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 10:08 am

    Prediction

    Alex Rodriguez = Miami Marlins 3B 2015 opening day

    Derek Jeter = NYY DH 2015 opening day

  78. DONNYBROOK January 13th, 2014 at 10:08 am

    The Most telling part of that 60 Minutes piece was that A-Rod sought out Bosch and told him, “I want what you are giving Manny”. The Players KNOW who is on the juice.

  79. blake January 13th, 2014 at 10:10 am

    “Agreed, but a man’s career doesnt decline from age 34 to age 41.”

    He fell off sharply following his age 40 season and his velocity fell 4 mph slowly over his last few seasons. We can speculate about all players…..Hank Aaron had me of his best seasons at age 40…..but there is no proof or even suspicion surrounding Smoltz

  80. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 10:10 am

    Mac-

    I am not at liberty to do so. Sorry.

    Trust me when I tell you I have the highest confidence in it.

    There is no way the Yankees can fill their remaining needs in a credible fashion w/o going over.

    The only way one could believe they won’t is if you believe they will leave themselves full of holes.

    I don’t believe that’s a serious possibility.

    ;)

  81. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 10:10 am

    Arod said I want what you are giving Manny? When he comes back at age 40 he should file a request for the Ortiz c0cktail.

  82. blake January 13th, 2014 at 10:11 am

    That’s why you keep Nova and you wait until it’s clear Headley is a half-season rental. The Padres are acting like they can extend him. It will be more clear they can’t at the trade deadline.”

    Agreed….the padres have no reason to move Headley now. They will hold him and hope he has a big first half then try to move him in July most likely……the problem is that he’s not going to be any cheaper then than he is now…..

  83. Yankee Dog January 13th, 2014 at 10:11 am

    Odds of ‘ARod’ making another appearance on ‘Fatscesa’ today in another attempt to defend himself again with his greatest ally ?

  84. austinmac January 13th, 2014 at 10:11 am

    As a nearly last note on AROD, I do wonder at what age he began to use. Was he using at 19? Nothing at this point would surprise me.

  85. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 10:12 am

    About 1 month till Pitchers and Catchers report.

    :)

  86. DONNYBROOK January 13th, 2014 at 10:13 am

    My guess is if A-Rod was paying Bosch all that $$$, he Also is paying someone on the inside to give him a “heads up” as to when to prepare for the P-Cup. Crooks make sure to cover Every angle there is.

  87. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 10:14 am

    Blake-

    And what if he doesn’t ? Or gets injured ?

    Usually 2 sides to a coin.

    ;)

  88. blake January 13th, 2014 at 10:14 am

    As I’ve been saying for weeks…..if the Yankees release Arod then his career is over…..if nobody would sign a .480 OBP Bonds then they aren’t signing a washing up Arod.

    By doing this the Yankees can finally move on and and least they would guarantee not having to pay him any of the performance bonuses he could achieve if he’s allowed to keep playing.

    It’s dead money anyway…..pay the 61 million and move on. To me even if Arod could contribute something going forward it’s not going to outweigh the bonus money he has coming…..yanks might get off cheaper by just forcing him into retirement t

  89. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 10:15 am

    the problem is that he’s not going to be any cheaper then than he is now…..

    ________

    I’ll accept even a slight increase in the possibility of keeping a cost-controlled pitcher like Nova out of a deal for a half year of Headley.

    Beltran as a half-season rental is the price I’m looking at and he didn’t go to the Giants for an established ML starter. He went for a prospect. The Yankees need their prospects to build value until the trade deadline.

  90. Yankee Trader January 13th, 2014 at 10:15 am

    Here’s the 12/6/13 article with payroll projection from Its About The Money.

    Need to add Roberts,Thornton, and ARod, subtract the 7M Jeter bonus, and assume the rest of the roster will be minor leaguers, of which I failed to subtract two more minor leaguers when Roberts and Thornton were added.

    Maybe now $187.6M and change.

    http://itsaboutthemoney.net/ar.....get-12613/

  91. blake January 13th, 2014 at 10:15 am

    MTU says:
    January 13, 2014 at 10:14 am
    Blake-

    And what if he doesn’t ? Or gets injured ?

    Usually 2 sides to a coin.”

    Obviously teams aren’t offering a ton for him now though so if you’re the padres it’s worthwhile to see if he can re-establish some value

  92. austinmac January 13th, 2014 at 10:16 am

    MTU,

    I most certainly do trust you. Credible without a doubt.

    No one will be happier than me if the team does finish the job. The economic result for not doing so is my one reason for any hope.

    Can you imagine the fan rage if Hal pockets the AROD money?

  93. blake January 13th, 2014 at 10:17 am

    “Beltran as a half-season rental is the price I’m looking at and he didn’t go to the Giants for an established ML starter. He went for a prospect. The Yankees need their prospects to build value until the trade deadline.”

