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Sunday notes: Jeter likely to debut on Thursday

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 23, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Derek Jeter

Derek Jeter’s not going to play against the college kids on Tuesday, and he’s not going on the road to Bradenton on Wednesday. The Captain’s first spring training game, then, will almost certainly come at home against the Pirates on Thursday. That game happens to be on YES Network and WFAN.

“It’s been a while since I played a game,” Jeter said. “I think everyone looks forward the first game in spring training. You want to get games under your belt. I’m looking forward to it, but don’t rush it. I told you, one day at a time.”

Girardi said the Yankees want to have Jeter run the bases one more time before he gets in a game, but right now there is no indication that he’s a step behind his teammates. He’s moved pretty well in the field, and the team has expressed no concern about the way he’s running. Jeter has dismissed every question about the health of his ankle or the strength of his legs.

“Like I told you, everything’s good,” he said.

Even with everything feeling good, it’s still not likely Jeter will make many road trips this spring. He might not get the Mariano Rivera treatment, but it’ll be close. With one exception. You can bet Jeter will be on the trip to Panama to honor Rivera in March. Girardi wouldn’t name names, but he said he’s begun reaching out to various players to ask if they’re interested in going to Panama. That’s one trip that will probably have quite a few volunteers. Is Jeter definitely going?

“What do you think?” he said, laughing. “I’m pretty sure I’ll go to Panama, I don’t know though. We’re going to Kalamazoo next year (to play) my old high school team.”

He was kidding. I think.

David Robertson· Worth mentioning the wake of the Brett Gardner extension: Brian Cashman said he hasn’t had any extension discussions with Dave Robertson or his representatives.

· Early spring training rotation:
Tuesday: Vidal Nuno
Wednesday: Ivan Nova
Thursday: David Phelps
Friday: Adam Warren

· Andrew Bailey has not reported to Yankees camp yet, and he won’t be in the mix for a big league job until well into the second half of the season. “Could be August, could be September, might not be at all,” Cashman said. Bailey had shoulder surgery in July and it will be at least a year before he’s approaching major-league-ready status. “When he’s healthy he’s an exceptional reliever,” Cashman said. “He’s coming off a shoulder surgery, so we’re taking a flyer. A low risk, and if we can get a reward out of it, great. One of those, nothing ventured, nothing gained. Because it’s a shoulder, more likely than not it’s an uphill battle but we’ll see.”

· By the way, Bailey’s not throwing a baseball yet. The Yankees didn’t sign him based on a bullpen or anything like that, it’s just a guy who’s been successful in the past. They signed him based on “who he was,” Cashman said.

· One other bullpen note: Girardi said today that he considers Robertson and Matt Thornton absolute locks for the bullpen, and Shawn Kelley is basically a lock as well. Girardi also said he fully expects both David Phelps and Adam Warren to make the team in some capacity. He’d said as much about Phelps yesterday, but today he made it clear that he’s envisioning a team with Warren either in the rotation or in the bullpen. It’s very unlikely that Warren will be sent to Triple-A to stay stretched out.

· Although Thornton has experience as a setup man and closer, Girardi said he was brought here to be basically what Boone Logan used to be. He’s primarily a left-on-left guy who can stay in to face a right-hander or two depending on the situation. Not strictly a specialists, but not really a go-to setup man either. “In reality we brought him here to get lefties out,” Girardi said. “But if you’re going to see left, right, left, there’s a good chance you’re going to leave him in. Two big lefties among three hitters, there’s a good chance I’m going to leave him in.”

· As for filling the rest of the bullpen, Girardi said he’s been encouraged by what he’s seen in camp so far. “I can’t say I’ve seen a BP or bullpen session where I said, ‘That wasn’t very good,’” Girardi said. “They’ve all been really good. Probably more than I expected this time of year. … When I think of our younger kids, I see a big step they’ve made since last spring training to this spring training.”

Michael Pineda· Girardi seemed to vaguely agreed with John Ryan Murphy’s assessment that Michael Pineda’s batting practice wasn’t as sharp as it could have been this morning, but Girardi also mentioned that he saw improvement throughout the session. “I thought the last five, seven pitches he got dialed in, which to me is a good sign,” Girardi said. “The first time you face a hitter in four (or) five months, you don’t expect guys to be as sharp as they’re going to be. But he got better as he went along, which is a great sign to me.”

· Alfonso Soriano (flu) is expected to be around tomorrow and might do a light workout. He apparently felt better today. “We won’t really know until he gets here tomorrow,” Girardi said.

