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Thursday night notes and links: Torre to wear Yankees cap in Cooperstown

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 23, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Joe Torre· Can’t imagine you were too concerned about this, but Joe Torre will officially be wearing a Yankees cap on his Hall of Fame plaque. The Hall announced the cap selections today. The interesting ones are Tony LaRussa and Greg Maddux, who chose to have no logo on their plaques. Of course Tom Glavine and Bobby Cox will be wearing Braves caps, and Frank Thomas will go in with the White Sox.

· With Masahiro Tanaka in the mix, ESPN now ranks the Yankees rotation as the fifth-best in baseball behind the Tigers, Nationals, Cardinals and Red Sox. From David Schoenfield’s breakdown: “Seven years for Tanaka may prove to be a risky proposition, but he’s an excellent bet for 2014. I listed him third, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s the team’s best pitcher from the get-go.”

· Nothing new here, but the Baltimore Sun has a full breakdown of Brian Roberts’ recent interview with the YES Network. Roberts saying that lots of players have dreamed of wearing a Yankees uniform at some point apparently didn’t sit too well in Baltimore.

· Speaking of Baltimore, Dan Connolly tweets that the Orioles might not be quite as close to a deal with Fernando Rodney as previously reported. Connolly says the Orioles have shown interest in Rodney, but the two sides haven’t spoken in weeks. Still seems like the kind of signing that makes some sense.

· Oh, and that deal between the Brewers and Matt Garza, apparently that’s not done yet either. The Brewers themselves actually sent a tweet saying negotiations are ongoing and there is no deal yet. Weird.

· Fanning the flames of the Yankees/Red Sox rivalry, Jonny Gomes played the “scoreboard” card when asked about the Yankees offseason additions. “People can go out and sign whoever they want right now,” Gomes told ESPN Boston. “Boxing rules, we still have the belt. Whoever else, reloads. Kind of flattering a little bit, you know, that [a division] rival has to reload as much as they did.”

· What a weird life Alex Rodriguez lives. Imagine doing something goofy like posing with a mariachi band, only to have a photo hit the internet and become a kind of joke. I would have sat in with that band, especially if I was on vacation! “You fellas know any Dylan? Idiot Wind, on my count. One, two…”

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269 Responses to “Thursday night notes and links: Torre to wear Yankees cap in Cooperstown”

  1. Tidrow January 23rd, 2014 at 10:06 pm

    Jonny Gomes? Why does it seem that the guys that do the least amount of heavy lifting talk the most?

  2. yankeefeminista January 23rd, 2014 at 10:07 pm

    GB7′s puns were so bad they were good. Kind of like some of El Duque’s eephus pitches. GB’s always here in spirit.

    Glad Joe when in with a Yankees cap even though there was a little animosity there at the end of his tenure.

  3. yankeefeminista January 23rd, 2014 at 10:08 pm

    *went in

    luis, I will respond soon. Glad you are safe, and I pray all remains well.

  4. MTU January 23rd, 2014 at 10:10 pm

    YF-

    GB and I shared a love of them and went tete a tete, mano y mano many times.

    He was the King although I did a pretty good job of driving him crazy.

    ;)

  5. yankeefeminista January 23rd, 2014 at 10:11 pm

    Aaron Sanchez @A_Sanch21 6m
    Gary Sanchez and Jorge Soler have serious pop!!
    Retweeted by MiLB.com
    _______
    Um, yeah.

  6. yankeefeminista January 23rd, 2014 at 10:12 pm

    MTU, I remember. :)

    Anyone watching the prospects countdown on mlb net?

  7. NYY fan in NH January 23rd, 2014 at 10:14 pm

    Gomes is a punk.

  8. MTU January 23rd, 2014 at 10:15 pm

    YF-

    It is good that someone does.

    What else marks our existence ?

    :)

  9. yankeefeminista January 23rd, 2014 at 10:16 pm

    “Gomes is a punk.”

    Yep.

  10. MTU January 23rd, 2014 at 10:18 pm

    Time for the night crew to take it away soon.

    I’l join up again for the Breakfast club.

    Now that we have MT in the fold every night brings sweet dreams.

    :)

  11. jlyanks85 January 23rd, 2014 at 10:20 pm

    Who the hell is Johnny Gomes to talk? What because he happened to be on a World Series team where he contributed to maybe 1% of it?

    This isn’t Ortiz or period talking here.

  12. chicken_stanley January 23rd, 2014 at 10:21 pm

    Gomes is a punk

    ————————-

    Do you guys remember a fight in spring training between the Yanks and Rays a few years back? Shelly Duncan went in hard to 2nd base (in response to a Rays player bowling over Cervi the day before if I remember correctly) and the benches cleared. Gomes was in right and came running in with his chest puffed out like he was gonna inflict some serious damage. Mostly a pushy shovy type affair but Duncan pushed Gomes around like he was a little kid. I laugh everytime I think about it. Unfortunately I can’t find any video of it.

  13. luis January 23rd, 2014 at 10:22 pm

    MTU,

    You know what’s ironic? Our medicine schools are top notch… Many doctors I know from here are head of several hospitals in the US… A cousin of mine is already the head anestesiologyst of the Mayo clinic for instance… It is a pity that our mutual friend can’t obtain his MD license… I guess he would need to study all over again… I think he mentioned Panama as a possible destination… But Costa Rica would be my choice if I were him ;)

    YF, looking forward to it! ;)

  14. MTU January 23rd, 2014 at 10:22 pm

    Gomes is just talking smack.

    Let’s see what happens.

    ;)

  15. yankeefeminista January 23rd, 2014 at 10:22 pm

    MTU, little else in the scheme of things. Have a blessed night!

  16. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 23rd, 2014 at 10:23 pm

    I just came up with a new award. It’s the Perspicacity Prediction Award. It goes to the person who guesses the correct number of wins, the earliest. So that person gets double the award. :)

    That means I will be putting dates next to each person’s name. If you change your prediction, I will note the new date next to it.

    So far:

    2014 YANKEE PREDICTION CHART

    1/22 Trisha 95
    1/22 Kelvin 98
    1/22 Poetkiosk 96
    1/22 Rhapsody in Blue 93
    1/23 Tomingeorgia 94
    1/23 JimK 88
    1/23 GregD 94

  17. sar515 January 23rd, 2014 at 10:23 pm

    So…why do I care about what a lifetime .244 has to say about the Yankees/ weaknesses?
    Go shave and learn how to spell your name!

  18. MTU January 23rd, 2014 at 10:23 pm

    Not only that his opinion is about as important as the hind teat on a sow.

    Maybe less.

    ;)

  19. luis January 23rd, 2014 at 10:24 pm

    Good night all

  20. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 23rd, 2014 at 10:24 pm

    In fact, in the name of perspicacity and belief in the team as will be constituted, I am changing my prediction to 101 wins. So I will change the date to today’s date.

  21. chicken_stanley January 23rd, 2014 at 10:25 pm

    ‘ night Luis/Mike

  22. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 23rd, 2014 at 10:26 pm

    2014 YANKEE PREDICTION CHART

    1/23 Trisha 101
    1/22 Kelvin 98
    1/22 Poetkiosk 96
    1/22 Rhapsody in Blue 93
    1/23 Tomingeorgia 94
    1/23 JimK 88
    1/23 GregD 94

  23. MTU January 23rd, 2014 at 10:26 pm

    Luis-

    That very point frustrates me as well.

    If you see him before I do feel free to mention Costa Rica to him.

    :)

  24. yankeefeminista January 23rd, 2014 at 10:26 pm

    luis, sounds good! Night, all!

  25. chicken_stanley January 23rd, 2014 at 10:27 pm

    ‘night YF

  26. yankeefeminista January 23rd, 2014 at 10:28 pm

    luis, agree about the utter unfairness of the licensing RE: jmv. Talk soon!

  27. NYY fan in NH January 23rd, 2014 at 10:31 pm

    Gomes has now eclipsed my top 5 hated Redsox list!

  28. MTU January 23rd, 2014 at 10:31 pm

    Dulce suenos YF.

