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Postgame notes: “He did a good job of finding himself”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 08, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Ivan Nova

Despite the double and the walk and the home run, it was easy to understand why the Yankees felt so overwhelmingly positive about today’s spring debut of Manny Banuelos. Find that same sort of silver lining for Ivan Nova was a little more difficult. Facing one of the least imposing lineups in the American League, Nova allowed three runs on eight hits through four innings. Balls were hit hard, and in the early innings they were hit often.

“Everything would stay up,” Nova said. “It was kind of hard for me to keep it down, and they took advantage of it. Even the second inning, they were hitting the ball real good.”

So why did Joe Girardi consider this a step forward?

“You look at his outings so far, they’ve been pretty easy,” Girardi said. “Today I thought was a good outing because he found it. He struggled in the first inning finding some sink and finding his curveball, and I thought he did a good job of finding himself and giving us four innings and really not throwing a ton of pitches.”

In fact, after a 21-pitch first inning, Nova threw so few pitches that he had to throw 10 more in the bullpen when he’d finished his allotment of four innings. Four of the first five batters he faced had a base hit, and the only exception was a hard-hit ball that Zoilo Almonte caught with a dive in left field. He only got out of the inning when Francisco Cervelli threw out a base runner. Three batters into the second inning, the Astros had two more hits and another run.

Second time through the order, though, Nova allowed one hit and pitched around an error. He struck out four of the last 10 batters he faced. He called it a mechanical adjustment, not the kind of mental lapse that has so often given him trouble in the past. His stride was off center, letting him drift toward first base instead of staying true to the plate.

“Make an adjustment in the third and fourth inning,” Nova said. “That’s one of the things you’re looking for in spring training. When you have one or two bad innings, you make adjustments. … When you, like, keep the ball up, for me that doesn’t have to do with nothing mentally. It’s just physical. Maybe your mechanics aren’t the same. Maybe your arm is not there. When I talk about mentally, that’s just a mistake that I make, an unnecessary mistake. Sometimes the catcher has a pitch in mind, I don’t want to go with that pitch, and then I give up a home run. That’s a (mental) mistake.”

Physical mistakes can be cleaned up in spring training, and Nova did that today. The first two innings weren’t pretty, but Nova was focused on those last two innings when he found his mechanics and pitched well again.

Kelly Johnson, Mark Teixeira· Good second game for Mark Teixeira, who doubled sharply to left field and drew a walk. He also made a pretty good charging play on a sacrifice bunt. “I really am knocking off rust,” Teixeira said. “Two days ago, it was just being out there. You’re not used to covering first base, going after foul balls and coming in on bunts, stuff like that. Just continuing to knock off some rust, get my legs in shape, get my swing in shape, try and see a lot of pitches. I’m glad I saw a walk today; that was a good step for me, just seeing pitches. Hopefully I’ll continue to do that.”

· Teixeira still has yet to swing and miss, and he has yet to check his swing. He’s said that both will be significant tests for his surgically repaired right wrist. Today’s double came right-handed, and it’s his left-handed swing that causes the most concern. Even so, Teixeira sounds encourage. “Even better than the other day, which is good,” he said. “No complaints so far.”

· If you’re curious, Teixeira said he’s been taking about 120 swings each day (60 from each side). He used to do more like 140-160 swings each day, and he used to use a weighted bat, but he’s cut back on the reps and he’s dropped the heavy bat altogether. “There are a lot of guys that can go out there and swing 500 times a day,” Teixeira said. “Carlos Beltran swings and swings and swings; I don’t know how he does it. Other guys, all they need is 20 or 30 swings a day and they’re locked in. I’m kind of in between. I’m right in the middle. I need a lot of swings, but I do have to be careful.”

· Kelly Johnson hit his first spring home run in the third inning. He has five RBI this spring. “Honestly, that was pure trying to get him over, and I caught it out front,” he said. “Always good to remember what it feels like. Better than not hitting one all spring and then going into the season trying to remember, ‘Back in September, when I hit my last one…,’ you know what I mean?”

· Just for the record, when I try to think back to my last home run, I have to go back a lot farther than September. But that’s just me.

· Johnson is scheduled to play first base tomorrow. It will be his first time at first this spring. He’ll be considered a backup option there this season.

Joe Girardi, Shaun Lampe, Jeff Nelson, Greg Gibson· Yankees got their first look at the new instant replay system when the Astros challenged a second-inning call at first base. The call stayed as it was on the field — the runner was out — and the whole process took such little time that Nova didn’t throw a single warm-up pitch after the delay. “It was quick,” Nova said. “The play, it wasn’t that difficult to see. But it doesn’t bother me because they still give me a couple of pitches (if necessary). They told me, if you want to throw, go ahead and throw. It’s pretty good when you get to throw. It’s not the same when they don’t give you pitches (during a delay).”

