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Tanaka’s in, A-Rod’s out: Yankees roster close to complete

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 27, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Lyle Overbay, Joe Girardi

Hard to know whether we should believe him, but during last week’s conference call to discuss the Masahiro Tanaka signing, Brian Cashman downplayed the possibility of the Yankees making another impact signing this offseason.

“I’m not going to say we’re not going to try to improve ourselves,” he said. “We’ll just realistically do it in a much cheaper way going forward.”

There will still be plenty of if-the-price-is-right speculation out there — Stephen Drew, additional options at third base, any and all pitchers — but it’s clear the Yankees have done the bulk of their offseason work. With Tanaka under contract, and Alex Rodriguez suspended for the season, we have a fairly complete picture of the group that will report to Tampa for spring training in a few weeks. There may be a few tweaks here and there, and maybe another addition or two, but this is basically what the Yankees have at the moment. This is the 25-man roster — or some version of it — as it is today.

Derek JeterLINEUP
Jacoby Ellsbury CF
Derek Jeter SS
Carlos Beltran RF
Brian McCann C
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alfonso Soriano DH
Kelly Johnson 3B
Brian Roberts 2B
Brett Gardner LF

Plenty of time to debate the exact order. Frankly, there are any number of ways to line them up, but this seems to the group of regulars the Yankees are planning to use. There may be some platooning — there almost certainly will be at third base — but this is basically the starting nine as it appears today. And it might still look exactly like this.

Lingering questions: The most pressing question is how well will Jeter and Teixeira bounce back from seasons lost to injury? Can Jeter still play shortstop? Can Teixeira still hit home runs? Also, there’s reason to wonder how often Roberts can be in the lineup, and how well Johnson can play a position he’s rarely played in the past.
Work to do in spring training:
Getting Jeter physically prepared, getting Soriano used to right field, and giving Johnson plenty of grounders at third base. Oh, and Joe Girardi needs to figure out in what order these guys are actually going to hit.
Worth the investment? Infield is still the lineup’s greatest weakness, and Stephen Drew is still available. No real indication that the Yankees are in the mix for him, but he does seem to be their best chance to make a serious lineup upgrade.
Wild card: Is there any chance a trade offer presents itself that takes Gardner out of this mix? Seems like that might be the most significant transaction that could happen between now and spring training to alter the look of the regular lineup.

Ichiro SuzukiBENCH
Brendan Ryan INF
Ichiro Suzuki (or Zoilo Almonte) OF
Eduardo Nunez (or Scott Sizemore) 3B
Francisco Cervelli (or Austin Romine) C

It really seems that Ryan is the only player locked into a bench spot. For now we have to assume that Ichiro is also a heavy, heavy favorite to break camp with the big league team, but it’s worth at least acknowledging the possibility that the Yankees might trade Ichiro in search of either a bullpen arm or a C-level prospect. The other two spots on the bench seem to be legitimate competitions, and they might include more candidates than the ones listed here.

Lingering questions: The biggest question is who’s going to fill the right-handed half of the third-base platoon. Girardi has left no doubt that Nunez is a serious candidate, and the Yankees have already signed Sizemore to a minor league deal with a chance to compete. Ronnier Mustelier, Russ Canzler and Yangervis Solarte are also part of this conversation (and maybe Dean Anna as well, though he’s left-handed). The Yankees also have to choose between Cervelli and Romine — and maybe J.R. Murphy — for the backup catcher job.
Work to do in spring training: The Yankees might have to mix-and-match a lot in the infield, so Ryan and whoever’s going to split time at third base will need to spend at least a little bit of time at other positions. Might also be worth giving Kelly Johnson some time in the outfield. And one easily overlooked need: The Yankees have to find someone who can back up at first base from time to time.
Worth the investment? The Yankees will remain on the lookout for infielders, especially guys who might be able to help at third base. One name that still stands out is right-handed hitter Jeff Baker, whose played all four corners, plus second base, and has a history of crushing lefties.
Wild card: The possibility of trading Ichiro is one wild card, but the greater wild card might be Jeter’s ability to play shortstop. If he can’t do it, Ryan will become an everyday player, Jeter will (in theory) move to some other position, and the makeup of the bench could change considerably.

