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Pinch hitting: Jeff Sommers

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After a day off, our next Pinch Hitter is Jeff Sommers, a lifelong Yankees fan living in Philadelphia (but with his roots in the Bronx). In his family, Jeff’s in the middle of five generations of Yankees fans, a lineage that began with his grandmother, who was a diehard fan of Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig. Up next was Jeff’s mom, who was “so devoted a Yankee fan that she left the Stadium in tears after Al Gionfriddo stole a World Series homerun from her hero, Joe DiMaggio.” Jeff and his brothers grew up idolizing Mickey Mantle, Jeff’s oldest son was a Don Mattingly guy, and now Jeff’s 8-year-old and 10-year-old granddaughters focus on – who else? — Derek Jeter.

Jeff’s been a college English professor for the past 38 years, and for his blog post, he wonders whether losing Robinson Cano will have an impact on the Yankees that goes well beyond money and statistics. You’ll be able to tell that Jeff wrote this well before the Masahiro Tanaka signing, but I think his point still stands.

Robinson CanoSaving Mr. Banks?

Forgive the terrible pun, but it allows me to make an important connection: The movie is all about Walt Disney’s pursuit of Mary Poppins, a “free-agent” of a sort. That turned out just fine for Walt as he landed Mary, and she joined the roster of Disney immortals, alongside Mickey, Goofy, and Donald. And this is relevant today, only weeks after Hal Steinbrenner, the Yankees’ “Mr. Bank,” made a grievous mistake in letting Robbie Cano get away. Was Cano worth $30 million for 10 years?

To the Yankees, the answer’s yes.

If you’re reading this blog, I don’t have to convince you that the Yankees aren’t any ordinary baseball team. In fact, they’re not really even a sports franchise. There’s no point in comparing them to the Dallas Cowboys or Manchester United or the Montreal Canadiens. Instead, I want to connect the Yankees to Walt Disney World (WDW).

Thanks to a bit of research (Mouse-metrics?), I discovered that WDW has been drawing in the neighborhood of 17 million visitors annually, dating back to 2010. Yet Disney has spent $3 billion in the past two years updating its amusement parks around the world. When I was a kid, there was Disneyland. Then WDW in Florida arrived, followed by three more amusement parks in Orlando. In the past couple of years, WDW has doubled the size of Fantasy Land, added new monorails in Tomorrowland, and replaced the Star Wars simulator with a new one, just to name a few improvements. (And Disney has bought up ESPN, Marvel Comics, and the Star Wars movies along the way as well.)

Why? Because their customers demand “new attractions.” The same old, same old gets old. Unlike other baseball franchises whose fans are happy with an occasional World Series appearance, we all know that the Yankee Universe is based on the assumption that the post-season is a birthright and that pennants and World Series will follow regularly. I acknowledge that winning is an attraction in itself, but the Yankees won 85 games last year, and really who cared? We watched mostly to see Mo and say goodbye to Andy and wait for Jeter’s return.

Of course, the best new “attraction” would be another parade down Wall Street after a World Series win, no doubt. But day in and day out, the Yankees need not just wins but highly-paid stars, and more than highly-paid stars, they need icons. With Mariano’s departure, the near-finale of Jeter, and A-Rod’s implosion, the Yankees will be out of icons before we know it.

Robinson CanoGranted that Robbie Cano may not have put fannies in the seats, but he had a legitimate shot with another five years of production, to get some Hall of Fame shout outs and a retired number in Monument Park.

With his departure, who do the Yanks have potentially to fill the shoes of icon-attraction?

Maybe CC returns to form for another five years. But that’s it. I like the Ellsbury, McCann, Beltran, and other signings – but none will end up in Monument Park. My fingers are crossed that they sign Tanaka and that he lives up to his billing. But they had a potential icon in hand.

Walt didn’t let Mary Poppins fly over to Paramount or 20th Century Fox, and the Yankees made a mistake in letting Robbie get away.

Being “saddled” with 10-year contracts should worry other teams, but not the Yankees. Can the Yanks afford a bottomless bottom line? The better question is can they afford a Yankee Stadium that’s only half-filled? I’m not saying they should have coughed up $300 million for Robbie, but they had driven the price down to $240 million. For that investment, they would have had probably five to six more terrific years from Cano, followed by the possibility of retiring his uniform. Imagine a Dominican player in Monument Park in the Bronx! My 2-year-old grandson would have been just about 12 when Robbie’s farewell tour would have been underway, and he’d have his own lifetime favorite pinstriper.

Instead, we face five, six, eight years — who knows how long — before another iconic attraction might show up. It’s time to open the bank, Mr. Steinbrenner, sign Tanaka, and keep your fingers crossed. Disney understood that people don’t rush to a rusty, old amusement park with last year’s rides. The Yankees should have understood that too.

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261 Responses to “Pinch hitting: Jeff Sommers”

  1. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 9:03 am

    I think the Yankees suspect steroids with Cano and didn’t want to make another contract blunder like Hank did with the Arod opt-out, plus they saw an opportunity to allot some money to Tanaka, a guy they’ve been supposedly scouting since 2007. That’s your #2.

  2. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 9:04 am

    MTU,

    What do you think of Huston Street?

  3. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 9:06 am

    @MikeVacc

    Column: if the #Mets want to prove that they’re legitimately on the come, the short answer is Drew. http://nyp.st/1aQ20hD

  4. blake January 24th, 2014 at 9:07 am

    “the problem with this evaluation is that at age 28 and 29 posada had a .943OPS and a .838OPS
    maccann had a .698OPS and a .796OPS”

    McCann was hurt those years…..I don’t think cherry picking 2 seasons really disproves the comp. Guess it depends on if McCann can bounce back and age like Jorge did…..but they are similar guys skill wise IMO

    McCann through age 29: .277 .350 .473 .823
    Posada through age 29: .268 .369 .465 .834

    of course Jorge kinda was a late bloomer and really had a great run in his 30?s…..but they are similar to me…..I hope McCann can do what Jorge did.

  5. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 9:07 am

    Like you said, “before the Tanaka signing”.

    He has the potential to create huge excitement.

    The Farm isn’t dead either. Another great one might emerge at some point.

    If not, maybe they buy a guy like Harper or Trout.

    ;)

  6. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 9:08 am

    Bret-

    I’m Ok w him. Especially as a setup guy.

    Great sinker.

    I think he is the Stros closer though.

    Who would they replace him with ?

  7. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 9:09 am

    Blake,

    When the Mets sign Drew, will you pivot to another infielder? Have you contemplated a contingency plan or is the plan patience?

    You must have a 2nd choice in there somewhere.

    Or will you just swallow it up and accept the “worst infield defense”.

  8. blake January 24th, 2014 at 9:09 am

    my guess is the Yankees didn’t really think Cano would age well….and they didn’t like his leadership ability enough to go the extra mile. It just doesn’t seem like they felt he was part of the fabric the team……clearly they felt CC was that 2 years ago when they extended his contract further.

    They made a decision to move on……it sucks short term especially but I think in the long run not giving a 31 year old 235 million bucks always makes sense.

  9. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 9:09 am

    MTU,

    He’s the Padres closer.

    They just signed Benoit who can close.

  10. blake January 24th, 2014 at 9:11 am

    “When the Mets sign Drew, will you pivot to another infielder? Have you contemplated a contingency plan or is the plan patience?”

    there is nobody in free agency….and getting behind potential trades is much harder because you just don’t know how realistic they are. I’d call about lots of guys and they probably already have…..Nick Franklin, Andrus, Castro, Owings, Didi…….I mean there are guys out there they could try to get…..just nobody for only money like Drew.

  11. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 9:12 am

    Bret-

    Thanks for info.

    I’d be happy with him for the right exchange.

    I think the A’s or Dodgers must have someone they are willing to part with too.

    They both have overstocked their pens.

    Storen is basically a Huston Street clone.

    ;)

  12. blake January 24th, 2014 at 9:12 am

    I’m hoping that the Yankees threw some cold water on the Drew story this morning to try and keep the money down……it’s also possible that Heyman totally made the whole thing up to help Boras make a market for him.

  13. austinmac January 24th, 2014 at 9:13 am

    Bret,

    My alternative to Drew is Diaz. Of course, my scouting report is non-existent.

  14. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 9:14 am

    blake-

    And all of those guys are in play if Nova can be made available with the addition of another SP.

    ;)

  15. austinmac January 24th, 2014 at 9:16 am

    I think I would bet on Heyman making it up. Too bad since I agree with Blake.

  16. Tackelberry January 24th, 2014 at 9:16 am

    I can’t kill the Yanks for the Cano situation. They offered him 7 years at 25 mill per. They made it clear froim the beginning that they were absoluitely not going to go 10 years with anyone anymore over the age of 30.

  17. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 9:16 am

    Jeff

    I liked your article.

    “Granted that Robbie Cano may not have put fannies in the seats, but he had a legitimate shot with another five years of production, to get some Hall of Fame shout outs and a retired number in Monument Park.”

    And now because JayZ convinced him money is king, he might not reach those lofty goals that get him admitted to Cooperstown and a place near the Yankee greats that you and your family have seen in Monument Park.

    The Yankees offered him a fair contract, a contract that would allow them to add other free agents to improve the many holes they had to fill.

  18. blake January 24th, 2014 at 9:17 am

    “And all of those guys are in play if Nova can be made available with the addition of another SP.”

