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State of the organization: Left field

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 08, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Brett Gardner

Our position-by-position moves into the outfield with a look at left field. The Yankees traded for a big-name left fielder each of the past two seasons, and both are still on the roster, but offseason maneuvering means the Yankees are instead turning back to their 2011 left fielder to fill the spot with speed and defense instead of raw power.

GardnerTop of the depth chart: Brett Gardner
Backup options: Alfonso Soriano, Ichiro Suzuki, Zoilo Almonte, Russ Canzler
Also coming to camp: Ramon Flores, Adonis Garcia, Slade Heathcott, Jose Pirela, Antoan Richardson
Deeper in the system: Ronnier Mustelier, Ben Gamel, Nathan Mikolas

Brett Gardner hasn’t been a regular left fielder since 2011. He would have been in 2012, but he was hurt. That’s the year the Yankees traded for Ichiro Suzuki and asked him to play left. In 2013, Gardner was in center field, opening left field for the Yankees to trade for Alfonso Soriano. This year, with Jacoby Ellsbury added to the mix, Gardner is moving back to left field. There’s little doubt about his defense at the position — probably should have won one Gold Glove there already in his career — but the question is whether Gardner’s brand of speed-oriented offense is enough for a position that’s typically known for home runs. And, frankly, what kind of offense are the Yankees really going to get out of Gardner?

Zoilo AlmonteLingering question: Is Gardner definitely sticking around?
Right now, there seems to be absolutely no indication that the Yankees are on the verge of trading Gardner. Brian Cashman has said all winter that, while he received plenty of calls, he has not actively shopped Gardner in hopes of getting rid of him. The Yankees like Gardner’s speed, they like his defense, and they like his patience at the plate. He gets in bad counts sometimes, and he doesn’t run as much as some would like, but he’s been a good player. That MLB Network show that ranks players “right now” had Gardner among the 10 best left fielders in baseball. For now, it seems that he’s basically locked into the job, but he remains a valuable trade chip if the Yankees decide they have to go after an infielder or a pitcher.

Worth watching this spring: What’s Zoilo Almonte doing?
Assuming no one gets traded, the Yankees seem to have five outfielders in place. Gardner, Ellsbury, Soriano — who could certainly play at least a little bit of left field — and Carlos Beltran will be the go-to outfielders (with someone getting regular turns at DH) while Ichiro seems set as the fifth outfielder/pinch runner/defensive replacement in right. But is that a sure thing? Of all the other outfielders coming to camp, Almonte seems most prepared to step into a big league bench role. He has some power, he can play both corners — and center field in a pinch — plus he showed some stretches of productivity last season. Is Almonte going to get a look as a big league candidate, or is he inevitably heading back to Triple-A to wait for a potential call-up if one of the more experienced players gets hurt?

Best-case scenario: Have to consider bringing him back
The best the Yankees can hope for is the kind of year that forces them to make a tough decision about whether to bring Gardner back on a multi-year deal. This was Gardner’s last year of eligibility, meaning he’s a free agent at the end of this season. Vernon Wells has been released, and both Ichiro and Soriano are also heading to free agency, which means the Yankees future outfield commitments are Ellsbury and an aging Beltran. They’re going to need at least one other outfielder in 2015 and beyond. Best they can hope for this year is that Gardner plays so well — maybe the 7.4 WAR and .383 on-base percentage he posted in 2010 — that he establishes himself as one of the very best free agent outfielders heading into this coming offseason. Obviously he’s not a typical corner outfielder, and he might find more money from a team that has a spot for a center fielder and leadoff hitter, but if Gardner’s the best available, and he’s coming off a terrific year, wouldn’t the Yankees have to at least consider signing him to a new deal?

Worst-case scenario: Not nearly enough
Gardner had a nice year in 2013, but even then he hit just .238 in the month of August, and .247 in July. He gets streaky at the plate. And he might not be able to repeat last year’s increased power numbers. And his patient approach sometimes puts him in bad counts. And he’s had some injury problems. Point is, Gardner hasn’t removed all doubt about his ability to be standout everyday player. We know he can defend, and we know he can run, but he’s constantly having to prove everything else. It’s at least possible that this year will do the opposite, raising more questions than it answers. If Gardner strikes out too much and doesn’t get on base enough, he’ll be no better than a typical No. 8 or 9 hitter. And it’s not like Ichiro or Almonte is a can’t-miss option to replace him in the lineup.