CC SabathiaROTATION
CC Sabathia
Hiroki Kuroda
Masahiro Tanaka
Ivan Nova
Michael Pineda (or David Phelps)

Kind of like the lineup, we can debate which pitcher deserves which label within the rotation, but I still tend to think Sabathia will be given the Opening Day nod because of his history and because the Yankees won’t want to increase the already immense pressure on Tanaka. Might even drop him into the No. 4 spot behind Nova. There’s a ton of potential with a lot of uncertainty in this rotation, but it’s much deeper than it was 48 hours ago.

Lingering questions: Can Sabathia transition and bounce back? How many innings should Kuroda pitch? Will Nova find some consistency? What exactly is Tanaka going to do against Major League hitters? And, of course, there’s this lingering question…
Work to do in spring training: Who’s the fifth starter? The best-case scenario is probably Pineda, because winning the job would seem to be an indication that his shoulder is healthy and his arm is strong. If it’s not him, though, the Yankees have a handful of options beyond Phelps. Adam Warren is still in the mix, as is Vidal Nuno. It’s also worth keeping Manny Banuelos in the back of your mind.
Worth the investment? There are still a bunch of solid pitchers out there, some of whom have quite a bit of upside, especially in the short term. There’s a good chance Ubaldo Jimenez or Ervin Santana could be terrific in 2014, but are they worth a significant amount of money and years? Is it worth adding a guy like Paul Maholm (or perhaps more likely, Johan Santana) to the fifth starter mix?
Wild card: In a rotation full of wild cards, it’s hard to pick just one. Tanaka is obviously the one that stands out, but Pineda also has some high-end potential, and Banuelos could be in this conversation by mid-summer.

David RobertsonBULLPEN
Dave Robertson
Shawn Kelley
Matt Thornton
Preston Claiborne (or Cesar Cabral)
Dellin Betances (or Mark Montgomery)
David Phelps (or Chase Whitley)
Adam Warren (or Jose Ramirez)

For this list, I’m reasonably confident the top three guys will break camp in the big league bullpen. Rest of the list? I’m honestly not sure. Frankly, I doubt we have a complete list of bullpen candidates just yet. The list of guys who might make the team is exceptionally long — didn’t even mention the group of experienced guys like David Herndon who are coming to camp on minor league deals — but the list of guys locked into jobs is incredibly short. 

Lingering questions: Grant Balfour is off the market, but would the Yankees spend money on a guy like Fernando Rodney to bring some additional experience and depth to the late innings? That’s got to be the biggest bullpen question facing these next three weeks or so. It’s fair to wonder whether the Yankees will carry a second lefty, and which young starters might make good relievers, but for the next three weeks the bigger question is whether the Yankees are going to add another impact arm to the mix.
Work to do in spring training: It’s basically impossible to get Robertson adjusted to the ninth inning during spring training. Pitching the ninth in the middle of March is nothing like pitching the ninth in the middle of August, so that’s not really on the to-do list. The work to do in spring training is all about sorting through the candidates to find the pieces that work (and the pieces that fit). It’s not particularly unusual for spring training, just has a lot more options than usual.
Worth the investment? Obviously this question centers on a guy like Rodney, but what about Ryan Madson? Or Andrew Bailey? Or Joel Hanrahan? There are some pretty good relievers out there who might be — or might not be — still pretty good after serious injuries.
Wild card: It’s a bullpen. They’re all wild cards. In this situation, though, the wild card might be a series of minor league starters who might play up as short-inning relievers. Jose Ramirez has always stood out ever since his strong showing in big league camp last spring, but what about a guy like Phelps or Warren? Could one of them become a little more potent in a one-inning situation?

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61 Responses to “Tanaka’s in, A-Rod’s out: Yankees roster close to complete”

  1. Captain Clutch January 27th, 2014 at 2:23 pm

    @BryanHoch

    Stephen Drew could’ve helped infield, but Yankees’ $$ is spent after Tanaka signing. They’re open for business, but prob. nothing else big.

