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Jeff Baker off the table; signs with Florida

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 04, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Scratch off another long-shot to help the Yankees at third base.

Right-handed platoon player Jeff Baker has signed a two-year deal with the Mariners. Joel Sherman reports that Baker is getting $3.7 million.

Because of his power bat against left-handed pitching, and because he has experience at various positions — including second and third — Baker seemed like a potential fit for the Yankees, but his splits are extreme and the Yankees were not sold on his defense at third base. He’s ideally more of a corner outfielder or first baseman, which makes you wonder exactly how many corner outfielders and first basemen the Mariners are planning to use next season. They’re also reportedly in discussions with Nelson Cruz, and they already have Justin Smoak, Jesus Montero, Corey Hart and Logan Morrison.

UPDATE: Oops. Editing through tomorrow’s Pinch Hitter post and saw the news of the Baker signing. Thought I should throw something on the blog real quick, when what I should have done is read the difference between the word Marlins and Mariners.

Anyway, Baker signed with Florida, not Seattle. I am, as always, an idiot.

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102 Responses to “Jeff Baker off the table; signs with Florida”

  1. pat February 4th, 2014 at 2:34 pm

    Jeff Baker has signed a two-year deal with the Mariners.

    Mariners or Marlins?

  2. bigdan22 February 4th, 2014 at 2:36 pm

    Re-post:

    The Yanks this coming season will live and die on their starting pitching. Back in October I said Tanaka was more important than Cano. And I was right then and I’ll be even more right in a few months.

    The infield defense is poor, but it won’t make or break this team. Their lineup is old and infirm, but they will handily out score what they did last year. For this team to make the playoffs, their starting pitching must not fade like it did last year. Tanaka gives them a real shot. CC is the other key. Then one or two guys need to rise from the backend.

    Pitching heals almost all wounds.

  3. Chip February 4th, 2014 at 2:37 pm

    Hardballtalk.com and Sherman had him signing with the Marlins.

  4. bbb51 February 4th, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    Teixeira + Soriano + Beltran + McCann + Johnson + Ellsbury is enough power, it doesn’t have to come from the OF.

  5. MTU February 4th, 2014 at 2:39 pm

    MLBTR has Baker to the Marlins.

  6. MTU February 4th, 2014 at 2:41 pm

    Baker cost about 2 mil per.

    Yankees not sold on his D at 3b ?

    Guess that’s why they passed.

    It could not have been money.

  7. AAA February 4th, 2014 at 2:43 pm

    WFAN Sports Radio ?@WFAN660 6m

    According to Mike Francesa, the #Mets have made an offer to Stephen Drew. Story coming on http://WFAN.com . #NYM

  8. MTU February 4th, 2014 at 2:44 pm

    Johnson/Nunez, Jeter/Ryan, Roberts/Johnson, Tex/?

    Not exactly confidence inspiring.

    Seems like an accident waiting to happen.

    Better hope they just get lucky.

    Oh. Wait a minute. Isn’t that what Youkilis/Hafner were supposed to be ?

  9. UpState February 4th, 2014 at 2:51 pm

    ChrisCotillo
    JonHeyman

    … have Jeff Baker to Marlins

    ….. $3.7MM guaranteed money

    (2 years ?)

  10. Tackelberry February 4th, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    Cardinals had a less than inspiring infield in 2012 and managed to win the World Series. Stop being so overly dramatic

  11. Tackelberry February 4th, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    UpState February 4th, 2014 at 2:51 pm
    ChrisCotillo
    JonHeyman

    … have Jeff Baker to Marlins

    ….. $3.7MM guaranteed money

    (2 years ?)

    ___________________________________

    Oh! Thank God! I was worried there for a minute that he may come back to haunt us this year

  12. MTU February 4th, 2014 at 2:54 pm

    Baker:

    1.6 yr. one
    2.7 yr. two

    Plus incentives of up to 500K each yr.

    Max. outlay = 5.3 Mil for 2 years.

    MLBTR

  13. Tackelberry February 4th, 2014 at 2:55 pm

    WFAN Sports Radio ?@WFAN660 6m

    According to Mike Francesa, the #Mets have made an offer to Stephen Drew. Story coming on http://WFAN.com . #NYM

    _________________________________

    Somewhere, Blake just screamed.

  14. UpState February 4th, 2014 at 2:57 pm

    Tackelberry February 4th, 2014 at 2:52 pm
    Cardinals had a less than inspiring infield in 2012 and managed to win the World Series. Stop being so overly dramatic

    ========================

    Unfortunately – the name of Nunez possibly ‘sticking’ leads many to dramatic fear and nausea.

