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ICYMI: Game times set for 2014 season

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 18, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

This kind of slipped my attention this week — I blame the fact my email was nearly nonfunctional for a couple of day, even though that’s a pretty bad excuse — but Major League Baseball has announced the game times for next season. There are still a few TBDs sprinkled in there, but for the most part, the game times are set.

The Yankees open with three straight night games in Houston, then they get one night game and two day games in Toronto before coming to the Bronx for a 1:05 p.m. home opener on April 7. Three of the first five home games are day games, including the first two. The series opener in St. Louis is an afternoon game, which matters to me, because it means a late dinner with my friends that night. I was really hoping for a day game in Kansas City on June 9, but no luck. Gonna be an early morning flight to Seattle the next day, with a game that night. The regular season ends with a day game at Fenway. Potentially a nice way to finish.

The full Yankees schedule is available through this link, and below is the initial schedule for ESPN Sunday night games with the dreaded 8:05 p.m. first pitch. The Yankees, of course, have two of the first five.

ESPN schedule

 

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275 Responses to “ICYMI: Game times set for 2014 season”

  1. MTU January 18th, 2014 at 1:08 pm

    You can almost smell real baseball.

    Getting close.

    ;)

  2. macintosh January 18th, 2014 at 1:10 pm

    the red sox have won 30% of the past ten years.

    the giants have won 20% of past ten years.

    the cardinals have win 20% of past ten years.

    the yankees are at 10%.

    so why are the yankees behind the red sox , giants , and cardinals?

    facts are facts.

    the yankees are not the yankees the past ten years.

    the red sox are now the yankees.

    that’s what hal has brought us.

    hal is the best thing the red sox have going.

    of course he could prove me wrong and sign tanaka.

    personally,i think he’d need more than a few gummie bears to get his testosterone up enough to pull the tanaka trigger.

  3. MTU January 18th, 2014 at 1:12 pm

    Apple-

    Feel free to oblige him.

    Give him a whole bagful.

    ;)

  4. Ted Nelson January 18th, 2014 at 1:20 pm

    “Clearly I do not favor it. I don’t think Hal does either.”

    MTU,

    You keep talking in absolutes. What someone favors when a player is asking for one price is not necessarily the same as what they favor when he’s asking for another. Free agency is a somewhat dynamic market where you’ve got to outbid 29 other teams. The Yankees may find a deal they’re comfortable with, but they also may not.

    I would favor signing a good player for good value to doing nothing, but I would not favor drastically overpaying to doing nothing. Hal seems to agree with that after letting Cano walk, along with countless other good FAs the Yankees pass on every year.

  5. MTU January 18th, 2014 at 1:23 pm

    Fine Ted.

    But I think you pose a false dichotomy.

    I see the options more along a spectrum of ability and pricing rather than only good value or bad value.

    For me that’s entirely too simplistic for me.

  6. MTU January 18th, 2014 at 1:24 pm

    In other words Ted.

    I’m not sure we disagree.

    ;)

  7. MTU January 18th, 2014 at 1:25 pm

    Time for lunch.

    The bell is ringing.

  8. Ted Nelson January 18th, 2014 at 1:25 pm

    “How stupid would it be, and actually ironic, if the Yankees went to all this trouble to fix their O only to wind up neglecting their Pitching.

    That would be height of stupid in my book. A real hoot.”

    But signed Matt Garza for, say, 6 years and $120 million would be smart? That, to me, would be the height of stupidity. We’ve seen it time and again with mediocre FA SPs the Yankees have paid as if they’re elite.

    Clearly the Yankees are trying to address P. They’ve already re-signed Kuroda and are going after Tanaka hard. Most of the other guys on the market are arguably marginal upgrades over what they already have, though, so there’s a limit to what they’re likely to spend on those guys. I’m quite sure that there would be for you too, if you were actually responsible for the decisions.

  9. blake January 18th, 2014 at 1:32 pm

    I can deal with not being awesome in 2014 if it’s part of a bigger plan……we have to see what happens.

    If they miss on Tanaka and drop under the cap….but plan to go nuts next year when perhaps some of their prospects will be ready then I can live with that.

    To me that’s better than forcing something that’s not there this year…..

  10. Ted Nelson January 18th, 2014 at 1:33 pm

    “Not really.

    Stockpiling arms and catchers was indeed their focus for a number of drafts (think 2006 to 2010 or so) but it does appear they have shifted their focus the last couple of drafts to more position players.

    Obviously, their previous strategy wasn’t producing the expected results.”

    This is a false narrative.

    First of all, they are still working to stockpile SPs and Cs. In just 2012 they used their biggest IFA bonus and a 2nd rounder on a C. Or maybe their biggest IFA there was DePaula, who is a SP, as was their 1st rounder. Every team is trying to stockpile SPs. That’s just not something that’s unique to the Yankees.

    In 2009 they used a 1st and a huge bonus on an OF. In 2010 it was an IF. It was five picks from 2006-8 that they went after Ps in the 1st. That could as easily just be normal variation and opportunism as a strategy of only going after Ps and Cs. There were no Cs in there in the first. 2 of the 4 Ps they signed from the 1st round have had MLB success. That’s actually a really good rate for late first rounders, who usually make an MLB impact at about a 20% rate. Again, you have to frame this analysis within reasonable expectations.

  11. MTU January 18th, 2014 at 1:33 pm

    “Most of the other guys on the market are arguably marginal upgrades over what they already have, though, so there’s a limit to what they’re likely to spend on those guys. I’m quite sure that there would be for you too, if you were actually responsible for the decisions.”

    That’s the part I do not agree with. that they would only be marginal upgrades over what they have.

    You mean to tell me that you think Ubaldo, Garza, or even ES would only be “marginal upgrades”

    over Phelps, Pineda, warren, or Nuno ?

    If so, you are way more of an optimist than I am, and that’s saying a lot.

    I don’t agree with that at all.

    Phelps would be lucky to be a #4 guy, and he is innings limited.

    Pineda is a total X factor. innings limited as well.

    Warren is largely unproven and also innings limited.

    Nuno might be injury prone and I don’t see him as better than a #5 type.

    CC is a question mark.

    Kuroda needs his innings managed.

    Will the real Ivan Nova please stand up.

    If you are comfortable fine.

    I’m not.

    :)

  12. MTU January 18th, 2014 at 1:35 pm

    like I said earlier lunchtime.

    Please excuse me.

  13. Ted Nelson January 18th, 2014 at 1:38 pm

    “I see the options more along a spectrum of ability and pricing rather than only good value or bad value.”

    It’s not an either or thing, it’s both. There might not be good value anywhere along that spectrum, is what I’m saying to you, because that spectrum is all of about 6 players wide if Arroyo and Maholm are the bottom of the barrel.

    You keep saying that it would be unacceptable not to make a move somewhere on the highest 2/3 of that spectrum, which ignores the value aspect of things.

  14. Tar January 18th, 2014 at 1:46 pm

    Clearly the Yankees are trying to address P. They’ve already re-signed Kuroda and are going after Tanaka hard. Most of the other guys on the market are arguably marginal upgrades over what they already have, though, so there’s a limit to what they’re likely to spend on those guys.”

    I agree with this. The Yankees have gotten in trouble in the past by spending for the sake of spending. Tanaka excepted….what you are getting for the likely price ($ and years) is just not worth it.

    Miss out on Tanaka…explore the trade route, try your farm system, maybe a flyer on Santana. Other than that I would pass on the other “names” out there.

