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Saturday morning notes: Austin hopes to swing again on Monday

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 01, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

AustinAfter a series of tests on his sore right wrist, outfield prospect Tyler Austin received an injection yesterday and hopes to resume throwing and swinging a bat on Monday.

“I’m pretty optimistic about it,” he said. “I’m feeling good.”

After a breakout 2012 — when he shot from Low-A to Double-A in a single season — Austin underperformed last year, and the wrist might have had a lot to do with it. He tried to play through the soreness for a while but was eventually shut down and diagnosed with a bone bruise. He tried to play again in the Arizona Fall League, but wound up back on the shelf after feeling discomfort again. Back to baseball drills in January and feeling good heading into spring training, Austin began experiencing some soreness after a few days in big league camp.

The hope is, obviously, that this is just a minor bump in the road, but it’s obviously been a recurring problem. Austin went through a series of tests earlier this week to determine whether there’s something seriously wrong, but that doesn’t appear to be the case. He said he wasn’t sure of the exact diagnosis, he’s simply following the Yankees medical advice on how to deal with it (he also said the injection wasn’t cortisone, but presumably something similar).

Austin sounds encouraged, believing he could be swinging a bat again in a few days.

Masahiro Tanaka· Aside from Chase Whitley joking that he can’t understand why there’s so much media here on a day he’s not pitching, this was a very quiet morning in the Yankees clubhouse. Nothing particularly unusual about it, just a bunch of guys going about their business while everyone else awaits the spring debuts of CC Sabathia, Hiroki Kuroda and — of course — Masahiro Tanaka. Believe it or not, there were multiple players in the Yankees clubhouse who didn’t realize all three of those guys were throwing today. Position player truly have little clue what the pitchers are doing on any given day, and vice versa.

· Matt Thornton was scheduled for a simulated game this morning. He was pitching to Gary Sanchez, facing Corban Joseph and Austin Romine. In terms of building arm strength, I assume that counts as roughly his first spring appearance (though sim games seem to carry less weight with relievers than with starters).

· Two pitchers threw bullpens this morning: David Phelps (to Jose Gil) and Jim Miller (to Francisco Arcia). At this point, guys are basically throwing bullpens as a part of their regular between-outings schedule.

· Yet another day with a catcher at DH, another catcher playing some first base, two catchers getting time behind the plate, and likely another catcher getting a DH at-bat or two off the bench. Some of that is simply because the Yankees have so many catchers in camp, but it’s been pointed out that this feels like the Yankees showcasing their catching depth.

· As expected, Alfonso Soriano is on the travel list for tomorrow. He will be making his spring debut. Brian McCann, who has been playing with the group making tomorrow’s trip, is not on the travel list and is instead getting a DH day today.

· Two very different former Yankees who made the trip with the Phillies for today’s game: Outfielder Bobby Abreu is in the Phillies lineup in right field; shortstop Reid Brignac is on their bench. I had totally forgotten Abreu was in Phillies camp, and I’m not sure I ever knew that Brignac had signed with them.

John Ryan Murphy· Today’s second string: C John Ryan Murphy, 1B Jose Gil, 2B Addison Maruszak, SS Dean Anna, 3B Yangervis Solarte, LF Zoilo Almonte, CF Antoan Richardson, RF Adonis Garcia

· Today’s scheduled relievers: Hiroki Kuroda, Masahiro Tanaka, Cesar Cabral and Dellin Betances (Robert Coello, Chris Leroux and Yoshinori Tateyama are also listed as available relievers if necessary).

· Batting practice groups:
Group 1: Derek Jeter, Brian Roberts, Ichiro Suzuki, Francisco Cervelli
Group 2: Brett Gardner, Kelly Johnson, Corban Joseph, Brian McCann
Group 3: Zoilo Almonte, Mason Williams, Jose Gil, John Ryan Murphy
Group 4: Dean Anna, Adonis Garcia, Antoan Richardson, Yangervis Solarte
Group 5: Carlos Beltran, Russ Canzler, Jacoby Ellsbury, Alfonso Soriano
Group 6: Eduardo Nunez, Brendan Ryan, Scott Sizemore, Mark Teixeira
Group 7: Ramon Flores, Jose Pirela, Zelous Wheeler, Austin Romine
Group 8: Addison Maruszak, Francisco Arcia, Pete O’Brien, Gary Sanchez

· Tomorrow’s travel squad to Dunedin:
Pitchers: Bruce Billings, Dan Burawa, Matt Daley, Shane Greene, Chris Leroux, Fred Lewis, Bryan Mitchell, Mark Montgomery, Vidal Nuno
Catchers: Francisco Arcia, Jose Gil, John Ryan Murphy, Pete O’Brien, Austin Romine, Gary Sanchez
Infielders: Dean Anna, Russ Canzler, Corban Joseph, Eduardo Nunez, Jose Pirela, Brendan Ryan, Yangervis Solarte, Zelous Wheeler
Outfielders: Carlos Beltran, Jacoby Ellsbury, Ramon Flores, Adonis Garcia, Antoan Richardson, Alfonso Soriano, Mason Williams

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165 Responses to “Saturday morning notes: Austin hopes to swing again on Monday”

  1. Blojaldo March 1st, 2014 at 9:53 am

    It’s been said before but warrants repeating early and often. Kudos to Chad for the best spring training coverage I have ever seen. What I particularly like is not only the play-by-play but the color commentary; insight into what players are thinking, feeling and saying. And, the coverage of the non-stars in camp, those fighting for a roster spot and those who won’t make the team but may play a role down the road.

  2. jmills March 1st, 2014 at 9:54 am

    Chad’s great.

  3. Deal With It March 1st, 2014 at 10:00 am

    The locker room chatter & stuff is off the charts, where else are you gonna get insight and comments like this ?

  4. Chad Jennings March 1st, 2014 at 10:03 am

    Thanks guys. I appreciate it.

  5. Tar March 1st, 2014 at 10:03 am

    Hey My buddies are all here.

    Watch it now……. the Blog cop is on duty!

    HAHA

  6. Cashmoney March 1st, 2014 at 10:04 am

    His Prime time walks the pave roads of humility, he is compelled to display his rarefied skills only in time of dire needs requested by his fellow field comrades.

  7. jmills March 1st, 2014 at 10:04 am

    Chad can you get me a job doing radio colour for the Jays? There’s an opening. I promise to stay on topic.

  8. Tar March 1st, 2014 at 10:05 am

    Chad

    WCYF / Bloj-Aldo left out that he wanted to thank you for not banning him again. We all appreciate the fact that he gets a second chance because after all he has apologized for tormenting posters like Betsy….oh wait.

  9. Oscar Madison March 1st, 2014 at 10:05 am

    As ole’ Blue Eyes would say …………..

    ‘It’s gonna be a very good year’ ! ! !

  10. Tar March 1st, 2014 at 10:07 am

    But we do agree your coverage is not only great…. but somehow seems to get better and better.