Keep an eye on this year: Where’s Slade Heathcott playing?
In two ways, this question seems to matter: At what level is Heathcott playing, and are the Yankees showing any signs of preparing him to play in an outfield that already has center field covered by Ellsbury? Surely the Yankees are hoping that Heathcott at least spends half of this season in Triple-A, and if he plays well at that level — finally healthy for a full year, finally producing with speed and a little bit of power — would the Yankees consider giving him regular turns in left field in preparation for playing a big league role next season? Basically any outfielder in the Yankees system could end up being a left fielder in the future. For a guy in Heathcott’s situation — significant talent, pretty close to the big leagues, blocked at his primary position — beginning to get some time in left might actually be a good sign that  the Yankees think he’s nearly ready to help out in New York.

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111 Responses to “State of the organization: Left field”

  1. Ys Guy February 8th, 2014 at 3:49 pm

    “frankly, what kind of offense are the Yankees really going to get out of Gardner?”
    ===================================
    well, he was top 10 in OPS among qualifying AL OF’ers last year, so I’d expect some pretty good offense from him again.

  2. Tar February 8th, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    “well, he was top 10 in OPS among qualifying AL OF’ers last year, so I’d expect some pretty good offense from him again.”

    That equals average…middle of the pack.

    I am expecting better than that this year. I expect his power numbers to keep improving, and for him to maintain his high OBP

  3. Ys Guy February 8th, 2014 at 4:00 pm

    10th in the league is nothting to sneeze at.

    he was 12th among all AL OF’ers who had more than 250 ab’s. Thats way above ‘middle of the pack’

  4. Tar February 8th, 2014 at 4:01 pm

    25th in the league, and that is sneezable.

  5. braeburn February 8th, 2014 at 4:02 pm

    “Jacques Lowe was one of my closest friends.”

    …do you know his daughter victoria?

    i was friends with her long ago on cape cod. she was an amazing person in her own right.

  6. Tar February 8th, 2014 at 4:02 pm

    10th in the AL, 25th in MLB very middle of the pack.

    I expect better this year

  7. Ys Guy February 8th, 2014 at 4:03 pm

    that’s 12th out of the 54 AL OF who had 250+ at bats.

  8. Jerkface February 8th, 2014 at 4:03 pm

    Average offense is ok from Gardner because he will steal bases and play exceptional defense and see a lot of pitches. He will also have an above average on base percentage which I weigh more highly than slugging anyways.

    Its interesting if you look at the top 15 AL Ofers by wRC+ it goes 9. Ellsbury, 10. Jennings TB, 11. Gardner, 12. Jackson DET

  9. Jerkface February 8th, 2014 at 4:04 pm

    25th in the Majors isn’t really average when you consider there are 90 outfield spots being contended for.

  10. Jerkface February 8th, 2014 at 4:06 pm

    Gardner was 8% better than league average last year and 12% better than centerfield average as a hitter.

  11. Tar February 8th, 2014 at 4:08 pm

    25th in the Majors isn’t really average when you consider there are 90 outfield spots being contended for.”

    “qualified”…..there were 40 players listed. I think min 400 AB’s

  12. Pat M. February 8th, 2014 at 4:08 pm

    Brett Gardner went from being one of the top 5 outfielders in baseball last winter ( according to a few here ) to being a top 10 leftfielder ( generous evaluation ) by the MLB Network stat guru’s…..Nice player but really is a 4th outfielder on a good team

  13. Jerkface February 8th, 2014 at 4:09 pm

    The real important thing for Ellsbury and Gardner next year are to both keep their OBP around the .350 mark and put pressure on the opposing pitcher/catcher battery. I’d prefer any lineup where Gardner hits after ellsbury, because Ellsbury is not really that big a walker/patient hitter. Gardner is very patient. Gardner will give Ellsbury a lot of chances to steal a base, and I think its more likely that Ellsbury would steal 3rd if he is on 2nd than Gardner which opens up 2nd for Gardner to steal in a double steal.

  14. Pat M. February 8th, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    You’re high Jerkface , Gardner is not regarded by baseball industry people quite the way you try to sell him….