    Eduardo “Nausea” Nunez

  15. MTU February 4th, 2014 at 2:58 pm

    tackelberry-

    It is not overly dramatic.

    There is a lot of injury risk built into our IF.

    It’s going to take some real good fortune for it to stay healthy and productive.

    I don’t like basing my fortunes on luck.

    Freese, Decalso, Carpenter, etc. were pretty good, and healthy.

    And certainly way younger than what we have.

  16. blake February 4th, 2014 at 2:58 pm

    “Somewhere, Blake just screamed.”

    They haven’t signed him….I’m still hoping common sense prevails

  17. Tackelberry February 4th, 2014 at 3:01 pm

    MTU:

    Freese, DeCalso, Carpenter were NOT that good. They were adequate, and they won. Our Infield will be ok. Better than you think.

  18. MTU February 4th, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    tackle-

    Depends if it stays healthy.

    That’s all I’m talking about.

  19. UpState February 4th, 2014 at 3:03 pm

    Marlins or Mariners ???

  20. Patrick February 4th, 2014 at 3:05 pm

    Bowden just said the Yankees should go get Drew and move Jeter to 3B if they want to be the best they can be……yup

    I was listening too, for as bad of a GM that Bowden is he usually has smart ideas on the radio.

  21. MTU February 4th, 2014 at 3:05 pm

    If the IF is Johnson, Jeter, Roberts, Tex.

    And it stays that way most of the season. Yes.

    The odds of that ?

    Not too good.

    That means Nunez and Ryan.

    And who’s your Tex backup just in case ?

  22. Patrick February 4th, 2014 at 3:09 pm

    And who’s your Tex backup just in case ?

    I’m sure they can find someone like Overbay on the scrap heap again.

  23. AAA February 4th, 2014 at 3:10 pm

    Freese, DeCalso, Carpenter were NOT that good.

    ===================================

    Yankees have nobody in their current infield close to as good as Carpenter. He was outstanding last year. 4th in the NL MVP and was the 2nd best 2B in MLB behind Cano. Allen Craig hit .315 and drove in 100 from 1st base. Their left side of the infield wasn’t not terribly strong.

  24. MTU February 4th, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    Patrick-

    Not so sure they will get someone as good as Overbay was for us if they happen to need someone in a hurry.

    He was real good w the glove and did pretty well w the bat.

  25. AAA February 4th, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    I’m sure they can find someone like Overbay on the scrap heap again.

    =================================

    I’m not so sure there is. Seems like everyone, even the D-list guys have all been scooped up.

  26. MTU February 4th, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    AAA-

    Point I was making was about them being younger and generally healthy.

    Our main guys are older and more prone to injury.

    And our backup plan is fairly poor.

  27. Howler February 4th, 2014 at 3:14 pm

    People who can be backup 1B always get cut in ST.

  28. MTU February 4th, 2014 at 3:15 pm

    Howler-

    What happens if Tex goes down a month into the season ?

  29. MTU February 4th, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    What happens if Roberts gets injured a month into the season ?

    Johnson moves to 2nd.

    Who covers 3b ?

    Nunez ?

    Now that will be an adventure.

    Ryan ?

    Can’t hit.

  30. Patrick February 4th, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    I think Overbay’s time with the Yankees is greatly overrated. The narrative that sportswriters and announcers put out there is that he was a gem in the rough and that he played way above his head as a Yankee. The truth is … he hit .240/.295/.393 and was a below average defender at first. For reference, his career numbers are .267/.348/.434.

    There are plenty of guys available right now that could do the job he did at first base.

  31. AAA February 4th, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    MTU:

    I hear you. I was disputing someone else’s notion that Matt Carpenter was “NOT that good”.

  32. MTU February 4th, 2014 at 3:20 pm

    Gotcha AAA.

  33. blake February 4th, 2014 at 3:22 pm

    @Rotoworld_BB: Mets have no current offer out to SS Drew – Stephen Drew | BOS http://t.co/3DDVrATmA6

  34. AAA February 4th, 2014 at 3:22 pm

    People who can be backup 1B always get cut in ST.

    ===========================

    Not by the Yankees. ;)

    It could happen that way. Pena was the last of the undead 1B to go off the board. Who knows if he ends up with an MLB job. I’d have liked a guy like Kotchman or Overbay, who are actually pretty decent with glove and do hit occasionally. Hinske? Is he locked up with someone?