    SO thanks!!

  11. MTU March 1st, 2014 at 10:07 am

    Chad has connections because of all those years covering the Minors.

    ;)

  12. Oscar Madison March 1st, 2014 at 10:07 am

    Loved that comment by Whitley on the last thread about the media.

    Seriously where else would you hear stuff like that ?

    Sweeney Murti ? Mark Feinsand ?

    Probable not ………..

  13. CountryClub March 1st, 2014 at 10:08 am

    Austin’s wrist is worrisome. He just came back from months of rest and it became an issue immediately. I’m not sure why they think a shot is going to clear it up. But, I hope I’m wrong.

  14. CountryClub March 1st, 2014 at 10:09 am

    @jaysonst: Japanese media confirm that Tanaka/Kuroda/Ichiro presence makes this biggest ST game in Japanese history. On 3 channels in Japan at 3 a.m.

  15. Blojaldo March 1st, 2014 at 10:14 am

    Good job disrupting a positive thread Tar with your usual nonsensical delusional comments.

  16. Cashmoney March 1st, 2014 at 10:16 am

    OT, interesting cover of Biz markie’s classic

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYRhtO_–8E

  17. Cashmoney March 1st, 2014 at 10:19 am

    Austin’s wrist is worrisome.
    ——
    Aint much you and I can do about it, but yeah…

  18. Baby Ruth March 1st, 2014 at 10:23 am

    I don’t know much about what it takes to be a successful sport writer but I am guessing that it is based on trust and the the the relationship one builds with the players allowing them to have a comfort zone in speaking with particular a writer(s)

    Getting locker room quotes and insight is something you don’t see a lot of

    Chad provides a good deal of that which I like very much, my being just a fan

  19. bigdan22 March 1st, 2014 at 10:23 am

    The Austin situation reminds me of that definition of insanity. Einstein frequently gets credited for that quote but I’m not sure that’s entirely accurate.

    It’s good to listen to what management says during ST but sometimes it’s more important to watch what they do. So two things:

    –It’s pretty clear from the first few lineups that the Yanks really don’t have a backup for Tex. If so, I think we’d have seen him by now. Like somebody on the roster.

    –Something is going on with Pineda. I saw a note somewhere that his first game may be next Friday. If that’s the case, his competitors would have two laps on him. I think they are worried about the gun. The first inning he gets in, everyone is going to be looking at those readings. As long as he’s pitching simulated games and BP, no one knows how hard he’s actually throwing. Girardi was quoted yesterday saying something like “he’s big guy and needs some time to build up arm strength.” We shall see soon enough.

  20. MTU March 1st, 2014 at 10:23 am

    Injuries are always treated conservatively at first.

    Surgery is seen as a last resort.

  21. Tar March 1st, 2014 at 10:24 am

    WCYF- Bloj-ALdo

    It sucks to have someone harassing your posts doesn’t it? Now just think what you and your minions did to Betsy and Trish.

    Here’s my offer to you… change your incredibly juvenile and offensive handle, apologize to the women that you tormented, and I will stop.

  22. Oscar Madison March 1st, 2014 at 10:25 am

    Tar March 1st, 2014 at 10:05 am

    Seriously ? ?

  23. Revenge of Stoneburner March 1st, 2014 at 10:27 am

    MTU –

    What do you think of Jake Lamb – would you be open to getting him back in a deal with the D’backs?

    http://www.baseball-reference......211;002jac

  24. Blojaldo March 1st, 2014 at 10:28 am

    Tar, once again you pollute a baseball conversation with your completely delusional tripe. I will now put you on permanent ignore, say and post whatever you want whenever you want, I will never respond again. I talk baseball here, I won’t enable acerbic trolls like you anymore.

  25. Baby Ruth March 1st, 2014 at 10:28 am

    Oops ……..

    Too many ‘the’ in that last one

  26. blake March 1st, 2014 at 10:29 am

    Lets stop fighting and get ready to watch Nunez play

  27. Blojaldo March 1st, 2014 at 10:30 am

    I don’t wish this, but just for grins, imagine the entertainment value here if Tanaka gets lit up today.

  28. MTU March 1st, 2014 at 10:31 am

    Stones-

    Not familiar w him.

    #’s look great but has only progressed to A+ ball so far.

    OBP #’s are crazy good.

    Is he an IF’er ?

  29. Cashmoney March 1st, 2014 at 10:32 am

    Lets stop fighting and get ready to watch Nunez play
    ——–
    His Prime Times approves this message. Get ready to be ‘shocked and awed’.

  30. UpState March 1st, 2014 at 10:32 am

    blake March 1st, 2014 at 10:29 am
    Lets stop fighting and get ready to watch Nunez play

    ============================

    …in the sand, in the desert, in ……….Arizona !

  31. Tar March 1st, 2014 at 10:33 am

    Blake

    Please address him by his proper name “prime time”. :twisted:

  32. Deal With It March 1st, 2014 at 10:34 am

    Here you go …………… :lol:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yopNkcDzQQw

  33. Tar March 1st, 2014 at 10:35 am

    Morning Upstate

    Hey I missed the last Carolina / Duke game…who won?

    :evil:

    Sorry I couldn’t resist. :D

  34. blake March 1st, 2014 at 10:35 am

    Sorry….prime time is playing today so lets call a truce and enjoy

  35. MTU March 1st, 2014 at 10:35 am

    This is ST.

    Whatever MT does at this point is not all that meaningful.

    That is in the positive or negative direction.

    He has the goods and whether they show now or later they will show.

    There is a reason everyone and his Mother was tripping all over themselves to try and sign him.

    The reason(s) will become evident soon enough.

    I have no worries about Tanaka. Zero, zippo, nada.

    :)

  36. Oscar Madison March 1st, 2014 at 10:36 am

    blake March 1st, 2014 at 10:29 am

    Lets stop fighting and get ready to watch Nunez play

    ============

    +1

  37. Tar March 1st, 2014 at 10:37 am

    Bloj/ WCYF ignoring me = him using multiple screen names and minions to respond.

    So predictable.

  38. austinmac March 1st, 2014 at 10:38 am

    I agree. Chad you gives us more information than any other source, by far. I love it. Thanks. You do go above and beyond.

  39. UpState March 1st, 2014 at 10:38 am

    Tar March 1st, 2014 at 10:35 am
    Morning Upstate

    Hey I missed the last Carolina / Duke game…who won?

    :evil:

    Sorry I couldn’t resist. :D
    =======================

    Never a problem !

    Calendar Alert : March 8th….Home, this time !

  40. Baby Ruth March 1st, 2014 at 10:38 am

    ‘I won’t enable acerbic trolls like you anymore’

    ———–

    Hilarious ! ! :lol:

  41. Blojaldo March 1st, 2014 at 10:39 am

    Showcasing Nunez today for scouts from the Hiroshima Toyo Carp and Hokkaido Nippon Ham Fighters.

