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Video: Jeter tries to keep focus on the season ahead

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At one point during today’s press conference, Derek Jeter stopped a question before it finished and looked to his manager, who was sitting in front of all of Jeter’s teammates to the right side of the podium.

“Hey Joe,” Jeter said. “Hold on. If these guys have to go work, please go, go work. Don’t feel as though you have to be forced to be here.”

As expected, Jeter handled today’s press conference with class and occasional humor, but he requested that we think of it more as a question-and-answer session, not any sort of official announcement (his opening statement is in the video above). Jeter didn’t like the idea of pulling his team out of practice. He didn’t seem comfortable answering questions about his place in the game and his spot in Yankees history. He just wanted to explain himself and move into the season that’s ahead.

He didn’t seem overly emotional, but would you expect anything else?

“You trying to get me to cry?” Jeter said, to a lot of laughter. “If that’s the thing, just spit it out. Yeah, I’m emotional, because it’s kind of difficult because we still have a season to play. It might be different if it was at the end of the year. Yeah, I have feelings. I’m not emotionally stunted. There’s feelings there, but I think I’ve just been pretty good at hiding my emotions throughout the years. I try to have the same demeanor each and every day. But it’s different. It’s not the end of the season yet. We’ve still got a long way to go.”

For the most part, Jeter spoke about all the things that he said in his statement. This was more about clarifying the reasons that he’d already laid out on Facebook.

1. Jeter said he’s 100 percent healthy and current health problems have nothing to do with the decision to walk away at the end of this year. He feels physically up to the job of playing shortstop everyday. Said he worked harder this offseason than ever before. This is not a forced retirement.

2. That said, it was last year’s injury that forced Jeter to step away from the game and truly think about how much longer he wanted to play. That’s when he began thinking about goals outside of baseball (including the idea of starting a family). He knew at the end of last season that he only wanted to play one more year, but he held off on the announcement at the advice of others. Jeter said he wrote every word of his retirement statement.

3. Jeter acknowledged that watching Jorge Posada, Mariano Rivera and Andy Pettitte walk away also helped push him toward this decision. It helped him think about what comes next. “You take someone away that’s been a pretty much constant all these years, you start thinking about it,” Jeter said. “But I was always pretty good about getting it out of my mind once we came to spring training.”

4. Why Facebook? Jeter said he thought it might bring some new attention to his Turn 2 Foundation (the Facebook page is basically a Turn 2 page). He also liked the idea of having his own words out there, unedited and not put through the filter of the media. He wanted to announce it before the season because he thought questions would be unavoidable otherwise, both from the media and from fans.

As for Jeter’s legacy, he didn’t seem to like talking about things that come next. He still has a season to play, and while he understood it was necessary to address the retirement decision, he constantly tried to steer the conversation toward 2014. So what would he like his legacy to be?

“You try to play hard, you try to have respect for your team, your teammates, your opponents, fans, reporters; everyone that you come in contact with in your job,” Jeter said. “You want to be remembered as someone that played hard. But for me, I’ve always said it time and time again, the most sacred thing, the thing that means the most to me is to be remembered as a Yankee. That’s what I’ve always wanted to be is to be a Yankee. And I have to thank the Steinbrenner family that’s here today, and our late owner, The Boss, because they gave me the opportunity to pretty much live my dream my entire life, and the great thing about being a Yankee is you’re always a Yankee, so in that sense it never ends. So being a Yankee is good enough for me.”

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121 Responses to “Video: Jeter tries to keep focus on the season ahead”

  1. Chip February 19th, 2014 at 1:50 pm

    Said it on the last thread – there will be an afternoon game in 2015 that will be must get tickets – all four (Jeter, Rivera, Andy, Jorge) together going into Monument Park.

  2. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 19th, 2014 at 2:00 pm

    Class personified.

  3. tomingeorgia February 19th, 2014 at 2:00 pm

    mnmboys February 19th, 2014 at 1:51 pm
    Tom –

    Corner OF
    O’Neil
    Henderson
    Winfield
    ———————————————-
    I’ll take Henderson and Winfield.

  4. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 19th, 2014 at 2:03 pm

    About rooting for the laundry and those who honor the sacred interlocking NY:

    “You want to be remembered as someone that played hard. But for me, I’ve always said it time and time again, the most sacred thing, the thing that means the most to me is to be remembered as a Yankee.”

    The alpha and the omega Derek. God bless you.

  5. Shame Spencer February 19th, 2014 at 2:03 pm

    Mount Rushmore of Lohud:

    Shame Spencer (x3).

  6. Poetkiosk February 19th, 2014 at 2:05 pm

    Too bad everyone does think the same way as Derek – (ie Cano)

  7. Giuseppe Franco February 19th, 2014 at 2:06 pm

    I don’t think the Yanks would do that in a single day.

    They’d sell more tickets if they gave each guy their own day.

    Also not sure Pettitte or Posada will get monuments. Their status in Yankee lore is much closer to Paul O’Neill than Jeter, Rivera, or Mattingly.

  8. tomingeorgia February 19th, 2014 at 2:06 pm

    Such becoming modesty, Shame.

  9. tomingeorgia February 19th, 2014 at 2:07 pm

    Shame,
    Who’s the fourth?

