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Steinbrenner: Can’t question the Yankees commitment to winning now

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 22, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

In the wake of the Masahiro Tanaka signing, The Associated Press spoke to Hank Steinbrenner. Here’s the story with comments from the Yankees co-chairman.

Masahiro TanakaNEW YORK (AP) — The New York Yankees and prized Japanese pitcher Masahiro Tanaka agreed Wednesday to a $155 million, seven-year contract.

In addition to the deal with the 25-year-old right-hander, the Yankees must pay a $20 million fee to his Japanese team, the Rakuten Golden Eagles.

After missing the playoffs for just the second time in 19 years, the Yankees went on a free-agent spending spree this offseason, also adding catcher Brian McCann and outfielders Jacoby Ellsbury and Carlos Beltran. The four big deals totaled $438 million.

“We’re going to do what we’ve got to do to win,” Yankees co-chairman Hank Steinbrenner told The Associated Press in a telephone interview. “Anybody that questioned our commitment to winning is going to have to question themselves.”

Big league teams had until Friday to reach an agreement with Tanaka, who was 24-0 with a 1.27 ERA last year as the Golden Eagles won the Japan Series title.

His agreement, first reported by Fox, calls for $22 million in each of the first six seasons and $23 million in 2020, and it allows the pitcher to terminate the deal after the 2017 season and become a free agent.

Tanaka receives the highest contract for an international free agent and the fifth-largest deal for a pitcher, trailing only the seven-years deals of the Los Angeles Dodgers’ Clayton Kershaw ($215 million), Detroit’s Justin Verlander ($180 million), Seattle’s Felix Hernandez ($175 million) and CC Sabathia ($161 million under his original agreement with New York).

Tanaka replaces the retired Andy Pettitte in the rotation, joining Sabathia, Hiroki Kuroda and Ivan Nova. David Phelps, Adam Warren, Michael Pineda and Vidal Nuno are in the mix for the No. 5 slot.

“We had to make sure we had enough pitching to go together with our new lineup,” Steinbrenner said.

New York had great success in the Japanese market when it signed outfielder Hideki Matsui, a star from 2003-09 who was the World Series MVP in his final season in pinstripes. But the Yankees had failures with Hideki Irabu and Kei Igawa, pitchers who failed to file up to their potential.

Tanaka’s deal pushes the Yankees’ payroll for purposes of the luxury tax over $203 million for 20 players with agreements. Barring trades, there is little chance New York will get under the $189 million tax threshold.

Yankees managing general partner Hal Steinbrenner had been saying for two years that getting below the tax threshold in 2014 was a goal but wouldn’t get in the way of fielding a contending team. In addition to losing tens of millions of dollars in revenue sharing annually, the Yankees have paid $252.7 million in luxury tax over the last 11 years.

“There has been criticism of myself and my brother the last couple years that, gee, if our dad was still in charge, we’d be spending this and spending that and doing whatever it takes to win,” Hank Steinbrenner said, referring to late Yankees owner George Steinbrenner.

“He didn’t have revenue sharing, at least for most of his time,” Hank Steinbrenner added. “That’s what these people in the sports media don’t seem to get. If it wasn’t for revenue sharing, we’d have a payroll of $300 million a year if we wanted to. So we’re doing this despite having to pay all that revenue sharing.”

Tanaka was the first player available under the new agreement between Major League Baseball and Nippon Professional Baseball, which caps posting fees at $20 million and allows multiple big league teams to negotiate. Under the previous system, in place from December 1998 through last offseason, there was no limit on the bid for negotiating rights and only the team with the top bid could try to sign the player.

Under that system, Boston obtained pitcher Daisuke Matsuzaka from the Seibu Lions before the 2007 season for $51,111,111.11 and agreed to a $52 million, six-year contract. Texas got pitcher Yu Darvish from the Hokkaido Nippon Ham Fighters before the 2012 season for $51,703,411 and gave him a $56 million, six-year deal.

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270 Responses to “Steinbrenner: Can’t question the Yankees commitment to winning now”

  1. mick January 22nd, 2014 at 11:41 am

    “Anybody that questioned our commitment to winning is going to have to question themselves,” Hank Steinbrenner to AP.

  2. Chip January 22nd, 2014 at 11:42 am

    Locke,

    It’s Jeter’s last year – he’s not moving to a new position. If he was 5 years younger then maybe it happens, but not now.

    Unless Stephen Drew falls in their laps, my guess is that they’re done outside of a few minor league signings. I still don’t believe Ichiro will accept the 4th OF role for which he seems destined, but given that he may have helped recruit Tanaka I’m not entirely sure they’ll move him before the season starts.

    My guess is:

    Ellsbury – CF
    Jeter – SS
    Beltran – RF
    Soriano – DH
    Tex – 1b
    McCann – C
    Johnson – 3b
    Roberts – 2b
    Gardner – LF

    Bench: Cervelli, Sizemore, Ryan and Ichiro

    Rotation:
    CC, Kuroda, Tanaka, Nova, Pineda

    Pen
    LHP: Thornton and Cabral
    RHP: Kelley, D-Rob, Phelps, Betances, Claiborne

    And I think Phelps will emerge as a bulldog late in games. Sort of Aceves minus the crazy.

  3. Shame Spencer January 22nd, 2014 at 11:44 am

    Lol, I kinda love that the Yankees are framing it like they had a plan to spend half a billion dollars all along…. suuuuuuure.

  4. Captain Clutch January 22nd, 2014 at 11:44 am

    @Buster_ESPN

    Not surprisingly, Yankees’ internal expectation is that they are essentially finished adding this winter: No more pricey free agents.

  5. bigdan22 January 22nd, 2014 at 11:44 am

    Re-Post:

    At the very beginning of the offseason, I said there were three key indicators that we should all look for to see if the Yanks are really serious about competing. These were threshold issues that would show us not just how the organization was being run, but was also a real test of their resolve. Those three indicators were:

    –Sign Tanaka

    –Just say no to Cano, and

    –Move Jeter to 3rd

    Sorry Blake, but as Meatloaf once said, two out of three ain’t bad.

  6. oak2455 January 22nd, 2014 at 11:45 am

    “We’re going to do what we’ve got to do to win,” Yankees co-chairman Hank Steinbrenner told The Associated Press in a telephone interview. “Anybody that questioned our commitment to winning is going to have to question themselves.”

    “We had to make sure we had enough pitching to go together with our new lineup,” Steinbrenner said.

    “There has been criticism of myself and my brother the last couple years that, gee, if our dad was still in charge, we’d be spending this and spending that and doing whatever it takes to win,” Hank Steinbrenner said, referring to late Yankees owner George Steinbrenner.

    “He didn’t have revenue sharing, at least for most of his time,” Hank Steinbrenner added. “That’s what these people in the sports media don’t seem to get. If it wasn’t for revenue sharing, we’d have a payroll of $300 million a year if we wanted to. So we’re doing this despite having to pay all that revenue sharing.”

    Hank is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  7. Howler January 22nd, 2014 at 11:45 am

    Phelps needs to get over his first batter/inning problems if he’ll become an effective reliever. I do think the Yankees will do more, and I’m expecting trading some pitching is going to be part of it. Something usually happens during spring.

  8. Bret The Hitman January 22nd, 2014 at 11:45 am

    Yeah because billionaires and millionaires typically make spontaneous snap judgments to spend half a billion dollars. It’s never planned nor calculated. With that kind of impulsive behavior, it’s a wonder how they got so rich.

  9. Captain Clutch January 22nd, 2014 at 11:46 am

    So what game is Massy starting next year?

  10. Shame Spencer January 22nd, 2014 at 11:46 am

    Captain Clutch January 22nd, 2014 at 11:44 am

    @Buster_ESPN

    Not surprisingly, Yankees’ internal expectation is that they are essentially finished adding this winter: No more pricey free agents.

    ———–

    blake just died a little inside.

  11. Bret The Hitman January 22nd, 2014 at 11:47 am

    Captain Clutch January 22nd, 2014 at 11:44 am

    @Buster_ESPN

    Not surprisingly, Yankees’ internal expectation is that they are essentially finished adding this winter: No more pricey free agents.

    __________

    Sounds like no Jimenez. So Pineda getting a real shot out of ST.

  12. bigdan22 January 22nd, 2014 at 11:47 am

    Captain Clutch January 22nd, 2014 at 11:44 am
    @Buster_ESPN

    Not surprisingly, Yankees’ internal expectation is that they are essentially finished adding this winter: No more pricey free agents.

    ——-

    This really isn’t hard. We just need to believe what they tell us publically. They’ve been accurate with their quoted comments all off season. Even with respect to Cano. It’s the unnamed sources that have confused us.

  13. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 11:47 am

    Depends on what you mean by “pricey”

    ;)

  14. Patrick January 22nd, 2014 at 11:47 am

    And if both Pineda and Banuelos really show something, you can let go of Kuroda next year and trade Nova for a SS.

    Nova doesn’t get you a legit SS unless he has a really good 2014. If he has a really good 2014 he’s a young, top-end starting pitcher. In other words, not a guy you want to trade.

    Just sign Hanley after this season.

  15. Mordot11 January 22nd, 2014 at 11:48 am

    Nice to see Hal put his money where his mouth is. Let’s go Yanks.

  16. Bret The Hitman January 22nd, 2014 at 11:48 am

    Unless they can acquire Homer Bailey.

  17. Your Name Here January 22nd, 2014 at 11:48 am

    If he opts out…. it us essentially 4 years 108M with a 3 year player option of 67M.

  18. mick January 22nd, 2014 at 11:48 am

    Hank is back.
    Arod is out.
    Tanaka is in.
    Coincidence?

  19. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 11:48 am

    All you folks really need to know for now and the future is that the Yankees are back.

    ;)

  20. Bret The Hitman January 22nd, 2014 at 11:49 am

    I’m all for Hanley Ramirez.

  21. yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 11:50 am

    yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 11:47 am
    “At the very beginning of the offseason, I said there were three key indicators that we should all look for to see if the Yanks are really serious about competing.”

    For the Yanks it is not only about seriously competing, it is about pumping up the brand after taking multiple hits. They had no choice with Tanaka; he is their current redemption ticket. The Stadium will again draw the Japanese crowd and have a buzz about it. You should have seen the crowd at the Matsui retirement game on 7/28. Nothing like it except at the Mo games.

    yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 11:49 am
    Hank gets pumped and goes unmuzzled when the Steinbrenner Bros spend greenbacks. It is like an addiction. Go, Hank!

  22. Howler January 22nd, 2014 at 11:50 am

    I don’t think Hanley is going anywhere, unless he really starts upsetting people in L.A.

