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Girardi: Tanaka won’t avoid A.L. East opponents this spring

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 21, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Masahiro Tanaka

In the past, the Yankees have avoided letting their starting pitchers face American League East opponents in spring training. The theory is that pitchers lose some of the high ground when hitters gain experience against them, and so the Yankees have been hesitant to give up that advantage.

But Joe Girardi said today that he won’t necessarily follow the same philosophy when it comes to Masahiro Tanaka.

“I think it’s important that he see major-league hitters and has an idea of what he’s going to approach,” Girardi said. “You think about some early games, what are they going to see him, one at-bat? Maybe they’ll see him two at-bats. So I don’t think that’s necessarily a huge thing. We’ve got to get this guy comfortable pitching in surroundings that he’s going to be in, and I think that’s more important than a team not seeing him once.”

Just a matter of setting priorities, I guess. If Tanaka’s turn happens to fall on a day when the Yankees are facing a division rival, the Yankees have to choose which is more important: keeping him a mystery by sending him to pitch in a minor league game or giving him experience by exposing him to A.L. East hitters. I expected the Yankees to choose the minor league games, but I can’t say that I know for certain which approach would be most effective. He probably does need to see as many big league hitters as possible, but being a total mystery does seem to be a significant advantage.

Despite the desire to get Tanaka into major-league games, and despite Tanaka saying today that he wants to pitch in games sooner rather than later, Girardi said he’s not planning to push Tanaka into games faster than the other top four starters.

“I don’t necessarily think that he’s going to be necessarily in a game earlier than anybody else,” Girardi said. “I don’t. He’s going to get, basically, they usually get (about) six starts. He’s basically going to get that.”

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114 Responses to “Girardi: Tanaka won’t avoid A.L. East opponents this spring”

  1. GregD February 21st, 2014 at 2:48 pm

    GregD February 21st, 2014 at 2:45 pm
    Shame Spencer February 21st, 2014 at 2:19 pm
    Let’s list every guy that could be a pen arm this year:

    Robertson
    Claiborne
    Thorton
    Kelley
    Phelps
    Warren
    Montgomery
    Dellin

    Who am I missing?

    —————–
    Cabral
    Whitley

  2. Jerkface February 21st, 2014 at 2:49 pm

    Just looking at the names and I have to wonder why the YAnkees didn’t get 1 veteran guy for the pen this offseason…

    I think Robertson, Claiborne, Thornton, Kelley will be fine. Those guys collectively should be above average. But wouldn’t it be better if there were a Balfour in that mix?

  3. Jerkface February 21st, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    Montgomery and Dellin are the 2 guys that could make an impact. Montgomery was such an awesome relief prospect, he needs to get back in the game!

  4. Shame Spencer February 21st, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    I like the depth in that group. Balfour would have made them better, for sure, but I think it’s a good group to go into the season with.

  5. Melkmanisinhotlanta February 21st, 2014 at 3:05 pm

    Montero needs mucho psychological help. The only thing that makes sense is that he did a lot of PEDs and isn’t secure without them. Oh boy, Cashman is looking good now.

  6. Melkmanisinhotlanta February 21st, 2014 at 3:07 pm

    Mariano should come out of retirement ala Rocky if the NYY make the playoffs. weeeeeeeeee that would be nice!

  7. blake February 21st, 2014 at 3:08 pm

    They will figure the pen out

  8. Melkmanisinhotlanta February 21st, 2014 at 3:10 pm

    Prediction: Krod will come to the pen mid-season.

  9. Patrick February 21st, 2014 at 3:14 pm

    I think the Yankees pen will be fine as is. Really not too worried about it ..

  10. Shame Spencer February 21st, 2014 at 3:22 pm

    @jtomase

    Randy Levine, you have the floor: Larry Lucchino offers his thoughts on Yankees’ approach to team building. http://bostonherald.com/sports.....he_yankees

  11. Jerkface February 21st, 2014 at 3:22 pm

    They will figure the pen out

    Yea but if we say something like ‘they will figure the pen out’ that includes figuring it out by taking starting pitching prospects we like and moving them there ;)

    I agree that in the end the pen will be fine, but some of the solutions will hurt the yankees going forward in other areas.