· Girardi said he considered challenging a call in the fourth inning when Brett Gardner flied to right and it looked like George Springer might have dropped the ball on the warning track. Girardi was on his way onto the field when the coaches assigned to monitor replays signaled that the ball was indeed caught. “So I told the pitcher from Houston that he was out and I was walking back,” Girardi said.

· One other replay note: Girardi said he’s been telling his players that they now have to play out every third out until it’s absolutely certain the play is over. If an out is overturned and a play is allowed to continue, Girardi doesn’t want his players to have stopped running. “We’re going to have to deal with these continuation plays where the player thinks it’s the third out,” Girardi said. “A player is not trained to play for four outs, so I’m sure there will be some adjustments along the way.”

· Game notes: Two-hit game for Dean Anna. He was also charged with an error on a high throw that pulled Teixeira off the bag. … Austin Romine also had two hits for the Yankees, and Yangervis Solarte had yet another hit. Zelous Wheeler, Brett Gardner, Zoilo Almonte and Mason Williams also had hits. Williams’ was a double. He also walked and made a good throw from right field (but didn’t get the guy out). … Chase Whitley struck out the only guy he faced and picked up the win. Nice work if you can get it. … David Herndon made his spring debut with a hitless inning. Cesar Cabral and Fred Lewis also pitched hitless innings. Chris Leroux allowed two hits in the ninth, but ultimately pitched another scoreless inning for his first save.

· Good to see my old friend and new Astros beat writer Evan Drellich here in Kissimmee. He’s reporting that the Astros will honor Derek Jeter either April 2 or April 3 in Houston. Andy Pettitte and Roger Clemens are each expected to be there.

· Random note about the Manny Banuelos outing: In the clubhouse afterward, Francisco Cervelli said he hadn’t seen any radar readings, but he guessed that Banuelos was throwing 92 mph. Girardi said it was actually 93. That’s pretty solid mental radar work by Cervy.

· Let’s give the final word to Cervelli, talking about Banuelos: “He asked me, ‘What do you think about it?’ I said, ‘I don’t care. You’ve got the fastball and you’ve got everything, so you’re healthy. Next time you pitch, I promise it’s going to be perfect because you’ve got the confidence back.’”

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100 Responses to “Postgame notes: “He did a good job of finding himself””

  1. UpState March 8th, 2014 at 7:30 pm

    No Nunnie hits.
    …but no Nunnie errors !!!

    (yeah !)

  2. Jerkface March 8th, 2014 at 7:41 pm

    Isn’t Kelly Johnson’s numbers vs. lefthand pitching actually better than seeing righthander’s

    No, maybe for his career? Not recently.

    Last 3 years

    vs LHP: .231 .291 .342
    vs RHP: .225 .313 .414

    2013

    vs RHP .218 .295 .429 .723
    vs LHP .291 .337 .349 .686

    2012
    vs RHP .234 .319 .386 .705
    vs LHP .201 .297 .309 .607

    2011
    vs RHP .221 .320 .430 .750
    vs LHP .224 .258 .368 .626

    He walks more vs RHP & hits for more power. He is also strictly platooned. He had a great year vs LHP in 2010, but thats more of an outlier and not reminiscent of his recent play.

  3. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 8th, 2014 at 7:58 pm

    Okay, I just walked in and immediately turned on the DVR to watch today’s game. I didn’t look at the score, didn’t read any posts, I want to be surprised.

    But I am now watching and right now highlights of yesterday’s game are on.

    So here’s my question, perhaps a stupid one. If there are films of highlights of yesterday’s game, someone apparently has a tape of the game. Then why the hell weren’t we able to see it?

    If anyone knows the answer to that, I’d appreciate knowing. Other than that, talk to you all later. Game is just starting.

  4. tomingeorgia March 8th, 2014 at 7:59 pm

    Man, I love cherry picking stats, even more than I love the stats only guys. The guy hit a homer today. Why piss on him?

  5. Jerkface March 8th, 2014 at 8:01 pm

    The players who are whining are ignoring the simple fact that they had to TURN DOWN a qualifying offer of $14M (this year) to be affected by it

    ??? It is a problem. 1/14 is not really a competitive offer for the guys being offered the QO. And what it does is reduce the compensation the player can receive by tying in something outside of their control as a penalty to the signing team. So depending on how a team values a draft pick it reduces their earnings.

    Santana, Cruz, and Drew should all be signing multiyear deals. If they did not have draft picks tied to them they would. You can’t tell them they are better off accepting a 1 year deal.