  23. Chip January 22nd, 2014 at 11:50 am

    The only guy left I go after is Alamedys Diaz…he can open in Scranton and be ready to step in next season at SS full time.

  24. yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 11:51 am

    Hanley will get extended,; just as Kershaw did.

  25. Captain Clutch January 22nd, 2014 at 11:52 am

    I think if Drew’s price really falls the Yanks would consider him. I can’t see him getting a big contract this late in the off season. Now that they are definitely over $189m they better get a reliever.

  26. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 11:52 am

    After watching the type of Team the Yankees have just put together everyone is going to be tripping over themselves wanting to play here again.

    ;)

  27. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 11:53 am

    Clutch-

    I’m all over that.

    I expect it.

    And probably Baker too if he is reasonable.

    ;)

  28. exiledintampa January 22nd, 2014 at 11:54 am

    Anybody seen Luis lately? Kind of worried for him.

  29. yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 11:55 am

    Diaz might not even stick at SS. What about Erisbel Arruebarruena? Anyone watch him play in WBC? I know that the latter is supposed to have great range (Iglesias comps?), but sometimes he gets a little too aggressive, and his bat played in WBC, but no one’s convinced it will in MLB.

  30. oak2455 January 22nd, 2014 at 11:55 am

    here is Tanaka

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....e=youtu.be

    Mr. Splitty says Say?nara !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  31. bigdan22 January 22nd, 2014 at 11:55 am

    yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 11:50 am
    yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 11:47 am
    “At the very beginning of the offseason, I said there were three key indicators that we should all look for to see if the Yanks are really serious about competing.”

    “For the Yanks it is not only about seriously competing, it is about pumping up the brand after taking multiple hits. They had no choice with Tanaka; he is their current redemption ticket. The Stadium will again draw the Japanese crowd and have a buzz about it. You should have seen the crowd at the Matsui retirement game on 7/28. Nothing like it except at the Mo games.”

    ———–

    No question this is the shot of adrenaline that this franchise needed. Notwithstanding the added position players, this is the guy who will create the buzz that a New York franchise requires and the fans demand. The father always talked about “putting fannies in the seats.” This is potentially the biggest acquisition in that respect since Reggie.

  32. yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 11:56 am

    Luis just got home from NYC lat week, so is catching up on work back in Caracas. He said he has been very busy as a result.

  33. Captain Clutch January 22nd, 2014 at 11:56 am

    @TylerKepner

    Cool part of Yanks’ Tanaka effort: Hideki Matsui made recruiting call on their behalf. Yankee people real similarity in their personalities.

  34. yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 11:57 am

    *last week

  35. yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 11:57 am

    I knew Mats was an influence. Now Tanaka can get all his meals delivered from Soba Nippon like Mats did. Win-win!

  36. pkyankfan69 January 22nd, 2014 at 11:57 am

    On a much smaller note

    FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal reports that the Athletics have reached a two-year, $7 million deal with reliever Eric O’Flaherty.
    O’Flaherty is recovering from Tommy John surgery and might not be ready to return until around midseason. It’s a bit of a surprise to see him take a two-year deal, but the A’s were willing to pay a premium on the chance that he’ll return to form as one of the best left-handed relievers in the game. O’Flaherty, who turns 29 next month, has a 1.99 ERA dating back to 2009

  37. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 11:59 am

    God bless Matsui.

    :)

  38. Ted Nelson January 22nd, 2014 at 11:59 am

    “Ideally I’d have them both and trade Ichiro…..Baker is a specialist…..he mashes LHP and that’s why I want him because currently the lineup is pretty dependent on Tex and Jeter vs LHP……if those 2 guys bounce back to what they used to do vs LHP then they’ll be ok…..if they don’t then they could struggle vs lefties and Baker could mitigate that some.”

    I understand the value that Baker brings. LHPs are only like 1/3 of Ps, though. He is totally unusable against the other 2/3 of all Ps. His “big” 2013 was worth 0.4 fWAR and the first time he’s had an overall wRC+ above 85 in three years. Not a great depth piece, as you’re going to want to PH for him in close games against most RPs. And to compound things, the Yankees IF health is uncertain already before adding Drew: between Roberts, Drew, and Jeter you might be looking at a better chance two of them get hurt by midseason than one. To make the team a little better against LHP, I think you are making it worse overall. Especially because KJ hits LHP well enough on his career and in 2013.

  39. yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 12:00 pm

    bigdan, Matsui should throw out the first pitch before Tanaka’s first start at NYS. Perfect.

  40. exiledintampa January 22nd, 2014 at 12:00 pm

    Thanks Fem.

  41. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 12:00 pm

    YT will be disappointed on O’Flaherty.

    :(

  42. J. Alfred Prufrock January 22nd, 2014 at 12:00 pm

    The season just got more interesting, that’s for sure.

    But lol at Hank.

    Commitment to winning means Cano is still in pinstripes.

    Then the other moves (minus Ellsbury) would have meant genuine interest in being great again.

    3 pitchers with high GB rates and no Cano at 2B.

    Half-full is Half-as*ed.

  43. bigdan22 January 22nd, 2014 at 12:00 pm

    MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 11:52 am
    After watching the type of Team the Yankees have just put together everyone is going to be tripping over themselves wanting to play here again.

    ——-

    Not the way I look at it. Nor should it be the way the owners do either. This was a bit of a detour. A necessary move because the player development route failed. Ultimately, this is not an efficient way to go but they probably bought themselves two or three years of fan and media interest.

    Now it’s time to work on player development. They are effectively adding four first rounders to the system this coming year. They will probably spend around $30MM (with penalties) on IFAs in the summer. Something’s gotta hit here. Those guys getting these resources need to be held accountable.

  44. Bret The Hitman January 22nd, 2014 at 12:00 pm

    There goes O’Flaherty.

  45. Shame Spencer January 22nd, 2014 at 12:00 pm

    Surprise team in on Tanaka?

    The Houston Astros, apparently.

  46. yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 12:01 pm

    exiled, you’re welcome. I am sure luis will show up momentarily.

  47. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 12:01 pm

    “blake just died a little inside.”

    Buster is the worst though so there is still hope.

  48. bigdan22 January 22nd, 2014 at 12:01 pm

    yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 12:00 pm
    bigdan, Matsui should throw out the first pitch before Tanaka’s first start at NYS. Perfect.

    ——–

    He should be the bench coach!

  49. Howler January 22nd, 2014 at 12:02 pm

    Trade for Tulo in 15…he can come in for his idol, part of the deal in Tex goes to Colorado, Jeter continues to play, but moves to 1st…they can have Nunez, one of the young catchers, and a pitching prospect.

  50. Ted Nelson January 22nd, 2014 at 12:02 pm

    “It’s the unnamed sources that have confused us.”

    Ironic that you’re referring to a comment from an unnamed source.

  51. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 12:02 pm

    Jeff Passan ?@JeffPassan 2m
    Yankees and Masahiro Tanaka went back and forth numerous times before settling on 7/155 with opt-out. Other teams were in. Yanks blew away.

  52. yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 12:02 pm

    Shame, Astros were talked about RE: Tanaka. Maybe they were trying to sell themselves as the up and coming team. FTR, I will take their farm off their hands.

  53. J. Alfred Prufrock January 22nd, 2014 at 12:03 pm

    yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 11:56 am

    Luis just got home from NYC lat week, so is catching up on work back in Caracas. He said he has been very busy as a result.
    ///

    Yes, and I’m sure primo will check in due to the good news.
    ///

    exiled, how are you feeling these days?

  54. exiledintampa January 22nd, 2014 at 12:03 pm

    He probably couldda got the same money elsewhere. He chose the biggest stage. My kinda pitcher.

  55. Shame Spencer January 22nd, 2014 at 12:04 pm

    Now it’s time to work on player development. They are effectively adding four first rounders to the system this coming year. They will probably spend around $30MM (with penalties) on IFAs in the summer. Something’s gotta hit here. Those guys getting these resources need to be held accountable.

    ————-

    Yeah, they’ve basically remade the core for the next 4 years minimum. By the time that 4th year is up, you want to see young talent being productive for the club on both sides of the ball. If they’re not there at that point, they’ll be spending big again.

    I still think the best deal we signed this off season is McCann.

  56. Captain Clutch January 22nd, 2014 at 12:04 pm

    @therealarieber

    Source on Tanaka: “I think it came down to him just wanting to be a Yankee.”

  57. yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 12:04 pm

    bigdan, the hitting coach!

  58. Shame Spencer January 22nd, 2014 at 12:05 pm

    blake January 22nd, 2014 at 12:02 pm

    Jeff Passan ?@JeffPassan 2m
    Yankees and Masahiro Tanaka went back and forth numerous times before settling on 7/155 with opt-out. Other teams were in. Yanks blew away.

    —————

    He just wanted the honor of wearing the pinstripes!! It had nothing to do with the money because he’s Japanese!!!!!!

  59. oak2455 January 22nd, 2014 at 12:05 pm

    Hot Stove is saying the Cubs final offer was 150

  60. Hankflorida January 22nd, 2014 at 12:05 pm

    Since Hank Steinbrenner and I share both our first names and the vicinity of our homes, I can honestly admit that he has always been my type of owner like his father, and am sorry that I deemed his brother the name of Prince Hal the Frugal. I will never use that term again as we are back to the Yankee tradition that started with Jacob Ruppert and Babe Ruth.

  61. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 12:05 pm

    Dan-

    The Farm is a parallel track. And so are trades. I’d expect a breakout this year.

    Money will always be the Yankees primary weapon though.

    Definitely need to improve. Not sure they will ever be all that good at it though.

    No pun intended, much more hit and miss.

    ;)

  62. Shame Spencer January 22nd, 2014 at 12:06 pm

    Captain Clutch January 22nd, 2014 at 12:04 pm

    @therealarieber

    Source on Tanaka: “I think it came down to him just wanting to be a Yankee.”

    ————————-

    You can’t stop a narrative. It’s like the bus from Speed.

  63. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 12:06 pm

    “To make the team a little better against LHP, I think you are making it worse overall. Especially because KJ hits LHP well enough on his career and in 2013.”

    career vs LHP:

    Baker: .875 OPS
    Johnson: .686.

    There is a difference between holding your own and being really good…..but having said that….Baker is a luxury item. I’ld like to have him….but he’s not going to make or break the season.

  64. Shame Spencer January 22nd, 2014 at 12:06 pm

    If this narrative drops below 55 mph the whole internet will explode!!

