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Video: Gardner talks contract extension (plus some details of the deal)

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Five things to know about the Brett Gardner extension.

1. It’s a four-year contract worth $52 million, but that guaranteed money includes the $2 million buyout for the fifth year. Gardner is actually making $50 million — $12.5 million per year — for the next four years. After that, the Yankees can either pay him another $2 million to buy out the contract or pick up a $12.5-million option for 2019.

2. The deal begins in 2015, so Gardner is essentially signed for the next five years with a team option for the sixth year. Basically the same length of time as the Brian McCann signing.

3. There is not a no-trade clause built into the contract, but Gardner does get a $1 million bonus from the Yankees if he’s traded at any point.

4. Brian Cashman mentioned Michael Bourn’s four-year, $48-million deal with Cleveland as a point of comparison. Bourn and Gardner are similar players, and with the free agent market generating larger contracts year after year, Gardner gets a little bit more money.

5. Because of the rules in the Collective Bargaining Agreement, the extension counts as a new contract that begins next year. Gardner’s current average annual value — in terms of calculating the luxury tax — does not change based on the extension. Gardner is making $5.6 million this season, and Cashman said that’s what the Yankees will be charged in terms of luxury tax calculations for this season. It’s not until next year that Gardner’s AAV will increase.

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132 Responses to “Video: Gardner talks contract extension (plus some details of the deal)”

  1. Ys Guy February 23rd, 2014 at 3:05 pm

    Ys Guy February 23rd, 2014 at 3:04 pm
    I have to say that given all the grief I get when I was advocating extending Gardner last month, the reactions are quite positive to the announcement.

    Of course, most of that greif i got was from 2 posters…

  2. PhiltheThrill February 23rd, 2014 at 3:05 pm

    Easy guy to root for.

  3. bigdan22 February 23rd, 2014 at 3:07 pm

    Re-post:

    Overall I’m not sure I like the Gardner extension from a pure baseball perspective. I think a team like the Yanks should set their sights higher than a Gardner for a corner OF spot. Gardner is a good player. Maybe better than good when he’s in CF. But the Yanks already have that.

    I’m thinking economics has a lot to do with this extension. As I’ve pointed out before, reducing the budget is a key objective of Hal. It is far more important to him than it was to his dad. The farm is the way for the Yanks to bring down the budget long term. But if you recognize the farm has failed, at least with respect to the OF right now, and you consider the alternatives to Gardner over the next three years or so, extending Gardner now is a good value. Maybe not the best baseball decision, but a very good business decision.

  4. AAA February 23rd, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    Maybe not the best baseball decision, but a very good business decision.

    ======================================

    I’m okay with it in both regards, but moreso as a business decision simply because they didn’t grossly overpay. They didn’t underpay, as this seems consistent with what experts thought his market would be next winter, but for once THEY DIDN’T OVERPAY!

  5. Revenge of Stoneburner February 23rd, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    Revenge of Stoneburner February 23rd, 2014 at 3:12 pm
    jmills February 23rd, 2014 at 3:09 pm
    Stone, thanks, a large part of me is stuck in eighties baseball. I like their pants more.

    *****

    I know it was the later part, but Sky Dome was just so cool when it opened (still is for my nostalgic taste). It will always be Sky Dome for me. And it is the only stadium that sounds like a James Bond movie to me.

  6. Revenge of Stoneburner February 23rd, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    I am getting greedy – first there was the Bailey announcement, then Gardner, now I want something official on Diaz, and then some rumblings the Yanks are looking at Franklin.

  7. Revenge of Stoneburner February 23rd, 2014 at 3:15 pm

    Mark Feinsand ? @FeinsandNYDN
    Jeter’s spring debut Thursday also happens to be the first YES broadcast of the spring. Funny how that works, isn’t it?

    *****

    Fox has to be happy about that. Cannot watch it live, but yeah DVR!

  8. Revenge of Stoneburner February 23rd, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    jmills February 23rd, 2014 at 3:16 pm
    I call it SkyDome too. Its a fine edifice, and I know when I drive all the way from Hamilton, there’s going to be a game. I think Paul Molitor with the Brewers hit the first ever homer there. Great choice, Molitor is Topps in my books.

    *******

    I was a fan of Topps, then Donruss (I like how they wrote rookie on their cards). Fleer just never did anything for me (except for the Billy Ripken bad word card). Mattingly’s Topps card was and still is the gold standard for me. Second would be Griffey’s Upper Deck rookie card.

  9. Pat M. February 23rd, 2014 at 3:22 pm

    I just received my birthday gift a day early from my wife….I get to drive a Lamborgini for two days. I didn’t ask how much it cost to rent…..

