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Saturday morning notes: Montgomery feeling healthy and focused

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 22, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

New York Yankees' Mark Montgomery in action during a spring training exhibition baseball game against the Detroit Tigers, Saturday, March 2, 2013, in Tampa, Fla. (AP Photo/Matt Slocum)

A year ago, Mark Montgomery reported to his first big league spring training as a relatively high-profile prospect. His bullpen numbers through Double-A had been so overwhelming he was generating Dave Robertson comparisons, and it seemed only a matter of time before Montgomery broke into the big leagues and began working his way through the ranks. It seemed entirely possible that by this point, he’d been in the mix for a late-inning role in New York.

Instead, Montgomery reported to big league camp this spring relatively unnoticed. It’s Preston Claiborne and Dellin Betances who have been assigned lockers with the big leaguers. Montgomery’s spot is still in the middle of the clubhouse with the other minor league guys.

And he’s oddly thankful to be there.

Montgomery“I think I grew up a lot last year, learning that baseball’s not going to be just handed over,” Montgomery said. “You’re not going to be successful 100 percent of the time. I’d done fairly well throughout the minors, and I didn’t have bad numbers in Scranton, but it wasn’t numbers that I was accustomed to. I think it taught me that you’ve got to learn to pitch, you’re not going to blow everything by people. I’m grateful, and I’ve definitely grown up and I think I’ve definitely become a smarter pitcher.”

Dealing with a sore shoulder, Montgomery pitched 40 Triple-A innings last season but spent significant time on the disabled list. He had a 3.38 ERA with 49 strikeouts, but those numbers were nothing compared to the 1.54 ERA, 0.89 WHIP and 13.8 strikeouts-per-nine he’d posted the year before. In retrospect, diminished velocity early in the season — even though he was having tremendous success in the beginning — was a sign of things to come. Roughly a month into the year, Montgomery’s shoulder began to hurt. He would later be diagnosed with bursitis, which basically meant significant inflammation that was impacting everything he threw.

Montgomery, though, felt like the big leagues were only a phone call away, so he tried to pitch through it. The Yankees eventually shut him down as his numbers slipped.

“I’m grateful for what happened,” Montgomery said. “If I went up and wasn’t (fully healthy), I’d be in a lot worse position now than I am. Going up there and not pitching well would have been way worse.”

Today, Montgomery feels strong again. He stayed in Tampa throughout the offseason, changing his workouts to improve flexibility. He’s not as “muscle-bound,” but he still pitches the same way and said he’s felt renewed power through his bullpens.

“I still come in with the same expectations, that I’m here to try to make a spot and here to pitch well,” Montgomery said. “But I think it’s a much better feeling knowing that I’m healthy and all that’s behind me and I can just move forward. … I’m still the same pitcher I was. I think I’m just back to where I was as opposed to having an injury and having that in the back of my head. Hopefully you’re going to see my numbers go back to what I’m used to and how I’m capable of pitching.”

Eduardo Nunez· Eduardo Nunez played in just five winter league games this offseason. He chose instead to focus on training, spending much of his winter with Robinson Cano working on all aspects of the game. The games he did play in the Dominican Winter League were designed to help him practice his timing. He’d been working on not rushing his throws, and he wanted to play in a few games to practice his timing adjustments in a live setting.

· Random clubhouse observation: Dean Anna’s name is printed into the back of his spikes. The left foot says “Anna” but the right says “Dino.” Anna said he’s always gone by Dino. So, in this spring of changing names, feel free to call Dean Anna, “Dino.”

· Speaking of Nunez and Anna, yesterday Joe Girardi made a reference to a game that Derek Jeter plays with the other shortstops during fielding drills. Nunez explained that Jeter keeps track of errors during the drills, except that whenever he makes an error himself, he likes to blame either the coach who’s hitting the fungos or the coach who’s manning first base. He always has an error-free session, while the other guys are subject to his own scrutiny of perfect throws and flawless scoops. It’s all in good fun, the veteran messing with the young guys. “It’s alright,” Nunez said. “Only one more year.”

· Anna’s take on Jeter’s scoring system: “You’ve got to go with it. It’s like, ‘Ok.’ It’s definitely fun, though.”

· We have our first sim game of the spring: David Phelps threw one this morning. He pitched to John Ryan Murphy and faced Mason Williams and Jose Pirela.

· Jorge Posada showed up this morning. He’s in camp as a guest instructor.

· Started raining just a few minutes ago, so the Yankees have moved today’s workout inside. That’s true for the pitchers, anyway. I suppose there’s a chance things will dry up enough for the position players to still get outside and go through some fielding drills. I’ll list everything as it was originally intended. We’ll see whether all of this actually happens.

Vidal Nuno· Early bullpens:
Got these in before the rain
Shane Greene (to Gary Sanchez)
Bryan Mitchell (to Pete O’Brien)
Nik Turley (to Francisco Arcia)
Francisco Rondon (to Austin Romine)
Vidal Nuno (to O’Brien)
Adam Warren (to Murphy)
Preston Claiborne (to Jose Gil)
Dave Robertson (to Francisco Cervelli)

· Live batting practice:
Scheduled to begin at 11:35 a.m.
Field 1
Matt Thornton (to Cervelli)
Shawn Kelley (to McCann)
Matt Daley (to Gil)
Chris Leroux (to Gil)

Field 2
Manny Banuelos (to O’Brien)
Cesar Cabral (to Romine)
Brian Gordon (to Sanchez)
Mark Montgomery (to Arcia)

· Infield drills:
Group 1
Russ Canzler (1B), Corban Joseph (2B/1B), Brian Roberts (2B), Derek Jeter (SS), Scott Sizemore (3B/2B), Dean Anna (3B/2B), Zealous Wheeler (3B)

Group 2
Mark Teixiera (1B), Jose Pirela (2B/3B), Yangervis Solarte (2B/SS), Brendan Ryan (SS), Eduardo Nunez (3B/SS), Kelly Johnson (3B)

· Batting practice groups:
Most of the catchers have moved to new groups
Group 1: Derek Jeter, Eduardo Nunez, Brian Roberts, Jose Gil
Group 2: Kelly Johnson, Brendan Ryan, Mark Teixeira, Francisco Cervelli
Group 3: Dean Anna, Russ Canzler, Scott Sizemore, Brian McCann
Group 4: Corban Joseph, Yangervis Solarte, Zealous Wheeler, John Ryan Murphy
Group 5: Carlos Beltran, Jacoby Ellsbury, Ichiro Suzuki, Gary Sanchez
Group 6: Zoilo Almonte, Brett Gardner, Alfonso Soriano, Pete O’Brien
Group 7: Tyler Austin, Antoan Richardson, Mason Williams, Austin Romine
Group 8: Ramon Flores, Adonis Garcia, Jose Pirela, Francisco Arcia

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170 Responses to “Saturday morning notes: Montgomery feeling healthy and focused”

  1. blake February 22nd, 2014 at 11:01 am

    If they could have traded Gardner for something and could have gotten Cruz for 1/8 then that would have been cool

  2. Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 11:02 am

    Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 11:01 am

    I would have liked to have them both for that money!