  6. Jerkface March 8th, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    Man, I love cherry picking stats, even more than I love the stats only guys. The guy hit a homer today. Why piss on him?

    Its not cherry picking when you are using his entire recent resume of baseball. Cherry picking would be saying he hit a HR today off a lefty so obviously he is good against lefties.

    Anyways I wasn’t pissing on him, I was replying directly to a point someone made in the thread. Its called baseball discussion, Tom. Joe Maddon only started him in 19 of their 53 games vs left handers and he ended up only getting 95 PA vs them last year.

    He is a platoon guy, if he started more games against them he would likely have put up worse stats.

  7. Revenge of Stoneburner March 8th, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    Eeeshhh

    Madden: As Cano asks Mariners for help, it’s like A-Rod in Texas all over again

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports#ixzz2vQJKVBiz

  8. Revenge of Stoneburner March 8th, 2014 at 8:12 pm

    Erik Boland ?@eboland11 4h
    One opposing team scout had Banuelos at 92-94 mph today.Said “No reason to think he can’t rebound” from Tommy John to eventually make Majors

  9. Ys Guy March 8th, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    “??? It is a problem. 1/14 is not really a competitive offer for the guys being offered the QO. And what it does is reduce the compensation the player can receive by tying in something outside of their control as a penalty to the signing team. So depending on how a team values a draft pick it reduces their earnings.

    Santana, Cruz, and Drew should all be signing multiyear deals. If they did not have draft picks tied to them they would. You can’t tell them they are better off accepting a 1 year deal.”
    =====================================
    $14.1M is alot of money to play baseball for one year. Players decline that offer at thier own risk. Their union agreed to tying picks as compensation, so they have no complaint. They got what they wanted in the cba and the owners got what they wanted. Both sides compromised. Thats the way negotiated agreements go.

    The agents knew a compensatory draft pick would be tied to thier clients if they turned down the QO but they turned them down anyway. Santana especially should have known that given his still uncorrected elbow issue, he was very unlikely to get a multi year deal for more AAV than the QO he turned down. Lohse should have known the same thing going into last offseason.

    As for Drew, I know it’s not really fair to tie him to his brother except they are both very loyal to the same agent and both miss ALOT of games, but JD’s $70M contract with the RS was a disaster. He averaged 120 games per season. Stephen has averaged even less games/year for the prior 3 seasons coming into this offseason.

  10. Ys Guy March 8th, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    One more thing, Curtis Granderson declined a QO. he’s a better player than Steven Drew. He was signed by a team who’s first pick was protected and thus did not affect his compensation. He signed a contract for an AAV of $15M.

    Now if we assume that teams think Stephen Drew is not as valuable in the abstract as CG is, then he should have expected that even lacking the compensation pick being attached to him, he was not likely to exceed the $14.1M he turned down. And with his recent injury history, he should not expect anyone to give him a long term deal that does not include a club option to protect them from his continuing to miss alot of games.

  11. UpState March 8th, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    Revenge of Stoneburner March 8th, 2014 at 8:05 pm
    Eeeshhh

    Madden: As Cano asks Mariners for help, it’s like A-Rod in Texas all over again

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports#ixzz2vQJKVBiz
    ===========================

    Happiness brewing in Seattle.

    (PS: not coffee)

  12. Jerkface March 8th, 2014 at 8:28 pm

    Even if Drew is not worth 14 million a year the fact he has a draft pick tied to him reduces his overall compensation. Because teams may not even give him 10 million a year, or even 9 million a year because of it.

    The players union may have agreed to it but with any new system there are always unintended consequences and they may not have analyzed it properly. They might not have realized that big market teams will offer QOs even to players they have no interest in retaining or that teams would start valuing draft picks differently with the new slot bonus pool.

    And its disingenuous to say that the ‘players agreed to it’. Most of the guys have no say in what the players union accepts or does not accept. THose decisions are being made by the heads of the union who aren’t even players now. And with the sport likely prioritizing PEACE between ownership and the players, its not fair to say they have to just take it.

    Compensation sucks and was simply put in place as a form of collusion for the cheapskate owners of this game. 1/14 seems like a big contract but its really not and it is severely depressing contract salaries for players that are offered QO.

  13. Jerkface March 8th, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    The only players who should ever accept the qual offer are those who would stand to make less than 14 million dollars in their next contract and thats basically no one with the way the system works. Its bogus.

  14. pete2 March 8th, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    “As for Drew, I know it’s not really fair to tie him to his brother except they are both very loyal to the same agent and both miss ALOT of games, but JD’s $70M contract with the RS was a disaster. He averaged 120 games per season. Stephen has averaged even less games/year for the prior 3 seasons coming into this offseason.”