  10. AAA February 23rd, 2014 at 3:23 pm

    now I want something official on Diaz

    ===============================

    Is there something unofficial on Diaz? Scuttlebut? Rumors?

  11. Revenge of Stoneburner February 23rd, 2014 at 3:23 pm

    Pat M. February 23rd, 2014 at 3:22 pm
    I just received my birthday gift a day early from my wife….I get to drive a Lamborgini for two days. I didn’t ask how much it cost to rent…..

    ****

    What color?

  12. Mike in Harrisburg February 23rd, 2014 at 3:25 pm

    Happy to see Gardner in pinstripes for at least the next four years. As Phil notes, an easy guy to root for.

  13. Revenge of Stoneburner February 23rd, 2014 at 3:25 pm

    AAA February 23rd, 2014 at 3:23 pm
    now I want something official on Diaz

    ===============================

    Is there something unofficial on Diaz? Scuttlebut? Rumors?

    ****

    Yeah last night posted a link to that the Yanks are in the lead – not much – but I will take any ray of hope at this point:

    Max Wildstein
    ?@MaxWildsteinMLB
    Source: #Yankees are front-runners to sign Cuban SS Aledmys Diaz, and he should make his announcement on where he is signing on Monday

  14. AAA February 23rd, 2014 at 3:25 pm

    I just received my birthday gift a day early from my wife….I get to drive a Lamborgini for two days. I didn’t ask how much it cost to rent…..

    ====================================

    Nice. Happy birthday.

  15. tomingeorgia February 23rd, 2014 at 3:28 pm

    Pat M.,
    It has to be red. right?

  16. bigdan22 February 23rd, 2014 at 3:29 pm

    This is also more evidence that the Hal regime is more strategic than the prior Steinbrenner regime. Look at the recent decisions: farm reconstruction, No to Cano, Tanaka investment, July 2 spending and now Gardner extension. The organization is making decisions not just for one year at a time. It wouldn’t surprise if they’ve budgeted out certain areas like OF, SP, IF, for the next several years. They may have decided what areas to go “cheap” and wait for the farm and what areas to spend heavily.

    Before it was just spend. Now it’s invest, say no to unreasonable demands even to the homegrown, extend the homegrown if reasonable, and spend.

    Slowly a picture is starting to take shape.

  17. Tyler February 23rd, 2014 at 3:30 pm

    Seems like a good deal for both sides. Gardner gets a nice contract and gets to stay in a good situation for him. Yanks get him extended and avoid overpaying for somebody on the FA market.

  18. Revenge of Stoneburner February 23rd, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    like OF, SP, IF, for the next several years

    *****

    My guess is the IF is next offseason, with the likes of Sandoval, Headley, Hardy, Cabrera, and Lowrie possibly available for MIF and 3b

  19. Tar February 23rd, 2014 at 3:33 pm

    “I get to drive a Lamborgini for two days.”

    Go pick up the pool girls…. and have a night… and day… and night on the town.

    Damn can I come?

  20. yanks61 February 23rd, 2014 at 3:33 pm

    I always liked BretT. Good signing. Per Mike Axisa:

    “The signing is a welcome break from the team’s archaic no extensions policy, which Cashman confirmed to Mark Feinsand is a thing of the past. The Yankees tried to extend Russell Martin, Hiroki Kuroda, and Robinson Cano prior to free agency in recent years, but to no avail. The last homegrown player to sign a long-term deal with the team before becoming a free agent was Cano, who inked a four-year deal with a pair of club options way back in February 2008, four years before he was due to hit the open market.”

  21. Tar February 23rd, 2014 at 3:35 pm

    “The Yankees tried to extend Russell Martin, Hiroki Kuroda, and Robinson Cano prior to free agency in recent years, but to no avail.”

    Malarkey

  22. Giuseppe Franco February 23rd, 2014 at 3:35 pm

    Happy Birthday, Pat M.

    I’ve got a birthday coming up a week from Wed.

    Sounds like your present will be a lot cooler than mine.

  23. Against All Odds February 23rd, 2014 at 3:35 pm

    This deal, in effect, is more evidence of the failure of the Yanks’ farm system.

    —————–

    I see where you’re coming from because they were hoping that you of the outfielders would be knocking on the door by 15 at the latest.

  24. Against All Odds February 23rd, 2014 at 3:36 pm

    Happy Birthday Pat M

  25. bigdan22 February 23rd, 2014 at 3:37 pm

    Revenge of Stoneburner February 23rd, 2014 at 3:31 pm
    like OF, SP, IF, for the next several years

    *****

    My guess is the IF is next offseason, with the likes of Sandoval, Headley, Hardy, Cabrera, and Lowrie possibly available for MIF and 3b

    ——

    Perhaps, but if I’m reading Hal right, I believe his people have targeted certain areas to go cheap in and wait for the farm. RF may that area as Beltran’s contract winds down. 2b may be too but that may be Diaz (which really is the farm). I think he’d spend for SS. He’s not going to do anything long term on 3b until he sees what kind of shape Arod is in next year. He’s already got a ton of money allocated there.