    —————–

    I concur!!!

    Radio – For me, PEDs aren’t a factor I’m considering. I dunno if Beltran uses or has used (two years ago this blog hated me and blake for pining for him because his knees were ‘done’). I’m just looking at baseline expected production and total dollars. I really don’t like the Beltran and Ellsbury deals from this winter, but it is what it is. I hope they’re worth their contracts.

  3. DONNYBROOK February 22nd, 2014 at 11:03 am

    - CHAD -

    Thanks for giving us a general run-down on what is going on. This “stuff” is not available elsewhere, and gives us a sense of the general atmosphere there.

  4. Blojaldo February 22nd, 2014 at 11:04 am

    PED’s and the draft pick compensation hurt Cruz. I believe the Orioles only had to give up a second round pick if I am not mistaken.

  5. RadioKev February 22nd, 2014 at 11:04 am

    Radio – For me, PEDs aren’t a factor I’m considering. I dunno if Beltran uses or has used (two years ago this blog hated me and blake for pining for him because his knees were ‘done’). I’m just looking at baseline expected production and total dollars. I really don’t like the Beltran and Ellsbury deals from this winter, but it is what it is. I hope they’re worth their contracts.
    ————–

    Well, Beltran hasn’t been caught anyway :)

    I didn’t expect him to be that good with the Cardinals. I was wrong there. I just like his skills more than Cruz’s, still.

    But yeah, they’re not great value deals. Tanaka/McCann are better deals.

  6. Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 11:04 am

    The Beltran deal in this context is a perfect example of why crying over the ‘value’ of Drew is ridiculous. I’m not even an Drew advocate but when you’re spending $15 million a year KNOWING you’re going to get the worst years Beltran will ever deliver any type of dollar/production value structure of evaluating deals isn’t worth your time.

  7. Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 11:06 am

    Blojaldo February 22nd, 2014 at 11:04 am

    PED’s and the draft pick compensation hurt Cruz. I believe the Orioles only had to give up a second round pick if I am not mistaken.

    ————

    Didn’t hurt Peralta though. If Cruz wasn’t an OFer he would have gotten a better deal.

    BTW, people complaining about letting ‘professional’ athletes compete in the Olympics should look no further than the US hockey team for why it’s irrelevant.

  8. Against All Odds February 22nd, 2014 at 11:06 am

    there are a lot of peeps here who all they talk about is Cano….he’s gone let it go

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    You can thank Long for opening the can of worms again.

  9. Blojaldo February 22nd, 2014 at 11:06 am

    Jones, Davis and Cruz. Ouch!

  10. DONNYBROOK February 22nd, 2014 at 11:07 am

    I would advise Montgomery to get ahold of Dr Dizzy and select some pants with more room in the crotch. With that stride of his, something has gotta give.

  11. Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 11:07 am

    I didn’t expect him to be that good with the Cardinals. I was wrong there. I just like his skills more than Cruz’s, still.

    ——————

    I don’t disagree. I like Beltran a lot. I’ve wanted him to be a Yankee for a long, long time. I’m just debating the strategic pros/cons of that deal. I don’t know why they gave him 3 years. If the answer was they couldn’t get him without adding the extra year, they should have let him go.. again.

  12. joeman February 22nd, 2014 at 11:08 am

    Tar February 22nd, 2014 at 11:05 am
    “there are a lot of peeps here who all they talk about is Cano….he’s gone let it go”

    How about we all discuss what ever the hell we want. Feel free to cruise on by if it doesn’t float your boat.
    ———————————————–
    look to the future ..not the past

  13. Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 11:09 am

    I saw fem updated us last night on Luis. Keep them coming whenever possible and everyone read this:

    @Ken_Rosenthal Must-read: @jonmorosi: Fear in MLB clubhouses this spring, as Venezuelans observe violence at home from distance. http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....ers-022214

  14. RadioKev February 22nd, 2014 at 11:10 am

    I’m still kind of surprised by how massive Monty’s legs are. Guess that’s where the power comes from.

  15. joeman February 22nd, 2014 at 11:10 am

    mind on task

  16. DONNYBROOK February 22nd, 2014 at 11:11 am

    Beltran is a Pro. He’s going to pepper that porch, and also garner a lot of walks due to pitchers fearing the same. Whoever bats behind Beltran will greatly profit from this. I would look at Tex for that hole.

  17. blake February 22nd, 2014 at 11:11 am

    Fallon and JTs history of rap thing was pretty awesome

  18. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 11:12 am

    “BTW, people complaining about letting ‘professional’ athletes compete in the Olympics should look no further than the US hockey team for why it’s irrelevant.”

    This made me laugh, but not in a nasty way. Of course I feel bad for team USA.

    What I know about hockey is that I’m watching it, but I heard the commentators say that it’s unfortunate for team USA that Rask (sp?) is in goal for Finland. (paraphrase)

  19. DONNYBROOK February 22nd, 2014 at 11:13 am

    I Much prefer Kimmel. Fallon has Never done anything for me.

  20. joeman February 22nd, 2014 at 11:14 am

    blake February 22nd, 2014 at 11:01 am
    If they could have traded Gardner for something and could have gotten Cruz for 1/8 then that would have been cool
    ———————————————-
    yep….I do believe they tried to trade Gardner but with his pending FA no takers

  21. joeman February 22nd, 2014 at 11:14 am

    but we have Ells ..right Blake

  22. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 11:14 am

    Shame, do you think it’s possible that some of the wind is out of their sails and that could be affecting their play? Just a question.

