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Monday afternoon notes: Tanaka says he’s ready for games (with video)

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Masahiro Tanaka said he’s not sure how close to game-effort he was during today’s live batting practice session — hard to say whether he was throwing at 70 percent or 90 percent effort — but he doesn’t believe he needs many more practice sessions before he gets into an actual exhibition.

“I just feel that I’m pretty much ready to throw in a game,” he said.

Tanaka was up to 35 pitches this morning — same for CC Sabathia and Hiroki Kuroda — but Joe Girardi said he’s still not ready to announce when exactly Tanaka will get into a game this spring. The weekend seems to be the absolute earliest possibility.

“You’re still trying to see, does a guy want one more BP or does he feel that he’s ready to go?” Girardi said. “It’s not etched in stone. … I think you want to see him out there against big league hitters, see how he does and see how he reacts. I’m happy with the progress that he’s made and how he has not tried to do too much. I think he’s adapted to what we’ve asked him to do, and I think he’s kind of embraced it. I do want to see him out there.”

Girardi said he’s mapping out a spring training rotation that should give Tanaka a few more starts on extra rest than the other guys in the rotation. Tanaka will pitch on four-days rest sometimes, but the Yankees want to ease him into the Major League rotation schedule, which means not forcing him into an every-fifth-day routine from the very beginning.

“I’m just saying he might throw on his sixth day as opposed to another guy might throw on his fifth day,” Girardi said. “They all during the course of the next 35 days, they all have points where they’ll go on their sixth day because you’re trying to build them up as their pitch count increases. Some of it has to do with off days and just getting everything mapped out. He might get one more extra time.”

This is the second time that Tanaka has indicated that he’d like to get into games sooner rather than later.

“Some of the offspeed pitches, there were some swing and misses, so I did feel good about that,” he said. “But it’s really too early to determine (how well he’s doing) at this point in time. … It’s really hard to say what percentage I was going to. All I can say is I was throwing naturally out there.”

Francisco Cervelli, Matt Thornton· Tomorrow is the Yankees spring opener against Florida State. Vidal Nuno gets the start for the Yankees. Girardi said Brett Gardner, Francisco Cervelli and Kelly Johnson are each scheduled to play in the game. Those should be the biggest names in the Yankees lineup.

· Actually, the biggest name in tomorrow’s game might not be one of the Yankees. Heisman Trophy winner Jameis Winston is a pitcher for Florida State. “I imagine he’s going to look pretty big in that uniform,” Girardi said. “I’m excited to see him. It’ll be fun tomorrow. … Obviously he’s extremely athletic. When you watch him play the game of football, he’s got a great arm. He’s pretty mature for his age, as an athlete and what he had to go through and handle, and I’m excited to see him.”

· After watching Tanaka, Sabathia and Kuroda pitch this morning, Girardi said he’s been encouraged by what he’s seen from his top three starters this spring. “Just consistency of location, consistency of maybe a slider or changeup or split; different pitches that they’re working on,” Girardi said. “The first thing you get going is your arm strength, and then you start trying to incorporate your other pitches, and you’re seeing more consistency in those other pitches.”

· Any one thing stand out that Girardi has learned about Tanaka? “His command is really good, of all his pitches, not just his fastball,” Girardi said. “His command is good with all his pitches.”

· By the way, when coaches and players talk about all of Tanaka’s pitches, they’re basically referring to six pitches: four-seam fastball, two-seam fastball, split-finger, curveball, slider and cutter. Tanaka has a changeup, but he rarely uses it. Girardi said he’s literally not seen it a single time this spring. He’s seen Tanaka’s changeup on film, but not in person. “(Using it in games) is up to his discretion and if we feel that he’s needs it,” Girardi said. “I’m not so sure that he really needs it.”

Brett Gardner· Girardi on the Gardner contract extension: “Excited. I like what he brings to the table, offensively, defensively, and just his clubhouse presence. I like it. The way he plays the game, he’s a grinder.”