    :)

  29. MTU January 23rd, 2014 at 10:32 pm

    Adios Luis.

    Cuidado.

    ;)

  30. austinmac January 23rd, 2014 at 10:33 pm

    Trisha,

    I protest the subtle pressure to predict early by posting the dates. :)

  31. MTU January 23rd, 2014 at 10:34 pm

    Gomes has been on my SL ever since he broke Cervelli’s wrist.

  32. Cashmoney January 23rd, 2014 at 10:36 pm

    Rod looks good in a Mariachi band, as much as I dislike him, people should leave him the eff alone. But that’s not the world we live in.

  33. blake January 23rd, 2014 at 10:36 pm

    I’m gonna wait on my prediction.

    Without Drew: 93 wins
    With Drew 161 wins

  34. Tar January 23rd, 2014 at 10:36 pm

    YF

    Thanks for the links on shifting. They were all good articles.

    But what I really want is Chad ( or someone) to do an in depth article on the Yankees defense. Who is in charge of positioning, the scouting end of it, how the pitchers, catcher and infield all get on the same page (signs), shifting etc. I don’t ever remember reading anything in depth about the Yankees and defense. And honestly i don’t hunk they are very good at it.

    I understand it’s not the same thing, but I coached LL for quite a few years. This was a long time ago, we didn’t shift, but we sure did exaggerate positioning. And in the process I know saved a bunch of hits. I had a lot of fun doing it and took pride in it.

    LL is easy because most batters swing late. Maddon is making MLB look like LL by using stats. I find the whole thing fascinating, and wish the Yankees would catch up.

  35. Cashmoney January 23rd, 2014 at 10:37 pm

    Trish, my prediction. 163 wins!

  36. chicken_stanley January 23rd, 2014 at 10:39 pm

    Mike – I didn’t remember it was actually Gomes that hurt Cervi! He just rose another couple of notches on my dislike list

  37. blake January 23rd, 2014 at 10:40 pm

    @NYDNHarper: Yanks’ C Gary Sanchez came in at No. 47 on the http://t.co/R9pHpWupx8 list. Only Yankee prospect in the top 50.

  38. chicken_stanley January 23rd, 2014 at 10:43 pm

    Cash – nice pick! I like your style.

    I’m guessing another AL team is gonna go 162-0 also. The Yankees win #163 in a one game playoff!

  39. Cashmoney January 23rd, 2014 at 10:46 pm

    Chicken, I can never underestimate the brain power of a free range pollo! but yes, that’s the possible scenario. I have put some data in my Zippo projection, Boom, Wisdom!

  40. yankeefeminista January 23rd, 2014 at 10:46 pm

    Elliot Johnson broke Cervelli’s wrist.

    Tar, good luck with that. And you are welcome. FWIW, Yanks however were listed 3rd in shifting on that chart, although they saved 0 runs.

  41. austinmac January 23rd, 2014 at 10:46 pm

    Chicken,

    Since all teams in the same league play each other I am troubled by your scenario. Please revise how the team got to 163-0.

  42. pete2 January 23rd, 2014 at 10:49 pm

    NYY fan in NH January 23rd, 2014 at 10:31 pm

    “Gomes has now eclipsed my top 5 hated Redsox list!”

    Funny how a team with a lot of beards and premature baldies don’t get suspected of juicing. Gomes had a heart attack at a young age, most likely from a coronary artery spasm which can cause sudden death in heavy steroid users.

  43. Ys Guy January 23rd, 2014 at 10:50 pm

    Cashmoney January 23rd, 2014 at 10:36 pm

    Rod looks good in a Mariachi band, as much as I dislike him, people should leave him the eff alone. But that’s not the world we live in.
    ==================================
    im all for leaving arod alone, he isnt a felon or a molester or anything, however, if he’s gonna get dressed up and act like a mariachi musician do you expect other people NOT to take pictures? or people NOT to post them? i mean if you want to be left alone, you dont do stuff like that in public.

    it looks like he was having fun, so good for him, but he can’t expect people to ignore him doing something like that.

  44. Cashmoney January 23rd, 2014 at 10:52 pm

    Ys, I am saying they can blow up NY Post, figuratively.

  45. chicken_stanley January 23rd, 2014 at 10:55 pm

    Since all teams in the same league play each other I am troubled by your scenario. Please revise how the team got to 163-0.

    ———————–

    Geez austinmac – details, details.

    hmmm…. ok got it! The Yankees go 162 -0… an NL team that doesn’t face the Yankees in interleague also goes 162 – 0. Bud Selig (citing the best interest of the game clause) calls for a one game playoff to decide indisputably the best team of all time. The one game playoff, stunningly, coincides with a tribute scheduled by Selig to celebrate his last regular season game as commissioner

  46. Shame Spencer January 23rd, 2014 at 10:55 pm

    Check this out, guys… I’ll be so mad if NPB players get to play in the Olympics. I wanna play in the Olympics!

    @jonmorosi In Sochi, IOC expected to consider baseball’s Olympic reinstatement. My story: http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....ics-012314 … @FOXSports1

    “Baseball and softball were last contested as Olympic sports in 2008, and the IOC voted in September against bringing them back for the 2020 Games in Tokyo. (Wrestling was kept instead.) But the IOC may reconsider that decision because of the revenue possibilities — at the gate and through television ratings — in the baseball-mad host country.

    Tokyo’s local organizing committee is said to be lobbying quietly for new IOC President Thomas Bach to give baseball and softball another hearing. If attendance at the World Baseball Classic is any guide, the Japanese team likely would play before massive crowds in Tokyo; interest would be especially high if Nippon Professional Baseball, the top professional league in Japan, agreed to go on hiatus so the country’s best players could compete.”

  47. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 23rd, 2014 at 10:56 pm

    austin – since I come from the “living on the edge” school of thought, I appreciate people willing to go way out on a limb! I have infinite respect for those who are cautious also. They may end up being right more than those who guess early.

    Also, it doesn’t take reward away from those who guess correctly. It just rewards bravery.

    :D

  48. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 23rd, 2014 at 10:57 pm

    blake – my suggestion is that you get your 93 in now – just in case!

  49. Tar January 23rd, 2014 at 10:58 pm

    “FWIW, Yanks however were listed 3rd in shifting on that chart, although they saved 0 runs.”

    There is something weird about that 2013 chart. It has the Yankees shifting more than the Rays, which doesn’t seem likely to me.

  50. pete2 January 23rd, 2014 at 11:01 pm

    MTU January 23rd, 2014 at 10:22 pm

    “Gomes is just talking smack”.

    I suspect the Red Sox are nervous after the Tanaka signing and feel the need to talk smack. They realize they won’t be as good in 2014, certainly not 97 W, and the Yankees being competitive knock a few more W’s off their totals.

    They will really sweat if Drew is on board. Whats not reported much on Drew is how clutch he was last year for them, especially the last 2 months of the season which helped them pull away from the rest of the AL east.

  51. Cashmoney January 23rd, 2014 at 11:02 pm

    speak softly and carry a big stick

  52. austinmac January 23rd, 2014 at 11:02 pm

    Trisha,

    Always willing to bow to pressure, 92 wins.

  53. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 23rd, 2014 at 11:04 pm

    austin – :)

    Don’t forget, depending on what happens between now and OD, you can change your predictions as many times as you want. Of course, those dates will be duly noted.

  54. pete2 January 23rd, 2014 at 11:04 pm

    Trish, generally don’t like to predict until the roster is set, but given the incentive to do it early, and the fact I feel good Drew will come on board, I am going with 93.

  55. chicken_stanley January 23rd, 2014 at 11:05 pm

    Trisha – I guess put me down for 95

  56. Tar January 23rd, 2014 at 11:07 pm

    Good night everyone

  57. Cashmoney January 23rd, 2014 at 11:07 pm

    when is IOC going embrace pole dancing as an Olympic sports?
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....07430.html

  58. bbb51 January 23rd, 2014 at 11:07 pm

    Well here you go Blake:

    The Yankees are weighing a run at Stephen Drew now that they’ve blown past the luxury tax threshold, according to Jon Heyman of CBS Sports. A person familiar with the team’s thinking told Heyman that a pursuit of Drew would still depend on the price, however. ESPN’s Buster Olney reported the other day that the Yankees weren’t likely to make any major additions following the Tanaka signing.