  65. bigdan22 January 22nd, 2014 at 12:07 pm

    Captain Clutch January 22nd, 2014 at 12:04 pm
    @therealarieber

    Source on Tanaka: “I think it came down to him just wanting to be a Yankee.”

    ———

    I love when they say that. Even when I don’t believe it. It’s like telling someone it looks like they lost weight.

  66. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 12:07 pm

    I think it came down to the $$$ like always.

  67. vrsce January 22nd, 2014 at 12:07 pm

    This is shaping up to be a very exciting season. Thank you Yankees.

  68. yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 12:07 pm

    Now it’s time to work on player development. They are effectively adding four first rounders to the system this coming year. They will probably spend around $30MM (with penalties) on IFAs in the summer. Something’s gotta hit here. Those guys getting these resources need to be held accountable.
    ____
    July 2nd showcase is going on in the DR today.

  69. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 12:08 pm

    Nope. Money had nothing to do with.

    That’s why the Yankees got for so much less than anyone else.

    Not.

    I’m sure he wanted to be a Yankee but we also paid him the most.

    Money is always a prime motivator.

    ;)

  70. Bret The Hitman January 22nd, 2014 at 12:08 pm

    oak2455 January 22nd, 2014 at 12:05 pm

    Hot Stove is saying the Cubs final offer was 150

    _______

    The Cubs are hot for a starting pitcher! Sign Jimenez. Trade Nova+ for Castro.

  71. exiledintampa January 22nd, 2014 at 12:08 pm

    Pruf, Not too bad. thanks for asking. Health problems still. But, I haven’t missed work in two years. Good thing it’s just four days a week. M,Tu, off today, Th,Fr.

    Today was a great day to be off and sitting in front of my screen reading lohud since 8am. Around 9 it was like christmas.

    I will always think the “what could have been” with Cano but I’m over it.

  72. bigdan22 January 22nd, 2014 at 12:09 pm

    oak2455 January 22nd, 2014 at 12:05 pm
    Hot Stove is saying the Cubs final offer was 150

    ——-

    I was wrong. I guess they are still Second City.

  73. yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 12:09 pm

    MTU, bigdan, wonder if we will see Hensley and Clarkin in Charleston. Hensley is right on course, so I would think no EST.

  74. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 12:10 pm

    Garza’s health seems to be what’s scaring everyone off him…..if the deal he wants isn’t out there now and he’d consider a 1 year deal to re-establish his value then I’d certainly have interest in that.

  75. bigdan22 January 22nd, 2014 at 12:11 pm

    yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 12:07 pm
    Now it’s time to work on player development. They are effectively adding four first rounders to the system this coming year. They will probably spend around $30MM (with penalties) on IFAs in the summer. Something’s gotta hit here. Those guys getting these resources need to be held accountable.
    ____
    July 2nd showcase is going on in the DR today.

    ——–

    Are you attending? Love a report lol!

  76. Howler January 22nd, 2014 at 12:11 pm

    still don’t see all the love for a guy who has basically sucked for most of his career.

  77. pkyankfan69 January 22nd, 2014 at 12:11 pm

    For whatever it’s worth… Schilling just said he heard the next offer to Tanaka was only around $110M… Like usual, he’s probably just blowing smoke from his ass.

  78. Shame Spencer January 22nd, 2014 at 12:11 pm

    I will always think the “what could have been” with Cano but I’m over it.

    ————-

    Yeah me too.. adding his salary gets them to the payroll they were at last year basically.. and the team would have been disgustingly good. But there is a lot to be excited about with our new catcher, Tanaka, and Beltran’s bat. I still think the Ellsbury contract is ugly as sin but I do like his skill set so I hope he’s able to stay on the field.

  79. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 12:11 pm

    NewYear’s Dave Brown ?@AnswerDave 6m
    Yankees should put up “$189 million” plaque in Monument Park

    yes….and all the pitchers start a tradition of taking a leak on it before they come in the game.

  80. oak2455 January 22nd, 2014 at 12:13 pm

    perfect storm no work( working from home ;) ) and TANAKA!!!!!!!!!

    BOOM= I’m happy!!!!!!

  81. yanks61 January 22nd, 2014 at 12:13 pm

    Joe P at RAB is one of those who believes there could be more moves coming:

    “The Yankees have now spent $474 million this off-season, and they might not be done. Now that they’re over the luxury cap, they can continue flexing their muscles by spending money to fill the current roster holes. The next few weeks could get interesting.”

  82. yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 12:14 pm

    July 2nd showcase is going on in the DR today.

    ——–

    Are you attending? Love a report lol!
    ____
    bigdan, I wish. It is in the Dominican; I need an expense account! :( But there will be a lot of coverage; 100′s of scouts are there to watch all week long. I’ll post some links later.

  83. yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 12:15 pm

    Tanaka should wear the #189 on his jersey1 :lol:

  84. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 12:16 pm

    Ken Rosenthal ?@Ken_Rosenthal 3m
    About time the #Yankees reclaimed their identity. Column: http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....ees-012214

  85. Tackelberry January 22nd, 2014 at 12:16 pm

    Farm needs to have a bounceback year no doubt. Pitching wise, it’d be great if Pineda and Banuelos contributed this year, and then Ramirez and Bryan Mitchell sometime next year.

  86. J. Alfred Prufrock January 22nd, 2014 at 12:16 pm

    exiledintampa January 22nd, 2014 at 12:08 pm

    Pruf, Not too bad. thanks for asking. Health problems still. But, I haven’t missed work in two years. Good thing it’s just four days a week. M,Tu, off today, Th,Fr.

    Today was a great day to be off and sitting in front of my screen reading lohud since 8am. Around 9 it was like christmas.

    I will always think the “what could have been” with Cano but I’m over it.
    ///

    Glad to hear you’re gettin’ by.

    I’m excited they signed this guy; he’s young and though I haven’t watched much video of him, I’ll dig in now that he’s ours.

    With Cano gone, they really need to stick Anderson Feliz back at 2B in Tampa, assuming he recovered from hip surgery and is good to go. He won’t be Cano, nor make anyone forget Cano, but he is such a toolsy, flowing 2B in a similar mode, and would give us a uber talented switch hitter at the position.

    Losing Cano, though, remains indefensible to me, especially since they signed Ellsbury for that $153/7. Cano’s greatness, durability, his left-handedness, his ability to hit LHP, and the fact that they have no ready infield prospects.

    They really need to make a deal for a non-dumpster diving 2B option. Like I said, you need guys who can field behind the staff they’ve put together.

  87. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 12:16 pm

    Joel Sherman ?@Joelsherman1 6m
    Talked to Hal Steinbrenner and here is story http://nyp.st/19NSxMm in which he explains why #Yankees got Tanaka and blew past $189M

  88. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 12:17 pm

    Time for me and the Mops to go on our victory walk.

    later.

    :)

  89. Jeff in Canada January 22nd, 2014 at 12:17 pm

    In terms of years, 7 is the new 10.

  90. jpb173 January 22nd, 2014 at 12:17 pm

    Now that we have both Tanaka and Kuroda under contract can we please ask them to teach the rest of the organization how to throw a splitter?

    On a serious note, I’ve always felt that if Phil Hughes had added a good splitter to his repertoire he would have become hugely successful.

  91. Ted Nelson January 22nd, 2014 at 12:17 pm

    “career vs LHP:

    Baker: .875 OPS
    Johnson: .686.”

    No, Kelly Johnson is at .770 OPS against LHP on his career. http://www.baseball-reference......r&t=b

    “There is a difference between holding your own and being really good…”

    My comment was in the context of LHPs being 1/3 of Ps. Holding your own against 100% of Ps > being really good against 1/3 of Ps + being really bad against 2/3 of Ps.

    “but having said that….Baker is a luxury item. I’ld like to have him….but he’s not going to make or break the season.”

    I wouldn’t mind Baker in the right role, I just disagree about wanting him more than Kelly Johnson. To compete with or replace Sizemore, Nunez, Anna, etc. I would be fine with Baker.

  92. Jerkface January 22nd, 2014 at 12:18 pm

    My thoughts on this one:

    1. GOOD. I’m glad we got Tanaka and the Yankees put the 189 to bed. It would be extremely difficult for them to suddenly attempt to go back under it. They’d have to trade too much.
    2. Tanaka should be very good immediately for this team. Most of the Japanese pitchers who were elite came over and had success. Some of them did not have sustained success but Kuroda did and I think Darvish will and those are the 2 guys most similar to Tanaka (in terms of the domination of the NPB in Darvish and Kuroda’s repertoire).
    3. Them blowing up 189 this year sure makes the last 2 offseasons really stupid looking, huh?
    4. Wow with this cost why didn’t they just bid on Darvish? They could have bid 60 million on Darvish and had less of a total outlay and had a 6 year deal with 0 opt outs in it for 1/3rd of the cost of Tanaka’s contract.
    5. How dumb is Hank? George didn’t have to deal with revenue sharing? Since when?

    I’m glad the Yankees got Tanaka. He is a real reason to watch and pay attention to the club, and with him they are better positioned to make a run at the playoffs. Still need another infielder and probably 1 bullpen arm to finish the offseason though.

  93. bigdan22 January 22nd, 2014 at 12:18 pm

    yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 12:09 pm
    MTU, bigdan, wonder if we will see Hensley and Clarkin in Charleston. Hensley is right on course, so I would think no EST.

    ——–

    I’m rather surprised they talked about Jagielo and Judge in Tampa. That’s a tough league for hitters and Judge I don’t think even played last year. I think one or both of those guys are in Charleston. I also thought Katoh would skip Staten Island and go to Charleston but what do I know.

  94. oak2455 January 22nd, 2014 at 12:19 pm

    ok now I’m gonna hit the driveway!!!!! Let’s goooooooooooooooooooooooooo Yankees!!!

  95. J. Alfred Prufrock January 22nd, 2014 at 12:20 pm

    I still think the Ellsbury contract is ugly as sin but I do like his skill set so I hope he’s able to stay on the field.
    ///

    Cano + Gardner >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ellsbury.

    Inexplicably stupid.

  96. Jerkface January 22nd, 2014 at 12:21 pm

    http://t.co/0Ayl2xQMVP

    here is a picture drawn by an NPB fan which says omedetou ma-kun. Which means congratulations ma-kun (tanaka’s nickname).

  97. Jerkface January 22nd, 2014 at 12:21 pm

    This offseason would have been way better if we had signed Cano instead of Ellsbury.

  98. Howler January 22nd, 2014 at 12:22 pm

    Guess we’re going to be lamenting Cano all year, despite his ridiculous demands.