· The other guys who were hurt yesterday — Jim Miller, Tyler Austin and Nik Turley — are basically waiting to be reevaluated. Girardi said it’s likely Turley will be shut down for a full week. “Just to make sure (he’s alright),” Girardi said. “All the tests came back fine.”

· This surprised me a little bit in the clubhouse: Pete O’Brien speaks fluent Spanish. He’s a big white guy named O’Brien, but his mother is Cuban, and he grew up in Miami, so he speaks Spanish just as well as he speaks English. Said he actually spoken Spanish first as a kid. It obviously makes it easier to communicate with the Latin pitchers and with a lot of the Latin catchers he’s been doing drills with every day. For whatever it’s worth, O’Brien seems to have it together pretty well for a guy who’s new to big league camp. There’s a quiet confidence to him.

· There’s some pitching work scheduled for the early morning, but the Yankees won’t have a full team workout tomorrow. They’re instead doing one of their team-bonding trips like they’ve done in recent years.

· Final word goes to Girardi, who was asked if there was any chance of Rivera playing for the Yankees in Panama. “I asked,” Girardi said. “I said I thought maybe we might see you in centerfield. He kinda laughed at me.”

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93 Responses to “Sunday notes: Jeter likely to debut on Thursday”

  1. blake February 23rd, 2014 at 5:42 pm

    @ChrisCotillo: Source: Andrew Bailey’s 2015 option with the #Yankees is a team option. Security blanket for #Yankees if he’s not ready this year.

    There you go

  2. blake February 23rd, 2014 at 5:43 pm

    @ChrisCotillo: Source: #Yankees deal with Gardner does not include incentives or bonuses. 4-years, $52MM with $12.5MM option for fifth year.

  3. AAA February 23rd, 2014 at 5:47 pm

    Teixeira vs RHP:

    2010: .799 OPS
    2011: .779 OPS
    2012: .770 OPS

    Don’t know what it was last year, but the sample size would be small anyway. Point is he’s a long way removed from being an elite left handed bat.

  4. blake February 23rd, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    I’m hoping for .775 OPS vs RHP and .850 ish vs LHP….if tex can do that I’ll consider it a success an it’ll really help the club given that I have no real expectations for him at all

  5. Cashmoney February 23rd, 2014 at 5:51 pm

    AAA, beyond the OPS part, Tex is just a very very flawed LH hitter at this point, that’s more troublesome part.

  6. jmills February 23rd, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    Suddenly, I have a pretty good basketball team here. I don’t really get it ( 5 guys on the court right? ). Duane Casey is a great interview. Nice guy, and you can tell he works hard. Vince regrets leaving Toronto. The guys I remember are the muscle diggers – Charles Oakley!

  7. blake February 23rd, 2014 at 5:58 pm

    @JonHeymanCBS: gardner breakdown: $2M sign bonus, $12M in ’15, $13M in ’16, $12M in ’17, $11M in ’18. $2M buyout on $12.5M ’19 option

  8. tomingeorgia February 23rd, 2014 at 5:58 pm

    Charles Oakley was the man! Didn’t see him dog it, ever.

  9. Ys Guy February 23rd, 2014 at 6:00 pm

    my preferred lineup starts ellsbury, gardner beltran, then soriano, then tex and mccann

  10. pete2 February 23rd, 2014 at 6:00 pm

    Ellsbury must feel like he is on vacation with the Yankees, at least in terms of ST interviews.

    Under the old CBA teams would have to wait to announce extensions until after ST to defer the AAV till next year. Glad that insanity is over with.

    One less hole for the Yankees to fill next year.

    Didn’t like the way Pineda threw today. Seemed he was pushing the ball. Might not have been warmed up enough. Pitchers with labrum surgery generally need longer to warm up which is why I don’t much like the idea of moving him to the pen. Some RP’ers have done ok after the surgery so maybe it does not affect everyone the same, or maybe not every labrum surgery is the same.

  11. jmills February 23rd, 2014 at 6:02 pm

    tom, how’s Daytona? I heard it was delayed.

  12. pete2 February 23rd, 2014 at 6:03 pm

    So does this mean the Yankees ban on extensions is done with? If so, good riddance.

  13. Cashmoney February 23rd, 2014 at 6:04 pm

    Just a thought, are the Yanks scrambling to find Rod’s replacement in 15? I keep on reading that many Yankees prospects including Austin and O’brien has been getting glove times at 3rd.