  2. bigdan22 January 27th, 2014 at 2:24 pm

    Re-post;

    Jerkface January 27th, 2014 at 2:13 pm
    I agree that Gardner and Robertson were on the Yanks’ radar. But they were ridiculously underrated by the prospect industry

    Again, I disagree. Top 100 lists are going to be dominated by high ceiling position players and starting pitchers. That is just the way it goes. Those are the most valuable things in the industry so guys with that ceiling will be on those lists. That doesn’t stop Sickels, Goldstein, et al from rating players like Gardner and Robertson highly and grading them as being probable major league starters.

    You’re only going to get around ~3 prospects per team on a top 100 list, so there simply isn’t room for everyone. That does not make a player underrated. You’re going to see a bias towards high ceiling or high floor players on the list.

    —–

    Once again, if what you say is true that prospects list are dominated by “high ceiling” players, exactly how do you become “high ceiling?” Bonuses, physical size, high draft status and the hype machine play a role in that.

    And BTW, the Sox have 9 on the most recent MLB list. Bias can come in all forms. . .

  3. bigdan22 January 27th, 2014 at 2:35 pm

    I think Chad has provided a pretty good summary of where the Yanks are now and the to-do list going forward.

    I would add that I think the Yanks need to find someone who can play 1b more than occasionally. I think there’s a decent chance Tex could go down for a few weeks and I don’t think there’s anyone on the roster now who could fill in for that long a period. Not sure there’s anyone at Scranton either. I think it would behoove the Yanks to start giving McCann serious time at 1b since that may end up being his position at some point in the future.

  4. Jerkface January 27th, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    The scouting reports of the players before they are drafted say high ceiling, simply being drafted doesn’t change that or else the Yankees would have got Cito Culver & Dante Jr. on a top 100 list.

  5. Poetkiosk January 27th, 2014 at 2:42 pm

    bigdan22 – Not sure there’s anyone at Scranton either. I think it would behoove the Yanks to start giving McCann serious time at 1b since that may end up being his position at some point in the future.

    ————

    What a great idea. I’d love to see that, since I would prefer not to go down the road we went down with Posada. Way better to start now with some time at 1B.

    Pretty shocking to realize how shallow our player development is…wow, how did those guys not all get fired?

  6. bigdan22 January 27th, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    Jerkface January 27th, 2014 at 2:31 pm

    What I’m saying is that top 100 lists are not the be all end all of prospect discussion and just because a guy does not make a top 100 list does not mean they are underrated or in some other dimension.

    ——

    This argument reminds me of when grad schools say, “GPAs are not the only thing we look at for admissions. We also look at what clubs you’ve joined too.” And then you find out 90% of the freshman were in the top 10 percentile in GPA haha.

    Of course top 100 lists are not the entirety of prospect discussion. But every “expert” who creates a list puts his top 100 prospects in that list and how they get there is often the result of industry bias that is demonstrated by how many players who are not on the list actually out-perform those on it. The Gardners and Robertsons of the world.

  7. bigdan22 January 27th, 2014 at 2:51 pm

    Jerkface January 27th, 2014 at 2:38 pm
    The scouting reports of the players before they are drafted say high ceiling, simply being drafted doesn’t change that or else the Yankees would have got Cito Culver & Dante Jr. on a top 100 list.

    ——-

    Interesting you picked out Cito Culver. That’s another industry bias as well. I’m not trying to defend that pick but guys like him (and Trout) often get undervalued because they played high school ball in a cold climate. They just don’t get scouted as heavily.

  8. AAA January 27th, 2014 at 2:56 pm

    But every “expert” who creates a list puts his top 100 prospects in that list and how they get there is often the result of industry bias that is demonstrated by how many players who are not on the list actually out-perform those on it

    =======================================

    There is a reason they’re called “prospects” you know?

  9. AAA January 27th, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    Better yet, explain the “industry bias”. What is it for? What is it against? What does it like and dislike?

  10. Hankflorida January 27th, 2014 at 3:03 pm

    If Suzuki is still in the mix to achieve 3000 hits, why would he be content to be a bench player. It makes sense that there is a team out there who could use him and in turn, bolster their attendance. If Gardner goes, then it stands to reason that he plays regularly with Almonte as the back up.