  10. Jerkface February 19th, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    @CliffCorcoran 1m

    The sound of Puig hitting a Kenley Jansen pitch on the nose. Gonna leave that open and just let it loop. MT @Dodgers https://vine.co/v/MZw26VmY1Xm

    This puig vine owns, what a crack

  11. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 19th, 2014 at 2:12 pm

    Poetkiosk – the funny thing is that most players I can think of (who have played for the Yanks) have tried to honor the uniform. When you think about the veterans from other teams who ended up here – except for one in particular from Beantown who didn’t end up playing many games during the 2013 season – they are beyond excited to be putting on the Yankee uniform.

    There is such a respect for the Yankee tradition throughout the world, I can only imagine it has to be magnified a million times for the players themselves!

    Sure, every once-in-a-while you run up against someone who seems to be there for the glory it brings for him personally, not to mention the money, and who is willing to do anything he wants to make himself happy, despite tarnishing the Yankee name in the process. But they only seem to come along every 2004…

  12. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 19th, 2014 at 2:14 pm

    For anyone who didn’t see it (that would include me up until today), here’s DJ on the Jimmy Fallon show, where they’ve written a song for when he comes to bat. Pretty funny.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0ApVyU-roo

  13. pat February 19th, 2014 at 2:14 pm

    Esteemed baseball writer and Times columnist Larry Stone joined the fray of reporters this morning. He politely walked up to McClendon and said, “Hey Lloyd, I’m Larry Stone from the Seattle Times,” and the two shook hands.

    McClendon then paused briefly, looked at Stone and said, “Hey, you’re the guy that keeps butt dialing me.”

    “Do I?” Stone said meekly.

    Of course, the entire room broke up in laughter.

    Stone then admitted his guilt, saying that for some reason McClendon’s number is the one that seems to get dialed when this happens.

    This just didn’t start when McClendon got the job. This has been going on for five or six years.

    “I always said, ‘The next time I see him, I’m going to tell him, Stop butt dialing me.’” McClendon said.

  14. Shame Spencer February 19th, 2014 at 2:14 pm

    tomingeorgia February 19th, 2014 at 2:07 pm

    Shame,
    Who’s the fourth?

    ————–

    Oh good point, I meant Shame + x3 Shame, but I guess it would have been better to just say Shame x4.

    I could be wearing different outfits/accessories in each sculpting. Variety is important.

  15. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 19th, 2014 at 2:17 pm

    Shame, I don’t know if you’ve been watching Olympic hockey – I haven’t – but I read about the huge controversy involving the goal taken back from the Russians and how the referee has been getting massive death threats over in Russia.

    If you did watch it, or know anything about it, was that a good (legit) call on his part, or was it an unfortunate mistake?

  16. pat February 19th, 2014 at 2:17 pm

    HardballTalk
    Brandon Phillips refuses to speak to the media http://wp.me/p14QSL-298z

  17. Shame Spencer February 19th, 2014 at 2:19 pm

    pat – Amazing story lmao.

  18. Hankflorida February 19th, 2014 at 2:20 pm

    The greatest Yankee should be by decade and how they contributed to the team. Ruth should be the 1920.’s, Gehrig the 1930′s, DiMaggio the 1940′s, Mantle the 1950′s and into the 1960′s, Reggie, the 1970′s, Mattingly the 1980′s, Jeter the 1990′s and up to the present, I leave that to many of you to decide as the 21st century is not as clear cut.

  19. blake February 19th, 2014 at 2:20 pm

    HardballTalk
    Brandon Phillips refuses to speak to the media http://wp.me/p14QSL-298z

    yea he’d be great in NY…..

  20. Jerkface February 19th, 2014 at 2:21 pm

    Someone needs to invent a phone operated purely via butt control. Imagine those selfies.

  21. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 19th, 2014 at 2:21 pm

    About luis and moving out of his country. I know that on various occasions, posters here have offered refuge to luis and his family, and of course I think that’s great. But each time I’ve seen it, I’ve thought about how hard it would have to be to move away from your country and start anew elsewhere. On top of it, to come to the US, when the country is in a recession, and hope to find work and be able to support your family when you are successful in your own country and would just have to give up your business and probably not even be able to withdraw all of your own money from the banks there, well that would have to feel impossible. He has a family to support.

    All of that is easy for me to imagine, of course, because I am in the land of milk and honey thinking about it. Maybe my thoughts would be different if I were inside a country such as his.

    I pray for his and jmv’s safety and well being, and their families’ as well.

  22. Shame Spencer February 19th, 2014 at 2:21 pm

    If you did watch it, or know anything about it, was that a good (legit) call on his part, or was it an unfortunate mistake?

    ——————–

    It was a good call. The net was knocked off before the puck was shot or got in the net, so it’s no goal. With how the Russians played today, I don’t think it should stick as a point of controversy. They were pretty flat and didn’t get it done against a beatable team.

  23. Shame Spencer February 19th, 2014 at 2:24 pm

    Canada vs. USA at noon on Friday in the semi finals…. gonna be a battle.

  24. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 19th, 2014 at 2:25 pm

    Shame, I was just thinking that they’d try to use that domino effect thing if it was a bad call, saying that but for the bad call, they wouldn’t be in the position to have been playing Canada (or whoever they played and lost to), the wind was out of their sails, etc. Now maybe they wouldn’t say any of those things, but you know what I mean.

