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Captain obvious: Jeter’s onboard with the Tanaka signing

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From our friends in the AP down in Tampa…

Derek JeterTAMPA, Fla. (AP) — Yankees captain Derek Jeter says Japanese pitcher Masahiro Tanaka provides a huge boost to New York’s rotation.

After going 24-0 in Japan’s Pacific League last season, Tanaka agreed this week to a $155 million, seven-year contract with New York.

“The game is pitching,” Jeter said Friday at the Yankees’ minor league complex. “If you have great pitching, you always have an opportunity to win. From everything I’ve heard, he’s going to be quite an addition to our team.”

Tanaka was 99-35 with a 2.30 ERA in seven seasons with the Rakuten Golden Eagles, striking out 1,238 in 1,315 innings. He joins a rotation that includes CC Sabathia, Hiroki Kuroda and Ivan Nova.

Following just the second season in 19 years that didn’t include a playoff appearance, the Yankees also agreed to deals during the offseason with catcher Brian McCann ($85 million for five years) and outfielders Jacoby Ellsbury ($153 million for seven) and Carlos Beltran ($45 million for three).

“Our team has been known to make financial commitments to a lot of people throughout the course of the year,” Jeter said. “Any time you have ownership that’s willing to spend money and trying to do whatever they can to make the team better, it feels good for us as players.”

The 39-year-old Jeter finished his first week of on-field work, which included hitting off a tee in a batting cage and fielding grounders on the grass in front of the infield dirt. He said he feels good.

After breaking an ankle during the 2012 playoffs, Jeter limited to 17 games last year when he was slowed by injuries to his right quadriceps and calf. He hit .190 (12 for 63) with one homer and seven RBIs.

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150 Responses to “Captain obvious: Jeter’s onboard with the Tanaka signing”

  1. blake January 24th, 2014 at 2:11 pm

    I really think the Yankees are risking all this money they have spent with a giant gamble if they don’t address their infield……why spend all that money and leave such a hole?

  2. Sweet Swinging Cano January 24th, 2014 at 2:14 pm

    They should just sign Drew. I really don’t think there was ever a huge upgrade in the infield.

  3. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 2:28 pm

    Captain obvious: Jeter’s onboard with the Tanaka signing

    *******

    gosh – it would be awkward if he wasn’t

  4. Jerkface January 24th, 2014 at 2:29 pm

    Not sure how the Tanaka opt out worx. The Yanks would still have control of him until he has six years MLB service time, wouldn’t they?

    No, the opt out is a free agency clause wherein the player opts out of their contract and the team is not allowed to tender an offer or go to arbitration.

  5. Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 2:29 pm

    And I agree that he is part of the same old same old and will not be missed as bad as some think. Just think, it has only been about a month since he left and most, if not all, have moved on to Tanaka.

    ———————

    Go on the YES board. They absolutely hate Cano but can’t stop talking about him. There’s a thread stating what number should Tanaka wear and some members in there said give him 24.

  6. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 2:30 pm

    There’s a thread stating what number should Tanaka wear and some members in there said give him 24.

    *****

    well that’s just sad

  7. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 2:31 pm

    So if you sign Drew – do you put him at 2b or 3b?

  8. Sweet Swinging Cano January 24th, 2014 at 2:32 pm

    3b. at this point, you throw out the traditional this guy needs to hit like this, to play there notion.

  9. UpState January 24th, 2014 at 2:34 pm

    Money – Schmoney.

    Cano wante to play with his long-lost buddy….. Montero.

    (couldn’t find idiot Melky…..could’ve just checked with Bosch)

  10. blake January 24th, 2014 at 2:35 pm

    “So if you sign Drew – do you put him at 2b or 3b?”

    ideally I’d put him at SS and move Jeter to 3B…..but if that’s not happening then I’d play Drew at 3B initially and hope Roberts can stay healthy at 2B

  11. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 2:35 pm

    Money – Schmoney

    why didn’t i think of that screen name.

  12. UpState January 24th, 2014 at 2:36 pm

    Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 2:35 pm
    Money – Schmoney

    why didn’t i think of that screen name.
    ==============================

    Mel Brooks already had it.

  13. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    Yeah – there is now downside to signing Drew to a three of four year deal – if he can remain healthy

    next year they could go after one of the three switch hitting 3b – sandoval or headley

    and could you convince asdrubal to play 2b (probably the pie in the sky of the three)

  14. Sweet Swinging Cano January 24th, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    Anyone worried about the pen? I’m not really. A little bit but not majorly concerned.

  15. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 2:39 pm

    Mel Brooks already had it.

    ****

    but why didn’t i use it – that’s my dilemma

  16. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 2:41 pm

    Baseball America’s Matt Eddy reports (via Twitter) that the Cubs have inked first baseman Lars Anderson to a minor league deal. The former Red Sox top prospect spent 2013 in the White Sox organization but batted just .194/.302/.251 before being released.

    the prodigal son has returned to Theo

  17. bigdan22 January 24th, 2014 at 2:42 pm

    Signing Drew and having him play 3rd base while Jeter stays at SS makes less sense than leaving Jeter at SS when Arod was acquired. I mean the thought of that alignment just gives me a headache.