  26. AAA February 23rd, 2014 at 3:43 pm

    Look at the recent decisions: farm reconstruction

    ==================================

    Farm construction is not a recent decision. It’s a rather old one in which they’ve failed massively.

  27. bigdan22 February 23rd, 2014 at 3:48 pm

    Another thing that is appearing now is that the Yanks are apparently building a “three year team.” That is a team that probably won’t change much over the next three years or so.

    The only real big change I foresee is at SS. I think there will be a major acquisition to replace Jeter next year. Arod will be at 3b and I think they’ll continue to go cheap at 2b and wait for farm help (Diaz?). The OF is locked in except for Soriano and they’ll probably backfill there because he’s really surplus. And Kuroda will be gone but he’ll probably be replaced by someone already on the roster who we already know.

    So I think this is pretty much the Yanks for the next three years. Except for Jeter.

  28. Revenge of Stoneburner February 23rd, 2014 at 3:49 pm

    This deal, in effect, is more evidence of the failure of the Yanks’ farm system.

    *****

    In general I do agree, but I do also want to point out that Gardner is from the Yanks’ farm system – so it is also a victory kind of sort of – but I do agree with your general point that the farm system has failed this past year and has a whole lot of work to do – coaches and players

  29. Shame Spencer February 23rd, 2014 at 3:49 pm

    I’m glad for Brett, but from a practical standpoint it’s a bit of a weird decision in conjunction with the Ellsbury deal.

  30. Shame Spencer February 23rd, 2014 at 3:51 pm

    The deal definitely tells us a lot about the state of the farm… but they haven’t kept the possibility of Austin to 3B a secret. They could just be doubling down on that and giving Mason a little breathing room. It isn’t like Beltran is going to be a full time OFer for the next 3 years. The only issue becomes the pop you normally get from the corner OF spots.

  31. bigdan22 February 23rd, 2014 at 3:52 pm

    Farm construction is not a recent decision. It’s a rather old one in which they’ve failed massively.

    ——

    I think Hal’s farm reconstruction started with the meeting in Tampa last August. That’s when it became clear that he couldn’t rely on the farm to not only help save 2013 but get him to his long term goal of payroll reduction and possibly 189. I think significant changes and decisions were made in those meetings for which we are aware of a few.

  32. bigdan22 February 23rd, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    Revenge of Stoneburner February 23rd, 2014 at 3:49 pm
    This deal, in effect, is more evidence of the failure of the Yanks’ farm system.

    *****

    In general I do agree, but I do also want to point out that Gardner is from the Yanks’ farm system

    —–

    True. I realized that when I wrote that sentence. This is a bit of a paradox but hey, it’s baseball!

  33. Cashmoney February 23rd, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    I don’t think gardner would have gotten that much more in FA but what do I know. I prefer power in my corner of and inf.

  34. Revenge of Stoneburner February 23rd, 2014 at 3:57 pm

    Cashmoney February 23rd, 2014 at 3:55 pm
    I don’t think gardner would have gotten that much more in FA but what do I know. I prefer power in my corner of and inf.

    *****

    Depending on the year he had of course, I could have seen someone paying Bourn money to him, which is not that much more – he is also not a platoon nightmare like Choo

  35. bigdan22 February 23rd, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    Shame Spencer February 23rd, 2014 at 3:49 pm
    I’m glad for Brett, but from a practical standpoint it’s a bit of a weird decision in conjunction with the Ellsbury deal.

    —–

    I remember minutes after the Ellsbury deal was announced I posted “Gardner is gone” and many agreed. But I changed my mind over the next several days as the Yanks were sending out clear messages that Gardner wasn’t on the block and it became clear to me that for 2014 the Yanks would need the OF depth and Gardner was relatively cheap. But extending him is a completely different matter. His and Ellsbury’s skills do appear to be duplicative. Which is why I believe economics is at the heart of this. And of course farm failure.

  36. Pat M. February 23rd, 2014 at 4:00 pm

    Yellow Gallardo Convertible….Wow what a car, then again I guess this is what you get for 225 K. 550 horsepower.

  37. Revenge of Stoneburner February 23rd, 2014 at 4:00 pm

    Sox better hope Bradley Jr. pans out:

    jasoncollette ?@jasoncollette 1h
    With both Crisp and now Gardner off the market, the FA CF market for next offseason gets even slimmer. Rasmus best option for teams in need

  38. yankee21 February 23rd, 2014 at 4:01 pm

    I am in a LOHUD minority on this but I won’t jump on the bandwagon in saying this is a good move by the Yankees.