· Speaking of outfielders, how exactly does Ichiro Suzuki fit into this mix? “We signed a number of outfielders as free agents, and things have a way of working themselves out in spring training,” Girardi said. “Exactly how he fits in right now I can’t tell you, but my job is to keep everyone fresh, healthy, and contributing, and I’ll have to figure that out.”

· Still speaking of outfielders, Alfonso Soriano was in camp today. “I know he was supposed to do some light work in the weight room and some cage work, but I was out watching the pitchers so I’m not sure (what he did),” Girardi said. “He said he feels much better. He was smiling, which was good. He ate and kept it down, which is good.”

· Obviously Soriano is a few days behind the other guys in camp. He won’t play in games right away. “We’ve got to give him a few days to work out and see some pitching,” Girardi said.

· The Yankees spent the afternoon playing pool as a way to get to know one another. You know it’s a non-workout day when Derek Jeter is hanging out in a Michigan t-shirt showing absolutely no signs of trying to get ready for anything remotely baseball related. It seemed that even some of the young guys never had to change into their baseball gear.

· Figured either Eduardo Nunez or Scott Sizemore might get into tomorrow’s game, but both said they didn’t think they were playing tomorrow. Sizemore does sound pretty encouraged by his health and early performance. “Managing to hit a few line drives around there every once in a while,” Sizemore said. “Feeling pretty comfortable at the plate, and I’m sure it will continue to get better the more pitches that I see.”

· Just for the fun of it, I’ll take a total guess at tomorrow’s lineup. This is almost entirely wild guess work:

Brett Gardner LF
Francisco Cervelli C
Kelly Johnson 3B
John Ryan Murphy DH
Zoilo Almonte RF
Russ Canzler 1B
Corban Joseph 2B
Dean Anna SS
Mason Williams CF

Associated Press photos

 
 

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74 Responses to “Monday afternoon notes: Tanaka says he’s ready for games (with video)”

  1. Ys Guy February 24th, 2014 at 4:13 pm

    With only one off-day in the first 3 weeks of the schedule, I am very much in favor of rolling into the season with 6 starters if they all come out of ST healthy. In essence, stretch the competition for the #5 spot into the first three times through the rotation before deciding whom to move out of it.

  2. Howler February 24th, 2014 at 4:14 pm

    I would count Winfield’s deal as a ten year deal that worked out for the Yankees…they just didn’t win anything for him while he was with the team. You can’t blame one player for that not happening though. I’d love to have him on this team at that age right now.

  3. blake February 24th, 2014 at 4:15 pm

    “There were people on this blog before he missed most of last season who were saying that the Yankees should threaten to turn Tex into a platoon player so that he would waive his NTC so the team could ship him out.”

    Well wanting to get rid of him now is a different argument than was it worth it to sign him in the first place…..

    I said you could make the argument that the 2009 WS was worth signing signing him…..you canals that argument and still wish they could get out of the deal

  4. blake February 24th, 2014 at 4:17 pm

    The Yankees have probably made more money off of Arod than they’ll ever pay him….so when you consider that and the fact that he was a huge factor in the 2009 title…..was it worth it ?

  5. bbb51 February 24th, 2014 at 4:17 pm

    Tanaka is bored, he wants to play some baseball.

  6. MTU February 24th, 2014 at 4:20 pm

    Tanaka sounds like a Horse that’s ready to run.

    Stop pulling back on the bit so much Joe.

    Let him have his head for a while.

    ;)

  7. Jerkface February 24th, 2014 at 4:21 pm

    Signing Tex at the time was the right thing to do. It hasn’t worked out as well as was hoped, but that doesn’t change the fact that at the time it was a good decision.

    Truth. My only problem with these bad contracts is whether the Yankees make up for them with other, better players. One of the reasons why I thought 189 was so bogus. Gotta spend that dough. Its crazy that despite inflation and the massive revenue growth of the sport the Yankees have kept a relatively static payroll.