  42. Revenge of Stoneburner March 1st, 2014 at 10:39 am

    MTU March 1st, 2014 at 10:31 am
    Stones-

    Not familiar w him.

    #’s look great but has only progressed to A+ ball so far.

    OBP #’s are crazy good.

    Is he an IF’er ?

    ****

    He’s a 3b. Last was his first full season after being drafted in 2012. He will be in AA at 23 – in other words – his 2013 is the best case scenario for Eric Jagielo this year – put up those numbers at High A ball.

  43. Chip March 1st, 2014 at 10:39 am

    Blojaldo March 1st, 2014 at 9:53 am
    It’s been said before but warrants repeating early and often. Kudos to Chad for the best spring training coverage I have ever seen. What I particularly like is not only the play-by-play but the color commentary; insight into what players are thinking, feeling and saying. And, the coverage of the non-stars in camp, those fighting for a roster spot and those who won’t make the team but may play a role down the road.
    ========================

    agree

  44. pkyankfan69 March 1st, 2014 at 10:40 am

    Is it safe to assume that Tanaka will be the 3rd man on the mound today behind CC and Kuroda?… I might miss the beginning of the game, want to at least make sure I am back here before Tanaka pitches

  45. raymagnetic March 1st, 2014 at 10:40 am

    “WCYF / Bloj-Aldo left out that he wanted to thank you for not banning him again.”

    Childish and completely unnecessary IMO.

  46. Tar March 1st, 2014 at 10:41 am

    “Calendar Alert : March 8th….Home, this time !”

    Yeah that will be tough.

  47. UpState March 1st, 2014 at 10:41 am

    Yeah – Nunnie needs to be showcased !

    Like yesterday….what did he do ?

    “0-3″

    …………………….figures, it just figures…….sheeeeeesh.

    (If the Carp want him we can throw in a box or two of worms)

  48. Cashmoney March 1st, 2014 at 10:42 am

    Showcasing Nunez today for scouts from the Hiroshima Toyo Carp and Hokkaido Nippon Ham Fighters.
    —–
    His Prime Time understands that his appeal is universal but is not yet compel leave Western Hemisphere as his work is not yet finish here.

  49. bigdan22 March 1st, 2014 at 10:42 am

    Shame about Ramirez. At this point, the question is not bullpen vs. starter. The question is can he even get on the mound? If this is the same injury that knocked him out two months last year, then he’s totally off the radar for the big club. You have to shut down at least as long as last year and that really puts him at around June. By then he’ll most likely just spend the year in AAA and maybe we see him in Sept.

    Another thing, MRIs are becoming virtually meaningless. Dr. Jobe said as much to me 15 years ago. There was a great article on the front page of NYT about 18 months ago about this. The conclusion was in terms of diagnosis, nothing beats a thorough exam and patient history. Look at Gardner, Hughes, Austin and Ramirez. MRIs told us virtually nothing. It’s the patient you need to listen to.

  50. MTU March 1st, 2014 at 10:42 am

    Stones-

    Thanks. I can see him as part of some sort of package then.

    We need to accumulate young upside IF types.

    Have you checked out Nick Ahmed ?

    The Snakes seem loaded w IF prospects and we are loaded w Catchers.

    Seems like a natural fit.

    ;)

  51. UpState March 1st, 2014 at 10:42 am

    Tar March 1st, 2014 at 10:41 am
    “Calendar Alert : March 8th….Home, this time !”

    Yeah that will be tough.
    =========================

    Just ‘evening out’ the series…since there’s no neutral sites on the schedules !

  52. Tar March 1st, 2014 at 10:43 am

    “WCYF / Bloj-Aldo left out that he wanted to thank you for not banning him again.”

    Childish and completely unnecessary IMO.”

    I don’t pity nor have any sympathy for bullies…just the victims.

  53. Chip March 1st, 2014 at 10:43 am

    Four INF targets:

    1. Danny Valencia 1b/3b. RH power against LHP

    2. Chris Owings – potential SS of the future

    3. Danny Espinosa – young 2b who had a very down year last year and is fighting with Anthony Rendon for the 2b job with the Nats

    4. Jeff Keppinger – veteran who was very good two years ago in his first full time role, has been a solid bench contributor throughout his career, no position with Chicago and making too much to be a bench player.

    Of those guys – I think Ichiro for Keppinger is the deal that makes the most sense as something that could happen early in ST. Valencia may shake loose at the end of Spring Training because he’s out of options.

    If they could get Owings for JR Murphy I would have to do it

  54. DONNYBROOK March 1st, 2014 at 10:44 am

    I’m anxious to see how McCann handles that “best in the world” splitter of Tanaka. Can McCann frame it for called K’s, can he block it with men on, or a runner at 3B? We saw how important this was with Burnett, and if that Tanaka splitter lives up to advanced billing, same goes with him. Could come down to Tanaka needing a “personal caddy”. Could be Cervelli, don’t know, but this is an issue that needs to be put to bed before going North. The goal should be to get Tanaka off to a slam-bang/successful beginning to his Yankee career. As in life, Confidence is Everything.

  55. Oscar Madison March 1st, 2014 at 10:44 am

    CC, Kuroda, Tanaka hurl six shutout innings ?

    How cool would that be to get Yankee Fans pumped up

  56. Tar March 1st, 2014 at 10:45 am

    “Just ‘evening out’ the series…since there’s no neutral sites on the schedules !”

    Only thing I have to say is that the Heels have absolutely nothing to lose in that game. They should be all loosey goosey like.

  57. Oscar Madison March 1st, 2014 at 10:45 am

    CC is the key tho based on how his year ended last year

  58. UpState March 1st, 2014 at 10:46 am

    MT needs a personal catcher ???

    Pirates have one….

    Say Hello to … Chris Stewart !

  59. Tar March 1st, 2014 at 10:47 am

    Baby Ruth March 1st, 2014 at 10:38 am
    ‘I won’t enable acerbic trolls like you anymore’

    ———–

    Hilarious ! !”

    As predicted….Minion or multiple, that is the question?

  60. Revenge of Stoneburner March 1st, 2014 at 10:47 am

    MTU March 1st, 2014 at 10:42 am
    Stones-

    Thanks. I can see him as part of some sort of package then.

    We need to accumulate young upside IF types.

    Have you checked out Nick Ahmed ?

    The Snakes seem loaded w IF prospects and we are loaded w Catchers.

    Seems like a natural fit.

    *****

    Agree on Ahmed – he came over in the Upton trade. He has some pop. Another nice MIF prospect – he could be in AA/AAA this year for us.

  61. Cashmoney March 1st, 2014 at 10:47 am

    Oscar, it’s hard for me to get work up on any ST games, yes it would be cool. It would be interesting to see how T’s repertoire plays against live competition. But let’s face it, it’s March 1st.