    I like Gardner the player now ok enough but the one tool he grades out as +, his speed, will obviously start declining as he gets into his 30s. So in a sense the Yankees will be paying a guy 12 million per year for good defense, a .270 or so average, .340 OBP, and 20-25 steals. To me that is a guy I don’t sign a LT deal with and would look to the farm in replacing.

    However, as has been the case for the better part of the last decade, this move is a clear signal Yankee decision makers are not bullish on the likelihood of any of the AA and AAA OF options being capable of replacing Gardner at a fraction of the price. So once again the lack of development of the farm system has hurt this team.

  39. Revenge of Stoneburner February 23rd, 2014 at 4:01 pm

    Pat M. February 23rd, 2014 at 4:00 pm
    Yellow Gallardo Convertible….Wow what a car, then again I guess this is what you get for 225 K. 550 horsepower.

    ******

    Can it play 2b or 3b – we are looking for someone.

  40. Revenge of Stoneburner February 23rd, 2014 at 4:03 pm

    So in a sense the Yankees will be paying a guy 12 million per year for good defense, a .270 or so average, .340 OBP, and 20-25 steals.

    ****

    I think it is more than just good defense, especially if he is playing LF. He plays up more there and the run prevention it is a significant factor in the overall equation of Brett’s value. But true, it will depend on how he ages (and of course, if he can stay healthy)

  41. pkyankfan69 February 23rd, 2014 at 4:07 pm

    Very happy all around.

    Seems like a very fair value contract for Gardner and the Yanks… Happy to hear how much Gardy wanted to stay. Happy to see the Yankees get with the times and extend a player before his contract is up. Yanks will have tremendous defense in CF and LF for years to come.

  42. bigdan22 February 23rd, 2014 at 4:08 pm

    I wonder if this past off season will be known as “The End of Free Agency.” I’m being facetious of course, but I think compared to the next few years, the market this year actual had some real products to buy and the Yanks did partake. I think more guys are going to be signed before next off season.

  43. Shame Spencer February 23rd, 2014 at 4:09 pm

    I remember minutes after the Ellsbury deal was announced I posted “Gardner is gone” and many agreed. But I changed my mind over the next several days as the Yanks were sending out clear messages that Gardner wasn’t on the block and it became clear to me that for 2014 the Yanks would need the OF depth and Gardner was relatively cheap. But extending him is a completely different matter. His and Ellsbury’s skills do appear to be duplicative. Which is why I believe economics is at the heart of this. And of course farm failure.

    ————-

    I had the same reaction to the deal. But the last thing you mention about the economics of it… I dunno, it seems like the resources put to Ellsbury and Gardner could have been allocated more efficiently. I’m a little concerned that with new money on the books for 2015, plus Arod’s salary, they’ll continue having problems with the INF and upgrading it.

  44. Revenge of Stoneburner February 23rd, 2014 at 4:09 pm

    Happy to see the Yankees get with the times and extend a player before his contract is up.

    *****

    RAB interestingly had a different take on this:

    “The Yankees tried to extend Russell Martin, Hiroki Kuroda, and Robinson Cano prior to free agency in recent years, but to no avail.”

  45. yankee21 February 23rd, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    As he ages Gardner will morph into being an outstanding 4th OF. To me his skill set will evolve into a guy that helps out a team defensively, can steal a few bases and won’t embarrass himself starting some games here and there.

    Sorry, I just don’t pay 12 mil for that especially when I have a similar guy playing CF who is also tied up LT.

    But Hal didn’t ask me this time..

  46. Revenge of Stoneburner February 23rd, 2014 at 4:11 pm

    bigdan22 February 23rd, 2014 at 4:08 pm
    I wonder if this past off season will be known as “The End of Free Agency.” I’m being facetious of course, but I think compared to the next few years, the market this year actual had some real products to buy and the Yanks did partake. I think more guys are going to be signed before next off season.

    ****

    I still think there are some very interesting IF and SP pieces still out there – of course – as you point out – they could sign longterm deals before hitting FA. I expect some to if they think they might fall into the Nelson Cruz/Stephen Drew QO neverworld.

  47. pkyankfan69 February 23rd, 2014 at 4:12 pm

    I definitely thought Gardner was a goner after this season once they signed Ellsbury, this was very surprising… Figured someone would have valued Gardner higher as a CF than the Yankees valued him as a LF and back up CF.

    If Gardner continues to preform like he did last year it will be a very tradeable contract if god forbid a few of the Yankee minor league OFers really emerge and need a spot on the big club.