    MTU,

    lets play hypothetical. Lets say you can make the Gardner for Bailey trade…..maybe you have to throw in JR Murphy or another prospect but you get that done. Would you then turn around and offer Nova for Chase Headley?

    Basically for 2014 you’d be looking at Nova and Gardner for Bailey and Headley.

    Clearly that makes the Yankees better short term……of course the big loss is the 2 extra years of control for Nova. I’d probably do it if I got extension windows for Bailey and Headley and if I could extend them…….I doubt Hal would authorize that much spending though.

  19. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 9:17 am

    I would think the Snakes would be hungry to have a guy like Nova.

    They need a guy w high end potential.

    The Halos need pitching desperately. They seem like a good target for a trade.

  20. Tackelberry January 24th, 2014 at 9:17 am

    Cuban defectot Odrisamer Despaigne has been ruled a free agent & is negotiating with teams to get into spring camp:
    http://hrld.us/1faSavh

  21. Tackelberry January 24th, 2014 at 9:18 am

    Who replaces Nova if we trade him?

  22. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2014 at 9:19 am

    Nova’s value is the wild card. If a return solves a long-term hole like shortstop or third base or second base, perhaps it makes sense to pay Ubaldo Jimenez and save Gardner for another trade if Bailey is not attainable.

  23. Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 9:19 am

    Jeff’s been a college English professor for the past 38 years, and for his blog post, he wonders whether losing Robinson Cano will have an impact on the Yankees that goes well beyond money and statistics.

    —————–

    According to sections of the fan base Cano was a bum, loser, choke artist, and never did anything here so his loss is not a big thing
    SMFH

  24. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 9:20 am

    Blake-

    Absolutely under the circumstances you presented w one caveat.

    I need to move a BUC for De Aza who would replace GGBG.

    :)

  25. blake January 24th, 2014 at 9:20 am

    “I can’t kill the Yanks for the Cano situation. They offered him 7 years at 25 mill per. They made it clear froim the beginning that they were absoluitely not going to go 10 years with anyone anymore over the age of 30.”

    my only criticism…and i’ve been saying this since July…..is that if they were always going to draw a line in the sand at 175, then they should have traded him because he was always leaving at that number IMO…..it’s a lot of money yes but he had made it clear there would be no discounts and he was going to get 200+ million from somebody. If they weren’t willing to do what it took to sign him…..then they should have traded him. That’s the opportunity loss now……

  26. 86w183 January 24th, 2014 at 9:20 am

    Don’t need to trade Nova unless it is for a significant young position player. He’s very valuable right now.

    I’d just go to camp and see how good Phelps, Warren, Banuelos and Pineda are throwing.

    Just as I’d go to camp and see how healthy Jeter and Roberts are before spending on their replacements.

  27. blake January 24th, 2014 at 9:20 am

    “Who replaces Nova if we trade him?”

    Homer Bailey in my hypothetical

  28. Ys Guy January 24th, 2014 at 9:20 am

    the last 3-4 years of cano’s contract will be a total waste. that’s $72-$96M of wasted money.
    good decision to let him go.

    and i like robbie alot.

  29. pkyankfan69 January 24th, 2014 at 9:21 am

    Drob is on MLB Hot Stove right now

  30. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 9:21 am

    Macintosh

    As I posted on the last thread, MCCann was hurt and finally operated on in October of 2012.
    However , I hope that he, like Posada, joins the rank of great catchers to don pinstripes.

  31. 86w183 January 24th, 2014 at 9:23 am

    blake —

    When will you finally give it up??

    The Yankees have never been and will never become sellers at the deadline when they are in playoff contention. You think interest dropped off last year? It would have disappeared if they sold off all assets when they were three games out of the wild card.

  32. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 9:23 am

    Cubans are flying out of there faster than a frog can lay eggs.

    :shock:

  33. pkyankfan69 January 24th, 2014 at 9:25 am

    When you compare Posada and McCann you also have to take into account Posada played his whole career in YS and NYS while McCann has been playing in a pretty big park down in ATL… NYS is going to benefit McCann big time, his “just missed” fly balls to right are still going to leave the park a lot of the time. McCann is a fly ball – pull heavy lefty hitter, NYS is a perfect fit for him. With good health and some days at DH I bet he hits 30 HR this year.

  34. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 9:25 am

    …..yeah, I’d rather talk about the Olympics than go back to discussing Cano. Hurts my heart every time.

    Nice post, btw. Anything that compares the Yankees to Disney is awesome.

  35. blake January 24th, 2014 at 9:26 am

    “The Yankees have never been and will never become sellers at the deadline when they are in playoff contention. You think interest dropped off last year? It would have disappeared if they sold off all assets when they were three games out of the wild card.”

    they weren’t really in playoff contention…..and they had Mo’s retirement tour. They lost like 250k fans anyway cause they stunk. If the Yankees want to be more efficient and get the payroll down then they are going to have to stop operating the way they have. Smart fans would have understood if they could have gotten a good prospect or 2 for Cano I think…..

  36. upstate kate January 24th, 2014 at 9:26 am

    Yankee Trader- you sum up my feelings best on Robbie.
    I was and still am a big fan of Robbie, but 10 years is too long to sign anyone.
    Lesson hopefully learned from the A-rod fiasco.

  37. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 9:27 am

    Thanks PK

    DRob was asked what kind of guy Kuroda was, and if he would work with Tanaka.

    Well…….Hiroki Kuroda comment: “I would like to work with him to win another World Series Championship. I also hope his presence can push me to become a better pitcher.” [Nikkan Sports 1/23/2014]

  38. blake January 24th, 2014 at 9:27 am

    McCann doesn’t have to be as good as Posada for Posada to be a good comp for him……I do think he’s going to be great for the Yankees though. I could easily see 35 homers

  39. Tackelberry January 24th, 2014 at 9:27 am

    Blake:

    YOu’re assuming that Bailey is even attainable

  40. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 9:29 am

    Kate

    It’s always nice to see you in the mornings. What’s the chill factor up your way? I have family up in Woodstock and it’s been a killer.

  41. Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 9:29 am

    Smart fans would have understood if they could have gotten a good prospect or 2 for Cano I think…..

    ——————

    True but the fans that want to compete every yr outweigh the smart fans. I keep coming back to this example with Generation Trey. The passed on Santana which is the first time in a long time they didn’t go get the best guy out there. They rolled with the kids and you would think they told everyone they were going to become the Marlins. Fans and even players(Damon, Giambi) were upset they went with youth.

  42. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 9:29 am

    YT-

    IMO HK and MT are intertwined.

    There will be a wonderful synergy developed between the two.

    Tanaka is very lucky to have Hiroki as a Mentor and someone to lean on when times get tough.

  43. Mike Ri January 24th, 2014 at 9:31 am

    Per Rotoworld

    ESPN’s Buster Olney hears that the Yankees “are still not weighing a run” at Stephen Drew.
    CBS Sports’ Jon Heyman reported Thursday that Drew is “one free agent the Yankees are at least weighing,” but Olney is hearing otherwise. FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal has also heard that Drew signing with the Yanks isn’t likely. The club has spent a boatload of money this offseason but is currently slated to go into the year with Brian Roberts at second base and Kelly Johnson at third. If they did change their minds and go after Drew, the 30-year-old would likely start at second and offer protection at shortstop if Derek Jeter isn’t healthy.

  44. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 9:31 am

    It’s always good to have an experienced Man in your foxhole.

    Especially one who speaks your language.

    ;)

  45. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 9:32 am

    MLB participating in the Olympics would greatly raise the international profile of the sport (and help provide funding in countries that wouldn’t typically get it) and create new talent pools.

    New talent = more places the Yankees can bend everyone in the league over.

  46. Tackelberry January 24th, 2014 at 9:32 am

    Looking forward to ST this year and seeing some of these guys vy for bullpen spots. Big opportunity for guys like WHitley, MOntgomery, JRam, Betances. Really hope we can get Kahnle back as well.

  47. upstate kate January 24th, 2014 at 9:33 am

    YT
    I have been really busy at work, and don’t enjoy the trade discussions, but Tanaka and the guest writers have lured me back :)

    We have not been above zero all week. The coldest was 30 below. Not much wind, fortunately. My little dog has not learned to read the thermometer, so she still expects 2 walks a day.

  48. 86w183 January 24th, 2014 at 9:33 am

    Smart fans would have understood if they could have gotten a good prospect or 2 for Cano I think…..

    *************************************************************************

    “Smart” fans are in the minority in my opinion.

    I NEVER want to see the Yanks sell off if there’s ANY realistic chance of post-season play. I guess that’s just me, but the season is a pact with the fans and you don’t quit when you still have a chance.

    and seeing how not one major prospect changed teams at the deadline I don’t think the offers would have been all that tempting for an impending free agent who had already announced he was taking the highest $$$ no matter what.

  49. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 9:34 am

    For those that didn’t catch it, the Olympic committee is considering reinstating baseball and softball to the 2020 games in Tokyo in part because of the popularity of the sports in Japan (and, of course, the money it would generate as a result).

    It looks very likely it will be reinstated and NPB is said to be considering allowing their players to participate, which would be awesome.

  50. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 9:34 am

    MTU

    Didn’t it surprise you that there were absolutely no leaks, not one, about who from the Yankees attended the meeting with Close and Tanaka in Beverly Hills, probably the Beverly Hills Hotel, while at the same time we heard who was there from the White Sox and DBacks?

    Did the eight of them wear disguises while in LA? :)

  51. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 9:34 am

    Kate-

    The 2nd cutest dog in the world deserves that.

