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Cashman trying to control Tanaka expectations

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 11, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Brian Cashman, Masahiro Tanaka

Just a few days ago, Brian Cashman created a minor controversy by saying on a radio interview that he expects Masahiro Tanaka to be a No. 3 starter. It seemed to an obvious attempt to keep expectations in check, and Cashman confirmed as much this afternoon when he explained his comments. Here’s Cashman:

“You’ve got 30 teams now with expansion, so there’s not many 25-year-olds running around that become free agents with his ability at this time, so I think the contract is reflective of the scarcity of that product. This is a high-end asset that’s available. He’s obviously got some risk because he’s transitioning from Japan, so we’ve spoken about those difficult adjustments that are necessary. He has a great deal of ability. We could be getting more than a three. Maybe it’s a two. Maybe it’s even a one at some point. But I think because of the adjustments that are necessary, and because of the contract, (expectations are different).”

“… Now it gets invoked, the sixth, seventh, eighth-highest, ninth-highest, whatever pitching contract ever. It kind of slants, I think, a little bit of the evaluation process, and I think it’s more reflective of the 25-year-old and the bidding side of it and his abilities. How he settles into the United States, I think in fairness, I’m going to say, especially here in the first year, it’s No. 3 starter. If we get more, all the better. That’s me trying to speak to it to some degree.”

“We think he’s got a great deal of ability, and we’re excited to have him join the franchise. We’ve got a lot of high-end talent that we brought in, including him. He’s going to play one part of many, and we look for them all to contribute.

“I’m also trying to honestly prepare the reality of, for our fan base, I know that because the contract is what it is, the expectations are going to be something, especially on the front end, that I want to alter to some degree, or try to. It’s better ot have an honest, realistic dialogue with your fans that you run through the media. Whether anybody wants to disagree, that’s fine. Or agree, that’s fine too. At least I own the words that I’m putting out there, and those words are what they were and what they are, which is that I think the adjustments are real and as excited as we are to have him, and as much as we need a player of his capabilities, I want to make sure that people know how difficult this game is over here, and that there should be expectations of growing pains. Just like when I signed players from other clubs and they come to New York from other markets here in the states, there’s growing pains. I just want to make sure to remind everybody, even though they might not want to hear it.”

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81 Responses to “Cashman trying to control Tanaka expectations”

  1. AAA February 11th, 2014 at 3:56 pm

    It’s better to have an honest, realistic dialogue with your fans that you run through the media.

    I’m going to assume this is brand spanking new corporate policy.

  2. J. Alfred Prufrock February 11th, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    it’s No. 3 starter. If we get more, all the better.

    “It”? :)

    The Yankees only have patience when they’ve paid a lot. Otherwise, they are less patient than a good portion of their fanbase, who complain about the club’s lack of patience.

    Cashman preached “patience” with Pineda, but then he and Girardi went all “show us the velo (in effin ST, no less)” and, well, the rest is history.

  3. UnKnown February 11th, 2014 at 4:59 pm

    Damn, Kay is flipping out right now about Cano. Blah blah blah. Dude needs a diet coke… :wink:

  4. Howler February 11th, 2014 at 5:11 pm

    Damn, Kay is flipping out right now about Cano. Blah blah blah. Dude needs a diet coke…with some LSD

  5. blake February 11th, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    Either unknown and Howler are the same person or they think remarkable alike

  6. yankeefeminista February 11th, 2014 at 5:23 pm

    “I’m also trying to honestly prepare the reality of, for our fan base, I know that because the contract is what it is, the expectations are going to be something, especially on the front end, that I want to alter to some degree, or try to. It’s better ot have an honest, realistic dialogue with your fans that you run through the media. ”

    Why start now? ;)

  7. Against All Odds February 11th, 2014 at 5:25 pm

    What did he say about Cano??

  8. blake February 11th, 2014 at 5:29 pm

    Kay is probably trashing Cano’s hustle and how the yanks made him a fair offer… reason I thought it was possible Cano was leaving was because Kay sorta started preparing the fan base for it during the season …..

  9. Bret The Hitman February 11th, 2014 at 5:29 pm

    Aspartame and LSD. Interesting combination.

  10. Howler February 11th, 2014 at 5:32 pm

    No…I just thought Unknown forgot an important ingredient that would make Kay a little more palatable.