  11. AAA January 27th, 2014 at 3:04 pm

    It makes sense that there is a team out there who could use him and in turn, bolster their attendance

    =================================

    I can’t think of an MLB team whose attendance would be boosted by Ichiro’s rather minimal presence at this point.

  12. blake January 27th, 2014 at 3:07 pm

    “Stephen Drew could’ve helped infield, but Yankees’ $$ is spent after Tanaka signing. They’re open for business, but prob. nothing else big.”

    Spending half a billion and having no infield is dumb

  13. yanks61 January 27th, 2014 at 3:10 pm

    blake January 27th, 2014 at 2:12 pm
    Williams 1941: .406 , 33 homers, 120 RBI, 235 OPS +

    Advantage the Ted

    ——————————————————————————-

    Ha, ha, fair enough Blake. That’s the offensive side of the ledger (though not completely – how can we factor in Mantle’s lightening speed on the bases and what that did to the defense and pitchers as they set up to face batters after Mick got on?)

    However, it’s also worth noting that Total Baseball gives Mantle a TPR (Total Player Rating) of 8.7 for the 56 season and Ted a TPR of 7.9. So there’s one source that considers Mantle to be the greater overall offensive player when comparing those two years.

    Then, once you weigh the defensive side into the equation, it seems to me that there’s no comparison. Ted was a so-so LF. Mantle was an elite CF.

  14. Jerkface January 27th, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    I don’t like the constant tweetings and opinings over the Yankees spending ‘half a billion’ this offseason. They made commitments for half a billion over various lengths of time, but their spending this offseason has been more like 110 million with 130 million coming off the books at the start of the offseason.

  15. Jerkface January 27th, 2014 at 3:14 pm

    Chances are we won’t see ‘Yankees win world series after reducing payroll by 20 million!’ in any headlines next season were that to happen.

  16. blake January 27th, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    I don’t like the constant tweetings and opinings over the Yankees spending ‘half a billion’ this offseason. They made commitments for half a billion over various lengths of time, but their spending this offseason has been more like 110 million with 130 million coming off the books at the start of the offseason.”

    It still doesn’t make any sense to spend all that money and leave such a hole in the infield…..they lost all their draft picks….blew away a budget they spend 3 years positioning for…..why stop and leave yourself with one of the worst defensive infielder in badeball

  17. AAA January 27th, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    I don’t like the constant tweetings and opinings over the Yankees spending ‘half a billion’ this offseason

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    Doesn’t make much difference to me what number you call it. They did what they had to do to compete again. If the only gun in the arsenal is a check book, so be it. Pull it out and fire away. Worked in 2009 and it can work again now.

  18. blake January 27th, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    There is a big difference in having bad infield defense when your infield is Miguel Cabrera, Peralta, and Fielder…..and your pitching staff Ks ton of guys……and the Yankees having a bunch of question marks and pitchers who need ground ball outs.

    If they don’t address it it will hurt them a lot IMO…..

  19. Jerkface January 27th, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    I agree its stupid that the Yankees would go over 189 then have the infield as currently composed, which is why I bring up the point that they havent really spent 500 million. There is room for them to reach their previous payroll high because they’ve really only pumped ~100 mil back into the club.

  20. Jerkface January 27th, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    Doesn’t make much difference to me what number you call it. They did what they had to do to compete again. If the only gun in the arsenal is a check book, so be it. Pull it out and fire away. Worked in 2009 and it can work again now.

    Yea I like the spending, I just don’t agree with how its portrayed by everyone. Its usually in some kind of negative slant. Its not like they put 500 million into next years roster, or were at 200 million already and then put 100 mil ontop of that. They had so much coming off the books that it would have been hard for them to field a team next year that wasn’t crap without spending.

  21. blake January 27th, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    “Ha, ha, fair enough Blake. That’s the offensive side of the ledger (though not completely – how can we factor in Mantle’s lightening speed on the bases and what that did to the defense and pitchers as they set up to face batters after Mick got on?)”

    True….Ted didn’t do much but hit. But he’s the best ever swinging the stick to me

  22. Hankflorida January 27th, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    I can’t think of an MLB team whose attendance would be boosted by Ichiro’s rather minimal presence at this point.