  48. pkyankfan69 February 23rd, 2014 at 4:13 pm

    “The Yankees tried to extend Russell Martin, Hiroki Kuroda, and Robinson Cano prior to free agency in recent years, but to no avail.”
    —-
    Well at least happy they finally got it done.

  49. Your Name Here February 23rd, 2014 at 4:13 pm

    Just throwing this out there…..

    For the same money… Brandon Phillips could be at 2nd base and Nelson Cruz could have been in left field,

    That sounds a lot better than Gardner and Roberts.

  50. Jerkface February 23rd, 2014 at 4:14 pm

    Love the extension. I am glad the Yankees are more willing to hand them out. Lets hope we get a home grown star again and get an extension done there, or one of our young pitchers if they pan out.

  51. Jerkface February 23rd, 2014 at 4:16 pm

    “The Yankees tried to extend Russell Martin, Hiroki Kuroda, and Robinson Cano prior to free agency in recent years, but to no avail.”

    We know they offered Martin a 3/21 type deal which he turned down. I dont remember the Kuroda extension attempt, and they tried to extend Cano in the summer last year after turning down an extension attempt the year prior.

  52. Jerkface February 23rd, 2014 at 4:16 pm

    I don’t think this is the end of free agency. There will be some ‘good’ free agents year to year from teams that dont want to pay the price or dont want to retain the player (like Ellsbury and Boston).

    But I do agree that free agency is going to be more slim pickins going forward.

  53. blake February 23rd, 2014 at 4:18 pm

    I love this deal because it signifies an end to their stupid no extensions policy if nothing else…..I also think it’s a pretty fair deal and a good contract that’s still pretty movable if they want to trade him at some point

  54. Shame Spencer February 23rd, 2014 at 4:19 pm

    I’m just imagining what they could have done with all that Ellsbury money…

  55. Revenge of Stoneburner February 23rd, 2014 at 4:19 pm

    More from RAB:

    On the Yankees and a contract extension

    The Yankees approached Kuroda about an extension the day after he beat the Angels for his 11th win of the season (so August 13th). Hal Steinbrenner specifically told him they were “ready to talk” that day in the Yankee Stadium weight room and soon opened negotiations with his agent. Kuroda was not ready to commit to another year just yet, so nothing came of it. Between Kuroda, Robinson Cano, and Russell Martin a few years ago, the Yankees appear to be loosening on that archaic “no extensions” policy.

  56. Revenge of Stoneburner February 23rd, 2014 at 4:23 pm

    A nucleus begins to develop:

    Mark Feinsand ? @FeinsandNYDN
    NYY has 7 players signed thru 2016+: Gardner (’18), Ellsbury (’20), McCann (’18), CC (’16), Beltran (’16), Teixeira (’16) & Tanaka (’20).

  57. blake February 23rd, 2014 at 4:23 pm

    Shame Spencer says:
    February 23, 2014 at 4:19 pm
    I’m just imagining what they could have done with all that Ellsbury money…

    Well they could have had the best 2b Im baseball or they could have signed Cruz and Drew ….could have done lots of stuff

  58. Revenge of Stoneburner February 23rd, 2014 at 4:24 pm

    Mark Feinsand ? @FeinsandNYDN
    Girardi announced the first 4 exhibition starters: Tues Nuno, Wed Nova, Thur Phelps, Fri Warren. No date for CC, Kuroda, Tanaka or Pineda.

    Phelps it is for Thursday’s broadcast

  59. Against All Odds February 23rd, 2014 at 4:24 pm

    Lets hope we get a home grown star again
    —————————————-

    That’s what I’m hoping for :D

  60. Cashmoney February 23rd, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    Anyone thinks Os got a bargain in Cruz because I do.

  61. Ys Guy February 23rd, 2014 at 4:34 pm

    “Lets hope we get a home grown star again”
    ======================
    Aside from Gardner and DRob, ManBan and Betances are poised to really contribute this year! :)

  62. Ys Guy February 23rd, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    and even though he debuted in seattle, you have to consider michael pineda to be an indirect product of our farm system.

  63. Cashmoney February 23rd, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    Anyway, to continue from the paucity of FA thought, Yanks can’t develop their own, they are in deep… I propose Hal hire a mercenary company to rescue the entire Cuban National team then force them to sign indenture servitude for the next 10 years.

    That’s the ticket.

  64. Mike R February 23rd, 2014 at 4:43 pm

    Good deal for both sides,I think it is very fair both ways. Yes,it could be interpreted as a comment on the state of the farm system,but at least they recognize facts as facts. Should give us one of the best LF-CF combinations defensively in all of baseball for the next few years.