    He went for their top prospect though…..would you trade Sanchez for half a season of Headley in July?

  94. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 10:17 am

    Blake-

    Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

    Meaning they are taking their chances either way.

    ;)

  95. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 10:18 am

    blake January 13th, 2014 at 10:17 am

    “Beltran as a half-season rental is the price I’m looking at and he didn’t go to the Giants for an established ML starter. He went for a prospect. The Yankees need their prospects to build value until the trade deadline.”

    He went for their top prospect though…..would you trade Sanchez for half a season of Headley in July?

    ___________

    Gary Sanchez is a better prospect than Zack Wheeler

  96. DONNYBROOK January 13th, 2014 at 10:19 am

    Watched Sherman the last couple days on MLB Network. Basically comes off as a good natured, enthusiastic, buffoon. A young Peter Gammons.

  97. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 10:19 am

    Mac-

    It will not happen.

    The job is going to be completed.

    Mostly because it has to be.

    I don’t care about the motivation. Only the result.

    :)

  98. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 10:19 am

    And Nova is worth more than Gary Sanchez, Blake.

  99. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 10:20 am

    Most talking heads resemble balloons at a county fair.

    :)

  100. Ys Guy January 13th, 2014 at 10:20 am

    donnybrook, the most common pic of the 39 participant in the arod poll was 162.

    so while many made noise about ‘cant get more than 50′ in fact alot of people were spot-on.

    its just that the arod defenders have always been noisier than the majority.

  101. Yankee Trader January 13th, 2014 at 10:21 am

    If this did reach Federal Court, that one in a million chance, won’t teammates like Cervelli , Montero, and Melky be served subpoenas? I can only imagine what they would say under oath as to their connection to Biogenesis thru Rodriguez.

  102. blake January 13th, 2014 at 10:22 am

    “Gary Sanchez is a better prospect than Zack Wheeler”

    Uhm not really

  103. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 10:22 am

    My advice, humbly offered, is to forget AR.

    He is the past.

    Concentrate on the future and building your Team.

    :)

  104. blake January 13th, 2014 at 10:23 am

    Bret The Hitman says:
    January 13, 2014 at 10:19 am
    And Nova is worth more than Gary Sanchez, Blake.

    Yea….what I’m saying is that Headley won’t be cheap in July most likely….they’ll keep him and take the draft pick before selling him cheap

  105. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 10:23 am

    YT-

    The odds of AR being successful are extremely low.

    So why bother thinking about it ?

    ;)

  106. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 10:23 am

    I predict LOHUD = 1000x more readable without the constant pom-pom waving of Arod’s cheerleaders. So many of them always put him ahead of the team and he’s the guy they get most excited for when rooting for the Yankees. Without him, it’s almost as if they like the Yankees less. Before he opted out, some of them even threatened to swear off the Yankees if the Yankees didn’t sign him back.

    It’s the strangest crowd in baseball.

  107. blake January 13th, 2014 at 10:24 am

    Unless of course Headley doesn’t hit in the first half…..if he doesn’t then maybe they sell him cheap….but then if he’s not hitting getting him isn’t all that great anyway

  108. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 10:24 am

    You guys act if Headley is the only fish in the Sea.

    He’s not.

    ;)

  109. Ys Guy January 13th, 2014 at 10:24 am

    i agree, arod has played his last game as a yankee but the yankees are going to hold out on the hope that he retires, retires due to injury or is suspended for life, which would save the $61M.

  110. blake January 13th, 2014 at 10:25 am

    Sign Drew and you don’t have to trade for Headley…..you can sign him next winter and you have SS and 3B covered for a few years

  111. DONNYBROOK January 13th, 2014 at 10:26 am

    It seems like every 3rd Thread that Chad starts, has A-Rod’s Kisser on it. Been like that most of the Offseason.

  112. blake January 13th, 2014 at 10:27 am

    The yanks don’t have to be in a rush anymore with Alex…..he’s out for a year and they don’t have to pay him so basically they can wait for now and see what else comes out…..perhaps enough comes out where they can move to have his remaining money reduced? I doubt it but IMO they will hold for now and then try to trade him before releasing him next winter if they can’t……..

  113. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 10:27 am

    Arod has always wanted to be bigger than the Yankees and his fans feed right into it, like he is some superhero or something. Totally weird. He’s a broken down roider who will be 40. We an all move on now.

  114. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 10:28 am

    Once both sides in this situation went nuclear you could tell right away that there would be plenty of
    collateral damage.

    That is why I did not want to see it and hoped for a settlement between mature people acting in their own best interests.

    But of course that would be too rational so it didn’t happen.

    And now all of us will be left with the mess.

    Baseball, the players, and the fans.

    So stupid. Nobody won.

    Just wait till AR publishes his tell all.

    :(

  115. DONNYBROOK January 13th, 2014 at 10:28 am

    A-Rod STILL has to Drug Test while on Suspension. That should factor into his wanting to retire.