    Let’s say T gets bombed, so what…

  62. raymagnetic March 1st, 2014 at 10:47 am

    Tar,

    Enjoy doing what you’re doing. When you repeat the same behavior as someone who you think is a bully or whatever you become just like them.

    You basically degraded this thread to prove a point. The thread started off well enough. Last I have to say about it however. Enjoy!

    On another note, looking forward to 1 o’clock. Didn’t realize I had mlb network until last night. :)

  63. Blojaldo March 1st, 2014 at 10:48 am

    I wonder what if anything might hold up an Owings trade. It seems like the Yankees and Arizona are perfectly matched and you have two GM’s who communicate well with each other. Perhaps they are demanding Sanchez and Cashman is unwilling to give him up?

  64. MTU March 1st, 2014 at 10:48 am

    DB-

    I don’t think you have to worry about Tanaka’s confidence.

    He is supremely confident. It defines him.

    ;)

  65. UpState March 1st, 2014 at 10:49 am

    Tar March 1st, 2014 at 10:45 am
    “Just ‘evening out’ the series…since there’s no neutral sites on the schedules !”

    Only thing I have to say is that the Heels have absolutely nothing to lose in that game. They should be all loosey goosey like.
    ================================

    Always a good rationalization….

    Maybe they should just say ‘we’re a bit tired – we’ll stay home’

    (that would be a good idea….DUKE would rather play College of Charleston that night)

  66. Tar March 1st, 2014 at 10:49 am

    Oscar, it’s hard for me to get work up on any ST games, yes it would be cool. It would be interesting to see how T’s repertoire plays against live competition. But let’s face it, it’s March 1st.

    Let’s say T gets bombed, so what…”

    Exactly. Especially this early into ST. They are all working on diffrent things right now. Stats/results are not very important.

  67. UpState March 1st, 2014 at 10:50 am

    Blojaldo March 1st, 2014 at 10:48 am
    I wonder what if anything might hold up an Owings trade. It seems like the Yankees and Arizona are perfectly matched and you have two GM’s who communicate well with each other. Perhaps they are demanding Sanchez and Cashman is unwilling to give him up?
    ===========================

    Cashman wont get ‘held-up’ — there alot of options that he can work on, that will at least ‘make sense’ !

  68. blake March 1st, 2014 at 10:51 am

    I wonder what if anything might hold up an Owings trade. It seems like the Yankees and Arizona are perfectly matched and you have two GM’s who communicate well with each other. Perhaps they are demanding Sanchez and Cashman is unwilling to give him up?”

    If I had to guess I would say Cash wants Owings and Towers wants to trade Didi …..and that Towers wants Sanchez and Cash is more willing to trade JR or Romine or Cervelli……

  69. MTU March 1st, 2014 at 10:53 am

    Sanchez should not be a sticking point IMO where acquiring good young IF’er’s are concerned.

    You want our best guys you give us yours.

    Pretty simple.

    Each guy’s butt has to hurt a little for it to be a fair deal.

    ;)

  70. Oscar Madison March 1st, 2014 at 10:53 am

    Cash, was just thinking about it in a positive light as I just got back from walking my dogs in a monsoon. Miserable out so I’m really looking forward to staying in and watching the game today

    Good or bad, no negative Nellie here, as you say its just March 1 :)

  71. Cashmoney March 1st, 2014 at 10:55 am

    Understood, Oscar. Finally, green grass and sunny days to come… time to play ball.

  72. blake March 1st, 2014 at 10:55 am

    MTU,
    I agree with you….be hard to deal Sanchez but with the catching depth they have I would to get infield help

  73. DONNYBROOK March 1st, 2014 at 10:55 am

    - bigdan -

    Stop with the “MRI’s are becoming virtually meaningless” BS. They are invaluable when it comes to neck and spinal injuries. I know 1st hand. And name dropping Jobe into your blanket diagnosis gives it No further credence.

  74. Tar March 1st, 2014 at 10:55 am

    Ray

    No moderators means we sometimes have to take things into our own hands. Sorry if you don’t agree with my tactics. For me…. people who want a second chance should show remorse. He obviously doesn’t and I won’t bother you with my reasons why I think that. Have a nice day.

  75. Baby Ruth March 1st, 2014 at 10:55 am

    If the Yankees trade a catcher and or someone for an infielder can’t we move Cervelli in order to give some room to the young guys to step up and prove themselves ?

  76. Blojaldo March 1st, 2014 at 10:56 am

    blake March 1st, 2014 at 10:51 am
    I wonder what if anything might hold up an Owings trade. It seems like the Yankees and Arizona are perfectly matched and you have two GM’s who communicate well with each other. Perhaps they are demanding Sanchez and Cashman is unwilling to give him up?”

    If I had to guess I would say Cash wants Owings and Towers wants to trade Didi …..and that Towers wants Sanchez and Cash is more willing to trade JR or Romine or Cervelli.
    _________________________

    If you really believe in Sanchez keeping him does make sense even with McCann there. It gives him more years to hone his skills in the minors with Tex leaving when his contract is up and MacCann possibly moving to first base. Sanchez will still be only 24.

  77. Blojaldo March 1st, 2014 at 10:57 am

    I can see Sanchez as the Yankees backup catcher as early as 2015.

  78. Oscar Madison March 1st, 2014 at 10:58 am

    Cash, only thing better would be being there with a dog and a beer in hand taking it all in

  79. blake March 1st, 2014 at 10:59 am

    If you really believe in Sanchez keeping him does make sense even with McCann there. It gives him more years to hone his skills in the minors with Tex leaving when his contract is up and MacCann possibly moving to first base. Sanchez will still be only 24.”

    I think the idea in keeping Sanchez is that bats are valuable even if they are blocked…..yanks are pretty left handed in their lineup right now…..Sanchez is a good hope to balance it out in a couple years orayne as soon as 2015

  80. blake March 1st, 2014 at 11:01 am

    Id love for Sanchez to play half the year at AA then get him on up to SWB to hone his skills against Offspeed stuff……if he can do that then he’s in the picture for 2015 as a possible Bu catcher and DH.

  81. dan l March 1st, 2014 at 11:01 am

    You guys need to be cautious when looking at California League numbers…best hitters league in all of the minors. Lamb is interesting but take those numbers may be very inflated so do not compare those numbers with what someone puts up in Tampa.

  82. DONNYBROOK March 1st, 2014 at 11:03 am

    Sanchez should be held for a Blockbuster Deal. Something along the lines of Tulo come July 31.

  83. MTU March 1st, 2014 at 11:04 am

    Murphy might turn out be almost as good as Sanchez.

    You don’t need to keep all of these Catchers.

    If you can get something you need badly you certainly have to consider moving one of them to fill a need.

    Even if it happens to be Sanchez who is only now coming to AA.

    All prospects are suspects until they aren’t.