  12. blake February 21st, 2014 at 3:25 pm

    “I agree that in the end the pen will be fine, but some of the solutions will hurt the yankees going forward in other areas.”

    Maybe….I think J Ram might be destined for there anyway. The guy I really don’t want going there is Banuelos

  13. Patrick February 21st, 2014 at 3:33 pm

    It’s cute that Larry Lucchino is so preoccupied by what the Yankees do

  14. Patrick February 21st, 2014 at 3:35 pm

    with* what the Yankees do.

  15. blake February 21st, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    Boston was right at the luxury tax threshold before Dempster decided to not play…..lucchino is an idiot

  16. kd February 21st, 2014 at 3:52 pm

    lucchino has faced a lot of anti-red sox rhetoric, as they were a high priced team that won the world series. that makes people think of the yankees.

    he’s just trying to make a distinction, which really doesn’t exist. they sign free agents just like everyone else. how quickly he forgets about crawford, agon, etc

    the dodgers did that team a huge favor, they’d be in a lot of trouble without them

  17. RhapsodyInBlue February 21st, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    No one helped them out when they spent 50 million for a phone call to Dice-K.

    The little red engine that could.

  18. pete2 February 21st, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    I still find the Dempster thing fishy. What are the odds he gets paid off the books somehow? Anyways, Lucchino conveniently forgets the Dodgers gift that removed his multi-year deal mistakes off the books. After the 2009-2010 offseasons, he signed 4 players to 4-7 yr deals at a total cost of around 420 million.

  19. hardwired7 February 21st, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    The Yanks are so far inside the heads of the brass and fans of the Red Sox that it’s kind of scary. It’s like everything they do or say somehow has to have a NY tie-in.

    You’ll never be the Yankees, and that’s okay.

    They all need a Stuart Smalley daily affirmation. Repeat after me, Boston: “I’m good enough, I’m smart enough, and doggone it, people like me!”

  20. RadioKev February 21st, 2014 at 4:03 pm

    blake February 21st, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    Boston was right at the luxury tax threshold before Dempster decided to not play…..lucchino is an idiot
    ———–

    He’s a clown that wanted Adrian Gonzalez and Carl Crawford. He wanted superstars. He tried to market Bobby Valentine. Idiot is right.

  21. braeburn February 21st, 2014 at 4:05 pm

    “The Yanks are so far inside the heads of the brass and fans of the Red Sox that it’s kind of scary.”

    well, seeing how in the last ten years the red sox have three world championships and the yankees one, i’d say the only think scary s how bad yankee ownership and management is.

  22. bigdan22 February 21st, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    blake February 21st, 2014 at 3:25 pm

    “Maybe….I think J Ram might be destined for there anyway. The guy I really don’t want going there is Banuelos”

    —–

    Yes. I think a general rule of thumb should be if you pitch better than your stuff, you’re a backend starter (Nuno, Phelps). If you pitch below your stuff, you are a relief pitcher (Ramirez, Betances). And if you pitch right at your stuff, and it’s good, you have a chance to be a front end starter (Banuelos). When he first came up I always felt Joba was a starter. Front end. Soon after he came up I believed Hughes was a relief pitcher. But what do I know.

  23. PhiltheThrill February 21st, 2014 at 4:14 pm

    Let’s choose the last 20 years, then 30 years, then 40 years, then 50 years, then 60 years, then 70, years then 80 years, then 90 years, then 100 years, then 110 years… Yanks have murdered the Sox historically. The past 11 years Selig and the small market teams drew a bullseye on the Yanks and changed all sorts of things to make it harder for them to win, so they’ve only won one more while adjusting to the war against them. BFD. They can coast for awhile.

  24. hardwired7 February 21st, 2014 at 4:17 pm

    And yet they’re still fixated on the Yanks. It’s borderline comical at this point considering their success over the last decade.