  65. Ys Guy February 23rd, 2014 at 4:45 pm

    i dont know where i’d put jeter, but i’d bat ellsbury/gardner 1/2.

  66. Cashmoney February 23rd, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    I hope Diaz come to the Yanks…

  67. tomingeorgia February 23rd, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    The din continues. The front office signs the best three free agents, extends a home-grown, lets go a great player due to exorbitant demands, maybe will sign a Cuban at a position of need, and they’re still knuckleheads. Let’s play baseball!

  68. blake February 23rd, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    Id bat Ellsury 3rd vs RHP

  69. Jerkface February 23rd, 2014 at 4:50 pm

    i dont know where i’d put jeter, but i’d bat ellsbury/gardner 1/2.

    Yea this would be great, especially vs RHP. I expct Jeter to still hit lefties this year since he is just so good vs them, but to not perform as well vs RHP as Gardner will.

    I said before but Gardner is a patient bat who will give Ellsbury a lot of time to steal. Ellsbury is an aggressive base stealer. Once he is on 2nd, he is more likely to steal 3rd than Gardner is, so if he steals 3rd that opens up Gardner to trail behind and steal 2nd or opens up 2nd for when Gardner gets on base.

    Ellsbury and Gardner could walk twice and be on 2nd and 3rd by the time Beltran gets up to bat. They would be an incredibly difficult duo to double up and any single would mean an extra base advanced.

    Strategically it just makes way more sense than putting Jeter in the 2 spot. Though I don’t think the Yankees will do it, because Jeter has always trumped strategy.

  70. austinmac February 23rd, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    Blake,

    That is a good idea about Ellsbury. I have a feeling he is going to show power again this year.

  71. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 23rd, 2014 at 4:54 pm

    YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    What a glorious day it’s been. I must be living right! :)

    I went to early mass and then to Target to buy a popcorn popper. I spontaneously decided to car shop and so got on the highway and stopped on one of the major roads that has endless car dealerships. When I was finished, I ended up right near one of the movie theatres and went in to see what the movies/times were. Wolf of Wall Street was showing 10 minutes later and so I went to see it. (No idea it was three hours! Good thing or I never would have done it.) Very good movie! Then I get in my car and hear about Brett Gardner’s contract extension!!!!

    I AM SOOOO HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’ve wanted the Yanks to keep Brett Gardner, so this is unbelievable.

    So far this off season I’m batting 1000 in terms of my happiness list! I was happy the Yankees didn’t commit to a crazy contract with Robby (though I didn’t want to see him go), was thrilled to get Ellsbury and Beltran and didn’t feel like the Yanks overpaid for either, was happy Tanaka came to the Yanks, and am deliriously happy about Gardner!

    I must be living right or something.

    :D

  72. I am Brett Godner February 23rd, 2014 at 4:59 pm

    “I said before but Gardner is a patient bat who will give Ellsbury a lot of time to steal. Ellsbury is an aggressive base stealer”

    I like the idea of Godner leading off because he sees a lot of pitches, but this actually might make more sense.

  73. blake February 23rd, 2014 at 5:00 pm

    Mac,
    Id go

    Gardner LF
    Jeter SS
    Ellbury Cf
    Beltran RF
    McCann C
    Tex 1B
    Soriano DH
    Drew 3B
    Roberts 2b

  74. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 23rd, 2014 at 5:06 pm

    FWIW, I’d bookend Ellsbury and Gardner. Ellsbury in the one hole, Gardner in the 9 – or 8 or 7 even.

  75. Revenge of Stoneburner February 23rd, 2014 at 5:07 pm

    Yeah September ! ! !

    Yankees manager Joe Girardi thinks new minor-league signee Andrew Bailey can help them in the late innings, but probably not until September, Jack Curry of the YES Network tweets. The former Athletics and Red Sox had labrum surgery last July.

  76. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 23rd, 2014 at 5:07 pm

    Latest update, FYI (and additions or changes, if any!)

    2014 YANKEE PREDICTION CHART

    1/23 Cashmoney 163
    1/24 RayVT 108
    1/23 Trisha 101
    1/24 Hunger Games 101
    2/4 Mottsx 99
    1/22 Kelvin 98
    1/24 Blojaldo 97
    1/22 Poetkiosk 96
    1/23 bbb1 96
    1/24 Howler 96
    1/29 Mike-Boston 96
    2/4 DaSaint007 96
    1/23 Chicken_Stanley 95
    1/23 nettles9nc 95
    1/25 Melkman is in hotlanta 95
    1/29 rm 95
    2/4 Hanks Bar 95
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  77. Jerkface February 23rd, 2014 at 5:11 pm

    I like the idea of Godner leading off because he sees a lot of pitches, but this actually might make more sense.