    ;)

  84. Blojaldo March 1st, 2014 at 11:05 am

    Oscar Madison March 1st, 2014 at 10:53 am
    Cash, was just thinking about it in a positive light as I just got back from walking my dogs in a monsoon. Miserable out so I’m really looking forward to staying in and watching the game today
    _________________

    It’s been pouring here near Napa but no complaints, we desperately need the rain.

  85. blake March 1st, 2014 at 11:06 am

    “Murphy might turn out be almost as good as Sanchez.”

    He might…..Sanchez has a lot more offensive potential though and offense is what costs a ton in free agency.

    I would make the swap for Owings but I would feel nervous about doing it

  86. MTU March 1st, 2014 at 11:07 am

    All living things need water.

    :)

  87. Deal With It March 1st, 2014 at 11:08 am

    We should have made the move for Forsythe before he was moved

  88. DONNYBROOK March 1st, 2014 at 11:08 am

    Seeing this is a position of Scarcity around MLB, and Sanchez hits for power which is scarce in general and at the C position, you do Not give that up for a SS along the lines of Owings.

  89. bigdan22 March 1st, 2014 at 11:09 am

    DONNYBROOK March 1st, 2014 at 10:55 am
    - bigdan -

    Stop with the “MRI’s are becoming virtually meaningless” BS. They are invaluable when it comes to neck and spinal injuries. I know 1st hand. And name dropping Jobe into your blanket diagnosis gives it No further credence.

    ——

    You are right and I’m wrong. My terminology was excessive. If you read that article in the NYT I mentioned, it pointed out that MRIs are extremely useful with tumors. I’m sure many other types of diagnosis as well. But the point of that article and my point was soft tissue and sports injuries. Muscles, ligaments and tendons. That’s where MRIs frequently fail.

    Further, think of Pineda. I read recently that his labrum tear was actually pretty minor. Remember it didn’t show up in his original MRI, but in the later dye contrast MRI. You know why they don’t routinely dye contrast pitchers? Because I bet everyone of them has some type of labrum tearing similar to Pineda’s. But they are all pitching without pain (mostly) and hitting their velocity readings. So this goes back to what I said earlier (or what Girardi said yesterday), you treat the symptoms, not the MRI. It’s the exam and patient history that counts. That’s what Dr. Jobe was telling me 15 years ago.

    All the more reason that Austin most likely needs surgery. Something I pointed out last year. As Jobe said, you don’t need an MRI for that.

  90. DONNYBROOK March 1st, 2014 at 11:10 am

    - Deal -

    Agree regarding Forsythe

  91. MTU March 1st, 2014 at 11:10 am

    Blake-

    I’d make the swap for any high potential young IF’er. Period.

    Might be a guy like Owings. Could be a guy like Castro. etc.

    We need to fill an almost an entire IF next year.

    We’d better get a move on.

    ;)

  92. Tar March 1st, 2014 at 11:10 am

    I agree with Donny.

    Some of us are so desperate to get Jete’s heir… that we are may not be seeing things with 20/20 vision.

  93. Oscar Madison March 1st, 2014 at 11:11 am

    ‘It’s been pouring here near Napa but no complaints, we desperately need the rain’

    =========

    Probably sending another blizzard Eastbound ?

  94. MTU March 1st, 2014 at 11:11 am

    We tried for Forsythe but we were not a match.

    ;)

  95. MTU March 1st, 2014 at 11:13 am

    Tar-

    No one is going to be Jeter’s heir as you put it.

    I’d settle for a good, solid young SS. Period.

    And we need one badly.

    ;)

  96. Blojaldo March 1st, 2014 at 11:13 am

    The bottom line as I see it is that the Yankees with McCann and the aforementioned group in the minors are pretty flush at the catcher position. Baseball logic and common sense seems to suggest you can address a need such as a middle infielder, by dealing one or more of those catchers.

    There is a great risk holding on to prospects and seeing their trade value diminish. If you lose a good one, but get someone good in return, that I can live with.

  97. DONNYBROOK March 1st, 2014 at 11:13 am

    - bigdan -

    Thanks. I get what you meant.

  98. MTU March 1st, 2014 at 11:14 am

    Mr. Jado-

    You hit the nail squarely on the head.

    ;)

  99. DONNYBROOK March 1st, 2014 at 11:15 am

    With Drew out there for 2yrs, there is No reason to act desperate and deal Sanchez for Owings.

  100. Hankflorida March 1st, 2014 at 11:15 am

    I watched Cano being interviewed on ESPN this morning. He echoed King Felix’s love for Seattle and being content to play in such an environment. He felt they had a good pitching staff, but the team may not be there yet as a playoff team. Cano always had that demeanor of being an easy going guy who never took the game home with him, and I still feel he does his damnedness without giving a damn.

  101. Tar March 1st, 2014 at 11:15 am

    Muscles, ligaments and tendons. That’s where MRIs frequently fail.”

    Dan

    I had an MRI on my ankle…it somehow missed a tendon tear. A subsequent DR. (and a wasted year later) said the first MRI was slightly to low to pick it up. WTF! And I only had the second MRI after a nuclear dye contrast ( something like that anyway) told them something was definitely not right.

    So yeah I agree :D

  102. blake March 1st, 2014 at 11:15 am

    I don’t know how realistic Tulo is…..but it’s true if they were to trade Sanchez now then it makes it much less likely to be able to trade for him in the future if the Rockies do make h available

  103. Tar March 1st, 2014 at 11:16 am

    I’d settle for a good, solid young SS. Period.

    And we need one badly.”

    MTU

    We do need one…IMO the badly part hasn’t come into play yet. So I say no to overpaying at least at this point in time.

  104. Deal With It March 1st, 2014 at 11:19 am

    MTU

    Too bad cuz I like his upside

    (as a Fantasy player too :))

  105. Blojaldo March 1st, 2014 at 11:19 am

    DONNYBROOK March 1st, 2014 at 11:15 am
    With Drew out there for 2yrs, there is No reason to act desperate and deal Sanchez for Owings.
    ___________________

    Both Drew and Tulo are expensive and are going to be on the wrong side of thirty and there are injury issues. And Tulo will cost an arm and a leg. It is not desperate at all, but makes good baseball sense to get a young infielder with good upside potential who is cost controlled.

  106. DONNYBROOK March 1st, 2014 at 11:20 am

    Value is value. Sanchez and his blossoming talents are much more valuable than Owings and his talent at SS. Now, if Towers wants to step down a notch in this abundance of talent at the C position the Yanks have, the Yanks should talk some serious turkey. I’m also wondering exactly what Towers has planned in regard to his own Montero back behind the plate.

  107. MTU March 1st, 2014 at 11:21 am

    Tar-

    We have to build almost an entire IF next year.

    So when is the best time to get a head start on that ?

    I say now.

    Nothing extreme in that POV considering the difficulty of the task ahead.

    I do not want to put any more patches on this tire. We’ve had enough of those in recent years.