    About headaches, I’m trying to think of when was the last time I read or heard of a fresh idea concerning Cano. Maybe a month ago?

  18. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 2:43 pm

    Remember what happens in Tampa, stays in Tampa (must have been hanging out with Justin Bieber)

    Yankees prospect from Cuba faces DUI charge in Tampa

    http://tbo.com/news/crime/yank.....-20140124/

  19. UpState January 24th, 2014 at 2:44 pm

    Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 2:39 pm
    Mel Brooks already had it.

    ****

    but why didn’t i use it – that’s my dilemma
    =====================================

    That IS a quandary.

    …so igneous, too…

    …but you keep the Graham Stoneburner fire burning and alive !!!!

  20. Sweet Swinging Cano January 24th, 2014 at 2:44 pm

    Jeter is not going to be moved. maybe down the line, but he will get every chance to be the ss.

  21. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 2:45 pm

    Signing Drew and having him play 3rd base while Jeter stays at SS makes less sense than leaving Jeter at SS when Arod was acquired. I mean the thought of that alignment just gives me a headache.

    the idea makes sense, but getting Jeter to buy into it good luck with that

  22. Jerkface January 24th, 2014 at 2:48 pm

    But Tanaka still would not have the requisite MLB service time to qualify for free agency and he would no longer be tied to NPB. I don’t understand how that can be.

    Because a major league contract trumps service time and the contract clause will state that the Yankees must make Tanaka a free agent if he opts out. Matsui, Ichiro, Kuroda, and Cespedes got the same clauses.

  23. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 2:49 pm

    That IS a quandary.

    …so igneous, too…

    …but you keep the Graham Stoneburner fire burning and alive !!!!

    *****

    i know i had my chance to recreate a new screen name – and dropped the ball yet again

  24. blake January 24th, 2014 at 2:50 pm

    “Signing Drew and having him play 3rd base while Jeter stays at SS makes less sense than leaving Jeter at SS when Arod was acquired. I mean the thought of that alignment just gives me a headache.”

    well it makes them better…..not as better as if Drew was playing SS and Jeter 3B but it still makes them better.

  25. 4TrainNorth January 24th, 2014 at 2:50 pm

    I guess Jeter has earned the right to give it a go. It’s still selfish of him.

    As for the pen, I suddenly feel as though D-Rob is going to really step up and take charge. Whether or not it actually happens, this is a guy everyone can root for.

  26. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 2:51 pm

    For clarity – the prospect was Omar Luis Rodriguez – the cuban lefty with the big arm that qualifies for the rule draft like tomorrow

    Yankees prospect from Cuba faces DUI charge in Tampa

    http://tbo.com/news/crime/yank…..-20140124/

  27. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    blake January 24th, 2014 at 2:11 pm

    I really think the Yankees are risking all this money they have spent with a giant gamble if they don’t address their infield……why spend all that money and leave such a hole?

    ——————

    They really only have a small window with this group of players.. they could be targeting next year’s FA class or they could just be trying to save the ~$30 million in payroll.

  28. bigdan22 January 24th, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 2:45 pm
    Signing Drew and having him play 3rd base while Jeter stays at SS makes less sense than leaving Jeter at SS when Arod was acquired. I mean the thought of that alignment just gives me a headache.

    the idea makes sense, but getting Jeter to buy into it good luck with that

    —-

    Beg to differ. It makes no sense at all. Because it will be obvious to everyone in the clubhouse and anyone watching the games that Drew is ten times the SS Jeter is right now. The Yanks know this. That’s why they won’t let this happen.

    It’s always been Jeter’s call. The good news is Jeter won’t stay and play SS and embarrass himself. The bad news is we’ll all have to wait a bit to get to that point.

  29. DaSaint007 January 24th, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    For those who still don’t think the posting system was changed to hinder the Yankees, from MLBTR.com:

    •One anonymous Major League executive told Crasnick that the new posting system completely goes against everything the league has done to keep the cost of player acquisition under control (e.g. draft slotting, capping international spending, the luxury tax). Said the executive: “This is antithetical to everything the teams have tried to do over the last 20 years. So why did they do it? They did it to target the Yankees and Dodgers, because everybody knew they would be interested in Tanaka. The idea of having a $20 million posting fee to allow other teams to compete was ridiculous.”

  30. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    I hope Drob has a crazy good year at closer and demands top dollar in the off season lol. Dude deserves it.

    Same for Gardner. Get that money boys!

  31. Jerkface January 24th, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    4 years/$36M (2012-15)

    signed by Oakland as a free agent from Cuba (via the Dominican Republic) 2/13/12
    12:$6.5M, 13:$8.5M, 14:$10.5M, 15:$10.5M
    may become Article XX(B) free agent after 2015 season

    3 years/$35.3M (2008-10)

    signed by LA Dodgers as a free agent 12/15/07
    $7.3M signing bonus (paid between 3/2008 and 3/2010)
    08:$5M, 09:$10M, 10:$13M
    no-trade protection
    Kuroda may become a free agent after contract expires

  32. blake January 24th, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    what stops say the next Bryce Harper to say when he’s drafted that he wants an opt out after 3 seasons once his service time clock starts? Can they do that if guys from Japan can do it?