  23. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 11:17 am

    “I Much prefer Kimmel. Fallon has Never done anything for me.”

    Agree. When I think of Tonight Show hosts, Fallon is way out of his league. Unless he just has a huge cult following, I can’t imagine him getting higher ratings than Letterman.

  24. joeman February 22nd, 2014 at 11:17 am

    trisha…50 and sun here today in CT….that’s what I’m talking about

  25. Blojaldo February 22nd, 2014 at 11:19 am

    Allowing pros in the Olympics mystifies me as it seems to dilute the original intent which was amateur competition. There are many college hockey and basketball players that are denied the chance to be Olympians. The “Miracle on Ice” IMO was so special because they were amateurs. And allowing NBA superstars to compete in the summer games is just a farce.

  26. RhapsodyInBlue February 22nd, 2014 at 11:19 am

    Kimmel, Fallon.

    Wish I stay awake that late.

  27. blake February 22nd, 2014 at 11:20 am

    Fallon is really talented….but he’s not really like stand up comedy funny to me….his acts are funny but mostly it’s usually about him doing something that’s just entertaining but has a funny twist. I think he will be fine on the tonight show…..but he’s different than Leno….I think interviewing people might be hard for him at first

  28. Against All Odds February 22nd, 2014 at 11:20 am

    You’re kidding right Mac? No bad mouthing of Cano…. I sure hope that was a joke.
    —————–

    When it comes to fans criticizing Cano. You have the ppl that didn’t want to sign him for the money/a number of yrs. I understand that and it’s a reasonable stance. Those ppl don’t hate Cano they’re just expressing an opinion. Then you have fans that are viscous saying things like “he’s a bum, loser, thug, I hope he gets injured, he was a C in the locker room, etc” But yet if something bad happened to Cano these same fans would turn around with crocodile tears crying and sending well wishes. He doesn’t ppl being fake and wishing him well. GTFOH

  29. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 11:21 am

    The thing I liked about previous Tonight Show hosts is that none of them tried to “outshowcase” their guests. Fallon seems to like to be in the thick of the action, whether with his guitar, his skits, etc. It’s like he’s still on SNL.

  30. RhapsodyInBlue February 22nd, 2014 at 11:21 am

    Beltran has been a winner wherever, just hope he still has gas in the tank and that he can remain healthy.

    He can and will hit in the clutch.

  31. blake February 22nd, 2014 at 11:22 am

    When Seinfeld was on mike and Mike the other day they asked him why he never tried to host a show like that…..his answer was pretty classic Seinfeld……he said the reason he couldn’t do it was simply because he can’t do things he’s not interested in…..he said he wouldn’t be able to interview just these random people unless he was interested in them……

  32. Blojaldo February 22nd, 2014 at 11:22 am

    I like Kimmel, but IMO Fallon is much more talented and has more going for him. He is good looking, youthful, his likability factor is through the roof, he is a fantastic impressionist, a good singer, dancer and musician, he is very creative, funny and has stellar relationship throughout the entertainment community. He’s going to kill it.

  33. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 11:23 am

    “trisha…50 and sun here today in CT….that’s what I’m talking about”

    We have the same! Tomorrow promises to be much like it. And then I heard about the possibility of serious snow on Wednesday. Our temps are dipping to the 30s on Monday…

  34. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 11:27 am

    As much as I love jmills, I will definitely be rooting for Sveden in the gold medal game. I didn’t even know they played hockey.

  35. Can of Corn February 22nd, 2014 at 11:28 am

    Love the info about ‘Dino Anna’ and his shoes …….. thanks Chad !

  36. DONNYBROOK February 22nd, 2014 at 11:30 am

    Fallon is a Martin Short knock-off, and I didn’t care for Short either. These types are good for supporting roles in flicks, but a daily dose is an O.D. for me. Anybody that can work with Ben Stein is A-OK in my book. Kimmel reminds me of a talk show version of Tom Hanks. Just a Regular Joe, doing very good work, day-in-day-out.

  37. Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 11:30 am

    No one in here has seen a fully amateur Olympics, that’s a myth. They point to a charter of the IOC changed in the 1980s, but people forget that Miracle on Ice wasn’t special because they didn’t let professionals play – it was special because the Russian team was essentially full of professional hockey players.

    trisha – They didn’t play well against Canada at all, either, so I don’t think that’s totally to blame.

  38. Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 11:33 am

    And allowing NBA superstars to compete in the summer games is just a farce.

    —————–

    What allowing NBA players does is raise the profile of the sport in other countries. It helps get money into foreign basketball programs and provides more talent pools for the NBA. One hand washes the other. It’s fun to watch other countries try to develop talent. I’m pretty excited at the prospect of the NPB players possibly being allowed to participate in the Olympics in a couple of years if the vote for including baseball again is passed.

  39. Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 11:35 am

    Bob Costas wrote an article discussing how having baseball in the Winter Olympics could be a good compromise. I brought this up here years ago – not that it was an original thought, but it’s cool hearing a guy as respected in the sports world as Costas thinks it’s worth considering.

  40. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 11:36 am

    I feel the same way about Kimmel. And that’s how Johnny Carson was. Totally understated, very funny. I’m pretty sure that the reason Letterman was never tapped for the Tonight Show job is because of his biting sarcasm. I personally love Letterman (lost a little of the love when he came out as a serial cheater because I had him on somewhat of a pedestal), but I can understand that he isn’t what NBC wanted. The Tonight Show has always represented more of the apple pie American image.

  41. Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 11:36 am

    Also, consider the parity in most of the major sports leagues right now… it’s because there’s not enough high end talent. (Legitimate) International competitions are ways to cultivate talent. The WBC is not a real one.

  42. blake February 22nd, 2014 at 11:36 am

    “Bob Costas wrote an article discussing how having baseball in the Winter Olympics could be a good compromise. I brought this up here years ago – not that it was an original thought, but it’s cool hearing a guy as respected in the sports world as Costas thinks it’s worth considering.”

    If Tex competes and gets hurts do we have to pay him?