    ;)

  52. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 9:35 am

    upstate – I’m also glad to see you around, don’t be a stranger!

  53. JCPD January 24th, 2014 at 9:35 am

    Mike….. makes me yearn all the more for spring training…. 21 days until pitchers and catchers!!!

    https://picasaweb.google.com/105244848673673377679/January232014?authkey=Gv1sRgCMCf5LHjzY6ZiwE

  54. AAA January 24th, 2014 at 9:36 am

    I do think he’s going to be great for the Yankees though. I could easily see 35 homers

    ===========================================

    35? Jeesh Blake. Let’s see if the guy can hit 25 first. 35 homers is pretty elite power. That ain’t McCann. Good hitter, but let’s not go crazy here.

  55. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 9:36 am

    YT-

    Ninja Assassins are never seen and seldom heard.

    :)

  56. Russell Munson January 24th, 2014 at 9:36 am

    ““the problem with this evaluation is that at age 28 and 29 posada had a .943OPS and a .838OPS
    maccann had a .698OPS and a .796OPS”

    McCann was hurt those years…..I don’t think cherry picking 2 seasons really disproves the comp. Guess it depends on if McCann can bounce back and age like Jorge did…..but they are similar guys skill wise IMO”

    It’s also worth mentioning that they played in different offensive environments and cherry picking by raw OPS underrates McCann.

    Through age 29, Posada had a career OPS+ of 115. Through age 29, McCann has a career OPS+ of 117.

    I don’t think McCann is the player Posada was offensively, but they are closer than raw OPS would indicate.

  57. Poetkiosk January 24th, 2014 at 9:37 am

    Makes me sad in a way to compare the NYY to Disney World – its an astute observation, but Disney is all illusion and fantasy and although baseball is entertainment, I’d also like to think that we are building a “real” team, one that can really compete and not one that merely appeases a rabid fan base. Living here I can tell you that there is little patience for losing, but I am not sure we need super-stars at every position to attract fans.

    I’d love to see one of our players step it up this season and blossom into a star, however.

    I think Nova might be the one. He has amazing stuff and seems poised for a break out year.

  58. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 9:37 am

    21 days until pitchers and catchers!!!

    —————

    I can’t believe how close it is… pretty soon we’ll have game threads!!

  59. blake January 24th, 2014 at 9:38 am

    “YOu’re assuming that Bailey is even attainable”

    I’m not….I was just playing a hypothetical where he was.

  60. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 9:38 am

    McCann is going to be a good player for us… as long as his bat stay in tact, he’ll make a decent enough 1B to deal with those last couple of years on his deal.

  61. blake January 24th, 2014 at 9:39 am

    ok 35 might be optimistic…..be YS is a much better park for him than the Ted……I don’t think it’s a huge stretch that he could get there. 25 would be a better over/under number though.

  62. Tackelberry January 24th, 2014 at 9:39 am

    35? Jeesh Blake. Let’s see if the guy can hit 25 first. 35 homers is pretty elite power. That ain’t McCann. Good hitter, but let’s not go crazy here.

    ___________________________________________________

    Is McCann a dead pull hitter, or does he spray the ball around as well

  63. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 9:40 am

    Jim-

    Beautiful.

    Thank you for sharing.

    You’re a brave Man to be out there in those temps at night.

    :)

  64. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 9:41 am

    JCPD

    Thanks for the terrific photos. Tell me a little about that first one- where it was taken and how you superimposed it?

  65. blake January 24th, 2014 at 9:41 am

    “and seeing how not one major prospect changed teams at the deadline I don’t think the offers would have been all that tempting for an impending free agent who had already announced he was taking the highest $$$ no matter what.”

    there wasn’t a major prospect changed teams because there wasn’t a major player change hands…..certainly nobody close to as good as Cano.

  66. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 9:41 am

    So Jay Leno still doesn’t seem ready to give up the Tonight Show… heh.

  67. PRDENTIST January 24th, 2014 at 9:43 am

    I just never felt like Cano was held at the same level as a Jeter, Mo or Bernie. I believe his non-hustle to first will always be an issue with some fans. He makes fielding so very easy when in fact some of the plays are very difficult. And I agree that he is part of the same old same old and will not be missed as bad as some think. Just think, it has only been about a month since he left and most, if not all, have moved on to Tanaka. If this was Jeet then it would still be front and center. I have read more about Montero trade than I have read about Cano leaving.

  68. MDROOK6206 January 24th, 2014 at 9:43 am

    Plain and simple ten year contracts don’t work. Now don’t get me wrong signing a young stud like Trout to ten years is a no brainier. But signing a guy on the wrong side of 30 is irresponsible. Cano is a great ball player but hes not Joe Morgan or Ryan Dempster. He is selfish and arrogant and doesn’t bleed Yankee Blue. There comes a point when you have so much money you don’t know what to do with it all and Robbie is way past that point. If you are confident in your abilities why not take the seven year deal the Yankees offered knowing that you will get an extension, if your worth it ,and make more money in the long run. Why? because he knows years 7-10 he is going to be a league average player at best and probably a DH. The Yankees did not let anyone get away, any player with the slightest loyalty would have taken the Yankees offer and probably retired a Yankee.Its greed plain and simple and somebody that greedy does not deserve to wear the Pinstripes.

  69. AAA January 24th, 2014 at 9:44 am

    Is McCann a dead pull hitter, or does he spray the ball around as well

    ===================================

    Mostly pull. That’s where his power is. Some pop to right center as well. Hasn’t really gone the other way with any kind of results.

  70. blake January 24th, 2014 at 9:44 am

    “Is McCann a dead pull hitter, or does he spray the ball around as well”

    he’s pretty much a pull hitter…..he gets on base a lot but he’s a pull hitter and that short porch will help him. He can use the whole field more than say Tex or Granderson…..but most of his power is pull. Here is his spray chart from 2013

    http://www.fangraphs.com/spray.....battedball

    by my count he had 3 opo homers…..3 to CF….and the other 14 were pull

  71. blake January 24th, 2014 at 9:46 am

    “Plain and simple ten year contracts don’t work. Now don’t get me wrong signing a young stud like Trout to ten years is a no brainier. But signing a guy on the wrong side of 30 is irresponsible.”

    yea I think it’s more like they don’t work for players over 30…..Jeter’s 10 year deal was great but he was like 26 or something when he signed it.

  72. 86w183 January 24th, 2014 at 9:47 am

    McCann is a pretty balanced hitter with good power to LCF.

    I agree with Blake that he will be great in Yankee Stadium after hitting in a much bigger ballpark (for a LH hitter) his entire career.

    ***********************************************************************

    there wasn’t a major prospect changed teams because there wasn’t a major player change hands…..certainly nobody close to as good as Cano.

    ————————————————————————-

    Well now you’re playing the chicken/egg argument. Were no top prospects dealt because no top players were available? OR were no top players traded because there were no top prospects available.

    I believe the latter, because teams there were out of contention wold have moved expensive pieces if they could have. TEN teams finished 20+ games out and yet none of them moved anyone of note… and most of them had some attractive players.

  73. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 9:47 am

    Link to top 20 Yankee Prospects.
    The High A Tampa team should be exciting to follow with DePaula, Jagielo, Judge and maybe the Yankees next first baseman – Bird.

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....p?c_id=nyy

  74. JCPD January 24th, 2014 at 9:48 am

    Mike, it was a balmy -3 actual temp……no idea what the wind chill was…… but still having my winter clothes from my Fargo days, I was fine.
    YT, that first picture is looking back away from Niagara Falls on the Canadian side. No superimposition…… a remaining Christmas decoration down at ground level where I am, with the running ferris wheel up on the hill in the background.
    Glad you guys enjoyed them.

  75. blake January 24th, 2014 at 9:48 am

    Texas reportedly tried to trade for Cano last summer……

  76. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 9:48 am

    Grab Yoon

  77. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 9:50 am

    To me, it was always simple: I’d rather over pay for Cano than Ellsbury. Especially when you look at the construction of the team and our system, the need was really in the INF. If you sign Cano, extend Gardner, still sign Beltran and McCann, I think the team is improved and arguably better. It’s a lot easier to plug holes in the OF to find power or speed… Cano’s skill set for his position was worth the price based on that, IMO.

    But they didn’t do that… so everyone figure out how to get MLB to a reputable world competition instead.

  78. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 9:50 am

    AAA

    I just saw an article that showed McCann led all lefties in extreme pull power on balls low and outside. The leaders 1,2 from the right side were teammates Encarnacion and Bautista.

  79. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 9:50 am

    Yoon is on the small side, standing at an even six feet and weighing 180 pounds. He throws in the mid-90s, though, and complements his fastball with a hard, biting slider and a change-up that MLB scouts describe as above average. Though a starter, he has only thrown what we would consider an entire season’s work (~175+ IP) once, in 2011. As best I can gather, the average starter in the KBO throws around 150 to 180 innings, making 25 to 30 starts, per season, often supplementing those starts with relief outings here and there.

  80. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 9:51 am

    Stones-

    OK.

  81. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 9:53 am

    Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 9:50 am

    Yoon is on the small side, standing at an even six feet and weighing 180 pounds.

    ———–

    Wow, skinny dude.

  82. upstate kate January 24th, 2014 at 9:54 am

    Thanks Shame- I will try to pop in more often.

    MTU- if I have the 2nd cutest dog, that means one of yours must be 3rd ;)

    Jim- that link didn’t work for me.