    JD’s contract was hardly a disaster. According to Fan Graphs his value in his first 4 years was equal to what he was paid. Bad last year though, but that was kind of expected.

    Stephen Drew had exactly 1 significant injury that spanned 2 years coming off a collision. Every other year he has had at least 500 PA. Over the last 4 years he has played more games than Ellsbury who was just signed for 7/153.

  15. Pat M. March 8th, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    Face, I think only Joe Maddon viewed K Johnson as a platoon hitter and isn’t his overall BA and OBP higher vs. lefties ????

  16. pete2 March 8th, 2014 at 8:41 pm

    Just to clarify one thing on the QO system. Compensation is not the problem, its the penalty, which is the loss of a pick and the loss of slot money that is the issue. I agree with compensation, but the penalty is a tax that is paid ultimately by the player with a reduced salary. Players already paid their dues playing 6 years at below market prices, why should they be taxed for exercising their freedom as a free agent.

    The penalty on free agents is not a new thing, its been around for years for Type A free agents. Now for some reason teams have collectively decided on a higher valuation for the lost pick, which is bordering on collusion IMO since it seems strange for teams to all attach the same higher value at about the same time.

    More of a problem for non-elite free agents, but the ramifications of forcing these players into taking lesser deals will impact arb-eligible players and down the road should impact all players.

  17. Pat M. March 8th, 2014 at 8:45 pm

    I’d be shocked if The Bombers sign Stephen Drew even if there wasn’t a draft pick attached to him….They have their eye on a younger and far more productive player than a Stephen Drew. And frankly I see Kelly Johnson being a far better use of resources at third than the concept of moving Drew there as well……I think folks here ( stat heads ) are going to be very surprised by K Johnson’s play this season.

  18. jlyanks85 March 8th, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    All I know is we should of gotten the mariners 1st round pick for them signing cano. Not right how their pick was protected.

    They signed our best player, we should least be able to get their top pick in return.

  19. dan l March 8th, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    They should just scrap the entire draft…just have 2 tiers of money one for making the post season and the one for missing the post season getting a bigger spending pool. Make all contracts able to be traded in the last year an a half of there deal.

  20. tomingeorgia March 8th, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    blake,
    Take down Dook tonight, just for fun. Somebody out of the Big East will beat the who ever wins, anyway.

  21. Jerkface March 8th, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    I think folks here ( stat heads ) are going to be very surprised by K Johnson’s play this season.

    He is going to hit double digit HRs and not get on base at all or hit or average. I liked the KJ pick as a bench/utility role, said so at the time. Don’t think he is going to be as good as some of you think but he is ok. Brian Roberts is the iffy guy on the IF.

  22. Pat M. March 8th, 2014 at 9:03 pm

    Just watching the replay video of Manny B’s outing from earlier today and I forgot how much he reminds me of Gator. Especially once he gets to the lift position and on he’s very much Guidry like….Still say he’s the Yanks most valued minor league player, a real Blue-Chipper….

  23. RhapsodyInBlue March 8th, 2014 at 9:04 pm

    GO heels!

  24. Ys Guy March 8th, 2014 at 9:15 pm

    so the dumb players were played for fools by their evil union bosses. i see.

  25. jmills March 8th, 2014 at 9:22 pm

    trisha, I don’t have an answer, keep going the best we can :)

  26. Hankflorida March 8th, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    I wonder if Chad could find out if Text cahanged his stance? Watching Text today hit, I saw something different from the left hand side. It seem that he was more open and looked similar to his right hand stance. Was what I saw more due to the camera angle of the telecast or is he less closed left handed because of his injury?

  27. Jerkface March 8th, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    so the dumb players were played for fools by their evil union bosses. i see.

    Do you think they asked Ervin Santana about his opinion on the qual offer system?

    If I made it I’d give the teams a comp pick but take nothing from the signing team. Hell, give the compensated teams more pool money even.

  28. Jerkface March 8th, 2014 at 9:26 pm

    Some of the Yankee prospect followers/prospect people are saying Manny changed his pitching motion to put more emphasis on the legs.

  29. blake March 8th, 2014 at 9:34 pm

    Beat them Dooks!

  30. blake March 8th, 2014 at 9:34 pm

    If the Yanks don’t offer Drew 1/14 they are nuts

  31. blake March 8th, 2014 at 9:36 pm

    KJ will be a below average defender at 3b…..he will hit about .235 and get on base around 30% of the time. He will also hit 20 homers……not a great starting option for a contending team.

