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Saturday morning notes: “Just go pitch like before”

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Manny Banuelos

Manny Banuelos sat at his locker yesterday weaving a new set of shoe strings into his spikes. He seemed hopeful and optimistic, excited that today he’ll get into his first game since Tommy John surgery. Banuelos is only 22 years old, and he still sees a bright future for himself. Or, at the very least, he knows a bright future is still possible.

“It feels great,” Banuelos said. “I feel healthy. I don’t feel pain. Always (right after the surgery) I would throw, I would feel nervous like I would feel pain, but I don’t feel anything like that. So I’m happy for that.”

As we talked, it was hard for me to tell whether Banuelos had ever heard the name Frank Jobe before another reporter mentioned the name to him earlier in the day. Certainly, Banuelos didn’t know until yesterday that Dr. Jobe had died on Thursday, but the impact of that total stranger’s life was not lost on the young Yankees left-hander.

“He saved a lot of careers,” Banuelos said. “That’s why I’m still here.”

Banuelos is hopeful and optimistic because of the Tommy John surgery procedure that Jobe first performed 17 years before Banuelos was born. Banuelos underwent the procedure on October 4, 2012. His surgery was performed by Dr. James Andrews, who has become the modern master of the operation. There’s a scar on Banuelos’ left elbow, and there’s a small and unnecessary ligament missing from his right forearm, but he is otherwise perfectly healthy less than a year and a half removed from surgery.

He’s so healthy, in fact, that Banuelos said he doesn’t even consider today’s game to be a significant test. He’s excited about pitching, but he doesn’t feel like he’s going to prove anything. He’s thrown enough bullpens and sim games to know he can pitch again. He can let loose with fastballs and breaking balls and not worry that his elbow is going to feel that long-gone pain that he once feared.

“I just did my tests already, a few months ago,” Banuelos said. “Just go pitch like before. Go out and try to get outs quickly, get the command, throw strikes. That’s all. … I’m not going to learn anything, but I will feel excited because (it’s been) almost two years and I’m not pitching in an inning, so (today) will be the first one. I can’t wait to see what will happen.”

Masahiro Tanaka· Masahiro Tanaka’s next outing will be a simulated game. He said Japanese teams don’t do sim games — they would be more likely to do an intrasquad game — but he considers it nothing more than another part of his adjustment. Said he has no problem with doing a sim game, it’s just something he’s never done before. I imagine he could say that about a lot of things that have happened the past two months.

· Brendan Ryan’s sore oblique will keep him out of a few games, but Joe Girardi said there is no significant concern about the long-term impact. “We think he’ll be fine next week,” Girardi said. “The MRIs came out good, so we think he’ll be fine. We’re probably being a little cautious because we can.”

· Girardi talked this morning about how well the pitching staff has done this spring. Asked for specific guys who have made a strong impression, Girardi mentioned two names: Dellin Betances and Fred Lewis. Betances is on everyone’s radar, but Lewis is a little less familiar. He has been pretty good after an assignment to the Arizona Fall League this offseason. “He’s a guy that you’re not going to worry about putting him against right-handers,” Girardi said. “… He gets a lot of ground balls.”

· No swings for Tyler Austin today, but that’s just a planned day off. Said he still feels good.

· Tanaka and CC Sabathia are each scheduled for sides today.

Yoshinori Tateyama· Live batting practice:
Facing Ben Gamel and Rob Segedin, up from minor league camp
Yoshinori Tateyama
Robert Coello
Brian Gordon

· Today’s second string: C Austin Romine, 1B Corban Joseph, 2B Jose Pirela, SS Yangervis Solarte, 3B Zelous Wheeler, LF Ramon Flores, CF Antoan Richardson, RF Adonis Garcia, DH Pete O’Brien

· Today’s available relievers: Manny Banuelos, Cesar Cabral, David Herndon and Fred Lewis (with Chase Whitley, Mark Montgomery, Chris Leroux and Danny Burawa making the trip just in case)

· Batting practice groups in Tampa:
Group 1: Jacoby Ellsbury, Carlos Beltran, Alfonso Soriano, Ichiro Suzuki, Brian McCann
Group 2: Russ Canzler, Derek Jeter, Brian Roberts, John Ryan Murphy

· Canzler grew up as a big Jeter fan. He was pretty excited about being in Jeter’s hitting group today.

· Finally, a random moment from the clubhouse: Shawn Kelley has a small but effective Bluetooth-enabled speaker system next to his locker. This morning, he and David Phelps were in a musical discussion with Meredith Marakovits, which led to Phelps getting on his phone, pulling up Spotify — or something like Spotify — and playing several Michael Bolton songs while Kelley made specific requests for Bolton’s greatest hits. It was both brutal and extremely funny. When Dave Robertson walked in the clubhouse, Phelps changed the song to Sweet Home Alabama. The closer had arrived, to his very own entrance music. Hilarious.

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203 Responses to “Saturday morning notes: “Just go pitch like before””

  1. MTU March 8th, 2014 at 9:56 am

    Tanaka has a wipeout split.

    Pineda has a wipeout slider.

    Nova has a wipeout curve.

    And Manny has a wipeout change.

    Am I sensing a pattern there.

    :)

  2. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 8th, 2014 at 9:58 am

    repost:

    “Trish, people who are Yankee fans can actually have not liked the trade and were rooting and still are rooted wholeheartedly for Pineda. Now there’s a concept!”

    YF, of course. And you are unequivocally one of them. But there are evolved and unevolved in all fan bases. You know that. As I said, it was JMO.

  3. DONNYBROOK March 8th, 2014 at 9:59 am

    Presuming everyone is health, it’s coming down to Sizemore vs Nunez.

  4. Against All Odds March 8th, 2014 at 10:00 am

    but I just don’t get the excitement I think we should be getting all around seeing that Pineda is back on the mound and knocking them dead.

    ——————–

    I think just about everyone is excited to hear how well he did last night but they’re just taking a measured approach.