    I guess if they can get him cheap enough they might.

  59. chicken_stanley January 23rd, 2014 at 11:07 pm

    night Tar

  60. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 23rd, 2014 at 11:07 pm

    pete2, just know that even if you don’t predict early but still get the right number, you still will get reward. The only thing the person who guesses earliest and is correct gets is double reward. So that’s 10 Ritter Sports Bars instead of 5. (I know, amazing reward all around!)

    :)

  61. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 23rd, 2014 at 11:09 pm

    2014 YANKEE PREDICTION CHART

    1/23 Trisha 101
    1/22 Kelvin 98
    1/22 Poetkiosk 96
    1/22 Rhapsody in Blue 93
    1/23 Tomingeorgia 94
    1/23 JimK 88
    1/23 GregD 94
    1/23 Cashmoney 163
    1/23/ Austinmac 92
    1/23 Pete2 93
    1/23 Chicken_stanley 95

  62. bbb51 January 23rd, 2014 at 11:10 pm

    Trisha, I guess I’ll take 97 since no one has taken it yet.

  63. Cashmoney January 23rd, 2014 at 11:10 pm

    I have finally out Trish in optimism :D

  64. FanSince1948 January 23rd, 2014 at 11:12 pm

    Trisha – I’ll go with 91

    FS48

  65. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 23rd, 2014 at 11:13 pm

    bbb51 – you know you can take the same number as someone else. I lucked out last year (only in a “pay up” sense) because only 2 people guessed the correct number. I had some numbers with as many as 8 and 9 people guessing it. I would have had to pay out for all who guessed correctly. So go with your gut, no matter whether anyone has it or not.

  66. tbone1570 January 23rd, 2014 at 11:14 pm

    Cashmoney January 23rd, 2014 at 11:07 pm

    when is IOC going embrace pole dancing as an Olympic sports?

    ***************************

    Why not? They already have dancing horses.

  67. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 23rd, 2014 at 11:15 pm

    Cashmoney – I love seeing your predictions on all charts! They always make me laugh.

    :lol:

  68. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 23rd, 2014 at 11:16 pm

    K guys got everyone’s to this point. I’ll check back in the a.m.

    Night!

  69. Cashmoney January 23rd, 2014 at 11:16 pm

    Night Trish.

  70. Locke January 23rd, 2014 at 11:17 pm

    Trisha, I’d like 91.

    I saw some posting about GB7 today. I never posted back then, but I did appreciate the stuff he would post. I’m glad people still remember him on here.

  71. nettles9nc January 23rd, 2014 at 11:19 pm

    2014 YANKEE PREDICTION: 95

  72. Cashmoney January 23rd, 2014 at 11:23 pm

    I had a lot arguments with GB7 whilst he was on this blog. I said some mean things in the heat of moment to GB7, I do regret that in retrospect. RIP GB7. fundamentally, he was a stubborn but kind human being.

  73. chicken_stanley January 23rd, 2014 at 11:25 pm

    night Trisha

  74. bbb51 January 23rd, 2014 at 11:25 pm

    trisha, in that case I’ll guess 96, it was a good year.

  75. chicken_stanley January 23rd, 2014 at 11:34 pm

    Goodnight all

  76. Cashmoney January 23rd, 2014 at 11:36 pm

    Night Chicken.
    Night all.

  77. UpState January 23rd, 2014 at 11:38 pm

    Tricia

    I’ll shoot at 90.

    (Hopefully – a low shot)

    THX !

  78. pat January 23rd, 2014 at 11:43 pm

    npbtracker
    Tanaka contract perks:$35k for moving expenses, $100k/year for rent, $85k/year for translation, 4 first-class air tix http://www.nikkansports.com/ba.....48084.html

  79. Tabbert January 23rd, 2014 at 11:43 pm

    Am I the last person to find out about Opening Day being played in Australia? That’s pretty awesome. Wish the Yankees were playing, It would give me a reason to finally make the trip. Always wanted to go to Australia. One day.

    Trisha- 91 wins.

  80. UpState January 23rd, 2014 at 11:47 pm

    BALTIMORE ORIOLES :

    Signed left-hander Aaron Laffey to a minor league deal.

    The 28-year-old allowed 10 runs in 12 2/3 innings between the Mets and Blue Jays in 2013.

    He has a career 4.45 ERA with 4.5 K/9 and 3.6 BB/9 in 487 big league innings.

    In Pinstripes for 2011 :

    10 Innings
    13 hits
    6 K’s
    3.78 ERA
    1.668 WHIP

  81. PhiltheThrill January 23rd, 2014 at 11:47 pm

    What happened to GB7?

  82. UpState January 24th, 2014 at 12:00 am

    …sounds as though he passed away…

  83. SilentTear2014 January 24th, 2014 at 1:09 am

    Kenta Maeda: The next big NPB export now that Tanaka has signed?
    By Dayn Perry
    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/e.....has-signed

  84. Can of Corn January 24th, 2014 at 1:29 am

    Apparently GB passed away …………

    Just curious what did he die of ?

  85. UpState January 24th, 2014 at 2:14 am

    SilentTear2014 January 24th, 2014 at 1:09 am
    Kenta Maeda: The next big NPB export now that Tanaka has signed?
    By Dayn Perry
    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/e…..has-signed

    =============================================

    Kenta Maeda

    Pretty sure he’s the ‘next in line’……

  86. mick January 24th, 2014 at 3:43 am

    Idiot wind blowing every time your move your mouth
    Blowing down the backroads heading south
    Idiot wind blowing every time you move your teeth
    You’re an idiot babe
    It’s a wonder that you still know how to breathe

  87. GregD January 24th, 2014 at 5:55 am

    good morning breakfast club…….

  88. Poetkiosk January 24th, 2014 at 5:55 am

    If everything breaks right for the Yankees they are much better than the 5th best team. That’s part of what makes this upcoming season so fascinating.

  89. joeman January 24th, 2014 at 6:05 am

    2014 YANKEE PREDICTION CHART

    1/23 Trisha 101
    1/22 Kelvin 98
    1/22 Poetkiosk 96
    1/22 Rhapsody in Blue 93
    1/23 Tomingeorgia 94
    1/23 JimK 88
    1/23 GregD 94
    ——————————–
    six of those are way to high

  90. joeman January 24th, 2014 at 6:13 am

    right now this team won’t win 90 + games..a add or two and they could

  91. bardos January 24th, 2014 at 6:17 am

    Nothing wrong with having Ryan on board… Remember in his later years, or maybe even middle years, Mickey Mantle always had what they used to call a “caddy”. (Bob Cerv, Jack Reed, Ross Moschitto).

    I reckon Ryan to be Jeter’s caddy in the late innings when the Yankees are ahead, and, that he will prove very valuable in that role. Sure there will be moments when the opposing team ties it up on a blown save and Ryan has to hit in extras, but those moments will be percentage-wise very small.

  92. joeman January 24th, 2014 at 6:17 am

    The Yankees’ signing of Japanese pitcher Masahiro Tanaka has Tony Massarotti thinking they’ll finish ahead of the Red Sox this season.

    “I like what they’ve got going,” Massarotti said on Felger & Mazz on 98.5 The Sports Hub. “I think there going to finish ahead of the Red Sox.”

    C&P…

    So, the Yanks are his pick to win the AL East?

    “I haven’t thought enough about that,” Massarotti said. “I haven’t looked at all the other teams.”

    Still, the addition of Tanaka, 25, a righthander who was 24-0 in Japan last year, and the new-look C.C. Sabathia (“Have you seen those pictures?” Mazz asked in reference to the much more svelte southpaw) have Massarotti definitively stating: “The Yankees will be better than the Red Sox in 2014.”
    —————————————————-

    hear rumors CC is down to 250 lbs

  93. RhapsodyInBlue January 24th, 2014 at 6:18 am

    joeman but you were so off on Arod and Tanaka.