  83. PRDENTIST January 24th, 2014 at 9:54 am

    They didn’t sign Ellsbury until after Cano left. Cano wanted 10 years from the Yankees or nothing. He forced the Yankees to over pay for Ellsbury because Ellsbury was the next best FA out there.

  84. 86w183 January 24th, 2014 at 9:54 am

    Shame —–

    Baseball doesn’t lend itself to an international competition for MLB players, it just doesn’t.

    I would send a AAA All-Star team to the WBC and/or Olympics if they come back. Young pitchers can then be shut down if need be without affecting the MLB club.

  85. RadioKev January 24th, 2014 at 9:55 am

    I like Ellsbury/McCann/Tanaka over Cano and another guy. I think that’s probably how it would have played it we signed Cano. Go for roster depth.

  86. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 9:55 am

    Shame-

    Ever seen Uehara.

    Probably not if he turns sideways.

    :)

  87. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 9:55 am

    AAA

    I found the link on McCann. enjoy!

    http://www.beyondtheboxscore.c.....w-and-away

  88. 86w183 January 24th, 2014 at 9:55 am

    Cano signed nine days after Ellsbury did.

  89. Tackelberry January 24th, 2014 at 9:56 am

    Sign Yoon before the Red Sox do.

  90. macintosh January 24th, 2014 at 9:56 am

    “McCann was hurt those years…..I don’t think cherry picking 2 seasons really disproves the comp. Guess it depends on if McCann can bounce back and age like Jorge did…”

    you’re actually in a way proving my point by saying mccaan was hurt the last two years.
    posada had a remarkable ability to not get hurt. he didn’t go on the disabled list until after age 35.

    there is no “cherry picking” because i picked the last two years that mccaan has played. to me, those are the most relevant.

    i’ll give you mccaan may work out well for the yankees in the short run, but i don’t see anything that says longevity.

    posada was a work out freak. mccaan’s shape looks like it has deteriorated the past few years.
    to me mccaan is a skilled player and catcher who needs to prove he can stay on the field.

    if he does , he’ll put up some good numbers. but if anyone uses injuries he might get as an excuse for a down 2104 , they simply aren’t looking at his track record the past few years.

  91. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 9:56 am

    Kate-

    Thanks for throwing ME a bone.

    :)

  92. JCPD January 24th, 2014 at 9:57 am

    Great to see you kate……. try this again

    Dakota has both your dogs beat for old age cuteness :-)

    https://picasaweb.google.com/105244848673673377679/January232014?authkey=Gv1sRgCMCf5LHjzY6ZiwE

  93. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 9:58 am

    Lot’s of things could still fall into the Yankees lap.

    Ya’ never know what the Stork may bring.

    ;)

  94. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 9:59 am

    Sign anybody before the Sux do.

    :)

  95. macintosh January 24th, 2014 at 10:00 am

    i like guys like cano and posada who are out there every day.

    i’m not crazy about players who spend a lot of time being injured with”bad luck” injuries.

    if you collect enough of the ” bad luck” guys, it really shouldn’t be a surprise when “bad luck” happens.

    one reason why i have zero interest in a guy like drew at shortstop.

  96. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:01 am

    Apple-

    Still think Pineda will wind up in the Pen ?

  97. Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 10:01 am

    Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 9:41 am
    So Jay Leno still doesn’t seem ready to give up the Tonight Show… heh.

    —————–

    He’s not pulling that stunt again is he

  98. 86w183 January 24th, 2014 at 10:01 am

    McCann played hurt the entire 2012 season, had off-season shoulder surgery and got back on the field as quickly as he cold to help the team even though he would have benefited from a longer re-hab.

    I like the unselfishness and love the talent. I don’t care what my catcher looks like. I’ll take Brian McCann, Thurman Munson and Jorge Posada over a svelte Rick Cerone.

  99. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:02 am

    Apple-

    You can’t crazy about Ellsbury then.

    Or even Beltran.

    :(

  100. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 10:02 am

    MTU

    The article on McCann that I just posted will further make you a believer:

    http://www.beyondtheboxscore.c.....w-and-away

    “The next time you see someone pull a pitch that is extremely low and away and an announcer chalks it up to “getting the barrel out there,” don’t forget just how impressive it is.”

  101. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 10:02 am

    86w183 January 24th, 2014 at 9:54 am

    Shame —–

    Baseball doesn’t lend itself to an international competition for MLB players, it just doesn’t.

    ———————

    I see no reason why not, other than money for the league. Which seems to be their only concern (hence, creating the WBC).

    A two week time frame is merely an extension of the ASB by a little over a week, pitchers wouldn’t necessarily need to be taken off their schedules because of the duration of the tournament, position players are used to playing daily… the travel blows, but once you’re in whatever country you need to be in you’re not going anywhere.

    Competition where the best of the best get to compete are awesome. And it gets the sport exposure and funding in places where it’s hard to come by.

  102. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:03 am

    ed: can’t be. duh.

  103. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:04 am

    YT-

    You had me convinced before.

    Overkill.

    :)

  104. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 10:04 am

    He’s not pulling that stunt again is he

    ————-

    Apparently he is… we’ll see what NBC does this time around.

    I can’t watch late night tv. Never seen anything more boring.

  105. upstate kate January 24th, 2014 at 10:04 am

    I would like to see baseball returned to the Olympics as long as they used college players…like hockey used to be.

    Jim- That link is blocked by my server, apparently.
    I have a weakness for older dogs.

  106. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 10:05 am

    Tackelberry

    I just reposted the article above to MTU. I originally thought AAA had asked the question about McCann.

  107. AAA January 24th, 2014 at 10:06 am

    AAA

    I just saw an article that showed McCann led all lefties in extreme pull power on balls low and outside. The leaders 1,2 from the right side were teammates Encarnacion and Bautista

    ==============================

    Good to hear, as I imagine he’ll be pitched that way fairly often.

  108. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:06 am

    Kate-

    I have a soft spot for babies and the elderly.

    :)

  109. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 10:07 am

    How hard would it be for a T-Rex to take a selfie…?

  110. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:08 am

    It’s amazing how one good Tanaka signing can improve the whole Blog.

    Viva Le Blog !

    Viva Tanaka !

    :)

  111. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:08 am

    And most of all Viva Hal !

    Finish it.

    :)

  112. Cashmoney January 24th, 2014 at 10:10 am

    http://www.pinstripealley.com/.....os-jagielo

    A less glowing review of NYY’s farm system.

  113. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:10 am

    Shame-

    With those short forepaws ?

    Extremely difficult.

    :(

  114. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 10:10 am

    Shame

    I went to the Olympics in Atlanta and because I feared that events would be sold out I purchased quite a few beforehand. I ended up trading my baseball tickets for other sports venues that I had never seen live before- judo, water polo. Best event is still beach volleyball! :)

  115. macintosh January 24th, 2014 at 10:10 am

    “Still think Pineda will wind up in the Pen ?”

    mtu-

    i watched one video of pineda the day was traded to the yankees and said at that time i saw a delivery that looked like it would cause injury.

    his delivery looked like a reliever to me at that time.

    can he start? sure.
    he’s going to get his chance this year.

    i’m expecting sabathia to start to figure out a new way to pitch, nova to continue his improvement, kuroda to be kuroda, and tanaka to be a star and lead the yankees. so i’m excited about the yankee rotation. the tanaka signing has brought the staff together.

    i’m not even thinking about pineda at this point. but the fifth spot is open. it’s got his name written all over it of he has a good spring training.

  116. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:11 am

    Farm systems are mainly judged by how much near-ready ML talent they have.

    Once a few more guys in ours advance, assuming they do, we’ll be right up there.

    ;)

  117. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 10:12 am

    On the list of 10 possible breakout candidates – Didi is on the list – I am intrigued

    Didi Gregorius, SS, Arizona Diamondbacks: When Kevin Towers acquired Gregorius from the Reds last offseason in a three-team deal, the trade was widely criticized since Arizona surrendered Trevor Bauer, the third overall pick in the 2011 draft. But Towers loved Gregorius’ defense and Bauer had worn out his welcome in Arizona. Gregorius missed some time with injuries as a rookie but showed more potential with the bat than many expected, hitting .252/.332/.372, and showing the ability to turn on some pitches with seven home runs.

    He’s never going to be an offensive star, but he puts the ball in play, and if he can improve against left-handers (.200/267/.245), his numbers will look pretty good for a shortstop. If his defensive proves to be as strong as Towers sold us on them (the defensive runs saved metric had him at minus-1 run in 2013), he has a chance to be a very good player. His fantasy value may be limited by his lack of offensive skills, but I believe Gregorius can turn into a championship-caliber shortstop.

  118. blake January 24th, 2014 at 10:12 am

    “you’re actually in a way proving my point by saying mccaan was hurt the last two years.
    posada had a remarkable ability to not get hurt. he didn’t go on the disabled list until after age 35.”

    again it’s more about the skills comp than about actual production…..Posada kinda bloomed late and was amazing in his late 20′s through his mid 30′s…..that’s rare. I doubt McCann which match Jorge’s production over the ages he’s signed for……but tools wise they are similar players.

  119. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 10:12 am

    Guys, remember when the USA women’s softball team didn’t give up a run for like 9 games straight…? Awesome.

  120. Cashmoney January 24th, 2014 at 10:12 am

    Jason Parks really summarizes the system in one sentence:

    It’s Gary Sanchez and a list of interchangeable prospects with reliever profiles or bench futures, although the lower levels of the system might be able to put a much-needed charge into a lifeless system in the coming years.