  5. Tar March 8th, 2014 at 10:01 am

    Actually I am more excited about seeing Banuelos pitch today, than I was about Pineda yesterday. Maybe I am one of the “unevolved” . :D

  6. 86w183 March 8th, 2014 at 10:03 am

    Banuelos getting back to where he was would be tremendous.

    The fact that two grown men even know a Michael Bolton song is sorta sad.

  7. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 8th, 2014 at 10:05 am

    Tar -I will never be the one to say that of you. Now, if you say it of yourself, it certainly has more of a ring of credibility.

    I’m willing to go with your pronouncement, up or down.

    ;)

  8. austinmac March 8th, 2014 at 10:05 am

    Tar,

    Just as I suspected. Still low on the evolution tree. :)

  9. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2014 at 10:06 am

    Tar, very excited to see ManBan today (on archives though, have to work) :(

    Trish, I don’t need to be acknowledged as not one of that group. But thanks, anyway. And FTR, there is no group or Yankee fan rooting against Pineda, and especially not Axisa. Let’s keep the focus on the player, shall we?

    Please continue to say prayers for Luis and jmv.

  10. MTU March 8th, 2014 at 10:07 am

    Mac-

    Tar is a well known heathen.

    :)

  11. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2014 at 10:09 am

    Tar has a mind of his own! Thank God! :)

  12. MTU March 8th, 2014 at 10:11 am

    I was a fence sitter on the Montero-Pineda trade.

    Felt it would take time to evaluate.

    Still do.

  13. austinmac March 8th, 2014 at 10:11 am

    My family is still searching for the evolution tree. As a European by descent, I am feeling a bit Neanderthallesque today.

  14. The Fifth Core Foursman March 8th, 2014 at 10:12 am

    On the evolutionary scale of Yankeefandom, Im like Cro-Magnon man. I want the Yankees to crush the skulls of their opponents.

  15. MTU March 8th, 2014 at 10:14 am

    Mac-

    I have mastered walking upright.

    :)

  16. Tar March 8th, 2014 at 10:14 am

    “Still low on the evolution tree”

    “Tar is a well known heathen.”

    Can one be “low on the evolution tree” and a “heathen”? :twisted:

    I better shut up while I am ahead.

    —–

    Trish I was joking…. but I am really excited to see Banuelos today. I also think it was great that Pineda had a very good “FIRST” outing.

  17. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 8th, 2014 at 10:15 am

    YF, I was speaking in entirely generic terms, and I will opine what I want, when I want. Because you feel differently doesn’t change the possibility that there are Yankee fans who do not want to see Pineda succeed. As I said, it is a feeling that I get. And it is a feeling I still have.

    You have no idea in God’s green earth whether there is any Yankee fan rooting against Pineda! Why would you make such a sweeping statement when all I said is that I have a feeling it’s the case?

    Reality is that there were Yankee fans wanting Montero to crash and burn.

    On another topic, I bought a commercial product for washing fruits and vegetables so I think I will be good to go with my all-inclusive juicer.

  18. Chip March 8th, 2014 at 10:17 am

    Looking forward to seeing Man Ban on MLBN today

  19. MTU March 8th, 2014 at 10:17 am

    I’d like the rest of baseball to be using bows and arrows while we have the repeating rifle.

    ;)

  20. Chip March 8th, 2014 at 10:17 am

    Nunez has a huge edge on Sizemore in that Nunnie’s on the 40, Sizemore is not and the 40 is full.

  21. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2014 at 10:18 am

    “Yankee fans who do not want to see Pineda succeed.”

    trish, I have no say or problem with your posting anything you want. I enjoy diversity and different opinions. However, when you indict people based on a feeling, I am going to question that. Name names.

  22. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2014 at 10:20 am

    As for the vegetable/fruit cleanser, I hope it is all natural. You want to get off the pesticides etc. on the skin (at the least if you are not going to eat organic) Also will help with your allergies if you try to limit chemicals.

  23. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2014 at 10:21 am

    Anyway, I have to leave for work. So, carry on. Go Vato! Go ManBan! Go Yanks!

  24. Tar March 8th, 2014 at 10:21 am

    I also very much doubt that any Yankee fan wants to see Pineda fail. That in no way helps any person who was a supporter of Montero.

    Much more likely is some will take any success he has….. and try to rub it in in people who supported Montero.

    But Trish why even go there?

  25. bigdan22 March 8th, 2014 at 10:21 am

    DONNYBROOK March 8th, 2014 at 9:59 am
    Presuming everyone is health, it’s coming down to Sizemore vs Nunez.

    —-

    I was discussing this yesterday. Because Sizemore is not on the roster and his opt out isn’t till May 1, it’s unlikely he’ll go north with the team. To add Sizemore in April you probably lose Anna and I don’t think the Yanks will do that if they can wait till May to make that decision.

    Glad to see Lewis is on the radar. He was on my radar before ST when I heard he was throwing 97 last fall in the AFL. I believe he also struck out Miggy in the last ST game against Detroit. Don’t think he can make the bullpen in April because he’s not on the 40 man either. I think Cabral will get that spot but Lewis should be in Scranton and available for call up this season. 97 from the left side is a good thing.

  26. The Fifth Core Foursman March 8th, 2014 at 10:22 am

    Personally I wouldn’t consider anybody rooting against Pineda a Yankee fan. I leave that kind of backwards thinking for the Australopithecus types found in the left field bleachers.

  27. MH370 March 8th, 2014 at 10:22 am

    There is a missing flight with about 240 casualties and some fans are rooting against a player so that they can feel right about a trade. SMFH

  28. CountryClub March 8th, 2014 at 10:23 am

    They can send Sizemore down until at least May 1st. They can actually send down all the middle infielders currently in camp. This isn’t one of those situations where if somebody doesn’t make the team that they’ll lose them.

  29. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 8th, 2014 at 10:23 am

    Tar – :)

    I’m really excited about this team. I don’t really have a full handle on the bullpen yet. There are so may new faces milling about. But I saw someone talking about possibly trading Claiborne this morning. Heck, I think he’s one of the few that show good things!