  15. mick January 18th, 2014 at 1:49 pm

    real yankee fans are the 27% ers
    sign tanaka.
    roll the effing dice.
    =============
    That is BS.
    Just like they did with Cano, right?
    Talk is cheap…

  16. MTU January 18th, 2014 at 1:54 pm

    Ted-

    “You keep saying that it would be unacceptable not to make a move somewhere on the highest 2/3 of that spectrum, which ignores the value aspect of things.”

    I’m not worried about Hal’s dollars.

    And it’s unacceptable FWIS only because I don’t think those other guys fit the bill even if they are relatively inexpensive. Just don’t think they’re good enough to get us to where we want to go, or need to be IMO.

    That’s my choice as a fan. Those are my judgements. The judgements of an amateur admittedly.

    It’s not my Team and it sure as sh*t isn’t my money so I’ll have no choice but to accept what they decide on.

    I hope they take my preferred route is all. if not fine.

    ;)

  17. bigdan22 January 18th, 2014 at 1:58 pm

    http://www.pinstripealley.com/.....-refsnyder

    Here’s a real good article showing just how bad the Yanks have been developing infielders for about the last 10 years. The infield could be pretty awful this year but the bigger problem is the near future looks just as bad or worse. The organization did a pretty good of addressing the outfield this off season through free agency and that should be mostly set for the next couple of years it seems. But there’s a lot of work yet to be done for the infield to even get to average. Hope Arod gets real strong during his sabbatical.

  18. joeman January 18th, 2014 at 1:59 pm

    if no Tanaka…go get Garza and Balfour

  19. MTU January 18th, 2014 at 2:00 pm

    Dan-

    Maybe we’ll be able to help ourselves out thru trading ?

    ;)

  20. MTU January 18th, 2014 at 2:00 pm

    Joeman-

    Keep your eyes on the prize.

    :)

  21. joeman January 18th, 2014 at 2:01 pm

    is Cinn sure they don’t want to trade Bailey to the NYY

  22. MTU January 18th, 2014 at 2:02 pm

    Joeman-

    I think they have to keep an open mind.

  23. mick January 18th, 2014 at 2:04 pm

    No matter what happens with this team, to say you are not a true fan when they lose demonstrates ignorance.
    To ignore the team in losing years makes you a bandwagon fan.
    Whether the losing is due to any multitude of reasons, winning is not guaranteed.
    Getting Tanaka does not guarantee winning.
    Who picked the Red Sox to win it all last year?
    Pleasant surprise was what it was.
    They aren’t even picked to repeat.
    Why not?
    Like I said before, some fans are just entitled, funny how they aren’t New Yorkers, they give us a bad name.

  24. Ted Nelson January 18th, 2014 at 2:06 pm

    “You mean to tell me that you think Ubaldo, Garza, or even ES would only be “marginal upgrades”

    over Phelps, Pineda, warren, or Nuno ?”

    Yes.

    I think those guys are mid-rotation SPs in general. Santana and Ubaldo have been front-end SPs, but they’ve also been almost unusable just about as many recent seasons as front-end (2 of the last 5 for both including 2 of the past 3 for Ubaldo and 1 of the last 2 for Santana). Tons of variability, but the mean is about mid-rotation. Santana has averaged 1.5 fWAR and bWAR the past three seasons, while for Ubaldo it’s been 2.2 fWAR and 0.9 bWAR.

    Garza had a monster 2011, but has averaged 1.6 fWAR and 1.3 bWAR the past two seasons. Over the last three we’re talking 2.7 fWAR and 1.8 bWAR. Is he more likely to repeat his career year from 2011 or continue to be a mid-to-back of the rotation SP? I’d go with the latter.

    Pineda’s only MLB season he was a 3 WAR SP. It’s an injury that a lot of guys have come back from at 100%, so if he’s healthy I think he’s probably as good as or better than the 3 FAs. Every indication seems to be that he’s healthy.

    Phelps has been on a 2 fWAR pace both of his MLB seasons (which I think is a better predictive metric than bWAR because FIP and xFIP are better predictors in general of future ERA than ERA is) and his bWAR pace averages out to about 2 as well.

    The Yankees FO seems to be talking about Warren before Phelps when discussing the rotation. I’m not as high on him as Phelps personally, but I think he’s at least usable. Again, that’s not something I could say for Ubaldo or Ervin as recently as 2012.

    “Phelps would be lucky to be a #4 guy, and he is innings limited.”

    I don’t know what “innings limited” means, but Phelps is 27 years old. Innings limits are in place for Ps under 23-25 years old or so, whose connective tissue hasn’t fully formed yet. Phelps is physically mature, so I don’t see any reason to think he’d have an innings limit.

    “Pineda is a total X factor. innings limited as well.”

    An x factor, but not a total wild card. Of the 4 or 5 guys who I’ve seen listed as having similar procedures, I think all but one came back as good as before. He’s 25 and was rehabbing his arm for 15 months, so it’s not obvious he’ll be on an inning limit.

    “Warren is largely unproven and also innings limited.”

    Like Phelps, he’s probably not on any innings limit. He’s 26 years old and threw 150 IP in both 2011 and 12.

    “If you are comfortable fine.
    I’m not.”

    I didn’t say anything about whether I am comfortable or not overall. I said that I might be more comfortable with the status quo than overpaying for an addition. This is why I keep talking about value and being confused at why you are ignoring it.

  25. Pat M. January 18th, 2014 at 2:07 pm

    don baylor is in our 4 some today.

  26. bigdan22 January 18th, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    MTU January 18th, 2014 at 2:00 pm
    Dan-

    Maybe we’ll be able to help ourselves out thru trading ?

    ——–
    True. But the stack is a little short on chips right now. Need a couple “Monteros” to pop up this year. Then maybe the Yanks can open for business. Unfortunately this off season has been all about free agency for them.

  27. bigdan22 January 18th, 2014 at 2:09 pm

    Pat M. January 18th, 2014 at 2:07 pm
    don baylor is in our 4 some today.

    ———

    Hope his shoulder is ok on the backswing. He’s taken a lot of hits there :)

  28. MTU January 18th, 2014 at 2:10 pm

    Ted-

    I’m not ignoring it.

    My valuations are just different than yours is all.

    And now I think we’re done.

    At least I am.

    I’m not interesting in training for the LoHud debating Team.

    :)

  29. mick January 18th, 2014 at 2:10 pm

    The Red Sox got lucky last year with Uehara.
    He was the true reason they won it all.
    The others did what they always did…Pedroia, Ortiz…
    Tazawa was another. No big name acquisitions.
    To hang your hopes on Tanaka is foolish…

  30. MTU January 18th, 2014 at 2:12 pm

    Dan-

    There may be other possibilities at some point as chips, or not.

    Let’s see how things continue to unfold.

    :)

  31. tomingeorgia January 18th, 2014 at 2:13 pm

    Mr. mick,
    I’ve been a fan for better than 60 years, good years and bad. Reared in and around NYC. Why belittle me and others who left for any number of reasons? I have no idea who gets Tanaka, or what ever further plans the FO has in mind, but I hope they work out for the better. Does that make me “entitled”?

  32. mick January 18th, 2014 at 2:13 pm

    The Red Sox got lucky last year with Uehara.
    He was the true reason they won it all.
    Tazawa was another. No big name acquisitions.
    The others did what they always did…Pedroia, Ortiz…

    To hang your hopes on Tanaka is foolish…
    ============================
    Reads better this way.

  33. mick January 18th, 2014 at 2:15 pm

    Mr Tom

    You took it wrong. You are the opposite of the type of fan I was describing, living and dying with them , win or lose.

  34. Ted Nelson January 18th, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    “I’m not worried about Hal’s dollars.”

    Nor am I. I recognize that there’s a limit to how many dollars the Yankees ownership will spend, though, so a dollar spent on Player X is one less dollar you can spend on Player Y.