  99. J. Alfred Prufrock January 22nd, 2014 at 12:22 pm

    …and guys, far from being over it, this signing makes it even sillier that they didn’t sign him (because of a couple of back-end years, when all the other humongous deals would have been long off the books).

    They would have been awesome with McCann/Cano/Beltran/Tanaka added.

  100. yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 12:22 pm

    “Hal Steinbrenner decided winning games trumped saving money, and authorized his baseball people to forget the Yankees’ $189 million goal for the 2014 season and spend almost that much to land Masahiro Tanaka.”

    As per above Sherman article, how about Hal realized winning games would make him more money or keep him from losing money? That sounds more accurate to me.
    ___
    JF, agree about Cano vs. Ells. We overloaded in the OF and the IF is bereft.

  101. Ted Nelson January 22nd, 2014 at 12:22 pm

    “They really need to make a deal for a non-dumpster diving 2B option. Like I said, you need guys who can field behind the staff they’ve put together.”

    I don’t think their 2B defense is so much the issue right now.

  102. Shame Spencer January 22nd, 2014 at 12:23 pm

    Morningggggg JF!! ;)

  103. J. Alfred Prufrock January 22nd, 2014 at 12:24 pm

    Yeah, great players want to get paid.

    If you don’t want to pay, you don’t get to have great players.

    They had a chance to lock him up long-term and they whiffed.

    Unbelievable, that’s what it is.

  104. Jerkface January 22nd, 2014 at 12:25 pm

    Agreed. But not at 10 years.

    2B is such a dead position I think Cano could have contributed at it for 10 years. I mean, what could he be in 10 years? A ~.750 OPS bat? Thats close to what Ellsbury likely is next year anyways.

    I said before this offseason, if the Yankees have a strict budget they can’t re-sign Cano, but if they plan to be the Yankees and actually exercise their financial might they really do need to re-sign him.

  105. Bret The Hitman January 22nd, 2014 at 12:25 pm

    I love how money is removed from the comparison and it’s Gardner + Cano vs. Ellsbury instead of Gardner + Cano vs. Ellsbury + Gardner (or whatever they might get for Gardner in a trade) + the player(s) they can sign with the money difference between Cano and Ellsbury which is significant.

    How convenient…and simplistic.

  106. Ted Nelson January 22nd, 2014 at 12:27 pm

    “…and guys, far from being over it, this signing makes it even sillier that they didn’t sign him (because of a couple of back-end years, when all the other humongous deals would have been long off the books).”

    If will probably be AT LEAST 5 back end years for the Ms, possibly more based on the new post-PEDs era reality of player aging.

    “Cano + Gardner >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ellsbury.”

    They’ll also probably cost something like $130-150 million more than Ellsbury or 100% more, so you’re not really comparing apples to apples.

  107. oak2455 January 22nd, 2014 at 12:27 pm

    Cano wanted 10 years stop already…….and he’s buddies with Melky, Arod and Ortiz…..hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm no thanks

  108. Howler January 22nd, 2014 at 12:28 pm

    So on a day when the focus should be on getting the pitcher they’ve been longing for, we’re back to whining about losing Cano…the shining god of the surefire WS hero we needed for 10 years…Something tells me Cano is looking at the Yankee signing and saying, “Oh Crap,” this morning.
    Would’ve been nice to have him, don’t need another A-rod style contract, that everyone is giddy about getting out of this year.

  109. PhiltheThrill January 22nd, 2014 at 12:29 pm

    need an IF who can hit, and I’d let the farm supply the pen.

  110. Wave Your Hat January 22nd, 2014 at 12:29 pm

    “This offseason would have been way better if we had signed Cano instead of Ellsbury.”

    Today is not the day for negative thoughts.

  111. Bret The Hitman January 22nd, 2014 at 12:30 pm

    howler,

    spoiled

  112. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 12:30 pm

    Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS 1m
    Tanaka received a full no-trade. #yankees

  113. J. Alfred Prufrock January 22nd, 2014 at 12:31 pm

    I’m rather surprised they talked about Jagielo and Judge in Tampa. That’s a tough league for hitters and Judge I don’t think even played last year. I think one or both of those guys are in Charleston. I also thought Katoh would skip Staten Island and go to Charleston but what do I know.
    ///

    I just hope these guys are ready for that and it’s not a cosmetic “see, we’ve got fast-track guys in the system” move. I have no idea, having seen neither. You can always demote players, like they’ve done with Gumbs, which was unavoidable, I guees, but it isn’t the best approach to development. It would be nice if they can justify the jump.

  114. JobaTipsHisCap January 22nd, 2014 at 12:32 pm

    “we’d have a payroll of $300 million a year if we wanted to”

    Hank rules.

  115. bbb51 January 22nd, 2014 at 12:32 pm

    I’m not unhappy they didn’t give Cano 10 years.

    Thought I’d throw that in there amidst all the Cano whining on the heals of the Tanaka signing.

  116. Wave Your Hat January 22nd, 2014 at 12:32 pm

    “Tanaka received a full no-trade. #yankees”

    That goes without saying.

  117. Mottsx January 22nd, 2014 at 12:33 pm

    Guesses on his #? Im guessing the vacated #19 that Vernon took for a week until Kuroda is gone next year.

  118. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 12:34 pm

    Ted,
    I misread Johnson’s career split against LHP apparently…..but again I’d like to have them both on the roster as Jeter and Roberts are both health risks. Baker gives them a nice platoon option for a few spots….he’s a luxury item though I admist and I don’t really disagree that overal Johnson would be more valuable to have

  119. Jeff in Canada January 22nd, 2014 at 12:34 pm

    ” Howler January 22nd, 2014 at 12:22 pm – Guess we’re going to be lamenting Cano all year, despite his ridiculous demands.”

    Regarding the “loss” of Cano, it goes something like this:

    Denial and Isolation: “Signing with the M’s isn’t finished yet – maybe it will fall through. I’m going for a walk..”

    Anger: “HAL YOU DIRTY ROTTEN SOB! WE’RE FINISHED! DAMN YOU 189!”

    Bargaining: “Sign every free agent you can. The sum of the parts is actually greater than the whole.”

    Depression: “Tanaka is unproven, McCann is no Posada, Ellsbury is made of glass, Beltran is old, Jeter is old, my lunch is old, my computer is old…I’m old..”

    How Yankees/Cano fans will reach the “Acceptance” stage: Ellsbury MVP, Yankees 2014/2015/2016 World Champions, and Cano busted for PED’s

  120. exiledintampa January 22nd, 2014 at 12:36 pm

    It should be like NCAA football. Tanaka and Kuroda will never be on the field at the same time. Let them both where #18.

  121. J. Alfred Prufrock January 22nd, 2014 at 12:36 pm

    Do they sign contracts on their heals in Japan?

    What happens when they shower?

  122. Warning Track Power January 22nd, 2014 at 12:38 pm

    mick January 22nd, 2014 at 11:41 am
    “Anybody that questioned our commitment to winning is going to have to question themselves,” Hank Steinbrenner to AP.
    ——————————————————————————————–
    Reading this quote makes me want to apply some eye black and take the field right now!

  123. bigdan22 January 22nd, 2014 at 12:38 pm

    Pruf lets just hope we have some action in Trenton this year. I’ll be following Austin closely again. I’m willing to give him a mulligan for last year but I’m concerned that wrist injuries never seem to go away until surgery. Sanchez needs to produce now too. Some real numbers. I expect Slade to be in Scranton. What starters do you expect to following closely in Trenton? Your thoughts too Feminista?

  124. Ted Nelson January 22nd, 2014 at 12:38 pm

    ” I mean, what could he be in 10 years? A ~.750 OPS bat?”

    That’s probably close to the best case scenario. In the last three years 5 guys who were 38+ have put up an OPS of .750. Odds seem a lot greater that his OPS in 10 years is below .750 than above it. There’s also a pretty good chance that even if Cano is healthy and OPS’ing .750 in 10 years he’s not playing 2B, or heavily offsetting his offensive production there with poor defense.

    “A ~.750 OPS bat? Thats close to what Ellsbury likely is next year anyways.”

    ZIPs has him at .779, but OPS also isn’t a measure of player value. Ellsbury is an elite baserunner who has led the league in steals 3 times and an elite defender at a premium defensive position.

  125. J. Alfred Prufrock January 22nd, 2014 at 12:39 pm

    I don’t see why Kuroda should give up his No. to the newbie.

    It would be a nice gesture, but I don’t think he is obliged to do so.

  126. yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 12:39 pm

    bigdan22 January 22nd, 2014 at 12:18 pm
    yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 12:09 pm
    MTU, bigdan, wonder if we will see Hensley and Clarkin in Charleston. Hensley is right on course, so I would think no EST.

    ——–

    I’m rather surprised they talked about Jagielo and Judge in Tampa. That’s a tough league for hitters and Judge I don’t think even played last year. I think one or both of those guys are in Charleston. I also thought Katoh would skip Staten Island and go to Charleston but what do I know.
    ______
    I guess they feel Jagielo is that advanced; like Pruf I too wonder if they move Feliz back to 2B from 3B, which would make more sense. I would assume Andujar goes to SI, and I wonder if we get O’Brien in Trenton. And what do you do with Bichette? As for Judge agree; it would be surprising. Also wonder if Clarkin shouldn’t be in EST. Katoh, in spite of his big bat in GCL, may just be that they want him to get more instruction, want him to fill out and get stronger before they put him in a longer season. But they have to be very happy with him. And what happens with Bichette at 3B? He is on shaky ground.

  127. yankinvegas January 22nd, 2014 at 12:40 pm

    He’ll wear # 17 is my guess.
    Given the fact that Tanaka will be under constant scrutiny and making a big adjustment, it is vital that CC becomes an ace again.
    By 2015 Tanaka will be a dominant stud.
    I like the opt-out. The Yankees better hope that he uses it. Otherwise it would mean that he was either seriously injured or a bust.
    Rosenthal wrote today that the players are missing the point on ARod. he is not the problem, the problem is MLB running roughshod over a players” rights.
    Tony Clark is a great guy. I lived in the same building as he did in New Rochelle in 2004 and met him many times, but he is not qualified to lead a labor union against a pirhanna like Manfred who is an accomplished union hater.
    The players better watch out and realize that their real enemy is MLB, not Alex Rodriguez.
    And Tommy Lasorda should shut the hell up and go back to the home.

  128. exiledintampa January 22nd, 2014 at 12:41 pm

    I was only joking about Kuroda’s number. A kid should never take a vets number.

  129. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West January 22nd, 2014 at 12:41 pm

    Oh, happy day!