  8. MTU February 24th, 2014 at 4:23 pm

    189 is in Davey Jones locker where it belongs.

    ;)

  9. Against All Odds February 24th, 2014 at 4:32 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue February 24th, 2014 at 3:45 pm
    Against – it’s heartbreaking. That poor innocent little boy is left without any quality of life and his parents are left to have to see their little guy that way every day of their lives.

    Stories like that release me from getting too twisted about what the Yankees do, if you know what I’m saying.

    :(

    ———————

    Yea I know what you mean. It puts things in perspective.

  10. hardwired7 February 24th, 2014 at 4:35 pm

    “Bring it.” – Masahiro Tanaka

  11. Hankflorida February 24th, 2014 at 4:39 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock February 24th, 2014 at 4:05 pm
    Hey Hankflorida: my buddy who saw Joe Gordon play and who is miffed that Cano was let go, lamented that we “don’t have a Gil MacDougald type” to help stitch the infield together. My father used to talk about him, too; I was born a bit late for him.

    I thought you might appreciate that observation.

    I do lament the fact that we do not have a Gil Macdougal type to play which ever position he is need with both the glove and the bat as Roberts, Johnson and an aging Jeter leave a great deal to be desired.. Ask your buddy about some of those ground ball pitchers like Vic Raichi, Eddie Lopat and even Atley Donald who were able to get those ground balls to find the gloves of those exceptional infielders that the Yankees always had.

  12. hardwired7 February 24th, 2014 at 4:45 pm

    How about these crazy #s?:

    over the last 3 yrs, in the NPB, Tanaka went 53-9 with a 1.44 e.r.a.

  13. J. Alfred Prufrock February 24th, 2014 at 4:54 pm

    blake February 24th, 2014 at 4:17 pm

    The Yankees have probably made more money off of Arod than they’ll ever pay him….so when you consider that and the fact that he was a huge factor in the 2009 title…..was it worth it ?
    ///

    Sure. I wouldn’t trade 2009 for anything. And we weren’t just fortuitous and everything breaking right. We were head and shoulders the best team in baseball, and I got such tremendous satisfaction, personally speaking, seeing the greatness fulfilled in a World Series title.

  14. J. Alfred Prufrock February 24th, 2014 at 4:56 pm

    Hank, I’ll see what memories come to mind for him. I’ve heard about those guys from my father, too. :)

  15. tomingeorgia February 24th, 2014 at 5:02 pm

    Hank,
    Neither Gil nor Herb Score were ever the same after that line drive.

  16. blake February 24th, 2014 at 5:06 pm

    “Sure. I wouldn’t trade 2009 for anything. And we weren’t just fortuitous and everything breaking right. We were head and shoulders the best team in baseball, and I got such tremendous satisfaction, personally speaking, seeing the greatness fulfilled in a World Series title.”

    Yea I really love that too…..that really was a great team that year

  17. J. Alfred Prufrock February 24th, 2014 at 5:09 pm

    Jerkface February 24th, 2014 at 3:36 pm

    So what of Cano’s contract? His upside can’t begin to justify it.

    If you sign Cano, barring disaster, you are getting a .900 OPS bat or high .800 OPS bat. The upside is that he is a great hitter with power so maybe he pulls a 1 OPS season out of his butt.

    With Ellsbury you are getting a high .700 OPS bat or low .800 OPS bat and you’re hoping he pulls out a .900 OPS season.

    Basically Cano’s baseline is Ellsburys wishes and dreams.
    ///

    It’s really no wonder that there’s this great big shrug from some people and a wishy-washy “Oh, well! Let’s move on!” kind of mentality to losing Robinson Cano.

    Does everyone watch the games who posts here??

    Because some of these posts would indicate that the answer is “no.”

  18. tomingeorgia February 24th, 2014 at 5:13 pm

    JAP,
    I watch the games, and ten for 240 was a nonstarter.