  35. Patrick February 4th, 2014 at 3:23 pm

    @Rotoworld_BB: Mets have no current offer out to SS Drew – Stephen Drew | BOS http://t.co/3DDVrATmA6

    At this point we have to assume that every team in baseball values their draft pick ahead of Drew. It makes no sense that he is getting so little action unless this is the case.

  36. AAA February 4th, 2014 at 3:23 pm

    There are plenty of guys available right now that could do the job he did at first base.

    ===========================================

    Name 3

  37. MTU February 4th, 2014 at 3:25 pm

    I am hoping for the best w our IF but I am certainly concerned about it staying healthy and productive w our 1st stringers in for the bulk of the season.

    You’d have to be. Optimist or not.

    And it would not surprise me one bit if it doesn’t stay that way and we find ourselves scrambling for decent replacements.

    Don’t want to see a repeat of a patchwork IF.

    Especially with the type of pitching staff we have which is so GB dependent.

  38. Tackelberry February 4th, 2014 at 3:26 pm

    Ryan ?

    Can’t hit.

    ________________________

    Are you more worried about the defense or the hitting with the infield. Ryan is an outstanding defender. With the lineup they are putting out there, its not so critical that Ryan hit as much. His defense would be much more important

  39. Chad Jennings February 4th, 2014 at 3:27 pm

    Sorry about that. Read Marlins as Mariners, then started typing too quickly. Maybe I’d forgotten the Marlins were still a thing. Is that a good excuse?

  40. UpState February 4th, 2014 at 3:29 pm

    Jeff Baker:

    This is his competition for AB’s at the 4 Marlin’s infield positions .
    WOW !
    Not much at all….and Logan Morrison was traded this winter.
    Losers of 100 games.
    (surprise, surprise)

    /// 1st Basemen

    Joe Mahoney (released/FA)
    Casey Kotchman
    Logan Morrison (gone to a trade)
    Greg Dobbs

    /// 2nd Basemen

    Derek Dietrich
    Donovan Solano

    /// Shortstops

    Adeiny Hechavarria
    Nick Green
    Chris Valaika

    /// 3rd Basemen

    Gil Velazquez
    Placido Polanco (released/FA)
    Ed Lucas
    ———————-

    They added this winter :

    Garrett Jones 1b
    Juan Diaz SS
    Rafael Furcal SS
    Casey McGehee 1b-2b-3b
    Valdespin 2b
    Ty Wigginton 1b-2b-3b

    …..guess it’s 50% at First with Garrett Jones.

    31 YO Casey Kotchman…. the Yankees are looking for your phone number.

  41. Tackelberry February 4th, 2014 at 3:29 pm

    All of you thinking that we’re doomed if Nunez plays are being a little too critical. Nunez’s defense improved quite a bit last year and he didn’t look bad at 3rd when he played there. Will he make errors? Sure. What? Jeter doesn’t make bad throws or errors sometimes? Sorry, but some of you are being a little too gloom and doom about all this.

  42. MTU February 4th, 2014 at 3:30 pm

    Tackle-

    Ryan is a zero w a bat.

    Losing Jeter to that would be a huge hole.

    About the size of the big meteor crater in AZ.

    And the rest of the IF doesn’t compensate adequately for something that significant IMO.

    Sorry. Not buying that argument.

  43. AAA February 4th, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    At this point we have to assume that every team in baseball values their draft pick ahead of Drew. It makes no sense that he is getting so little action unless this is the case.

    =======================================

    You’d think at the very least the Orioles would announce they have a deal with him and then back off due to a bad physical, but he can’t even get that.

    I did see something the other day (can’t recall where) that indicated teams had some concern over a hip issue he might have.

  44. Patrick February 4th, 2014 at 3:34 pm

    Name 3

    Mat Gamel, Ryan Langerhans, Kendrys Morales, Justin Turner and that’s not even mentioning probably the dozen minor league free agents that could put up the same crappy numbers that Overbay did last year.

  45. Tackelberry February 4th, 2014 at 3:34 pm

    MTU:

    Again, Ryan’s defense would be much more important. With the lineup they have (Ellsbury, Beltran, Tex, McCann) THey can do fine with Ryan in the lineup. Sorry, but I disagree with you on that one.

  46. AAA February 4th, 2014 at 3:35 pm

    31 YO Casey Kotchman…. the Yankees are looking for your phone number

    ===========================

    He’s still an FA? Thought maybe he’d been picked up. Yankees should give him a look.

