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Pinch hitting: Carter LaCorte

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 31, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Never done this before, but in this case, I couldn’t help myself. We’re going with two Pinch Hitters today, both writing about the same topic. Building on Derek’s morning post, we now have further bullpen analysis from Carter LaCorte.

Carter’s 7 years old. He’s a second grader in Northport, N.Y. He collects baseball cards, plays Little League, and he wants to be a baseball player when he grows up. He’s been to spring training, Opening Day, the playoffs, and an All-Star game. Seems plenty qualified to me.

For his post, Carter wanted to give his breakdown of how he sees the Yankees bullpen shaking out during spring training. His father passed along a picture of some of the notes Carter was taking while working on his analysis. I have a notebooks full of paper that looks pretty similar.

1-31 Carter's notesThere will be lots of changes in the Yankees bullpen in 2014.

With Mo retired, the former setup man, David Robertson will have to close. With no returning setup man, either Matt Thornton or Shawn Kelley will set up. Probably Kelley will pitch the eighth more because in 2013 he pitched 53.1 IP with 71 K’s. Thornton was setup/closer for the White Sox, but Kelley had more K’s and was great last year.

Preston Claiborne will probably pitch the seventh. Last year Claiborne didn’t walk a lot of guys and righties only hit .204 off him.

With our former best lefty, Boone Logan, gone, our lefties will have to be either Thornton or rookie Cesar Cabral. Thornton was good vs. lefties and righties with the Sox. Cabral’s minor league stats in 2013 vs. lefties included 25 strikeouts and eight walks in 59 at-bats.

David Phelps and Adam Warren can help a little if all of the starters are not hurt. Dellin Betances can also help in the bullpen if it needs help.

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98 Responses to “Pinch hitting: Carter LaCorte”

  1. blake January 31st, 2014 at 11:49 am

    favorite guest post ever. Nice work!

  2. MTU January 31st, 2014 at 11:54 am

    Blake-

    Of course YOU would think that.

    :)

  3. Oscar Madison January 31st, 2014 at 11:54 am

    Carter u da man ! ! !

    Good job ! ! !

  4. mick January 31st, 2014 at 11:58 am

    This kid is good!!!

  5. Locke January 31st, 2014 at 11:58 am

    Carter, great work! We appreciate your post.

    Not surprisingly your article is better than 95% of the stuff we write in the comments section. :)

    Keep working hard and hopefully we’ll see you in the big leagues some day.

  6. bigdan22 January 31st, 2014 at 12:02 pm

    It seems like the modern bullpen is built around more than a couple guys who throw really hard and rely primarily on the strike out. It’s ok if your closer pitches to contact since he’s starting the 9th. But your 8th inning and earlier guys are likely to come in with men on base and nothing puts out the fire like gas.

    It’s nice that Kelly uses the K. I’m starting to envision a young Yankee knockout relief corps of Betances and Ramirez. It would be good if you could add a lefty to that. Wasn’t that Lewis guy throwing 97 in Arizona?

  7. Cashmoney January 31st, 2014 at 12:03 pm

    Good Job Carter! Short and sweet analysis.

  8. blake January 31st, 2014 at 12:04 pm

    I would guess either Phelps or Pineda will be in the pen and could have a big role.

  9. Howler January 31st, 2014 at 12:05 pm

    Chad’s going to be looking for a job…

  10. Hankflorida January 31st, 2014 at 12:06 pm

    After his playing days, Carter could be the Yankees GM.

    Best knuckler- Niekro or Wilhelm

    MTU, “in my yoot,” the best knuckler was Dutch Leonard as he could really make the ball dance, and then came Neikro to overshadow him. Today, no one talks about the screw ball or the fork ball as in my day, there was never the mention of a cutter or splitter.

  11. Howler January 31st, 2014 at 12:09 pm

    My guess the 5th starter is Pineda’s to lose, and that’s only if he gets injured. They’ve got too much invested in him as a starter to try to turn him into a reliever now. As much as I’d hate to see it I believe Phelps is headed to the pen, or out of town.

  12. blake January 31st, 2014 at 12:10 pm

    CHConfidential ?@CHConfidential 5m
    Who do you think is the best switch-hitter of all-time & why? Reply w/ #TouchingBase & see if your comments make it on-air at 3:30pE!