  25. Shame Spencer February 19th, 2014 at 2:26 pm

    The women’s teams (USA and Canada) play tomorrow in the semis at noon.

  26. tomingeorgia February 19th, 2014 at 2:28 pm

    Trisha,
    I just think there comes a point where a person has to stand and fight. I believe that is what luis has chosen to do, God bless and keep him safe.

  27. Shame Spencer February 19th, 2014 at 2:29 pm

    It’s possible if the call wasn’t made correctly it could have led to a win, but it’s hard to say that definitively since there was a lot of time left in the 3rd period. The US ended up beating them in a shootout, which is the definition of a crap shoot.

    Finland is a good club, but the Russians had a lot of fire power.. they just couldn’t score. And I dunno how competent their coaching staff was. Tough loss for the country and the players but I’m not all that upset we won’t need to face them again. Canada will give us enough fits for one tournament.

  28. tomingeorgia February 19th, 2014 at 2:30 pm

    That Kessel can flat fly!

  29. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 19th, 2014 at 2:32 pm

    tom, what a terrible way to have to live. Yes, God bless and keep him safe.

  30. tomingeorgia February 19th, 2014 at 2:34 pm

    trisha,
    But to turn and run is worse when your cause is right.

  31. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 19th, 2014 at 2:35 pm

    tom, of course I agree with that. I’m just thinking about how terrible the day-to-day existence has to be.

  32. blake February 19th, 2014 at 2:37 pm

    Im remembering why I stopped working out now…..oh the pain

  33. tbone1570 February 19th, 2014 at 2:37 pm

    Shame Spencer February 19th, 2014 at 2:26 pm

    The women’s teams (USA and Canada) play tomorrow in the semis at noon.
    ********************
    Shame,

    It’s the Gold medal game tomorrow.

  34. Ys Guy February 19th, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    P: Whitey Ford
    C: Yogi Berra
    1B:Moose Skowron
    2b: Robinson Cano
    ss: Derek Jeeter
    3rd:Greg Nettles
    LF:
    CF: Mickey Mantle
    RF:
    RP: Duh!
    Fill in the blanks, please.
    ———————————-
    HOF’ers Ricky and Reggie of course!

    Rickey at his best with the Yankees was as good a ballplayer as I’ve ever seen.

  35. Bad Scooter February 19th, 2014 at 2:39 pm

    Shame – You mistyped. Gold medal game tomorrow for ladies.

  36. tomingeorgia February 19th, 2014 at 2:39 pm

    trisha,
    But to know you might die any minute brings wonderful clarity of mind and spirit.

  37. Shame Spencer February 19th, 2014 at 2:45 pm

    You guys are correct, I mistakenly said semi’s but it’s the Gold Medal Game. All CAPS necessary.

  38. tomingeorgia February 19th, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    Ys,
    Winfield over Reggie.

  39. Shame Spencer February 19th, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    tom – Well said.

    blake – Tell me about it. Last night as I laid in bed I could feel ever muscle aching.. one of those good and bad feelings all at once.

  40. Ys Guy February 19th, 2014 at 2:50 pm

    hey i liked Winfield alot, but no way over Reggie.

    Reggie was Money.

  41. Hassey February 19th, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    dont forget Jerry Mumphrey

  42. blake February 19th, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    Chris Cotillo ?@ChrisCotillo 6m
    Cuban SS Aledmys Diaz is likely to sign within the next 2-3 days.

  43. Ys Guy February 19th, 2014 at 2:54 pm

    Reggie personified the George Steinbrenner Yankees.

    The hype, the star-power, the controversy and the triumph all rolled into one guy.

  44. Hassey February 19th, 2014 at 2:54 pm

    Libertad
    Libertad
    Libertad

  45. Shame Spencer February 19th, 2014 at 2:55 pm

    I hope we get Diaz.. it sounds like he’s got some warts but having any INF depth under the age of 25 would be nice. He might be able to stick at 2B… it’s these moments when I wish Bowa was still a part of the organization. One of my all time favorite Yankee coaches.

  46. Hassey February 19th, 2014 at 2:56 pm

    Bowa on the coaches’ Mt Rushmore?

  47. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 19th, 2014 at 2:56 pm

    Speaking of muscles potentially aching –

    Only driveway on my street not plowed out. :( I can’t go anywhere. It’s the kind of snow that is now basically ice, and you know what happens to the end of your driveway when the plow comes up and down!

    I told my guy not to bother plowing me out unless we got 6 inches of snow or more. Well I’ve been basically doing it myself, but just enough to get out. Sunday I shoveled the equivalent of two tire-track widths and then had to put sand on them because I couldn’t get down deep enough as I got to the end up the driveway, and I kept skidding on the pileup at the end. Well we’ve had snow twice since then, so my handiwork has been since buried. I did call my guy and he said he’d been here as soon as he could. That was last night. I’ve been dogging going out there and doing it myself because as hard as the snow is now, I don’t think I can get a shovel into it!

    The reason I told him not to come unless there were 6 inches or more is because I got sick of paying $30 every time we had a flake of snow come down! And since I was sick for a while, I didn’t have the energy to go out there and totally shovel myself out.