    AAA, a Japenese ballplayer going for 3000 hits may not enhance the actual attendance by much,
    but there is a TV market that definitely brings in those extra bucks. I just can’t see Suzuki being content with a secondary role while having a chance to reach that exclusive club and in such a short time in the big leagues.

  23. blake January 27th, 2014 at 3:22 pm

    The yanks are at roughly 205 now I think for tax purposes…..that’s 25 million less than last year. Fix the infield

  24. blake January 27th, 2014 at 3:23 pm

    I think the concern isn’t this year though….it’s adding payroll on to 2015 when Arods money will be back. The payroll is 205 now….but it’s really closer to 230 if Arod counted

  25. exiledintampa January 27th, 2014 at 3:30 pm

    Back in the day, when i coached my son’s LL team, The best athelete hands down was Kelly Kretschman. She had an outstanding curve and FB. and could hit a ton. All-State in Softball, Basketball and Soccer. She caught and played SS and Of on 2 Olympic teams. Girls can play.

  26. yanks61 January 27th, 2014 at 3:34 pm

    True….Ted didn’t do much but hit. But he’s the best ever swinging the stick to me

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    Absolutely agree, Blake. I didn’t start following BB until the early fifties, but Ted was a force right to his last at bat. The greatest hitter I ever saw – as a pure hitter. And that’s true even though I saw him hitting after two long absences in the military and in the last 7 years or so of his career.

    It may have been mentioned here before, but DiMaggio was reputedly asked what he thought about Ted and supposedly relied that “he was the greatest hitter I ever saw.” The questioner then asked “and as a BB player in general?” and Joe supposedly repeated, “The greatest hitter I ever saw.” I guess that says it all.

    And I’ll say good night (and good afternoon.)

  27. Captain Clutch January 27th, 2014 at 3:37 pm

    They have to get another good infielder. If they go into the season with who they have now and 40 year old Jeter they are asking for a disaster. After spending what they have another $10m isn’t going to kill them. Actually at this point they don’t have a choice. Cashman can say whatever he wants but they can’t go into the season with this infield.

  28. Your Name Here January 27th, 2014 at 3:40 pm

    You’re only going to get around ~3 prospects per team on a top 100 list, so there simply isn’t room for everyone

    ————————————————

    20 prospects from the AL East made the top 100 for MLB.com.
    2 from Yanks
    9 from Sox

  29. blake January 27th, 2014 at 3:42 pm

    From what I’ve read Ted and DiMaggio didn’t care for each other much at least when they played …..

  30. AAA January 27th, 2014 at 3:43 pm

    Its usually in some kind of negative slant

    =========================================

    It’s not without merit, IMO. Fact is they spent the past 2.5 seasons gearing up for this $189M and ended up failing miserably on several levels, most notably player development. This was a spending spree that wasn’t supposed to happen, but rather had to happen. To Hal’s credit, he did what needed doing and that’s a good thing, but the fact they had to is not necessarily good.

  31. blake January 27th, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    Ted vs DiMaggio seems kinda similar to the Miggy vs Trout debates today. Better hitter vs better overall player

  32. AAA January 27th, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    From what I’ve read Ted and DiMaggio didn’t care for each other much at least when they played …..

    ===============================

    Oddly Ted and Joe’s brother were quite tight.

  33. Jerkface January 27th, 2014 at 3:45 pm

    It’s not without merit, IMO. Fact is they spent the past 2.5 seasons gearing up for this $189M and ended up failing miserably on several levels, most notably player development. This was a spending spree that wasn’t supposed to happen, but rather had to happen. To Hal’s credit, he did what needed doing and that’s a good thing, but the fact they had to is not necessarily good.

    Meh, even if they were trying to get under 189, presuming A-rod is always suspended, they still could have spent ’400 million!!!!’ in one offseason and gotten under.

    Suppose everything went right for the Yankees and they had a bunch of prospects or whatever come up and be good, they were going to run out a payroll of 120 million next year?

    Doubt it!

  34. bigdan22 January 27th, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    Expectations are so low for the Yanks current infield that I suspect those expectations will be exceeded. That still may not be satisfactory but we will see nevertheless.