  32. Pat M. March 8th, 2014 at 9:36 pm

    Face….Manny B rotates and hips and shoulder as he strides to his release point just like Ronnie did. I didn’t notice any difference from today as opposed to before getting hurt but I’ll look at some tape tonight after the UCLA game. Back to the Heels / Duke game, need to make some dough

  33. Ys Guy March 8th, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    dan l March 8th, 2014 at 8:52 pm
    They should just scrap the entire draft…just have 2 tiers of money one for making the post season and the one for missing the post season getting a bigger spending pool. Make all contracts able to be traded in the last year an a half of there deal.

    ============================================
    Again, this didnt come as a surprise. The Yankees knew there was a good chance Cano was going to sign elsewhere and they would have no control over whether they would get the pick or not. Many on here wanted them to trade him at the Trade Deadline, last offseason or the previous offseason rather than let him leave for just a draft pick.

    The players knew there was going to be a compensation pick attached to them if they turned down the QO and some, made the wrong call. Too bad, they might have to work for less than $14.1M per year.

  34. blake March 8th, 2014 at 9:41 pm

    Mannys breaking ball looked great today…..he really didn’t get himself in any counts to use his CU much. It’s all about fastball command for him like most pitchers…..when he throws strikes and gets ahead he has the weapons to put guys away…..I just hope he can stay healthy…..he will be in the 2015 rotation kf he does

  35. jmills March 8th, 2014 at 9:43 pm

    I’ve said it prior, Aaron Hill should never have been dealt for Kelly Johnson.

  36. jmills March 8th, 2014 at 9:46 pm

    Aaron Hill started out at the hot corner. The guy could field and hit a brick. To this day I don’t understand my Jays trading him.

  37. Pat M. March 8th, 2014 at 9:48 pm

    blake maybe you should look up the career of one Graig Nettles. Stick wise they are similair

  38. jmills March 8th, 2014 at 9:51 pm

    I was one of the lucky souls to catch Craig Nettles – the guy is special!

  39. blake March 8th, 2014 at 9:53 pm

    Pat M,
    Maybe Johnson’s career numbers but he hasn’t been that guy in a couple of years…..plus the difference in glove between those 2 is significant.

    I like Kelly as a utility guy and power bat off the bench…..not as big of him as the starting 3B

  40. pete2 March 8th, 2014 at 9:57 pm

    “The players knew there was going to be a compensation pick attached to them if they turned down the QO and some, made the wrong call. Too bad, they might have to work for less than $14.1M per year.”
    ===========================
    Players are not as concerned about AAV as years and total dollars. Pretty sure Jiminez does not regret not accepting the QO. The only confirmed loser is Nelson Cruz, and he is coming off a PED suspension and has significant career H-A splits.
    He was dumb.

    Santana is now rumored to get 13+ incentives or 14 for 1 yr, but with a team of his choice in a market that gives him more exposure than KC, so I doubt he will regret turning down the QO.

    The only 2 left will be Morales and Drew. They might end up with a 1 yr deal less than 14 million, but it may be with a team that gives them a better chance to try again next year, and earn more (or perhaps take the QO if offered). With the Red Sox Drew would have been 1 slump away or a DL stint away from being a bench player with Boegarts or Cechinin breathing down his neck. It would have been nuts for him to take the QO.

    But weep not for any of these guys, they will be playing somewhere, making millions for 6 months work(play), more money than most people make in a lifetime.

  41. jmills March 8th, 2014 at 9:58 pm

    Nettles stabbing end off those end line drives, he is great!

  42. jmills March 8th, 2014 at 10:00 pm

    Craig Nettles is in Brooks Robinson territory. Ask Thurman!

  43. Jerkface March 8th, 2014 at 10:01 pm

    They do look pretty similar, but Nettles played in a different era. Kelly Johnson has a very similar slash line to Nettles but has played 14 less seasons overall, so if you extrapolate Kelly Johnson’s career trend to another 14 years its pretty clear that he is probably much worse than Nettles. Nettles was 7% better than his peers, Kelly Johnson only 3% better and thats with Nettles entire decline calculated in.

    Kelly Johnson has also been pretty bad the last 3 seasons, below league average offensively. The only thing he really brings to the table is power, which makes him a great bench guy.

  44. CompassRosy March 8th, 2014 at 10:03 pm

    ::: Revenge of Stoneburner March 8th, 2014 at 8:05 pm
    Eeeshhh

    Madden: As Cano asks Mariners for help, it’s like A-Rod in Texas all over again

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports#ixzz2vQJKVBiz :::

    Oh, brother . . .
    This is getting blown out of proportion even more than Harbaugh and Baalke ;-)

  45. pat March 8th, 2014 at 10:04 pm

    “……. the Astros will honor Derek Jeter either April 2 or April 3 in Houston. Andy Pettitte and Roger Clemens are each expected to be there.”