  15. Tar February 8th, 2014 at 4:11 pm

    JF

    I agree…GGBG after Ellsbury especially vs RH pitching. Go right after the opposing SP and put pressure on from the first pitch.

  16. Jerkface February 8th, 2014 at 4:13 pm

    So baseball industry people directly refute the factual statistics that Gardner has put up? They refute history?

  17. Pat M. February 8th, 2014 at 4:15 pm

    No Face I think they just refute You !!!!

  18. Jerkface February 8th, 2014 at 4:18 pm

    What in this thread do baseball industry people disagree with? Again, I think a lot of people on this blog seem to have no idea what Gardner actually does on the baseball field.

    .298 .355 .426 .781
    .273 .344 .416 .759

    Explain these 2 batting lines please thanks.

  19. Hankflorida February 8th, 2014 at 4:18 pm

    I don’t see how that would rid him of a stench of corruption. The reason I don’t care about PEDs is because its really easy to just build a narrative about PEDs for probably any player. For example follow this: Ellsbury is hurt in 2010 so he turns to PEDs, keeps on them for 2011 and has an amazing year. He goes off in 2013 and has just an ok year with the bat. Now he gets his big contract and he fears he won’t be able to live up to it so he goes on the juice. Boom rationalization for any big year he has.

    Jerkface, you make a positive case for a player getting hurt then turning to PEDs, but if Cashman had any inclination that this was the case with Ellsbury after A-Rod, I would think that he would not go near Ellsbury. I would think that there would be enough information in the pipe line to clear Ellsbury of taking any substance to enhance his ability, and Cashman does think that Ellsbury will be one of his five power guys with Johnson, Jeter, Roberts and Gardener as his table setters.

  20. Jerkface February 8th, 2014 at 4:24 pm

    I don’t see why the Yankees scouts or baseball people would bet on Ellsbury being one of their power guys. Theres only 1 season in his history that would suggest it and his hitting style just doesn’t work for power. Line drives, bunts, ground ball singles are his game.

    They would be making a big mistake if they signed him to this deal with the expectation of a 2011 repeat.

  21. Revenge of Stoneburner February 8th, 2014 at 4:26 pm

    Ellsbury will be one of his five power guys with Johnson, Jeter, Roberts and Gardener as his table setters.

    Johnson is not in the TS category – he will hit more HRs than Ellsbury next year – and if he comes close to approaching his 2010 season – wow nellie – - – -

  22. Tar February 8th, 2014 at 4:26 pm

    “298 .355 .426 .781
    .273 .344 .416 .759

    Explain these 2 batting lines please thanks.”

    The former is worth 153 million and the latter is a 4th outfielder? Thats all I got.

  23. Jerkface February 8th, 2014 at 4:28 pm

    Ellsbury and Gardner are likely to be among the top 4 on base percentages on the team next year. Beltran will probably lead the team and I could see McCann or Tex rounding out the top 4.

    So I’d really like them to be the table setters with Beltran/McCann/Tex/Soriano in the middle.

  24. Pat M. February 8th, 2014 at 4:31 pm

    Comparing Gardner to Ellsbury is like comparing a Kia to a BMW . They look similar, they have similar features and speed ratios. But the which one would you want to have in your driveway and be your everyday car ???? One’s a cheap knockoff and one is the real deal, thus you pay the fright for the real deal……Ellsbury steals 50 babes with or without Brett Gardner hitting behind him….Gardner is a banjo streak hitter at best. And save the numerical salespitch, I’ve watched him enough to know what and who Brett Gardner really is

  25. jmills February 8th, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ9qcjls0kA

    Bon Scott, what can I say, Ac/DC are the best band in, rock and roll. In the above video, he talks about an upcoming tour which involed, Rush, Kiss, and UFO. He’s putting the interviewer on that doesn’t pick up on, Gene Simmons.

  26. Jerkface February 8th, 2014 at 4:35 pm

    Ellsbury steals 50 babes with or without Brett Gardner hitting behind him

    Gardner steals close to 50 bags with or without Ellsbury on the team. Do you know that Gardner has stolen 47 and 49 bases in a season? Ellsbury is a better base stealer for sure, but Gardner is also one of the top in the league at stealing bases.