  19. J. Alfred Prufrock February 24th, 2014 at 5:15 pm

    Joe told me that story and of course I’d heard it from m Dad. I guess Score lost an eye? You feel awful causing such a thing, even though there’s obviously no way to have avoided it.

  20. Cashmoney February 24th, 2014 at 5:19 pm

    It’s really no wonder that there’s this great big shrug from some people and a wishy-washy “Oh, well! Let’s move on!” kind of mentality to losing Robinson Cano.
    ——–
    Alfred, Cano is a mariner. Whether some fans to choose lessen the pain with demonizing the dude or crying a river over it, it literally has nothing to do with anything with 2014 yankees.

  21. Hankflorida February 24th, 2014 at 5:19 pm

    So, I am going to probably mention Cano’s disastrous NOT being here several more times, and then some

    Alfred, I think that you grasped my message about Ellsbury replacing Cano, and that for 153 million dollars, I expect Ellsbury to come close to his 2011 numbers of 32 home runs and over a .300 batting average each year as I expect Cano would have done. To pay Ellsbury twice what Gardener gets and to have them both put up Mickey Rivers numbers would give you every right to mention the departure of Cano if things spiral downward. On the other hand if Cashman’s gamble works out, seven years of a power hitting Ellsbury whose legs can manufacture runs would be a joy to behold. Anyone on the blog who accepts both Gardener and Ellsbury as table setters for the next four years does not comprehend why Colonel Ruppert built the Stadium with the dimensions in right field when he purchased The Bambino from Boston.

  22. J. Alfred Prufrock February 24th, 2014 at 5:20 pm

    tomingeorgia February 24th, 2014 at 5:13 pm

    JAP,
    I watch the games, and ten for 240 was a nonstarter.
    ///

    I watch the games, too: having Cano for the next five years means years 8,9,10 are to be lived with.

    It’s only a “nonstarter” because it relies on hyperbole “10 years!!” rather than logic, to persuade.

    It’s a facile, unexamined argument that just doesn’t fly. Five years of prime-time Cano are worth four years of decline and maybe one where the bottom falls out completely.

    Cano is that good, and the way people talk around here, a few of them don’t really know just how good.

  23. J. Alfred Prufrock February 24th, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    Alfred, Cano is a mariner. Whether some fans to choose lessen the pain with demonizing the dude or crying a river over it, it literally has nothing to do with anything with 2014 yankees.
    ///

    Got everything to do with the 2014 Yankees sucking way more than they had to.

  24. Cashmoney February 24th, 2014 at 5:24 pm

    Got everything to do with the 2014 Yankees sucking way more than they had to.
    ———
    2014 hasn’t even started, i understand you base for an argument in whom you rather choose in giving the contract to. how about we wait?

  25. J. Alfred Prufrock February 24th, 2014 at 5:24 pm

    Hank,

    Sign Tanaka, McCann, Beltran and Cano.

    That’s a World Series frontrunner.

    Ellsbury is a nice player: he’s not approximating Cano’s offense, so forget that right now. Not happening.

  26. J. Alfred Prufrock February 24th, 2014 at 5:27 pm

    Wait for what??

    I’m waiting for these people to find some other hobby than owning the New York Yankees, who would never let a talent like Cano walk.

  27. Cashmoney February 24th, 2014 at 5:29 pm

    Wait for what??
    ——–
    how about waiting the future to unfold before given off your statement is a definitive fact for the something that yet has to occurred.

  28. Cashmoney February 24th, 2014 at 5:30 pm

    I’m waiting for these people to find some other hobby than owning the New York Yankees,
    —–
    unless you are buying the NYY, I hope you realize how futile your hope is.

  29. tomingeorgia February 24th, 2014 at 5:30 pm

    JAP,
    It’s easier to hear you run on about an established all-star than about the next “generational” hitter. I wish we could have kept Cano, too, but we didn’t. Let’s pay ball and see what happens.