  43. Blojaldo February 22nd, 2014 at 11:36 am

    Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 11:30 am
    No one in here has seen a fully amateur Olympics, that’s a myth. They point to a charter of the IOC changed in the 1980s, but people forget that Miracle on Ice wasn’t special because they didn’t let professionals play – it was special because the Russian team was essentially full of professional hockey players.
    _________________

    If the US team was comprised of NHL players it wouldn’t have been as memorable as it was. I think it was also special because of the cold war.

  44. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 11:38 am

    “…but it’s cool hearing a guy as respected in the sports world as Costas thinks it’s worth considering.”

    I love Costas, but baseball is his passion so I’m not surprised he’d come out in favor of it. It’s hard to think of him as totally neutral in this hunt, IMO anyway.

  45. Hankflorida February 22nd, 2014 at 11:39 am

    KevinOsborne February 22nd, 2014 at 2:01 am
    Hank, Ernie Lombardi made Jesus Montero look like Carl Lewis. That isn’t easy.

    I really laughed when I read your blog. No one in the history of the world was as slow as NY Giant catcher Ernie Lombardi. Not only was he thrown at first on a singe to right, but hitting the wall in left field at the Polo Grounds was only one base for him. A double would be where Willie Mays made that sensational catch off Vic Wertz in the WS. Lombardi was a good hitter, called a good game and could throw out base runners trying to steal. No one ever accussed him of dogging it. Babe Ruth was an excellent base runner, DiMag had those long strides that got him down the line, Before he got hurt, Mantle could give Ellsbury a run for his money and Lou Gehrig was slow footed but not like Lombardi as he would make Cano jogging look like Carl Lewis.

  46. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 11:39 am

    I still think the Olympic should have stayed the course with amateur athletes, since that’s what it primarily stands for. Not into this pro stuff at all.

    By the way, what’s with NBC and the commentators from England? They can’t get enough from America?

  47. Tar February 22nd, 2014 at 11:41 am

    AAO

    Exactly. I have no problem with people not wanting to sign him for 10, or even not liking the lack of running hard to first.

    It’s the “he’s a dog, sucks, lazy, thug,” crap that is not only not necessary, but not true either.

    For me…. I would take 9 players who didn’t run hard to first….. if they could hit and field like Cano does.

    I will say it one last time…. as Yankee fans we are lucky he is not on an AL East team.

  48. Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 11:41 am

    If Tex competes and gets hurts do we have to pay him?

    —————-

    Insurance. :twisted:

  49. Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 11:42 am

    If the US team was comprised of NHL players it wouldn’t have been as memorable as it was. I think it was also special because of the cold war.

    ————-

    Right but see how we can’t win with our NHLers…? It would still be a HUGE deal for US hockey if they won the gold. When I think of the Olympics, I think of the best athletes in the world, period.

    There are no amateurs and it hasn’t been that way for quite some time.

  50. Ys Guy February 22nd, 2014 at 11:43 am

    Now I’m starting to worry about the Orioles. Their core is ready to go, their window is about this year and the next 1 or 2, and they mysteriously stood pat all winter.

    Now with the signing of Ubaldo and apparently Cruz, they have jumped in and grabbed some bargains that will help them out alot.

  51. Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 11:44 am

    trisha – true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 11:38 am

    “…but it’s cool hearing a guy as respected in the sports world as Costas thinks it’s worth considering.”

    I love Costas, but baseball is his passion so I’m not surprised he’d come out in favor of it. It’s hard to think of him as totally neutral in this hunt, IMO anyway.

    ————-

    Well yeah, of course he loves baseball.. who amongst those that love baseball wouldn’t love to see it featured in a legitimate international competition as prestigious as the Olympics? It’s literally the pinnacle of competition.

  52. blake February 22nd, 2014 at 11:45 am

    “Now I’m starting to worry about the Orioles. Their core is ready to go, their window is about this year and the next 1 or 2, and they mysteriously stood pat all winter.”

    I think their rotation still is about the 4th best in the division and think that’s where they are right now …..like their offense though

  53. Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 11:46 am

    If the O’s fall off for whatever reason I wonder if they move to trade Hardy. Another dog fight in the AL East this year. Only team I have no concerns about are the Jays lol.

  54. DONNYBROOK February 22nd, 2014 at 11:46 am

    Well 1st off the Olympics booted Baseball, yet they stick with a lot of the other BS Events. Once we allowed the Dream Team and the stuff that followed the bloom was off the rose. I always enjoyed our college basketballers taking on the Russians and the official hijinks that ensued. That was challenging and entertaining. This stuff now is snooze material. And somebody needs to tell Costas to back off the hair dye.

  55. Ys Guy February 22nd, 2014 at 11:46 am

    ““he’s a dog, sucks, lazy, thug,” ….first time i’ve heard anybody say anything like that.

    Long said he was great play and an increadibly hard worker who had a bad habit of not running out grounders.

    Long’s statement was factual and complimentary except for the unfortunate fact that Cano wouldnt run out grounders no matter who nudged him toward doing it.

  56. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 11:48 am

    “There are no amateurs and it hasn’t been that way for quite some time.”

    You keep saying this. So why don’t you go into detail. Except for hockey, I don’t remember seeing other pros in any of the competitions.

  57. Ys Guy February 22nd, 2014 at 11:49 am

    when the pros took over the olympics, i stopped watching.

    I dont like hockey but if i did i’d just watch the NHL playoffs. I like the NBA but the olympics is not even close to that, the tennis is just another tournament on the schedule every 4 years. Olympic baseball wasnt even as good as the WBC.

  58. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 11:50 am

    “Well yeah, of course he loves baseball.. who amongst those that love baseball wouldn’t love to see it featured in a legitimate international competition as prestigious as the Olympics? It’s literally the pinnacle of competition.”

    It’s called the Baseball Classic. I don’t think the Olympics need to be bas*ardized any more than they have been.

  59. tbone1570 February 22nd, 2014 at 11:52 am

    Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 11:35 am

    Bob Costas wrote an article discussing how having baseball in the Winter Olympics could be a good compromise.

    *******************************
    Shame,

    Do you have a link to the article?

  60. DONNYBROOK February 22nd, 2014 at 11:52 am

    I used to enjoy the judges scoring being 2nd guessed 6 ways to Sunday. These “vanilla” announcers they got going now are afraid of their own shadow. Cosell would have a cow.