  116. Yankee Dog January 13th, 2014 at 10:29 am

    blake January 13th, 2014 at 10:14 am

    Or if the Yankees are pissed off enough from all of the shenanigans he has and continues to pull they string him along though next ST and then release him diminishing his chances of catching on with another club

  117. blake January 13th, 2014 at 10:30 am

    Yea I mean they could decide to release him now just to avoid the circus in ST…..and then fight to recoup his money behind the scenes in court

  118. blake January 13th, 2014 at 10:31 am

    At least Bonds got the good stuff when he used and was awesome on the field…..Arod probably got busted for taking sugar troches that Boesch was sellin him and telling him it was testosterone

  119. DONNYBROOK January 13th, 2014 at 10:31 am

    Personally, I believe Bud would have negotiated a full-season suspension and saved A-Rod the egg pack and the $$$. But of course, A-Rod had to have it His way.

  120. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 10:32 am

    Blake-

    Whatever the Yankees ultimately decide to do one thing I don’t think they will do is ever allow AR to ever wear a uniform at NYS again.

  121. Yankee Trader January 13th, 2014 at 10:33 am

    MTU

    If Tanaka goes to one of the LA teams then what is your plan?

    1. Nuno, Phelps, Pineda, Warren compete for two jobs- none can give 200 innings.
    2. Johann Santana fills one spot, competes with Sweaty Freddy.
    3. Yankees overpay for one of Jimenez, Santana , Garza, Arroyo.
    4. Overpay for Maholm, Lannon, Saunders,,etc.
    5. Trade for an established starter

  122. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 10:33 am

    So who gets Tanaka and for how much ?

  123. wanzies222 January 13th, 2014 at 10:33 am

    MTU -

    You can go ahead and post the salaries that I sent you. No big secret; the data should be useful to folks here, I would hope.

  124. blake January 13th, 2014 at 10:34 am

    MTU says:
    January 13, 2014 at 10:32 am
    Blake-

    Whatever the Yankees ultimately decide to do one thing I don’t think they will do is ever allow AR to ever wear a uniform at NYS again.

    Yes it’s really hard to see how he ever wears pinstripes again

  125. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 10:34 am

    Guestimates on Arod’s attourney expenditures?

  126. DONNYBROOK January 13th, 2014 at 10:34 am

    As I said back in Sept, they should have activated him, and allowed him to ROT on-the-pine.

  127. blake January 13th, 2014 at 10:34 am

    MTU says:
    January 13, 2014 at 10:33 am
    So who gets Tanaka and for how much ?

    Yankees: 6/120 with an opt out after year 3.

  128. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 10:35 am

    YT-

    Ubaldo, Bailey, or Garza +.

    Might be the Yankees plan B too.

  129. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 10:36 am

    Blake-

    Same. Except I’m going w. opt out after 4.

  130. pat January 13th, 2014 at 10:36 am

    “A-Rod STILL has to Drug Test while on Suspension. That should factor into his wanting to retire.”

    What would be the benefit of using PED while not playing?

  131. blake January 13th, 2014 at 10:38 am

    If the Yanks sign Tanaka I’m calling that they jump back in on Drew and also Balfour…..Drew is waiting for a reason….he clearly does like the offers he has on the table now and is waiting to see if the yanks will jump back in once tanaka is resolved

  132. DONNYBROOK January 13th, 2014 at 10:38 am

    There’s No Way I would shell out $20 Mill per for a guy that has Not thrown a single pitch at the MLB Level. You do that and Kershaw etc, goes for how much ???

  133. blake January 13th, 2014 at 10:38 am

    What would be the benefit of using PED while not playing?”

    To be ready for Dancing with the Stars…..duh

  134. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 10:38 am

    If the Yankees land MT they are going to have an extra source of revenue.

    Him and Kuroda are going to teach the rest of baseball the splitter thru side clinics.

    And they are going to show LR that the Circle Change is inferior causing him to wake up and smell the coffee.

    :)

  135. Yankee Trader January 13th, 2014 at 10:39 am

    Blake

    I brought that up last night. These little testosterone gummies that he would take just before game time could have been nothing more than a placebo, jujubes, like we used to get at the movies!

    Testosterone is easily masked, metabolized quickly, and if one already has low testosterone, taking a small dose might only raise it within normal limits.

    I’m not doubting the fact that ARod is a cheater, but just maybe, Bosch was giving him some placebos, knowing if he was tested right after a game, after taking these gummies, he would test negative.

    Bret-Your thoughts?

  136. DONNYBROOK January 13th, 2014 at 10:39 am

    Point is, A-Rod is psychologically Dependent on The Juice. No Juice = No career in his eyes.