  30. J. Alfred Prufrock February 24th, 2014 at 5:34 pm

    tomingeorgia,

    Respectfully, I don’t consider what’s easy for you to digest before I post ;)

    “Seeing what happens” with the baseball season, and discussing why Cano should still be a Yankee, are not mutually exclusive.

    I can criticize the team for fumbling away their best player, who happens to be the best MIF in baseball, and also watch the season unfold.

    It seems my cable company, and MLB network, don’t discriminate when it comes to people who’ll pay for their services, regardless of their particular stance on Robinson Cano.

  31. J. Alfred Prufrock February 24th, 2014 at 5:36 pm

    Futile is a good word for what’s gone on in the FO here since the 2010 season.

  32. tomingeorgia February 24th, 2014 at 5:37 pm

    JAP,
    Much of what you say is easier to egest than digest, with all due respect.

  33. J. Alfred Prufrock February 24th, 2014 at 5:38 pm

    Cashmoney February 24th, 2014 at 5:29 pm

    Wait for what??
    ——–
    how about waiting the future to unfold before given off your statement is a definitive fact for the something that yet has to occurred.
    ///

    What does this even mean? Something has occurred – they let their .900 OPS 2B walk for nothing??

  34. Benny Blanco February 24th, 2014 at 5:39 pm

    JAP,

    I’m curious, how much would you have given cano? 8/235?

  35. pete2 February 24th, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock February 24th, 2014 at 5:20 pm

    “Cano is that good, and the way people talk around here, a few of them don’t really know just how good.”

    A hungry Cano playing for that big deal down the road is a great player. I don’t know how the Cano with a 10 yr deal for 240 million plays. I do remember his worst year ever was following his extension, and then he may have been reminded there is more money to be had. No more contracts to be had for Cano, he can turn into a pumpkin and he still gets his 240 million.

  36. Cashmoney February 24th, 2014 at 5:41 pm

    It means I don’t know for the next ten years Cano will perform to the standard we are accustomed to in NY, matter of fact, I don’t even know that’s the case for the next 5 years. It also means I don’t how Ellsbury is going to impact the team going forward, whether Cano’s absence can be replace in that duration by a competent or good 2b going forward.

    it means i rather wait and see.

  37. J. Alfred Prufrock February 24th, 2014 at 5:42 pm

    Righto, tom.

    Now where’s that list on your B&B inventory? It’s somewhere in these archives, isn’t it?

  38. J. Alfred Prufrock February 24th, 2014 at 5:44 pm

    it means i rather wait and see.
    ////

    Oh.

    Are you going to be posting anything else while you wait?

    If not, see you in October, I guess.

  39. tomingeorgia February 24th, 2014 at 5:45 pm

    JAP,
    When the estate sale happens, you will be among the first to know.

  40. pete2 February 24th, 2014 at 5:46 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock February 24th, 2014 at 5:24 pm

    “Ellsbury is a nice player: he’s not approximating Cano’s offense, so forget that right now. Not happening.”

    ============================

    Cano has never had an offensive year as good as Ellsbury’s 2011 (his best season was 14 RC below this). The question is can Ellsbury regain his 2011 form. I think he can if his shoulder is full recovered. He still was not 100% last year.

  41. J. Alfred Prufrock February 24th, 2014 at 5:47 pm

    pete2,

    Didn’t he “loaf” down to first in his walk year?

    What’s in store, just turn around and walk back to the dugout? :)

    I mean, I’m not getting your point.

  42. MTU February 24th, 2014 at 5:51 pm

    Cano and Ellsbury should not be compared IMO.

    One does not equate to the other.

    One plays for the Yankees and one plays for Seattle. One is a 2b and one is a CF.

    They have entirely different skills sets.

    Ellsbury was not brought in to try to replace Cano’s production.

    He was brought in on his own merits.

    Just like Robinson will stand on his.

  43. J. Alfred Prufrock February 24th, 2014 at 5:52 pm

    I like Ellsbury as a hitter. He hits nice line drives and I’m sure he’ll drive a few into the short porch.