    Ellsbury isn’t as patient as Gardner. They have similar OBP because of Ellsbury’s higher AVG, but he sees way less pitches per PA. So I don’t like Gardner 1, Ellsbury 2, or Gardner batting before Ellsbury in any fashion. I posted the stats about Gardner stealing and while he doesn’t take as long as some people think he is still more likely than Ellsbury to steal on 2nd or 3rd pitch, and I don’t know if Ellsbury will give him that kind of time.

  78. Jerkface February 23rd, 2014 at 5:11 pm

    I like the Andrew Bailey signing as its zero risk, but geez when is that guy gonna pitch? I still want 1 more veteran arm for the pen…

  79. austinmac February 23rd, 2014 at 5:12 pm

    Blake,

    Glad to see you snuck in Drew. Maybe Hal won’t notice.

  80. austinmac February 23rd, 2014 at 5:14 pm

    Bailey seems to have had the same surgery as Pineda. I’m not much hopeful this year.

  81. blake February 23rd, 2014 at 5:14 pm

    Jerkface says:
    February 23, 2014 at 5:11 pm
    I like the Andrew Bailey signing as its zero risk, but geez when is that guy gonna pitch? I still want 1 more veteran arm for the pen…

    I’m not even sure who is left other than Hanrahan

  82. Revenge of Stoneburner February 23rd, 2014 at 5:14 pm

    This is one for you Mr. Bailey

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs069dndIYk

  83. Jerkface February 23rd, 2014 at 5:17 pm

    Also now I can’t wait until monday and we learn where Diaz is going to sign. I have no idea what he is going to do in the majors but he does represent someone with upside, so get him in here.

    The Arrubarruena signing was 25 million / 5 (no opt out known yet) with a 7.5 million signing bonus. So if we think of the signing bonus like any other IFA prospect, its really like a 17.5 mil contract for 5 years which is 3.5 per year. So the Dodgers valued a guy with no bat and less defense than Jose Iglesias at a utility level of around 3 million per year.

    Diaz is supposed to have more bat and less glove so what kind of contract could he get? Will he get an opt out or will the Yankees retain their full 6 years of control?

  84. Jerkface February 23rd, 2014 at 5:21 pm

    The Gardner extension also really owns because it takes place after this year so if you include this year its like a 6/58 deal or so which is only a 9 AAV with an option in the end. Very nice deal for the Yankees, and the lack of a no trade clause is a big win too!

  85. blake February 23rd, 2014 at 5:21 pm

    Wonder where Diaz will rank amongst Yankee prospects if they sign him? Has to be top 5 if not 2nd right?

  86. Tar February 23rd, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    “For the same money… Brandon Phillips could be at 2nd base and Nelson Cruz could have been in left field,

    That sounds a lot better than Gardner and Roberts.”

    Not really. Gardner’s new contract doesn’t start until next year. This year he’s at 5.6 mil

  87. blake February 23rd, 2014 at 5:23 pm

    I think it’s possible Gardner wanted to get the extension done because he might be one of those guys that a QO hurts…..I could see how it could have hurt his market next year. It’s a good deal for both sides and I’m glad that he’s staying…..

  88. AAA February 23rd, 2014 at 5:24 pm

    Bailey seems to have had the same surgery as Pineda. I’m not much hopeful this year.

    =========================

    Neither is the team. Girardi and Cashman said September is a possibility.

  89. blake February 23rd, 2014 at 5:25 pm

    Basically it sounds like the yanks are just paying to rehab Bailey in holes he can help at the end of the year…..it’s fine…..they should sign Hanrahan too as his injury is a little more predictable and he could be back sooner

  90. Locke February 23rd, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    I agree Blake. The QO really has hurt the mid range FAs. I recently wondered if he might be one of the first playea to take the QA. Glad he’s here for the next five years.

  91. AAA February 23rd, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    The Gardner extension also really owns because it takes place after this year so if you include this year its like a 6/58 deal or so which is only a 9 AAV with an option in the end.

    ===================================

    Not according to Cashman. New CBA apparently dictates that the extension doesn’t count til next year.

    See Chad’s Point #5 above.

  92. Tar February 23rd, 2014 at 5:27 pm

    “The Gardner extension also really owns because it takes place after this year so if you include this year its like a 6/58 deal or so which is only a 9 AAV with an option in the end.”

    Yeah good way to look at it. Unfortunatly It also make him an even more valuable trade piece this year :twisted:

    /Arroyo’ed

  93. Jerkface February 23rd, 2014 at 5:27 pm

    Was the option on Bailey a team option? Seems like it is similar to when they signed Aardsama ( i think?) where he was more of an option for the next year.