    I think I’m going to have to go out there and give it a go because otherwise I will not be able to leave the house, and I do have some things I want to do.

  48. Blojaldo February 19th, 2014 at 3:03 pm

    Jeter was Jeter, that he will be missed is an understatement. I hope he plays well this season, injury free. He deserves to go out that way.

  49. PhiltheThrill February 19th, 2014 at 3:05 pm

    Diaz can’t sign till tomorrow.

  50. Russell Munson February 19th, 2014 at 3:05 pm

    “Brandon Phillips refuses to speak to the media”

    This should play well when the Yankees trade Gardner for him.

  51. Shame Spencer February 19th, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    Did anyone else notice that even Derek Jeter is mocking Bret’s proclamations that Gardner will be traded lol…??

  52. Giuseppe Franco February 19th, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    blake February 19th, 2014 at 2:37 pm

    Im remembering why I stopped working out now…..oh the pain

    —-

    DOMS (Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness) is actually a primary goal among a significant number of hardcore lifters/bodybuilders each and every workout (myself included).

    Its more mental than anything but I always feel a bit bummed when I’m NOT sore as hell the morning after a workout because I feel like I didn’t hit the gym hard enough.

    I’m a very big believer in stretching. It’s not going to be a miracle cure, but stretching those sore muscles regularly will help to alleviate some of that soreness.

  53. Jerkface February 19th, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    http://mlb.si.com/2014/02/19/r.....es-hustle/

    This article about cano by Jay Jaffe is really good at putting things in perspective.

  54. blake February 19th, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    GF,
    i’ve found that the best way to avoid sore muscles is to not work out at all :) I don’t think my legs have been this sore ever…..sign of a good workout and that I’m getting old

  55. blake February 19th, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    Hustling to 1B is merely an esthetic thing…..it doesn’t really help make you a better player….it just looks better (although I can think of twice last year where Cano got thrown out at 2B because he didn’t run hard out of the box)…..still…..I’d rather have the guy that plays 160 a year than the dirty uniform guy that’s hurt all the time.

    Cano for the most part went hard when he needed to and coasted when he didn’t….it may look bad to fans but it really doesn’t matter all that much.

  56. Hankflorida February 19th, 2014 at 3:25 pm

    Ysguy and Tom, I put Mattingly as the greatest Yankee player of the 1980′s over two Hall of Fame players Henderson and Winfield. Would you agree?

  57. tomingeorgia February 19th, 2014 at 3:30 pm

    I never heard of anybody getting hurt by running hard to first, except me who tore a hamstring after being late to practice on a 40 degree Massachusetts afternoon.

  58. Giuseppe Franco February 19th, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    blake February 19th, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    GF,
    i’ve found that the best way to avoid sore muscles is to not work out at all :) I don’t think my legs have been this sore ever…..sign of a good workout and that I’m getting old

    —-

    LOL. Sore legs is a GOOD thing. They are the largest and strongest muscles in your entire body so the quickest way to increase your muscle mass and full body strength is hitting your legs hard.

    I always hit my legs ultra hard with tons of squats, lunges, step ups, etc, etc, and it always takes 5 days for them to fully recover.

    The endorphin rush I get from heavy lifting makes me feel like Superman.

  59. Jerkface February 19th, 2014 at 3:33 pm

    I never heard of anybody getting hurt by running hard to first

    ????? Really? You’ve never heard of a player running into another player at first while hustling, pulling a muscle, or turning their ankle? You should probably start watching baseball then :)

    Bubba Crosby ran hard to first and dislocated Brian Roberts elbow.

  60. tomingeorgia February 19th, 2014 at 3:33 pm

    Hank,
    I can’t argue with you. Can I have all three? Three totally different players, all superb.

  61. Giuseppe Franco February 19th, 2014 at 3:33 pm

    tomingeorgia February 19th, 2014 at 3:30 pm

    I never heard of anybody getting hurt by running hard to first, except me who tore a hamstring after being late to practice on a 40 degree Massachusetts afternoon.

    —–

    It happened to me – twice.

    Got plantar fasciiits in both feet from running to 1B and landing on the bag really hard on two separate occasions.

  62. Jerkface February 19th, 2014 at 3:35 pm

    The article I linked even points out a specific instance of Jeter re-injuring himself by hustling to first. Lets not pretend like going all out doesnt carry injury risk. Unless you’re super human and invincible you have to balance how you expend your energy. Thats just common sense.

  63. Blojaldo February 19th, 2014 at 3:38 pm

    blake February 19th, 2014 at 3:24 pm
    Hustling to 1B is merely an esthetic thing…..it doesn’t really help make you a better player….it just looks better (although I can think of twice last year where Cano got thrown out at 2B because he didn’t run hard out of the box)…..still…..I’d rather have the guy that plays 160 a year than the dirty uniform guy that’s hurt all the time. Cano for the most part went hard when he needed to and coasted when he didn’t….it may look bad to fans but it really doesn’t matter all that much.
    _____________________

    It matters a great deal. Baseball is a team sport and great players lead by example. A player who wants to be respected doesn’t put himself above the team and decide that “he will decide when to hustle.”