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    —————————————————————————-

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  28. Ys Guy February 8th, 2014 at 4:42 pm

    I’m down with the ellsbury/garnder top of the lineup, too. i think they’ll start the season with Jeter in the 2 hole and try to go left right left right as much as possible, but I think the Ellsbury/Gardner 1/2 lineup is going to win out in the long run.

  29. Pat M. February 8th, 2014 at 4:43 pm

    This might sound strange but Gardner steals bases at a high clip but he’s not good at it …..Doesn’t read pitchers well at all, gets crappy jumps, and never seems to steal a big base when the pressure is on. It’s not a natural instinct for him….I like Gardner and I fully understand what he brings to the table, but I’m not blinded to all his short comings. Simply stated, Jacoby Ellsbury is a far better baseball player and everyone here is going to see this on a daily basis. Even Blake will adopt him by Memorial Day

  30. jmills February 8th, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lHfmJszQIhs

    I know there are a lot of people that want to criticize, Bon Scott. The guy is pretty smart!

  31. Jerkface February 8th, 2014 at 4:52 pm

    I like Gardner and I fully understand what he brings to the table

    Your constant declarations that he is a 4th OFer suggest this isn’t true. He is a 4th OFer on an allstar team maybe but he is definitely a front line CFer on a good team. Hits above league average, one of the best defenders in the game, can steal bases. That isn’t a bench player.

  32. Ys Guy February 8th, 2014 at 4:53 pm

    i agree about Gardner’s stealing. Rarely a ‘big steal’ and even when he does it seems like it’s on the 6th pitch. He seems intimidated instead of intimidating.

  33. Shame Spencer February 8th, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    Gardner steals bases at a high clip and still isn’t good at it..

    Doesn’t that make him more impressive instead of less? :D

  34. Jerkface February 8th, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    i agree about Gardner’s stealing. Rarely a ‘big steal’ and even when he does it seems like it’s on the 6th pitch. He seems intimidated instead of intimidating.

    This is a perception thing where your brain lies to you. He has 199 SB attempts in his career.

    21.1% on the first pitch
    27.6% on the second pitch
    31.7% on the third pitch

    So 80% of his steals are within the first 3 pitches.

    Ellsbury’s rate is 81% within the first 3 pitches, but you’ll be pleased to note that it works in the opposite. 30% first pitch, 26% second, 22% third. Ellsbury is a more aggressive base stealer for sure.

  35. PhiltheThrill February 8th, 2014 at 5:06 pm

    Gardner is a great defender, but still needs to get more consistent with his patience, and to find ways to make his speed a weapon on O. I generally don’t like speed guys, but if he could learn how to bunt for hits to go along with his walks and burgeoning power, he’d be a much more valuable guy to keep around.

    Heathcott just needs health. It’s bizarre that the Yankee instructors haven’t unlocked more power from his tool chest.

  36. jmills February 8th, 2014 at 5:09 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/embed/n.....#038;rel=0

    For all of you that might think I’m a nerd for Rush, suck on the above. I don’t know exactly how Naomi Watts does it, … but, she does it!

  37. Hankflorida February 8th, 2014 at 5:09 pm

    Jerkface February 8th, 2014 at 4:28 pm
    Ellsbury and Gardner are likely to be among the top 4 on base percentages on the team next year. Beltran will probably lead the team and I could see McCann or Tex rounding out the top 4.

    So I’d really like them to be the table setters with Beltran/McCann/Tex/Soriano in the middle.

    “In my Yoot” before the DH, the Yankee championship team always had five run producers and three table setters. Recently, the Yankees had Jeter, Knoblauch, Chad Curtis or Tim Raines as your table setters while Bernie, O’Neil, Posada, Tino, Strawberry and Brosius were your run producers. If you want to stretch it a little, we can make Johnson a Brosius type player so this year we have five run producers and four TS. Will this team give us over 200 HR and 900 RBI’s? With two guys in the outfield with last years numbers, I doubt it!

  38. Jerkface February 8th, 2014 at 5:17 pm

    Will this team give us over 200 HR and 900 RBI’s? With two guys in the outfield with last years numbers, I doubt it!

    Yeaaa 200 HRs is a stretch for next years team. As is 900 runs. Unfortunately I think they may end up around the 150 HR mark again next year. Hopefully bringing in McCann, Beltran, and Ellsbury will allow for more runs in a different manner and they can get back above 800.