    Cano is either close to or upwards of .900 OPS in seven of his nine seasons – as a 2B.

    Cano is a rare, rare player. They should have said phttt on the last few years.

  44. J. Alfred Prufrock February 24th, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    Good one, folks.

  45. Locke February 24th, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    I don’t think the Yankees just let Cano get away. They made him a big offer, but at some point you have to learn to say no and not give out 10 year contracts.

    Cano will be 40 at the end of his contract. He’s an amazing player but he isn’t going to be close to worth $24mm a year at the end of that contract.

    It hurt to have a great player leave the Yankees, but I have to think how much it would have hurt for Cardinals when Albert left for more money. He hasn’t been worth his contract even during his first two years. I’m sure the Angels wish that they had said no to that ten year deal.

  46. Jerkface February 24th, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    Not sure Ellsburys 2011 is a form which he is going to regain. Its not like he is a consistent high OPS guy who lost something. Its more likely a career year whose like will not be seen again.

  47. Locke February 24th, 2014 at 5:57 pm

    JAP, I would have been fine with 6yr/$180 for Cano. He’s a great player but these ultra long deals are a huge risk. I’d rather pay them a higher AVV on a mid range deal (4yr-6yr).

  48. Hearn February 24th, 2014 at 6:01 pm

    Cano chose exile in Seattle. His numbers will begin their drastic decline as soon as this year, never mind years 8-10 (the horror…the horror)

    Let go of the ghost people. Start focusing on people who WANT to be here like GGBG.

    Me personally…I’m not going to spend one more second bemoaning a player who turned his back on the greatest franchise in sports because of dollars.

  49. tomingeorgia February 24th, 2014 at 6:04 pm

    Mister MTU,
    What’s past is prologue. Games start. I hope the Mariners lose to us in the ALCS. Moaning about the past (especially when the moaning has been so often wrong) doesn’t do anything to help us. We are what we are, and that’s pretty good. Go, Yanks!

  50. austinmac February 24th, 2014 at 6:04 pm

    I don’t think the Yankees or any other team would blow off the last five years of a contract and the $120M they are paying in those years. They probably won’t lose Alex, the pariah, because of his cost of half that.

    If someone wants to say they would have offered $235M, say it and we will disagree. No evidence exists that anything less would have mattered.

  51. Hankflorida February 24th, 2014 at 6:11 pm

    Ellsbury is a nice player: he’s not approximating Cano’s offense, so forget that right now. Not happening.

    Alfred, If Ellsbury does not show the 2011 numbers, then who in their right mind can argue with your critique of signing Cano with Tanaka,’McCaan and Beltran instead of Ellsbury. Having two Mickey Rivers in the outfield and an inferior defense in the infield does not bode well for outscoring your opponent in a stadium built for the home run. The buck stops with Cashman, and he should live or die with his decision to sign Ellsbury over Cano just as other GM’s have suffered the consequences of their decisions.

  52. MTU February 24th, 2014 at 6:14 pm

    Mister Tom-

    Robinson Cano is a great player. But he’s gone. And nothing can change that.

    I’m will miss many things about him.

    I wish him well and hope that he has much success in Seattle.

    That said, I hope Ellsbury has many great years playing for us.

    I don’t compare the 2 players. In fact I don’t like comparing in general.

    I am not a big believer in the past. I look to the future.

    I see no reason why ours can’t be a bright one.

    We made a lot of progress this OS and I look forward to more in the future.

  53. austinmac February 24th, 2014 at 6:14 pm

    Tom,

    Study the past to learn for the future. Lesson–try to extend early. We have learned from Darvish and the Cubans, I think. But, to simply bemoan with no purpose seems akin to banging one’s head against the wall. It serves no purpose.

  54. Blojaldo February 24th, 2014 at 6:16 pm

    After signing a ten year guaranteed deal would Cano have played his heart out for the Yankees? I think that is far from a certainty. Character is a more than valid criteria to consider before you hand someone $200+ million dollars. Great player? Yes. Moving on.