  64. Chip February 19th, 2014 at 3:38 pm

    blake February 19th, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    Hustling to 1B is merely an esthetic thing…..it doesn’t really help make you a better player….it just looks better (although I can think of twice last year where Cano got thrown out at 2B because he didn’t run hard out of the box)…..still…..I’d rather have the guy that plays 160 a year than the dirty uniform guy that’s hurt all the time.

    Cano for the most part went hard when he needed to and coasted when he didn’t….it may look bad to fans but it really doesn’t matter all that much.
    ——————————-

    Jeter ran hard every time and it wasn’t until he was 39 that he had leg problems.

    Look, end of the day you’re right that it doesn’t really matter on a grounder to 2b if the guy runs hard or coasts – he’ll still be out. But the thing is, it’s such a little thing that requires such minimal effort on the part of Cano why wouldn’t you do it just to shut up the vocal few who were using it as a point of criticism?

    Cano made it a big deal by not doing it.

    And even if you wanted to argue with either of those two points, there’s one point that is also worth mentioning. His coach told him to do something – when that happens, you do it. Would Cano have been a better player if Girardi benched him like Manual benched J-Roll or like Dusty benched Phillips or Randolph benched Reyes? Probably not…but he still should have done it (run a little harder).

  65. Chip February 19th, 2014 at 3:41 pm

    Jerkface February 19th, 2014 at 3:33 pm

    I never heard of anybody getting hurt by running hard to first

    ????? Really? You’ve never heard of a player running into another player at first while hustling, pulling a muscle, or turning their ankle? You should probably start watching baseball then :)

    Bubba Crosby ran hard to first and dislocated Brian Roberts elbow.
    —————

    My guess is that the instances of a player hurting himself running hard to 1b are as infrequent as the instances of a player who runs hard to first base being safe on a ground ball to an infielder.

    Your Crosby analogy doesn’t work. Bubba didn’t hurt himself by running hard, he ran hard, forced a play (which is what you want) and Roberts got hurt (which is unfortunate).

  66. Blojaldo February 19th, 2014 at 3:42 pm

    Jerkface February 19th, 2014 at 3:35 pm
    The article I linked even points out a specific instance of Jeter re-injuring himself by hustling to first. Lets not pretend like going all out doesnt carry injury risk. Unless you’re super human and invincible you have to balance how you expend your energy. Thats just common sense.
    __________________

    That’s your common sense it is not the prevailing mindset in team sports. There is risk involved in circling the bases after a home run or any at bat. That’s no excuse. Hustle and giving your all, as Jeter does, should be a given. If you respect the game and your teammates and your manager you hustle all the time.

  67. tomingeorgia February 19th, 2014 at 3:43 pm

    Jerkface,
    Conceded.
    But the 45 foot right turn is a parody of baseball.

  68. Chip February 19th, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    Jerkface February 19th, 2014 at 3:35 pm

    The article I linked even points out a specific instance of Jeter re-injuring himself by hustling to first.
    —————-

    Jeter was also 8 years older than Cano and coming off injury.

    A healthy 30-year old should be able to run 90 feet without a problem.

    We’re not talking about sprinting like your pants are on fire.

  69. Chip February 19th, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    And for what it’s worth – Long never said “run all out” he said that even if Cano had dialed it up to 80% it would have been enough to shut up the critics who were calling him a dog.

  70. Jerkface February 19th, 2014 at 3:48 pm

    We’re not talking about sprinting like your pants are on fire.

    Yea and Cano wasn’t walking to first base. He wasn’t very fast to begin with so his 80% probably looks worse than Jeter’s 80% or Gardner’s 80% or whatever.

    If you want a guy to go all out all the time you have to expect injury. Some guys won’t suffer for it, that depends on their make up, but Cano was obviously doing a lot of things very right because he was one of the best players in the game and played every game and rarely got hurt.

  71. blake February 19th, 2014 at 3:49 pm

    “It matters a great deal. Baseball is a team sport and great players lead by example. A player who wants to be respected doesn’t put himself above the team and decide that “he will decide when to hustle.”

    well it’s possible that it played a role in why Cano is a Mariner now and not a Yankee…..but with regards to his performance on the field it hardly mattered at all.

  72. mnmboys February 19th, 2014 at 3:49 pm

    Blake – running hard out of the box is not an aesthetic thing….. It puts pressure on the defensive player to make a play cleanly and get rid of the ball quickly. This is something that should be taught to every little leaguer. It is playing the game the right way. Jeter does it and defenders know they have to be perfect with him at bat. Cano, Big Poppy, etc do not and defenders know they have all day to make a play. There is a purpose to running hard out of the box and it is not for show.

  73. blake February 19th, 2014 at 3:50 pm

    “Cano made it a big deal by not doing it.”

    I think the thing for the Yankees may have been that they continually asked him to do it and he just wouldn’t…..it’s not like it’s hard to run to 1b or anything.

  74. Chip February 19th, 2014 at 3:52 pm

    Jerkface February 19th, 2014 at 3:48 pm

    We’re not talking about sprinting like your pants are on fire.

    Yea and Cano wasn’t walking to first base. He wasn’t very fast to begin with so his 80% probably looks worse than Jeter’s 80% or Gardner’s 80% or whatever.