  137. Ys Guy January 13th, 2014 at 10:40 am

    the bonds thing is interesting.

    my guess is that it’s true that bonds didnt start using ped’s until late in his career so when he was in his late 30s and into his 40′s his body wasnt breaking down from decades of ped using.

    arod started breaking down at about 35 because like selena roberts said, he started using in high school and the damage is extensive by now.

  138. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 10:40 am

    Blake-

    Baker instead. And later on maybe Nova for a good young IF.

  139. blake January 13th, 2014 at 10:41 am

    I brought that up last night. These little testosterone gummies that he would take just before game time could have been nothing more than a placebo, jujubes, like we used to get at the movies!”

    They didn’t work very well

  140. Blojaldo January 13th, 2014 at 10:41 am

    Look at Bonds photos in Pirates uniform. Skinny rookie. He was juicing a long time.

  141. DONNYBROOK January 13th, 2014 at 10:42 am

    They posted the stats for Gummie Night, and it’s obvious why A-Rod was Hooked.

  142. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 10:42 am

    DB-

    You wouldn’t but the Yankees would. And probably will.

    Kershaw is going to stay w the Dodgers or wind up back in Texas.

    We will have the “Typhoon twins”.

    And next year Bailey.

  143. DONNYBROOK January 13th, 2014 at 10:44 am

    I agree on Bonds using for and extended period based on size. Same goes for McGwire.

  144. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 10:44 am

    Year after we get Harper.

    :shock:

  145. Yankee Trader January 13th, 2014 at 10:44 am

    Bret-

    Conservatively, spending one million per month. From CBSsports.

  146. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 10:45 am

    Trouble w big egos is that they sometimes explode from over inflation killing the participant.

    :(

  147. Blojaldo January 13th, 2014 at 10:45 am

    I found Bosch very credible based on the following primarily. The other twelve players involved who were mentioned in the Biogenesis documents ALL admitted their guilt and took their punishment. ALL of them. Except A-Rod.

  148. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 10:46 am

    Trader,

    Testesterone levels have narrow normal limits. When these guys use testosterone their balls disappear – I’ve seen it from someone in the gym who offered test. I took one look at his nonexistent balls, the flat patch there and I was like, no thanks. Why do the testicles disappear? Because testosterone levels are so far out of normal range in the blood that testosterone production shuts down, rendering the testes useless, thus they shrink.

    And Manny took the estrogen blocker because abnormally high testosterone spikes estrogen as the body attempts to maintain homeostasis and hormone balance.

    So yeah, I think high testosterone is measurable and quantifiable considering the physical impact (no balls) and the rise in estrogen requiring a blocker like in the case of Manny.

  149. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 10:47 am

    I have always suspected Bautista.

    And nowadays Chris Davis.

    It goes w/o saying that big Sloppy is as guilty as sin.

    ;)

  150. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 10:47 am

    Yankee Trader January 13th, 2014 at 10:44 am

    Bret-

    Conservatively, spending one million per month. From CBSsports.

    ___________

    Wow, that’s a bill and it’s not over yet because Arod is paranoid the Yankees will try to void his contract. You know tapioca is stoking that fire.

  151. Yankee Trader January 13th, 2014 at 10:53 am

    MTU

    Isn’t Bailey from Texas?

    Michelle, who is friends with Jeff Baker feels he might be leaning to returning to the Rangers, although he is “intrigued” about playing for the Yankees.

    This is all I could find on Tanaka

    Masahiro Tanaka resumed his workouts in the Kanto region on Sunday. He training will continue through to the 17th. He could return to the United States once he decides which MLB team he wants to sign with.

    Source: Sponichi 1/13/2014

    Maybe, by later this week, he’ll be flying to New York, to personally sign his contract! :)

  152. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 10:54 am

    Surely you folks have something better to talk about than AR.

    He’s is becoming like a black hole sucking up any an all decent conversation and destroying it
    in the process.

    Why feed it ? He’s the past. Not the future.

    ;)

  153. pat January 13th, 2014 at 10:55 am

    Psychologically dependant to play. Maybe
    Psychologically dependent to drive his duaghters to school? Not buying that.

  154. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 10:55 am

    YT-

    Thanks. I hope so.

    He’s my current obsession.

    I think Baker is in a holding pattern over Yankees stadium.

    As are others.

  155. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 10:57 am

    YT-

    Yes. Bailey is a Texan.

    I think Mac knows a lot about his early years.

  156. Kelvin January 13th, 2014 at 11:00 am

    I want a Tanaka resolution soon. I’ve been waiting anxiously for an announcement , lol can’t take much longer.

  157. pat January 13th, 2014 at 11:01 am

    Swapping the spot for another PED user is a nice touch…..

    Joelsherman1
    #Yankees deal with Roberts for $2M is official. He gets A-Rod’s 40-man roster spot

    Joelsherman1
    Roberts bonuses: $175G for 250pa, 300pa; $250G for 350pa, 400 pa. $300G for 450pa, 500pa; $350G for 550pa $400G for 600pa, 650 pa #Yankees

  158. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 11:02 am

    Kelvin-

    You won’t have too much longer to wait.