    Clearly Mantle right? other candidates…..Chipper, Murray, Berkman, Tex! (kidding).

    Career OPS+:

    Mantle: 172
    Chipper: 141
    Murray: 129
    Berkman: 143

    Any others? I’m drawing a blank but Mick is clearly the best switch hitter ever.

  13. Chip January 31st, 2014 at 12:12 pm

    The problem with fixing the infield is numbers.

    Assume that you have a current 25 man roster of:

    Ellsbury – CF
    Jeter – SS
    Beltran – RF
    Soriano – DH
    McCann – C
    Tex – 1b
    Johnosn – 3b
    Roberts – 2b
    Gardner – LF

    Bench: Cervelli, Ryan, Ichiro, _______

    Rotation
    CC
    Tanaka
    Kuroda
    Nova
    Pineda

    Pen:
    Thornton, Cabral
    Robertson, Phelps, Kelley, Claiborne, Betances

    That leaves 1 bench spot open for someone out of the group of Anna, Sizemore, Nunez, Pirela, Wheeler, CoJo to grab – sure you can sign Drew and move Johnson to the bench, but all you’ve done then is move your most reliable (in terms of health) player out of the starting lineup – you still have the same three question marks in it.

    You can sign Jeff Baker for the bench, that’s fine – but Sizemore can give you most of what Baker can offensively against LHP and he’s a better defensive player too.

    You can sign Drew and Baker, put Johnson on the bench and delete Ichiro with Soriano and Johnson serving as your back up OF options (Gardner gives you coverage in CF)

    Realistically though, the fourth spot on the bench isn’t going to be what protects the team against injuries in the infield – If Jeter goes down long term then it will likely be Nunez, not Ryan, coming up from the minors to play. If Roberts gets hurt, hopefully CoJo’s shoulder is healthy and he can hit like he did in 2012, or Jose Pirela can continue to progress, or Dean Anna or Scott Sizemore. At 1b, that’s a little more thin…Zellous Wheeler and Kyle Roller are both 3b, maybe they could move over…maybe they sign a Casey Kotchman to a minor league deal – the answer is I don’t know.

    Bottom line with all of this is that when you have only 2 bench spots that can go to infielders and have 3 infielders with serious health questions – you’re not going to have coverage there in the event someone gets hurt – that coverage has to come from the minor leagues. That’s where the Yankees need to add protection.

  14. bigdan22 January 31st, 2014 at 12:14 pm

    blake January 31st, 2014 at 12:04 pm

    I would guess either Phelps or Pineda will be in the pen and could have a big role.

    —–

    That’s certainly possible but not ideal, especially with Pineda. The Yanks will do everything in their power to make him a successful starter. He will be the new Hughes. Too much reputational capital riding on him.

    I thought early last season Phelps was becoming ideal trade bait. But I backed off that thinking because his value hadn’t been built up enough and then he got hurt. To me, he’s got cheap back end starter written all over him. As we all know, that’s extremely valuable, both on the trade market and to the Yanks. I’d like to see him remain as a starter. To me, his performance seems to outweigh his stuff. That’s the definition of a starter. The converse is the definition of a reliever (Betances, Ramirez)

  15. Ys Guy January 31st, 2014 at 12:15 pm

    the idea that they’re holding on to ichiro because he lobbied tanaka on their behalf is crazy.

    and if with tanaka on the team, ichiro’s (additional) marketing value to japanese fans is minimal.

    on top of that, neither of the above are rational reasons for wasting a space on the active roster for ichiro.

  16. Cashmoney January 31st, 2014 at 12:15 pm

    Pete Rose

  17. Howler January 31st, 2014 at 12:21 pm

    Now that Tanaka is signed I see no reason they’d hold on to Ichiro just because he played a part in getting Tanaka here. Old bait smells bad once it sits around too long.

  18. Patrick January 31st, 2014 at 12:21 pm

    the idea that they’re holding on to ichiro because he lobbied tanaka on their behalf is crazy.

    It’s more crazy due to the fact that Ichiro didn’t lobby Tanaka and had absolutely nothing to do with his signing.

  19. Chip January 31st, 2014 at 12:25 pm

    Patrick January 31st, 2014 at 12:21 pm

    the idea that they’re holding on to ichiro because he lobbied tanaka on their behalf is crazy.