  121. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 10:14 am

    Cashmoney January 24th, 2014 at 10:12 am
    Jason Parks really summarizes the system in one sentence:

    It’s Gary Sanchez and a list of interchangeable prospects with reliever profiles or bench futures, although the lower levels of the system might be able to put a much-needed charge into a lifeless system in the coming years.

    *****

    pretty much :(

  122. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 10:14 am

    Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 10:10 am

    Shame

    I went to the Olympics in Atlanta and because I feared that events would be sold out I purchased quite a few beforehand. I ended up trading my baseball tickets for other sports venues that I had never seen live before- judo, water polo. Best event is still beach volleyball! :)

    —————–

    That’s awesome!! One day I’ll make it to an Olympic event.. I was considering going when they were in Vancouver for the winter games.

  123. 86w183 January 24th, 2014 at 10:14 am

    Shame —

    The all-Star break is four days. A break for the Olympics would be at least 17. It is a HUGE interruption of the season and would cost Billion$$$$. It makes ZERO sense.

    Send a AAA All-Star team.

  124. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:15 am

    MacGregor-

    That’s how I see it.

    Does have a violent and unbalanced delivery. 3rd pitch need to become more prominent and effective.

    I could see your point from the day you mentioned it.

    Just hoping he beats the odds.

    5 slot reduces the pressure but allows for a surprise.

    Another guys who profiles that way is J-Ram. Delivery is better though but keeps getting hurt.

    ;)

  125. Revenge of Stoneburner January 24th, 2014 at 10:16 am

    ESPN’s Buster Olney hears that the Yankees won’t be making a run at Stephen Drew and are expected to maintain the status quo (Twitter link). Likewise, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports tweets that the Yanks are likely at their spending limit, adding in a second tweet that a more likely move would be to swap a bad contract such as Ichiro Suzuki’s for a comparably priced reliever.

  126. blake January 24th, 2014 at 10:16 am

    Jason Parks is the worst fake media scout out there…..he’s basically a know nothing IMO just from reading his stuff…..

    the funny thing about scouting publications is that if Mason Williams or Slade Heathcott or Manny Banuelos have good years they’ll do a 180 and be singing the Yankees systems praises…….they are all very reactionary to what’s happened recently. Not that the Yankee system is great……but before 2013 most had it ranked in the 10-15 range……nothing changed other than the outfielders had down years and Banuelos was hurt.

  127. macintosh January 24th, 2014 at 10:17 am

    “I doubt McCann will match Jorge’s production over the ages he’s signed for……but tools wise they are similar players.”

    ok, we’re pretty much on the same page.

    i do think it’s within mccaan’s skill set to be a really good yankee stadium player.

    he just needs to stay on the field.

  128. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:18 am

    Cash/Stones-

    That is the current picture.

    We have enough talent that one or two breakouts could change that quickly.

    i.e. Banuelos, J-Ram, and any of our 4 young OF’er’s

    There are more behind them too. Lot’s more.

    ;)

  129. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:20 am

    Blake-

    Looks as though we are re-synchronized.

    :)

  130. Cashmoney January 24th, 2014 at 10:21 am

    Morning All, while I disagree with some of his evaluation above, too much focus on tools than skills, I think overall he is right.

    I think Yanks decision on overspending IFA allotment is a testament of that realization. I also wish they are more aggressive in engaging more polished IFA henceforth. Yanks need corrale talents from every avenue avail to them. FA is expensive but importantly, in the not too distant future the goods simply might not be there if you are the richest kid on the block in regard to FA.

  131. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:21 am

    By the way, those talking heads do not have a clue.

    We are NOT at our spending limit.

    They may think so. But it’s comical.

    :)

  132. Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 10:22 am

    Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 10:04 am
    He’s not pulling that stunt again is he

    ————-

    Apparently he is… we’ll see what NBC does this time around.

    ———–

    SMH he’s a clown

  133. upstate kate January 24th, 2014 at 10:22 am

    I went to the winter Olympics when they were in Lake Placid. Unbelieveable experience.

  134. Cashmoney January 24th, 2014 at 10:24 am

    MTU, for my money, I like Austin and Flores at upper level, I think those 2 are most likely to stick if they make to the big.

  135. blake January 24th, 2014 at 10:25 am

    example.

    Slade Heathcott…..has a good AFL last year and he’s called “Josh Hamilton lite” by the fake media scouting community…….has a down year in 2013 and is forgotten by many.

  136. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:25 am

    I hate to tell you this but IMO the Yankees are not as interested in developing young players as some might think.

    If they were they would have the very best of everything throughout their MiLB system.

    While they have added some items they certainly aren’t all in.

    That should tell you all you need to know.

    When a guy(s) make it in Yankees system it is usually more because of them than because of the excellent training and prep they have received.

    It’s unfortunate but that is what I truly believe.

    The Yankees like to buy what they need.

    ;)

  137. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 10:26 am

    upstate kate January 24th, 2014 at 10:22 am

    I went to the winter Olympics when they were in Lake Placid. Unbelieveable experience.

    —————–

    GTFO, are you serious??

    My little cousin asked me a great question: if you could attend any sporting event in history what would it be?

    I picked Lake Placid and the miracle on ice.

  138. oak2455 January 24th, 2014 at 10:27 am

    Good morning all…. I agree with you MTU, the writers have no clue what our spending limit is…. Sherman still think we’ll be under 189.. Lmao. I see a few other moves that will impact or spending too many holes

  139. Ys Guy January 24th, 2014 at 10:27 am

    i think the addiction to what the fans will think of what they are doing right now is unhealthy for an organization.

    they clearly should have traded cano and hughes before last season for prospects and they also clearly should have traded anyone at the deadline that would have brought back prospects.

    what is best for the long run for the organization is best for the fans.

  140. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:29 am

    Shame-

    Why the surprise ?

    Kate practically lives on top of it.

    :)

  141. oak2455 January 24th, 2014 at 10:30 am

    Cano must be kicking Beyoncé right now

  142. Ys Guy January 24th, 2014 at 10:31 am

    hi kate! LTNS!

    are we playing again this year?

  143. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:31 am

    Oak-

    They are not up against the stops at the moment.

    They do continue to look for good value though.

    That’s the deciding factor at this point.

    Something really good may yet drop into our laps.

    We’ll see.

    I’d always rather be lucky than good.

    ;)

  144. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 10:31 am

    A bounce back year from the farm would be such a boost for this club… last year was pretty disappointing.

  145. PRDENTIST January 24th, 2014 at 10:31 am

    83w183….”.Cano signed nine days after Ellsbury did.”
    Maybe officially. But it was December 4 when Cano visited the Mariners and agreed but gave the Yankees a shot to match and they said no. The day after the Yankees announced they had an agreement with Ellsbury. The day after that Cano announced his signing. I remember because it was my birthday.

  146. Cashmoney January 24th, 2014 at 10:33 am

    The Yankees like to buy what they need.
    ——
    It’s vicious circle Yanks operate their baseball universe in MTU. Fans don’t have to patience to rebuild, Yanks want to crank out money and has an unrealistic WS mandate. While I like to see homegrown players, I have no problem with buying and winning. But I think the perfect storm scenario lies with a barren farm, a less than stellar FA and plethora injury to an aging roster. That is a distinct possibility.

    They need to change the way they have been doing their business is what I am saying.

  147. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:33 am

    Cano has what he wants.

    The Yankees got what they wanted.

    End of story.

  148. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 10:33 am

    Shame and Kate-

    If someone offered me free tickets to the Sochi Olympics and private jet transportation plus access to the Olympic village and free room and board, even though I’m a card carrying member of Team Greedy, I wouldn’t go, even if two giants armed with Uzi’s were protecting me!

  149. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 10:34 am

    oak2455 January 24th, 2014 at 10:30 am

    Cano must be kicking Beyoncé right now

    ————-

    Yes, of all the thing a man would want to do to Beyonce I’m sure kicking her is high on Cano’s list.

  150. Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 10:34 am

    blake January 24th, 2014 at 10:25 am
    example.

    Slade Heathcott…..has a good AFL last year and he’s called “Josh Hamilton lite” by the fake media scouting community…….has a down year in 2013 and is forgotten by many.

    ———————

    It does get a crazy won’t deny that but that’s the way it works though. You produce and hear comes the praise but you fail and you’ll catch heat for it. I think when it comes to Yankee prospects many publications don’t want to get burned by the Yankee hype machine so they go the other way when things don’t work well. Based on recent history they are probably betting there is a chance the spect won’t work out.

  151. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 10:35 am

    The Yankees can get younger and still buy free agents, if they focus on those jewels from the international side.

  152. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:37 am

    Cash-

    They are making an effort in that direction. They will continue it.

    But when you have invested a lot in the Farm and it seems to flop just when you need it most
    it has to make you stop and wonder about it’s value and about your investment.

    I still think a few successes are possible. Perhaps even likely.

    That would change the calculus.

    Until then it’s kind of a “show me” I would think.

    Just something to keep in mind.

    ;)

  153. Cashmoney January 24th, 2014 at 10:39 am

    for example, not extending talented players til they hit FA is one of the more archaic and stubborn policy Yanks have. It literally made little sense in both baseball and financial standpoint, yet it is held as some kind holy grail by the way of tradition. Well, they need to blow up that tradition. Just as an example.

  154. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 10:40 am

    Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 10:33 am

    Shame and Kate-

    If someone offered me free tickets to the Sochi Olympics and private jet transportation plus access to the Olympic village and free room and board, even though I’m a card carrying member of Team Greedy, I wouldn’t go, even if two giants armed with Uzi’s were protecting me!