  159. Kelvin January 13th, 2014 at 11:02 am

    Roberts was a PED user? I’ve never even heard a whisper of a rumor about that…

  160. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 11:02 am

    The end of the OS could finish w a bang.

    Kind of like the way it started.

    :)

  161. pkyankfan69 January 13th, 2014 at 11:03 am

    500pa; $350G for 550pa $400G for 600pa, 650 pa #Yankees
    ———–
    I’m going to go out on a limb and say Roberts won’t get these bonuses

  162. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 11:04 am

    One thing is clear. The Yankees don’t want Brandon Phillips’ contract.

  163. pat January 13th, 2014 at 11:05 am

    Roberts was in the Mitchell Report.

  164. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 11:05 am

    69-

    Stay focused. You have been doing well.

    I think you have been on the right track.

    ;)

  165. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 11:06 am

    True Bret.

    Or the one he wanted to re-negotiate.

  166. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 11:07 am

    MTU,

    It’s unfortunate Phillips wants even more money on top of a bad contract. It’s just a sensitive area with the Yankees. I believe Phillips was BPA (best player available) for Gardner. It sucks.

  167. BoJo January 13th, 2014 at 11:08 am

    DONNYBROOK January 13th, 2014 at 10:28 am
    A-Rod STILL has to Drug Test while on Suspension. That should factor into his wanting to retire.
    ===
    Why? If true, the 60 minutes report shows that players have figured out how to time their usage so as to avoid detection. As I predicted a few days ago, I expect ARod to fully use PEDs to get back into great shape while on suspension so he can come back with big numbers in 2015. His drive to pass Bonds will motivate him.

    BTW–I have long suspected Cano of juicing as well…based on his affiliation with ARod, the way his power shot up from young years, and a suspicion that testing couldn’t detect usage. I now think that he will eventually be found out and disgraced. Perhaps the Yankees didn’t want to go longer term with him because they too suspected his usage of PEDs….

  168. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 11:08 am

    Bret-

    Greedy. Tough luck on him.

  169. pat January 13th, 2014 at 11:09 am

    DavidWaldstein
    Consensus in Japan right now is that Yankees and Dodgers are favorites on Tanaka and word is his wife prefers to be on West Coast.

    DavidWaldstein
    But supposedly his wife has said “it’s a goal, not a mandate.”

  170. pkyankfan69 January 13th, 2014 at 11:10 am

    MTU,

    Just a bit thrown off by the whole “Yanks won’t add another ML INF” thing.

    Hopefully not true but we won’t find out until we make it official with Mashiro!

  171. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 11:10 am

    Pat-

    And I just saw a Bigfoot yesterday.

    ;)

  172. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 11:10 am

    The West Coast has radiation from Fukushima, run away run away!!!

  173. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 11:11 am

    Correctamundo 69.

    No wine before it’s time.

    ;)

  174. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 11:11 am

    I believe the Yankees. They won’t add another ML INF right now…but at the deadline? 100% guarantee.

  175. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 11:12 am

    Just a hope on my part but it is that the Dodgers are not as motivated as we are.

    ;)

  176. BoJo January 13th, 2014 at 11:13 am

    Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 10:46 am
    Trader,

    Testesterone levels have narrow normal limits. When these guys use testosterone their balls disappear – I’ve seen it from someone in the gym who offered test. I took one look at his nonexistent balls, the flat patch there and I was like, no thanks. Why do the testicles disappear? Because testosterone levels are so far out of normal range in the blood that testosterone production shuts down, rendering the testes useless, thus they shrink.
    ———-
    Further evidence that Cano probably took PEDs. I always thought that he had no balls in the play-offs.

  177. RadioKev January 13th, 2014 at 11:16 am

    Not sure if this has been talked about in some time, but arbitrators who go against the MLB front office/owners get fired.

    From 2012:

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_.....braun-case

    “Major League Baseball management has fired Shyam Das, the arbitrator who overturned Ryan Braun’s drug suspension in February.”

    “Seitz was fired after he ruled against owners in the Andy Messersmith-Dave McNally reserve clause case that led to free agency. Roberts was fired after deciding management colluded against free agents between the 1985 and 1986 seasons.”

  178. RadioKev January 13th, 2014 at 11:16 am

    DavidWaldstein
    But supposedly his wife has said “it’s a goal, not a mandate.”
    ——-

    Boom goes the dynamite

  179. Blojaldo January 13th, 2014 at 11:17 am

    DONNYBROOK January 13th, 2014 at 10:28 am
    A-Rod STILL has to Drug Test while on Suspension. That should factor into his wanting to retire.

    He doesn’t want to retire, you underestimate the drive and obsession of a narcissist. Baseball is his heroin, it’s his life. But he will certainly never play for the Yankees again and I don’t think he will play for anyone else either. Charlie Finley is gone.