  47. MTU February 4th, 2014 at 3:35 pm

    Draft picks and us shouldn’t matter.

    We’ve lost most of them already.

    Little left to lose.

  48. Tackelberry February 4th, 2014 at 3:36 pm

    Besides, ST hasn’t even started yet. Who’s to say they won’t make any moves duyring ST to improve the infield if they deem it necessary. The team that reports to ST isn’t necessarily the finished product that goes north to start the season.

  49. UpState February 4th, 2014 at 3:37 pm

    Tackelberry February 4th, 2014 at 3:29 pm
    All of you thinking that we’re doomed if Nunez plays are being a little too critical. Nunez’s defense improved quite a bit last year and he didn’t look bad at 3rd when he played there. Will he make errors? Sure. What? Jeter doesn’t make bad throws or errors sometimes? Sorry, but some of you are being a little too gloom and doom about all this.
    =========================

    I think there is only one infielder in the entire major league that is worse that Nunez.

    (some crapper with the Astros, I think)

    Sorry – he’s not kinda, maybe average…he really is the bottom of the ML barrel !!!

    The rest of his game is also suspect.

    Yes – he can hit a line drive once a month or so….so could Reid Brignac & Luis Cruz.

    (but they actually can ‘catch and throw’ the ball)

    The Yanks really, really need to find someone better than this guy….

  50. Tackelberry February 4th, 2014 at 3:37 pm

    MTU February 4th, 2014 at 3:35 pm
    Draft picks and us shouldn’t matter.

    We’ve lost most of them already.

    Little left to lose.

    ________________________\
    Not true. They lost their 1st rounder and 2 comp picks. Have every other one starting with their 2nd rounder (number 56 overall right now.)

  51. MTU February 4th, 2014 at 3:37 pm

    Alright tackle.

    We’ll just agree to disagree and hope that our Captain stays healthy so we don’t even have to see Ryan much.

    :)

  52. RayVT February 4th, 2014 at 3:38 pm

    AAA February 4th, 2014 at 3:23 pm
    There are plenty of guys available right now that could do the job he did at first base.

    ===========================================

    Name 3
    ===========================================
    PICK 3:
    1.) Placido Polanco 3B/1B/inf/of 38 FA
    2.) Justin Turner 3B/1B 29 FA
    3.) Ryan Langerhans 1B 33 FA
    4.) Mat Gamel 1B 28 FA
    5.) Travis Hafner DH/1B 36 FA
    6.) Kendrys Morales DH/1B 30 FA
    7.) Miguel Tejada 2B/inf 39 FA

  53. Tackelberry February 4th, 2014 at 3:39 pm

    MTU:

    Yes we will, at least til ST gets underway. I won’t lose any sleep over it

  54. MTU February 4th, 2014 at 3:40 pm

    Tackel-

    I don’t think they are all that concerned about the draft or they would not have made so many trades that cost picks.

    I just don’t think they are all that worried about it even if maybe they should have been.

    It is supposed to be an above avg. draft class.

    ;)

  55. UpState February 4th, 2014 at 3:41 pm

    Casey Kotchman :

    August 26, 2013…….Released by the Miami Marlins.

    Do not see him as being signed by anyone.

    (Injury ?)

  56. MTU February 4th, 2014 at 3:41 pm

    Tackel-

    I sleep great too for an old Man.

    I just like to have my bases covered (no pun intended) so I don’t get caught w my pants down.

    ;)

  57. AAA February 4th, 2014 at 3:42 pm

    Mat Gamel, Ryan Langerhans, Kendrys Morales, Justin Turner and that’s not even mentioning probably the dozen minor league free agents that could put up the same crappy numbers that Overbay did last year

    ================================

    Wasn’t really counting Morales since I know the Yankees aren’t going there.

    The other are pure trash. Not that Overbay was considerably better, but I’d still prefer him.

  58. MTU February 4th, 2014 at 3:43 pm

    Sorry. Got to run.

    I’ll try to check back later.

    Have a good rest of the Afternoon.

    :)

  59. AAA February 4th, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    August 26, 2013…….Released by the Miami Marlins.

    Do not see him as being signed by anyone

    ===========================

    Released by the Miami Marlins = NOT a resume builder.

    Still, he’d be the type of player I’d look for as a backup 1B.

  60. Patrick February 4th, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    The other are pure trash. Not that Overbay was considerably better, but I’d still prefer him.