    You keep acting as if there is no opportunity cost to any of these moves: just sign guys who will make you better opening day 2014. If it’s a 4, 5, 6, 7 year deal, though, it’s not just 2014′s opening day we have to worry about. Other guys are going to become available throughout that time period, and locking up money at poor value today might stop them from making good investments going forward.

    “I hope they take my preferred route is all. if not fine.”

    I don’t really understand what your preferred route is, other than that it involves signing someone. Seems to involve signing just about anyone who is better than their current options for just about any price, though.

  35. macintosh January 18th, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    “That is BS.
    Just like they did with Cano, right?
    Talk is cheap…”

    and so is hal

    hal either signs tanakaa or else the 2014 season is down the tubes

    he has no other get out of jail free card

    people like you seem to want to ride the elevator all the way to the bottom.

    that makes no sense to me.

    we’ll know in a few days about where tanaka lands.

    we’re really just killing time until that happens.

  36. charlestonchew January 18th, 2014 at 2:18 pm

    I bet you we find out on Monday that Tanaka is a Yankee.

  37. macintosh January 18th, 2014 at 2:20 pm

    “The Red Sox got lucky last year with Uehara.”

    they got lucky thee times in the past ten years?

    maybe your hero hal should take some luck lessons from henry.

  38. macintosh January 18th, 2014 at 2:20 pm

    “I bet you we find out on Monday that Tanaka is a Yankee.”

    that’d be a game changer.

  39. mick January 18th, 2014 at 2:21 pm

    hal either signs tanakaa or else the 2014 season is down the tubes
    ===================
    absolute(ist) BS….maybe for you it is….your brand of anarchy cannot include guarantees.

  40. Ted Nelson January 18th, 2014 at 2:21 pm

    “The Red Sox got lucky last year with Uehara.
    He was the true reason they won it all.
    The others did what they always did…Pedroia, Ortiz…
    Tazawa was another. No big name acquisitions.”

    I’m not sure what your point is, but Napoli, Victorino, Peavy, Dempster, and Drew were all pretty big name acquisitions. So was Lackey when they got him.

    I’m not even sure what you mean when you say that their BP was the “true reason” they won it all. If your SPs and position players aren’t pulling their weight, even a BP that never gives up a single run isn’t going to help you win anything.

  41. mick January 18th, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    well at least your new nickname is apropos randy, “bad apple” suits you…. :)

  42. austinmac January 18th, 2014 at 2:23 pm

    Pat M,

    Baylor is a good Austin native.

  43. mick January 18th, 2014 at 2:24 pm

    I’m not sure what your point is, but Napoli, Victorino, Peavy, Dempster, and Drew were all pretty big name acquisitions. So was Lackey when they got him.
    ========================
    Why weren’t they picked to win it ?
    Most had them near the bottom again.
    Hanging the entire season on Tanaka is a desperate idea.

  44. charlestonchew January 18th, 2014 at 2:26 pm

    While I’m not THAT sure that Tanaka will become a Yankee, I’m beginning to think it’s the most likely outcome given what we’re hearing about his preferences and what Chicago and LA are likely to offer.

    If the Yankees lose out on Tanaka, I don’t think they’re going to sign any of the top remaining pitchers. They’ve at least made that much clear. Arroyo isn’t out of the question on a one year deal and guys like Maholm or J. Santana are a possibility for depth. They’re probably looking toward the 2014 offseason with eyes on Lester / Scherzer (at least one of them will hit FA).

    I’m not so sure that Scherzer or Lester will reach FA, though I have a sneaking suspicion that Lester is far more likely to. The team loves him, no doubt, but the Red Sox tend to shy away from guys like Lester as they age. He has shown some signs of wear and diminished results lately, but it’s possible the Yankees jump on him if he reaches FA. I’m much less sure that they’re interested in Scherzer. In my mind, Scherzer’s an injury waiting to happen. There are, of course, guys like Masterson and Bailey that are likely to be available, so the Yanks may have a much better opportunity if they wait. Going with in-house options and depth moves in 2014 is a bit of a gamble, but I think we have the guys to round out the rotation nicely. We just have to be sure to sign a few more serviceable bats before the offseason is over.

  45. Ted Nelson January 18th, 2014 at 2:26 pm

    “My valuations are just different than yours is all.”

    You can’t have a valuation without price. That’s the issue I have with your points, and the reason I keep asking you to explain yourself. You don’t seem interested in actually explaining what you’re talking about, though. All I understand is that you want them to sign an big name SP for any price. I’ve been trying to push for details, but haven’t really gotten any besides that you don’t like their current SPs, but you do like every big name SP on the FA market.

    To value an asset you can’t just say “my valuation of that player/company/house/etc. is that it’s good, so buy!” You have to come up with a price that the asset is worth to you. Then you pay up to that price, depending on how much you want it and what your alternatives are.

  46. mick January 18th, 2014 at 2:28 pm

    I’d like to see some of you as owners and what you’d do.
    If you had a fantasy baseball team, no doubt you’d ruin it.
    Pay Tanaka whatever he wants, in fact, pay him more..
    Just like you would have with Cano.

  47. Tar January 18th, 2014 at 2:28 pm

    One can strongly dislike the FO and the moves they make and still be a “fan”
    One can also live in Taiwan or Cali and still be a fan.

    And Cashman or Levine are not the Yankees, they never will be either, just a couple of ….. employed by the Yankees .

    Also I highly doubt anyone reading Lohud in January should have their “fandom” questioned.

  48. Pat M. January 18th, 2014 at 2:34 pm

    the tin cup gets a bad rap in my mind. he stepped on toes as did gb and sj but these guys know the game and were good for the blog. besides they ate my friends so I am compelled to stick up for them. tome to win back some of my lost dough from yesterday. later I am tail lights. go ucla

  49. mick January 18th, 2014 at 2:35 pm

    They lost their closer and setup man and Uehara came out of nowhere.
    Tazawa as well.
    No matter what the rest of the team did, Uehara was their MVP.
    Without him, they would not have won.

  50. Ted Nelson January 18th, 2014 at 2:36 pm

    “Why weren’t they picked to win it ?
    Most had them near the bottom again.
    Hanging the entire season on Tanaka is a desperate idea.”

    I understand less now than I did before.

    Many of their players exceeded expectations, not just one RP. Especially their SP. Lackey was considered totally done, Lester just about the same. Both had huge seasons. Buchholz couldn’t stay healthy, but was absolutely dominant for half a season. Even Dempster and Doubront at least held their own and they grabbed Peavy mid-season. What was supposed to be just an awful rotation was

    Their position players also generally out performed expectations. Victorino and Napoli had huge bounce back years. Drew was healthy for the first time in 3 years. Salty had a career year. So did Nava, Carp, and Iglesias.

    They had a pretty well constructed team and an insane amount of luck or extreme performance. Just about everyone had close to a best case season at the same time.

    Who is hanging the entire season on Tanaka? I’m not sure what you’re talking about.

  51. MTU January 18th, 2014 at 2:36 pm

    Thanks for the lecture Ted.

    Carry on.

    Enjoy speaking with yourself.

    One of these days you’ll realize that no one is under any obligation to answer your questions, or to even acknowledge you.

    We all do that for each other as a courtesy. You can’t demand answers.

    I am starting to find you both tiresome and annoying.

    And I think you bring that to yourself by the way you present yourself here.

    I think Blake and many others would agree with me.

    Take it as piece of well-meaning advice.

    Lighten up.