    It’s more crazy due to the fact that Ichiro didn’t lobby Tanaka and had absolutely nothing to do with his signing.
    ————————

    Ok, so ideal scenario:

    Deal Ichiro for Putz
    Sign Drew
    Sign Baker
    Sign Diaz

    Drew is the starting 3b with a bench of Ryan, Cervelli, Baker and Johnson and Diaz is in the minor leagues tearing things up.

    Johnson and Soriano can back up in LF and RF and Gardner can back up in CF so theoretically you don’t need a traditional 4th OF with that roster alignment.

  20. Hankflorida January 31st, 2014 at 12:33 pm

    Blake, Mantle is the best switch hitter followed by Rose and Alomar plus your guys. I was going to throw in Frankie Frisch, The Fordam Flash, but did not want you guys to start calling me Rip Van Winkle.

  21. blake January 31st, 2014 at 12:35 pm

    “Pete Rose”

    forgot Rose but Mantle is still the best by a wide margin

  22. bigdan22 January 31st, 2014 at 12:36 pm

    Chip January 31st, 2014 at 12:12 pm

    The problem with fixing the infield is numbers.

    ——–

    That’s a good point Chip . The roster as currently constructed makes it difficult to add more infielders. I said last night there are probably about six good reasons why the Yanks aren’t adding Drew and that’s probably reason number 4 or 5.

    A few thoughts. If the season were to start today, I believe Nunez is the last bench player and I think the Yanks see him now as the platoon RH 3b. That could easily be changed though and he could be sent to Scranton. He doesn’t play tho if Jeter gets hurt. He’s option 3. Ryan was signed to be a potential starting SS if Jeter goes down. There’s been more than one championship team that fielded an all-glove/no bat SS. But if it appears that Jeter will miss most or all of the season, all bets are off (Hello Drew!).

    I’m not sure why folks are penciling in Clairborne. I thought his performance was mixed last year. He’s got to earn his spot and don’t think he has any edge. Outside of Drob, I would think only Kelly and Thornton are secure plus one long man.

    If Roberts goes down, Kelly of course plays 2b. I think that’s a very likely possibility. Lets dismiss CoJo now. Nice bat, but I don’t think there’s a position on a ML infield he can play other than 1b and he’s not a first baseman. They say Anna has a glove. Lets see. Pirela’s glove is supposed to be iron. Let’s see.

    But you are basically right. The depth will be held at Scranton. That’s why the Yanks have added so many of these 4A guys in the offseason.

  23. Patrick January 31st, 2014 at 12:41 pm

    blake,

    Tim Raines is up there too but still nowhere close to Mantle

  24. austinmac January 31st, 2014 at 12:42 pm

    Hank,

    Many were thinking Methusalah.

  25. Chip January 31st, 2014 at 12:45 pm

    bigdan22

    Thanks,

    Like I said, if they want to squeeze another 2 INF onto the ML roster they can do it – they have to move Ichiro and then trust that Johnson and Soriano give them enough coverage in the corner OF spots and that Gardner gives them enough coverage in CF…I have no problem with that plan.

    At that point they can add Drew and Baker – that would give them the following 13 position players:

    Ellsbury – CF
    Jeter – SS
    Beltran – RF
    Soriano – DH
    McCann – C
    Tex – 1b
    Drew – 3b
    Roberts – 2b
    Gardner – LF

    Bench: Cervelli, Ryan, Baker, Johnson

  26. Wave Your Hat January 31st, 2014 at 12:45 pm

    “The depth will be held at Scranton.”

    The depth at Scranton is unsatisfactory. But I agree they won’t fix shortstop until Jeter shows he can’t play it. The problem is the Yankee offense is not good enough to carry an all-glove no-stick guy like Ryan, Nunez is not an adequate full-time replacement anywhere and there is no real replacement for Cano. Sort of a perfect storm shaping up in the infield.

  27. Howler January 31st, 2014 at 12:47 pm

    Many of us would like to forget Rose.

  28. jmills January 31st, 2014 at 12:48 pm

    Hey, Carter, I collect baseball cards and want to be a MLB player too when I grow up! :D I think Robertson will be fine; in Toronto, we had a setup guy in Duane Ward who worked out just fine as a closer. Thanks for making my lunch a worthwhile one.