  14. tomingeorgia February 23rd, 2014 at 6:09 pm

    Last I heard, they’re still drying the track. Don’t know if they will restart tonight, 70% chance of showers. My man is in the lead, Kyle Bush. If they can’t restart, they’ll do it tomorrow.

  15. Cashmoney February 23rd, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    So does this mean the Yankees ban on extensions is done with?
    Wasn’t Cano extended? I will be more concern with Yanks in producing major league talents that warrant extensions.

  16. Crawdaddy February 23rd, 2014 at 6:13 pm

    O’Brien speaks spanish fluently and so does John Ryan Murphy. Both of them have a parent that is Hispanic and thought them the language.

  17. Jerkface February 23rd, 2014 at 6:16 pm

    Wasn’t Cano extended? I will be more concern with Yanks in producing major league talents that warrant extensions.

    Jeter and Cano both got longer contracts than the normal 1 year arbitration deals. So I’m not sure that the Yankees considered those extensions? We probably have to wait until they extend someone who is already under a multiyear deal before we declare the extension rule over.

  18. Cashmoney February 23rd, 2014 at 6:26 pm

    Ah Jerk, thanks for the clarification. but I assume the whole underlying idea here is that when you identify a young asset, you want to tie em up early to save money in eventuality.

  19. I am Brett Godner February 23rd, 2014 at 6:27 pm

    I have been thinking that Tex might be better off giving up switch hitting for a few years now. At what point does seeing the pitches as a switch hitter get out weighed by how much better his swing is from his natural side.

  20. Jerkface February 23rd, 2014 at 6:28 pm

    Definitely, but the policy was always not to talk to a player already under contract which is a little different than not talking to players under team control.

    The jeter and cano deals were good. They should have given Cano a 2nd deal though! I think Posada and Mariano wanted deals as well while still under contract? Those are the areas the Yankees need to sharpen up.

  21. tomingeorgia February 23rd, 2014 at 6:28 pm

    Great match play. Frenchman vs. an Aborigine. The Frenchman came back from three down on the 15th to tie it with a birdy on the 18th. I’m with the Frenchman because the Australian keeps yelling at the crowd, while he hasn’t said a thing to anyone.

  22. Howler February 23rd, 2014 at 6:31 pm

    Good extension on Gardner…makes it an easy contract to trade if someone becomes available. I really don’t see him finishing out the deal with the Yankees unless someone gets hurt.

  23. Howler February 23rd, 2014 at 6:39 pm

    It’s going to be nice to see a baseball game on tv…looking forward to seeing how Jeter is running too.

  24. tomingeorgia February 23rd, 2014 at 6:39 pm

    Dubosson vs. Day,
    Golf theater.

  25. Ys Guy February 23rd, 2014 at 6:50 pm

    i hit that same shot 4 or 5 times every time i golf! :)

  26. tomingeorgia February 23rd, 2014 at 6:50 pm

    Dubuisson. Which translates, I think, as from the bushes, which is where he is right now,

  27. Ys Guy February 23rd, 2014 at 6:51 pm

    not THAT shot, the one before it! :)

  28. Yankees_Fan February 23rd, 2014 at 6:52 pm

    Second thoughts on Aledmys Diaz?

  29. tomingeorgia February 23rd, 2014 at 6:59 pm

    I think this is the greatest golf match I’ve ever seen. These two guys have been out there for twelve hours, and they’re still making amazing shots.

  30. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 23rd, 2014 at 7:05 pm

    In December Brian Cashman informed Brett Gardner’s representatives the Yankees were interested in retaining the speedy outfielder with a contract extension despite having signed Jacoby Ellsbury to a seven-year, $153 million deal to play center field and bat leadoff.

    The general manager made good on his word Sunday when the Yankees and Gardner agreed to a four-year contract worth $52 million. The deal starts in 2015 after Gardner plays the coming season for $5.6 million. The contract includes a Yankees’ option for 2019 for $12.5 million with a $2 million buyout. Gardner, 30, doesn’t have a no-trade clause, but would get $1 million if dealt.

    “He has made himself into a tremendous major league player and he has a mental toughness that we love and he is great teammate,’’ Cashman said of the 5-foot-10, 185-pound outfielder who walked on at College of Charleston and developed into a third-round pick in the 2005 draft.

    In Cashman we trust.


  31. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 23rd, 2014 at 7:06 pm

    I still don’t understand why anyone would want Gardner traded, but I guess it doesn’t much matter now!