  180. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 11:17 am

    Kuroda + Ichiro = advantage YANKEES

  181. mick January 13th, 2014 at 11:20 am

    The crux of Bosch’s testimony was in defending Arod by saying they all do it.
    So why shouldn’t he?
    And why not get advice from the best, meaning Bosch…
    This is what ruins it for the average ballplayer who chooses not to juice.
    He basically has to, in fear of his job.
    Of course, the above average player gets most of the benefits, meaning HR’s, which drew attention to all of this in the 1st place.
    If McGwire and Sosa, then Bonds, don’t shatter the Babe’s and Roger’s records then this never happens.

  182. exiledintampa January 13th, 2014 at 11:21 am

    Bosch, Manfred and Selig make Victor Conti look like an honorable man.

    Since when is the drug dealer more believable than the drug user?
    I’ve never seen that before. The bigger fish getting paid big money to take down the smaller fish.

    Why isn’t the DEA going after Bosch’es suppliers. How did he obtain these drugs without a licence?

    This is so upside down wrong.

  183. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 11:21 am

    Bret-

    Most money and greatest motivation = Yankees

    ;)

  184. pat January 13th, 2014 at 11:21 am

    Kuroda + Ichiro = advantage YANKEES

    $$$$$$ will be the advantage Yankees. They need to change the narrative from the past month (and season) and should be waving their checkbooks around starting today.

  185. mick January 13th, 2014 at 11:21 am

    It’s all about the sacred HR.

  186. austinmac January 13th, 2014 at 11:22 am

    YT,

    Yes, Bailey is from a small town, LaGrange, Texas. He was a high school phenom that Texas seems to produce every few years.

  187. JobaTipsHisCap January 13th, 2014 at 11:22 am

    “Not sure if this has been talked about in some time, but arbitrators who go against the MLB front office/owners get fired.”

    LOL. This is what I posted for joke last night. Arbitrator is paid by MLB, how could people expect the process is fair?

    LOL

  188. Blojaldo January 13th, 2014 at 11:23 am

    I think Tanaka could choose the Yankees, I won’t be surprised if he does. But, I have always said and still feel that the Dodgers are the front runners. What I call the Mrs. Lee factor matters a lot, as it should. Why wouldn’t a good guy care about what his wife wants? The show business environment on the West Coast, the very large Japanese community, shorter air travel for friends and family all are significent factors.

    I also think while the Dodgers were meeting with Tanaka and it was 72 degrees and sunny, they most likely uttered the words, “polar vortex.” And if they were smart, and they are, they probably showed him and his wife some large photos of oceanfront mansions in Manhattan Beach.

  189. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 11:25 am

    Prestige matters too. Sucks the Dodgers have a sacred name in Japan along with the Yankees.

  190. Blojaldo January 13th, 2014 at 11:25 am

    Kuroda + Ichiro = advantage YANKEES

    Just curious. Why do you think those two are expending any effort to pitch Tanaka on New York?

  191. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 11:26 am

    Because they want to win? And if they’re asked they respect their team’s desires?

  192. coney1 January 13th, 2014 at 11:26 am

    DavidWaldstein
    Consensus in Japan right now is that Yankees and Dodgers are favorites on Tanaka and word is his wife prefers to be on West Coast.
    ———————
    Sounds like media leaking to get the most money out of the Yankees

  193. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 11:28 am

    These Tweets are meaningless.

    The silence is more important.

    ;)

  194. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 11:28 am

    This is win-win. If the Dodgers pay Tanaka, we have a much better shot at either Kershaw or Hanley Ramirez.

    I’m not worried.

  195. JobaTipsHisCap January 13th, 2014 at 11:28 am

    “I found Bosch very credible based on the following primarily. The other twelve players involved who were mentioned in the Biogenesis documents ALL admitted their guilt and took their punishment. ALL of them. Except A-Rod.”

    I think this is just another example of double standard created by our wonderful medias.
    They only mention that all players but arod accepted the penalty. But they failed to mention that only arod got 211 games. I think we all agree that arod would acceept 50-70 games suspension.

  196. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 11:30 am

    Dodgers invested to the tune of nearly 500 mil in just 3 players by next season ?

    I don’t think so.

    ;)

  197. Blojaldo January 13th, 2014 at 11:30 am

    This press release is a good read and has some interesting facts. It details the Dodgers relationship with Japan. The Dodgers and the Japan Tourism Agency which is a branch of the Japanese government are sports partners in the United States.

    http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb......38;c_id=la

  198. Yankee Dog January 13th, 2014 at 11:30 am

    Levine injured after a fall ………

    http://pagesix.com/2014/01/13/.....1386445006

    He probably was ‘hammered’

    Maybe he needs a couple of ‘gummis’ to heal up ?