  29. Hankflorida January 31st, 2014 at 12:48 pm

    austinmac January 31st, 2014 at 12:42 pm
    Hank,

    Many were thinking Methusalah.

    In those days, all you needed was a piece of wood and a rock.

  30. bigdan22 January 31st, 2014 at 12:49 pm

    Was talking about Mark Sanchez yesterday. The Jets have a decision to make in a few weeks. They obviously will cut him so as not to pay him the $13MM under his contract but they could agree to sign him back at his current market value which is said to be 4 or $5MM.

    Wouldn’t that be awesome if you could do that with Tex? What would his market value be, like $12MM? Gotta love the NFL!

  31. Wave Your Hat January 31st, 2014 at 12:49 pm

    As a fan, you couldn’t ask for a better guy than Rose to have on your team. He was a winner.

  32. Cashmoney January 31st, 2014 at 12:52 pm

    What would his market value be
    —–
    Tex, 6 mil with incentive to 12, Jeter, 3 mil with incentive to 8.

  33. Chip January 31st, 2014 at 12:53 pm

    Wave Your Hat January 31st, 2014 at 12:45 pm

    “The depth will be held at Scranton.”

    The depth at Scranton is unsatisfactory. But I agree they won’t fix shortstop until Jeter shows he can’t play it. The problem is the Yankee offense is not good enough to carry an all-glove no-stick guy like Ryan, Nunez is not an adequate full-time replacement anywhere and there is no real replacement for Cano. Sort of a perfect storm shaping up in the infield.
    ————————

    That the depth at Scranton is unsatisfactory is both true and, at the same time, wholly unfixable at the current moment. You can’t make prospects better and players of higher quality than what they have there aren’t going to sign minor league contracts and let themselves be stashed at AAA in case of injury.

    That’s why I am so deeply in favor of signing Diaz. Some reports say he won’t stick at SS but right now he’s there and he can shake off the rust and adjust to ML ball for this year and replace Derek next year.

  34. bigdan22 January 31st, 2014 at 12:53 pm

    Wave Your Hat January 31st, 2014 at 12:45 pm

    “The depth at Scranton is unsatisfactory. But I agree they won’t fix shortstop until Jeter shows he can’t play it. The problem is the Yankee offense is not good enough to carry an all-glove no-stick guy like Ryan, Nunez is not an adequate full-time replacement anywhere and there is no real replacement for Cano. Sort of a perfect storm shaping up in the infield”

    —-

    To quote the great Q from the very same episode:

    –as to the Yankee offense: “the jury is still out on that John Luc”

    –as to the perfect storm infield; “you just can’t predict the weather”

  35. blake January 31st, 2014 at 12:57 pm

    Chipper is probably the 2nd best switch hitter IMO

  36. Howler January 31st, 2014 at 1:00 pm

    If Rose ever became a Yankee…I would’ve found another team.

  37. fuji January 31st, 2014 at 1:00 pm

    carter-

    i really enjoyed hearing from an active player about what you thought with the yankee’s bullpen.

    i’m going to give you a little something to think about.

    what would happen if michael pineda isn’t quite ready to start, but can get outs in the later innings?

    i think he may be a surprise visitor to the 8th or 9th innings this summer.

    have a great season in little league.

  38. Cashmoney January 31st, 2014 at 1:00 pm

    That’s why I am so deeply in favor of signing Diaz.
    —-
    lot of unknowns. ability to play ss at ML league is paramount. secondary question is how much, will the bidding get to a point that the money can be allocated for more assurance thru FA. I am in favor of signing young and almost ready talents, but that is yet to be determined, he could a less talent than Guerrero.

  39. MTU January 31st, 2014 at 1:01 pm

    Looks like the Reds have solved their CF problem.

    “For the Reds, Bernadina may be more of a depth piece than a likely threat to earn a roster spot. Presumably, he takes the opportunity that would have been given Grady Sizemore. Like Sizemore, Bernadina brings the speed and experience to play center field.”

    Have to get Bailey as a FA.

    Probably better that way anyhow.

    ;)

  40. exiledintampa January 31st, 2014 at 1:04 pm

    Whether D-Rob actually has a shot at leading the league in saves will largely depend on the success of the setup guys behind him. No offence to Mo and his greatness, and I don’t have staats to back it up, but having the pen hold a 3 run lead, leads to more saves than 1 run leads. If D-Rob is handed a lot of 1 run leads because the lead schrunk in the 6,7,8 innings he’s gonna have a lot more blown saves. Mo had some really good setup men over the years.