    FTR, I know you are not unevolved. I wanted to say something about this before but didn’t really know how to say it, but someone mentioned it the other day and beat me to the punch – and did a very nice job. You are someone who stays with your cause, whatever it is, and you do it in a universal sense, and not a personal one. I truly respect that about you. When posters started coming on the forum and creating havoc, whoever they were and whenever they did, you immediately stood up for the victims and wanted those posters shut down. You didn’t stay quiet until you or one of your buddies became a victim and then start with a loudspeaker. You said things immediately.

    You stay true to your cause, baseball or otherwise, and I totally respect that. It makes you the real deal, IMO.

    Dat’s all.

    And that stands whether or not we agree on whether offense or pitching is more important to the game!

    :D

  30. MH370 March 8th, 2014 at 10:24 am

    Let’s think and pray for those on the Malaysian Airlines flight, shall we?

  31. Tar March 8th, 2014 at 10:24 am

    What helps Montero supporters is for Montero to do good, not Pineda bad.

    Kind of “unevolved” thinking really :D

  32. mick March 8th, 2014 at 10:26 am

    Of course there are evolved and unevolved…

  33. Tar March 8th, 2014 at 10:28 am

    Thank you Trish.

    You are very excited about Pineda and I think you are interpreting those who may be more reserved as ‘rooting against”. I really don’t see that at all.

    I think it was a great first step, if he comes back all the way it will be huge for the Yankees. But right now I’m am going to wait before I get too excited about him, and at the same time hope for the best.

  34. mick March 8th, 2014 at 10:28 am

    Part of the evolved group would be the evolving.

  35. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 8th, 2014 at 10:28 am

    “I also very much doubt that any Yankee fan wants to see Pineda fail. That in no way helps any person who was a supporter of Montero.

    Much more likely is some will take any success he has….. and try to rub it in in people who supported Montero.”

    I said it before. I don’t have anyone in particular. It’s just a feeling I have in general. I would have thought there would have been a lot more participation here last night, a lot more excitement and instead it was relatively dead. Then reading the thing Axisa said just made me think about it more.

    That’s all. Just a feeling. Not an indictment of anyone in particular. A feeling.

  36. MTU March 8th, 2014 at 10:29 am

    How bout this ?

    They both fulfill their promise.

    ;)

  37. Against All Odds March 8th, 2014 at 10:30 am

    I also very much doubt that any Yankee fan wants to see Pineda fail.

    —————

    I’m sure there is…they might be a very very small number they exist. It would be weird if any Pineda haters didn’t.

  38. RadioKev March 8th, 2014 at 10:30 am

    How far we have come from Nick Swisher and AJ Burnett’s music in the locker room.

  39. Chip March 8th, 2014 at 10:30 am

    It’s a valid point – there are still those who want the Montero for Pineda deal to be a loss for the Yankees because they thought Montero was a sure-fire Hall of Fame hitter who was in the same class as Miguel Cabrera, Albert Pujols, Man Ram and Alex. As that’s obviously not the case, they still want Pineda to fail so that they can say instead, “it’s not that the Yankees shouldn’t have traded Montero, it’s that they shouldn’t have traded him for Pineda.”

  40. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 8th, 2014 at 10:30 am

    YF – this is it. The stuff looks great. I read all the Q and A, and since it doesn’t have an expiration date, I bought 12 bottles of it, ha ha! Well actually, I did it that way to save on shipping. And it is all natural!

    http://www.soap.com/p/veggie-w.....anner=true

  41. bigdan22 March 8th, 2014 at 10:31 am

    CountryClub March 8th, 2014 at 10:23 am
    They can send Sizemore down until at least May 1st. They can actually send down all the middle infielders currently in camp. This isn’t one of those situations where if somebody doesn’t make the team that they’ll lose them.

    —–

    They’ll likely lose an infielder (Anna) if they add a non-roster infielder to the 40 (Sizemore or Solarte) to make the 25. They only get to keep all four (Nunez, Anna, Solarte and Sizemore) if either Nunie or Anna make the 25. My guess is Nunie is the last spot. They need to keep Anna’s 40 spot available if they add someone to cover an injury or perhaps through a trade. I believe he’ll be the first to go. On May 1, they’ll have to decide what to do with Sizemore.

  42. mick March 8th, 2014 at 10:31 am

    How far we have come from Nick Swisher and AJ Burnett’s music in the locker room.
    =========================
    The Yankee FO is evolving.

  43. austinmac March 8th, 2014 at 10:32 am

    I can’t imagine a Yankee fan rooting against any Yankee.

  44. Tar March 8th, 2014 at 10:32 am

    Really I would like to see Pineda’s name without any mention of Montero. That would be evolving…..

  45. Against All Odds March 8th, 2014 at 10:33 am

    There has to be Cano haters because every athlete has some. Rivera is one of the best pitchers in baseball and overall a great person but he himself has detractors.

  46. mick March 8th, 2014 at 10:33 am

    I can’t imagine a Yankee fan rooting against any Yankee.
    =================================
    That would make them unevolved.

  47. Against All Odds March 8th, 2014 at 10:34 am

    austinmac March 8th, 2014 at 10:32 am
    I can’t imagine a Yankee fan rooting against any Yankee.

    —————–

    It happens though. Hughes when he was pitching well had ppl rooting against him.

  48. Against All Odds March 8th, 2014 at 10:34 am

    Not Cano Pineda sorry.

  49. Tar March 8th, 2014 at 10:34 am

    Who are these Pineda haters?

  50. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 8th, 2014 at 10:34 am

    Thanks to those who understand where I’m coming from.

    Tar, I also understand that there are fans who are taking a wait and see because they want to temper their expectations.

  51. Tar March 8th, 2014 at 10:36 am

    CHip @10:30

    I’m calling that BS. Provide names and posts to go with your accusations.