  33. Jerkface January 24th, 2014 at 2:54 pm

    Of course the new posting system was designed to hurt the Yankees. They made it so more of the contract falls under the luxury tax limit. Before it was closer to a 50% split of taxable and untaxable amounts, but now its more like 80/20

  34. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 2:54 pm

    Also, glad to see some people in the last thread agree on my ‘let the best play’ in the Olympics stance.

    The number of athletes that can be considered ‘amateur’ in the modern Olympics is minimal.

  35. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 2:54 pm

    Beg to differ. It makes no sense at all. Because it will be obvious to everyone in the clubhouse and anyone watching the games that Drew is ten times the SS Jeter is right now. The Yanks know this. That’s why they won’t let this happen.

    ****

    good point – the whole thing is way too political for me

  36. Jerkface January 24th, 2014 at 2:55 pm

    what stops say the next Bryce Harper to say when he’s drafted that he wants an opt out after 3 seasons once his service time clock starts? Can they do that if guys from Japan can do it?

    Teams won’t do it. Nothing is stopping the player from asking for it, but given that drafted players tend to spend atleast 2 seasons in the minors it probably would not be advantageous for the player to ask for it. Nor would a team give it.

  37. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 2:56 pm

    blake January 24th, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    what stops say the next Bryce Harper to say when he’s drafted that he wants an opt out after 3 seasons once his service time clock starts? Can they do that if guys from Japan can do it?

    ——————

    I have no idea how this works but I’d assume the answer would be ‘he can ask, but no one will give it to him.’

  38. blake January 24th, 2014 at 2:56 pm

    the Yankees have spend half a billion dollars…..lost all their draft picks……and blew past 189 after spending 3 years positioning for it…….are they really going to go into the season with Kelly Johnson at 3B, Jeter at SS, and Brian Roberts at 2B? Seems ill advised and short sided given how much money they have spent

  39. Jerkface January 24th, 2014 at 2:56 pm

    Also, glad to see some people in the last thread agree on my ‘let the best play’ in the Olympics stance.

    Yea I agree, let them play. The thing stopping them is that pro teams don’t want players hurt playing non-pro games, especially if they take place during the season.

    Theres nothing about the olympics that is really amateur.

  40. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 2:56 pm

    Yanks rotation top 10 now according to ESPN

    http://espn.go.com/blog/sweets.....-rotations

  41. blake January 24th, 2014 at 2:58 pm

    “Teams won’t do it. Nothing is stopping the player from asking for it, but given that drafted players tend to spend atleast 2 seasons in the minors it probably would not be advantageous for the player to ask for it. Nor would a team give it.”

    so there is no rule against it? I can get why nobody would give it to him…..the way the draft is if they refuse to sign they have to sit out a whole year to come back so it’s not worth it.

  42. I am Brett Godner January 24th, 2014 at 2:59 pm

    blake January 24th, 2014 at 2:11 pm
    I really think the Yankees are risking all this money they have spent with a giant gamble if they don’t address their infield……why spend all that money and leave such a hole?
    —————————————————————

    Sure, but who could possibly be left on the market that could address such a need. I’ve been pondering that and I can’t think of a single player. Do YOU have any opinion in the matter?

  43. Sweet Swinging Cano January 24th, 2014 at 3:00 pm

    The Yankees never expected to lose Cano. I honestly believe that, Blake.

  44. blake January 24th, 2014 at 3:03 pm

    “The Yankees never expected to lose Cano. I honestly believe that, Blake.”

    I feel the exact opposite…..I think they offered a contract they knew he’d turn down….but a contract that was big enough where nobody would question it. If they had really wanted him he’d still be a Yankee.

  45. bigdan22 January 24th, 2014 at 3:03 pm

    blake January 24th, 2014 at 2:56 pm
    the Yankees have spend half a billion dollars…..lost all their draft picks……and blew past 189 after spending 3 years positioning for it…….are they really going to go into the season with Kelly Johnson at 3B, Jeter at SS, and Brian Roberts at 2B? Seems ill advised and short sided given how much money they have spent

    ——

    Let’s try to think positive. Ryan can play SS if Jeter is a disaster and I think the Yanks can live with his bat. Roberts may be average at 2b. Maybe. Johnson, I have no idea. I’ve played more games at 3b than he has. There’s always Nunie!

    Seriously maybe Anna or Seizmore will work out. But the backup plan really is, play out the season a couple months and see how it goes with what they have. If they need to make a trade and add payroll later they def will. No 189 hanging over their head.

  46. Jerkface January 24th, 2014 at 3:03 pm

    so there is no rule against it? I can get why nobody would give it to him…..the way the draft is if they refuse to sign they have to sit out a whole year to come back so it’s not worth it.

    You can get anything you want in your contract if the team will give it to you. All MLB cares about is that if it has a monetary value it must be included for luxury tax purposes.

    Most drafted players that get MLB deals want them so they end up in the majors quicker since they burn options from year 1. Since they are not free agents at the time of getting these deals, they don’t really have the leverage to also get an opt out.

    Most of the opt outs included in those kinds of deals tend to just opt out of the yearly salary and allow the player to go to arbitration. Which they would do if they somehow had undervalued salary for those years.