  41. bigdan22 January 31st, 2014 at 1:06 pm

    For all the reasons everyone has mentioned, the Yanks are not favorites to win a championship in 2014. Of course, before every season starts, there are dozens if not hundreds of potential realities that could come to fruition. The one that I think is most likely if the Yanks succeed this year centers around their starting pitching. I can see a scenario where it’s absolutely lights out. That’s probably what it will take for the Yanks to get 28 in ’14.

  42. blake January 31st, 2014 at 1:16 pm

    @Ken_Rosenthal: According to one source, #Orioles’ payroll currently in $85M range. Plan to be over $100M. Question is by how much.

  43. Revenge of Stoneburner January 31st, 2014 at 1:21 pm

    From Law:

    Chris Owings returns to the rankings after an absence of two years; he ranked 84th in 2011 but comical walk rates and a lack of development in his approach at the plate seemed to slow his progress.

    His 2013 line was boosted by playing in hitter-friendly Triple-A Reno, but Owings’ bat speed is undeniable and his swing is simple and direct. I don’t see loft in the swing for home-run power, but he’s an above-average runner and I think he’ll hit plenty of line-drives to the gaps for 30-40 doubles a year. At shortstop, he has great instincts, quick feet, and a plus arm, everything required to be at least a 60-grade defender there — very much what Didi Gregorius was supposed to be, but with better hit and run tools.

    Owings was 17 years old when he signed, so he had 2,000 pro plate appearances before he turned 22 and is more than ready to take over as the everyday shortstop in Arizona now, where he might walk once a week but will contribute in plenty of other ways to keep the job.

  44. Revenge of Stoneburner January 31st, 2014 at 1:25 pm

    Chipper is probably the 2nd best switch hitter IMO

    Murray

  45. 86w183 January 31st, 2014 at 1:27 pm

    To put The Mick’s dominance among switch hitters in perspective consider this.

    He is # 6 All-Time in OPS +, which to me is the best way to compare greatness from different eras. Only Ruth (206), Williams (190), Bonds (182), Gehrig (179) and Hornsby (175) topped Mantle (172).

    The next best switch hitter in that category is Lance Berkman (144).

    My all-time switch hitter team:

    1B. Eddie Murray
    2B. Robbie Alomar
    SS. Ozzie Smith
    3B. Chipper Jones
    LF. Pete Rose
    CF. Mickey Mantle
    RF. Lance Berkman
    DH. Chili Davis
    C. Ted Simmons

    Honorable Mention:

    Reggie Smith, Bernie Williams, Ken Singleton, Garry Templeton, Tim Raines, Carlos Beltran and Jorge Posada

  46. Shame Spencer January 31st, 2014 at 1:34 pm

    Great post!!!

    We have a lot of people that act like children on the blog (I can feel all of you side-eying me right now, stop it!), but it’s nice to get a post from a kid that loves baseball!!

  47. Shame Spencer January 31st, 2014 at 1:35 pm

    CC was on First Take this morning and talked about how when he lost weight he thinks he lost some power but now that he’s built up more muscle this off season he thinks he’ll be able to bounce back nicely.

  48. Shame Spencer January 31st, 2014 at 1:36 pm

    Also: Does anyone think Ralph Lauren specifically designed those Team USA sweaters with Russia’s anti-gay policies in mind…? Cause I think that’d be awesome.

  49. Shame Spencer January 31st, 2014 at 1:46 pm

    MORE IMPORTANTLY: Sharknado 2 is officially in production.

    You’re welcome, world.

  50. Shame Spencer January 31st, 2014 at 1:47 pm

    Alright I’ve given you all enough gold for one day. E’rybody have a good weekend.

  51. blake January 31st, 2014 at 1:49 pm

    “Murray”

    nope

  52. AAA January 31st, 2014 at 1:50 pm

    While we’re on off topic issues, I have a legal question:

    Is the Amanda Knox trial a Best of 7?

  53. blake January 31st, 2014 at 1:51 pm

    Chipper: .303 .401 .529 .930. 141 OPS+
    Murray: .287 .359 .476 .836 129 OPS+

  54. blake January 31st, 2014 at 1:52 pm

    86,

    no Tex? :)

  55. AAA January 31st, 2014 at 1:54 pm

    I’d probably put Berkman ahead of Murray too.