    Youth and talent is where I want to be.

    And how is it is overpaying when you trade talent for talent ?

    Trade from need to need.

    Love to have you on board.

    But the train is going to leave the station w or w/o you.

    ;)

  108. Tar March 1st, 2014 at 11:24 am

    MTU

    Timing is everything, and patience is a virtue, so don’t worry the Yankees won’t miss the boat. :D

    Give me a minute and I all come up with some more.

  109. Blojaldo March 1st, 2014 at 11:25 am

    DONNYBROOK March 1st, 2014 at 11:20 am
    Value is value. Sanchez and his blossoming talents are much more valuable than Owings and his talent at SS. Now, if Towers wants to step down a notch in this abundance of talent at the C position the Yanks have, the Yanks should talk some serious turkey. I’m also wondering exactly what Towers has planned in regard to his own Montero back behind the plate.
    ___________________

    They said the same thing about Jesus Montero. We have an abundance of talent at catcher and zero at shortstop and second for all intents and purposes. The time to do it is now as you have Jeter’s last year to see if an Owings in the answer. There are no guarantees as predicting prospect performance is a crap shoot but I endorse being aggressive with Arizona. Good trade partners and win-win situations are very hard to come by.

  110. DONNYBROOK March 1st, 2014 at 11:27 am

    - Blojaldo -

    I don’t see 2 yrs of Drew and the draft pick being expensive. And “wrong side of 30″ with 2yrs of Drew is not a big deal either. Sure, Tulo would cost an “arm and a leg”, but I would go after him. I believe based on their continued poor performance and past history of bad deals, the Rocks will look to get out from under Tulo’s contract, and get younger.

  111. Blojaldo March 1st, 2014 at 11:27 am

    But the Yankees do Donny they don’t want Drew.

  112. MTU March 1st, 2014 at 11:29 am

    DB-

    Who said Sanchez is more valuable than Owings ?

    Since when is a C more valuable than a solid MIF ?

    Especially when you happen to have 4/5 catchers and zippo for IF prospects ?

    Sanchez hasn’t even proven himself at a AA yet which is the biggest jump.

    Owings, for example, has already succeeded at AAA.

    He’s ML-ready.

    I don’t see your logic.

    I only use Owings as an example. Maybe he isn’t the best available.

    If he isn’t then we should be seeking someone even better.

    We have built a terrific rotation.

    Now we need to build an IF worthy of it.

    And there is no time like the present to get started IMO.

  113. blake March 1st, 2014 at 11:29 am

    Blojaldo says:
    March 1, 2014 at 11:27 am
    But the Yankees do Donny they don’t want Drew.

    I’m sure Cashman does….Hal won’t let him spend anymore money

  114. MTU March 1st, 2014 at 11:30 am

    tar-

    Thanks for the cliché.

    ;)

  115. Blojaldo March 1st, 2014 at 11:30 am

    MTU – right on the money.

  116. DONNYBROOK March 1st, 2014 at 11:33 am

    - MTU -

    I do Not think there is any question that in general a C is more valuable than a middle IF. Supply and Demand alone warrants this appraisal. Currently, I see Sanchez as probably the Yanks best trade chip. I do not use that chip, at this time, on a player of Owings caliber.

  117. Madrugador March 1st, 2014 at 11:33 am

    Austin shut down last year for wrist problem, shut down in the Arizona Fall League for wrist problem and gets a shot in that same wrist in Spring Training.
    Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity. Someone much smarter than I am said that.

  118. Blojaldo March 1st, 2014 at 11:34 am

    Owings is 22 years old and can play short and second.

    In AAA in 2013 he played in 125 games and had 525 at bats. His slash line was .330/.359/.482/.841 with 180 hits, 12 home runs and 81 RBI’s.

  119. bigdan22 March 1st, 2014 at 11:34 am

    Another thing on Austin. Why on earth is he getting a cortisone (or similar) shot? Anyone whose dealt with sports injuries knows that cortisone doesn’t heal anything. It just reduces inflammation and pain and helps you get back on the field. It doesn’t solve the problem. It will allow him to swing a bat for awhile until he re-aggravates the injury.

    There’s really only two ways to fix a sports injury. Rest or surgery. Well he’s tried rest and treatment at least twice before. Maybe he needs more rest. Like two years. That’s how much rest it took to heal my sports hernia a few years ago. But that only bothered me when I did certain exercises. If I were a professional athlete, I would have opted for the surgery and been back in two months. None of this makes any sense with Austin unless he has some kind of aversion to surgery.

  120. MTU March 1st, 2014 at 11:34 am

    Haven’t the Yankees already run this scenario ?

    Didn’t we trade away a can’t miss C prospect for some we needed badly ?

    Wasn’t Montero rated even more highly than Sanchez is ?

    Was that a mistake ?

    I leave it to you to decide.

    But I am ready to move someone else to obtain some else of value we need.

    And the sooner the better.

    Prospects are either designed to become part of the parent club or to get you someone who will be.

    They are nothing more and nothing less.

    We have 4/5 potential catchers.

    More than enough.

  121. Blojaldo March 1st, 2014 at 11:36 am

    People here there and everywhere are always calling on the Yankees to get younger. Here you have a chance to get a 22 year old shortstop/second baseman who has demonstrated the ability to succeed at the AAA level. He can really hit; his defense is a work in progress.

  122. MTU March 1st, 2014 at 11:38 am

    DB-

    Fine. Then use him on someone who is worthy.

    Point is to use him if you need to.

    He is not untouchable. No Yankee prospect at the moment is.

    Maybe someday ?

    ;)

  123. DONNYBROOK March 1st, 2014 at 11:39 am

    What I don’t like about the Austin situation is the quote above, “He wasn’t sure of the exact diagnosis.” An injury that has hung on this long, and actually put a player on-the-shelf, and he doesn’t know the diagnosis? He knows.

  124. Deal With It March 1st, 2014 at 11:40 am

    MTU

    ‘We have to build almost an entire IF next year’

    ===========

    But isn’t the new, improved and revitalized Arod coming back next year ?

    Riding in on his White Horse ?

    :lol:

  125. MTU March 1st, 2014 at 11:40 am

    I have to split soon.

    Errands to run before the game.

  126. UpState March 1st, 2014 at 11:41 am

    blake March 1st, 2014 at 10:51 am
    I wonder what if anything might hold up an Owings trade. It seems like the Yankees and Arizona are perfectly matched and you have two GM’s who communicate well with each other. Perhaps they are demanding Sanchez and Cashman is unwilling to give him up?”

    If I had to guess I would say Cash wants Owings and Towers wants to trade Didi …..and that Towers wants Sanchez and Cash is more willing to trade JR or Romine or Cervelli……
    ================================
    Good summary.
    Rather not have DiDi.
    Cashman & Co. have to choose who they feel in the LR will be more valuable JR or Sanchez, and stick with that decision….while hopefully learning from the Montero saga.