  94. joeman January 24th, 2014 at 6:24 am

    RhapsodyInBlue January 24th, 2014 at 6:18 am
    joeman but you were so off on Arod and Tanaka.
    ————————————————————————-
    wanted them to sign Tanaka but didn’t think they would… always said they I just wish they would buy him out if they could

  95. joeman January 24th, 2014 at 6:24 am

    thats ARod

  96. RhapsodyInBlue January 24th, 2014 at 6:27 am

    But you were on a roll for awhile.

  97. Doreen January 24th, 2014 at 6:35 am

    To those who asked, GB7 passed away last November. During the summer prior, he had either a heart incident or a stroke. He was never specific and didn’t want to dwell on it. He talked about determination to get well. Then, after posting a few times, he disappeared again sometime in August.

  98. GregD January 24th, 2014 at 6:39 am

    Doreen January 24th, 2014 at 6:35 am
    To those who asked, GB7 passed away last November. During the summer prior, he had either a heart incident or a stroke. He was never specific and didn’t want to dwell on it. He talked about determination to get well. Then, after posting a few times, he disappeared again sometime in August.

    —————
    gone but not forgotten…….RIP GB7

  99. austinmac January 24th, 2014 at 6:42 am

    Yep, GB7 was one of a kind. I miss his curmudgeonly ways.

  100. tomingeorgia January 24th, 2014 at 6:46 am

    GB7,
    Comrade in arms, much missed.

  101. upstate kate January 24th, 2014 at 7:01 am

    Good morning!
    GB had a rough exterior, but he was a mush on the inside. I miss him, and think of him frequently.

    Jonny Gomes is a punk. Seriously? What does he think the red sox did last year? Reloaded, just like the Yankees did. He was part of that reloading in fact.

  102. GregD January 24th, 2014 at 7:02 am

    Tom—-are you a vet too?

  103. GregD January 24th, 2014 at 7:03 am

    Every team tries to get better in the off season…..the Yanks have done a good job of it this year….

  104. tomingeorgia January 24th, 2014 at 7:11 am

    GregD,
    GB7 and I were both Green Berets in roughly the same era. Never knew him, although I might have crossed paths with him along the way. I do know his last duty was as a Command Sergeant Major, a rank reserved for only the best of the best.

  105. blake January 24th, 2014 at 7:16 am

    Didn’t know you were a green beret Tom…..it’s a brisk 1 degree here in the hills

  106. tomingeorgia January 24th, 2014 at 7:21 am

    blake,
    I’ve got a balmy 12 degrees here in the heart of Dixie.

  107. GregD January 24th, 2014 at 7:26 am

    Tom—– I too served in that era and I am proud to know you. CSM sure is the ultimate rank…….

  108. GregD January 24th, 2014 at 7:32 am

    It looks like the Yanks are in on a Dominican SS…..Dermis Garcia….supposed to be a top prospect and a July 2 signee

  109. blake January 24th, 2014 at 7:34 am

    4/52 for Garza is a good deal if he’s healthy. That seems like a big if though

  110. Ys Guy January 24th, 2014 at 7:38 am

    ” One friend of Sabathia’s estimated that he has lost 40 pounds, but CC texted me Monday morning and said that he and Amber were laughing at the notion that he trimmed way down.

    “I’m actually the same weight as I was last year, just a little more toned and a lot more strong,” said Sabathia, who has been working with his trainer, T.J. Lopez. “This is the first offseason I was able to weight-train and get stronger and not worry about weight loss.

    from yahoo’s mike oz: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/.....1;mlb.html

  111. jmills January 24th, 2014 at 7:39 am

    Good morning, guys; you all nust be nicely hung over from the Tanaka thing :)

  112. Tar January 24th, 2014 at 7:40 am

    I also think of GB often. I feel proud to have called him my friend,and am lucky to have known and discussed baseball with him. He was a walking encyclopedia. Funny as hell too. Even if this was all just over the Internet, it sure feels real to me.

    Have a good day

  113. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 7:40 am

    Good morning all.

    I think everyone here is well aware of the strong connection Randy and I had to GB.

    He never took himself or anyone else too seriously.

    A trait we both shared.

    He was onry but was kind and caring beneath w a wonderful twisted sense of humor.

    He loved all things music.

    He is survived by his children and his dog “killer”.

    His soul rests comfortably in Heaven.

    I’ll see him again one of these days where we’ll whoop it up once again.

    :)

  114. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 7:41 am

    They’re keeping Ichiro. The investment in Tanaka is significant and they need to get him acclimated to MLB. Ichiro is definitely going to help him make a transition. Ichiro is Tanaka insurance. Ichiro still pulls in revenue from Japanese interest.

    So there you have it.

    Gardner on the clock.

  115. pkyankfan69 January 24th, 2014 at 7:41 am

    Joe Frisaro of MLB.com reports that the Marlins are interested in free agent outfielder Vernon Wells.

    Wells is one of the names the Marlins are considering as they attempt to secure a right-handed bench bat. The 35-year-old was released by the Yankees earlier this month after he hit just .233/.282/.349 with 11 homers over 130 games last year. He could be had at the major league minimum, but might have to settle for a minor league offer at this point of his career.
    —-
    Seems like a good fit… Go Vern!

  116. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 7:42 am

    Greg-

    Sounds like the Yankees might have some “skin” in the game if they get “Dermis”.

    :)

  117. Ys Guy January 24th, 2014 at 7:42 am

    SB Sunday hit the 10 day forcast today and they’re calling for snow! A snowy Super Bowl would be Awesome! and quite likely the last cold-weather Super Bowl ever!

  118. GregD January 24th, 2014 at 7:43 am

    MTU January 24th, 2014 at 7:42 am
    Greg-

    Sounds like the Yankees might have some “skin” in the game if they get “Dermis”.

    :)
    —————–
    :) that’s perfect…..

  119. blake January 24th, 2014 at 7:44 am

    They’re keeping Ichiro. The investment in Tanaka is significant and they need to get him acclimated to MLB. Ichiro is definitely going to help him make a transition. Ichiro is Tanaka insurance. Ichiro still pulls in revenue from Japanese interest.”

    They have Kuroda…..i think they look to trade Ichiro unless they find the right deal for Gardner

  120. jmills January 24th, 2014 at 7:45 am

    Tar, I wouldn’t under estimate mental connections on the internet. I remember GB7 instructing me on ” Sudden ” Sam McDowell at midnight. I won’t give away that San Fran action card. ( Those early seventies cards had some interesting shots )

  121. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 7:46 am

    Kuroda and Ichiro both need to be there. They just put up 175 million dollars and Tanaka is new to the United States. Ichiro stays.

    Gardner will be dealt imo.

    Hopefully some GM out there wants to hump him like some of you guys do.

  122. Ys Guy January 24th, 2014 at 7:46 am

    “helping tanaka adjust” is an even worse reason to keep ichiro than the marketing angle.

    there’s no room on the roster for someone to hold tanaka’s hand.

  123. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 7:47 am

    You’re both wrong.

    Neither is going anywhere.

    Unless GGBG goes for Bailey.

    ;)

  124. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 7:47 am

    Walt Jocketty comes to mind.

    He’s probably offering Phillips’ horrible contract and won’t budge.

  125. Poetkiosk January 24th, 2014 at 7:48 am

    2014 YANKEE PREDICTION CHART

    1/23 Trisha 101
    1/22 Kelvin 98
    1/22 Poetkiosk 96
    1/22 Rhapsody in Blue 93
    1/23 Tomingeorgia 94
    1/23 JimK 88
    1/23 GregD 94
    ——————————–
    six of those are way to high

    ——————————

    For me the contest isn’t about being the most accurate/cautious with the guess – its about throwing caution to the wind and expressing my optimism which remains high. It’s like a happiness meter more than anything else.

    As safe bet would to be go with the predictions, which we all know is around 85-88.

  126. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 7:49 am

    Cashman pulled this same crap with Hughes, held him too long.

  127. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 7:50 am

    Tom-

    Now that I know you were special forces you can’t park in your motorhome out front.