  39. pkyankfan69 February 8th, 2014 at 5:29 pm

    From MLBTR

    Scout.com’s Kiley McDaniel looks ahead to the July 2nd market for international prospects. He notes rumors that Dominican third baseman Gilbert Lara already has a $3.2MM deal in place with the Brewers, not generally a team known for splashy international signings. Dominican shortstop Dermis Garcia, meanwhile, reportedly has a $3MM deal in place with the Yankees, who figure to be big spenders in the international market this summer.

  40. pkyankfan69 February 8th, 2014 at 5:30 pm

    Anyone know anything about this Dermis Garcia fellow?

    Couldn’t find much of anything.

  41. pkyankfan69 February 8th, 2014 at 5:31 pm

    In a Youtube video that was filmed with a potato you can see him hit a triple.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spRqM6t0W5k

  42. pkyankfan69 February 8th, 2014 at 5:36 pm

    “Originally Posted by Kiley McDaniel
    The most impressive overall prospect at the MLB event and the clear top July 2nd prospect I’ve seen thus far is Dominican SS Dermis Garcia. I have some history with Garcia, scouting him at this time last year. His agent told me then that Garcia was one of his top guys for next year and I confirmed he had a potential seven figure guy on his hands. It’s worth noting that Garcia’s buscone/trainer Moreno Tejada is considered one of the best in the business, also training Robinson Cano and Miguel Sano, among others. The pedigree is good and that also means Garcia has been seen early and often by scouts.

    Last January, Garcia’s swing was upright, narrow and somewhat lazy while yesterday, he showed the best combination of hitting tools and balanced swing mechanics I’ve seen this week. Garcia is stronger now but also matured, growing into his 6’2/182 frame and leveraging those newfound abilities in a more efficient swing. Garcia launched a number of homers to his pull side yesterday, flashing plus raw power that was also the best I’ve seen this week.

    It’s not all positives, as Garcia didn’t get a hit in his two at-bats, striking out and flying out. His in-game approach didn’t look like anything to worry about as his flyout was against a well-placed changeup from one of the top July 2nd pitchers on the market. While his balance and hitting tools are both very good, I’m not nuts about how he loads his hands and how his hands’ first movement from the loaded position is sometimes down, though both should be fixable with pro instruction.

    Garcia has enough defensive ability that you can’t rule out him sticking at shortstop at this point. There have been examples, like Xander Bogaerts and Reid Brignac just among recent AL East examples, of bigger athletes that look ticketed for third base in A-Ball that eventually worked their way into becoming big league shortstops with work. If I had to guess, I’d say Garcia ends up at third base, but the bat easily profiles if that happens.

    Garcia’s arm strength and speed are both about average now, though many 16-year old prospects improve those tools from this young age with physical maturity. That improvement is much rarer to see at at older ages, like at age 18 (high school) or 21 (college) with domestic amateurs. Garcia recently turned 16 and his January 7th, 1998 birthdate makes him younger than many of the top prospects in his class. To readers of Malcolm Gladwell’s Outliers it won’t come as a surprise that the top July 2nd prospects tend to be born near the beginning of the window that, for this class, ranges from September 1, 1997 to August 31, 1998.

    … it wasn’t hard to figure out Garcia’s market. He is one of the players that is widely believed in the industry to have a deal in place and every source I talked to said Garcia has a verbal deal with the Yankees.

    …I’ll reemphasize as I’ve said before that these verbal deals are non-binding and still fall apart for various reasons but, anecdotally speaking, deals done this early in the process stick something like 90% of the time. Multiple sources have indicated the deal with Garcia is for $3.0 million.”

  43. Ys Guy February 8th, 2014 at 5:36 pm

    Interesting #’s on Gardner, thanks jf.

    Definitely a perception thing. maybe ellsbury can ‘coach him up’ a bit on being more aggressive.

    Rickey probably spoiled me back in the day. Watching pitchers react to him on base was so much fun, Rickey was so intimidating and played mind games with taking huge leads or no leads, faking a break while the pitcher was holding the ball, all kinds of things that intimidated the hell out of the pitchers.

  44. clarko February 8th, 2014 at 5:37 pm

    braeburn, yes, I did but the elder siblings had a rough time. Photographers must hit the road.