  25. Jerkface February 21st, 2014 at 4:20 pm

    Their fans eat it up. It looks sad from our perspective but the Red Sox are the ones raking in cash with their old, broke down stadium and constant team dramas.

  26. Chip February 21st, 2014 at 4:27 pm

    Jerkface February 21st, 2014 at 2:49 pm

    Just looking at the names and I have to wonder why the YAnkees didn’t get 1 veteran guy for the pen this offseason…

    I think Robertson, Claiborne, Thornton, Kelley will be fine. Those guys collectively should be above average. But wouldn’t it be better if there were a Balfour in that mix?
    ——————-

    It would have been nice to get a veteran guy – but at the same time I can understand why a guy like Balfour or Rodney would want to go to a team where they know that from day one they’re going to close rather than come to a team where they’re going to have to compete for the role.

    It’s possible that as Spring Training closes they’ll either see who shakes loose or check in on one of the rehab cases (Bailey, Hanrahan, Madson) or still make a deal for a guy like Putz.

  27. Chip February 21st, 2014 at 4:32 pm

    Oh Larry Larry Larry…

    Yes, the Red Sox built their team differently last year than the Yankees did this year. But this is the same organization – run by the same people – that gave Carl Crawford a butt ton of money; Adrian Gonzalez, Manny Ramirez, etc…

    The notion that they’re some great team created from development is horse poop.

  28. Tackelberry February 21st, 2014 at 4:32 pm

    Mujica would have been the guy to sign. Nice vet arm for pen, and not a guy that had designs on the closers job.

  29. pete2 February 21st, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    ” braeburn February 21st, 2014 at 4:05 pm

    “well, seeing how in the last ten years the red sox have three world championships and the yankees one, i’d say the only think scary s how bad yankee ownership and management is.”

    Winning the World Series once you get to the playoffs is pretty much a roll of the dice. The Red Sox have had far more down years than the Yankees in the past 10 yrs and missed the playoffs 4 years in the past 10. Until winning it last year, they had went almost 5 years without a playoff win.

    Last year was almost entirely a gift from the Dodgers (whose ownership group owes their allegiance to Bud Selig for getting them the Dodgers from McCourt), and incredible luck (almost no significant injuries to regular position players and a team BABIP that is the highest of any team since 1930) .

    The Yankees have held down salaries since winning in 2009. Accounting for payroll inflation they should be around 240 million but are at 2009 levels. The Red Sox are up 30 million and have kept up with payroll inflation. That’s part of it too, that and the farm system (although it was only last year they Yankees system was rated above the Red Sox so that can change quickly).

  30. yankeefeminista February 21st, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    “Maybe….I think J Ram might be destined for there anyway. The guy I really don’t want going there is Banuelos”

    The difference is Manny would only “visit” if he went to the pen. JRam once there will likely never get returned to the SP.This year in the SP is critical for JRam. Both should start in AAA.

  31. blake February 21st, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    Boston payroll was over 150 even last year…..they are a top 5 payroll club very year and before the dodgers came along they were the 2nd highest payroll team. It’s hilarious and very fake the way the talk……they were pushing the luxury tax before Dempster came off

  32. Shame Spencer February 21st, 2014 at 4:37 pm

    Agon was well worth his contract. Still is. Not sure why anyone should kill the Red Sox brass for wanting him. He’s the only reason they got to dump the Crawford deal which was always a mistake.

  33. Shame Spencer February 21st, 2014 at 4:38 pm

    Pretty exciting year for the farm guys.. for a lot of guys this is a huge development year.

  34. blake February 21st, 2014 at 4:42 pm

    Agon was well worth his contract. Still is. Not sure why anyone should kill the Red Sox brass for wanting him. He’s the only reason they got to dump the Crawford deal which was always a mistake.”

    Agon has a combined .805 ops the last 2 seasons…..he’s better than Tex but very similarity he had a great first season after his deal then when downhill big time after it…..I don’t think he’s been worth that deal at all as a 1B……for 23 million a year or whatever he’s makin I want more than a .805 ops at 1b

  35. pete2 February 21st, 2014 at 4:43 pm

    ” hardwired7 February 21st, 2014 at 4:17 pm

    And yet they’re still fixated on the Yanks. It’s borderline comical at this point considering their success over the last decade.”