    That won’t be awkward at all. :shock:

  46. Pat M. March 8th, 2014 at 10:06 pm

    blake….clearly he’s no Nettles with the Rawlings, and the last 2 or so seasons have been spotty I agree. However for 3 million , 1 year deal I can see a real good bounce back year for him. He’s going to hit 25 dingers and play decently at 3rd. My issue is for him to cut down of the K’s and everything else will improve. I can see him getting back to being a 250 total bases type contributor…Maybe even get .775-800 OPS out of him…I still say he’s going to surprise many a LoHudder and Bombers fan. But there’s going to be a lot of seeing eyer’s finding the hole between he and Jete

  47. jmills March 8th, 2014 at 10:06 pm

    Compass, Willie Horten sucked for the Jays but was pretty good for you guys.

  48. jmills March 8th, 2014 at 10:12 pm

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Uid-nqb9SAU

  49. Revenge of Stoneburner March 8th, 2014 at 10:36 pm

    CompassRosy March 8th, 2014 at 10:03 pm
    ::: Revenge of Stoneburner March 8th, 2014 at 8:05 pm
    Eeeshhh

    Madden: As Cano asks Mariners for help, it’s like A-Rod in Texas all over again

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports#ixzz2vQJKVBiz :::

    Oh, brother . . .
    This is getting blown out of proportion even more than Harbaugh and Baalke ;-)

    ******

    I would have liked them to add Cruz and Santana – even before the pitching injuries. Then trade Frankllin for pitching help. I just do not think Hart and Morrison are the kinds of pieces you add after your big splash – they should have kept on going.

  50. MTU March 8th, 2014 at 10:39 pm

    Have a good night.

    See you all an hr. later for the breakfast club.

    Remember to set your clocks ahead.

    ;)

  51. Revenge of Stoneburner March 8th, 2014 at 10:41 pm

    Johnson will get his first start at first base tomorrow. He’s the backup first baseman by default. Bench coach Tony Pena ran him through a scooping drill today by hitting hard hit ground balls at him from second base. [Jorge Castillo]

  52. Revenge of Stoneburner March 8th, 2014 at 10:51 pm

    “The Red Sox will pay a small MLB-mandated fine after the team fielded a lineup of minor leaguers for a game against the Marlins earlier this week, Alex Speier of WEEI.com reports, citing Major League sources. As we noted earlier tonight, the incident appears to have fostered some amount of bad blood between the two clubs. Under MLB rules, teams must feature four players who either served as regulars during the preceding season or who have a legitimate chance at doing so during the upcoming season.”

    Hey as longs as it keeps Stanton away from the Sox

  53. UpState March 8th, 2014 at 11:16 pm

    Just in case anyone missed it …..

    DUKE …………..93

    N. Carolina……81

    Mr. Parker takes the Baby Blues to school.

    30 Points.

    (will have to update that b-fast club when I get up….brunch-time-ish)

  54. CompassRosy March 8th, 2014 at 11:19 pm

    RoS ~

    I’d also like to have seen the M’s get Santana and, while I agree with Robbie that they need another bat, for some reason I’m glad it wasn’t Cruz.

    Too bad the M’s can’t keep playing in AZ for the rest of the season ;-)
    (M’s scored 18 in the early SS game vs. the Giants and are up 6-5 right now on the Dodgers in the 7th ;-)

    =====

    jmills ~

    Willie Horton? That was a bit random ;-)
    I even had to look it up (as it was WAY before I started following the M’s)
    In fact, not sure if I mentioned it before but, my first ever Mariners game was on my 10th wedding anniversary (August 27, 1993) in the Kingdome vs. non other than your Blue Jays :-)

  55. tbone1570 March 8th, 2014 at 11:20 pm

    pat March 8th, 2014 at 10:04 pm

    “……. the Astros will honor Derek Jeter either April 2 or April 3 in Houston. Andy Pettitte and Roger Clemens are each expected to be there.”

    ***************************
    Derek should give the Astros a gift that day, as a thank you for not selecting him in the ’92 draft!

  56. pete2 March 8th, 2014 at 11:26 pm

    “pat March 8th, 2014 at 10:04 pm

    “……. the Astros will honor Derek Jeter either April 2 or April 3 in Houston. Andy Pettitte and Roger Clemens are each expected to be there.”
    ======================================

    Jeter played all of 3 games in Houston in his career. I doubt fans there have many memories beyond what they saw on TV. At least with Jeter the fans will get to see him play, unlike Mo last year. Guess the Astros sell a few more tickets which seems to be the main point of these shows by opposition teams. Going to make it harder for Jeter to change his mind on retirement at the ASB when he is batting 380.