  45. jmills February 8th, 2014 at 5:37 pm

    Damaso Garcia

  46. Tar February 8th, 2014 at 5:38 pm

    Check out this video… garcia is about the 1:38 mark

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DbudA9k5rM

  47. Jerkface February 8th, 2014 at 5:39 pm

    No one is comparable to Rickey or even a lot of the old school base stealers. Ellsbury has had 1 70 SB season, but all his others are only around 50. Teams are much more cognizant of trying to steal efficiently, rather than excessively.

  48. Hankflorida February 8th, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    Yeaaa 200 HRs is a stretch for next years team. As is 900 runs. Unfortunately I think they may end up around the 150 HR mark again next year. Hopefully bringing in McCann, Beltran, and Ellsbury will allow for more runs in a different manner and they can get back above 800.

    Jerkface, I agree with your analysis if they can score in a different manner, but manufacturing runs in band box has never been the the way of the Yankees. You also have to remember McCaan and Beltran have to adjust to a new league and new pitchers. As I said before, my hope is that Ellsbury’s 2011 was due to his natural ability, and playing in the Stadium, he can give us Cano’s numbers with speed; that would be a steal in more ways then one.

  49. Pat M. February 8th, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    Time for Women’s Hockey……Jacoby Ellsbury is going to replace or come very close to replacing Cano’s numbers. His HR’s are going to be impressive, and he’s going to score 120 runs…..Be happy that he’s in The Bronx folks…..Tail lights

  50. Revenge of Stoneburner February 8th, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    Kiley McDaniel @kileymcd
    Underreported aspect to the Yankees July 2nd bonus bonanza: 2 DSL & 2 GCL teams make it easier to play all the new premium talent.

  51. Revenge of Stoneburner February 8th, 2014 at 6:15 pm

    Jacoby Ellsbury is going to replace or come very close to replacing Cano’s numbers.

    *****

    wow – that’s a

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQlQUMR53L0

  52. Revenge of Stoneburner February 8th, 2014 at 6:18 pm

    Yankeesource ?@YankeeSource Feb 7
    Good player. I see him more as a 2B because of some questions on defensive end. RT @ant_sin What do you think of Aledmys Diaz ?

  53. pete2 February 8th, 2014 at 6:19 pm

    I am somewhat hopeful Ellsbury can help Gardner steal more bases somehow. Had a bunch of triples with his speed but for some reason his speed does not translate into a bunch of IF hits (same with Ellsbury). Maybe because he pulls too many GB.

    Gardner has a better arm than Ellsbury, other than that I think they are pretty equal defensively. The defensive metrics don’t seem to handle Fenway very well at any of the OF positions and Ellsburys seasonal defensive numbers have bounced around a lot (from -10 UZR/150 to + 16 UZR/150).

    Gardner, was pretty consistent last year I thought. H-A, 1st-2nd half. He had one really bad month (August).

    The Yankees middle of the order is not as strong as some of the better hitting teams, especially if Tex does not rebound, and with Jeter being somewhat of a GIDP machine in the 2nd spot, I think Ellsbury will run more than he did with the Red Sox. Of course, he is at an age where the wear and tear of stealing many bases could take its toll.

  54. PhiltheThrill February 8th, 2014 at 6:19 pm

    I think Beltran might still have the best bat of all three new guys next year.

  55. pete2 February 8th, 2014 at 6:28 pm

    If Ellsbury’s shoulder fully recovers from that 2012 injury I think he can come close to his 2011 numbers. Can’t count on it though.

  56. jmills February 8th, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IGRcx3PsIlY

    Jethro Tull, the guy is, Tom Seaver amazing!

  57. UpState February 8th, 2014 at 6:44 pm

    Stolen Base successes :

    1. Chase Utley 88.356 %
    2. Alexi Casilla 87.912
    3. Mike Trout 87.755
    4. Jayson Werth 87.023
    5. Jarrod Dyson 86.598
    6. Carlos Beltran 86.517
    7. Nate McLouth 84.868
    8. Jason Bay 84.821
    9. Jacoby Ellsbury 83.972
    10. Alcides Escobar 82.906
    11. Chris Getz 82.857
    12. Shane Victorino82.836
    13. Jimmy Rollins 82.685
    14. Jason Kipnis 82.500
    15. Will Venable 81.818
    16. Carl Crawford 81.718
    17. Ichiro Suzuki 81.661
    18. Willy Taveras 81.590
    19. Rickie Weeks 81.457
    20. Drew Stubbs 81.410
    21. Carlos Gomez 81.340
    22. Franklin Gutierrez 81.053
    23. Cameron Maybin 80.909
    24. Brett Gardner 80.905
    25. Alex Rodriguez 80.905
    26. Carlos Gonzalez 80.451
    27. Ian Kinsler 80.374
    28. Desmond Jennings 80.220
    29. Coco Crisp 80.115
    30. Brian Roberts 80.115

    6 of the top active 30 Basetstealers are Yankees (or 5 without A-Rod)

    These are percentages of the times they are successful.