    I’ll just give you the keys to my house.

    :)

  128. jmills January 24th, 2014 at 7:50 am

    YS, I was hoping after Regina gets a NFL team, they could host one of those super events. I wonder if Shania would perform for MTU at half time?

  129. blake January 24th, 2014 at 7:51 am

    “Kuroda and Ichiro both need to be there. They just put up 175 million dollars and Tanaka is new to the United States. Ichiro stays.”

    They didn’t spend 175 million on a guy if they thought he needed Ichiro….I do think it’s still possible that’s Gardner gets moved and in that evernt yea you keep Ichiro……but if Gardner isn’t traded I think Ichiro is pretty useless on this team

  130. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 7:52 am

    Bret-

    The Yankees might have taken Phillips contract at one point but he wanted even more to wave his NTC.

    His greed has cost him a shot at a ring.

    Stupid Man.

    ;)

  131. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 7:52 am

    if Gardner isn’t traded I think Ichiro is pretty useless on this team

    _____________

    Beltran’s playing on bad knees and he’s 37 and contracted for 3 years.

    Ichiro is the only OF on the team other than Beltran who plays a solid RF.

    There’s your reason.

    I’d rather have Kelly Johnson as my 5th OF than Gardner.

  132. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 7:54 am

    YF-

    Thank you for the correction on Gomes.

    I must have confused that collision w another I’d seen of Gomes.

    Anyway, forgive the errant memory of an old Man.

    :(

  133. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 7:55 am

    Bret-

    The Yankees basically love GGBG.

    They are going to part w him easily.

  134. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 7:55 am

    How about Gardner + Robertson for Aroldis Chapman?

  135. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 7:56 am

    ed: aren’t. Damn Freudian slips.

    :(

  136. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 7:56 am

    The Yankees basically love GGBG.

    ____________

    Yeah. Jacoby Ellsbury. 150 million dollars.

  137. jmills January 24th, 2014 at 7:57 am

    MTU, short term memory goes first; I wander around the house looking for pencils that are in my left hand.

  138. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 7:58 am

    Bret-

    Way too much.

    Still left short if D-rob were included.

  139. blake January 24th, 2014 at 7:58 am

    Bret,
    if they keep Gardner then Ichiro is the 5th outfielder…..they’ll just rotate Beltran and Soriano through the DH to keep them both fresh and Ichiro might play like 1 game a week maybe……plus Johnson can play OF.

    I think they try to move as much of Ichiro’s money as they can unless Gardner is traded…..

  140. Poetkiosk January 24th, 2014 at 7:58 am

    So is no one buying the let’s be a speedy team argument with GGBG and Ellsbury?

  141. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 7:59 am

    Bret-

    They compliment each other.

  142. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 7:59 am

    So is no one buying the let’s be a speedy team argument with GGBG and Ellsbury?

    _________

    Total bluff. They’re not hearing strong offers for Gardner. They definitely shopped him. DEFINITELY.

  143. blake January 24th, 2014 at 7:59 am

    Ellsbury replaced Granderson not Gardner…..Beltran replaced Ichiro. They love Gardner…..they’ll only move him if the return is very nice IMO.

  144. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:00 am

    Mills-

    At my age I’m glad if I can still find my pencil(s).

    :)

  145. blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:00 am

    teams have called on Gardner and they have had discussions…..there are no reports that they have actively “shopped” him.

  146. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 8:01 am

    I hate to say this but you don’t spend 150 million dollars on a player to compliment Brett Gardner. You spend it to replace Brett Gardner and so that you don’t have to give him serious money next year. They needed to get a leadoff guy.

  147. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:01 am

    Poet-

    I am.

    ;)

  148. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 8:02 am

    Blake they totally advertised Gardner was on the trade block.

  149. blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:02 am

    “I hate to say this but you don’t spend 150 million dollars on a player to compliment Brett Gardner. You spend it to replace Brett Gardner and so that you don’t have to give him serious money next year. They needed to get a leadoff guy.”

    they spent it as a reaction to losing Cano, because it hurt Boston, and because Granderson left. Basically they need 2/3 of their outfield replaced and he and Beltran were the best options…..the 1/3 they still had was Gardner.

    I think they may trade Gardner but it’ll only be for somebody like Bailey or if they can get a young infielder for him IMO

  150. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 8:03 am

    Ellsbury replaced Gardner as a long term leadoff option and CF option. Beltran replaced Granderson as an RBI guy. Ichiro has not been replaced.

  151. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:03 am

    Bret-

    perhaps JE is insurance in case they can’t sign GGBG ?

    Or in case they do want to trade him ?

    I also think they’re fine keeping him.

    The return would have to be quite good for them to move him.

    A Bailey would do it.

  152. blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:04 am

    “Blake they totally advertised Gardner was on the trade block.”

    no….Cashman said he’s gotten a lot of calls on him and he’s talked to teams but that he’s not shopping him. Semantics…..but I think it’s more a situation that they’ll trade him if the perfect deal comes along……you seem to think they are motivated to trade him either way.

  153. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 8:04 am

    Blake you clung to Hughes just like this. And I fear Cashman is doing the same. Get something now. He’s not in the long term plans, especially with Ellsbury here.

  154. blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:04 am

    “Ichiro has not been replaced.”

    cause he’s a 5th outfielder……you don’t have to replace him. He stinks

  155. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 8:05 am

    I know what you’re thinking – that they will re-sign Gardner after 2014. You thought the exact same thing about Hughes.

  156. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:06 am

    Bret-

    Get who ?

    Bailey ? Sure.

    Other examples please ?

  157. blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:06 am

    “Blake you clung to Hughes just like this. And I fear Cashman is doing the same. Get something now. He’s not in the long term plans, especially with Ellsbury here.”

    I’m not opposed to trading Gardner…..I actually said they should have traded Hughes in July if they could get anything for him……I’m just not giving Gardner away though because he’s worth 3 or 4 wins to the Yankees in 2014 and they can get a draft pick for him perhaps after the season. If a deal makes sense then I’d move him……but otherwise I’d keep him and have the best defensive OF in the league.

  158. GregD January 24th, 2014 at 8:07 am

    I don’t think we trade Gardner……trading him and replacing him with Ichiro would be a big downgrade…….Ichiro is nearly finished………..

  159. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 8:07 am

    They need to sign Colby Rasmus. Ellsbury is your table-setter. Get another RBI guy in there. Rasmus is younger than Gardner and superior.

  160. jmills January 24th, 2014 at 8:08 am

    MTU, you certainly have the mind of a young pup ( compliment ). The internet can be a nice cerebral meeting place, void of cosmetic and chronological references.

  161. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:08 am

    Bret-

    If GGBG somehow has the same kind of miserable season as Hughes did in his walk year then I’d say
    you would be right.

    Otherwise the OF market for next season is quite thin I think.

  162. blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:08 am

    “I know what you’re thinking – that they will re-sign Gardner after 2014. You thought the exact same thing about Hughes.”

    I think they likely let Gardner walk after this season…..but he has value this season and if the trade value doesn’t exceed the value he has in 2014 to the Yankees then you keep him.

    If they can get Homer Bailey for him…..do it…..if they can get Franklin…..do it…..but I’m not just trading him just because……

  163. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:09 am

    Blake-

    Same here.

    You’re voted off the Island Bret.

    :)

  164. blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:10 am

    “I don’t think we trade Gardner……trading him and replacing him with Ichiro would be a big downgrade…….Ichiro is nearly finished………..”

    the upgrade elsewhere from the trade would have to warrant the downgrade from Gardner to Ichiro to make it make sense. I think if they could get Bailey then that would be worthwhile……I’d rather have Bailey in the rotation over Pineda or Phelps than Gardner in the outfield over Ichiro……but it has to be something like that.

  165. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:10 am

    Another X factor is what our Farm guys do this year ?

    Particularly Heathcott.

  166. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 8:11 am

    Cashman wanted too much for Hughes. He wasn’t willing to take a loss despite a clear signal from all GM’s who didn’t meet Cashman’s demands.

    Same thing with Gardner.