    ——————–

    Lol, yeah things seem a little tension filled right now but I’d definitely take someone up on that offer. You only live (and die) once!

  155. Cashmoney January 24th, 2014 at 10:41 am

    anywho, good day all, has Blake sign Stehpen Drew yet?

  156. blake January 24th, 2014 at 10:41 am

    “It does get a crazy won’t deny that but that’s the way it works though. You produce and hear comes the praise but you fail and you’ll catch heat for it. ”

    this is how it is with prospects…..everyone is reactionary with them…..it’s a very “what have you done for me lately” thing……if Banueols comes back healthy and Mason and Slade have good years then it’ll change the way the system is viewed…..they really need that to happen.

  157. upstate kate January 24th, 2014 at 10:42 am

    Shame
    I lived in Saranac Lake at the time, which is 10 miles from LP. Security was not what it is today. You couldn’t drive over, but you could take a shuttle bus, supposedly if you had event tix, but they were lax about it. I actually saw the US hockey team play, but it was one of the early games, when they were not expected to do anything. Also saw ski jumping. And we got to see the Gold medal game in real time, on Canadian TV.

  158. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 10:42 am

    CC Sabathia sounds eager for the start of camp.

    He told Fox Sports’ Ken Rosenthal that he’s the same weight he was last year, “Just a little more toned and a lot more strong.”

    Sabathia appeared looking slender in a picture posted on Instagram Sunday as he and wife Amber prepared to attend the wedding of former teammate Rickie Weeks.

    “This is the first offseason I was able to weight-train and get stronger and not worry about weight loss,” Sabathia said.

    ———–

    Well I’m glad that has been settled. Now we don’t have to worry that further weight loss might contribute to decline. :)

  159. blake January 24th, 2014 at 10:42 am

    “anywho, good day all, has Blake sign Stehpen Drew yet?”

    we are in negotiations……I’m offering him an extra year if he will agree to leak to the media how many steroids big Papi is taking.

  160. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 10:42 am

    If the Yankees aren’t interested in producing/developing their own talent they need to stop trying to limit their payroll.

  161. upstate kate January 24th, 2014 at 10:42 am

    Ys- yes!

  162. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:42 am

    If the Yankees were truly serious they would be hiring away the Directors and scouts from the Tampa and St. Louis systems to run theirs.

    They had a chance to hire the former director of the Cards Farm system and instead he wound up w the Stros.

    Don’t you think he might be able to do a wee bit better than Newman ?

    :)

  163. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:44 am

    Cash-

    They only need to blow up that tradition if the model has truly changed.

    ;)

  164. JCPD January 24th, 2014 at 10:44 am

    YT, after the Olympics are over….. then you could make a trip to Sochi. It is an unbelievably beautiful area…… going from sea level to 16,000 feet in a matter of roughly an hour is amazing. Glad I was able to get to see the area before they were awarded the Olympics and started to thoroughly commercialize the area.

  165. Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 10:45 am

    they really need that to happen.

    ————–

    I agree they need those things to happen badly. It means so much to the present and future.

  166. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 10:46 am

    kate – That’s a great story. I love sports so much.. one day I’ll find myself in the proper financial situation to make it to the games.

  167. Hankflorida January 24th, 2014 at 10:46 am

    Cano is the best second basemen that the Yankees ever had followed by Tony Lazzeri and Joe Gordon, and the fact that he did not finish his career as a Yankee will not change anything. Gordon was traded away to Cleveland in the Allie Reynolds deal even though he added home run punch to an infield of table setters including first base after Gehrig left. Throughout the Yankee championship years, they always had a power hitting catcher, Dickey, Berra, Munson and Posada, and it would have been been nice to have power numbers this year from 2nd and catcher. Cano will be missed.

  168. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 10:47 am

    Blake

    Drew tells me he is concerned that he’ll be sharing time with Johnson and suspects that Girardi will look at their splits and use Johnson, a lefty vs lefties and him vs righties, and not give him a chance to play full time while switching positions.

  169. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:48 am

    Blake-

    “they really need that to happen.”

    Can’t control it.

    Just have to hope it does.

    Needing has nothing to do w it.

    ;)

  170. luis January 24th, 2014 at 10:49 am

    Good morning still,

    MTU,

    When was the last time we had a top notch farm? ;)

  171. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 10:49 am

    Hank

    Don’t forget-In 1961, the Yankees also had Elston Howard and Johnny Blanchard. Blanchard was among the many Yankees with 20 or more homers that season and his were in 200 plus at bats!

  172. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 10:50 am

    Guys, I’m watching the news right now and on the crawl it read ‘economy’ and proceeded to tell me about new Oreo’s flavors.

  173. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:51 am

    Luis-

    Is that one of your loaded Venezuelan questions designed to fool unsuspecting Americans ?

    OK. I’ll bite. The Stick Michael era would be my answer.

    ;)

  174. Ys Guy January 24th, 2014 at 10:52 am

    drew makes so much sense for the mets. they are desperate for a SS and need some professional bats.

    it seemed like they weren’t going to spend any more money, but then there they were yesterday going after bailey, when they still have parnell. hard to figure.

    but if they do have the money, drew would greatly improve their team.

    but nothing the mets do makes any sense these days.

  175. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:53 am

    What the Mets did for most of their existence hasn’t made sense.

    :)

  176. austinmac January 24th, 2014 at 10:53 am

    Blake is throwing in discounted dental care to Drew and his family. I expect he will now quickly sign.

  177. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:54 am

    Luis-

    What the heck do you want ?

    They fired the S and C coach after all.

    ;)

  178. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:56 am

    Mac-

    If it will help Blake out I’ll throw in a guided tour of the best spots in southern Utah and some cheap beer.

    :)

  179. Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 10:58 am

    Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 10:50 am
    Guys, I’m watching the news right now and on the crawl it read ‘economy’ and proceeded to tell me about new Oreo’s flavors.

    —————————

    lmao

  180. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:58 am

    The Yankees do not value prospects in general.

    I can’t think of a single one that they consider untouchable.

    That ought to tell you all you need to know about how they see their Farm.

    It’s a hit or miss proposition with them. Not a necessity like it is for small market Teams.

  181. Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 10:58 am

    What would this blog be without Shame.

  182. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 10:59 am

    Perhaps they take another stab at it after the next CBA.

    That depends on what happens between now and then down there.

  183. bbb51 January 24th, 2014 at 11:00 am

    CC – Kuroda – Tankaka – Nova – Pineda

    We have 5 starters who are capable of pitching like a 1 or 2.

  184. blake January 24th, 2014 at 11:00 am

    “Drew tells me he is concerned that he’ll be sharing time with Johnson and suspects that Girardi will look at their splits and use Johnson, a lefty vs lefties and him vs righties, and not give him a chance to play full time while switching positions.”

    I have assured him he will be an everyday player but will sit vs some lefties…..which will only make his numbers look better at the end of the year. In the end……he wants his money.

  185. bbb51 January 24th, 2014 at 11:00 am

    Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 10:58 am
    What would this blog be without Shame.

    Shameless.

  186. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 11:00 am

    Personally I’d rather the Yankees trade for a young infielder. Chris Owings would have fit the bill, but now I believe he’s going to be at third for the DBacks.

    Besides Ackley, are there any other young infielders, 2nd, SS, 3rd, that might be available, for some of our minor league “talent” ( put that in quotes for obvious reasons), players that might be pushed by up and coming minor leaguers, that would make them available?

    Thoughts?

    I just want a second rookie to root for this season, beside Tanaka.

  187. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 11:00 am

    AAO-

    She is a pip.

    ;)

  188. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 11:01 am

    Greedy too !

    :)

  189. blake January 24th, 2014 at 11:02 am

    “What would this blog be without Shame.”

    Shameless. :)

  190. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 11:02 am

    blake-

    You are stealing my material.

    :shock:

  191. blake January 24th, 2014 at 11:03 am

    dang somebody beat me

  192. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 11:03 am

    Shameless.

    ——————–

    Yes!!!!

    Great show, btw. I had to watch it just because of it’s title.

  193. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 11:04 am

    YT-

    I’m on your bandwagon there.

    ;)

  194. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 11:04 am

    *Proceeds to register the name Shameless Spencer on LoHud before anyone else gets to it.*

  195. Ys Guy January 24th, 2014 at 11:04 am

    i disagree with the post and i think it’s typical, greedy-fan crap the kind of which has left us stuck with these too-long bloated contracts that are pushing the payroll into the stratosphere.

  196. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 11:05 am

    MTU

    A pip? I don’t think you mean that. one of its definitions:

    pip2
    —noun

    Veterinary Pathology. a contagious disease of birds, especially poultry, characterized by the secretion of a thick mucus in the mouth and throat.

  197. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 11:05 am

    Blake-

    I beat you by days on the overproduction potential from our staff too !

    You need to up your game if you want to keep up with MTU.

    ;)

  198. RadioKev January 24th, 2014 at 11:07 am

    I think we have to be honest with ourselves and these prospects… Slade’s stock took a major hit after showing some promise. 5 years in the system and he’s played in 300 games, and has really own shown flashes of brilliance.

    Mason Williams took a step backwards, and he’s young. He looks less like a sure thing because of it.

    Banuelos has major surgery, so who knows. Also less of a sure thing, but I do feel better about him than the other two.

    I think it’s a little more than “down” years. Only time will tell.