  47. blake January 24th, 2014 at 3:04 pm

    They knew what it would take to get him…..235. They said no…..then turned around and gave the money to Ellsbury. It’s fine…..I don’t blame them for not wanting to go 10 years for a 31 year old…..but they had to know if they were holding the line at 175 that there was a very good chance they wouldn’t keep him…..if they didn’t then they should have.

  48. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 3:06 pm

    Blake-

    No. They won’t is my bet.

    I’m guessing they are waiting to see who falls into their lap.

    And who will be reasonable.

  49. bigdan22 January 24th, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    I’m really a lot more concerned about the bullpen than the infield. What if Robertson doesn’t work out? What’s plan B then? Think of the cascade effect of that.

    It’s very demoralizing for teams to lose excessive games by the bullpen. The bullpen really hasn’t cost the Yanks serious wins for as long as I can remember. If that starts happening early this year, I’m not sure they’ll know how to fix it.

  50. Tar January 24th, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    “What did they pay Ellsbury and Tanaka, you ask? LESS than they offered Cano.”

    That is not correct. They paid a pitcher who has never throw a pitch in the MLB the same money as they were offering Cano.

    Blake at 3:03. Exactly.
    Have to run

  51. tomingeorgia January 24th, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    Re: Olympics
    I think there are a few sports left that are amateur, in that there’s not much money in them. The winter ones include biathlon, curling (my favorite, love those Nordic ladies), luge, etc. Most of the participants are paid by somebody, though. Home Depot pays any employee that makes the Olympic team, and there have been quite a few of them!

  52. blake January 24th, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    “Let’s try to think positive. Ryan can play SS if Jeter is a disaster and I think the Yanks can live with his bat. Roberts may be average at 2b. Maybe. Johnson, I have no idea. I’ve played more games at 3b than he has. There’s always Nunie!”

    So the back up plan is the SS form of Chris Stewart and Brian Roberts……ewww

  53. AAA January 24th, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    what stops say the next Bryce Harper to say when he’s drafted that he wants an opt out after 3 seasons once his service time clock starts?

    ===================================

    The fact that he’s not a free agent.

  54. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    McCann, Teixeira, Roberts, Jeter, Drew, Beltran, Ellsbury, Gardner

    Soriano

    Johnson
    Baker
    Ryan
    BUC

    Would this be acceptable to begin the year?

  55. blake January 24th, 2014 at 3:14 pm

    I really hope the Yankee rotation can keep the ball low this year and get lots of ground balls……no wait….

  56. blake January 24th, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    “Would this be acceptable to begin the year?”

    this is exactly what I’ve been calling for.

  57. bigdan22 January 24th, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    So the back up plan is the SS form of Chris Stewart and Brian Roberts……ewww

    ——

    No, that’s what I said. The backup plan is to fix it mid-season with a trade to add payroll. And I eally think Ryan is more valuable defensively than Stewart was. I think Ryan starting can really be an asset to this team even if he hits like Stewart.

    Roberts is a big question mark anyway you slice it.

  58. bigdan22 January 24th, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    *No, that’s not what I said.

  59. Tabbert January 24th, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    The one thing that I loved about the Kelly Johnson signing was, he makes for a great utility player. Guy can play all over the place, and has pop. But, playing him as our everyday third basemen decreases his value. I just wish we could find a way to slot him back into that utility role. But.. it looks like we’re going to stand pat until the trade deadline.

  60. blake January 24th, 2014 at 3:18 pm

    The Yankees standing pat until the trade deadline usually means they are standing pat all year aside for maybe a salary dump move or adding a reliever.

  61. blake January 24th, 2014 at 3:20 pm

    the problem with waiting until July to go after Chase Headley or whatever is that 1) they need him for the first half too and those games count 2) most likely there would be more teams wanting the player too and teams that could offer more via trade.

  62. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 3:20 pm

    Jerkface January 24th, 2014 at 2:56 pm

    Also, glad to see some people in the last thread agree on my ‘let the best play’ in the Olympics stance.

    Yea I agree, let them play. The thing stopping them is that pro teams don’t want players hurt playing non-pro games, especially if they take place during the season.

    ———–

    Yeah I get the worry over the two weeks of risk where your players are out of your hands.. it’s a money thing all around. Money spent on the players and money lost by missing some games. But I think it’s totally worth it. We need more countries to pull talent from!!

  63. bigdan22 January 24th, 2014 at 3:20 pm

    Tabbert January 24th, 2014 at 3:17 pm
    The one thing that I loved about the Kelly Johnson signing was, he makes for a great utility player. Guy can play all over the place, and has pop. But, playing him as our everyday third basemen decreases his value. I just wish we could find a way to slot him back into that utility role. But.. it looks like we’re going to stand pat until the trade deadline.

    —–

    I agree. I hope they end up using Johnson that way. As a utility player. He can play outfield too. I’m expecting injuries out there. Johnson’s value is much higher in that role than as a starter or even a platoon starter.

  64. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 3:23 pm

    Tabbert January 24th, 2014 at 3:17 pm
    The one thing that I loved about the Kelly Johnson signing was, he makes for a great utility player. Guy can play all over the place, and has pop. But, playing him as our everyday third basemen decreases his value. I just wish we could find a way to slot him back into that utility role. But.. it looks like we’re going to stand pat until the trade deadline.