    Chipper a definite #2.

  56. jlacorte January 31st, 2014 at 2:00 pm

    Thanks Chad for giving Carter this amazing opportunity. He was so excited to write his entry and refused to let me help him. We are so proud of him. Maybe he will be a GM or sportswriter someday. Thanks to everyone for their supportive comments

  57. 86w183 January 31st, 2014 at 2:04 pm

    Chipper @ 3B, Murray @ 1B…. don’t understand the comparison.

    Berkman played more as an OF than 1B, so he’s considered as an OF

  58. blake January 31st, 2014 at 2:10 pm

    “Chipper @ 3B, Murray @ 1B…. don’t understand the comparison.”

    talking about hitting only

  59. blake January 31st, 2014 at 2:13 pm

    “Thanks Chad for giving Carter this amazing opportunity. He was so excited to write his entry and refused to let me help him. We are so proud of him. Maybe he will be a GM or sportswriter someday. Thanks to everyone for their supportive comments”

    just don’t ever let him use the phrase: “big hairy monster”

  60. 86w183 January 31st, 2014 at 2:14 pm

    heading off to other more profitable ventures

    Have a Day!

  61. Ys Guy January 31st, 2014 at 2:14 pm

    ” Howler January 31st, 2014 at 1:00 pm

    If Rose ever became a Yankee…I would’ve found another team.”
    ========================================
    The Mick was thinking the same thing.

  62. blake January 31st, 2014 at 2:17 pm

    saw yesterday where a Seinfeld reunion short film is almost ready for release…..awesome.

  63. kd January 31st, 2014 at 2:20 pm

    any idea where nelson cruz signs? could see a 1 year deal to boston, like beltre

  64. blake January 31st, 2014 at 2:21 pm

    Cruz seems destined to be a Mariner

  65. Kelvin January 31st, 2014 at 2:28 pm

    If they sign Cruz, Ackley is probably expendable. That would a nice trade target for the Yanks.

  66. Tar January 31st, 2014 at 2:33 pm

    Awesome post Carter!! I didn’t realize that Kelley had that many K’s.

    I was wondering what position you play? You have some great insights into the pitching staff, I’m thinking you are a catcher. Anyway thanks for the great post.

  67. Wave Your Hat January 31st, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    bigdan-

    I don’t think the jury will be out on the Yank offense if Ryan has to play full time at short. A bottom three of Johnson, Roberts and Ryan will significantly reduce the scoring potential. And that’s assuming Teixeira is productive and Jeter can at least DH.

  68. Ys Guy January 31st, 2014 at 2:43 pm

    it’s pretty unlikely that jeter can push beltran/soriano out of the dh spot on any regular basis. especially in the situation where he can’t play SS.

  69. YankeeNiner January 31st, 2014 at 2:44 pm

    Two things:
    (1) Great job Carter. Good luck in Little League in 2014.

    (2) To 86w183: How do you leave Roy White off your bench? He is so underrated that even the Yankees sometimes forget just how consistent he was. 1881 games ALL with the Yankees. last outfielder to field a perfect 1.000. A table setter who hit well behind Mickey Rivers on back to back World Series winning teams. 300 doubles, 170 HRs, 233 stolen bases, 964 runs and a .271 career BA. Did the #6 uniform proud before Joe Torre grabbed it. I will be smiling for Roy when it is retired.

  70. Ys Guy January 31st, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    the first baseball player who’s hand i shook (I dont do autographs) was roy white.

  71. blake January 31st, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    Jeff Passan ?@JeffPassan 10m
    The NFL is amazing. Racist team nickname. Awful post-career healthcare. Biggest week of year, and Goodell is all … http://giphy.com/gifs/VPxeRSse82psA

  72. Mottsx January 31st, 2014 at 2:47 pm

    LOL at Ted Nelson and Mike Axisa…. if that’s even him.