  52. Chip March 8th, 2014 at 10:37 am

    Bigdan -

    I can’t imagine the Yankees keeping 5 catchers on the 40 man roster. One of the Cervelli/Romine/Murphy group will be traded before the end of spring training. That will likely open up a spot on the 40 man roster (unless the player is traded for an infielder in which case neither Nunez or Sizemore make the 25.)

  53. Against All Odds March 8th, 2014 at 10:37 am

    Tar March 8th, 2014 at 10:34 am
    Who are these Pineda haters?

    ———————-

    Under every rock. We must find them and hunt them down. :)

    But seriously he has to have at least a few ppl rooting against him. No person on Earth is loved by everyone.

  54. Against All Odds March 8th, 2014 at 10:37 am

    I don’t think anyone on here hates Pineda though.

  55. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 8th, 2014 at 10:38 am

    Against, thank you for understanding.

    Of course there are Yankee fans who want to see individual Yankee players crash and burn. You see it right here when certain players have really been falling apart. The venom comes out 100 fold and posters want the player out of town on the next rail!

  56. Tar March 8th, 2014 at 10:38 am

    “Tar, I also understand that there are fans who are taking a wait and see because they want to temper their expectations.”

    I really think this is what you misinterpreted. Not everyone is as optimistic as you.

  57. MH370 March 8th, 2014 at 10:39 am

    There is reason to root against certain Yankees. Chris Stewart, for one. To make it clear to management that he shouldn’t be on the Yankees roster.

  58. MTU March 8th, 2014 at 10:39 am

    When it comes to Yankee fandom we are all belong to the same Tribe.

    :)

  59. mick March 8th, 2014 at 10:40 am

    What was unevolved were people making extreme comments just for the sake of antagonizing, in the name of promoting discussion. These over the top provocative “opinions” of the contrarian variety can be argued were made to get a response of the same nature and trigger discussion.

    Some might have. Most didn’t as they were perceived to just be antagonistic.
    Some think they can never be wrong but evolve.
    Some are just hateful yet feel enlightened.

  60. MH370 March 8th, 2014 at 10:41 am

    Who is Montero? Is he the player that was evaluated as the worst catcher in MLB last season, sent down to the minors by the Mariners, and tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs?

  61. Tar March 8th, 2014 at 10:41 am

    “I don’t think anyone on here hates Pineda though.”

    I can’t speak for anyone but myself….but I have mentally gone through the list of the biggest Montero supporters on this blog, and I can not come up with a single person who I think wants Pineda to fail.

  62. Chip March 8th, 2014 at 10:42 am

    Tar -

    Randy for one. Go back and read some of the posts by others around the time Jack Z made the statement about no longer having expectations for Montero given his lack of work ethic.

  63. Against All Odds March 8th, 2014 at 10:43 am

    Of course there are Yankee fans who want to see individual Yankee players crash and burn.

    ——————

    Yep every player on this team has at least a few Yankee fans rooting against them. From high profile players like Ells to role players like Thornton.

  64. sjb23 March 8th, 2014 at 10:43 am

    bigdan22 March 8th, 2014 at 10:31 am
    They’ll likely lose an infielder (Anna) if they add a non-roster infielder to the 40 (Sizemore or Solarte) to make the 25. They only get to keep all four (Nunez, Anna, Solarte and Sizemore) if either Nunie or Anna make the 25. My guess is Nunie is the last spot. They need to keep Anna’s 40 spot available if they add someone to cover an injury or perhaps through a trade. I believe he’ll be the first to go. On May 1, they’ll have to decide what to do with Sizemore.
    *******************************

    bigdan:

    My guess is they won’t keep 5 catchers on the 40-I have a hunch one of them (IMO, Romine) will be part of a package trade, which should free up a spot. Also, I have no idea why Shane Greene is on the 40-the spot is too valuable for his likes. Wouldn’t this make room for both Sizemore and Solarte? I think the Yanks should keep both players. Of course if I’m right about the trade, I hope it also involves Ichiro, in order to create yet another spot.

  65. sjb23 March 8th, 2014 at 10:45 am

    Chip -

    I just realized you and I are thinking the same re: 5 catchers on the 40

  66. mick March 8th, 2014 at 10:45 am

    Rooting for individual players is unevolved.
    The purist roots for the team.
    There will be different heroes every game.

  67. bigdan22 March 8th, 2014 at 10:45 am

    Chip March 8th, 2014 at 10:37 am
    Bigdan -

    I can’t imagine the Yankees keeping 5 catchers on the 40 man roster. One of the Cervelli/Romine/Murphy group will be traded before the end of spring training. That will likely open up a spot on the 40 man roster (unless the player is traded for an infielder in which case neither Nunez or Sizemore make the 25.)

    —-

    You are right Chip, at some point the Yanks will trade one of their catchers. But there’s no reason to do that during ST. No one is being blocked really. This team is set to go right now. I laid that out yesterday. They have all their 25 man answers on their current 40.

    They need to keep their powder dry with respect to the 5 catchers. I believe one of those, plus maybe Phelps or Warren, are their key trading chips. in the event there’s an injury to a starter, most likely on the infield, these chips will be used for a trade. There’s just is no reason to do that now. The season could start today. The Yanks are ready.

  68. Tar March 8th, 2014 at 10:45 am

    CHip

    I doubt that Randy WANTS Pineda to fail in order to justify his position on Montero.

    From day one he talked about problems he had with his delivery, and his overall doubts about him. But that is a huge leap to wanting him to fail.

  69. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 8th, 2014 at 10:46 am

    Tar – I think Chip was talking generically, the same way I was. The extreme polarization that came with the trade could lead one to believe that some Yankee fans (not all Yankee fans post on lohud!) would want to see one or the other fail. That is not unrealistic!

    When Kyle Farnsworth was on the Yankees, I remember the barnstorming that happened right here with posters wanting him anywhere but on the Yankees.

    It’s never a sure bet to assume that all Yankee fans root for all Yankee players.

  70. MTU March 8th, 2014 at 10:46 am

    Chip-

    I don’t think Randy hated Pineda.