    My kid woke up sick, we have to fly to Florida today to see grandma, I’m not looking forward to the 6 hour flight. But, the yanks signed Tanaka….so I can’t complain too much.

  130. Chip January 22nd, 2014 at 12:43 pm

    Hal will now be accepting the apologies of all those who were saying that the Yankees were going to go cheap this year and that Ellsbury, McCann and Beltran were smokescreens.

  131. Hankflorida January 22nd, 2014 at 12:45 pm

    They really need to make a deal for a non-dumpster diving 2B option. Like I said, you need guys who can field behind the staff they’ve put together.

    Alfred, history is on your side as the type of pitchers that the Yankees have always had in their championship years were ground ball pitchers with great fielding second basemens and shortstops who could keep the ball in the infield like Jerry Colemen and Phil Ruzzuto. You know how I feel about Cano and am sorry that he did not understand the value of playing in pinstripes for the rest of career. I just read that Tanaka was offered more money and years from the Cubs but wanted to be a Yankee, and I wish that Cano had takes the seven year deal for 175 million. Cano will still be the greatest Yankee 2nd basemen and probably the 2nd greatest at the base in baseball history.

  132. Chip January 22nd, 2014 at 12:46 pm

    Jerkface January 22nd, 2014 at 12:21 pm

    This offseason would have been way better if we had signed Cano instead of Ellsbury.
    ———————-

    You’re really living up to your name.

  133. J. Alfred Prufrock January 22nd, 2014 at 12:46 pm

    dan,

    I was hoping we’d have DePaula but that won’t happen, certainly not to start the season; maybe late in the year.

    Mitchell wasn’t there long so he’ll be back. Heredia may move up, that would be awesome, never have seen him.

    Guys like Nuding will be there again I guess, but to me he’s a reliever.

    Not sure who else may be moved up.

  134. Ted Nelson January 22nd, 2014 at 12:46 pm

    “I just hope these guys are ready for that and it’s not a cosmetic “see, we’ve got fast-track guys in the system” move. I have no idea, having seen neither.”

    Most elite college bats are ready for High A, so it wouldn’t be particularly aggressive. There are some questions about Judge’s polish, but I think that just about everyone expects Jagielo to start 2014 in Tampa. A lot of people were talking about him being most MLB ready among position players in the draft, can’t remember if that included Bryant or not.

    “Yeah, great players want to get paid.”

    And as a result, they are often overpaid. It’s really hard to look at how all of the $200+ million deals in baseball have turned out and still be so adamant that not signing Cano was a mistake. It could prove to be one, but there’s also a good chance that it proves to have been a wise decision.

  135. Mottsx January 22nd, 2014 at 12:47 pm

    Who roster spot does he take, David Huff DFA, or trade Nunie for a shack shake stand?

  136. hardwired7 January 22nd, 2014 at 12:47 pm

    “Tanaka will be elite from day one.” – KLaw

  137. bigdan22 January 22nd, 2014 at 12:47 pm

    I didn’t want to be the first to bring up Arod on such a lovely day (it’s about 80 today in LA). But I’ve reposted something I wrote last night. I’m still confused on Arod “having” to sue the union. If somebody can straighten me out on this, much appreciated.

    But if I’m right and Arod obtains no personal benefit from his lawsuit by suing the union, then there’s a huge story being missed out there. A story something like, “why are they treating Arod like a villain when he’s actually the hero.”

    ———

    “Need the help of some labor lawyers out there. I’m actually a securities lawyer.

    I’ve been saying that I’m confused why Arod chose to sue his union. Apparently, under federal labor law, if a union member chooses to sue his employer for breach of contract, he must sue his union as well. Arod is suing MLB for breach of the CBA. My question is why? What’s the relief if Arod succeeds in proving MLB violated the CBA? Not monetary damages. Not even an order vacating Horowitz’s decision. That’s a totally different legal claim.
    The only thing I can think of is Arod wants the judge to issue an order stating that MLB misinterpreted the “just cause” provision of the JDA. At least that’s how his Prayer for Relief seems to read. If that’s the case, then Arod is suing the union solely to protect it’s members not named Arod.”

  138. Wave Your Hat January 22nd, 2014 at 12:47 pm

    “Hal will now be accepting the apologies of all those who were saying that the Yankees were going to go cheap this year and that Ellsbury, McCann and Beltran were smokescreens.”

    Today is also not the day to attack other Yankee fans. There will be other days for that. Today let us all be happy together.

  139. brianlopez22 January 22nd, 2014 at 12:48 pm

    Oh Happy Day!!!!

    Great move! Go get F Rodney to sure up the ‘pen and I like our chances!
    Even without FRod, I like our chances.

  140. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 12:49 pm

    The A’s bullpen is ridiculous

  141. yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 12:50 pm

    “Sanchez needs to produce now too. Some real numbers.”
    ___
    I think he will. He’s still making adjustments, but he looked good the few times I saw him at the end of the year. Really started having a plan in his AB’s after whiffing early. And don’t forget that ballpark eats hitters for lunch. So, there are qualifiers.

    Think B. Mitchell will continue to be the Trenton ace; he still has work to do. Tracy and Nuding back in AA. Not sure but think Mikey O’Brien will be starting at least out of the gate. Hoping we get DePaula second half if he can iron out his mechanics and that slider(dread: slider/cutter) keeps advancing. I read Heredia might be in AA. He made some nice progress. Unsure about his current velo, but I guess it ticked up, so that is a good sign.

  142. bigdan22 January 22nd, 2014 at 12:50 pm

    . Alfred Prufrock January 22nd, 2014 at 12:46 pm
    dan,

    I was hoping we’d have DePaula but that won’t happen, certainly not to start the season; maybe late in the year.

    Mitchell wasn’t there long so he’ll be back. Heredia may move up, that would be awesome, never have seen him.

    Guys like Nuding will be there again I guess, but to me he’s a reliever.

    Not sure who else may be moved up.

    ———–

    Of course we are bound to be surprised, but it seems like it may be a slow season for pitching prospects at Trenton. Be nice to see Mitchell break out. They always talk about his stuff.

  143. Wave Your Hat January 22nd, 2014 at 12:50 pm

    I believe ARod must sue the union because technically ARod was not a party to the arbitration. And I believe in the current complaint the relief sought is a vacating of Horowitz’ decision.

  144. J. Alfred Prufrock January 22nd, 2014 at 12:51 pm

    Alfred, history is on your side as the type of pitchers that the Yankees have always had in their championship years were ground ball pitchers with great fielding second basemens and shortstops who could keep the ball in the infield like Jerry Colemen and Phil Ruzzuto. You know how I feel about Cano and am sorry that he did not understand the value of playing in pinstripes for the rest of career. I just read that Tanaka was offered more money and years from the Cubs but wanted to be a Yankee, and I wish that Cano had takes the seven year deal for 175 million. Cano will still be the greatest Yankee 2nd basemen and probably the 2nd greatest at the base in baseball history.
    ///

    Hank, I’m not sure about the POV that he didn’t understand the value of playing in pinstripes, perhaps the Yankees didn’t understand the value of keeping him thus?

    But I agree with the rest of your post, and you certainly share my sense of what is a monumental loss, and to me, an entirely unavoidable and careless one.

  145. J. Alfred Prufrock January 22nd, 2014 at 12:51 pm

    *avoidable and careless one :)

  146. yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 12:53 pm

    I am also assuming they keep some of the pitchers who were out last year in Tampa until the weather warms up(?)
    _____
    Chip January 22nd, 2014 at 12:46 pm
    Jerkface January 22nd, 2014 at 12:21 pm

    This offseason would have been way better if we had signed Cano instead of Ellsbury.
    ———————-

    You’re really living up to your name.
    ____
    Is the insult necessary? And it is a legitimate argument. Why is it that some people here always want to quell discussion? Speak to the point or ignore it and celebrate, as you wish to.

  147. TheStraw January 22nd, 2014 at 12:54 pm

    I wonder if Hideki gave him his porn collection to convince him to come to NY?

  148. J. Alfred Prufrock January 22nd, 2014 at 12:54 pm

    dan,

    Mitchell does have good stuff; great curve, throws hard and down in the zone and he seems to be doing well with his added (dread) cutter.

    Command was his issue (what else?) but he finished up strong.

    Do you get out to Trenton? Great place to take in a game.

  149. yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 12:58 pm

    “Be nice to see Mitchell break out. They always talk about his stuff.”
    __
    The stuff is really good. He has easy velo. Still think he needs to become more of a pitcher.

    Another pitcher I am pumped to see live is Omar Luis. A shame that we will have to put him on the roster early. Hopefully, we don’t take too much risk with him on future rule 5′s.

  150. J. Alfred Prufrock January 22nd, 2014 at 12:58 pm

    Yankeefem – forgot about Tracy. O’Brien is forgettable :)

  151. Poetkiosk January 22nd, 2014 at 1:01 pm

    I have to say this was a wonderful surprise in the midst of teaching the few children that showed up for school today. What I like about it is that it feels like the Yankees are back and in that win at any cost mode. We basically just used money this season to recreate a team, and money is practically printed in the Bronx when the Yankees are winning. What little farm system we have was left virtually untouched and we have some amazing plot lines to look forward to, such as:

    1) Will Derek regain his old form and go out with a bang?
    2) Will CC learn how to pitch with reduced velocity and become the ace again?
    3) Will the Yankees be able to keep Kuroda fresh this year so he doesn’t dip at the end?
    4) How will McCann work as the general behind the plate? How will become a leader?
    5) Will Elsbury revert to health problems or be the stud he was paid to be?
    6) How good will Beltran really be this year? Will he help us in the post-season?
    7) Will Gardner and Elsbury combine to give us crazy speed?
    8) Can Soriano continue his amazing debut as a Yankee?
    9) WHo fills in for Arod?
    10) Can Robers really be an everyday 2B?
    11)And that’s without adding today’s story – Will Tanaka be worth all the hype and money?

    Great day for Yankee fans.

  152. yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 1:02 pm

    Pruf, well… we don’t have the best group of pitchers at AA that I have ever seen. I’ll say that. But the groups below that have some major upside. And second half we hopefully get DePaula.

  153. Against All Odds January 22nd, 2014 at 1:02 pm

    Bret The Hitman January 22nd, 2014 at 11:23 am
    Some of the burden of Hank’s shame was relieved when Arod got 162.

    ————–

    You mean the burden of Hank and Hal’s shame.

  154. J. Alfred Prufrock January 22nd, 2014 at 1:03 pm

    And Tommy Lasorda should shut the hell up and go back to the home.
    ///

    When has Jello Man ever shut his big fat mouth?