    *****

    Is he adequate backup for Tex?

  65. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    The thing about demanding some sort of opt out from the point of being drafted is what are your options if no one gives it to you? Not playing in MLB. So no one is going to make a request like that when your other option is to find somewhere else to play.

    The Devils have a policy of not giving bonus money to draft picks. We drafted a top defensmen a few years ago that waived the bonus because of the policy – but really he had no choice if he wanted to play in the NHL lol.

    Leverage.

  66. blake January 24th, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    Is he adequate backup for Tex?”

    we will probably find out.

  67. bigdan22 January 24th, 2014 at 3:26 pm

    I don’t Johnson plays 1b. I don’t think the Yanks have a backup 1b on the roster right now. There’s talk of giving Beltran and McCann a glove. We’ll see.

  68. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 3:27 pm

    There’s talk of giving Beltran and McCann a glove. We’ll see.

    ****

    maybe future seasons – but i don’t like it for this upcoming season -

  69. Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 3:27 pm

    Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 2:30 pm
    There’s a thread stating what number should Tanaka wear and some members in there said give him 24.

    *****

    well that’s just sad

    ———-

    Sad isn’t the word. There are even those that say he isn’t the best at position or even the best Yankee 2nd baseman lol

  70. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 3:28 pm

    especially when Tex could easily land back on the dl for an extended stay

  71. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 3:29 pm

    Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 3:27 pm
    Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 2:30 pm
    There’s a thread stating what number should Tanaka wear and some members in there said give him 24.

    *****

    well that’s just sad

    ———-

    Sad isn’t the word. There are even those that say he isn’t the best at position or even the best Yankee 2nd baseman lol

    ****

    well now i am just clinically depressed

  72. blake January 24th, 2014 at 3:30 pm

    Cano is the best 2B in Yankee history by far…..but him leaving pretty much means retiring his number is out I’d think……they are short on numbers already…..somebody has to get 24 don’t they?

  73. Captain Clutch January 24th, 2014 at 3:30 pm

    Drew makes too much sense for the Yanks to say no to him. Go into spring training with Jeter at SS and Drew at 3rd. If Jeter agrees to play 3rd or it’s obvious that he can’t play SS anymore then switch them. They are asking for a disaster if they don’t add someone like him to their infield. You can’t go into the season with a 40 year old SS and no answers for 2nd or 3rd base.

  74. Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    Stone Exhibit A:

    Cano is not the best 2nd baseman this franchise has ever had, hands down Randolph made a huge difference in game, something Cano never was able to do.

    And even Bobby Richardson led in a category (hits -1962).

    Of course we also have Tony Lazzeri (HOF).

    And while you want to throw out Knoblauchs name, at least he won ROY, something Cano did not, amongst other things.

    So no, I have been disgusted with Cano for quite a few years and am on record here as such. Even prior to his signing with Seattle, I was all about him not returning. We need to remove the deadwood from this team and with gone as well as a temporary stay of A-Roid, the team is almost free of dead wood.

    Wow just wow

  75. bigdan22 January 24th, 2014 at 3:32 pm

    I’m not sure what the Yanks would do if Tex ends up on the DL for awhile which can def happen. I think McCann really should learn the position for the future as well since he’ll need a break at C and hopefully the Yanks will have young’uns catching in the not too distant future.

    But that doesn’t solve the problem for this coming season. They seriously do need a backup first baseman who could stay in the lineup there for a few weeks if necessary.

  76. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 3:32 pm

    Captain Clutch January 24th, 2014 at 3:30 pm
    Drew makes too much sense for the Yanks to say no to him. Go into spring training with Jeter at SS and Drew at 3rd. If Jeter agrees to play 3rd or it’s obvious that he can’t play SS anymore then switch them. They are asking for a disaster if they don’t add someone like him to their infield. You can’t go into the season with a 40 year old SS and no answers for 2nd or 3rd base.

    *****

    hear hear

  77. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 3:34 pm

    Odds –

    some disturbing stuff – makes me sick (just had lunch – i know – TMI).

  78. blake January 24th, 2014 at 3:34 pm

    “Drew makes too much sense for the Yanks to say no to him. Go into spring training with Jeter at SS and Drew at 3rd. If Jeter agrees to play 3rd or it’s obvious that he can’t play SS anymore then switch them. They are asking for a disaster if they don’t add someone like him to their infield. You can’t go into the season with a 40 year old SS and no answers for 2nd or 3rd base.”

    join the revolution of common sense

  79. AAA January 24th, 2014 at 3:34 pm

    Cano is not the best 2nd baseman this franchise has ever had, hands down Randolph made a huge difference in game, something Cano never was able to do

    ===========================================

    Utter horse bleep.

  80. Mottsx January 24th, 2014 at 3:34 pm

    Juan Rivera would take a league minimum deal.

  81. jackamir January 24th, 2014 at 3:35 pm

    I am happy with this team that the FO has constructed and ownership has shown their commitment to the fans. It is not perfect but what team is? I think this team will contend and barring injuries it should be exciting. The team is full of professionals and has much needed experience to overcome the bad streaks that always arise during the long season. I don’t see a team in the AL that is much better.