    He just thought Pineda wasn’t worth trading Montero for.

    There’s a difference.

    I’ll grant you he did, and still does have, questions about what Pineda becomes.

    But anyone might have those given that he still needs to stay healthy and perfect that 3rd pitch.

  71. CountryClub March 8th, 2014 at 10:48 am

    They do need to trade a catcher in ST….most likely Romine unless it’s a bigger deal…so that Murphy gets all the reps in AAA. They don’t want Romine and Murphy sharing reps in Scranton.

  72. GregD March 8th, 2014 at 10:48 am

    I think the Yanks will keep Murphy…..Cervelli is injury prone and Romine has a delicate back……and Murphy looks like he could be very good……..

  73. GregD March 8th, 2014 at 10:49 am

    the Yanks are one injury away at Catcher to having no surplus

  74. mick March 8th, 2014 at 10:49 am

    Cashman is an excellent dumpster diver, I give him that.
    There is an art to that you know.
    Once Hal opened his wallet, the need to dumpster dive is not as necessary, but there are some hungry players out there who need to prove their worth and they can help a team.

    Last year’s team was an aberration of injuries.

    Let us pray for good health and luck.

  75. austinmac March 8th, 2014 at 10:50 am

    I don’t think anyone rooted against Hughes. Those with low expectations were accused of it.

  76. MTU March 8th, 2014 at 10:51 am

    The Yankees do not need to keep 4 ML Catchers and a guy who is at the AA level.

    That is a waste of resources IMO.

    Make one disappear.

  77. CountryClub March 8th, 2014 at 10:51 am

    I’d be shocked if they let Anna go all together. They’ll figure out the roster crunch.

  78. Triple Short of a Cycle March 8th, 2014 at 10:51 am

    Trish isn’t happy unless a soap opera or conspiracy is going on here. She blindly supports and thinks every Yankee will be an all star so why should Pineda be any different. Her act is a bore

  79. sjb23 March 8th, 2014 at 10:52 am

    bigdan-

    I’ve been thinking for a while now that Phelps will have more value as a trading chip than as a roster guy – but I’m beginning to second guess myself. I’m not comfortable depending on Shawn Kelley as the 8th inning setup guy, and I’m wondering if Phelps should be given consideration for that role. He has nerves of steel, is not easily rattled, doesn’t give up too many HRs, has a good GB ratio, and I think can probably throw a FB 2-3 faster if he knew he was only going for one inning.

    Your thoughts?

  80. Against All Odds March 8th, 2014 at 10:54 am

    austinmac March 8th, 2014 at 10:50 am
    I don’t think anyone rooted against Hughes. Those with low expectations were accused of it.

    —————–

    No there were ppl rooting against him. It wasn’t a large section but it existed.

  81. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 8th, 2014 at 10:54 am

    Triple – I’ve missed you!

  82. MTU March 8th, 2014 at 10:54 am

    Anna, Solarte, Sizemore, etc. are just flyers.

    To talk like we must keep all of them seems misguided to me.

    If you can you do but you don’t twist your roster into a pretzel worrying about it.

    JMO

    ;)

  83. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 8th, 2014 at 10:55 am

    There were people who rooted against Hughes.

  84. sjb23 March 8th, 2014 at 10:55 am

    GregD March 8th, 2014 at 10:48 am
    I think the Yanks will keep Murphy…..Cervelli is injury prone and Romine has a delicate back……and Murphy looks like he could be very good……..
    **************************

    wasn’t there talk at one point about having Murphy field some grounders @ 3B? Given the lack of a backup @ 1st, perhaps they should try him there also? I sure like his bat and his potential

  85. Tar March 8th, 2014 at 10:55 am

    Trish

    I get players who are not producing will elicit awful comments. Pineda hasn’t produced anything yet (good or bad) so I don’t think he falls into that category. In addition he has such a huge upside for the Yankees that I really doubt smart fans want to see him fail.

    I think almost all “Hudders” fall under the smarter or more evolve category.

    I am now done talking about “IMO” nonsensical wanting Pineda to fail in order to justify one’s position on Montero.

    Besides as I said…. I can only really speak for myself.

    Have to run have a good day everyone.

    (Luis and JMV my thoughts are with you guys. Hope you get to watch Banuelos today)

  86. MTU March 8th, 2014 at 10:56 am

    sjb-

    IMO Phelps is under rated.

    ;)

  87. mick March 8th, 2014 at 10:57 am

    Cervelli is the best hitter of the reserve catchers.
    He is also out of options and injury prone.
    If they feel Murphy is too much of a gamble as a hitter and defender and not ready to step in for McCann should he go out for an extended period then keep Cervelli .
    If they want to gamble then trade him now.
    If Sizemore is ready then trade Nunez.

  88. sjb23 March 8th, 2014 at 10:57 am

    MTU March 8th, 2014 at 10:54 am
    Anna, Solarte, Sizemore, etc. are just flyers.
    To talk like we must keep all of them seems misguided to me.
    If you can you do but you don’t twist your roster into a pretzel worrying about it.
    *******************************

    Given the lack of certainty in the infield, I’d feel better about the Yanks having a surplus here than at catcher, in the outfield or the bullpen.

    Shane Greene and Ichiro are taking up valuable spaces on the 40, IMO.

  89. GregD March 8th, 2014 at 10:57 am

    sjb23 March 8th, 2014 at 10:55 am

    wasn’t there talk at one point about having Murphy field some grounders @ 3B? Given the lack of a backup @ 1st, perhaps they should try him there also? I sure like his bat and his potential

    ————————
    I remember hearing that too but I don’t think it’s happened…….. I think they are still focused on his catching development……..

  90. sjb23 March 8th, 2014 at 10:58 am

    mick March 8th, 2014 at 10:57 am
    If Sizemore is ready then trade Nunez.
    ********************************

    I agree with this idea. More upside w/Sizemore

  91. CountryClub March 8th, 2014 at 10:58 am

    MTU,

    In a normal year they would be dispensable. This is not a normal year. They need as many middle infielder options as they can get. Unless they make a trade for something better, all of those guys will be kept.