    ;)

  52. blake January 18th, 2014 at 2:37 pm

    @npbtracker: Nikkan Sports thinks Tanaka could get 5 offers of $100m+ (LA, NYY, CWS, CUBS, AZ). Suggests that the Angels are out. http://t.co/H8u9IBWgkt

  53. BMcP January 18th, 2014 at 2:37 pm

    I’m going to try an experiment…I’ll let you know if my theory is proven correct.

    “The Yankees are going to win the division this year.”

  54. bigdan22 January 18th, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    Don’t think Tanaka will come down to the last day. Close and crew have run a tight ship. A deliberate and thoughtful process. It follows then that Close will get the finalists to provide their best offers when he sets the deadline. I expect this to be done by Tues.

  55. mick January 18th, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    Lester just about the same.
    ============
    Nonsense.

  56. blake January 18th, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    That’s awesome about Baylor pat

  57. tomingeorgia January 18th, 2014 at 2:39 pm

    Mister mick,
    I don’t know what any of these guys is “worth”, just that somebody will pay him according to what “they” think he’s worth. The salaries paid surpassed my understanding years ago. If the Yankees or any other team value someone like Tanaka as a $25+ million dollar man, all I can do is shake my head and root for the Yankees.

  58. bigdan22 January 18th, 2014 at 2:42 pm

    npbtracker: Nikkan Sports thinks Tanaka could get 5 offers of $100m+ (LA, NYY, CWS, CUBS, AZ). Suggests that the Angels are out. http://t.co/H8u9IBWgkt

    ——-

    I count out CWS and AZ too. LA, NY and CUBs give Tanaka a nice diversified selection to choose from. Providing money is close, each have their own strengths and weaknesses. If Cubs go 25 per or better I think they win.

  59. macintosh January 18th, 2014 at 2:43 pm

    Hanging the entire season on Tanaka is a desperate idea.”

    yeah , well who put hal in that position ?

    it is what it is

    …it’s still his only play ,

    and then tanaka has to be good.
    for the gamble to pay off

  60. mick January 18th, 2014 at 2:44 pm

    some just want to set the yankee bar so high that failure is built in.
    tanaka or bust means you can now say i told you so if they don’t win a title.
    some will just go to any length to prove they were right…

  61. Ted Nelson January 18th, 2014 at 2:45 pm

    “And Cashman or Levine are not the Yankees, they never will be either, just a couple of ….. employed by the Yankees .”

    Why are you lumping Cashman and Levine together?

    “They lost their closer and setup man and Uehara came out of nowhere.
    Tazawa as well.
    No matter what the rest of the team did, Uehara was their MVP.
    Without him, they would not have won.”

    I don’t follow your logic. No matter how good anyone else on the team was, one guy was their MVP? Most valuable is a relative thing and can only be assessed in terms of their value of everyone else. If someone else was more valuable, Uehara was not most valuable.

    It’s also just not true that Uehara came out of nowhere. Had a career year, sure, but in 4 years as an MLB RP he’s posted 4 sub-3 ERAs. Literally in just 2012 he had a sub-2 ERA. He was a good RP. A 1.5 fWAR guy.

    Tazawa had a better 2012 than 2013. That you didn’t know who these guys were before 2013 didn’t mean they came out of nowhere.

  62. mick January 18th, 2014 at 2:48 pm

    hey. i want tanaka but am more interested in the journey than the guarantee.
    it doesn’t matter what i want anyway.
    we’ll see what tanaka wants…it’s his decision more than Hal’s.

  63. Ted Nelson January 18th, 2014 at 2:51 pm

    “One of these days you’ll realize that no one is under any obligation to answer your questions, or to even acknowledge you.”

    Please stop with the strawman. Obviously I don’t think anyone is under an obligation to answer me.

    You do keep answering me, though. It’s what we call a conversation. Yet you keep referring to your argument without actually making it. That you hope the Yankees will do what you think they should. That our valuations of players differ when neither of us has offered any valuation. All I’m asking you is what you think they should do… So far what I have is sign any of Tanaka, Garza, Jimenez, or Ervin Santana for any price. Instead of building strawman arguments to make me look crazy, why not just explain to me what your position is? It would take the same amount of time and be a lot more productive.

  64. Tar January 18th, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    “Why are you lumping Cashman and Levine together?”

    Because they are both part of the FO. But also from what I understand Levine has made some moves that Cashman did not necessarily agree with. So apparently Levine is part of the player decision making process.

  65. macintosh January 18th, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    “tanaka or bust means you can now say i told you so if they don’t win a title.”

    i already get to say i told you so for last year. it’s not that satisfying.

    i would much prefer to going back to the yankees being a cutting edge baseball team that wins world series than beating people i reluctantly interact with on a blog.

    the whole baseball world is waiting on tanaka.

    this used to be where the yankees excelled.

    as i said, we’re just killing time by going after each other just for sport until a decision comes.

  66. austinmac January 18th, 2014 at 2:54 pm

    MTU,

    The issue with Ted is he never expresses an independent thought. Every post begins with an argument with someone else’s point as if to try to show superior thought. It comes off to me as sad.

  67. joeman January 18th, 2014 at 2:57 pm

    NYY are at 14/1 to win the 2/14 ..WS

  68. bigdan22 January 18th, 2014 at 2:57 pm

    It’s bit of an open question how much culture means to Tanaka. If it means a lot, that could work seriously against the Cubs. The Asian population in Chicago in particular, and the Midwest in general, is tiny compared to southern California. It’s possible then that Tanaka may choose LA even if LA doesn’t make the highest bid. It’s pretty clear that Tanaka is a luxury to LA compared to NY and the Cubs. At some point in the bidding, because of that, they’ll drop out. But they still may be high enough to win on culture.

    New York is not nearly as Asian as southern Cali, but from a cultural standpoint, it is in many ways still the center of the world. When you travel internationally, you are bound to see more Yankee hats than any other sports paraphernalia. That’s not because foreigners are Yankee fans. It’s the “NY.” If Tanaka is a cosmopolitan type of guy and likes Tokyo, you can bet he likes NY. If that’s true, the Yanks may not have to get as high as the Cubs either.

    We’ll know soon.

  69. mick January 18th, 2014 at 2:57 pm

    i would much prefer to going back to the yankees being a cutting edge baseball team that wins world series than beating people i reluctantly interact with on a blog.
    ============================================
    why do you bother then?
    and who did you beat?

    =========================
    as i said, we’re just killing time by going after each other just for sport until a decision comes.
    ===================
    See above. What, no :) ?

  70. austinmac January 18th, 2014 at 3:01 pm

    Dan,

    I cited Japanese population earlier from the 2000 census. Thirty-six thousand in LA, 22,000 in NY and 4,000 in Chicago. That is a big difference. I’m hoping it does matter with respect to Chicago.

  71. jmills January 18th, 2014 at 3:01 pm

    I’m taking chicken to a Red Sox game here in, April. I can’t wait to drive him there, although I’m not going to risk the 91 Prelude in those parking lots – gonna’ take the red Ferrari standard matrix instead :)

  72. MTU January 18th, 2014 at 3:01 pm

    Later gang.

    I’m out for now.

    Exercise time.

    :)

  73. Ys Guy January 18th, 2014 at 3:01 pm

    ted is basically down to just a few people who read or respond to his posts, so he argues incessantly with those people because they are the only ones left who even acknowlege his presence.

  74. Poetkiosk January 18th, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    Anyone else notice that Ted’s posts are quadruple the length of anyone else’s and that he gets mad when people don’t answer his questions? Like he is in charge or something! I’m starting to just skip them. Pretty tedious to read self righteousness on such a grand scale. Reminds me of Winchester from MASH.