  127. DONNYBROOK March 1st, 2014 at 11:41 am

    Sanchez’s age would make the “getting younger” issue irrelevant in regard to Owings.

  128. MTU March 1st, 2014 at 11:42 am

    Deal w it-

    Now that is funny.

    He is a centaur after all.

    :)

  129. Baby Ruth March 1st, 2014 at 11:44 am

    CC and the Yanks roll, have a great day all !

  130. UpState March 1st, 2014 at 11:45 am

    DONNYBROOK March 1st, 2014 at 11:39 am
    What I don’t like about the Austin situation is the quote above, “He wasn’t sure of the exact diagnosis.” An injury that has hung on this long, and actually put a player on-the-shelf, and he doesn’t know the diagnosis? He knows.
    =================================

    How old is he ?
    How patient will the NYY be, based on their projections of his abilities ?
    This appears to be a chronic injury.
    Is this – unfortunately – may be about the end of his trial (hence, the cortisone injection(s)

  131. mick March 1st, 2014 at 11:47 am

    What’s the word on Pineda?
    I hear he can’t reach 97 anymore from Klapisch.
    If so, Phelps will be the 5th starter.
    He would prolly be more reliable.
    Pineda to the pen if need be.

  132. DONNYBROOK March 1st, 2014 at 11:48 am

    They did the cortisone thing with TEX, and we saw how that worked out. Bigdan, has this one. Cortisone actually fixes Nothing.

  133. Deal With It March 1st, 2014 at 11:49 am

    MTU

    That’s what I was thinking but the horse has to be White and he would ride in from the CF gate except the stadium would be empty :lol:

  134. yankinvegas March 1st, 2014 at 11:50 am

    Going to be out and about on a beautiful day her in LV, NV. But I’m DVR’ing the game (as well as Rangers-Flyers). I have no worries about Tanaka, unlike the haters in the media. I also want to see Betances and Cabral.
    I think that we are going to keep 3 lefties in the pen – Thornton, Cabral and Nuno + Robertson, Kelley, Betances and Phelps. If Pineda doesn’t win the 5th starter spot, then Warren goes North and Phelps moves into the rotation.
    Gary Sanchez has too much potential and is still too young to trade for anything other than an equal young talent, not Owings. I would actually settle for Gregorious and offer Romine + a pitcher like Claiborne. For Owings I would offer Murphy straight up or Cervelli and Claiborne

  135. Tar March 1st, 2014 at 11:50 am

    Is today’s game on MLB channel?

  136. bigdan22 March 1st, 2014 at 11:52 am

    I just have a feeling the Yanks are going to wait to next off season to deal with SS.

    I’ve said before, I think the Yanks will do something pretty big about SS. Big trade or big FA acquisition. But they just don’t have the mindset to deal with that now. They have a SS for 2014. And a backup. And of course Nunie.

    Next year, they have Arod for 3b and until he proves to them he’d not healthy enough to play the field, he’s their man. In fact, I expect Arod to come back next year in great shape and with considerably more offensive punch than Jeter will have this year. However, it’s highly doubtful Arod won’t get hurt again but that’s next year’s problem. I think the Yanks will continue to think small at 2b. But I think next offseason, SS will be their one big move (and perhaps closer).

  137. Tar March 1st, 2014 at 11:52 am

    Never mind I found it.

  138. Blojaldo March 1st, 2014 at 11:52 am

    DONNYBROOK March 1st, 2014 at 11:41 am
    Sanchez’s age would make the “getting younger” issue irrelevant in regard to Owings.
    ______________________

    No it wouldn’t, the comparison of age was to Drew and Tulo. And again, the Yankee system has an abundance of catchers. I don’t mind them keeping Sanchez, I like him and there might be a position for him when Tex goes (the Yankees will not re-sign him) and McCann moves to DH or first base.

    BUT – we should turn our catching prospects into an infielder with the potential to be really good and I think Owings fits that bill. If that means dealing Sanchez, I would do it.

  139. mick March 1st, 2014 at 11:55 am

    Why isn’t Sanchez getting the hype Montero got?
    Isn’t he the next great thing.
    Some fool compared him to Munson the other day..

  140. Oscar Madison March 1st, 2014 at 11:57 am

    I hear he can’t reach 97 anymore from Klapisch.
    If so, Phelps will be the 5th starter.
    Pineda to the pen if need be.

    ===========

    I believe it was said he can reach 93-95 now, so if he can’t reach 97 he goes to the pen ?

    It’s March 1st, I think that remains to be seen what happens based on what kind of ST he has

    I also don’t think they traded Montero for a RP (injury aside of course)

  141. mick March 1st, 2014 at 12:00 pm

    Someone also once compared Montero to Ruth, so enough said…

  142. mick March 1st, 2014 at 12:02 pm

    Oscar

    If Pineda isn’t ready, what do you do with him?
    You can send him down or shut him down.
    You can also send him to the pen.

  143. Jerkface March 1st, 2014 at 12:06 pm

    @EricFisherSBJ 18m

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    @EricFisherSBJ 17m

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    Looks like Player FX is finally here! Will be tested this year in 4 stadiums then everywhere in 2015

  144. Oscar Madison March 1st, 2014 at 12:06 pm

    Mick

    My opinion …………

    Healthy and doesn’t make the ML rotation then he goes to AAA in the rotation there

    I think he is an SP if he comes all the way back from the shoulder issue without any other further issues

  145. Blojaldo March 1st, 2014 at 12:06 pm

    And being able to throw 93-95 instead of 97 is a problem why exactly?

  146. mick March 1st, 2014 at 12:08 pm

    throwing 97, as he did in the past vs throwing 93-95 are 2 different pitchers.

  147. UpState March 1st, 2014 at 12:09 pm

    Blojaldo March 1st, 2014 at 12:06 pm
    And being able to throw 93-95 instead of 97 is a problem why exactly?
    =====================

    Seemed like Jimmy Key & Tommy John threw about 80.

    (seemed to work)

    Just imagine these 2 with a “94″ in their arsenal !

  148. Oscar Madison March 1st, 2014 at 12:10 pm

    Mick

    It all depends on his secondary pitches and his command, as I said its March 1st so we will see very soon

  149. Deal With It March 1st, 2014 at 12:11 pm

    Upstate

    Jamie Moyer ? ?

  150. Blojaldo March 1st, 2014 at 12:14 pm

    Off to the store before the game. Should be fun. Ciao.

  151. UpState March 1st, 2014 at 12:16 pm

    Deal With It March 1st, 2014 at 12:11 pm
    Upstate

    Jamie Moyer ? ?
    =====================

    52 MPH….or was that his age ???

  152. UpState March 1st, 2014 at 12:17 pm

    IGG.

    Look forward to everyone’s comments & observations here about the game !

    Enjoy !!!