    Cliff Lee has averaged 4 bWAR/5 fWAR the past two seasons. So, at a 5 win upgrade, you expect the Yankees’ 5th starter to be worth -0.5 bWAR/0 fWAR? He’s likely a 2-3 win upgrade.
    by Ted Nelson 2:43 PM

    Lee’s at 5.9 bWAR last two years (6.8 last three). No idea where you got 4 from. I expect the fifth starters to be 0-1 WAR. Non-CC, Kuroda, Pettitte, Nova starters were ~0.5 WAR last year.
    by Mike Axisa 2:45 PM

  73. Ys Guy January 31st, 2014 at 2:50 pm

    seems like ted’s left us at least lately. once people stopped reacting to his posts it seems like he got bored and went away, just as expected.

  74. Tar January 31st, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    “The problem with fixing the infield is numbers.”

    I agree Chip.

    If they signed Drew and he took over SS, what use is Ryan?

    Don’t think Cashman would admit a 5 mil mistake that quick. it was a mistake to sign Ryan so soon in the offseason, all glove no bat infielders are not a scarce commodity.

  75. Mottsx January 31st, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    The #Bluejays sold out tickets for their April 4 home opener against the Yankees in 48 minutes today. Cool.

    Sounds like Jays fans are spending money on tickets early again… sad for Toronto. They have good fans. Crappy product. They just need a couple of solid pitchers.

  76. blake January 31st, 2014 at 2:55 pm

    I don’t know. He’s such a good fit given their needs and the available options.by Mike Axisa 2:00 PM

    Why aren’t the Yanks going after Drew? They’ve blown the 189 mill. He’s the best infielder available (?) and now he might come cheap.by Dave Miller 2:00 PM

    this wasn’t me I promise…..just another smart fan :)

  77. blake January 31st, 2014 at 2:58 pm

    “If they signed Drew and he took over SS, what use is Ryan?

    Don’t think Cashman would admit a 5 mil mistake that quick. it was a mistake to sign Ryan so soon in the offseason, all glove no bat infielders are not a scarce commodity.”

    Again…..Ryan is a bench player…..he would still be a bench player if they signed Drew. Drew starts at 3B or SS and Ryan backs up…..the two aren’t related. One is a starter…..one is a bench guy. If they sign Drew it won’t in any way be admitting it was a mistake to sign Ryan…..because they won’t be playing the same roles on the team.

  78. Wave Your Hat January 31st, 2014 at 2:59 pm

    blake-

    As I told MTU yesterday, I believe they aren’t chasing Drew, or any real shortstop, because signing one would put the Yanks in a box with Jeter, and they aren’t willing to have that issue front and center yet.

  79. Ys Guy January 31st, 2014 at 3:00 pm

    they signed ryan specifically because he doesnt pose a threat to jeter.

  80. Tar January 31st, 2014 at 3:01 pm

    Blake
    Ryan is totally redundant if they sign Drew. Jeter would be the back up SS. Why would they waste a roster spot like that?

  81. bigdan22 January 31st, 2014 at 3:04 pm

    blake January 31st, 2014 at 2:55 pm
    I don’t know. He’s such a good fit given their needs and the available options.by Mike Axisa 2:00 PM

    Why aren’t the Yanks going after Drew? They’ve blown the 189 mill. He’s the best infielder available (?) and now he might come cheap.by Dave Miller 2:00 PM

    this wasn’t me I promise…..just another smart fan :)

    ——-

    No, just another observer with no skin in the game. If this keeps up I’m going to have to run a loop of my prior post describing this disconnection in detail.

  82. Ys Guy January 31st, 2014 at 3:06 pm

    ——–>

  83. bigdan22 January 31st, 2014 at 3:09 pm

    Wave Your Hat January 31st, 2014 at 2:38 pm
    bigdan-

    I don’t think the jury will be out on the Yank offense if Ryan has to play full time at short. A bottom three of Johnson, Roberts and Ryan will significantly reduce the scoring potential. And that’s assuming Teixeira is productive and Jeter can at least DH.

    —–

    Not only is the jury out but it’s been sequestered and sent home on vacation!

    It’s very difficult right now to predict how good the Yanks offense will be given all the variables. I think it could be very good. 800++ runs good and easily compensate for Ryan at short. Or, because of age and injury concerns, be quite mediocre. I’m fairly sure it will be better than last year no matter happens.

    But I really believe the Yanks will live and die with their starting pitching. I don’t think they are likely to have an offense strong enough to make up for all their obvious holes. But great starting pitching can make up for a lot of sins. It did last year for about two months.

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