    This is a total guess on my part, but I think Ryan will see a lot of SS and Nunie will see a lot of 3b. I think Johnson will see more 2b than 3b because as much as we’d all like to see Roberts succeed, I think he’s this year’s Youk. But thankfully cheaper. I just think it’s highly unlikely that a player at his age who has missed so much time as he has the last few years will hold up very long.

    I don’t believe these scenarios are a mystery to the organization. They just believe the current solutions in the marketplace do not supply sufficient value to justify price. There is also a good deal of uncertainty right now about Jeter and a small but distinct chance that Arod will obtain an injunction and play in 2014. All reasons to wait.

  35. blake January 27th, 2014 at 3:48 pm

    “This is a total guess on my part, but I think Ryan will see a lot of SS and Nunie will see a lot of 3b. I”

    Lol

  36. Hankflorida January 27th, 2014 at 3:51 pm

    True….Ted didn’t do much but hit. But he’s the best ever swinging the stick to me

    Blake, we are on the same page with Williams when it comes to his bat,, but DiMag’s 1941 season was greater then Teds because of the 56 game hitting streak, the best glove in the business and the pennant and World Series win; even Mantle’s triple crown year pales in comparison to DiMag mainly because of the streak. Mickey always played hurt so we never witnessed what might have been, and in my estimation, Joltin Joe was the best fielding center fielder that I ever saw; he made the difficult look easy because he was always in the right place from the crack of the bat. Pete Reiser would crash into the wall making a tumbling catch, and on a similar play, DiMag would just be there. One had to see him play because the stats never tell the whole story.

  37. Wave Your Hat January 27th, 2014 at 4:03 pm

    Now that the Tanaka excitement is wearing off a little, I can’t help but wonder how good the Yanks are if the following highly possible circumstances occur (I won’t say these circumstances are likely, just highly possible):

    1. Soriano is the player he was 2009-2012 rather than 2013;
    2. CC has another season like last year;
    3. Jeter can’t play SS, can’t stay in the llneup or gets old; and
    4. Teixeira is not 100%.

  38. Kelvin January 27th, 2014 at 4:04 pm

    I think they can add payroll next year.. consider Kuroda gone, that is about $15M. Gardner too, unless extended. I’m sure more players are free agents too.

  39. Shame Spencer January 27th, 2014 at 4:09 pm

    Nunez seeing a lot of anything besides the bench is probably not a good thing…

    Thanks for the info on women pitchers, btw. I didn’t have time to check in on the details.

  40. Tyler January 27th, 2014 at 4:13 pm

    Wish A-Rod would just fade off into the sunset for good.. he’s more than comfortable.

  41. Pat M. January 27th, 2014 at 4:16 pm

    I remember reading a comment by Leo ” The Lip ” Durocher when he was asked about Mantle & Mays. H is solution would be to play the two of them in the outfield by themselves and just rotate the extra ab’s in the order…… Had to get some maintanence shots today in my lower back, and low and beyond the original Agent 99 ( Barbara Feldon )walks in and sits in the chair next to me……She’s 80 or so now, but she clearly has the great facial features, the legs and of course that voice……I had met her a few years back at the local Cadillac dealership here in town and I told her that I as a young boy loved her Brylcream commercials….She smiled and did her tiger growl.

  42. bigdan22 January 27th, 2014 at 4:16 pm

    Ignoring the pitching staff for a minute (which I think will be a strength), for the 2014 Yankee team to succeed they will need to rely on some quality depth. Not only are the position players old, but look at how many of them have missed significant playing time the last couple of years. McCann, Jeter, Tex, Roberts, Gardner, Ellsbury. And then you have Beltran and Soriano in their late 30s.

    If this team succeeds, they’ll contributions from guys like Ichiro, Nunez, Almonte , Cervelli, Murphy and maybe Anna or Seizmore or even Heathcott. I’m expecting a lot of turnover in the lineup and in the 25 man roster.

  43. jmills January 27th, 2014 at 4:21 pm

    I remember agent99, Barbara Feldon. Cool character.

  44. MTU January 27th, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    I’m w Blake.

    Yankees didn’t come this far to go with significant holes in the IF and pen.

    Doesn’t make sense.

    It will get fixed.