  55. austinmac February 24th, 2014 at 6:16 pm

    Make no mistake, I will miss Cano, but at I can’t wait for a game. We have a millions questions and a million hopes. I’m crossing my fingers and am excited.

  56. austinmac February 24th, 2014 at 6:17 pm

    Hank,

    $235M? Would you or wouldn’t you?

  57. chicken_stanley February 24th, 2014 at 6:22 pm

    Good afternoon/evening all!

    I intend this to be my last Cano post… ever!

    I wish Robbie was still wearing pinstripes; unfortunately he’s not. Who’s to blame? We can speculate till the cows come home but the fact of the matter is: not a single person among us REALLY knows the true story (unless there are some posters with inside connections). We may eventually know the specifics, maybe not.

    Was it the correct decision to not match the M’s offer? We all have our opinions (to be honest, I thought there was less risk in offering Cano a 10 yr deal than most) but none of us will know for sure until the contract unfolds.

    I have favorite players and wish for them to succeed as Yankees… at the end of the day, however, my allegiance is with the team. For those of you that feel differently, I understand completely – divergent opinions make this board interesting

    I’m ready to see what the current roster can do… just my thoughts.

  58. MTU February 24th, 2014 at 6:24 pm

    Mac-

    We did damn good.

    We could always go further.

    If I could change one thing it would be to maximize the IF D so as to take advantage of the
    GB tendencies of our SP.

    Bit of a mismatch there IMO.

    But it should not be fatal. It might even surprise towards the positive.

    I’ll have to hope for that and that Patrick and Blake are wrong about it.

    ;)

  59. tomingeorgia February 24th, 2014 at 6:24 pm

    austin,
    Who can argue with an extension in prime years that gives a player a chance to get a bigger payoff at the end?

  60. MTU February 24th, 2014 at 6:37 pm

    Mets interested in Nick Franklin.

    MLBTR

  61. Hankflorida February 24th, 2014 at 6:38 pm

    Austinmac,, I am giving Cashman the benefit of the doubt in signing Ellsbury for over twenty million if he thinks the guy can give him power numbers, but if Cashman considers both Gardener and him to be table setters, then the Yankees would have been better off matching Seattle’s offer and going with Cano. Cano will never duplicate his numbers playing in Seattle as he did at the friendlier confines of the Stadium, but Ellsbury has that opportunity to prove his worth with both power and speed. We shall see what transpires, and Cashman’s feet should be held to the fire as he made that choice.

  62. MTU February 24th, 2014 at 6:42 pm

    The Yankees tend not hold people accountable otherwise guys like Newman would have been
    gone long ago.

    Don’t hold your breath on that one.

  63. MTU February 24th, 2014 at 6:44 pm

    Tanaka really excited on the pitching side of things.

    I wish we had an equivalent for our IF.

    Someone young and exciting to watch.

  64. Triple Short of a Cycle February 24th, 2014 at 6:44 pm

    I’m waiting for these people to find some other hobby than owning the New York Yankees, who would never let a talent like Cano walk.

    ———————————
    I could give 2 craps about Cano. He didn’t want to be here so good riddance. Oneill,Bernie,Rivera,Posada and Jeter. those are guys who wanted to be here

  65. chicken_stanley February 24th, 2014 at 6:48 pm

    Triple – speaking of O’Neil, this still gives me goosebumps:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoY3svcKSbc

  66. Cashmoney February 24th, 2014 at 6:49 pm

    Are you going to be posting anything else while you wait?

    If not, see you in October, I guess.
    —–
    Jap, you could post all you want so will I. I was simply pointing out there is a flaw in your expectation of Cano going forward as what can happen in future can not regarded in now as a certainty in terms of his productions.