    If you want a guy to go all out all the time you have to expect injury. Some guys won’t suffer for it, that depends on their make up, but Cano was obviously doing a lot of things very right because he was one of the best players in the game and played every game and rarely got hurt.
    ————————–

    First of all – if you’re going to say that Cano was putting any effort into running out those balls then you’re the one who needs to start watching games.

    Second – Clearly Cano does a lot of things well, works hard and is a fantastic player. Long says as much and no one is doubting that. The question was why wouldn’t he do this one thing that was so easy? Seriously, he wasn’t being asked to hit 75 HR a year or bat .400 – he was being asked to run a little harder. If you’re saying that he was afraid to run hard for fear of being hurt I will say that’s possibly the dumbest excuse I’ve seen in a long time. He’s a young man in good shape with no history of injuries – he can run 90 feet without fear of breaking.

  75. Hassey February 19th, 2014 at 3:53 pm

    yes, running hard to first could mean five more hits/forced errors each year, which could mean five more wins each year or at least five more tack-on runs to save key BP guys, or it could mean etc etc etc

  76. Blojaldo February 19th, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    Cano has mad baseball skills but there are other considerations that are equally as important and the Yankees obviously made the judgment not to go all in. Perhaps one day those details will see the light of day. I won’t miss Cano at all, the entire package leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Lack of hustle, showing no respect for the Yankee legacy, dissing Girardi and throw in his friendships with Melky and A-Rod, etc. We didn’t win it all the last four years with him, moving on.

  77. blake February 19th, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    “Blake – running hard out of the box is not an aesthetic thing….. It puts pressure on the defensive player to make a play cleanly and get rid of the ball quickly. This is something that should be taught to every little leaguer. It is playing the game the right way”

    I’m not disagreeing with that but there is a huge difference in little league and the big leagues….for one big leaguers rarely make errors on routine plays unless Nunez is playing so 99% of the time when you hit a GB to 2B you’re out……that’s not the case in little league or even high school. I agree that it’s a sign of leadership to do it….but again as I said it’s mostly an esthetic thing to due to lead by example for other players…..it looks better….it doesn’t make you a better player.

  78. Jerkface February 19th, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    It puts pressure on the defensive player to make a play cleanly and get rid of the ball quickly.

    I think this only matters for players with good speed. David Ortiz hustling isn’t putting pressure on the defense, they still have all day.

  79. blake February 19th, 2014 at 3:56 pm

    I’ve said that there were reasons beyond money why Cano isn’t still a Yankee…..running balls out most likely is one of those reasons. The Yankees reportedly asked him numerous times to do it and he wouldn’t……they offered him 175 million but when you’re talking about going to wherever it takes to keep a player…..they weren’t going to do it for Cano.

  80. Jerkface February 19th, 2014 at 3:57 pm

    He’s a young man in good shape with no history of injuries – he can run 90 feet without fear of breaking.

    You assume that his lack of injuries is independent of him choosing not to run out certain balls. He doesn’t lack hustle every play, given all his triples and doubles and infield hits.

  81. Chip February 19th, 2014 at 3:57 pm

    blake February 19th, 2014 at 3:50 pm

    “Cano made it a big deal by not doing it.”

    I think the thing for the Yankees may have been that they continually asked him to do it and he just wouldn’t…..it’s not like it’s hard to run to 1b or anything.
    ———————-

    I clearly have no inside information to back this up but I think that the Yankees had three points of concerns with Cano:

    1. He isn’t a draw at the gate
    2. He was very close to some prominent steroid users and the Yankees didn’t want to give him a 10 year deal and have his name pop up on a list with Alex and Melky.
    3. If a guy doesn’t listen before he gets paid, he’s not going to listen after he gets paid.

    Do you really think that a retread manager like Lloyd McClendon would win if he ever had to go to toe to toe with Cano in Seattle over anything?

  82. Hassey February 19th, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    I for one who love to know why Cano suddenly stopped lashing liners down the LF line.

    It cant be that noone pitched him outside

  83. blake February 19th, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    Cano ran hard on balls where he smelled a hit…..all players do that. When he hit a ball that was going to be a tough play for a fielder he ran……he loafed on the routine plays……guess what….most players do! Jeter, Arod, and Gardner were like like the only Yankees that ran balls out. Arod always runs like crazy too……nobody cares because he took steroids.

  84. Hassey February 19th, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    McClendon and K-Long are the undercard for DMX-Zimmermann

  85. Jerkface February 19th, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    Tex loafs a bunch but no one cares because he is white.

  86. blake February 19th, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    Chip,
    there are a lot of factors as to why Cano isn’t a Yankee today……but the main point to remember is that if the Yankees wanted him to be then he would be.

  87. blake February 19th, 2014 at 4:00 pm

    “Tex loafs a bunch but no one cares because he is white.”

    eh….I think he’s just so slow it looks like he’s loafing. He actually runs hard with that goofy look on his face most of the time.

  88. Hassey February 19th, 2014 at 4:00 pm

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  89. Jerkface February 19th, 2014 at 4:01 pm

    eh….I think he’s just so slow it looks like he’s loafing. He actually runs hard with that goofy look on his face most of the time.

    Theres a difference between Tex’s terminator style running on balls he hits to the outfield and how he runs sometimes on balls hit to the shift/1b.

  90. Shame Spencer February 19th, 2014 at 4:02 pm

    Arod does always hustle.. probably looked more like he did before the hip surgeries. But it’s true. I realize I’m in the minority but I wish he was playing this year because we could use his bat.