  75. austinmac January 18th, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    Mills,

    Chicken worked for Boggs at Fenway. Good luck with this chicken. :)

  76. jmills January 18th, 2014 at 3:05 pm

    Austin, I want chicken to proudly wear his Yankees hat, and if there’s any trouble, those transplanted Sox fans will have me and Dave Stieb to deal with.

  77. Ted Nelson January 18th, 2014 at 3:05 pm

    “Because they are both part of the FO. But also from what I understand Levine has made some moves that Cashman did not necessarily agree with. So apparently Levine is part of the player decision making process.”

    I don’t really follow your argument, but you seem to just be looking to blame anyone for the Yankees falling short of perfection.

  78. Ted Nelson January 18th, 2014 at 3:06 pm

    “ted is basically down to just a few people who read or respond to his posts, so he argues incessantly with those people because they are the only ones left who even acknowlege his presence.”

    What the hell is your problem?

  79. mick January 18th, 2014 at 3:07 pm

    The problem with Tanaka and his FA and why it is so frustrating is that he is a mystery man.
    Like most IFA’s we have no clue who they are until under the microscope of watching them play every day.

    In the past, Japanese players didn’t really go thru the FA process so there was no wait period to endure.

    Plus , there is nothing to go by as he has never faced a major leaguer before and is not accustomed to the workload he will be facing.

    To say , he is the savior is far-fetched and presumptuous.

  80. Tar January 18th, 2014 at 3:07 pm

    “I don’t really follow your argument”

    You should have stopped there, at least you would have been correct.

  81. austinmac January 18th, 2014 at 3:08 pm

    Ted,

    See if you can start a post without quoting another. Is it possible?

  82. Poetkiosk January 18th, 2014 at 3:10 pm

    I’m all in on Tanaka largely just because it would be fascinating to see what happens with him in pinstripes. He’s a risk but I think the worst that happens is that he pitches like #3 and we have paid him like a 1-2.

  83. jmills January 18th, 2014 at 3:10 pm

    Tar, I see you over there! You’re filing your nails while they gently drag the lake :D

  84. Ted Nelson January 18th, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    “that he gets mad when people don’t answer his questions? Like he is in charge or something!”

    Sure, if asking someone to explain their point is getting mad at them and acting like you’re in charge of them…

    Feel free to skip my comments, but I prefer comments where people actually explain their point and provide some evidence over those where people make a vague point with no details. So, I’m going to keep making posts that explain what I’m talking about and provide some evidence to substantiate my points. Or even just examine the evidence without actually making any point.

  85. Tar January 18th, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    And Ted BTW, nice strawman.

  86. bigdan22 January 18th, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    austinmac January 18th, 2014 at 3:01 pm
    Dan,

    I cited Japanese population earlier from the 2000 census. Thirty-six thousand in LA, 22,000 in NY and 4,000 in Chicago. That is a big difference. I’m hoping it does matter with respect to Chicago

    ——–

    Wow, it seems like there are 36,000 on my block! Could be that the Japanese actually represent a small percentage of the Asian people in LA. Koreatown here is probably bigger than most US cities. In fact I’m sure it is! Awesome Korean BBQ places if you are into that.

  87. Kelvin January 18th, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    I’m greedy and spoiled. I want Tanaka!

  88. BMcP January 18th, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    Teddy…have you ever considered joining a debate club?

  89. austinmac January 18th, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    Mills,

    Great song and album.

    My radio is still broken, but I did get a stereo. Things sound better on vinyl. At least to my old ears.

  90. Tar January 18th, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    Hi jmills :D

    Have to run for awhile, back later.

  91. chicken_stanley January 18th, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    greetings mac/jmills!

    I may wear my Yankee hat but for that night, I’ll be a hard core Jays fan! :)

  92. austinmac January 18th, 2014 at 3:15 pm

    Kelvin,

    I am also baseball greedy. In real life, I never have gotten the Ferrari. In baseball, I like my team to do it.

  93. bigdan22 January 18th, 2014 at 3:15 pm

    I was in Italy once and I saw a guy wearing a T-shirt that said “New York Baseball Club.”

    No kidding.

  94. chicken_stanley January 18th, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    Not very polite to only greet 2 folks… sorry about that!

    Greetings fellow “hudders”!

  95. Doreen January 18th, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    Poetkiosk,

    I’ve been guilty of many, many too long posts throughout my inhabitance of the Lohud, so I can’t really criticize anyone else for doing the same.

    :)

    Some people are able to be succinct, and they have my admiration (pat is one!). Others are like me – they seem to need to lay it all out there as it occurs to them. Kind of like “thinking out loud”

  96. Against All Odds January 18th, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    Again, you have to frame this analysis within reasonable expectations.

    —————-

    True but the Yankees were the ones that created the unreal expectations:

    We’re going be the Rays with money

    We have the most money, no secret about that. If we combine that with the best decision-making process on a consistent basis, God help the rest of baseball

    The hype around Generation Trey and the Killer B’s

  97. Poetkiosk January 18th, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    Ted just cut your posts in half and then take a large chill pill. You attract more bees with honey….

    I think your overall opinions of our current or potential rotation is wildly optimistic. As an example you really are off the mark when you use Pinedas only season as a starting point since he won’t have pitched in the majors in almost two years. He’s a total wild card. The reason why people prefer a Garza is that he’s more likely to perform.

  98. jmills January 18th, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MDJJrAP_eCI#

    Tokyo – Bruce C0ckburn

  99. Ted Nelson January 18th, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    “You should have stopped there, at least you would have been correct.”

    Because you know what your comment seems like to me? It would be hard for me to be incorrect in telling you what something seems like to me. Try reading my comments instead of assuming I’m an asshole who you will always disagree with.

    You’re calling two guys names who you acknowledge often disagree and who collectively have had as much success as any FO in baseball. I would love to read your argument if you want to make it, but the vague comments you’re making come across as a spoiled Yankees fan who is upset that his team had a bad year.

  100. Poetkiosk January 18th, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    Doreen I get that but you never ever come across as lecturing – whereas Ted does

  101. blake January 18th, 2014 at 3:18 pm

    Frank wren call ands says he will give Kimbrel for Nova and Gary Sanchez. Do you do it?

  102. mick January 18th, 2014 at 3:20 pm

    Frank wren call ands says he will give Kimbrel for Nova and Gary Sanchez. Do you do it?
    =================================
    Braves will need a closer so we give them Drob and they include J. Hey.

  103. bigdan22 January 18th, 2014 at 3:22 pm

    “Frank wren call ands says he will give Kimbrel for Nova and Gary Sanchez. Do you do it?”

    ———

    Wouldn’t do it for Nova only. I think closers in general are fairly over-rated. Very very few are consistent for more than a handful of years. Rivera is the exception that proves the rule.

  104. chicken_stanley January 18th, 2014 at 3:23 pm

    A good day for UVA BB… hope they continue to play well. Whereas I root for what I consider to be the greatest organization in the world in baseball, the college and pro teams I pull for in other sports are less than spectacular… I’m starved for some success!

  105. blake January 18th, 2014 at 3:23 pm

    They will have to trade Kinbrel soon….he’s gonna make a ton by year 3 of arbitration…..Id probbaly hang on to him this year and next and try to win a title…..but his value will never be higher than it is now……of course wren probably can’t get the big return for a closer to make it worthwhile

  106. blake January 18th, 2014 at 3:25 pm

    Wouldn’t do it for Nova only. I think closers in general are fairly over-rated. Very very few are consistent for more than a handful of years. Rivera is the exception that proves the rule.”