    This is deception on Luchinos part. The Red Sox have an enormous revenue and payroll advantage over the rest of the AL East and most of the AL, except NY. This kind of talk lets their fans imagine they are the underdogs and pretend that last years championship was due to the Red Sox being able to overpay free agents in terms of AAV if not years. Prospects had little to do with it.

    Also, the red Sox now have a tiered pricing structure, where games against certain teams have higher ticket prices than others. Yankees were announced in the top tier, even before they went on their spending binge and became competitive again, so Lucchino hopes to keep the rivalry alive since it is profitable.

  36. Shame Spencer February 21st, 2014 at 4:48 pm

    The deal was signed when he was 28 or 29? I dunno I think over the next 4 years he’ll still be a pretty good player. Plus it’s not like he is carrying the load in LA. Maybe my perspective is too skewed after the Ellsbury deal.

  37. Jerkface February 21st, 2014 at 4:48 pm

    Gonzalez is very similar to Tex, but he still hits .300/.290. So I wonder what we would prefer. Both guys are really great at fielding, both will get on base around a similar amount, but Tex will hit for more power and Gonzalez will have more reliable average.

  38. Patrick February 21st, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    Pretty exciting year for the farm guys.. for a lot of guys this is a huge development year.

    Yeah I’m really excited to hopefully see a big improvement in the minor league system this year. Most of the high ceiling players are now healthy and the Yankees had a great 2013 draft. We should be seeing a lot of really talented players throughout the system this year.

  39. blake February 21st, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    Id rather have Agon easy for the same money…..he’d hit for more power at YS than in LA

  40. pete2 February 21st, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    Agon reinjured his shoulder in the HR Derby of 2011. He was not the same player since. Crawford was damaged goods from day 1, first due to the wrist that needed surgery, then the elbow. Hard to say what he would have been if healthy. Beckett was also injured when traded, and eventually diagnosed with Thoracic Outlet Syndrome. How the Dodgers accepted all 3 damaged goods, and also gave prospects is either incredibly stupid or it was a deal forced on them by Selig in return for his gift of the Dodgers, to get the Red Sox competitive again.

    Make no mistake, MLB needs both the Red Sox and Yankees competitive and one of them in the World Series each year because ratings are not very good without one of them in there. Arods 1 year suspension was likely a gift to help the Yankees, and Selig actually tried for a lifetime ban but was forced to back down by the MLBPA.

  41. pete2 February 21st, 2014 at 4:56 pm

    ” blake February 21st, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    “Id rather have Agon easy for the same money…..he’d hit for more power at YS than in LA”

    His pulled HR’s are generally bombs and out in most parks. His also has power to LF-CF when healthy, but like I said earlier, he is not the same hitter with the bad shoulder. He still is a good hitter and an RBI machine but he is awfully slow on the bases and clogs them up. Still, as you say, he is probably better than Tex at this point.

  42. HighHeat February 21st, 2014 at 4:57 pm

    Positively Jeterian.

    http://www.nytimes.com/interac.....&_r=1

  43. Shame Spencer February 21st, 2014 at 5:00 pm

    If we’d take it how bad of a deal can it be lol..?

    I’m gonna be rooting hard for Tex this year. Really. But I won’t be surprised if he struggles in 2014.

  44. GregD February 21st, 2014 at 5:02 pm

    has there been a Stephen Drew sighting today????

  45. GregD February 21st, 2014 at 5:03 pm

    I wouldn’t count Tex out………..he is not finished……

  46. blake February 21st, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    I don’t think Twx is finished…..but he’s finished being what they signed him to be sadly

  47. Shame Spencer February 21st, 2014 at 5:07 pm

    :arrow:

  48. GregD February 21st, 2014 at 5:07 pm

    I think it’s hard to predict how his wrist will respond…but I don’t think it’s impossible that he will be a solid run producer….I agree that he probably won’t hit for high average any more……..

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