  67. RadioKev February 24th, 2014 at 6:51 pm

    Jerkface February 24th, 2014 at 5:56 pm
    Not sure Ellsburys 2011 is a form which he is going to regain. Its not like he is a consistent high OPS guy who lost something. Its more likely a career year whose like will not be seen again.
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    It’s hard to say. I mean, watch the tape and you see a guy who looks balanced at the plate, picks his pitches to pull, and hits the ball with authority. I think it was that shoulder that was the problem after 2011. Did it fully heal? Is it just weaker moving forward? Did he change his approach? Who knows. I wouldn’t bet on 2011 Ellsbury coming back to stay, but I am interested to see if Kevin Long can get the power stroke back without giving up the all fields approach.

    To me it’s like when the Yankees traded for Granderson. There was an idea that he could get the power numbers back up, and he did.

  68. Doreen February 24th, 2014 at 6:52 pm

    Cano wanted 10 years. He did not move on that. It wasn’t the annual salary for either party. It was the years. Even if the Yankees had gone to 8, I doubt Robinson takes it. Ther last offer to the Yankees was 10/235.

    It stinks, but it is what it is.

    And no one will ever convince me that an offer of $25 million per for 7 years is not a serious offer. I don’t consider myself a Koolaid drinker, and I think it’s ridiculous to talk that way about people. Michael Kay was far from the only person talking about the half-hearted run on grounders. A lot of the people I know had been mentioning it before last year. Robinson is just so good otherwise that mist shrugged their shoulders and moved on.

    My take on Michael Kay is that he tries too hard to avoid being called a “homer,”. And that is why he from time to time picks a topic that goes contra-Yankee. Kay jumped on the bandwagon well after the beat reporters started it.

    He’ll be missed. But I’m sure he’s moved on….

  69. MTU February 24th, 2014 at 6:54 pm

    Kevin-

    Unfortunately the short porch entices many players to become pull happy.

    I hope Ellsbury does not succumb as many others have

    Long encourages it with his net drills.

  70. Triple Short of a Cycle February 24th, 2014 at 6:59 pm

    Triple – speaking of O’Neil, this still gives me goosebumps:

    ____________________________

    I love that video. Something Cano will never get to experience

  71. MTU February 24th, 2014 at 7:02 pm

    Pollo Stanley alert ——–>

  72. blake February 24th, 2014 at 7:07 pm

    “And no one will ever convince me that an offer of $25 million per for 7 years is not a serious offer. I don’t consider myself a Koolaid drinker, and I think it’s ridiculous to talk that way about people. Michael Kay was far from the only person talking about the half-hearted run on grounders. A lot of the people I know had been mentioning it before last year. Robinson is just so good otherwise that mist shrugged their shoulders and moved on.”

    Here’s the thing…..I do think it was a serious offer….it’s not like it was a fake offer they would have pulled back if he had said yes….but at the same time I think it was an offer they knew he wouldn’t take. As I’ve said from the start…..if they never intended to go above 200 million to keep cano then they never were really serious about keeping him and they should have known he would be gone.

    My issue with Kay is that he acts like the Yabkees went all out and Cano just chose to go elsewhere…..he paints the picture like that was a fair offer and all cano was worth…..the truth is that a player is worth what the market says they are worth and the Yankees chose to pass and not pursue him all out……Kay pushes the yankees’a agenda for them….he’s been doin it for awhile now

  73. Jerkface February 24th, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    And no one will ever convince me that an offer of $25 million per for 7 years is not a serious offer.

    Well for one they never offered 7/175. They offered 7/160something. But you’re right, thats a big league contract offer. The thing is it was not an offer that was ever going to win the player. For an elite player, that offer was not going to cut it. It was only a serious offer in a vacuum. I’m sure they would have loved for Cano to accept it, because it would have been on their very team friendly terms. They never made an offer designed to win Cano back.

    Like I said, its the kind of offer an Orioles or some other team makes so they can say ‘we made an offer’ but not actually sign the player.

  74. Ys Guy February 24th, 2014 at 10:05 pm

    another turrabull knicks loss…

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