  199. DONNYBROOK January 24th, 2014 at 11:07 am

    The Balfour $$$ and the general trend signals the END of Closers getting all kinds of $$$ for 1 inning of work. Sure, Mgrs like having that 1 Stud that can shut-it-down in the 9th, but the last guy that got Big $$$ and a Long Term deal was Papelbon and that was a while ago. The Girardi mix-n-match is how Mgrs work it now. It’s proven and is cost effective.
    I believe the Yanks are missing the boat if they let Drew go elsewhere. Hal has blown-up the $189, so the Yanks should get Drew for 3B in 2014, and then have him be their SS in 2015 and going forward. His (L) bat in Yankee Stadium also fits nicely.
    Gomes popping off is very revealing. A confident Reigning Champion should remain silent. Obviously, there is doubt there.
    The $$$ Tanaka will get this season and the $$$ A-Rod Lost, is pretty close to a wash. Not a coincidence.

  200. blake January 24th, 2014 at 11:08 am

    MTU,
    hey i’m just trying to survive…..I’ve had one with the flu…..and between that and my Drew campaign I’m a bit out of sorts.

  201. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 11:08 am

    YT-

    Definitely not that definition.

    Diva.

    Comedienne extraodinaire.

    Savant.

    Wild thing.

    Giver of gossip.

    Like that.

    ;)

  202. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 11:09 am

    You need to up your game if you want to keep up with MTU.
    ———-
    I’d certainly need to up mine if I were to go hiking with you.

  203. blake January 24th, 2014 at 11:09 am

    HardballTalk ?@HardballTalk 5m
    A-Rod offered a job to coach college players http://wp.me/p14QSL-28C

  204. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 11:10 am

    Alright Blake.

    We’re good friends so I’ll give ya’ a pass this time.

    No more stealing my material though, ya’ hear ?

    :)

  205. blake January 24th, 2014 at 11:11 am

    Will Tanaka be 10 million more per year better than Garza over the next 4 years?

  206. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 11:11 am

    YT-

    I’m not as good as I used to be.

    :(

  207. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 11:12 am

    Blake-

    He might could.

    :)

  208. RadioKev January 24th, 2014 at 11:12 am

    blake January 24th, 2014 at 11:11 am
    Will Tanaka be 10 million more per year better than Garza over the next 4 years?
    ———

    If that sets Jimenez at an even lower contract, that’s the deal I want to make.

  209. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 11:13 am

    A-rod offered a job as a nutritional consultant.

    :)

  210. Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 11:14 am

    bbb51 January 24th, 2014 at 11:00 am
    Against All Odds January 24th, 2014 at 10:58 am
    What would this blog be without Shame.

    Shameless.

    blake January 24th, 2014 at 11:02 am
    “What would this blog be without Shame.”

    Shameless. :)

    ——————–

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QJbd.....mshot.jpeg

  211. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 11:15 am

    Kev-

    Might happen.

    Ya’ never know ?

    Maybe a really strong Stork delivers him.

    :)

  212. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2014 at 11:15 am

    Blake

    What happens if while coaching during his suspension, he gets hurt, lengthy rehab and is not ready to come back in 2015? Who pays his bills, and disability during the time of his suspension, and like Aaron Boone, who played BBall and was injured and was cut per the wording in his contract, might the Yankees have an out?

  213. bigdan22 January 24th, 2014 at 11:15 am

    I said last night that the Drew interest was not credible and of course I was right. I’ve repeatedly said folks need to concentrate on statements made on the record by Yankee officials. For some reason, they’ve been very straight with us this off season. They’ve told us exactly where they are going. and they are done spending big this year.

    The logic that since you’ve spent $210MM it’s foolish not to spend $20MM to “finish” the team is the logic of someone who has no skin in the game. Someone who’s never been responsible for spending that kind of money. It’s same silly logic that says Arod should be cut even though he has three more years left on his contract and you owe him over $60MM. If it’s your money, or your butt responsible for spending it, you just don’t think that way. Hal is a finance guy. He expects to receive value for every marginal dollar he spends. He and his team do not believe Drew and other big tickets FAs on the market provide that value.

    A better argument is this. Hal needs to go all in now because this team has a very narrow window for a championship. If you look at the next four years as the “Tanaka Years,” the Yanks may have their best shot in Year One. After this season, Jeter, Kuroda, Robertson and Gardner may all be gone. Will they be able to replace them in 2015? And their over 30 line-up is just another year older.

    That’s the argument I would make, but once again, I have no skin in the game either.

  214. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 11:18 am

    Somebody will be next.

    But who ?

    :)

  215. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 11:20 am

    Dan-

    I like your style.

    :)

  216. bigdan22 January 24th, 2014 at 11:20 am

    While the size and length of Ellsbury’s contract is highly questionable, I do believe that he will be the Yanks’ best position player for the next two or three years and I don’t think it will be particularly close. In that respect, he replaces Cano somewhat. After three years, I don’t have a clue. Hopefully they’ll be some new young blood.

  217. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 11:21 am

    Dan-

    The Yankees have a plan.

  218. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 11:22 am

    Understand that is isn’t just some mom and pop shop it’s a billion dollar enterprise.

    ;)

  219. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 11:22 am

    Ys Guy January 24th, 2014 at 11:04 am

    i disagree with the post and i think it’s typical, greedy-fan crap the kind of which has left us stuck with these too-long bloated contracts that are pushing the payroll into the stratosphere.

    ——————

    Lol, yeah because it’s THE FANS that have signed all these bad deals. Is there no accountability in the FO? If they were such slaves to our wants and needs they would have operated very differently over the past few off seasons.

  220. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2014 at 11:23 am

    MTU January 24th, 2014 at 11:08 am

    YT-

    Definitely not that definition.

    Diva.

    Comedienne extraodinaire.

    Savant.

    Wild thing.

    Giver of gossip.

    Like that.

    —————–

    I will save and treasure this list forever.

  221. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 11:24 am

    Time for some Pupdemonium.

    The Mops want the pupperazzi to take their picture.

    :)

  222. GregD January 24th, 2014 at 11:24 am

    blake January 24th, 2014 at 11:11 am
    Will Tanaka be 10 million more per year better than Garza over the next 4 years?

    ——————-
    Will Garza be $45M better than Phelps/Baneulos/Warren/Nuno/Ramirez over the next 4 years?

  223. bigdan22 January 24th, 2014 at 11:25 am

    MTU January 24th, 2014 at 11:20 am
    Dan-

    I like your style.

    ——

    Thanks MTU. I assume you’re not speaking of my wardrobe. I still prefer jeans and t-shirts.

  224. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 11:26 am

    Shame-

    I could have gone on but then you might have thought I was just jivin’.

    ;)

  225. Ys Guy January 24th, 2014 at 11:26 am

    big dan likes to talk about what bid dan said.

  226. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 11:27 am

    dan-

    Are you kidding ?

    What else is there ?

    Oh, that’s right.

    Maybe shorts and T-shirts.

    ;)

  227. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 11:28 am

    later gang.

    Play nice.

    ;)

  228. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 11:31 am

    One last thing.

    Besides my many other bad habits I have to confess that I am an “Internet flirt”.

    Talk about being shameless.

    I used to fight over Erin and Erica with GB too.

    :(

  229. BIG AL January 24th, 2014 at 11:35 am

    All this talk about Cano brings up a point of how bad a job Jay-Z did for him. No player with his skills signs a 10 year deal w/o an opt out clause.

    I loved Robbie, but, as they say, he made his bed, now he can lie in it.

  230. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 24th, 2014 at 11:35 am

    1. I don’t get what’s not to like about Brett Gardner. I wish he’d time his runs better – and actually run – sometimes but other than that, I think he’s great in the OF, knows how to get on base, and I love the idea of him and Ellsbury being bookends to the lineup!

    2. I thought the Olympics celebrated amateur athletes. Don’t know why they allowed pro teams to compete in the first place, but to me it bas*ardizes the games.

  231. BIG AL January 24th, 2014 at 11:36 am

    Mike -

    Even though GB7 is no longer with us, he’d still get the better of you, lol. :)

  232. blake January 24th, 2014 at 11:36 am

    “I said last night that the Drew interest was not credible and of course I was right”

    link?

  233. BIG AL January 24th, 2014 at 11:37 am

    Later Mike – have a great day.

  234. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 24th, 2014 at 11:37 am

    1. always be sure to check my numbers

    2. if you want to predict, please put my name ( trisha ) in the post so that I make sure to find your prediction.

    _____________________________

    2014 YANKEE PREDICTION CHART

    1/23 Trisha 101
    1/22 Kelvin 98
    1/22 Poetkiosk 96
    1/22 Rhapsody in Blue 93
    1/23 Tomingeorgia 94
    1/23 JimK 88
    1/23 GregD 94
    1/23 Cashmoney 163
    1/23/ Austinmac 92
    1/23 Pete2 93
    1/23 Chicken_stanley 95
    1/23 bbb1 96
    1/23 FS48 91
    1/23 Locke 91
    1/23 nettles9nc 95
    1/23 Upstate 90
    1/23 Tabbert 91
    1/24 Chambliss 89

  235. bigdan22 January 24th, 2014 at 11:39 am

    BIG AL January 24th, 2014 at 11:35 am
    All this talk about Cano brings up a point of how bad a job Jay-Z did for him. No player with his skills signs a 10 year deal w/o an opt out clause.