  58. Hankflorida February 8th, 2014 at 6:48 pm

    Pat M, it is my hope that Ellsbury can come come closer to his 2011 season then his 2013 one at Yankee stadium because never in my time watching the Yanks since the DiMaggio era, have I ever seen two Punch and Judy hitters play the outfield at the same time until last year when we had Gardener and Suzuki. DiMag, Keller and Heinrich gave us ninety home runs when we had a 2nd basemen who also gave us thirty, and I cannot believe that Cashman would give us an outfield that will hit just a few more homers then what Granderson gave us a few years ago. I was being facetious when I wanted Cano power numbers from him because with Ellsbury’s legs, Damon’s power numbers would suffice.

  59. luis February 8th, 2014 at 6:48 pm

    Good evening guys,

    I just read that Ellbury is going to approach Cano’s numbers… That’s probably the best joke I have read in here.

    Pat M,…. I can bet you 20 bucks right now that he doesn’t hit Cano’s numbers from last season…

  60. Tar February 8th, 2014 at 6:57 pm

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    Thanks for the link…. brings back a lot of memories. Ive been listening and watching for the last 20 minutes.

  61. Tar February 8th, 2014 at 6:59 pm

    In an interview i saw with Alex not that long ago he said

    ” I steal with this—pointing at his head, not with these, pointing at his legs”.

    He really should be coaching.

  62. jmills February 8th, 2014 at 7:00 pm

    Ok, I appreciate that list; where is, Tony Fernandez?!

  63. jmills February 8th, 2014 at 7:02 pm

    Tar,when it comes down to it, Rush is/ are more than a great band.

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  65. Pat M. February 8th, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    Ellsbury will reach 80 % of Cano’s numbers. He’ll score more runs and naturally will steal many more bags.. So when I say close I mean in the 80 % range. So think it over Luis and let me know…..And I was referring to Cano’s 2013 production, however if you want to speculate on 2014 I’ll go with that as well

  66. jmills February 8th, 2014 at 7:12 pm

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  67. pete2 February 8th, 2014 at 7:28 pm

    HankFlorida. Remember in DiMaggios time the pitcher hit and there was no draft so the Yankees could acquire the best OF prospects. Today we have the DH so a HR hitter like Soriano who would normally play LF can have his bat in the lineup without his defensive liabilities, and the competition for great bats in the OF is fierce.

    Gardner in left will save 20 runs defensively even if he only hits 10 HR. Lets also not understate the value of the many triples Gardner hits (10 last year). Between Soriano, Gardner, Beltran and Ellsbury there may be 80 HR’s there, and perhaps 15-20 triples.

    I think this OF/DH combination is actually better or at least as good as the Red Sox will be this year. That OF of the Red Sox won’t hit 50 HR, although they have a monster at DH who will put the OF/DH combination at about what the Yankees will get.

  68. jmills February 8th, 2014 at 7:30 pm

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  69. jmills February 8th, 2014 at 7:31 pm

    I think I spelled, ” important “, wrong – doesn’t matter.

  70. yankinvegas February 8th, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    And Pete2, that”monster”DH that Boston has, has cheated at least as much as Alex and no one cares.
    That’s because he plays for a team that owns The Boston Globe, NESN, ESPN, MLB Network that we know of.
    Only a team that owns that many networks can hinder deserved criticism of the dump they play in and the low life sleazebags that have worn the uniform for the entire history of the franchise.
    This recent run of success that Boston has had is the result of the work done by one man, newly elected HoF manager Joe Torre, whose work in the 2004 ALCS ranks with the worst coaching/managing jobs in the history of American sports.
    It will please me no end to see us bury that despicable team in the standings this coming season.

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