  57. Revenge of Stoneburner March 8th, 2014 at 11:26 pm

    CompassRosy March 8th, 2014 at 11:19 pm
    RoS ~

    I’d also like to have seen the M’s get Santana and, while I agree with Robbie that they need another bat, for some reason I’m glad it wasn’t Cruz.

    *****

    I think Cruz at his current 1 year 8 millionish contract would have been okay. If you had added Santana, Cruz and brought back Morales – that is a nice 3,4,5 there – w/ Felix and Santana holding down the front of the rotation. JMO

  58. Triple Short of a Cycle March 8th, 2014 at 11:55 pm

    So Cano is unhappy with the team around him already? I hope only bad things happen to him and he never makes the playoffs.

  59. jmills March 8th, 2014 at 11:58 pm

    Shane Rawley and Mark Langston, these are the M’s hurlers I remember.

  60. jmills March 9th, 2014 at 12:04 am

    Triple, I hope the Islanders don’t move to Brooklyn, if only for Bossy’s sake!

  61. UpState March 9th, 2014 at 12:09 am

    jmills March 8th, 2014 at 11:58 pm
    Shane Rawley and Mark Langston, these are the M’s hurlers I remember.
    =====================================

    Cano was on his GM phone just today, trying to trade them for a reasonably strong RH hitting corner outfielder.
    Both pitchers are willing to relocate.

  62. jmills March 9th, 2014 at 12:14 am

    UpState – hilarious ( Compass, no offence ).

  63. CompassRosy March 9th, 2014 at 12:19 am

    :::: jmills March 8th, 2014 at 11:58 pm

    Shane Rawley and Mark Langston, these are the M’s hurlers I remember. :::::

    I only remember Mark as a member of the California Angels . . . flat on his back, near home plate as “everybody scores!” ;-)

  64. jmills March 9th, 2014 at 12:27 am

    Seattle had killer teams at the turn of the century and just prior. Always dangerous, they were more than deserving of a title.

  65. UpState March 9th, 2014 at 12:27 am

    Shane Rawley:

    Wore the Pinstripes in the early 80′s.

    Definition of an average .500 pitcher.

    Left-handed – should’ve been better.

    …but he wasn’t.

  66. UpState March 9th, 2014 at 12:32 am

    Bud Norris :

    Orioles may trade him, if the win the Santana sweepstakes.

    Seriously – who’d want him ?

    …and why ?

  67. CompassRosy March 9th, 2014 at 12:39 am

    hmm….

    for some reason my last comment is “awaiting moderation”

    no obvious, intentional bad words, only one link (an out recorded via a spinning Franklin and a stretching, sprawling Montero)

  68. UpState March 9th, 2014 at 1:24 am

    …a “sprawling Montero” ?

    Many here will have fits if you talk about a sprawling or expanding or anything Montero…

    For some, the day of the trade, was …

    “…the day the music died..”

  69. Pat M. March 9th, 2014 at 1:25 am

    Shane Rawley was a guy who I kept waiting for his breakout year, never came although he had some nice seasons in Philly. Had the goods, just could never really reach his potential

  70. yankinvegas March 9th, 2014 at 1:28 am

    I am so psyched about our pitching depth.
    CC, Tanaka, Kuroda, Nova, Pineda. Plus Warren in Scranton. And Phelps plus hopefully Nuno in the ‘pen in NY and Banuelos gathering innings in AAA while awaiting his spot in the rotation in 2015. I guess the Mets aren’t the only NY team with some good young arms. The infielder that I would acquire this year, if needed, is Aramis Ramirez.
    Unlike almost everyone else, I am really interested in seeing what Alex has left next spring. Maybe nothing, in which case you eat the money. But just maybe he will see every pitch coming into the hitting zone as a having a collage of pictures on the baseball : Selig, Torre, Lupica, Manfred, Madden, Dempster, Gomes et al and mash. away at .285 with 25 HR. I’m sorry, I like ARod and I don’t care a whit about PEDs. Never have, never will. There are definitely guys in Cooperstown RIGHT NOW who used as surely as Rodriguez did. Not to mention active players like Braun, Peralta and a certain DH in Boston whom nobody seems to question.

  71. Hankflorida March 9th, 2014 at 1:39 am

    jmills March 8th, 2014 at 10:00 pm
    Craig Nettles is in Brooks Robinson territory. Ask Thurman!

    Red Rolf was not a power player but more of a table setter who had a good batting average, and when he retired from the Yankees, their third basemen were mainly good defensive players with not high BA’s like Andy Carey and Clete Boyer. Nettles changed the whole picture when he came from the Indians as a home run RBI guy who could field with the best of them. You cannot even compare Johnson to Nettles. When Gehrig left the Yankees, many of the first basemen that followed were not power hitters. The power came from the outfielders and 2nd base, and when Jerry Colemen took over 2nd base from Joe Gordon, the power numbers came from Yogi and the outfield. This is the reason that I expect Ellsbury and Beltran with McCaan to continue the tradition of a power axis now that we have lost Cano.