  91. Chip February 19th, 2014 at 4:02 pm

    Jerkface February 19th, 2014 at 3:57 pm

    He’s a young man in good shape with no history of injuries – he can run 90 feet without fear of breaking.

    You assume that his lack of injuries is independent of him choosing not to run out certain balls. He doesn’t lack hustle every play, given all his triples and doubles and infield hits.
    ————————-
    No he doesn’t lack hustle on every play…but the point is that you shouldn’t lack it on any play.

    How many times in a game does he hit a weak ground ball to an infielder – 1 or 2? You’re telling me that running a little harder an extra 200 times over the course of a season is going to significantly improve your odds of getting hurt? Bull.

    Look, I know how this goes. You’ve entrenched yourself in a contrarian position and will stay there no matter who says what. I’m getting off this particular train with you.

  92. Russell Munson February 19th, 2014 at 4:03 pm

    “We didn’t win it all the last four years with him, moving on.”

    We didn’t win anything with Mattingly either.

  93. Hassey February 19th, 2014 at 4:03 pm

    I dont care if Tex helps us win
    I just dont want his K’s and pop-ups behind third to mount to the point where they help us lose

  94. mnmboys February 19th, 2014 at 4:03 pm

    Jeter is a SS. He knows as a defender when guys bust it out of the box there is more sense of urgency getting the ball to first base. Why not put that urgency on other infielders when you are at bat? In addition I am sure his father instilled in him from a young age that you play the game the right way and hustle. As captain he is also leading by example. One thing you can control as a baseball player is your hustle.

  95. Hassey February 19th, 2014 at 4:04 pm

    I hustle on all of my posts here

  96. Chip February 19th, 2014 at 4:04 pm

    blake February 19th, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    Chip,
    there are a lot of factors as to why Cano isn’t a Yankee today……but the main point to remember is that if the Yankees wanted him to be then he would be.
    ——————–

    The Yankees did the right thing not re-signing Cano to the deal he wanted. Where they screwed up was if they knew that he wasn’t going to come off that position, they should have traded him during the summer. But it’s not in Steinbrenner blood to wave a white flag and dealing Cano would have signaled that to the fan base.

    It is what it is.

  97. blake February 19th, 2014 at 4:04 pm

    “Theres a difference between Tex’s terminator style running on balls he hits to the outfield and how he runs sometimes on balls hit to the shift/1b.”

    most of the time when he hits a GB I’m throwing the remote so I don’t always pay attention.

  98. Blojaldo February 19th, 2014 at 4:05 pm

    Jerkface February 19th, 2014 at 3:59 pm
    Tex loafs a bunch but no one cares because he is white.
    ________________________

    Mind boggling comment bringing up race as an issue in baseball in 2014. Speechless.

  99. Chip February 19th, 2014 at 4:05 pm

    Shame Spencer February 19th, 2014 at 4:02 pm

    Arod does always hustle.. probably looked more like he did before the hip surgeries. But it’s true. I realize I’m in the minority but I wish he was playing this year because we could use his bat.
    ———————-

    If Alex was healthy and not suspended the team would be better than it is today – potentially. You never know what the Yankees might have done differently if they had his money on the books.

  100. blake February 19th, 2014 at 4:06 pm

    “Jeter is a SS. He knows as a defender when guys bust it out of the box there is more sense of urgency getting the ball to first base. Why not put that urgency on other infielders when you are at bat? In addition I am sure his father instilled in him from a young age that you play the game the right way and hustle. As captain he is also leading by example. One thing you can control as a baseball player is your hustle.”

    that’s why we love him right? But that’s not why he’s going to the HOF…..he’s going to the HOF because he could hit…..Cano isn’t Jeter…..he’s a darn good player but he just wasn’t going to run out ground balls. He still got 240 million dollars to play baseball……

  101. blake February 19th, 2014 at 4:07 pm

    Arod always runs hard…..he ran just as hard as Jeter before all the injuries and then he ran as hard as he could. Nobody can ever say Arod didn’t play his tail off between the lines.

  102. Jerkface February 19th, 2014 at 4:09 pm

    How many times in a game does he hit a weak ground ball to an infielder – 1 or 2? You’re telling me that running a little harder an extra 200 times over the course of a season is going to significantly improve your odds of getting hurt? Bull.

    Look, I know how this goes. You’ve entrenched yourself in a contrarian position and will stay there no matter who says what. I’m getting off this particular train with you.

    I’m merely opposed to the tyranny of the hustle police. And I don’t think that any player has to give 100% 100% of the time. There are logical reasons not to, you seem to think players are invincible, which is fine whatever. Players should careen into walls and each other in the outfield, barrel into each other on the infield, and run regardless of fatigue and injury concern.

    Its my actual opinion. That should be pretty clear given my history of posting. I don’t take stances simply to oppose you, Chip.

    As for your first point. Sorry, but no way was Cano not hustling on a third of his at bats. Thats a ludicrous assertion. Cano only hits around ~240 ground balls in a season and a lot of those are going for hits and a certain amount of them will be hard enough that he is going to run it out or positioned well enough that he will run it out or hit weak enough that he is smelling infield hit.