  153. austinmac March 1st, 2014 at 12:17 pm

    There are two different types of MRIs. One wit and one without some kind of radio graphic dye.

  154. Against All Odds March 1st, 2014 at 12:23 pm

    mick March 1st, 2014 at 12:08 pm
    throwing 97, as he did in the past vs throwing 93-95 are 2 different pitchers.

    ——————-

    True doesn’t mean he still can’t succeed but the allure of Pineda is he lived in the mid 90s and topped out in the upper 90s. The whole point of trading for him was to acquire a hard throwing young cost controlled ace.

  155. Deal With It March 1st, 2014 at 12:25 pm

    Upstate

    He was 48-49 I believe

    So if he had anytype of ‘heat’ to go with his ‘junk’ then he really would have had hitters off balance.

  156. Jerkface March 1st, 2014 at 12:33 pm

    @zacharylevine 13m

    The route efficiency metric might be the coolest part of the MLBAM defensive tracking release. #SSAC14 pic.twitter.com/u4klgpJpTQ

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  157. Jerkface March 1st, 2014 at 12:33 pm

    @zacharylevine 15m

    Also, new MLBAM defensive tracking will provide each fielder’s distance from ball’s destination at contact. #SSAC14 pic.twitter.com/19bdvj527t

  158. J. Alfred Prufrock March 1st, 2014 at 12:37 pm

    MTU March 1st, 2014 at 11:34 am

    Haven’t the Yankees already run this scenario ?

    Didn’t we trade away a can’t miss C prospect for some we needed badly ?

    Wasn’t Montero rated even more highly than Sanchez is ?

    Was that a mistake ?

    I leave it to you to decide.
    ///

    The “can’t miss” part of Montero has always been his bat – not his catching.

    Scouts virtually universally touted his hit/power tools so highly, with the consideration that he wouldn’t stick at catcher – that’s how certain his bat was considered to be.

    I guess I’m also supposed to infer that Montero has already conclusively shown he won’t achieve the elite bat status projected for him; given his age of 24, I’m not buying that at all.

    And what did the Yankees get back that they “needed badly”? A pitcher who has failed to throw a single pitch for the Yankees, and who has now eaten up two years of control in the process??

    I said back in January of 2012 that the Yankees already had pitching, that what they needed was young hitting to offset the age/injury/slow bat/no hit-tool offense Cashman was still calling “fine”.

    Turned out, the Yankees’ pitching was a strength in 2012 with nary a pitch thrown by Pineda, and it was very good again in 2013, until the stress of having no offense took its toll (see Kuroda).

    The Yankees’ greatest need the last two seasons was young contact hitters with some batspeed, rather than the big hacking, back-leg variety “hairy monster” offense they sported in 2012, a lineup some of us warned would be dominated by postseason pitching (see ALCS sweep at the hands of Detroit, in which the Yankees, outside of one CC start, pitched extremely well but couldn’t hit for sh!t).

    If last year’s dumpster diving fiasco didn’t bullseye that the team has been cavalier and a self-scouting disaster in trading away its young hitters (mostly for pitching that has either failed or hasn’t even been healthy enough to fail or succeed), then we’re talking denial on the part of those who missed it; that wouldn’t include Cashman, who since has admitted the offense needed to be fixed.

    Was it a mistake?? Unless you think losing in the ALCS in 2012 – and let’s rephrase: having no chance in the 2012 ALCS – and missing the playoffs in 2013, didn’t matter at all.

    Or outlaying $$$/years on more players in their 30s doesn’t matter, because, as has been said here many times by a handful of people: you cannot sign young high upside/productive bats anymore because their own teams are locking them up: tisk, tisk, they traded all their young bats away.

    Finally, I don’t get your comparison with Montero-Pineda at all.

    Trading a young catcher plus, for a worthy projectable MIF (like Castro) isn’t a bad idea at all; it’s not at all the same as wasting a top-3, elite hitting prospect for a tender-armed pitcher with a limited arsenal and a half season of dominance.

    Personally – I do not move Gary Sanchez. I think Murphy is a talented young hitter and said back when I watched him two years ago in Lakewood that he “can probably hit right now in the majors.”

    I would love to keep both Sanchez and Murphy, but if I had to choose, it’s a no brainer: I keep Sanchez.

    Not that the Yankees agree; knowing them, and the “leaks” about “character issues”, etc, re Sanchez, and just the knowledge that they really are high on Murphy, who has come a long way as a defender to complement his hitting – I would expect the former to be moved (he also will get you more).

  159. J. Alfred Prufrock March 1st, 2014 at 12:44 pm

    bigdan22,

    I saw your response re Gardy and his strikeouts, but couldn’t respond at the time.

    I would just say that he has struck out a fair amount before last season, too, so I’m not that concerned about that.

    Especially since I think he had more “quality” strikeouts, in that he was swinging at pitches he might have just watched go by in the past; definitely swinging at more “strikes” and I like that. He’s locked up for a while, but it’s a big year for him IMO, especially so if he can repeat what he did last year while getting his OBP back up.

  160. J. Alfred Prufrock March 1st, 2014 at 12:46 pm

    I wish Tyler Austin was using something like helichrysum italicum for that wrist problem and not getting shots.

    If not cortisone, what are they putting in there? I don’t like cortisone at all, and I especially don’t like it for a guy who has had c*ncer.

  161. Tar March 1st, 2014 at 1:01 pm

    “Also, new MLBAM defensive tracking will provide each fielder’s distance from ball’s destination at contact.”

    The end of the Jeter has no range meme?

    :twisted:

  162. Tar March 1st, 2014 at 1:02 pm

    In all seriousness JF…that will be great to have and will hopefully put an end to the (IMO) ridiculousness of UZR and the like.

  163. tucker March 1st, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    If the Yanks could get Gregorius for Sanchez, I’d do it in a heartbeat. Sanchez has potential and power, but he didn’t exactly tear it up last year. Unlike Montero, who maintained elite offensive numbers (despite an occasional slump) through all levels, Sanchez appears to have great power but mediocre average/plate discipline. He’s young and can improve, but so far, his offensive skills are not par with Montero’s at the same level.

    Didi already had a solid rookie season at the MLB level. He has great range and an improving bat.

    My guess is Sanchez is not enough to convince Towers to give up a young, const-controlled starting SS who has proven he can start at the MLB level.

  164. J. Alfred Prufrock March 1st, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    Hey Tar!

    So, this is our last look at No. 2. :(

    (I don’t think we crossed paths on that melancholy news).

    May he run through October.

  165. J. Alfred Prufrock March 1st, 2014 at 1:17 pm

    tucker,

    I don’t think Sanchez has the hit tool of Montero, no.

    He has legit power, though, and I do think he will hit for high average.

    I saw a few ABs last year where he didn’t get serious until he was on the ropes, and then he just went all feral focus-wise, protected the plate until he found a pitch he could drill.

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