  199. chicken little January 13th, 2014 at 11:30 am

    Why would Ichiro lobbying Tanaka be beneficial to the Yankees? If Ichiro speaks to Tanaka don’t you think he will tell Tanaka that the Yankees signed him to a 2 year deal and then went out and acquired so many outfielders, ichiro is now the 5th outfielder. I bet Ichiro is pissed at the Yankees.

  200. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 11:31 am

    Bret-

    I think you are right and also why we can outbid them on Tanaka.

    But either way.

    ;)

  201. austinmac January 13th, 2014 at 11:31 am

    I am more than ready to move on from the AROD issue. He is a liar and a cheat. So is Bosch. I feel no sympathy for AROD. He did it to himself.

    On the Tanaka front, I have expressed concern before about his celebrity wife and the allure of Hollywood. If the Dodgers are in it with the money, I do think he will go there. The question is if they will go big with Hanley and Kershaw coming up.

  202. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 11:31 am

    Ichiro is a bigger person than that. If asked, he will talk about his friends on the team, the atmosphere, the city.

  203. Blojaldo January 13th, 2014 at 11:32 am

    JobaTipsHisCap January 13th, 2014 at 11:28 am
    I think this is just another example of double standard created by our wonderful medias.
    They only mention that all players but arod accepted the penalty. But they failed to mention that only arod got 211 games. I think we all agree that arod would acceept 50-70 games suspension.

    What you are missing is that the additional suspension A-Rod received was because of his actions that no other players took. Impeding the investigation, possible threats, destroying evidence, etc.

  204. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 11:32 am

    Recruiting cervelli and montero

  205. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 11:33 am

    Look I don’t care how you want to itemize Arod’s suspension. He got 162 games. As far as I’m concerned there’s a crime befitting every block of suspension time.

  206. Ys Guy January 13th, 2014 at 11:35 am

    yeah its the media’s fault….

    …nothing lamer than blaming the media for people’s actions.

  207. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 11:37 am

    If the Yankees matched the Mariners for Cano, that probably would have put Tanaka in play for Seattle.

  208. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 11:38 am

    I believe the Yankees really want this guy and have wanted him for years. Bringing in Ichiro was part of the plan imo. Ichiro is a legend over there, a freaking rockstar.

  209. blake January 13th, 2014 at 11:39 am

    DavidWaldstein
    But supposedly his wife has said “it’s a goal, not a mandate.”

    I didn’t realize tanaka was married to Brian Cashman

  210. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 11:39 am

    But supposedly his wife has said “the plan is patience, prices are too high, I’m not going to make a trade just for the sake of making a trade, we like our team as it is”

  211. Shame Spencer January 13th, 2014 at 11:40 am

    Funny that the Dodgers are one of the final two teams he’s picking between (assuming that’s accurate). Many Lohudders seemed to think the Dodgers had no need for him.

    No surprised the wife is pushing the west coast… are the Yankees ready to pay the Yankee tax to get him? Hope so.

  212. Blojaldo January 13th, 2014 at 11:40 am

    It is interesting though the Yankees DFA’d Wells and not Ichiro. For baseball reasons other than Tanaka? Perhaps. Perhaps not.

  213. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 11:40 am

    Bret-

    I don’t necessarily disagree.

    It’s also one reason I surmise they went so hard after HK.

  214. Shame Spencer January 13th, 2014 at 11:42 am

    The reported contract figures are a little more than I expected… I thought someone might go to $200 million but I never thought it’d be the Yanks.

  215. Howler January 13th, 2014 at 11:42 am

    So MTU…was Bigfoot a Mormon…and did he lust after Bailey as much as you do ;)

  216. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 11:43 am

    MTU,

    Kuroda and Ichiro (to a lesser extent) definitely filled needs but I think there’s more to it than that. Lots of players could have filled those same needs at similar prices yet the targets and ultimate solutions were Kuroda and Ichiro.

    We’re hearing about Tanaka, just this year, most of us.

    Yankees scouts have known about him for years, maybe 3 or more?

  217. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 11:44 am

    I think the Yankees are better prepared to flex than the Dodgers and I think they will if they have to.

    Will that be enough ?

    Who frickin’ knows.

    Tanaka should definitely consider his Family’s desires as well as his own.

    Around here we have a saying, it goes “happy wife = happy life”.

    ;)

  218. Shame Spencer January 13th, 2014 at 11:44 am

    Blojaldo January 13th, 2014 at 11:40 am

    It is interesting though the Yankees DFA’d Wells and not Ichiro. For baseball reasons other than Tanaka? Perhaps. Perhaps not.

    ————–

    Probably just a business decision… Ichiro could still be moved, but no one even wanted Wells for free.

  219. blake January 13th, 2014 at 11:44 am

    If Tanakas wife starts talking about how this is a process…..

  220. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 11:46 am

    His wife can be happy in NYC as well. This everlasting quest to be always just a little bit happier tomorrow than you are today, is what plagues western civilization.