    One of my fondest memories: “He’s gotta get out of the waaayyy!

    We got a lot of mileage out of that in my family for years and years.

  155. Jerkface January 22nd, 2014 at 1:03 pm

    What I like about it is that it feels like the Yankees are back and in that win at any cost mode.

    They still have more holes to fill and as IATMS points out, the payroll is still like 20 million less than last seasons. They’ve gone beyond 189 but still managed to reduce payroll.

  156. exiledintampa January 22nd, 2014 at 1:03 pm

    Poet – yes

  157. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 1:04 pm

    Drew and Balfour please

  158. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 1:05 pm

    Back from our walk.

    Me and the Mopsters did our victory lap.

    They told me they are very happy and excited to have Tanaka.

    :)

  159. bigdan22 January 22nd, 2014 at 1:06 pm

    Wave Your Hat January 22nd, 2014 at 12:50 pm
    I believe ARod must sue the union because technically ARod was not a party to the arbitration. And I believe in the current complaint the relief sought is a vacating of Horowitz’ decision.

    ——–

    There are three Prayers for relief reflecting three separate causes of action. 1. An order stating that the union violated it’s duty of representation. 2. An order stating that MLB violated the collectively bargained agreements by suspending Arod without just cause and 3. an order vacating the arbitrator’s decision.

    My question is, why not just seek the third relief to have the arbitration decision thrown out? He had to sue the union under federal law if he claims that MLB violated any collective bargaining agreements. But why does he need to argue that in a separate claim? He could make that part of vacatur and not sue the union at all.

    It’s quite possible, and maybe even likely, that Arod wins on the first two causes of action, but loses on the third and the court refuses to vacate the arbitration decision. In that case, Arod has spent millions of dollars of his own money in legal fees to prevent Selig or any future commissioners from abusing their authority in future disciplinary actions but has not helped his own situation at all.

  160. Captain Clutch January 22nd, 2014 at 1:06 pm

    If they don’t want Drew fine but they need Balfour or another reliever.

  161. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 1:07 pm

    Poet-

    Nice summary.

    ;)

  162. nettles9nc January 22nd, 2014 at 1:07 pm

    Great news today for all the Yankee faithful…

    For those still complaining about Cano, get over it already

    For those thinking we are done spending…maybe..the rumors are that we are not spending on any “pricey” free agents, since we don’t really know what that means in terms of years and price, I wouldn’t count Hal out…whats pricey to us may not be pricey to them…

  163. Warning Track Power January 22nd, 2014 at 1:07 pm

    hardwired7 January 22nd, 2014 at 12:47 pm
    “Tanaka will be elite from day one.” – KLaw
    ————————————————————————————————–
    I hope Keith is correct but I am still very guarded. My expectations are not as high as some around here.
    I will be thrilled if Tanaka makes about 30 starts during the season and has a record of
    12-4
    Is that asking a lot?

  164. bigdan22 January 22nd, 2014 at 1:08 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock January 22nd, 2014 at 12:54 pm
    dan,

    Mitchell does have good stuff; great curve, throws hard and down in the zone and he seems to be doing well with his added (dread) cutter.

    Command was his issue (what else?) but he finished up strong.

    Do you get out to Trenton? Great place to take in a game.

    ——–

    Thanks for the report! I would if I lived on the east coast. But I’m in southern California.

  165. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 1:08 pm

    Wave-

    I gave you my predictions the other day.

    Fairly modest as well.

    ;)

  166. Warning Track Power January 22nd, 2014 at 1:08 pm

    nettles9nc January 22nd, 2014 at 1:07 pm
    Great news today for all the Yankee faithful…

    For those still complaining about Cano, get over it already
    ——————————————————————————————————–
    I would love to meet the “fans” complaining about Cano to this day.
    What is there to complain about? Cano didn’t want to return. Cano was asking for an absurd amount of money.
    I would rather have Tanaka signed vs Cano signed to that ludicrous deal the M’s signed him to.

  167. Captain Clutch January 22nd, 2014 at 1:09 pm

    They spent a ton of money but the infield is still extremely shaky. It’s very risky to go into next season with the SS, 2nd and 3rd that they have if they don’t get another infielder.

  168. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 1:09 pm

    The 1:08 was for WTP.

    Sorry.

  169. Cashmoney January 22nd, 2014 at 1:10 pm

    that’s a good take on T, Jerk. congratulations to NYY and Mr. Tanaka.

    Time to address the pen.

  170. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    The Yankees should shore up the IF and Pen a little more.

    I believe it is coming.

    ;)

  171. Warning Track Power January 22nd, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 1:09 pm
    The 1:08 was for WTP.

    ————————————————————————————————–
    Didn’t see your predictions yesterday. Care to give me the cliff notes???

  172. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 1:13 pm

    Have we established if Tanaka is for or against kicking Arod out of the union?

  173. champ809 January 22nd, 2014 at 1:13 pm

    blake January 22nd, 2014 at 11:33 am
    “I’m trying to figure out what David Price thinks he’s worth…”

    Hey if I’m him I’m trying to get what Kershaw got……he’s not as good or as young as Kershaw but that doesn’t really matter in free agency.
    ———————————————————————————
    Disagree with this statement wholeheartedly. Obviously the age is the age but I think price would be every bit the pitcher Kershaw is pitching in the NL vs. those lineups

  174. bigdan22 January 22nd, 2014 at 1:14 pm

    Jerkface January 22nd, 2014 at 1:03 pm
    What I like about it is that it feels like the Yankees are back and in that win at any cost mode.

    They still have more holes to fill and as IATMS points out, the payroll is still like 20 million less than last seasons. They’ve gone beyond 189 but still managed to reduce payroll.

    ———

    Hmm. I pointed that out specifically earlier this morning. In fact, weeks ago I discussed this very same scenario when I pointed out the optimum payroll for this team should be between 210-220. The clever middle ground.

  175. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 1:14 pm

    ST is gonna be awesome…… tanaka , Ellsbury, Beltran, Jeter back……,,Arod taking ground balls on he parking lot ….:can wait

  176. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 1:15 pm

    Can’t wait

  177. TheStraw January 22nd, 2014 at 1:15 pm

    Sign Balfour and call it an offseason. Johnson can hone up on 3B in ST and start there. Jeter/Ryan at short. Ride Roberts until he breaks. Russ Canzler also could be in the mix at 3B/1B backup. Let Pineda and Phelps fight it out for the 5th spot in the rotation. Trade Gardner and Murphy/Romine to SD for Headley in July.

  178. J. Alfred Prufrock January 22nd, 2014 at 1:15 pm

    Thanks for the report! I would if I lived on the east coast. But I’m in southern California.
    ///

    Yeah, that’s kind of a hike :)

  179. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 1:16 pm

    WTP-

    15 or more wins.

    Under 3.5 ERA.

    WHIP less than 1.2

    Rookie of the Year candidate.

    Maybe a better 1st year than Hellickson.

    Pretty conservative for Tanaka actually.

    His potential is that high.

    Some depends on how he settles in.

    He has the advantage in that there is no book on him.

    Lot’s of video but it is not the same.

    He will give hitter’s fits with that split.

    ;)

  180. yankeefeminista January 22nd, 2014 at 1:17 pm

    “Thanks for the report! I would if I lived on the east coast. But I’m in southern California.”

    At least the MiLB-TV coverage keeps improving. Pretty sweet that so many Yanks MiLB games are now being shown, whereas a few years ago only AAA games were streamed.

  181. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 1:17 pm

    “Disagree with this statement wholeheartedly. Obviously the age is the age but I think price would be every bit the pitcher Kershaw is pitching in the NL vs. those lineups”

    Check out their era+ numbers……price is good….Kershaw is on a whole other level. Koufax didn’t have a season as good as Kershaws 2013 by era+

  182. PittsburghYankeeFan January 22nd, 2014 at 1:21 pm

    So, with Cots from today ($172 million) and assume Tanaka is an AAV of $22 million, payroll without the 20 or so guys on the 40 man making the league minimum (0.5M each) is $194 million. Add in benefits ($11 million) and the rest of the 40 man ($8-10 million) gets you to about $215 million.

    They could get creative and bring it down to about $205 million, but even at $215M their lux tax is 50% of 215-189 = 50% of $26 million = $13 million this year. Consider it like an additional posting fee for MT, so the total extra hit is $33 million. I’d take that.

  183. Patrick January 22nd, 2014 at 1:21 pm

    Fake Peter Gammons ?@FakePeteGammons 2m
    In the end #Tanaka chose evil #Yankees over Theo, the most handsome man I’ve ever laid eyes, fingers & toes on. This is Peter Gammons #Cubs

    yep

  184. Jerkface January 22nd, 2014 at 1:21 pm

    The AL vs NL thing gets extremely overrated. Kershaw had a 1 ERA last year, and Price had a 3.33 ERA. Price is good. A good lefty who can put up some elite years. Kershaw is on another level though. Price is inconsistent.

  185. Warning Track Power January 22nd, 2014 at 1:21 pm

    MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 1:16 pm
    WTP-

    15 or more wins.

    Under 3.5 ERA.

    WHIP less than 1.2

    Rookie of the Year candidate.

    Maybe a better 1st year than Hellickson.

    Pretty conservative for Tanaka actually.

    His potential is that high.

    Some depends on how he settles in.

    He has the advantage in that there is no book on him.

    Lot’s of video but it is not the same.

    He will give hitter’s fits with that split.

    ;)
    ———————————————————————————
    WOW-Those are anything but modest numbers. Would be wonderful if he lived up to your expectations. I think doing so would guarantee a very strong season for the team.
    I still am keeping my hopes very, very low. Same goes for Ellsbury. No reason for me personally to get carried away and expect a career year out of the game.

  186. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 1:21 pm

    Blake-

    Hard to compare across generations IMO.

  187. Wave Your Hat January 22nd, 2014 at 1:23 pm

    Bigdan,

    Not sure but I think that since ARod was not a party to the arbitration he has to allege that the party who owed him a duty, that is, the union, breached a duty to him in order to ask the federal court to vacate Horowiitz’ decision.

  188. J. Alfred Prufrock January 22nd, 2014 at 1:23 pm

    Patrick January 22nd, 2014 at 1:21 pm

    Fake Peter Gammons ?@FakePeteGammons 2m
    In the end #Tanaka chose evil #Yankees over Theo, the most handsome man I’ve ever laid eyes, fingers & toes on. This is Peter Gammons #Cubs
    ///

    :)

    Sure be nice to have Fake Pete’s creator back on this blog.

  189. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 1:23 pm

    WTP-

    Ellsbury has Damon potential.