    Colby Rasmus needs to be your LF/backup CF of the future.

    He’s younger than Gardner and has a sweet lefty power stroke for YS.

  167. Poetkiosk January 24th, 2014 at 8:11 am

    I would enjoy watching Gardner and Ellsbury. I am so tired of waiting for the long ball. Let’s make some runs out of nothing!

  168. blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:11 am

    if they moved Gardner then I would just play Soriano in LF, Ellsbury in CF, and Beltran in RF as my primary OF with Ichiro giving Soriano and Beltran DH days a couple games a week. The problem with this is then you have no DH…..right now Soriano is the primary DH. You’d no longer have a primary DH…..maybe they could get Morales cheap to fill that……

  169. GregD January 24th, 2014 at 8:12 am

    blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:10 am
    “I don’t think we trade Gardner……trading him and replacing him with Ichiro would be a big downgrade…….Ichiro is nearly finished………..”

    the upgrade elsewhere from the trade would have to warrant the downgrade from Gardner to Ichiro to make it make sense. I think if they could get Bailey then that would be worthwhile……I’d rather have Bailey in the rotation over Pineda or Phelps than Gardner in the outfield over Ichiro……but it has to be something like that.
    —————————–
    I agree…..I just don’t see that happening…..we’re not getting Bailey for Gardner and I also think we don’t push another OF position to depend upon another 37+ year old…….

  170. blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:13 am

    actually if they traded Gardner my hope would be that Heathcott is ready by June to come up and give you 70% of Gardner. It’s possible if he can stay healthy for 5 minutes……big if.

  171. jmills January 24th, 2014 at 8:13 am

    I better find my glove if Colby is leaving.

  172. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 8:13 am

    right now Soriano is the primary DH

    __________

    Mistake! Beltran’s knees have to hold up for 3 f’n years!

  173. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:13 am

    This is the current list of 2014 FA OF’ers :

    Jeff Baker (33)
    Brennan Boesch (29)
    Sam Fuld (32)
    Reed Johnson (37)
    Laynce Nix (33)
    Juan Pierre (36)
    Derrick Robinson (26)

    Center Fielders

    Rick Ankiel (34)
    Andres Torres (36)
    Dewayne Wise (36)

    Right Fielders

    Jeff Baker (33)
    Roger Bernadina (30)
    Brennan Boesch (29)
    Nelson Cruz (33)
    Vernon Wells (35)

    Pretty dismal.

    :(

  174. blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:14 am

    Have we signed Drew yet?

  175. blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:15 am

    “Mistake! Beltran’s knees have to hold up for 3 f’n years!”

    well on paper I would say Soriano is the primary DH right now…..but that doesn’t mean he will DH every game. Beltran and Jeter both will get a lot of DH days I think.

  176. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:15 am

    Blake-

    You didn’t need to be Sherlock Holmes to see that Heathcott would always be an injury risk.

    ;)

  177. blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:16 am

    Patrick Borzi ?@BorzMN 8h
    Phil Hughes on leaving NY: “It was nice to get out of town…Everyone here has been nice to me. It’ll take a little getting used to.”

  178. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 8:16 am

    Oh JESUS!! Colby Rasmus isn’t a free agent until 2015.

  179. blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:16 am

    MTU,

    yea but similar skillset to Gardner…..more power….probably less on base ability but can fly and is a good defender.

  180. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:17 am

    We need more youth.

    ;)

  181. jmills January 24th, 2014 at 8:17 am

    Too bad the name’s not, Heathcliffe. Kate Bush could sing that Heights song at every seventh inning stretch. That would show, Boston.

  182. GregD January 24th, 2014 at 8:18 am

    I think Soriano and Beltran will have to split OF duties to keep them both healthy

  183. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:18 am

    Blake-

    Question for ya’ ?

    You’ve seen McCann way more than me.

    My impression of his D is that other than maybe “framing” and game calling he isn’t all that.

    Your take ?

  184. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 8:19 am

    Looking at that free agent class of OF, Gardner is going to get way overpaid.

    That’s why Ellsbury is here. The Yankees don’t want to be the team to overpay Gardner.

    I would definitely offer him a qualifying offer. So any trade offer has to reflect the value of a draft pick or better.

  185. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 8:21 am

    You’re voted off the Island Bret.
    ——————-
    What island. I want to join you it’s 0 with the wind chill here!

    Miss GB. One of my first posts on the blog got ripped to shreds by him, but it didn’t take me long to realize that he was a great guy. Only wish I had the chance to meet him.

    What’s a gomes?

    Congrats to Sanchez and Williams-mLB list of top prospects. The list, which was officially revealed on MLB.com and MLB Network on Thursday night, slots Sanchez as the game’s No. 47 prospect. Williams is ranked at No. 75 on the list.

  186. blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:21 am

    MTU,
    McCann doesn’t throw well…..I mean he’s not terrible but he’s a below average thrower. He’s above average at the rest of catching IMO…..great with staffs….great at receiving…..a field general……I called him a country boy Posada in the past and I think he’s from that mold…..he’s a better catcher than Jorge was defensively to me though. Yankee fans gonna love him.

  187. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:21 am

    Blake-

    This is Heathcott’s year to break out.

    He needs to do it.

    You’re right about his skill set.

    Austin, Flores, or Williams also need to progress.

  188. Poetkiosk January 24th, 2014 at 8:22 am

    We need more youth.
    —-

    We really really do. I just am shocked that we havent heard about heads rolling in the evaluation department.

    How did we get so bad at judging young talent?

  189. Ys Guy January 24th, 2014 at 8:23 am

    ichiro suzuki, 5th outfielder and 3rd handholder for tanaka. yeah that’s worth $6M and a roster spot! :roll:

  190. blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:23 am

    “That’s why Ellsbury is here. The Yankees don’t want to be the team to overpay Gardner.”

    I think Ellsbury is here because they needed 3 long term outfielders and he’s one…..I think the current plan is to hope he can man CF for the next 3 or 4 years and then hope the OF prospects they have develop to fill around him and then Beltran later on…….

  191. macintosh January 24th, 2014 at 8:23 am

    “I think everyone here is well aware of the strong connection Randy and I had to GB.

    He never took himself or anyone else too seriously.

    A trait we both shared.

    He was onry but was kind and caring beneath w a wonderful twisted sense of humor.”

    mtu-

    gb7 was irreverent, brutally honest, direct,and funny. authentic. the real deal.

    we agreed on almost nothing, but had a great time doing it.

  192. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:23 am

    Blake-

    How bout his blocking skills ?

    W guys like we have they are going to be critical.

  193. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 8:23 am

    Maybe we just have a system of late bloomers and ugly ducklings.

  194. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:24 am

    Good morning YT.

    60 here today. I’m going cycling.

    :)

  195. NYYanksFan January 24th, 2014 at 8:24 am

    They need Gardner and Ellsbury in front of Jeter to stay out of double plays.

  196. AAA January 24th, 2014 at 8:27 am

    “That’s why Ellsbury is here. The Yankees don’t want to be the team to overpay Gardner.”\

    =============================

    So they overpaid Ellsbury so as not to overpay Gardner?

  197. blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:27 am

    MTU,
    I’d say average at blocking balls….I think his best attributes as a catcher are receiving, handling the staffs, and dropping bombs!

  198. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:27 am

    Poet-

    Newman and his staff should have been reading want ads long ago.

    Despite their protestations to the contrary I just don’t think the Yankees care all that much about
    development.

    If they did they would be putting everything into making themselves the very best at it.

    They haven’t even come close.

    They like buying what they want.

  199. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 8:28 am

    MTU

    This article on Brian McCann concerns his defense and is a very good read.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/sweets.....value-on-d

    Thoughts?

  200. blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:28 am

    Ellsbury’s contract is the worst one the Yankees have ever given out at the time it was given IMO…..so yea I don’t think they went there because of Brett Gardner……

  201. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 8:29 am

    I know my morning is going to be a good one when I see the name ‘upstate kate’ in the comments section!!

    Morning all. Did you guys see my post from last night about the Olympics? Get MLB to the Olympics in Tokyo!!