  82. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 3:36 pm

    Mottsx January 24th, 2014 at 3:34 pm
    Juan Rivera would take a league minimum deal.

    ****

    lol – yes – cashman always has to have that josh phelps type player that is forced on everyone in ST

  83. Tabbert January 24th, 2014 at 3:36 pm

    bigdan-

    Yea, I think he is the perfect role player. Tampa utilized him in that same way. But.. at this point, I am just thrilled with the moves ownership has done. It’s hard to be upset at this point. I think we’re both in agreement that we are going to ride this thing out until the trade deadline and see where we are. Which is really not that bad of a plan.

  84. Tabbert January 24th, 2014 at 3:37 pm

    Stone-

    I’m not sure if Johnson could handle full time backup duty at 1st if Tex went down, but he is probably the most qualified to do so with this current roster. I personally have no idea how well he can play the position.

  85. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 3:37 pm

    i am still not seeing the down side of Drew – it cannot be draft pick compensation – they already are saying 2013 draft was the draft and the 2014 july 2nd will be our big amateur splurge – and i cannot believe it would be an extra-13 million at this point.

  86. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 3:39 pm

    Another shooting at South Carolina State? Oy vey..

  87. Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 3:39 pm

    Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 3:34 pm
    Odds –

    some disturbing stuff – makes me sick (just had lunch – i know – TMI).

    ———————-

    Yea watch the vomit there are women and kids on here.

    Ewwwww Stone lol

  88. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 3:40 pm

    Tabbert January 24th, 2014 at 3:37 pm
    Stone-

    I’m not sure if Johnson could handle full time backup duty at 1st if Tex went down, but he is probably the most qualified to do so with this current roster. I personally have no idea how well he can play the position.

    ****

    thanks – Tex did not exactly instill confidence recently with me – the only true backup for Tex left on the market is Morales – and that is not happening unless Tex needs surgery again right away in March and Morales is still out there – the other is Baker – who makes sense – but does he go back to Texas?

  89. Tabbert January 24th, 2014 at 3:40 pm

    Maybe the front office doesn’t view Drew as that good of a player? They might not want to offer the guy a multi year deal with the group of infielders that are hitting free agency next year. Or… maybe they really have hit their spending limit. Who knows. But.. it sure doesn’t seem like are very worried about landing Drew.

  90. Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 3:40 pm

    AAA January 24th, 2014 at 3:34 pm
    Cano is not the best 2nd baseman this franchise has ever had, hands down Randolph made a huge difference in game, something Cano never was able to do

    ===========================================

    Utter horse bleep.

    ————-

    All because he never won MVP, ROY, a batting title, or led the league in hitting and has poor PS numbers.

  91. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 3:40 pm

    Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 3:39 pm
    Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 3:34 pm
    Odds –

    some disturbing stuff – makes me sick (just had lunch – i know – TMI).

    ———————-

    Yea watch the vomit there are women and kids on here.

    Ewwwww Stone lol

    ******

    i am blaming http://www.yesnetwork.com/messageboards

  92. Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 3:41 pm

    Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 3:39 pm
    Another shooting at South Carolina State? Oy vey..

    ——————

    Is that like the 3rd shooting in the past week or so.

  93. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 3:42 pm

    Tabbert January 24th, 2014 at 3:40 pm
    Maybe the front office doesn’t view Drew as that good of a player? They might not want to offer the guy a multi year deal with the group of infielders that are hitting free agency next year.

    *****

    that’s very valid – Sandoval, Headley, Hardy, Asdrubal

  94. blake January 24th, 2014 at 3:42 pm

    “Cano is not the best 2nd baseman this franchise has ever had, hands down Randolph made a huge difference in game, something Cano never was able to do”

    lol

  95. Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 3:42 pm

    Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 3:40 pm
    Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 3:39 pm
    Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 3:34 pm
    Odds –

    some disturbing stuff – makes me sick (just had lunch – i know – TMI).

    ———————-

    Yea watch the vomit there are women and kids on here.

    Ewwwww Stone lol

    ******

    i am blaming http://www.yesnetwork.com/messageboards

    ———————-

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    The requested object does not exist on this server. The link you followed is either outdated, inaccurate, or the server has been instructed not to let you have it. Please inform the site administrator of the referring page.

    You broke the YES boards lol

  96. Tabbert January 24th, 2014 at 3:43 pm

    Stone- That is a good question. I’m all on board with Baker as well. I think he makes a lot of sense, and he brings us some more pop off the bench which we really need.

  97. Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 3:43 pm

    Another gem:

    Who was the best at 2B in 2013? Pedroia.

    In Yankee history? Lazzeri (5 WS, HOF).

  98. blake January 24th, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    “Maybe the front office doesn’t view Drew as that good of a player? They might not want to offer the guy a multi year deal with the group of infielders that are hitting free agency next year.”

    maybe but there a couple of problems with that line of thinking to me 1) they clearly want to win in 2014…..Drew is the only one who helps with that 2) they need multiple infielders not just one….so signing Drew now doesn’t preclude them from signing somebody else next winter. They could sign Drew now to play SS and then Headley next year to play 3B. 3) Drew’s market is depressed…..he’s most likely going to be cheaper than all of those other options.