  72. bbb51 March 9th, 2014 at 3:07 am

    blake March 8th, 2014 at 9:36 pm
    KJ will be a below average defender at 3b

    What makes you think an average second baseman would be below average at third base?

  73. bbb51 March 9th, 2014 at 3:28 am

    Heh, remember this? :)

    http://youtu.be/P97YGzkCRj4

  74. Pat M. March 9th, 2014 at 3:32 am

    Hankfloroda….. Clete Boyer played 3rd as well as any has ever placed the position , before him and since him….Nettles excelled going to his right ( Boyer to the line ) but once the Yanks moved back into The refurbished Yankee Stadium Nettles went off on hitting dingers, just as Gabe Paul imagined…..If you look closely to Kelly Johnson hitting stats and compared to Nettles for the years they have played, you’re going to see some similarties. Now # 9 is a top 5 gloveman ever to man the corner and K Johnson will be adequate . However I see him going yard 25 times ( maybe more ) raking up 250-275 total bases and maybe a .750-800 OBS .all for a mere 3 million 1 year deal…..IT’s a mild risk with a Huge upside…… Nettles came uo a 2nd sacker until Billy Martin moved him over to 3ed……They had this Carew kid who also played 2nd and by that time a HOF playing 1st….Harmon Killebrew. Great man

  75. CountryClub March 9th, 2014 at 7:50 am

    Things have been going so well for the team that I just wish the season would get started. Would rather they not have to go through these next 3 weeks.

  76. NYYanksFan March 9th, 2014 at 7:53 am

    Madden: As Cano asks Mariners for help, it’s like A-Rod in Texas all over again

    Madden’s Arod obsession lives.

  77. CountryClub March 9th, 2014 at 7:55 am

    Yanks would be happy to send them Ichiro!

    “We lack in our outfield depth as much as anything,” Amaro said. “It is a concern of ours. We were looking to try to add some depth there, but we haven’t been able to find it
    Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/s.....283dyMj.99

  78. CountryClub March 9th, 2014 at 7:57 am

    I won’t be reading that Madden article, but his cano/Arod comparison is not an original one in this case. People were making that connection as soon as he signed with Seattle.

  79. Poetkiosk March 9th, 2014 at 8:40 am

    Love this quote from the DailyNews article about Cano suddenly realizing he’s on a bad team…

    ——-
    “Why is Cano complaining about the Seattle lineup now?” a baseball official asked the other day. “Did he just wake up and realize he signed with a (crappy) team? This season is on him now. He knows he won’t be pitched to. He knows he’s not going to be able to put up the kind of numbers he’s used to.”

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....z2vT7U1hRc

  80. Poetkiosk March 9th, 2014 at 8:49 am

    The Grantland article hardly supports the idea that the Mariners will be a good team. If anything it takes a harsher look at the team then Madden.

  81. GregD March 9th, 2014 at 8:50 am

    Pat M. March 9th, 2014 at 3:32 am
    Hankfloroda….. Clete Boyer played 3rd as well as any has ever placed the position , before him and since him….Nettles excelled going to his right ( Boyer to the line ) but once the Yanks moved back into The refurbished Yankee Stadium Nettles went off on hitting dingers, just as Gabe Paul imagined…..If you look closely to Kelly Johnson hitting stats and compared to Nettles for the years they have played, you’re going to see some similarties. Now # 9 is a top 5 gloveman ever to man the corner and K Johnson will be adequate . However I see him going yard 25 times ( maybe more ) raking up 250-275 total bases and maybe a .750-800 OBS .all for a mere 3 million 1 year deal…..IT’s a mild risk with a Huge upside…… Nettles came uo a 2nd sacker until Billy Martin moved him over to 3ed……They had this Carew kid who also played 2nd and by that time a HOF playing 1st….Harmon Killebrew. Great man

    ————————————
    One correction…..Nettles never played a game of 2B in the minors…..he did play some OF and 1B when he came up but he was always a 3B

  82. pat March 9th, 2014 at 9:02 am

    There are like 20 new guys in Yankees camp, a medical center full of recovering injuries, a dozen “feel good” stories and Madden (and Klapisch) are still weaving Cano and Alex into stories even though one no longer plays in NY and the other hasn’t been seen or heard from in months.

  83. Baby Ruth March 9th, 2014 at 9:12 am

    It sure would be nice if the Arod and Cano stories would subside so the focus can be on whats in camp

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