  61. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 11:54 am

    :(

  62. tomingeorgia February 22nd, 2014 at 11:54 am

    trisha,
    On the USA team, anybody who wins a gold medal gets $50K. That’s by definition professional sports. I don’t know who pays the lady biathlon team, but somebody does.

  63. Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 11:56 am

    You keep saying this. So why don’t you go into detail. Except for hockey, I don’t remember seeing other pros in any of the competitions.

    —————————-

    Well most of the sports don’t have an equivalent ‘major leagues’. Ice skaters..? Skiers? Snowboarders? Yeah, they’re not professional athletes under the umbrella of a professional union. But they’re all sponsored by corporations or other sorts of monetary sponsors. Amateur athletes by definition would have another job besides their sport. Pretty much none of the athletes your watching in this Winter Olympics would fall into that category. These are people that have their job be their sport all year round, for years before reaching the ultimate competition: the Olympics.

    Why people want to see not-as-good people compete is beyond me. It reminds me of when people say they like college football or college basketball better than the NFL or NBA. Oh so you like seeing a 30% shot rate? Fine. Have fun with that, I’d rather watch guys that are good.

  64. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 11:57 am

    tom – it is not. There’s a huge difference between getting $50k for getting a medal (which I did not know) and drawing a salary for your profession.

  65. Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 11:58 am

    It’s called the Baseball Classic.

    ————-

    Which is run and controlled and (this is very important) only profits MLB. It also has most of the games take place in the USA. It doesn’t promote baseball in other countries where it doesn’t have funding at all. It’s a toothless competition that was designed as another MLB revenue stream.

    The NPB being in the Olympics would be a huge get for the Japan games.

  66. Doreen February 22nd, 2014 at 12:00 pm

    If curling is an Olympic sport, there is no really good reason why baseball is not.

    Curling feels like darts or bocce or some other game. Not a sport. and every single time I turned on the Olympics this year, it was curling. I am confounded as to how it got so much airtime. Really confounded.

  67. Against All Odds February 22nd, 2014 at 12:01 pm

    Tar February 22nd, 2014 at 11:41 am
    AAO

    Exactly. I have no problem with people not wanting to sign him for 10, or even not liking the lack of running hard to first.

    It’s the “he’s a dog, sucks, lazy, thug,” crap that is not only not necessary, but not true either.

    For me…. I would take 9 players who didn’t run hard to first….. if they could hit and field like Cano does.

    I will say it one last time…. as Yankee fans we are lucky he is not on an AL East team.

    ———————-

    Very well said Tar. We all know he didn’t bust it every time. It doesn’t minimize what he did. Hell even his biggest supporters mentioned it but we can do w/o the other stuff. Even though some fans would like to believe those things haven’t be said or don’t exist.

    Like the fan that tweeted Cano saying I hope you get ALS.

    smh

  68. Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 12:01 pm

    tbone – Ha! Here is the link, but it showed up in my feed as a part of another tweet: http://online.wsj.com/news/art.....0235214038

    Written by BRIAN Costas (who I will now pretend is Bob Costas’ twin brother, with a still significant opinion on the matter). ;)

  69. DONNYBROOK February 22nd, 2014 at 12:02 pm

    When I hear of someone from the US coming back for their 3rd Olympics, THAT’S A PRO.

  70. Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 12:03 pm

    Curling feels like darts or bocce or some other game. Not a sport. and every single time I turned on the Olympics this year, it was curling. I am confounded as to how it got so much airtime. Really confounded.

    —————

    Do not underestimate how much people love shuffleboard. I was on a cruise once that had it… pretty much played it every day, as often as possible. It’s like watching a metronome. I can’t take my eyes off it.

  71. Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 12:05 pm

    Ys Guy February 22nd, 2014 at 11:49 am

    when the pros took over the olympics, i stopped watching.

    I dont like hockey but if i did i’d just watch the NHL playoffs. I like the NBA but the olympics is not even close to that, the tennis is just another tournament on the schedule every 4 years. Olympic baseball wasnt even as good as the WBC.

    —————————

    Your first point and last point are pretty amusing… you think the fact that they didn’t let pros compete had anything to do with why Olympic baseball was so crappy…..?? No?

  72. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 12:06 pm

    “Amateur athletes by definition would have another job besides their sport.”

    That’s bull. The “kids” go to school and practice their sport early in the morning and late into the evening. And some of the older “kids”, like Noelle Pikus-Pace, are full-time mothers
    who take their families with them to their amateur competitions. And I’m sure that some of the athletes work as well as train – just not as professionals in their sports.

    Skaters become pro when they go into things like Stars on Ice and draw a salary for it. They can’t compete in the Olympics after that.

    “Why people want to see not-as-good people compete is beyond me”

    And people like you don’t watch it. Simple. The rest of us are thrilled to see people who love their sport and have put in countless hours throughout their lives compete in the Olympics. For them that is the pinnacle. And I’d love to see anyone say that Sonya Henie was “not-as-good”.

    Before professional hockey infiltrated the Olympics, they were still widely watched every 4 years.

  73. tomingeorgia February 22nd, 2014 at 12:07 pm

    Shame,
    I very much prefer college football and basketball to their pro counterparts. Even if it’s only to gain a pro job, most collegians go all out. Much more exciting to watch for me. Guys who already have their millions mostly don’t. Exceptions in the pros abound, to be sure, but the college games are more fun. Baseball is the exception.

  74. tomingeorgia February 22nd, 2014 at 12:08 pm

    I wish Olympic hockey had a mercy rule.

  75. Against All Odds February 22nd, 2014 at 12:09 pm

    Why people want to see not-as-good people compete is beyond me.

    ———————————–

    Because they feel closer to the amateurs than the pros. The young scrappy amateurs that are not tainted by the big bad sports world lol.

  76. Blojaldo February 22nd, 2014 at 12:09 pm

    Americans denigrate sports like soccer, curling and that for whatever reason we can’t relate to. Soccer is a good example and we are in the minority, a very small minority, in not appreciating it as the world’s greatest sport which most people see it as.

  77. Doreen February 22nd, 2014 at 12:10 pm

    Shame -

    Shuffleboard as an Olympic sport…age limit?? LOL

  78. Tar February 22nd, 2014 at 12:10 pm

    I really don’t have a problem either way Pro or Amateur.