    I don’t like the hyperbole associated with this. Players never get hurt running hard, Cano doesn’t run hard 200 times! Blah blah blah.

  103. Shame Spencer February 19th, 2014 at 4:12 pm

    People keep saying Cano doesn’t sell tickets with literally no evidence… does anyone predict an uptick in M’s attendance? No?

  104. tomingeorgia February 19th, 2014 at 4:14 pm

    Jerkface, add to the hyperbole that the reason people don’t like Cano’s style is that he’s black.

  105. mnmboys February 19th, 2014 at 4:15 pm

    Cano is the reason Cano is not a Yankee today. Yankees offered him 7yrs for 25AAV. That is more AAV than what he is getting now. He could have gone back to JayZ and said get a mutually acceptable option for the 8 yr. that would have bridged the gap a bit. Money he would have made in endorsements, the potential to be a lifetime Yankee, enshrined in monument park, potentially the next Yankee Captain, etc would have outweighed the difference of the last 2 yrs salary in my opinion. Those things didn’t mean anything to Cano though. For that I will boo him mightily as a season ticket holder every time he comes to the plate.

  106. Ys Guy February 19th, 2014 at 4:15 pm

    running the cashspeak through the process of elimination it would seem the Yankees are going to ask Beltran and/or Soriano to back up first base.

    he also said that Brian Roberts “was the best guy on the board when robbie came off”

  107. Shame Spencer February 19th, 2014 at 4:15 pm

    Also, in light of Jeter’s retirement I’d like to put a new spin on the ‘spoiled Yankee fan’ nonsense we hear about all the time.

    If Derek Jeter played for any other team, you know this blog would be full of people talking about not doing it in the spotlight of NY and how he didn’t play in the hardest division and how he didn’t deserve all those gold glove (that, had he played for another team, he probably wouldn’t have won anyway).

    Real talk.

  108. Chip February 19th, 2014 at 4:16 pm

    Shame Spencer February 19th, 2014 at 4:12 pm

    People keep saying Cano doesn’t sell tickets with literally no evidence… does anyone predict an uptick in M’s attendance? No?
    ————————–

    Last year Cano was the only healthy star on the team – and the Yankees didn’t draw (despite it being Mo’s last year and the team actually being interesting for chunks). The team did draw when Derek and Alex returned. That’s the difference between a team wanting to lock you up for 10 years and not – your ability to put dollars back into the team’s pocket.

  109. Ys Guy February 19th, 2014 at 4:16 pm

    i dislike arod as much as anyone but his effort is unquestionable imo.

  110. Shame Spencer February 19th, 2014 at 4:16 pm

    he also said that Brian Roberts “was the best guy on the board when robbie came off”

    ————

    Is this accurate…? Infante is probably better than Roberts. I know he plays all over the diamond but Cash-speak is really just another term for ‘spin’

  111. Jerkface February 19th, 2014 at 4:17 pm

    Jerkface, add to the hyperbole that the reason people don’t like Cano’s style is that he’s black.

    A 2012 study of major league broadcasts by Adam Felder and Seth Amitin for The Atlantic showed that minority players were disproportionately represented among those most criticized by broadcasters, and that foreign-born players were at a considerable disadvantage when it came to being praised for effort, character or other intangibles.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/ent.....es/261265/

  112. Chip February 19th, 2014 at 4:17 pm

    Ys Guy February 19th, 2014 at 4:15 pm

    running the cashspeak through the process of elimination it would seem the Yankees are going to ask Beltran and/or Soriano to back up first base.

    he also said that Brian Roberts “was the best guy on the board when robbie came off”
    ——————–

    I think Kelly Johnson will be more likely to be the BU 1b than either of those two.

    I think the Yankees would have preferred Omar Infante, but not for 4 years. I don’t really blame them there.

  113. Shame Spencer February 19th, 2014 at 4:19 pm

    Last year Cano was the only healthy star on the team – and the Yankees didn’t draw (despite it being Mo’s last year and the team actually being interesting for chunks). The team did draw when Derek and Alex returned. That’s the difference between a team wanting to lock you up for 10 years and not – your ability to put dollars back into the team’s pocket.

    —————–

    I don’t know that anything you’ve said provides proof that Cano doesn’t sell tickets. No one came to see Mo’s last year is how I look at it. But I know I know, he doesn’t play every day so that doesn’t count.

    This is not ever a statement made based in reality when you’re talking about a team that stopped being in playoff contention in June and never came back into the picture. The uptick in sales when Alex returned also happened to be when the team was trying to make a push. You can point to a ton of variables to explain sales. Besides, Cano not being Jeter or Arod is kind of a crappy point of comparison. Those are literally iconic players.

  114. Ys Guy February 19th, 2014 at 4:19 pm

    Beltran’s a very good athelete with good feet. I think he could do well at 1B.

    Soriano, on the other hand looked awkward when they first put him at 2B and then again when Washington moved him to the OF. He has become a much better OF over time though.

  115. Shame Spencer February 19th, 2014 at 4:19 pm

    If the M’s have an uptick in ticket sales that would be proof that Cano sells tickets. Real evidence.

  116. Shame Spencer February 19th, 2014 at 4:20 pm

    Actually my memory is fuzzy.. does anyone remember the exact date we stopped being a playoff team?

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