    I agree in general….but Kimbrel isn’t a normal closer. Id consider that though I doubt the braves would

  107. jmills January 18th, 2014 at 3:28 pm

    Austin, when I play vinyl, I don’t need to play things nearly as loud as I usually do. Still, for some reason, after all them Rush concerts and such, I can ultimately bear the slightest chord astounding from a distant room after all these crazy years. Great genetics?

  108. Ted Nelson January 18th, 2014 at 3:30 pm

    “Ted just cut your posts in half and then take a large chill pill. You attract more bees with honey….”

    Didn’t you just accuse me of acting like I’m in charge of other people? Interesting.

    “I think your overall opinions of our current or potential rotation is wildly optimistic. As an example you really are off the mark when you use Pinedas only season as a starting point since he won’t have pitched in the majors in almost two years. He’s a total wild card. The reason why people prefer a Garza is that he’s more likely to perform.”

    You have twisted my comment to the point where it’s unrecognizable. I never said anything about whether I prefer Garza or Pineda let alone who is more likely to perform. I said that there is a certain price at which Garza is no longer worth it. I didn’t even say what I think that price is. I specifically said that if one of those guys comes at good value I’d be all for having them.

    You seem to have read a lot into things I said and missed a lot of what I actually did say. The conversation what not about whether Pineda or Garza is better, but how much better and how much it’s worth. There’s also no direct trade-off, as the Yankees have two open rotation spots.

    I laid out exactly how Garza has performed in recent seasons in my comments and I don’t see any reason to assume he’s going to deviate that much from it going forward. And I also pointed out that historical examples of similar procedures to Pineda’s make him less of a wild card than people think. I specifically said he was a wild card, though. Again, if you read what I said…

  109. jmills January 18th, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    My favourite Police album – Ghost in the Machine ( Sting stole the title from a poorly known philosophy reference )……I wish I did that!

  110. mick January 18th, 2014 at 3:34 pm

    jmills meet Ted, Ted, Jmills….later.

  111. Tar January 18th, 2014 at 3:36 pm

    “Try reading my comments instead of assuming I’m an asshole who you will always disagree with.”

    Actually I do read your comments that’s why I do think you mostly are an asshole. And I just agreed with you hours ago, and don’t seem to disagree with your points any more than I agree with them. 50/50 would be a good approximation, so you can drop the “always”.

    But the asshole part seems to run in about 95% of your posts.

    And FTR Ted my point was that one can still be a fan of the Yankees, while at the same time not being a fan of the FO and it’s current head of states, Cashman and Levine. Too often posters on here will question a persons “fandom” because they criticize the FO, that is dumb, IMO. kapeesh?

  112. jmills January 18th, 2014 at 3:36 pm

    Ok, mick.

  113. Ted Nelson January 18th, 2014 at 3:37 pm

    “They will have to trade Kinbrel soon”

    Why do assume they can’t pay him? They’re a $90 million payroll team without many long-term commitments at all.

    I wouldn’t trade Sanchez and Nova for him. I think he’s a great RP, but I’d just rather have a top C prospect and a young SP who has been worth 2.5 fWAR and 3.5 bWAR two of the past three years. Or I’d rather trade them for someone better.

  114. Can of Corn January 18th, 2014 at 3:37 pm

    Ys Guy January 18th, 2014 at 3:01 pm

    ted is basically down to just a few people who read or respond to his posts, so he argues incessantly with those people because they are the only ones left who even acknowlege his presence.

    ==========

    LOL ! Truth. I do more reading than posting and in the process scroll right by those huge long posts of his without reading a word :lol:

  115. macintosh January 18th, 2014 at 3:42 pm

    hey you guys

    you want me to keep ted busy ?

    i ‘ll tie him up with the seven years of the stuff i ran by you guys .

    he won’t know what hit him.

    the two of us can just go at each other and the rest of the blog can proceed and ignore us both :)

    i’ll assume my plan is a go.
    i’ll start.

    ted , you have any hands on experience in baseball?
    do you know what a 95mph fastball feels like to hit or catch. do you know what spikes feel like in the dirt?
    can you do 100 yard long toss?

    if not, what do you really know?

    i don’t mid talking to you, but just don’t act like you know the game because you WATCH a lot.

    now me, if it wasn’t for me there probably would have been no chien ming- wang as a yankee.

    i look on the tv in the world series and see and an old roommate telling verlander what to do.

    seriously, what do you bring to this forum?

    plus have i told you my thoughts on LIVAN that’s right he’s like elvis. he needs on a first name.
    hughes was brought up too fast when he could only throw 45pitches at full velocity. we call it the eskimo spring here. it was frigid. he was ruined by being rushed in the cold and snow and rain.

    joba was stretched out too fast. when he was returned to the rotation.

    and pineda ?
    has relief pitcher written all over that whirling dervish delivery.
    can’t start without getting hurt.

    ok that ought to do it. :)

  116. BoJo January 18th, 2014 at 3:43 pm

    Pat M. January 18th, 2014 at 2:07 pm
    don baylor is in our 4 some today.
    ===
    To make him feel welcome, make sure to throw a golf ball at him to move him off the tee.

  117. Deal With It January 18th, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    Chicken:

    You have mail, try not to wet yourself from laughing to hard !

  118. Ted Nelson January 18th, 2014 at 3:45 pm

    “Kimbrel isn’t a normal closer. Id consider that though I doubt the braves would”

    Why wouldn’t the Braves consider it? Braves seem to be a very well organization. I’m sure they know Kimbrel has been the best RP in baseball the last few years. Whether you use ERA, saves, or FIP he’s right there at or near the top.

  119. jmills January 18th, 2014 at 3:46 pm

    I could’ve been, Rod Carew; I could’ve been,… a contender.

  120. chicken_stanley January 18th, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    Mr Apple – I haven’t heard the connection to Wang before… if you don’t mind, throw it out there – I’ve missed reading your stories

  121. jmills January 18th, 2014 at 3:49 pm

    Don Baylor got hit more than, Ron Hunt. What does this mean?

  122. BoJo January 18th, 2014 at 3:50 pm

    Pat M. January 18th, 2014 at 2:34 pm
    “besides they ate my friends so I am compelled to stick up for them. ”
    —-
    You defend cannibals!?!?

  123. Ys Guy January 18th, 2014 at 3:50 pm

    “To make him feel welcome, make sure to throw a golf ball at him to move him off the tee.”
    ==================================================
    even clemens couldnt get him to stop hanging that elbow over the plate.

  124. chicken_stanley January 18th, 2014 at 3:50 pm

    Deal – Got it… and btw, I did lol!

  125. Tar January 18th, 2014 at 3:51 pm

    “ok that ought to do it.”

    :D

    “can you do 100 yard long toss?”

    Hell no, I couldn’t. Right now if I tried to do a 20yd “long toss” and my arm would be wet noodle.

  126. Ted Nelson January 18th, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    macintosh,

    I’m not really interested in conversing with you, but why on earth would you assume that someone you have never met on an anonymous blog has never played baseball? I have indeed faced a 95 mph fastball. Your logic is so flawed that I don’t even know what to say to you.

  127. jmills January 18th, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    Chicken, I take it you have a glove you can fit on the plane up here?

  128. chicken_stanley January 18th, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    Have you guys ever noticed Cano’s long toss sessions pre game? So effortless, it’s amazing!

  129. chicken_stanley January 18th, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    jmills – I’m going the bare hand route! If a screamer is hit at me, I can always use my beer cup! :)

  130. pkyankfan69 January 18th, 2014 at 4:01 pm

    Christmas lights down in about 90 minutes, go me!

    Did we sign Tanaka yet?