    It’s when its Pro VS Amateur… thats when I have a problem.

  79. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 12:11 pm

    “If curling is an Olympic sport, there is no really good reason why baseball is not.”

    What does one have to do with the other? We’re talking professional vs. amateur. If people are saying that they want baseball in the Olympics so that college kids can compete against each other, that’s entirely different.

  80. Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 12:11 pm

    Skaters become pro when they go into things like Stars on Ice and draw a salary for it. They can’t compete in the Olympics after that.

    ——————–

    How do you think these athletes pay for years of training exactly? The reason amateurism was abolished was because it was unfair to those without money to support their careers. That’s what these individuals are: career athletes. If you can find people that are truly amateurs please do and come back to me with that info.

    This whole ‘don’t watch’ thing is more applicable to people that want to see amateurs play, since those individuals aren’t competing.

    You’re equating professionalism with a lack of love for a sport.. these aren’t walk-ons. These are career ice skaters, skiers, snowboarders, hockey players, etc.

  81. tbone1570 February 22nd, 2014 at 12:11 pm

    Thanks Shame!

    Interesting the hockey started out in the summer Olympics.

  82. Against All Odds February 22nd, 2014 at 12:12 pm

    Even if it’s only to gain a pro job, most collegians go all out. Much more exciting to watch for me. Guys who already have their millions mostly don’t

    —————————-

    They mostly do. You can’t stay at that pro level w/o going all out. In college to gap in talent/skill isn’t that big.

  83. Blojaldo February 22nd, 2014 at 12:12 pm

    What joy is there seeing an NBA dream team of pros destroy Nigeria 156-73? Is that sport in the Olympic tradition?

  84. Doreen February 22nd, 2014 at 12:12 pm

    I don’t denigrate soccer. I just don’t find curling compelling. I also don’t find the biathlon compelling, though I can appreciate it.

    I try to find things to appreciate even in something that I don’t especially like, but curling just loses me.

  85. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 12:13 pm

    Leave it to people in the land of milk and honey to want to remove any purity there is left from anything in life so they can “enjoy” their sports. Hey I have a great idea. Let’s get steroids into the Olympics. Then you’ll really see the best compete against each other.

    SMH

  86. DONNYBROOK February 22nd, 2014 at 12:13 pm

    The appeal is Not just watching US amateurs, it’s watching US Amateurs take down Foreign Pro athletes. That’s the appeal/challenge.

  87. tbone1570 February 22nd, 2014 at 12:13 pm

    tomingeorgia February 22nd, 2014 at 12:08 pm

    I wish Olympic hockey had a mercy rule.

    *******************

    There is no mercy in Hockey! ;)

  88. Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 12:15 pm

    People also forget that the university/college structure in other countries does not mirror the USA. You can’t just find college players across the world in various sports. Only in the US is education such a business.

  89. Blojaldo February 22nd, 2014 at 12:15 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 12:13 pm
    Leave it to people in the land of milk and honey to want to remove any purity there is left from anything in life so they can “enjoy” their sports. Hey I have a great idea. Let’s get steroids into the Olympics. Then you’ll really see the best compete against each other.
    ____________

    Don’t think that there aren’t some here that would fully support allowing steroids in the Olympics. :)

  90. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 12:16 pm

    “What joy is there seeing an NBA dream team of pros destroy Nigeria 156-73? Is that sport in the Olympic tradition?”

    Horrid. And anyone with half a heart wouldn’t be able to enjoy watching that.

    Obviously not everyone cares about the Olympic tradition. Hopefully the Olympic Committee puts the skids on any further departures from the very definition of the Olympics.

  91. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 12:17 pm

    “Don’t think that there aren’t some here that would fully support allowing steroids in the Olympics. :)

    Without a question.

  92. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 12:20 pm

    I wonder if the US beating Russia had the same effect as the Yanks beating the Sux in the 2003 ALCS? Could there have been a major letdown?

    Just a thought.

  93. Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 12:20 pm

    I think it’s pretty fun when a team like the US Basketball teams loses… do you know how good that feels for other countries?? That’s what gets money into programs like the Argentinian program that beat us in 2004. It was GREAT for the sport there. Can’t just look at this from a USA-centric perspective.

  94. Blojaldo February 22nd, 2014 at 12:21 pm

    Well, without fully opening up the NCAA can of worms, there has been an ongoing debate about paying college-athletes. I for one love that college sports is played by amateurs, or as close to amateur as they can be. I hope they never stray from that.

  95. tomingeorgia February 22nd, 2014 at 12:22 pm

    Every college team above division2 is composed of pros earning between twenty and fifty Gs in kind, as in a full scholarship.

  96. Ys Guy February 22nd, 2014 at 12:22 pm

    sportsmanship is completely lost on the olympics and has been replaced by nationalism, promotion and ratings.

    I’ll pass.

  97. Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 12:22 pm

    This is a good article from the times about amateurs in the Olympics: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08.....ecsey.html

  98. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 12:23 pm

    “How do you think these athletes pay for years of training exactly? The reason amateurism was abolished was because it was unfair to those without money to support their careers. That’s what these individuals are: career athletes. If you can find people that are truly amateurs please do and come back to me with that info.”

    They are not making money off it. Good try though.

  99. Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 12:25 pm

    Yes, imagine replacing something like sportsmanship with nationalism lol.. a tragedy, no doubt.

    If people think anyone goes to these games not wanting to win, they’re crazy. You can’t do anything about the TV factor. It’s the same in every major league sport in the US, including college sports. In fact, the college sports business structure is one of the most depressing things to study.

  100. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 12:27 pm

    LMAO at how a few of you are redefining everything in order to try to make a case for getting professional baseball into the Olympics. So sponsors helping athletes be able to afford their sport and college scholarships are being equated with being paid salaries as full-time professionals?

    Wow.

    At least have enough integrity to just come out and say you don’t give a rat about the definition of the Olympics and that you want MLB in there!

  101. Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 12:28 pm

    They are not making money off it. Good try though.

    —————

    I’ve already addressed this… they don’t have the equivalent of ‘major leagues’ in these sports. You don’t really seem to understand a lot about this. These people are paid, and paid well, to dedicate themselves to their sport. That, in my mind, makes them a professional.