    Easterners go with the flow and follow the middle path like the Buddha?

    Am I right?

  221. Shame Spencer January 13th, 2014 at 11:46 am

    blake – I saw that thing about big foot where that guy shot a ‘feral human’ lol… insane! I’m figuring the show is made up of actors and not real people that shot real humans!

  222. Howler January 13th, 2014 at 11:46 am

    Ichiro was another one of those Jerks, knee reactions…umm knee jerk reactions, sorry no coffee yet…they could’ve had better players at less money…but needed the star power, and the marketing that they thought he’d bring.

  223. Shame Spencer January 13th, 2014 at 11:46 am

    :arrow:

  224. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 11:47 am

    Bret-

    They have attended a lot f his games over the last 2 years.

    Anyone who is relevant has seen him pitch.

    So yes, this idea didn’t just hatch yesterday IMO.

    Howler-

    I covet good pitching. The more of it the better.

    ;)

  225. blake January 13th, 2014 at 11:47 am

    Yanks need tanaka a lot more than the Dodgers so if they don’t get him it’s because of 189….I don’t see any other way to look at it. They need him….if they don’t get him it’s about money

  226. RadioKev January 13th, 2014 at 11:48 am

    Shame Spencer January 13th, 2014 at 11:42 am
    The reported contract figures are a little more than I expected… I thought someone might go to $200 million but I never thought it’d be the Yanks.
    ———

    Yankees are the most desperate, rich team. I’m not surprised by the big money. I would be surprised by more than 7 years.

  227. MTU January 13th, 2014 at 11:48 am

    In the battle between Hollywood and B’way the outcome is far from certain.

    :(

  228. yankee21 January 13th, 2014 at 11:48 am

    I agree with the LAD being the front runners to land him for the reasons you stated and baseball reasons; better pitcher’s park, better IF defense and LAD closer to being a legitimate WS candidate.

  229. Bret The Hitman January 13th, 2014 at 11:49 am

    Blake you sound nervous, don’t be, he’s ours.

  230. yankee21 January 13th, 2014 at 11:52 am

    If Hal goes cheap on tanaka offer there will be fan outrage . OTOH, if he makes a solid offer at market levels and Tanaka chooses somewhere else then no problem and I think many fans will cut him slack.

  231. yankee21 January 13th, 2014 at 11:55 am

    If I’m Tanaka I would tell the Dodgers show the love and you got me. LA makes too much sense for Tanaka compared to NY unless he has always dreamed of being a Yankee.

  232. Ted Nelson January 13th, 2014 at 12:02 pm

    “Right now we have replacement level or worse at 2B and 3B.”

    Literally the only guy that applies to is Eduardo Nunez. You can make a point that the Yankees have a questionable IF without exaggerating or lying. Lying about it takes away your credibility.

    “Yanks need tanaka a lot more than the Dodgers so if they don’t get him it’s because of 189….I don’t see any other way to look at it. They need him”

    Free agency is a two way street. There’s another really obvious way of looking at Tanaka signing in LA: Tanaka prefers to live in LA and/or play for the Dodgers for the next 5, 7, 9 years. Players don’t have to take the highest bid. Just yesterday Scott Sizemore signed with the Yankees on a minor league deal when he reportedly had two MLB offers on the table.

    “It is interesting though the Yankees DFA’d Wells and not Ichiro. For baseball reasons other than Tanaka? Perhaps. Perhaps not.”

    Ichiro was a much better player in 2013. The baseball only explanation is really strong. We don’t really need a conspiracy theory to figure out why a team cut a -0.8 fWAR guy with no above average baseball skill left and kept a 1.1 fWAR guy with more than one above average skills left (defense + baserunning). 2 fWAR better.

  233. Yankee Trader January 13th, 2014 at 12:18 pm

    Homerun park factor in 2012- not much difference, widens in 2013

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/p.....t/HRFactor

    Facilities -Yankee Advantage
    Familiarity Casey Close with Organization-Even Tex, Jeter, Greinke, Kershaw all clients.
    Better infield defense-both not great slight advantage Dodgers.
    Outfield defense-Yankees
    Bullpen-Dodgers
    Chance for lower ERA-NL Dodgers, however Kuroda was exception
    Best chance to improve splitter and feel comfortable-Yankees with Kuroda as mentor.
    Biggest need-even, because the Dodgers really need to extend Kershaw instead, and the Yankees need help in their rotation.
    Money-Yankees by about a Billion! :)

    Davis Island south of Tampa, where St. Jetersberg’s home is, is as Nice as what you’ll find in Hollywood.

    Conclusion: Yankees sign Tanaka with perks for family travel, clubhouse seats, etc.

  234. Yankee Trader January 13th, 2014 at 12:20 pm

    That’s just my personal opinion, subject to change at any time, but I hope not.

    New Post—–>

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