  131. chicken_stanley January 18th, 2014 at 4:04 pm

    More bad pub for Geno:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/.....1;nfl.html

  132. pkyankfan69 January 18th, 2014 at 4:06 pm

    haha saw that… At least Geno wasn’t caught wacken it like his teammate.

  133. BoJo January 18th, 2014 at 4:06 pm

    It’s amazing how arguments flair here with the slightest provocation. I’ve been there myself once, and it is a waste of time. You people need more recreational drugs.

  134. BoJo January 18th, 2014 at 4:07 pm

    The above comment was sponsored by the state of Colorado.

  135. Revenge of Stoneburner January 18th, 2014 at 4:13 pm

    Masahiro Tanaka Rumors: Saturday
    By Charlie Wilmoth [January 18 at 1:57pm CST]
    Here’s the latest on the bidding for Masahiro Tanaka.

    The Cubs are the “lead team” for Tanaka, a source tells Levine (via Twitter).
    The Cubs have made a “real offer” to Tanaka, tweets 670TheScore.com’s Bruce Levine, who also notes that one key factor for Tanaka and his wife will be the presence of a Japanese community in his new city. On Thursday, we heard that the Cubs were “pushing hard” for Tanaka, and Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times reported on the “sales pitch” the Cubs made to Tanaka last week.

  136. chicken_stanley January 18th, 2014 at 4:17 pm

    I’m on my kindle so sometimes links are tricky but here goes

    Baseball question on Jeopardy… pretty amusing answers:

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p.....CnOrFsqYhU

  137. Poetkiosk January 18th, 2014 at 4:18 pm

    If Tanaka goes to Chicagp he’s not very bright.

  138. BoJo January 18th, 2014 at 4:20 pm

    Next I expect to hear that Chicago is importing 20,000 Japanese families to city to make Tanaka feel welcome. That Theo–always thinking outside the box!

  139. Deal With It January 18th, 2014 at 4:23 pm

    Revenge of Stoneburner January 18th, 2014 at 4:13 pm

    Old news here …….. just sayin. Thanks tho

  140. macintosh January 18th, 2014 at 4:28 pm

    so ted nelson

    what was the baseball experience you say you have?

    there’s a saying on the field that is summed up by “shut up and play”.

    and you talk a lot .

  141. Deal With It January 18th, 2014 at 4:29 pm

    Chicken:

    Mark McGwire ? ?

    LMAO !

    Dip sh*t ! !

  142. Poetkiosk January 18th, 2014 at 4:29 pm

    “You seem to have read a lot into things I said and missed a lot of what I actually did say.”

    It’s called language. You write something people interpret it. That’s the way it goes. If you have the same problem with pretty much everyone who reads your stuff – and it seems like you do, maybe the problem isn’t with us. It’s kind of ironic that your posts are 4 times longer than everyone else’s but you continue to lament no one understands you. (oh also that no one answers your questions).

    We understand you bud, we just aren’t buying what you’re selling.

    Your evaluation of our starting pitching is wildly optimistic to think that the current FA’s out there aren’t a huge upgrade from Nove/Pineda/Phels/Warren. Now you may want to play linguistic footsie about who, where, when and why, but my evaluation of your evaluation stands.

  143. tomingeorgia January 18th, 2014 at 4:32 pm

    I taught English for a little while. My axiom was, “take an hour to write it, two to edit it.”

  144. Doreen January 18th, 2014 at 4:35 pm

    Chicken Stanley,

    I saw that the other night. At least curt schilling was a “ballpark” answer.

  145. macintosh January 18th, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    , “take an hour to write it, two to edit it.”

    kind of like, “measure twice, cut once”.

    makes sense to me.

  146. tomingeorgia January 18th, 2014 at 4:42 pm

    macrandy,
    My other adage was, “If I’d had the time, it would have been much shorter.”

  147. macintosh January 18th, 2014 at 4:42 pm

    ted,

    really smart guys like jerkface don’t take the bait.

    they simply say experience doesn’t matter.

    not much to do with that.

    but you take the bait.

    now tell us what you did in the game?

    where did you see this 95 mph pitch to hit?
    sitting in the seats behind home plate doesn’t count.

    and as an aside, are you rooting for or against tanaka signing with the yankees?

  148. RhapsodyInBlue January 18th, 2014 at 4:47 pm

    Watch it Ted he’s a bad apple.

  149. oak2455 January 18th, 2014 at 4:54 pm

    I don’t like bad apples ……blahhhhhh

  150. chicken_stanley January 18th, 2014 at 4:54 pm

    Doreen – Schilling is probably the only answer that could have been given (other than Clemens) that makes sense. Big Mac and Rose? :)

    Probably should give them a pass, though… not everyone is a fan

  151. bardos January 18th, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    Why are several posters beating up on this Ted Nelson person? Can’t you just ignore his posts? Calling him “an asshole” is not the style of conversation we would want for this forum, is it? Kind of rude….

  152. oak2455 January 18th, 2014 at 4:58 pm

    who the hell is Ted? Tanaka’s friend ?

  153. chicken_stanley January 18th, 2014 at 4:59 pm

    I taught English for a little while

    —————————–

    So, fess up; Does the way we all mangle the language and neglect/misuse/make up our own punctuation make you cringe? :)

  154. Tar January 18th, 2014 at 5:00 pm

    “Calling him “an asshole” is not the style of conversation we would want for this forum, is it? Kind of rude….”.

    “Try reading my comments instead of assuming I’m an asshole who you will always disagree with.”

    What if he calls himself an asshole, does that change things?

  155. blake January 18th, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    “Why do assume they can’t pay him? They’re a $90 million payroll team without many long-term commitments at all.l

    Well technically they could….but I don’t think it’s wise to contribute 15+% of their payroll to a closer…..and beyond this season they probably will have to do just that.

  156. oak2455 January 18th, 2014 at 5:03 pm

    If the Yanks miss on Tanaka , wonder which way they turn

  157. macintosh January 18th, 2014 at 5:05 pm

    actually, i’m giving ted a chance to clarify his positions.

    it’s obvious that he’s kind of verbose .

    i honestly haven’t made it through a single post of his.

    i have no idea what he thinks about anything baseball related.

    now mick say, he’s quick.
    plain english.
    he’s wrong usually , but it’s good writing in the spirit of tomingeorgia.

    ted?
    seems to takes forever to not say anything.
    at least that’s my opinion.
    which is open to change if the facts change.

    for all i know ted is a baseball savant.
    as soon as i get rosetta stone for ted, i’ll let you know.

  158. tomingeorgia January 18th, 2014 at 5:05 pm

    chicken,
    Have you seen me correct anyone? This ain’t a grammar and usage blog, although, occasionally mentally I say, “What the hell was that post about?”

  159. Ys Guy January 18th, 2014 at 5:06 pm

    here’s the hockey layout on the infield at NYS:

    http://blog.tickpick.com/wp-co.....config.jpg

  160. mick January 18th, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXRBELZpKak

  161. chicken_stanley January 18th, 2014 at 5:10 pm

    Tom – nope, never seen you correct anyone – wasn’t meant as a jab. It just struck me as funny how we (by “we” I mean “me”) butcher the language on here :)

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    now mick say, he’s quick.
    plain english.
    he’s wrong usually , but it’s good writing in the spirit of tomingeorgia.
    =========================
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    what in hell are you talking about?

  164. tomingeorgia January 18th, 2014 at 5:13 pm

    chicken,
    blake’s autocorrect is the champion.

  165. RhapsodyInBlue January 18th, 2014 at 5:14 pm

    A thinking man’s apple.

  166. chicken_stanley January 18th, 2014 at 5:17 pm

    Think I’m gonna take a break to watch “Reacher” on netflix… I love the books but don’t know what to expect from the movie. In the books, the main character is 6’5, 250, and blond… So, who do they pick to play him in the movie? Tom Cruise! WTH?