  45. Wave Your Hat January 27th, 2014 at 4:39 pm

    “If this team succeeds, they’ll contributions from guys like Ichiro, Nunez, Almonte , Cervelli, Murphy and maybe Anna or Seizmore or even Heathcott”

    I don’t mean to be pessimistic, but that’s unlikely to happen. If the Yanks need those guys they are in trouble.

  46. MTU January 27th, 2014 at 4:43 pm

    Have to believe if we see the weaknesses the Yankees certainly do and they will address them.

    You don’t spend close to 500 Mil in contracts only to leave yourself vulnerable.

  47. Wave Your Hat January 27th, 2014 at 4:44 pm

    “You don’t spend close to 500 Mil in contracts only to leave yourself vulnerable.”

    But they aren’t spending all $500M this year. In fact, aren’t they spending less this year than they did last year, or close to it?

  48. MTU January 27th, 2014 at 4:47 pm

    Yes Wave.

    I was just talking about cumulative commitments.

    They have headroom left for this season.

    they are at about 212-214 right now.

    Working budget is about 230ish.

  49. UpState January 27th, 2014 at 4:48 pm

    Now Elliot Johnson’s gone !
    Gone to Cleveland….
    …another middle infielder we took a ‘pass’ on.

    (good idea)

  50. tom tresh 15 January 27th, 2014 at 4:48 pm

    Pat M , agent 99 was a baby doll back then

  51. Wave Your Hat January 27th, 2014 at 4:50 pm

    We are dating ourselves if talk about what a babe Agent 99 was.

  52. MTU January 27th, 2014 at 4:52 pm

    Things grow well in the nice So. Cal climate.

    :)

  53. Wave Your Hat January 27th, 2014 at 4:52 pm

    MTU-

    I think cumulative commitments are kind of meaningless, since they do expect to have to field a team after 2014.

    What worries me a little is that the Yanks have been known to play without much of a bench, so despite the overall payroll being down it wouldn’t be uncharacteristic of them to leave it pretty much the way it is now.

    Hopefully, that won’t happen.

  54. Yankeeclipper January 27th, 2014 at 4:53 pm

    The same people who complain about Yanks not giving their minor leaguers a shot are the same folks who diss Nunez. I think Nunez has some solid upside. The team has an extra gear when he plays. He looked good defensively and offensively in September. He needs to stay healthy and play regularly. I think his speed coupled with Gardner and Ellsbury really gives the Yanks a multi-faceted offense.

    I am comfortable if he plays 3B, SS and 2B as part of a rotation with Johnson, JEter and Roberts.

  55. tomingeorgia January 27th, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    Wave Your Hat,
    Actually, I like Princess Summer Fall Winter Spring better!

  56. MTU January 27th, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    Wave-

    The Pen is not the bench.

    They could use D-Rob insurance.

    My take is that they have capital left but are waiting for bargains now.

    Like the old game show “The Price is right”.

    :)

  57. UpState January 27th, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    Alot of the folks who have dissed Nunnie…

    ….have painfully watched him play.

    Regardless if we want HG players passionately or not.

    (trade him to an NL club – everybody’s a winner)

  58. Hankflorida January 27th, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    Pat, bringing up Feldon and “Get Smart,” reminds me of when I first saw Don Adams in 1957 when he was appearing for the summer as a comedian at a resort called Green Mansions. It was there that he met his second wife former June Taylor dancer, Dorothy Bracken, who was a dancer in the show. That memory only stayed with me because years later, he became somebody, he became a contender.”

  59. Wave Your Hat January 27th, 2014 at 5:02 pm

    MTU-

    Yeah, I was thinking about the bench. They need help in the pen too, although there I think some of their minor league guys could help as long as Girardi is willing to use them.

  60. MTU January 27th, 2014 at 5:03 pm

    New one ———>

  61. Hankflorida January 27th, 2014 at 5:12 pm

    Oddly Ted and Joe’s brother were quite tight

    AAA, Dom DiMaggio played center with Williams in left. Dom was a good fielder and was a good table setter for the Red Sox. Joe’s other brother, Vince DiMaggio, played for the Pirates, and he was a good fielder with a good arm but would strike out most of the time when the ball was not over the fence.

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