  99. Hassey January 24th, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    Jeter’s 2014 hit total = somewhere between 2012 and 2013

  100. blake January 24th, 2014 at 3:45 pm

    against,
    where are you reading this stuff? Stay away from there wherever it is.

  101. Hassey January 24th, 2014 at 3:46 pm

    How can i just let you walk away?
    Just let you leave without a trace?

  102. jackamir January 24th, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    Beltran will see time at 1st base in a backup role..r Pitching is the only concern now… We will make the adjustments at the trade deadline…..Drew is not in the cards—-Forgetaboutit !!!!!

  103. Joe from Long Island January 24th, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    Maybe the front office doesn’t view Drew as that good of a player? They might not want to offer the guy a multi year deal with the group of infielders that are hitting free agency next year. Or… maybe they really have hit their spending limit. Who knows. But.. it sure doesn’t seem like are very worried about landing Drew.

    or maybe the yanks and boras are doing the dance. or maybe drew is doesn’t want to sign for anything less than 3 year + deal on a ss gig, or maybe he doesn’t like ny, or maybe who knows what. usually, when something that seems to make sense from the outside doesn’t play out the way you think, there’s something you dont’ know about going on. bobcat was right, we only know what they want you to know.

  104. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 3:48 pm

    Is that like the 3rd shooting in the past week or so.

    ———-

    Seems like it, sadly.

  105. Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 3:48 pm

    It’s the YES boards. A little different than this place. I go there from time to time to get a laugh. We all need one sometimes. Although reading Cano is a bum, losers, and couldn’t take the pressure of playing here is odd not funny.

    Cano left and he won’t get as much attention as he received on the Yankees. It sucks and ppl can feel ok with him leaving especially with all the moves the Yankees made but c’mon now let’s not paint a picture that’s not true.

  106. Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 3:50 pm

    Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 3:48 pm
    Is that like the 3rd shooting in the past week or so.

    ———-

    Seems like it, sadly.

    ————–

    Unfortunately this is the world we live in.

  107. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 3:50 pm

    You broke the YES boards lol

    ****

    lol

  108. Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 3:52 pm

    blake January 24th, 2014 at 3:45 pm

    ———-

    Thank God I’m not signed up over there…my head would explode. It seems to be an older crowd on there. Not that that’s a bad thing because we have some older members on here but IDK it’s just weird in that place lol.

  109. bbb51 January 24th, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 2:29 pm
    And I agree that he is part of the same old same old and will not be missed as bad as some think. Just think, it has only been about a month since he left and most, if not all, have moved on to Tanaka.

    ———————

    Go on the YES board. They absolutely hate Cano but can’t stop talking about him. There’s a thread stating what number should Tanaka wear and some members in there said give him 24.

    Do you think 24 should be reserved? I don’t. If Cano wanted that kind of reverence then he should have stuck around. But I wouldn’t go out of my way to give to Tanaka. He should wear 17 anyway, until Kuroda leaves.

  110. Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 4:02 pm

    Do you think 24 should be reserved? I don’t. If Cano wanted that kind of reverence then he should have stuck around.

    —————–

    I don’t think it should but it wasn’t said to praise Tanaka it was done as a shot against Cano.

  111. blake January 24th, 2014 at 4:03 pm

    24 shouldn’t be retired and I don’t think it will be….Cano had every right to take the money but he gave up all that when he did IMO. The Yankees already are short on numbers to give players…..soon there will be no single digits left……I don’t want a bunch of 92′s running around out there. Cano could have had all the Yankee honors…..he chose to take the money.

  112. Hassey January 24th, 2014 at 4:04 pm

    they should give 24 to a rookie infielder

    Cano is dead to me

    ptooh

  113. bbb51 January 24th, 2014 at 4:05 pm

    They could give it to Brian Roberts. :twisted:

  114. blake January 24th, 2014 at 4:05 pm

    Anthony McCarron ?@AnthonyMcCarron 9m
    Mets announce they’ve signed Daisuke Matsuzaka to a minor-league deal with invite to big-league camp

    not to be outdone

  115. Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 4:06 pm

    Cano could have had all the Yankee honors…..he chose to take the money.

    —————————-

    Agree with everything you said and it’s just like the players we signed. They chose the money as well. The thing I don’t understand with some fans is the hypocrisy. Fans see him as a traitor for taking the money but we have taken players from other teams over the yrs by paying them the most or close to it.

  116. Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 4:07 pm

    blake January 24th, 2014 at 4:05 pm
    Anthony McCarron ?@AnthonyMcCarron 9m
    Mets announce they’ve signed Daisuke Matsuzaka to a minor-league deal with invite to big-league camp

    not to be outdone

    ———————

    I can see those Mets WS tickets being printed already ;)

  117. blake January 24th, 2014 at 4:09 pm

    “Agree with everything you said and it’s just like the players we signed. They chose the money as well. The thing I don’t understand with some fans is the hypocrisy. Fans see him as a traitor for taking the money but we have taken players from other teams over the yrs by paying them the most or close to it.”

    wonder if those fans would have turned down like 90 extra million dollars which with taxes i’ve read that’s what the difference comes out to between the 240 he signed for and the 175 the Yankees offered.

    The Yankees had as big or an even bigger part in this than Cano did…..they set a number and wouldn’t budge…..even though Cano had been under paid his whole career and even though they went the extra mile for other players this winter.