    Go look at their actual numbers and compare them to what Overbay did last year. If they are trash, Overbay is trash. That’s my point, he was a replacement level player which by definition means that players at his level are readily available.

  61. RayVT February 4th, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    3-More from Minors

    Ben Broussard 1B 37 Declared Royals AAA
    Ranked Cincinnati Reds #13 prospect after the 2000 season
    Ranked Cincinnati Reds #6 prospect after the 2001 season
    Ranked Cleveland Indians #23 prospect after the 2002 season
    Games started by level
    AAA 1B 45
    AAA DH 15
    AAA LF 9

    Sean Burroughs 1B 33 Declared Dodgers AAA
    Matt LaPorta 1B 29 Declared Indians AAA

  62. Hankflorida February 4th, 2014 at 3:46 pm

    Are you more worried about the defense or the hitting with the infield. Ryan is an outstanding defender. With the lineup they are putting out there, its not so critical that Ryan hit as much. His defense would be much more important

    Tackle, MTU is right as you cannot lose Jeter with this lineup especially with two table setters playing together in the outfield who can steal bases as they need bats to drive them in. Ryan could have easily fit in with the 2012 team that had seven guys to blast the three run homer. This team has to keep the line moving especially when their pitching needs offensive.

  63. UpState February 4th, 2014 at 3:53 pm

    AAA February 4th, 2014 at 3:44 pm
    August 26, 2013…….Released by the Miami Marlins.

    Do not see him as being signed by anyone

    ===========================

    Released by the Miami Marlins = NOT a resume builder.

    Still, he’d be the type of player I’d look for as a backup 1B.
    —————————————————————————————

    Maybe a 2013 injury ???

    He’s 31 – hits lefthanded

    …..if he has an ‘average career year’ and gets 400 AB’s :

    – he’ll give you 12-67 – .260 (.329)

    (200 AB’s ??? — say 6-33….but still a .260)

    Maybe a few more dingers with the YS porch ???

    Alot worse out there.

  64. AAA February 4th, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    Go look at their actual numbers and compare them to what Overbay did last year. If they are trash, Overbay is trash. That’s my point, he was a replacement level player which by definition means that players at his level are readily available.

    =========================================

    Yeah, I guess so. Never had to give back up 1B much thought before because Teixeira had been quite reliable pre-injury and they had Swisher around til last year.

  65. mick February 4th, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    So…we were outbid by the Marlins for Baker?
    Is that what it came down to…
    We better be in on Drew.
    But we will get outbid.
    189 might be dead, but the mentality seems very much alive.

  66. mick February 4th, 2014 at 3:56 pm

    Using poor defense as an excuse again?

  67. UpState February 4th, 2014 at 3:56 pm

    Trade idea:

    Nunez to Seattle….even-up….for their 6th-string catcher !!!

    …..welcome home – Jesus Montero !

  68. mick February 4th, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    Did Kay just say something about wringing some peoples necks?
    He once said he had a black heart, can’t help believing it.

  69. UpState February 4th, 2014 at 4:02 pm

    Lyle Overbay:

    FIRST HALF (before he got a little tuckered out) at 36 YO :

    290 AB’s….11-42 .252 (.308 obp)

    ….for someone who wasn’t supposed to play – that was pretty good !

    (if he was 26 – maybe he could’ve kept on that pace for the whole year)

  70. mick February 4th, 2014 at 4:04 pm

    So they didn’t want Baker b/c of lack of defense yet they are a step or 2 away from implosion with what they currently have.

    Gotta be about the money..

    Prove me wrong and sign Drew to play 3B/SS. That too would cost money unless they get him on a 1 year.

  71. blake February 4th, 2014 at 4:29 pm

    Bowden said if the braves offered Betancourt, Wood, and Sims then they could get Price…..I don’t know if that’s true or not but if it is how are they not doig that?

  72. Howler February 4th, 2014 at 4:48 pm

    okay…had to run out.
    I still going to run Beltran out there as a back-up 1B…and if you shake a tree a back-up 1B can be found anytime during the year.

  73. austinmac February 4th, 2014 at 6:28 pm

    It is absolutely true there are first basemen out there. The issue is quality. The names suggested would create a first base situation far below average. Moving around the infield, we can hope for average. We may fall far below.

  74. austinmac February 4th, 2014 at 6:29 pm

    Mick,

    It seems clearly a money thing. Cashman said no more expensive pieces. Baker may be over the too expensive bar.

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