  202. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:30 am

    Blake-

    That might be a problem w guys like Tanaka and Kuroda.

    Catcher is going to have to have excellent blocking skills with their stuff.

    Also not crazy about the sub-par arm.

    Puts more pressure on the Pitcher to hold runners.

  203. blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:31 am

    Trader,
    yea that article lines up pretty well with what I’ve seen…..he’s not a great thrower but does everything else either to an acceptable level or very well. The Yanks won 4 titles with a catcher that couldn’t throw but could hit…..and McCann is a better receiver than Jorge was.

  204. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 8:31 am

    So they overpaid Ellsbury so as not to overpay Gardner?

    ————-

    Lol, I’m stoked about Ellsbury’s skill set. Definitely an exciting player. But that is an ugly, ugly deal.

    McCann is the one that I think will be most productive for his cost. I think he ends up being a huge addition.

  205. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 8:31 am

    From the above article:

    Moreover, defining McCann’s value on defense only by his caught-stealing rate would be a mistake because it ignores McCann’s effectiveness at containing damage on loose balls around home plate. While the distinction between a passed ball and a wild pitch might be a near-nightly cause for debate in the press box, analyst Matt Klaasen has been tracking the impact of pitch blocking plays since 2008, and had McCann in the positive at 0.8 runs. FanGraphs has developed a runs metric for evaluating value blocking pitchers (RPP); they had McCann tied for fourth in the majors last year at 3.5 runs above average, outperforming the all-world reps of Matt Wieters (3.4) and Molina (2.0).

  206. blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:32 am

    MTU,

    oh I don’t think he’ll have any problem with Kuroda or Tanaka…..he blocks the ball fine….I wouldn’t say at an elite level or anything but he’s fine defensively other than his throwing……and it just so happens that the best base stealer in the AL east is now on his team !

  207. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:33 am

    Apple-

    I think we both enjoyed playing w GB immensely.

    I know I did.

    Our comedic routines about the Nurse were hysterical.

    GB had a knowledge like the Brittanica when it came to baseball.

    His stories and MiLB reports were priceless.

  208. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 8:33 am

    So they overpaid Ellsbury so as not to overpay Gardner?

    ___________

    Who would you rather overpay to play CF and lead off?

  209. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 8:34 am

    It’s an easy choice, given the scarcity of CF, leadoff hitters. I’ll take the best one.

  210. blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:34 am

    Ellsbury could be worth that money if he could ever stay healthy. He’s dynamic if he is actually on the field…..the problem for me is giving 153 million bucks to a guy that’s averaged 108 games played in his career…….now we can say they were “hustle injuries” or whatever…..but they are still injuries and some guys just get hurt a lot. A lot of players hustle and don’t get hurt…….staying healthy is a genetic skill IMO ….some guys can…..some guys can’t.

  211. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 8:35 am

    Blake-

    Now if Greg Maddux were still with the Braves two seasons ago, he probably would insist on David Ross being his catcher. He didn’t care about the catchers offensive skills. He wouldn’t have Javy Lopez catch him, unless it was a playoff game.

  212. blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:35 am

    The Yankees overpaid everyone this offseason…..so it’s fine……well everyone except Cano that is.

  213. jmills January 24th, 2014 at 8:36 am

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BW3gKKiTvjs

    With Heatcott in the lineup, your new stretch song. Have a great day, everybody.

  214. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:36 am

    YT-

    Thanks. That pretty much puts any concerns I had to rest.

    :)

  215. blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:36 am

    “Now if Greg Maddux were still with the Braves two seasons ago, he probably would insist on David Ross being his catcher. He didn’t care about the catchers offensive skills. He wouldn’t have Javy Lopez catch him, unless it was a playoff game.”

    maybe….but when you give up 0 or 1 runs you can pick your catcher :)

  216. austinmac January 24th, 2014 at 8:37 am

    We literally had .10 inches of ice and snow last night and schools and government are closed. I’m guessing it is handled a bit better elsewhere.

  217. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 8:37 am

    The Mariners offered more for Ellsbury.

    The Mariners offered more for Cano.

    Some team would have offered more for McCann.

    The Royals offered more for Beltran.

    The Cubs offered similar money for Tanaka.

    That’s the market.

    “Overpaying” is not overpaying if the market offers all jibe together. The Yankees didn’t break any new ground here.

    The Mariners seem like the only team that really defied the market and paid over market offers.

  218. AAA January 24th, 2014 at 8:38 am

    It’s an easy choice, given the scarcity of CF, leadoff hitters. I’ll take the best one.

    ======================================

    Best one available doesn’t = best one. He’s not close to the best CF or leadoff hitter. He’s only paid like it. They could have handled things better and had Cano, McCann, and Tanaka and been a better team for similar money, IMO.

  219. AAA January 24th, 2014 at 8:39 am

    The Mariners offered more for Ellsbury.

    ===================

    Absolutely ZERO evidence of this. None.

  220. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 8:39 am

    Well, best or not best, the Yankees don’t need a CF leadoff hitter now.

  221. blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:39 am

    “The Mariners offered more for Ellsbury.”

    link? I don’t think they went to 153

  222. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:39 am

    Who’s better. Romine or Murphy ?

    If you had to keep only one which one is it ?

    Tell me what you base that on ?

  223. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:40 am

    Mac-

    The solution.

    Go to Franklin’s and have some BBQ and a brew. That ought to warm you up.

    ;)

  224. AAA January 24th, 2014 at 8:41 am

    Well, best or not best, the Yankees don’t need a CF leadoff hitter now.

    =============================

    Didn’t need one before free agency either.

  225. blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:41 am

    I don’t think anyone was going close to 153 for Ellsbury…..and the reports were that the Yankees separated themselves on Tanaka when they went to 7 years. Beltran was probably market value and McCann may or may not have been…..I dont think anyone else was at 85 though for him or he wouldn’t have signed so early……

    the point is that the Yanks were willing to go that extra mile for everyone they wanted……everyone except Robbie Cano who they set a firm limit on and wouldn’t budge……thats interesting to me given that he was the best player on the market this winter.

  226. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 8:42 am

    It was a rumor. The rumor was the Mariners offered 8 years to Ellsbury. They gave Cano 10. They were supposedly in on Tanaka. I wouldn’t be surprised.

    Anyways, I’m happy with the Ellsbury contract. Gardner is a poor man’s Jacoby Ellsbury and we’re a rich team.

  227. 86w183 January 24th, 2014 at 8:42 am

    Good morning all —-

    blake —- I beg to differ —-

    The worst contract the Yanks ever signed (at the time of the signing) was the renegotiated A-Rod deal Guaranteeing $ 275 M to a guy who was already 32.

    Virtually everyone agreed it might be worth the $$$ for the first five years but would be a nine-figure albatross after that.

  228. AAA January 24th, 2014 at 8:43 am

    link? I don’t think they went to 153

    ============================

    No indication any offer was made at all.

  229. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:43 am

    Blake-

    “thats interesting to me given that he was the best player on the market this winter.”

    I think it was the length of the contract and his age.

  230. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:45 am

    86-

    I think that contract caused a change in direction and a re-evaluation of policy.

    As it should have.

    I think we saw the 1st example with Robbie.

  231. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 8:45 am

    @Ken_Rosenthal

    Drew would fit well with #Yankees, but sources say team essentially has reached spending limit. That could change, but more likely move…

    @Ken_Rosenthal

    …would be an exchange of salaries in a trade – say, Ichiro ($6.5M) for a comparably priced reliever. Drew remains logical target for #Mets.

  232. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 8:46 am

    How about trading Gardner’s 5.6 M to make room for Drew?

  233. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 8:47 am

    Also, McCann had surgery on his right shoulder in October 2012. While this article states that it didn’t affect his throwing, I would think that it must have affected it somewhat.

    The surgeon, who is an excellent shoulder specialist, found a larger tear than expected .

    http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-b.....r-surgery/

  234. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 8:47 am

    #Yankees, but sources say team essentially has reached spending limit.

    ____________

    :lol:

    You got me there, Hal.