  94. Jerkface February 23rd, 2014 at 5:28 pm

    Not according to Cashman. New CBA apparently dictates that the extension doesn’t count til next year.

    See Chad’s Point #5 above.

    Oh yea I meant generally, not from a luxury tax perspective. Its just a favorable deal to keep Gardner.

    When signing an extension when you’re already under an arb contract the player can always alter the terms of their current deal and Gardner did not do that, so its favorable for the Yankees there.

  95. AAA February 23rd, 2014 at 5:29 pm

    Id bat Ellsury 3rd vs RHP

    =====================

    Why on earth for? He’s not a #3 hitter. McCann or Beltran are far more qualified to hit #3.

  96. Tar February 23rd, 2014 at 5:30 pm

    “Was the option on Bailey a team option?”

    I believe so. Didn’t they kind of get burned on the Dotel rehab?

    Seems like as soon as he was all better, he went to greener pastures. I guess they learned from that mistake.

  97. AAA February 23rd, 2014 at 5:32 pm

    When signing an extension when you’re already under an arb contract the player can always alter the terms of their current deal and Gardner did not do that, so its favorable for the Yankees there

    ===============================

    Yeah, it’s basically amounts to locking to his free agent deal a year early. Doesn’t really save anything, but leaves you one less thing to worry about next winter.

  98. Cashmoney February 23rd, 2014 at 5:34 pm

    in terms of relievers on the mend, I would have prefer O’flaherty and Crain, but Bailey can’t hurt.

  99. blake February 23rd, 2014 at 5:34 pm

    Why on earth for? He’s not a #3 hitter. McCann or Beltran are far more qualified to hit #3.”

    It lengthens the lineup and breaks up the lefties….there isn’t a set definition of what a “3 hitter is”. Id hit Beltran and McCann 4th and 5th where they can drive runs in

  100. blake February 23rd, 2014 at 5:35 pm

    Oh I thought Bailey was just a 1 year deal….that’s even better

  101. I am Brett Godner February 23rd, 2014 at 5:36 pm

    What happened to news of the Cuban pitcher who was show casing with Diaz? Sounded like he was hitting mid 90s on the gun and then you heard nadda. Id look it up myself but damn if the guy didn’t have the longest least rememberable name ever.

  102. blake February 23rd, 2014 at 5:36 pm

    Btw….if I’m Mike Trout I want 6 years max on a contract with the Angels…..I want to be a FA at 28 and that’s where I plan to get my big contract. Id ask for 6/160 of I were him

  103. AAA February 23rd, 2014 at 5:37 pm

    It lengthens the lineup and breaks up the lefties….there isn’t a set definition of what a “3 hitter is”. Id hit Beltran and McCann 4th and 5th where they can drive runs in

    ===========================================

    Not really concerned about it anyway because I know the Yankees won’t do it, but I disagree that it serves to lengthen the lineup at all. Feels like over thinking to me.

  104. Cashmoney February 23rd, 2014 at 5:37 pm

    Sure reads like a lot of folks prefer Beltran and McCann ahead of Tex vs RH pitchers.

  105. AAA February 23rd, 2014 at 5:38 pm

    Oh I thought Bailey was just a 1 year deal….that’s even better

    ===========================

    Wouldn’t be worth it otherwise. Sounds like it will have to be a Lieber type thing for the NYY to get any bang.

  106. blake February 23rd, 2014 at 5:39 pm

    “Not really concerned about it anyway because I know the Yankees won’t do it, but I disagree that it serves to lengthen the lineup at all. Feels like over thinking to me.”

    Well they are going to hit Jeter 2nd…..so this way you get your best hitters in the top 7 spots. I don’t like Gardner hitting 9th…..id rather him leadoff and sandwich Jeter between he and Ellsbury to prevent Loogying late in games

  107. blake February 23rd, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    Cashmoney says:
    February 23, 2014 at 5:37 pm
    Sure reads like a lot of folks prefer Beltran and McCann ahead of Tex vs RH pitchers.

    Id hit Tex 6th or 7th vs RHP…..he needs to be down the lineup unless a lefty is on the hill

  108. Tar February 23rd, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    new one that way———->

  109. AAA February 23rd, 2014 at 5:41 pm

    Sure reads like a lot of folks prefer Beltran and McCann ahead of Tex vs RH pitchers.

    ================================

    Teixiera has been a sub .800 OPS hitter vs. RHP’s since 2009.

  110. blake February 23rd, 2014 at 5:41 pm

    @ChrisCotillo: Source: Andrew Bailey’s 2015 option with the #Yankees is a team option. Security blanket for #Yankees if he’s not ready this year.

    There u go

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