  92. mick March 8th, 2014 at 11:00 am

    Unless they make a trade for something better, all of those guys will be kept.
    ============================
    Is there that much room in the dumpster?
    I mean that in a good way.

  93. CountryClub March 8th, 2014 at 11:00 am

    If McCann got hurt, Murphy would be the one that they would WANT to be the starter. But in a perfect world, they’d love him to get a full yr at AAA.

  94. bigdan22 March 8th, 2014 at 11:00 am

    sjb23 March 8th, 2014 at 10:52 am
    bigdan-

    I’ve been thinking for a while now that Phelps will have more value as a trading chip than as a roster guy – but I’m beginning to second guess myself. I’m not comfortable depending on Shawn Kelley as the 8th inning setup guy, and I’m wondering if Phelps should be given consideration for that role. He has nerves of steel, is not easily rattled, doesn’t give up too many HRs, has a good GB ratio, and I think can probably throw a FB 2-3 faster if he knew he was only going for one inning.

    Your thoughts?

    —–

    I think Phelps will win the 5th starter comp for April. I think he’s an ideal backend starting pitcher. However, a team doesn’t need to keep the same pitcher in the 5th starter role all year. And teams can, and usually do have several 5th starters.

    I’ve felt for a few months now that the Yanks will go as far as their starting pitchers will take them. And their starters have a chance to be elite. That’s the path to glory for the 2014 Yanks. But the bullpen could be their Achilles heal. There’s just too many unknowns. But the good thing is, a bullpen can evolve during the season. In that process, if the Yanks need Phelps for the 8th inning (realizing he won’t be their first choice), then he will be used in that capacity, much the way Hughes was in 2009.

    And I agree with you. I think Phelps could handle that job. He might even thrive.

  95. MH370 March 8th, 2014 at 11:01 am

    Every time Joba entered a game in a mop-up role, I rooted against him and thoroughly enjoyed him getting spanked around.

  96. austinmac March 8th, 2014 at 11:01 am

    AAO,

    I don’t remember that with Hughes. Perception, I think. If they did, they aren’t real fans.

  97. sjb23 March 8th, 2014 at 11:01 am

    GregD March 8th, 2014 at 10:57 am
    I remember hearing that too but I don’t think it’s happened…….. I think they are still focused on his catching development……..
    ********************************
    If I’m a 22yr old and trying to catch Girardi’s attention, I go out and buy a fielder’s glove for 3B & a 1B mitt and have a sitdown with Joe.

  98. MTU March 8th, 2014 at 11:02 am

    sjb-

    I don’t really worry about how the Yankees choose to manage their roster needs.

    I’m quite sure they know better about who they value than we here do.

    With that in mind they’ll keep the guys who they think they should keep.

    It may not be the ones we would choose, or it may.

    Just because a couple of career MiLB guys look good in a SSS of AB’s in the Spring means little in terms of their projection at the ML level.

    Keep that in mind when you wish for things.

  99. Ys Guy March 8th, 2014 at 11:04 am

    I actually am more excited about Manny B than I am about Pineda!
    this could turn out to be a significant weekend for the Yankkes future!

  100. mick March 8th, 2014 at 11:04 am

    Nobody rooted against Hughes.
    They just booed him when he constantly failed.
    Similar to Burnett.
    Not looking forward to his starts is not rooting against him.

  101. MTU March 8th, 2014 at 11:05 am

    CC-

    I prefer they make that trade, or two.

    I don’t see Solarte or Anna as long term solutions to anything at this point.

    In areas we have surpluses we should use them to fill other needs.

    And we should be thinking long term. Especially w respect to our IF.

    We will need to reconstruct most of it by next year.

    I say we get started right away.

    ;)

  102. Triple Short of a Cycle March 8th, 2014 at 11:06 am

    Triple – I’ve missed you!

    ———————–

    I bet lol

  103. bigdan22 March 8th, 2014 at 11:07 am

    MTU March 8th, 2014 at 10:54 am
    Anna, Solarte, Sizemore, etc. are just flyers.

    To talk like we must keep all of them seems misguided to me.

    If you can you do but you don’t twist your roster into a pretzel worrying about it

    —–

    Anna is the only one with a roster spot now (and Nunie of course but he’s a Yankee for life :). And Anna’s spot is really just a placeholder now. It can be used for another player and you still have Solarte in Scranton performing Anna’s role.

    You don’t execute for the sake of executing a trade. You don’t execute to improve the esthetics of the 40 man roster. They’ll be plenty of at bats for Romine and Murphy at Scranton.

    The time will come for the Yanks to make a trade. Maybe it will be to replace an injured starter. Or add a big bullpen arm. But the time is not now.

  104. Against All Odds March 8th, 2014 at 11:09 am

    Triple Short of a Cycle March 8th, 2014 at 11:06 am
    Triple – I’ve missed you!

    ———————–

    I bet lol

    ————–

    You two are like a married couple that dislike each other but love being around each other lol.

  105. Ys Guy March 8th, 2014 at 11:10 am

    Kim Jones said this morning that she’s very confident that CC will come back and she thinks AP’s help with the cutter will be a big help to him.

  106. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 8th, 2014 at 11:10 am

    “She blindly supports and thinks every Yankee will be an all star so why should Pineda be any different.”

    Now now, don’t let your emotion blind you to the truth. I don’t even believe that every Yankee should be an all star. I’ve said that repeatedly. There have been Yankees I haven’t “blindly supported” (Kuroda being one, shame on me), and I was all for putting David Cone on the top of the trash heap when he stopped performing.

    So unless you know what you’re talking about maybe you should shut up.

    Meanwhile, I definitely do think Pineda will be an all star and you bet I support him!

    Nice seeing you!

    Have a good day now.

    :)

  107. MTU March 8th, 2014 at 11:11 am

    Dan-

    None of knows when that time really is.