  235. blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:47 am

    “The worst contract the Yanks ever signed (at the time of the signing) was the renegotiated A-Rod deal Guaranteeing $ 275 M to a guy who was already 32.”

    not to me……at least Alex was the best player in baseball when he signed that deal. Remember that Arod in 2007 wasn’t Arod now……no steroid allegations…..never been hurt…..coming off a 10 WAR season etc. He was going to be the guy to break all the records…..to bring honor back to the HR record from Barry Bonds….and he was going to do it in pinstripes. He carried the Yankees to the playoffs on his back right before signing that deal……that was the narrative when the contract was signed……none of what’s happened since matters because it’s hindsight…..when the deal was signed it was a lot better than 153 million for a guy that’s averaged 108 games in his career IMO.

  236. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:47 am

    Ichiro for Putz ?

    :)

  237. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 8:48 am

    But why can’t MLB go to the Olympics?! Tanaka will be sad his friends from NPB get to play and he can’t!

    No one likes a sad Tanaka.

  238. AAA January 24th, 2014 at 8:48 am

    How about trading Gardner’s 5.6 M to make room for Drew?

    =================================

    Presumes you’re not taking salary back in a Gardner deal, doesn’t it?

  239. AAA January 24th, 2014 at 8:49 am

    But why can’t MLB go to the Olympics?! Tanaka will be sad his friends from NPB get to play and he can’t!

    ========================================

    I don’t like the idea of stopping the season or playing thru without key players (if that’s a consideration). I hate it in hockey and think I would hate it more in baseball.

  240. blake January 24th, 2014 at 8:50 am

    Spending half a billion dollars only to leave yourself with the worst defensive infield in baseball doesn’t make a lot of sense…..penny wise….pound foolish. Get Drew…..go for it…..you’ve already busted through 189 and lost all the draft picks……finish the job.

  241. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:50 am

    Ichiro + Claiborne/Whitley for Putz.

    ;)

  242. macintosh January 24th, 2014 at 8:50 am

    “…I called him a country boy Posada in the past and I think he’s from that mold…..he’s a better catcher than Jorge was defensively to me though. Yankee fans gonna love him.”

    the problem with this evaluation is that at age 28 and 29 posada had a .943OPS and a .838OPS
    maccann had a .698OPS and a .796OPS

    there’s like a 100 points of OPS difference between the two players in those years.

    posada had a remarkable 10 season run from age thirty right through to the end of his career.

    mccaan seems to be trending down already.

    posada caught 142 and 131 games at age 28 and 29
    mccann caught 114 and 92 games at age 28 and 29

    i just don’t see the comparison to posada.
    mccann could have a nice little 3-4 year run with the yankees, but i think he needs to be looked at as himself.

    i think any comparison to posada will leave mccaan lacking.
    i think maccan’s value is how much better than stewart he is.
    in that comparison , he’s obviously a huge upgrade.

  243. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:51 am

    Blake-

    I like your argument.

    :)

  244. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 8:51 am

    only to leave yourself with the worst defensive infield in baseball

    ___________

    Get 4 time gold glover Brandon Phillips…..go for it…..you’ve already busted through 189 and lost all the draft picks…..finish the job.

  245. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 8:52 am

    Shame

    MTU noted that JJ Putz is 6M reliever , close to Ichiro’s 6.5M.

    However I don’t think he’s a fit on the Yankees. What is Joe going to call him?

    PUTZY

  246. Chambliss January 24th, 2014 at 8:53 am

    Trisha-I will take 89 wins.

    As for Gardner, I hate to say this but they need to keep him in case Ellsbury gets hurt. I would rather see Ichiro moved, even if they have to give him away.

  247. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:53 am

    Thank you for pointing that out for me YT.

    ;)

  248. 86w183 January 24th, 2014 at 8:54 am

    The Olympics dropped baseball.

    You might want to drop the discussion

  249. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 8:54 am

    Macintosh

    Are you comparing him during the years he was dealing with a torn labrum in his right shoulder?

    I enclosed an article a few minutes ago on his surgery and how it affected his offense.

  250. austinmac January 24th, 2014 at 8:55 am

    I think we evaluate contracts by use of past numbers. Yesterday is gone. I would rather pay Ellsbury than Choo who has never been in an all star game.

    All contracts are ridiculous, but as Hal said the market value is what someone will pay. To win, you have to outbid the others. Finishing second for a free agent gets nothing.

    I’m glad we have Ellsbury. He will make the team better.

  251. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 8:58 am

    Yes indeed austinmac.

    I think people see market prices and automatically think “overpay” but if all teams are willing to pay those similar prices, the majority defines the figures as the real market.

    The one exception is Cano.

  252. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 8:58 am

    86w183 January 24th, 2014 at 8:54 am

    The Olympics dropped baseball.

    You might want to drop the discussion

    ————–

    Unnecessary rudeness – the ICO is considering reinstating it for 2020, I posted a link last night that’s in this thread.

  253. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 8:58 am

    IOC*

  254. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 8:59 am

    Speaking of relievers.

    The A’s have amassed quite a stockpile this OS.

    Beane is known to like to trade and flip assets.

    Do they have anyone we might want and who he might be willing to deal ?

    Same question in respect to the Dodgers ?

  255. pkyankfan69 January 24th, 2014 at 8:59 am

    SPN’s Buster Olney hears that the Yankees “are still not weighing a run” at Stephen Drew.
    CBS Sports’ Jon Heyman reported Thursday that Drew is “one free agent the Yankees are at least weighing,” but Olney is hearing otherwise. FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal has also heard that Drew signing with the Yanks isn’t likely. The club has spent a boatload of money this offseason but is currently slated to go into the year with Brian Roberts at second base and Kelly Johnson at third. Drew would likely start at second and offer protection at shortstop if Derek Jeter isn’t healthy.

  256. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 8:59 am

    AAA – I hate the WBC.. I’d rather they stop the games to play in the Olympics than take 5 days off for the ASB, which is a giant waste of time.

  257. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 9:00 am

    MTU,

    Thought about the A’s but they lost Balfour.

    I think a realistic closer target is Huston Street. They signed Benoit and don’t really have a team built to win anytime soon.

  258. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 9:01 am

    Ellsbury is a better base-stealer than Gardner and doesn’t slide head first. One problem is that Jeter, when he was healthy, was amongst the leaders in hitting into double plays, and I can’t remember the source. If Jeter is still a wiz with the bat, if Ellsbury is on first, I think that he will help Jeter cut down on DPs, because he’ll probably already be on second. :)

  259. 86w183 January 24th, 2014 at 9:01 am

    blake —-

    How can you rip the Elsbury contract while at the same time pleading for Stephen Drew on a daily basis???

    In the last three years Ellsbury has played in 366 games. Drew has played in 289.

    Ellsbury missed almost all of 2010 and half of 2102. His other four full seasons he averaged 147.5 games. Two collisions do not make a player “injury prone”

  260. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 9:02 am

    Batter up ——–>

  261. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 9:03 am

    PUTZY

    ———-

    That’d be fun!

  262. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 9:03 am

    In the last three years Ellsbury has played in 366 games. Drew has played in 289.

    ————–

    Drew is probably only going to cost $6-8 million per year on a short term deal. Apples and oranges.

  263. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 9:05 am

    The A’s also signed Eric O’Flaherty two days ago. He is recuperating fro TJ last May and they are planning a May or June return. I wonder if that 2 year 6M contract is guaranteed?

  264. blake January 24th, 2014 at 9:05 am

    “the problem with this evaluation is that at age 28 and 29 posada had a .943OPS and a .838OPS
    maccann had a .698OPS and a .796OPS”

    McCann was hurt those years…..I don’t think cherry picking 2 seasons really disproves the comp. Guess it depends on if McCann can bounce back and age like Jorge did…..but they are similar guys skill wise IMO

    McCann through age 29: .277 .350 .473 .823
    Posada through age 29: .268 .369 .465 .834

    of course Jorge kinda was a late bloomer and really had a great run in his 30′s…..but they are similar to me…..I hope McCann can do what Jorge did.

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