    I loved Robbie, but, as they say, he made his bed, now he can lie in it

    ——

    The thing about that is, when would the opt out hit? When Cano was 35? If he opts out then because he hates Seattle, he’d probably end up with less money and less years. Never seen a player do that. Gives you an idea of just how bad that contract is.

  236. BIG AL January 24th, 2014 at 11:39 am

    blake -

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/stephen_drew/

  237. Cashmoney January 24th, 2014 at 11:39 am

    I am fairly excited to see what Judge can do this coming year. A high risk pick with light tower power and good athleticism in the field is someone worth keeping an eye on. It is in my opinion that Yanks ought to be more aggressive to promoting more polish college products, I hope both him and Jagielo get a shot a Tampa this year.

  238. blake January 24th, 2014 at 11:40 am

    “Will Garza be $45M better than Phelps/Baneulos/Warren/Nuno/Ramirez over the next 4 years?”

    who knows…..but an established starter is always a safer bet than prospects.

  239. pkyankfan69 January 24th, 2014 at 11:41 am

    Trisha… I have poor expectations for the year… Put me down for 69

  240. austinmac January 24th, 2014 at 11:41 am

    I’m feeling pretty optimistic I am going to be closer to the win number than Cashmoney. Feeling confident.

  241. Howe Farr January 24th, 2014 at 11:42 am

    I thought the Olympics celebrated amateur athletes
    ———————————————————-

    I think this is a misconception, the olympics celebrates the very best athletes in their field, why not include MLBers (if the add baseball)?

  242. BIG AL January 24th, 2014 at 11:42 am

    bigdan22 -

    I, as his agent would have insisted on a 4 year opt out clause. This way he could make a move if he continued to have very good years, and move to a better team as well.

  243. blake January 24th, 2014 at 11:43 am

    Buster vs Heyman…..a cage match

  244. 86w183 January 24th, 2014 at 11:43 am

    A-Rod and Tonya Harding will co-star on “Who Wants to Marry a Scoundrel?”

    They’ll get in an argument and Tonya will whack him on the knee, breaking his kneecap and ending his career. The Yanks then void his contract for suffering a “non-baseball injury”.

    Alex counter sues, pointing out that Tonya hit him with a baseball bat and wins.

  245. blake January 24th, 2014 at 11:44 am

    “Trisha… I have poor expectations for the year… Put me down for 69″

    no no….the Yankees prediction….not the Cubs.

  246. Cashmoney January 24th, 2014 at 11:44 am

    Mac, I suspect you might be right. Game numero uno is do or die for me.

  247. austinmac January 24th, 2014 at 11:44 am

    I understand this year the Super Bowl is part of the Winter Olympics but with more snow than Suchi.

  248. Cashmoney January 24th, 2014 at 11:45 am

    Heyman Vs Big Mac is a match of attrition.

  249. austinmac January 24th, 2014 at 11:45 am

    Cash,

    Every game is a must win. It keeps the team sharp.

  250. blake January 24th, 2014 at 11:47 am

    the Yankees very well may be close to their spending limit……but if they aren’t the last thing they are going to do is come out and say yes….we have 20 more million to spend. This is the time in the offseason where you’re bargain shopping…..and to get bargains you have to play it right. Showing public interest in Drew only drives the price back up……if they want him cheap it’s best to wait until somebody shows their cards with an offer…..either that will happen or nobody will and his market will hit bottom and they can act.

  251. BIG AL January 24th, 2014 at 11:49 am

    Howe Farr January 24th, 2014 at 11:42 am
    I thought the Olympics celebrated amateur athletes
    ———————————————————-

    I think this is a misconception, the olympics celebrates the very best athletes in their field, why not include MLBers (if the add baseball)?
    *******************************************

    You are correct, the best athletes, period!

    So many nations get to send their best, simply because they call them national team players, not pros, (see Russia) and thus for many countries, they were at a huge disadvantage. The Olympics should simply be the best at each sport competing against each other. It was the policy of our nation to limit it to amateur athletes, not the olympics.

  252. HungerGames January 24th, 2014 at 11:49 am

    Nice post. I have not had time to look through the entire thread, but I think people who are longing for Cano should realize is that he was not going to give the Yankees a discount. And that was his prerogative. I love the Seattle area, but I think he made a mistake chasing paper. Contrast that with Lester (from an ESPN article yesterday):

    BOSTON — Red Sox pitcher Jon Lester, who is eligible for free agency after the 2014 season, emphatically stated Thursday that his desire is to remain with Boston, and he expressed a willingness to take a discount in order to do so.

    “These guys are my No. 1 priority,” Lester said during media availability at the Boston Baseball Writers’ Association of America awards dinner. “I want to be here ’til they rip this jersey off my back.”

  253. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 24th, 2014 at 11:50 am

    Just a reminder that you can add/change predictions any time up to the first pitch of the regular season. What you guess now doesn’t have to be etched in stone.

  254. HungerGames January 24th, 2014 at 11:51 am

    Trisha,

    I agree with you. I say 101 wins for the Yankees in 2014.

  255. BIG AL January 24th, 2014 at 11:52 am

    Later – Y’all have a great day!

  256. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 24th, 2014 at 11:52 am

    HungerGames – I’m not longing for Cano. I loved the kid but he made his choice. If you don’t adjust (as a fan) you get left behind.

    ************

    The Olympics were originally set up to celebrate amateur athletes.

  257. Cashmoney January 24th, 2014 at 11:53 am

    As a fan, I love to see homegrown players displaying the type loyalties that Pedroia and Lester have shown to the Sox. But I don’t demand it.

  258. Howe Farr January 24th, 2014 at 12:23 pm

    The Olympics were originally set up to celebrate amateur athletes.
    _________________________________________________________

    I think the olympics were set up to celebrate the athlete. Like many things, the status of that athlete evolved. And as our coorporate society and the eastern block evolved, so did the amatuer status of the athlete. It’s similiar to thinking that MLB was originally set up to celebrate the white athlete. That change, so did the amatuer status.

    Let the best play.

  259. MTU January 24th, 2014 at 12:25 pm

    New one ——–>

  260. rynamay January 24th, 2014 at 1:42 pm

    “I can’t kill the Yanks for the Cano situation. They offered him 7 years at 25 mill per. They made it clear froim the beginning that they were absoluitely not going to go 10 years with anyone anymore over the age of 30.”

    my only criticism…and i’ve been saying this since July…..is that if they were always going to draw a line in the sand at 175, then they should have traded him because he was always leaving at that number IMO…..it’s a lot of money yes but he had made it clear there would be no discounts and he was going to get 200+ million from somebody. If they weren’t willing to do what it took to sign him…..then they should have traded him. That’s the opportunity loss now……

    ——–

    I think Cano is a great player, and I also think the Yankees made him a very fair offer. So I just can’t fault the Yankees for not wanting to commit 10 years at that kind of salary to a player that age. It’s a mistake no matter who the player is. Think the Angels regret the Pujols contract? If there were never a question about desire or work ethic, then it would be a tougher call. But as it is, now it’s Seattle’s mistake. What the Yankees were counting on is that 7 years in New York (always in contention) would be more exciting and more fulfilling than 10 years somewhere else. I don’t fault players for wanting to make money, but as a fan, it’s hard to wrap my head around playing only for the money and not for championships, history, and legacy. Brian Roberts said as much in his YES interview – this is what players dream of. Maybe since winning is all Cano has ever known, he doesn’t realize how much losing hurts. He will now, if that matters to him at all.

  261. DeeJay January 24th, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    The Yankees are different than most organizations, but they are not THAT different. Yes, winning is very important to them, because they learned a long time ago that WINNING is what makes them money. The Knicks brought in Carmelo Anthony because he’s a star, but they are a terrible team this year, so even though he is an attraction, the most important attraction is not there on a given night – winning. When A-Rod was with the Yankees, yes, he was quite an attraction, but it was because he played on a winning team (a team that was winning before he got there, by the way), and that is what was so attractive. So yes, Cano was home-bred, he put in the years to grow with us, and is clearly one of the best players in the sport. But, and you made this point yourself, he didn’t put fannies in the seats. Isn’t that what a true attraction does? A-Rod, as much as I disliked him, put fannies in the seats. Robby did not. Would Robby have eventually become one of those Yankee icons? More than likely, I think he would have. But it’s not a guarantee. Dave Winfield played his ass off for the Yankees, and he left without as much as a day like Matsui received. I think true Yankee fans appreciate his special talents, but I think he has not yet shown he can actually LEAD a team. 2013 was the first year he actually was forced to lead his team, and he did a pretty decent job of it. But he was always able to hide behind others (A-Rod, Jeter, even Tex), so the pressure of performing during intense moments was lessened to a large extent. He hit lower in the lineup for most of his career with us. Only the last few years has he been given more run-producing responsibilities, and he hasn’t exactly been Jeter in the postseason either. So, while I understand your feelings, I don’t necessarily agree that an automatic icon has been lost. Winning creates icons….period. Anybody can become an icon, they just need the opportunity. Would I have liked Robby to be one of those? Of course, but $30 million is a lot of money, even for the Yankees. Look, the Mariners gave him a crap-load of money, but their payroll isn’t at $200M. How many star players have you heard say that they need help to win? They want their money, but then they want the team to spare no expense for everyone else they need to win. It’s not that simple. Even I know that. Sometimes, even the Yankees have to make tough decisions. I wish Robby had been willing to settle for $200M @ 7 years. I think the Yankees would have done that. But now, we look to our future, to see if we can develop some more icons. Do we plan on utilizing our farm system for that? Time will tell….

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