  118. blake January 24th, 2014 at 4:13 pm

    Robert Jacob Lerma ?@robertjlerma 6m
    A handful of brisket from @FranklinBbq. Hand by @bbqfranklin. #portraitsofBBQ @bonappetit @rapo4 pic.twitter.com/3JUVQ2hnPU

    mmmm

  119. Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 4:18 pm

    wonder if those fans would have turned down like 90 extra million dollars which with taxes i’ve read that’s what the difference comes out to between the 240 he signed for and the 175 the Yankees offered.

    The Yankees had as big or an even bigger part in this than Cano did…..they set a number and wouldn’t budge…..even though Cano had been under paid his whole career and even though they went the extra mile for other players this winter.

    ————————–

    They wouldn’t have turned it down especially when dealing with those numbers.

    Exactly they had to be nudged just to go 7 yrs. That took a lot of hand wringing.

    What makes it crazy is he went to them yrs ago for an extension and they turned him down only to approach him yrs later in his final season and try to extend him. I think that’s when they realized it wasn”t going to happen and if it did it would be at a number they wouldn’t touch.

  120. Wave Your Hat January 24th, 2014 at 4:21 pm

    I’m beginning to think there is a shot that the Yanks will grab Drew. I don’t know how it will work out with Jeter; my guess is the Yanks don’t know either and that more than money is what is holding things up. I’ve never been a believer in Jeter willingly giving up SS, my view of human nature is that our capacity for self-delusion is almost limitless and I don’t see why Jeter should be an exception to the rule.

  121. blake January 24th, 2014 at 4:23 pm

    “I’m beginning to think there is a shot that the Yanks will grab Drew. I don’t know how it will work out with Jeter; my guess is the Yanks don’t know either and that more than money is what is holding things up. I’ve never been a believer in Jeter willingly giving up SS, my view of human nature is that our capacity for self-delusion is almost limitless and I don’t see why Jeter should be an exception to the rule.”

    I think Drew saying he’ll play other positions is pretty big and that comment was probably directed at the Yankees. He may figure well I can go there and play 3B and then next year I’m their SS or sooner than that if Jeter can’t do it.

  122. Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 4:24 pm

    How much is Drew looking for again?

  123. blake January 24th, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    Against All Odds says:
    January 24, 2014 at 4:24 pm
    How much is Drew looking for again?

    No clue….there have been like no reports

  124. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 24th, 2014 at 4:42 pm

    Let’s not rewrite history, shall we? Robby’s team transmitted to Cashman that it was about the money. Cashman didn’t just pull that out of the air. CLEARLY (love when people throw that word around) Robby was going to be highest bidder. MORE CLEARLY the Yankees weren’t going 10 years.

    So please don’t say that if the Yankees wanted Cano, he’d still be here. Because CLEARLY they weren’t giving 10 years to anyone since CLEARLY they were looking straight into the faces of long-term contracts that had burned them badly.

    CLEARLY I believed that Robby was going to be a Yankee for life, and had hoped for as much, but it didn’t happen. CLEARLY Robby has moved on. That was his choice. CLEARLY there’s little reason that I should not do the same. CLEARLY.

  125. oak2455 January 24th, 2014 at 4:43 pm

    I think Drew turned down from the Sox two years 12 million

  126. oak2455 January 24th, 2014 at 4:44 pm

    my bad just looked it up he rejected the qualifying offer

  127. blake January 24th, 2014 at 4:44 pm

    I think 3/35ish gets it done for Drew and Id do that

  128. oak2455 January 24th, 2014 at 4:45 pm

    I second that!

  129. tomingeorgia January 24th, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    blake,
    While the Drew cud is being rechewed, let me say that this is the first day since I got to Georgia, more than ten years ago, that we didn’t get out of the 20s, all day long. 29 now, and the sun’s going down. The cat , who’s never done it before, is finding indoor places to do her business, unless I run her down and throw her out the door. Sucks.

  130. Wave Your Hat January 24th, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    Cano who?

  131. blake January 24th, 2014 at 4:50 pm

    While the Drew cud is being rechewed, let me say that this is the first day since I got to Georgia, more than ten years ago, that we didn’t get out of the 20s, all day long. 29 now, and the sun’s going down. The cat , who’s never done it before, is finding indoor places to do her business, unless I run her down and throw her out the door. Sucks.”

    Bret says it’s cause of global warming

  132. Captain Clutch January 24th, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    I think they can get Drew for very cheap. He might even want a 1 year deal so he can be a free agent again next year.

  133. Captain Clutch January 24th, 2014 at 4:52 pm

    Tanaka will wear #19 next year

  134. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 24th, 2014 at 4:53 pm

    Never thought there was a shot of a snowball in hell that the Ys would sign Drew. If they do, my hat is off to blake, who never stopped lobbying for him.

  135. Locke January 24th, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    BOLD PREDICTION:

    In 16 years the Yankees with retired the number 18 for Tanaka.

  136. Locke January 24th, 2014 at 5:05 pm

    Captain Clutch January 24th, 2014 at 4:52 pm
    Tanaka will wear #19 next year

    ——-

    Next year being 2014 or 2015?

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