    I just say we have a surplus and a big job ahead of us.

    People can disagree as to when is the best time to get started on that project.

    My opinion is the sooner the better. Yours might involve more patience.

    What matters is what the Yankees think and nobody knows the answer to that.

    ;)

  108. Against All Odds March 8th, 2014 at 11:11 am

    Not looking forward to his starts is not rooting against him.

    ————————-

    Actually it is if you are not looking forward to his starts it means you don’t want to see him or have him on the team.

  109. sjb23 March 8th, 2014 at 11:12 am

    bigdan -

    I’m beginning to worry about the Yankees misusing Phelps the same way they did Chamberlain and Hughes – by not defining his role. They’re always being criticized for player development. To me, this is one of the reasons why it’s been an issue. At this point in his career, I think Phelps needs to know where exactly he fits. He’s 27, and hasn’t pitched 150+ innings since 2010. I’m glad to see you think he could also thrive as the 8th inning guy.

    I’d love to see the Yanks try to work Pineda & Nuno (because he’s a lefty) into the rotation & figure out a way to have CC work every 5th day, but all the rest work every 6th day. I think it solves a lot of potential problems.

    IMO Adam Warren should be the long man out of the pen.

  110. bigdan22 March 8th, 2014 at 11:13 am

    MTU March 8th, 2014 at 11:11 am
    Dan-

    None of knows when that time really is.

    I just say we have a surplus and a big job ahead of us.

    People can disagree as to when is the best time to get started on that project.

    My opinion is the sooner the better. Yours might involve more patience.

    What matters is what the Yankees think and nobody knows the answer to that.

    ;)

    ——

    Of course if another team approaches the Yanks now and, you know, makes them an offer they can’t refuse . . .

  111. MTU March 8th, 2014 at 11:13 am

    sjb-

    They do know where Phelps fits.

    He is the modern day version of Ramiro Mendoza.

    And FWICT the Yankees like him in that role.

    ;)

  112. mick March 8th, 2014 at 11:15 am

    Phelps is a swing man.
    His versatility is his strength to the team.
    Like Mendoza he will pitch where he helps the team the most.

  113. MTU March 8th, 2014 at 11:15 am

    Dan-

    Exactly.

    Now you’re talkin’.

    I cite Owings, Franklin, Olt, Castro, etc. as examples.

    ;)

  114. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 8th, 2014 at 11:15 am

    Against – you have that wrong about Triple.

    I don’t dislike him at all. I dislike when he comes at me. That’s all. But I don’t have any difficulty with him being around.

    See, I have a personality “flaw” that people have told me about before in my life. I don’t hold grudges, and each day is a new day for me, so if someone’s being nice, the past stays in the past!

    :)

  115. sjb23 March 8th, 2014 at 11:16 am

    MTU March 8th, 2014 at 11:02 am
    I don’t really worry about how the Yankees choose to manage their roster needs.
    I’m quite sure they know better about who they value than we here do.
    With that in mind they’ll keep the guys who they think they should keep.
    It may not be the ones we would choose, or it may.
    **************************

    I agree with all of this – just expressing my opinion, for what it’s worth. :-)

  116. bigdan22 March 8th, 2014 at 11:16 am

    bigdan -

    I’m beginning to worry about the Yankees misusing Phelps the same way they did Chamberlain and Hughes – by not defining his role. They’re always being criticized for player development. To me, this is one of the reasons why it’s been an issue. At this point in his career, I think Phelps needs to know where exactly he fits. He’s 27, and hasn’t pitched 150+ innings since 2010. I’m glad to see you think he could also thrive as the 8th inning guy.

    I’d love to see the Yanks try to work Pineda & Nuno (because he’s a lefty) into the rotation & figure out a way to have CC work every 5th day, but all the rest work every 6th day. I think it solves a lot of potential problems.

    IMO Adam Warren should be the long man out of the pen.

    ——

    I agree. And I hope the Yanks don’t forget Nuno. I think he can pitch effectively in the majors now. I felt that last year. But for the time being I believe he’ll be AAA depth. And I do expect Warren to be the long man.

  117. MTU March 8th, 2014 at 11:16 am

    Time to walk the dust Mops.

    Back in a while.

    Keep the fire burning.

    ;)

  118. austinmac March 8th, 2014 at 11:17 am

    Trisha,

    Is that like Fifty First Dates? :)

  119. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 8th, 2014 at 11:18 am

    mick – I remember posters (can’t remember exactly who) saying they wanted him to do poorly because it would help insure he wouldn’t be around next season! If that isn’t rooting against a player, I don’t know what is!

    And to be honest, while I never rooted against him, I had more than seen enough of him and dreaded every time he took the mound! So I’d say that comes close.

  120. mick March 8th, 2014 at 11:18 am

    Actually it is if you are not looking forward to his starts it means you don’t want to see him or have him on the team.
    ==================
    You are stretching it.
    What I want is consistency.
    Will pitchers eff up?, sure.
    You want to win every game or at least have that chance.
    It’s after the fact that you judge a pitcher, not during the game, it’s result oriented and if the results are inconsistent you look for a better alternative.

  121. austinmac March 8th, 2014 at 11:20 am

    We have catching depth and, if Pineda and Manny can come back, depth in the rotation. We have no good young infielders. Surely, we can use that depth. But, I only want youth. No more trades of young players for one year of a declining player.

  122. mick March 8th, 2014 at 11:21 am

    mick – I remember posters (can’t remember exactly who) saying they wanted him to do poorly because it would help insure he wouldn’t be around next season! If that isn’t rooting against a player, I don’t know what is!
    =====================
    we have no control over it so why waste the time and energy.
    these things have a way of working out.

  123. austinmac March 8th, 2014 at 11:22 am

    There is a fundamental difference between hoping a player does badly from expecting him too. Expecting Hughes to give up two strike hits regularly is not hoping it will continue. It is reality.

  124. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 8th, 2014 at 11:22 am

    “Trisha,

    Is that like Fifty First Dates? :)

    I don’t know, I didn’t see it!