    You can look up the importance of sponsorships and the reasoning behind IOC allowing them, since you don’t seem to believe me. But I’d also like you to find me some true amateur athletes. As tom points out, should we consider college students amateurs when they are very much being compensation for their service in the form of scholarships..?

  102. Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2014 at 12:28 pm

    You’re taking an extreme stance as usual.

    I’m out for the day, enjoy.

  103. Blojaldo February 22nd, 2014 at 12:29 pm

    tomingeorgia February 22nd, 2014 at 12:22 pm
    Every college team above division2 is composed of pros earning between twenty and fifty Gs in kind, as in a full scholarship.
    ________________

    I wouldn’t call someone who receives a scholarship to go to college a pro. Not only athletes get that benefit. Some get it due to artistic ability, academic excellence and even financial need.

  104. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 12:33 pm

    “I really don’t have a problem either way Pro or Amateur.

    It’s when its Pro VS Amateur… thats when I have a problem.”

    At least that.

  105. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 12:35 pm

    “You’re taking an extreme stance as usual.

    I’m out for the day, enjoy.”

    An extreme stance. Wanting to see things done according to what they are supposed to represent.

    :lol:

  106. Ys Guy February 22nd, 2014 at 12:40 pm

    MLB players in the Olympics would be terrible. Whether it’s in the Winter Games in the offseason (and thus nobody is in top form) or in the summer (and MLB takes a break to accomodate) it, it would be terrible.

  107. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 12:41 pm

    “I’ve already addressed this… they don’t have the equivalent of ‘major leagues’ in these sports. You don’t really seem to understand a lot about this. These people are paid, and paid well, to dedicate themselves to their sport. That, in my mind, makes them a professional.”

    I’m thinking that it is unequivocally you who does not have the understanding. You show me what Olympians, besides the hockey players, are “paid and paid well” to dedicate themselves to their sport. Your say so doesn’t take the day. I think you hit it on the head when you said “that, in my mind, makes them a professional.” This is all in your mind. However, not in reality.

  108. raymagnetic February 22nd, 2014 at 12:41 pm

    “I’m not even an Drew advocate but when you’re spending $15 million a year KNOWING you’re going to get the worst years Beltran will ever deliver any type of dollar/production value”

    You know this or you assume this?? Beltran played a total of 145 games when he was 32/33. How much value did the Mets get out of him those two years???

  109. DONNYBROOK February 22nd, 2014 at 12:42 pm

    I complained about BASEBALL being kicked out of the Olympics. I have No desire to see MLB athletes in the Olympics.

  110. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 12:42 pm

    Ys Guy – hopefully it never happens. I have to believe that the Olympic Committee well understands that it is will be seen as nothing more than a joke if it allows any more professional infiltration.

  111. Tar February 22nd, 2014 at 12:43 pm

    “You show me what Olympians, besides the hockey players, are “paid and paid well” to dedicate themselves to their sport. ”

    2 second google search.

    http://www.businessinsider.com.....aid-2012-7

  112. DONNYBROOK February 22nd, 2014 at 12:44 pm

    The last couple of years, Beltran has struggled after the All Star Break. Yanks need to get what they can out of Beltran prior to The Break, and then let Girardi do his Thing with Resting everybody and his brother down the stretch.

  113. Tar February 22nd, 2014 at 12:46 pm

    “But being an Olympic athlete with a medal is a different story: Many countries pay their competitors upwards of six-figure bonuses for bringing home the gold. Some countries like Kazakhstan pay their gold medalists $250,000. Other countries like Malaysia, which hasn’t seen a gold medal come home since 1956, guarantee their athletes a solid gold bar worth $600,000. ”

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/.....25947.html

  114. raymagnetic February 22nd, 2014 at 12:46 pm

    Equating college athletes with pros is silly. 98 percent of college athletes do not go to professional leagues after graduating.

  115. Tar February 22nd, 2014 at 12:49 pm

    “Equating college athletes with pros is silly. 98 percent of college athletes do not go to professional leagues after graduating.”

    I’m curious as to what the % of minor leaguer’s who make it to the MLB is?

  116. raymagnetic February 22nd, 2014 at 12:51 pm

    According to that article they’re only paid well when they win a gold medal. The vast majority of them win nothing. Where’s the lucrative salary coming from??

    Malaysia hasn’t paid anything since 56. Nearly 60 years. C’mon now.

  117. Revenge of Stoneburner February 22nd, 2014 at 12:52 pm

    surprise surprise – Yanks do not have a top 30 SS prospect below according to BA:

    http://www.baseballamerica.com.....hortstops/

  118. Revenge of Stoneburner February 22nd, 2014 at 12:53 pm

    Will the Yanks regret not trying to trade Gardner for a Devon Travis??

  119. raymagnetic February 22nd, 2014 at 12:54 pm

    “I’m curious as to what the % of minor leaguer’s who make it to the MLB is?”

    10 percent.

  120. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 12:57 pm

    “Many countries pay their competitors upwards of six-figure bonuses for bringing home the gold.”

    Which of course differs greatly from getting paid an annual salary to participate in a profession.

  121. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 12:57 pm

    “According to that article they’re only paid well when they win a gold medal. The vast majority of them win nothing. Where’s the lucrative salary coming from??

    Malaysia hasn’t paid anything since 56. Nearly 60 years. C’mon now.”

    Thank you!

  122. Revenge of Stoneburner February 22nd, 2014 at 12:58 pm

    Yanks at least do place a 1b prospect in the top 30 according to BA:

    http://www.baseballamerica.com.....t-basemen/

  123. Revenge of Stoneburner February 22nd, 2014 at 1:00 pm

    Aaron Fitt ?@aaronfitt Feb 20
    One agent: “As of today, Phillies are out. Phillies are not getting into any more of our households. We’re shutting down all communications”

    This needs to happen. Call it Cliff Lee karma (same with the Mariners)

  124. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 1:00 pm

    “However, there is a catch with this money — you only get it if you are famous and/or win. Most athletes aren’t. There are approximately 15,000 athletes competing in 26 sports, with around 1,000 medals up for grabs for the best of the best.*

    For the rest of the Olympic athletes, the numbers get tough. Figures from the USA Track and Field Foundation found that only half US track and field athletes ranked in the top ten in the nation make more than $15,000 a year from the sport. Many in more obscure sports are lucky to make any money at all, CNN reports.”