    Catch you all later

  167. tomingeorgia January 18th, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    Watching golf from Palm Springs. 38 degrees here in balmy Georgia. Come on, Spring!

  168. tomingeorgia January 18th, 2014 at 5:19 pm

    chicken,
    Should have picked Dan Blocker, RIP.

  169. Ys Guy January 18th, 2014 at 5:20 pm

    almost time to start working on my draft lists.

    i drafted very well last year (thanks paul goldschmidt, matt harvey and, oh yeah, chris davis!)

  170. RhapsodyInBlue January 18th, 2014 at 5:20 pm

    Chicken like Meryl Streep playing the beautiful dark hispanic Francesa in “The Bridges of Madison County”.

  171. Ys Guy January 18th, 2014 at 5:21 pm

    it’s 36 in new jersey tom, and you thought you were getting away from the cold…. :)

  172. chicken_stanley January 18th, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    Tom – Bonanza after “Hoss” just wasn’t the same

  173. mick January 18th, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    A thinking man’s apple.
    ===============
    More like this guy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIxHb7cA6tg

  174. blake January 18th, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    My autocorrect has a mind of it’s on….it just posts for me sometimes

  175. RhapsodyInBlue January 18th, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    Long way to go for 2 degrees Tom :)

  176. Ted Nelson January 18th, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    “Well technically they could….but I don’t think it’s wise to contribute 15+% of their payroll to a closer…..and beyond this season they probably will have to do just that.”

    This is his first run through arb. I haven’t really thought about it, but I would be surprised if he makes over $13.5mm his second run through arb. He’s projected for ~$7 mill this time through, not sure he’ll double that the second time though I don’t really know. They could also extend him and might get a little discount in aav for the security of a long-term commitment.

    I have no idea what the Braves will do here, but I’m just surprised by your conviction that they’ll have to move him and that they might not see him as more than just a regular closer.

  177. mick January 18th, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    Make it Rain….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enJJeOqHbqE

  178. chicken_stanley January 18th, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    My autocorrect has a mind of it’s on….it just posts for me sometimes

    ——————

    on the occasions that you and I agree on a player or a strategy, I may be actually talking to your autocorrect? :)

  179. Ys Guy January 18th, 2014 at 5:29 pm

    yeah, tom, you stopped the car to early tom, it’s 64 in miami!

  180. BoJo January 18th, 2014 at 5:29 pm

    RhapsodyInBlue January 18th, 2014 at 5:20 pm
    Chicken like Meryl Streep playing the beautiful dark hispanic Francesa in “The Bridges of Madison County”.

    Wasn’t Tom Cruise also the first choice there too?

  181. mick January 18th, 2014 at 5:29 pm

    Good Things

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOXE9k1TX-s

  182. macintosh January 18th, 2014 at 5:29 pm

    “Your logic is so flawed that I don’t even know what to say to you.”

    these are ted’s parting words to me over an hour ago.

    i knew i could leave him speechless :)

  183. blake January 18th, 2014 at 5:30 pm

    Well I shouldn’t say they for sure will move him….but most I’ve talked to seem to believe they won’t want to pay him by his 3rd or 4th arb year. It’s a tough situation for them because they are unlikely to get the return on him as you would for the premier player at another position……he’s asking for 9 million this year in arbitration and the team is at 5…..if he wanted to take it to the hearing I bet he would win

  184. Ys Guy January 18th, 2014 at 5:31 pm

    last year when we did my first draft we were staying at a B&B in Cape May and the internet sucked and cut out when i was making my first round pick and somehow while i was offline, the computer made my first round pick (i think it was 4th or 5th overall) for me and picked gio gozalez!

    and i won the league anyway!

  185. chicken_stanley January 18th, 2014 at 5:32 pm

    Bojo – I hate to encourage you but I have to admit you make me laugh

  186. RhapsodyInBlue January 18th, 2014 at 5:32 pm

    Why McIntosh?

    Why not Granny Smith or Fuji?

  187. mick January 18th, 2014 at 5:32 pm

    it’s good writing in the spirit of tomingeorgia.
    =========================
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    did sir randy mean this as a compliment?

  188. Ted Nelson January 18th, 2014 at 5:37 pm

    “It’s called language. You write something people interpret it. That’s the way it goes.”

    Listen, I was trying to be as nice as possible but you read things into my comments that directly contradicted the things I actually wrote. This was a you issue. I don’t have problems with intelligent people not understanding what I’m saying, so I’m not sure why you think I lament it often.

    “Now you may want to play linguistic footsie about who, where, when and why, but my evaluation of your evaluation stands.”

    You’re entitled to your opinion, but as I’ve explained you seem to be overrating some of the other guys and underrating the Yankees internal options. Somehow you seem to be looking at very volatile options outside the org and assuming things will go well, but looking at internal variability and assuming things will go poorly. In just 2012 Ubaldo and Ervin were upgrades over literally no SP in baseball. Garza put up -0.1 bWAR the second half of 2013 which made it his second straight season as a mid-rotation SP at best. I’m not saying that will definitely happen again going forward, but you seem to be ignoring the distinct possibility that it will.

    I also never said they aren’t upgrades, I said that the upgrades may be too marginal to be worth paying tens of millions of dollars for on long-term deals. If the internal options are as bad as you think they are, the Yankees would still have the money to go out and upgrade in-season or next off-season.

  189. BoJo January 18th, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    chicken_stanley January 18th, 2014 at 5:32 pm
    Bojo – I hate to encourage you but I have to admit you make me laugh

    I don’t need any encouragement…but am glad you and a few others enjoy it.

  190. mick January 18th, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    didn’t know this was tom cruise till the final credits

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srH94OR1TbU

  191. tomingeorgia January 18th, 2014 at 5:45 pm

    It’s going to be 70 soon, but not this coming week. The stupid forsythia is all budded out. And the lake isn’t frozen, and the daffodils are sprouting, and the camelias are blooming, with no snow or ice in the forecast. I’ll take it.

  192. RhapsodyInBlue January 18th, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    I won’t see my forsythias until late April Tom.

    Rule of thumb is when they bloom dry fly season is here.

    I can’t wait.

  193. MTU January 18th, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    “If the Yanks miss on Tanaka , wonder which way they turn”

    Upside down.

    :(

  194. chicken_stanley January 18th, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    Pat M mentioned this morning that Don Baylor was in his foursome. I was just on baseball reference fooling around and looked at Baylor’s stats. Don’t know if this will surprise you but it floored me:

    285 career stolen bases
    52 steals in 1976 with Oakland
    He even stole 17 in 1983 with the Yankees!

    I certainly didn’t remember him being fleet afoot!

  195. RhapsodyInBlue January 18th, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    Tanaka watch continues.

  196. MTU January 18th, 2014 at 5:52 pm

    Some of you people are funnier than sh*t.

    Lot’s of chuckles reading your comments.

    Tar, Bojo, Poetkiosk, and Fuji apple get special mention.

    :)

  197. MTU January 18th, 2014 at 5:53 pm

    Chicken Stanley ginseng, double-talk alert ————–>

  198. mick January 18th, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    Anybody here see tropic Thunder?

  199. GregD January 18th, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    any word on Tanaka???

  200. Ys Guy January 18th, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    baylor’s nickname listed in BR is ‘sneak thief’

    man, he was good! i was a big fan of his.

    he apparently didnt care for his time with the yankees, though.

  201. Ys Guy January 18th, 2014 at 6:00 pm

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    …the reciept for the shaving cream he bought on his credit card.

    —–>

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