    Tanaka has Kuroda potential.

    Pretty nice.

    ;)

  190. Warning Track Power January 22nd, 2014 at 1:24 pm

    Wave Your Hat January 22nd, 2014 at 1:23 pm
    Bigdan,

    Not sure but I think that since ARod was not a party to the arbitration he has to allege that the party who owed him a duty, that is, the union, breached a duty to him in order to ask the federal court to vacate Horowiitz’ decision.
    ————————————————————————
    What is an ARod?
    Does he also pitch? Is he a top prospect from Japan?
    HAHAHA

  191. Chip January 22nd, 2014 at 1:24 pm

    I think the important part of Law’s quote is “some day” I don’t think it’s right to expect Tanaka to come in and immediately be what Yu Darvish is now.

    Darvish put up a near 4 ERA in his first year – there’s an adjustment process.

  192. Patrick January 22nd, 2014 at 1:24 pm

    Sure be nice to have Fake Pete’s creator back on this blog.

    Who created that account?

  193. Warning Track Power January 22nd, 2014 at 1:26 pm

    My prediction for the SP to open the season

    C.C.
    Kuroda
    Tanaka
    Nova
    Pineda

    Not bad if this group lives up to expectations

  194. Patrick January 22nd, 2014 at 1:26 pm

    Darvish in his first season .. 191.1 IP, 3.9 ERA, 10.4 K/9 … if Tanaka puts up the same line in his first season it would be pretty great.

  195. J. Alfred Prufrock January 22nd, 2014 at 1:26 pm

    Patrick,

    GLove! He’s FakeHankStein, too.

  196. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 1:27 pm

    Chip-

    Yeah. Baseball will have to find a way to adjust to Tanaka.

    ;)

  197. Warning Track Power January 22nd, 2014 at 1:27 pm

    Chip January 22nd, 2014 at 1:24 pm
    I think the important part of Law’s quote is “some day” I don’t think it’s right to expect Tanaka to come in and immediately be what Yu Darvish is now.

    Darvish put up a near 4 ERA in his first year – there’s an adjustment process.
    ————————————————————————————
    Good point. Can you post Darvish’s stats last year please?

  198. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 1:27 pm

    MTU says:
    January 22, 2014 at 1:21 pm
    Blake-

    Hard to compare across generations IMO.

    Yea it is…kershaw is amazing though

  199. Cashmoney January 22nd, 2014 at 1:28 pm

    when I pointed out the optimum payroll for this team should be between 210-220.
    —–
    I agree. I initially thought about 230, the thought behind it was Rod being suspended for 100 games.

    Regardless, you got 200 mil dollar race car, it makes sense to shore up any perceived weakness and by spending the incremental dollars on top of it.

  200. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 1:28 pm

    Blake-

    He is.

    But so was Sandy.

    ;)

  201. Warning Track Power January 22nd, 2014 at 1:29 pm

    Signing Tanaka was a great move by Cashman & Hal
    Not signing Cano was a great move by Cashman & Hal

    Those 2 are on a roll. Give them their props!!!

  202. macintosh January 22nd, 2014 at 1:29 pm

    “ORGANIZATION 1 – DOUBTERS 0?

    …nice try
    actually:

    BOYCOTTERS 1- ENABLERS 0 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  203. hardwired7 January 22nd, 2014 at 1:29 pm

    Keith Law didn’t use the qualifier “some day”.

  204. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 1:30 pm

    MTU,
    yup….I was just using that to compare Kershaw to Price though…..Price is really good…..Kerwhaw is significantly better

  205. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 1:30 pm

    Blake-

    I think Sandy had a better FB than Kershaw.

    Curves are close.

  206. joeman January 22nd, 2014 at 1:31 pm

    there you go Mike…..should be fun watching him

  207. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 1:31 pm

    Kershaw is much better than Price.

    More complete as a pitcher.

  208. hardwired7 January 22nd, 2014 at 1:31 pm

    I should add: Unless you’re talking about a different quote.

  209. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 1:32 pm

    Joeman-

    Oh yeah !

    :)

  210. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 1:32 pm

    I expect Tanaka to have some growing pains…..it’s an adjustment he’s going to have to go through…..but I’m hoping that seeing how it went with Darvish will help him.

    Everyone expected Darvish to struggle initially with the style…..he’d have to pitch off his fastball more and not nibble….and initially he did do that some. Once he stopping giving mlb hitters so much credit and started attacking them he was off……I’m hoping Tanaka gets that and just comes in and attacks and tries not to change who he is just because it’s a new league.

  211. bigdan22 January 22nd, 2014 at 1:32 pm

    Wave Your Hat January 22nd, 2014 at 1:23 pm
    Bigdan,

    Not sure but I think that since ARod was not a party to the arbitration he has to allege that the party who owed him a duty, that is, the union, breached a duty to him in order to ask the federal court to vacate Horowiitz’ decision.

    ——-

    Maybe, but he certainly would have standing in a federal court equitable action because he clearly is a party in interest with respect to the arbitration. Maybe there’s something in federal labor law that says he has to sue the union but from what I’ve read that only applies if you are suing the employer for breach of contract. Arod really is suing to get a court to say Horowitz screwed up. Don’t see the need for a separate breach of contract claim.

  212. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 1:32 pm

    I don’t want LR messing with him.

  213. Jerkface January 22nd, 2014 at 1:33 pm

    I think the more important thing for a Darvish comparison is the ERA+ instead of the ERA. The 3.9 ERA was a 112 ERA+ because Texas is a hitters dream park.

    Andy Pettitte’s 3.74 ERA last year was good for a 108 ERA+ in NYS. So Tanaka matching Darvish in his first year could be a ~3.5-3.6 ERA. I’ll take it! I think a mid 3 ERA is very achievable.

  214. joeman January 22nd, 2014 at 1:34 pm

    I got to check out the Vegas odds for the NYY winning the WS…before the sign it was 14/1

  215. pkyankfan69 January 22nd, 2014 at 1:34 pm

    Does Tanaka win the AL ROY?

  216. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 1:34 pm

    Darvish wasn’t bad in his first year…..but once he started pitching off his fastball and stopped picking around he turned into a top 10 guy

  217. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 1:35 pm

    Blake-

    Reasons for optimism:

    1) Tanaka has Kuroda to lean on for advice. Like a 2nd pitching coach only better.

    2) Tanaka’s arsenal is different than Darvish’s. The split is his biggest weapon. Deadly.

    3) Tanaka has pinpoint control.

  218. joeman January 22nd, 2014 at 1:35 pm

    Vegas insider says odds dropped from 20/1 to 12/1 with the sign

  219. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 1:36 pm

    JF,
    what do you make of the fact that Tanaka was actually better in his final 3 seasons in Japan than Darvish was in his final 3 seasons. Darvish appears to have better overall stuff……but just watching the video I’m not sure he has a single secondary pitch as good as Tanaka’s split is……

  220. exiledintampa January 22nd, 2014 at 1:36 pm

    David Huff DFA ed.

  221. Patrick January 22nd, 2014 at 1:37 pm

    Anytime we talk about Darvish the only thought I have is “man I wish the Yankees had that guy” :(

    Hopefully Tanaka can dull the pain

  222. Jerkface January 22nd, 2014 at 1:37 pm

    Does Tanaka win the AL ROY?

    He has to be the odds on favorite for it. I don’t know of any top prospects AL side that can compete with him. He will have to deal with Jose Abreu in Chicago though. If Abreu hits 30 bombs and Chicago makes the 2nd wild card he could win the ROY.

  223. joeman January 22nd, 2014 at 1:37 pm

    Following the Yankees signing of star Japanese pitcher Masashiro Tanaka to a $155 million deal, New York has moved from 20/1 odds to 12/1 to win the World Series. Check out all the updated MLB odds below:

    2014 Odds to win World Series
    Los Angeles Dodgers 11/2
    Detroit Tigers 7/1
    Washington Nationals 9/1
    St. Louis Cardinals 9/1
    Boston Red Sox 12/1
    New York Yankees 12/1
    Tampa Bay Rays 13/1
    Los Angeles Angels 15/1
    Cincinnati Reds 15/1
    Atlanta Braves 15/1
    Oakland Athletics 17/1
    Texas Rangers 17/1
    San Francisco Giants 17/1
    Pittsburgh Pirates 25/1
    Seattle Mariners 30/1
    Philadelphia Phillies 30/1
    Baltimore Orioles 35/1
    Kansas City Royals 35/1
    Chicago White Sox 35/1
    Toronto Blue Jays 35/1
    Arizona Diamondbacks 40/1
    Cleveland Indians 40/1
    Chicago Cubs 60/1
    San Diego Padres 70/1
    Milwaukee Brewers 70/1
    Colorado Rockies 70/1
    New York Mets 80/1
    Miami Marlins 80/1
    Minnesota Twins 100/1
    Houston Astros 200/1

    2014 Odds to win AL Pennant
    Detroit Tigers 3/1
    Boston Red Sox 11/2
    New York Yankees 11/2
    Tampa Bay Rays 6/1
    Los Angeles Angels 7/1
    Oakland Athletics 8/1
    Texas Rangers 8/1
    Seattle Mariners 14/1
    Baltimore Orioles 17/1
    Kansas City Royals 17/1
    Toronto Blue Jays 17/1
    Chicago White Sox 17/1
    Cleveland Indians 19/1
    Minnesota Twins 40/1
    Houston Astros 90/1

  224. UpState January 22nd, 2014 at 1:38 pm

    bbb51 January 22nd, 2014 at 12:32 pm
    I’m not unhappy they didn’t give Cano 10 years.

    Thought I’d throw that in there amidst all the Cano whining on the heals of the Tanaka signing.
    =================================

    Agreed.

    It’s been a good morning !!!

    Dominos ready to topple throughout MLB…..will be interesting for the next few days…

    Thanks, Hank & Hal !!!

  225. Patrick January 22nd, 2014 at 1:39 pm

    A’s and Rangers at 17/1 seem like the best value to me

  226. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 1:39 pm

    Uehara flat out dominated MLB last year with a 89 mph fastball and a 81 MPH splitter…..he threw those two pitches 95% of the time……now it was in relief…..but MLB hitters can’t hit a good splitter right now.

  227. pkyankfan69 January 22nd, 2014 at 1:40 pm

    Tanaka – Abreu – Bogaerts battle for the AL ROY

  228. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 1:40 pm

    Blake-

    Tanaka and Darvish are different types of pitchers IMO.

    Both can be super effective in their own ways.