  32. Howler February 23rd, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    he has the type of injuries that I don’t like to see in that type of player, strains, pulls…his body type is such that it’ll show the wear faster, and get those types of injuries as he ages. He’s fast, but not great on the bases. As an offensive player he’s just average, relies on his speed but can’t bunt very well.
    At the price he’s a worthwhile piece, but I think he’s someone who could be replaced from the minors, it’s also a price that will make him more attractive to other teams because he can do some things better than others and with the contract out of the way it’ll make what you’d get back better than if he was just playing out the year.

  33. pete2 February 23rd, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    “erkface February 23rd, 2014 at 6:28 pm

    Definitely, but the policy was always not to talk to a player already under contract which is a little different than not talking to players under team control. ”

    Thanks for the distinction, I was confused about that. However, there really should be no distinction. On the one hand, a player is bound to the team via the CBA , on the other his own players contract.

  34. pete2 February 23rd, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    ” I am Brett Godner February 23rd, 2014 at 6:27 pm

    I have been thinking that Tex might be better off giving up switch hitting for a few years now. At what point does seeing the pitches as a switch hitter get out weighed by how much better his swing is from his natural side.”
    After seeing Victorino scrap hitting LH with success I would like to see Tex try. However, while Victorino is batting RH at Fenway, Tex would be giving up hitting LH at YS3, a haven for LHH. I doubt he tries.

    I would like Tex to learn to go the other way against the shift like Ortiz does sometimes, but he seems unable to do this. Maybe the bad wrist forces him to do this more

    Tex is not going to have the protection he once had with Arod and Cano. Beltran, McCann and Soriano are good hitters but not in the same league with them. See how this affects him, if at all.

  35. ac1 February 23rd, 2014 at 7:24 pm

    Should be the lineup:

    Gardner (because he is patient)

    vs. rhp id even consider gardner leadoff, jeter 2nd and ellsbury 3rd….

  36. Wave Your Hat February 23rd, 2014 at 7:27 pm

    I love Gardner as a CF, not wild about him as a corner OF.

  37. pete2 February 23rd, 2014 at 7:30 pm

    ac1. My knee jerk reaction was to ridicule Jeter at the 3rd spot, but if he hits like in 2012 I could see it. I think I would prefer Beltran at 4th though and Tex at 5th. Soriano is kind of streaky and is a low OBP guy. You don’t want out makers batting 4th even if they have power, that’s for your 5th or 6th batters.

    If Ellsbury hits with power this year I could actually see him batting 3rd with Gardner and Jeter 1-2

  38. MTU February 23rd, 2014 at 7:36 pm

    Just back from today’s hike.

    Come to find out they have extended GGBG.

    Perhaps it is a sign that the outmoded extension policy will be revised going forward ?

  39. Howler February 23rd, 2014 at 7:38 pm

    Hope you enjoyed the hike…I’m having a long blast of snow today..probably about 8 inches at this point and still coming down. I guess we’ll have to see how the extension policy works going forward, perhaps they’ve learned their lesson.

  40. MTU February 23rd, 2014 at 7:41 pm


    I did. Immensely. Thanks.

    Giving the right players extensions will save Hal money.

  41. Doreen February 23rd, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    Pat M,

    I don’t know if you’re still around, but, “Happy Birthday!”

    You’re wife is a gem! That’s a nice gift – very different – something you’ll enjoy and remember.

    Have a great time with it!

  42. MTU February 23rd, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    Waiting to hear on Diaz.

    He seems like a good fit.

    Young, versatile, relatively inexpensive.

  43. Doreen February 23rd, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    And Congratulations to Brett Gardner.

    Interesting development.

  44. MTU February 23rd, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    Happy B’Day Pat.

    Hope it has been a good one.


  45. MTU February 23rd, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    D-Rob should be extended too !


  46. LGY February 23rd, 2014 at 7:52 pm


    That’s a lot of money for a “4th OF”

  47. Blojaldo February 23rd, 2014 at 8:03 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue February 23rd, 2014 at 7:06 pm
    I still don’t understand why anyone would want Gardner traded, but I guess it doesn’t much matter now!
    Trisha, I don’t think it’s that people don’t like Gardner or appreciate his skills. But pragmatically, he is one of the few tradable chips the Yankees have (along with Nova) in conjunction with having enough outfielders and other needs to fill.

    There is a reason the Yankees didn’t go for a no-trade clause; I don’t believe they want to deal Gardner but one never knows when an urgent need may arise. He provides that insurance in an emergency situation.

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