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com.....z2u4iMMUlI

  125. Tar February 22nd, 2014 at 1:01 pm

    “U.S. stars such as snowboarder Shaun White, a former gold medalist with a signature clothing line, or alpine skier Bode Miller, a five-time Olympic gold medalist who is reportedly worth millions, are in the top 39.6 percent tax bracket. “

  126. Revenge of Stoneburner February 22nd, 2014 at 1:01 pm

    Here’s the rest of BA by positional ranking:

    Catcher: Sanchez (2nd out of 25), John Ryan Murphy (12th)
    First Base: Greg Bird (11th out of 20)
    Second Base: Gosuke Katoh (21st out of 25)
    Third Base: Eric Jagielo (14th out of 25)
    Corner Outfield: Aaron Judge (19th out of 40)
    Center Field: Slade Heathcott (15th out of 30), Mason Williams (19th)
    Right-handers: Tanaka (1st out of 65)
    Left-handers: Ian Clarkin (22nd out of 30)

  127. UpState February 22nd, 2014 at 1:01 pm

    Nice, recent rankings with individual links :

    http://www.baseballamerica.com.....ects-free/

  128. Tar February 22nd, 2014 at 1:02 pm

    “Russia, this year’s Winter Olympics host country, treats their athletes well. Not only will a gold medal earn an athlete $113,200, but also regional and private bonuses triple that value, according to Russian Olympic Committee head Alexander Zhukov.”

    But its ok to focus on “Malaysia” if that helps you.

  129. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 1:07 pm

    “U.S. stars such as snowboarder Shaun White, a former gold medalist with a signature clothing line, or alpine skier Bode Miller, a five-time Olympic gold medalist who is reportedly worth millions, are in the top 39.6 percent tax bracket. “

    :roll:

    So Shaun White has a clothing line and is in a band, and Bode Miller has endorsements. So what? They are not athletes who draw an annual salary for participating against other athletes drawing an annual salary, on a professional level. They are still out on the amateur circuit year in and year out.

  130. Tar February 22nd, 2014 at 1:09 pm

    “However, there is a catch with this money — you only get it if you are famous and/or win.”

    No kidding. Guess what that is true in professional sports as well. How much do you think a no name A ball flunky makes?

    Of course the big payday goes to the bigger stars.

    And just because our Country doesn’t directly pay athletes to train and compete….that doesn’t mean that Countries like China and Russia and countless others don’t. Of course they pay them.

  131. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 1:09 pm

    “Not only will a gold medal earn an athlete $113,200, but also regional and private bonuses triple that value, according to Russian Olympic Committee head Alexander Zhukov.”

    And that makes them professionals?

  132. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 1:10 pm

    “And just because our Country doesn’t directly pay athletes to train and compete….that doesn’t mean that Countries like China and Russia and countless others don’t. Of course they pay them.”

    Prove it. They may pay for their training. I doubt they are given a salary for working out.

  133. raymagnetic February 22nd, 2014 at 1:12 pm

    “But its ok to focus on “Malaysia” if that helps you.”

    You do realize that most of the athletes who compete do not win gold medals, right?

    You pointed out Malaysia. Truth is the vast majority of Olympians are paid very little if anything at all.

    Also there are hundreds of athletes who compete and never make it to the Olympics at all.

  134. Tar February 22nd, 2014 at 1:13 pm

    “And that makes them professionals?”

    No Trish…..I’m sure a Chinese athlete trains and has a full time job on the side. Okie dokie.

    I’m with Shame you’re taking an extreme not realistic view of what happens in real life.

  135. Tar February 22nd, 2014 at 1:16 pm

    “You do realize that most of the athletes who compete do not win gold medals, right?”

    You do realize that most professional athletes( 90% is what you posted) make enough to be considered living under poverty standards don’t you?

    And are you suggesting that Russia and China do not compensate their Athletes to train for the Olympics?

  136. yankinvegas February 22nd, 2014 at 1:17 pm

    I’m getting prepared for the “experts” to pick us for 4th or 5th. I really like our team and I see a lot of upside.
    Roberts, Tex, Nunez will surprise in the infield and the rest of the team is real good. The pitching is the best in the division.
    So, screw the haters. 2014 will be a really fun and successful season for all Yankees fans.

  137. tomingeorgia February 22nd, 2014 at 1:18 pm

    Bode Miller and Shaun White compete in a professional sport.

  138. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 1:20 pm

    Tar, I hope you see the difference between Adelina Sotnikova, the 17 year old Russian figure skater who won gold, and Kobe Bryant (besides the fact that they participate in different sports). Sotnikova may get money from Russia for bringing home the gold, but that doesn’t make her a salaried professional athlete who is paid to participate in each event she enters. In fact she isn’t paid to participate in any of the events. And Julia Lipnitskaia won nothing, but she will be participating in the same events along with Sotnikova.

  139. Ys Guy February 22nd, 2014 at 1:22 pm

    “DONNYBROOK February 22nd, 2014 at 12:42 pm
    I complained about BASEBALL being kicked out of the Olympics. I have No desire to see MLB athletes in the Olympics.”
    =============================
    baseball was kicked out of the olympics BECAUSE the professionals were not playing. Amateur baseball in the olympics is dead as a doornail. Baseball will only come back to the Olympics if the MLB players are in it.

    Let’s hope that never happens.

  140. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 1:24 pm

    “No Trish…..I’m sure a Chinese athlete trains and has a full time job on the side. Okie dokie.”

    I believe it’s total bull that they are paid beyond the cost of their training. And unless you can prove otherwise, it remains total bull, despite your saying so. You don’t know what they do on the side and what they don’t do.

    And it doesn’t surprise me that you are of the same mind as Shame. I think you think alike in many things, including the use of steroids in sports.

    Some of us fight against infiltration and bas*ardization, others accept it as the way things are.

  141. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 1:25 pm

    “Bode Miller and Shaun White compete in a professional sport.”

    Good try tom!

  142. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 22nd, 2014 at 1:41 pm

    Gotta run but I don’t think we should get tied up in the $$$ aspect. These Olympic competitors, absent the hockey players, are still out there training every day of their lives. The competitions aren’t daily. Professionals show up at their jobs and play. Training time is well in the past.

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