    ;)

  229. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 1:41 pm

    The Yankees could have had Darvish for almost 100 million less in luxury taxable money…..so ironic that one of the main reasons they could get under 189 was because they shut down the spending for 3 years and allowed the club to decline to a point where they had to spend half a billion dollars this winter to compete…….

  230. bigdan22 January 22nd, 2014 at 1:41 pm

    joeman January 22nd, 2014 at 1:35 pm
    Vegas insider says odds dropped from 20/1 to 12/1 with the sign

    ——

    I read a couple ago that the odds were 11/1 or 12/1 before the signing. Same as the Red Sox. Maybe these Vegas guys knew about it first :)

  231. Against All Odds January 22nd, 2014 at 1:41 pm

    Why is it that some people here always want to quell discussion? Speak to the point or ignore it and celebrate, as you wish to.

    ———————

    It’s as if the couple of yrs where they willingly passed on players didn’t happen.

    Missing the PS + lost revenue+ down tv ratings + the RS winning the WS = spending big.

    The same thing happened in 08. Remember Generation Trey was supposed to anchor the rotation for yrs but they missed the PS and spent big.

  232. Jerkface January 22nd, 2014 at 1:41 pm

    what do you make of the fact that Tanaka was actually better in his final 3 seasons in Japan than Darvish was in his final 3 seasons. Darvish appears to have better overall stuff……but just watching the video I’m not sure he has a single secondary pitch as good as Tanaka’s split is……

    I don’t think Tanaka was better than Darvish. Either for whole career or final 3 years or whatever. Darvish was way more overpowering than Tanaka. I think he was clearly a better MLB prospect in his final 3 years. Tanaka has the edge in BB rate and straight ERA but Darvish went deeper into games and struck out guys and suppressed hits and HRs better.

    They are both elite pitchers, and I understand the arguments for someone saying Tanaka was better. The thing I like about both guys is that they were orders of magnitude better than the next guy on the totem pole when it came to their dominance of the leagues. Dice-k, Irabu, and Nomo were not anywhere near as dominant as Yu and Tanaka were compared to their peers.

  233. exiledintampa January 22nd, 2014 at 1:42 pm

    Anthony McCarron?@AnthonyMcCarron2 mins
    So Matsui not only called Tanaka, he appeared in a recruiting video the Yanks showed Tanaka, too.

  234. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 1:42 pm

    And Blake-

    I agree.

    I don’t think Darvish has a single 2ndary pitch as good as MT’s splitter.

    ;)

  235. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 1:42 pm

    MTU,
    agreed…..Darvish has more weapons…..Tanaka might end up producing nearly as well though because I think what he has will play well in MLB

  236. Howler January 22nd, 2014 at 1:43 pm

    Where did the oddsmakers have Toronto and Boston last year?

  237. bigdan22 January 22nd, 2014 at 1:43 pm

    pkyankfan69 January 22nd, 2014 at 1:34 pm

    Does Tanaka win the AL ROY?

    ——

    Nah, that belongs to Nuno. :)

  238. Tackelberry January 22nd, 2014 at 1:43 pm

    I take it Mad Dog Russo is going absolutely bonkers today!

  239. Against All Odds January 22nd, 2014 at 1:43 pm

    Cano didn’t want to return.

    ——————-

    And the Yankees didn’t want him so I guess it was a clean break.

  240. pkyankfan69 January 22nd, 2014 at 1:44 pm

    So Matsui not only called Tanaka, he appeared in a recruiting video the Yanks showed Tanaka, too.
    —–
    Just another reason to love Godzilla

  241. bigdan22 January 22nd, 2014 at 1:44 pm

    exiledintampa January 22nd, 2014 at 1:42 pm
    Anthony McCarron?@AnthonyMcCarron2 mins
    So Matsui not only called Tanaka, he appeared in a recruiting video the Yanks showed Tanaka, too.

    ======

    Are we sure he didn’t send him some videos?

  242. Warning Track Power January 22nd, 2014 at 1:44 pm

    Tackelberry January 22nd, 2014 at 1:43 pm
    I take it Mad Dog Russo is going absolutely bonkers today!
    ————————————————————————————
    I’m looking forward to hearing Michael Kay show later today on ESPN Radio

  243. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 1:45 pm

    Scary good potential in the Yankee rotation.

    Potential for all 3′s and above if things break right.

    That is a pretty big advantage.

    ;)

  244. Jerkface January 22nd, 2014 at 1:46 pm

    I don’t think Darvish has a single 2ndary pitch as good as MT’s splitter.

    Eh, Darvish has a plus plus slider, probably has the same rating as MT’s split.

  245. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 1:47 pm

    I’d like to see just a little more tweaking done to our roster.

    Then I’m ready for battle.

    ;)

  246. joeman January 22nd, 2014 at 1:47 pm

    Mr T

  247. mick January 22nd, 2014 at 1:47 pm

    And the Yankees didn’t want him so I guess it was a clean break.
    =====================
    why do you say that?

  248. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 1:49 pm

    “I don’t think Tanaka was better than Darvish. Either for whole career or final 3 years or whatever. ”

    statistically he was…..I agree that Darvish was and still is the better MLB prospect for various reasons…..but in pure production in Japan it seems like Tanaka was better.

  249. Jerkface January 22nd, 2014 at 1:49 pm

    Tanaka has 3 plus pitches including a plus plus splitter. Darvish has like 3-4 plus pitches including 2 plus plus pitches (fastball and slider). His shuuto, curve, and split all fight for the other plus spots.

    Tanaka cannot compare to Darvish when it comes to pure stuff. What you wanna bet on is that his best pitch happens to be a very deadly one in the majors and his control is plus plus.

  250. Patrick January 22nd, 2014 at 1:49 pm

    Eh, Darvish has a plus plus slider, probably has the same rating as MT’s split.

    And 5 other plus pitches, 2 of which he doesn’t really throw anymore.

  251. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 1:49 pm

    “Eh, Darvish has a plus plus slider, probably has the same rating as MT’s split.”

    his slider is good…..however MLB hitters see a lot more good sliders than they see good splits

  252. Captain Clutch January 22nd, 2014 at 1:50 pm

    @Joelsherman1

    Looking for Tanaka comps: 3 have heard most are Kuroda/prime-age Dan Haren and his split to vintage Bryan Harvey #yankees

  253. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 1:50 pm

    JF-

    I don’t think so.

    MT’s split looks exactly like his FB coming out of his hand.

    Can’t say that about any slider.

    They are both fantastic young arms with incredible ceilings so I guess it doesn’t matter.

    ;)

  254. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 1:51 pm

    It doesn’t seem like Tanaka will have to worry about trimming his pitch tree much either the way Darvish and Dice K had to…..his delivery isn’t the western style as much as Darvish but the way he pitches to me at least coming over from Japan seems maybe more like the MLB style than Darvish was. I mean he’s fastball….slider….split more or less from what I can tell.

  255. MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 1:52 pm

    Time for some celebratory lunch.

    :)

  256. J. Alfred Prufrock January 22nd, 2014 at 1:52 pm

    Against All Odds January 22nd, 2014 at 1:41 pm

    Why is it that some people here always want to quell discussion? Speak to the point or ignore it and celebrate, as you wish to.

    ———————

    It’s as if the couple of yrs where they willingly passed on players didn’t happen.

    Missing the PS + lost revenue+ down tv ratings + the RS winning the WS = spending big.

    The same thing happened in 08. Remember Generation Trey was supposed to anchor the rotation for yrs but they missed the PS and spent big.
    ///

    It’s like in former Soviet Union, when they used to just remove certain pages from the history books:

    Lyublu Lenina!

  257. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 1:52 pm

    I’ve heard who guy who faced Tanaka in Japan compare him to Anibal Sanchez

  258. Patrick January 22nd, 2014 at 1:53 pm

    Baseball America had Darvish with 6 pitches that grade out at 60 or better … insane. As good as Tanaka is, Darvish has basically one of the best scouting reports ever.

  259. UpState January 22nd, 2014 at 1:54 pm

    exiledintampa January 22nd, 2014 at 1:42 pm
    Anthony McCarron?@AnthonyMcCarron2 mins
    So Matsui not only called Tanaka, he appeared in a recruiting video the Yanks showed Tanaka, too.

    =============================

    …and the Matsui Legend continues to build !!!

  260. Captain Clutch January 22nd, 2014 at 1:57 pm

    @JackCurryYES

    We will have lots of Tanaka talk (what else?) on a special edition of Yankees Hot Stove at 6 PM on YES tonight.

  261. UpState January 22nd, 2014 at 1:59 pm

    Bryan Harvey:

    Pitcher who’s been forgotten – but shouldn’t be….

    If Tanaka pitches like the 1991 Harvey model….

    http://www.baseball-reference......br01.shtml

    ….things will surely be fun in the Bronx !!!

  262. Tackelberry January 22nd, 2014 at 1:59 pm

    WOnder when the Tanaka press conference will be. Friday?

  263. blake January 22nd, 2014 at 2:03 pm

    Craig Calcaterra ?@craigcalcaterra 1m
    Me: “The Yankees could use an infielder, perhaps Stephen Drew.” Commenters: “Great, MORE Yankee bashing!” Lol

  264. exiledintampa January 22nd, 2014 at 2:04 pm

    The setting is a locker room meeting before Game 7 of the 2004 ACLS, which the Yankees lost to the Boston Red Sox, who went on to win the World Series. And, scene:

    At the end of the meeting it was traditional for Joe Torre to ask Jorge Posada what we were going to do. He would reply, “Grind it!” This time — I guess to make Hideki Matsui feel more part of the team — Torre turned tohimat the end of the meeting.

    “What are we going to do?”

    Hideki paused for just a second before replying.

    “Kick ass. Pop champagne. And get some ho’s.”

    Read more at http://observer.com/2011/08/hi.....z2r9idj6OJ
    Follow us: @newyorkobserver on Twitter | newyorkobserver on Facebook

  265. Eric in the ATL January 22nd, 2014 at 2:15 pm

    Yanks made fair offer to Cano, but weren’t going 10 years. I’m cool with that. I’m hoping Sizemore will surprise us.

  266. joeman January 22nd, 2014 at 2:24 pm

    MTU January 22nd, 2014 at 1:47 pm
    I’d like to see just a little more tweaking done to our roster.

    Then I’m ready for battle.
    —————————————-
    someone who could close just in case

  267. joeman January 22nd, 2014 at 2:27 pm

    The Sox seem content to open the season with rookie Xander Bogaerts as their starting shortstop. If Drew were to re-sign with the Sox, Bogaerts would then shift to third base.
    —————————————————————-
    then can we have Middlebrooks

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