  11. pete2 February 11th, 2014 at 5:33 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock February 11th, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    “Cashman preached “patience” with Pineda, but then he and Girardi went all “show us the velo (in effin ST, no less)” and, well, the rest is history.”

    I am pretty sure Pineda was damaged goods on arrival. He had a poor 2nd half in 2011 and skipped a couple of starts (5.71 ERA his last 11 starts, 10 HR in 63 IP). I suspect the Mariners knew something which is perhaps the only reason he was available. Whether he had symptoms in ST along with his velocity drop and hid them from the Yankees I don’t know.

    I do think the Yankees should have suspected an injury in ST and perhaps been more proactive in getting it diagnosed before the point of no return. If they suspected it and let him pitch anyways then that’s a big miss.

  12. Howler February 11th, 2014 at 5:36 pm

    Wow Paulie…did you ever feel a baseball…such texture…and would you believe it…Tanaka pitches in slow motion…no wonder hitters can get a read on it…it’s floating…and breaking into four separate balls…now they’re butterflies. I feel like Dancing…Kenny, would you like to Dance…

  13. Bret The Hitman February 11th, 2014 at 5:37 pm

    Well LSD is a hallucinogenic and aspartame stimulates glutamate which is a fight-or-flight excitatory neurotransmitter. Kay would be freaking out beyond anything we’ve ever witnessed.

  14. Bret The Hitman February 11th, 2014 at 5:37 pm

    He’d be extremely delusional and excitable…basically Michael Kay on steroids.

  15. Bret The Hitman February 11th, 2014 at 5:38 pm

    Aspartame can even cause insomnia, so he’d be seeing stuff for days, nights and days.


  16. Howler February 11th, 2014 at 5:41 pm

    depends how much he took.

  17. RhapsodyInBlue February 11th, 2014 at 5:42 pm

    Hope you’re staying warm down there Tom.

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  18. pete2 February 11th, 2014 at 5:47 pm

    Funny how Cashman does not feel the need to control expectations about the iF and bullpen.

    I wonder if Tanaka charters a plane to ST? I am afraid he will be disappointed with the domestic first class experience, which is 3rd worldish compared to international first class, let alone a Dreamliner charter for 5..

    Ellsbury must feel a bit of deja-vu. In his first ST with the Red Sox in 2007 before being called up later in the year he saw first hand the Daisuke zoo. The Red Sox were also coming off a poor 2006 due to injuries. That season ended well for the Red Sox even though Daisuke never lived up to the hype. Now he comes to his first Yankee camp with Tanaka. Only difference is him and Tanaka are a lot richer than him and Daisuke were in 2007, and he has more expectations on him as well.

  19. Hankflorida February 11th, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    Only Swisher was a thumper, but of course, with power tool guys at 3B, 1B, 2B and at C, it didn’t matter.
    Alfred, “There’s the rub” as we had power guys at 2nd and 3rd. The LA Dodgers were known for manufacturing runs, and they had a ratio of 6 of home runs to runs scored and they had Koufax and Drysdale. The 1998 Yankee team had a ratio of 4.5 and so did last years team, but the difference was a 50 home runs and 220 runs. Since this Yankee team is one built for manufacturing runs and clutch hitting, the same amount of home runs as last year will have to give us 200 runs more to go along with better pitching.

  20. Locke February 11th, 2014 at 5:58 pm

    Hank, considering what you just wrote what do you project the Yankees record to be for 2014?

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  22. Hankflorida February 11th, 2014 at 6:30 pm

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    Hank, considering what you just wrote what do you project the Yankees record to be for 2014?

    Their record for this year is a tough call based on the Yankee blueprint for offense is different then the past. Trisha calls this a hybrid team based on more efficiency then power. Last year when Girardi put Suzuki and Gardener together with Youk at third and Cervelli catching, he said the new era of manufacturing runs is at hand instead of waiting for the three run homer. It did not work out last year especially with the injuries. If the Yankees can emulate the LA Dodgers as they have Ellsbury and Gardener who can turn walks in doubles with clutch hitting, they do not need the 200 home runs to get 900 runs as 150 HR would suffice. The question is will this offense keep the line
    moving with the pitchers keeping their opponents from scoring big against the short porch in right field?

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    I agree Bret….drink real coke.

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