    But I have had people tell me I don’t take things personally enough at times, ha ha!

    I don’t think that’s a bad thing. It’s much easier living “You like me! You really like me!”

    :)

  125. sjb23 March 8th, 2014 at 11:23 am

    MTU March 8th, 2014 at 11:13 am
    They do know where Phelps fits.
    He is the modern day version of Ramiro Mendoza.
    And FWICT the Yankees like him in that role.
    ;)
    **********************************
    mick March 8th, 2014 at 11:15 am
    Phelps is a swing man.
    His versatility is his strength to the team.
    Like Mendoza he will pitch where he helps the team the most.
    **********************************
    My definition of a “swing man” is the ability to pitch multi-innings sometimes, long relief,
    setup man, spot starter – a jack of all trades. IMO, a pitcher is more at risk (health-wise) when being used this way. After a couple of seasons in this role, didn’t Mendoza wind up with arm problems? In this age of specialization, I don’t know if I like the concept of a “swing man” anymore.

  126. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 8th, 2014 at 11:23 am

    “we have no control over it so why waste the time and energy.”

    Ah! The greatest question of all, after “why is there air?”

    :)

  127. bigdan22 March 8th, 2014 at 11:24 am

    MTU March 8th, 2014 at 11:15 am
    Dan-

    Exactly.

    Now you’re talkin’.

    I cite Owings, Franklin, Olt, Castro, etc. as examples

    —–

    But here’s where we probably disagree. I’ve been pretty firm on the is for a few weeks. The Yanks will not trade for any infield starters now, even if some folks believe that would be an upgrade. The team is set for this year except for third base (or if there’s an injury). And any trade for third base is just for this year. Arod is next year’s 3b. I don’t think Hal wants to pay a DH $22MM. He may ultimately have to, but that’s not the plan.

    Now if the Yanks could trade their surplus for a potential starting infielder they could keep in AAA this year that is a possibility. But, but for an injury, the Yanks will wait to next off season to deal with SS and 2b for 2015 and beyond.

  128. austinmac March 8th, 2014 at 11:25 am

    Trisha,

    Life is too short and difficult enough to hold onto grudges. And you know what, resentments and grudges only hurt ourselves. I even forgive Hal for frequently ignoring my sage advice. :)

  129. Against All Odds March 8th, 2014 at 11:27 am

    You are stretching it.
    What I want is consistency.
    Will pitchers eff up?, sure.
    You want to win every game or at least have that chance.

    ————–

    Not stretching it.

    As Trish said ” I remember posters (can’t remember exactly who) saying they wanted him to do poorly because it would help insure he wouldn’t be around next season!”If that isn’t rooting against a player, I don’t know what is!

  130. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 8th, 2014 at 11:28 am

    Austin, absolutely and unequivocally!

    When the Yankees brought on Kuroda against my sage advice, I just said to myself, “Hey, I warned them!” and then I moved on. I certainly didn’t punish them (or myself) for their failure, by holding a grudge!

    :D

  131. Ys Guy March 8th, 2014 at 11:30 am

    So we have a new SJ do we?
    …and he’s got a #!

  132. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 8th, 2014 at 11:31 am

    Well this has certainly been an interesting morning! I have a ton of things to do today, so I am going to try to motivate myself to get going while the weather is nice. (50 degrees – but don’t blink. Back to winter tomorrow!)

    Later, y’all!

  133. Jerkface March 8th, 2014 at 11:31 am

    Joba Chamberlain had his shoulder injury and his 95 mph average fastball became a 91-92 average fastball. I think that is where Pineda will end up. He can still touch 95-96 like Joba has done in his time, but he will be pitching on the lower end.

    I thought Joba could still have been an effective starter because of his secondary stuff but he didn’t have the mentality and the Yankees did not have the patience to see it through. I think Pineda can succeed where Joba has failed because control was one of his strong points as a pitcher in 2011.

    The huge upside he had when we traded for him is gone, but he still does have good upside in the low 90s. The slider is too good a pitch and his fastball has natural movement which should increase its effectiveness anyways.

    I am leaving to go to the game today, pretty excited to see Manny Banuelos but I am a bit disappointed that the thursday game was not rained out because then Tanaka would have started. Oh well, I’ll get to see if Nova keeps looking sharp.

  134. sjb23 March 8th, 2014 at 11:32 am

    bigdan22 March 8th, 2014 at 11:24 am
    I’ve been pretty firm on this for a few weeks. The Yanks will not trade for any infield starters now, even if some folks believe that would be an upgrade. The team is set for this year except for third base (or if there’s an injury). And any trade for third base is just for this year. Arod is next year’s 3b. I don’t think Hal wants to pay a DH $22MM. He may ultimately have to, but that’s not the plan.

    Now if the Yanks could trade their surplus for a potential starting infielder they could keep in AAA this year that is a possibility. But, but for an injury, the Yanks will wait to next off season to deal with SS and 2b for 2015 and beyond.
    ********************************************
    I totally agree with this philosophy. But as you alluded to, the team is not prepared for multi-injuries to the infielders. (Not that many teams are.) Imagine if Roberts and Jeter go down at the same time? After witnessing last year’s decimation due to injuries, I think we’re all a bit gun-shy and paranoid.

  135. sjb23 March 8th, 2014 at 11:36 am

    Ys Guy March 8th, 2014 at 11:30 am
    So we have a new SJ do we?
    …and he’s got a #!
    ******************************
    If you’re referring to me…. Hi! I’m Steve. I’ve been following LoHud for years but have never been a regular poster -but I intend to become one now! :-)

    BTW, I had #23 before Mattingly or MJ – they obviously were aware of “The Legend” :-)

  136. Ys Guy March 8th, 2014 at 11:36 am

    Arod is not anybody’s 3b next year.
    Loaded up with a dozen PED’S he was only able to avg. 88 games/year the past 3 seasons.
    Now after a full years layoff, and supposedly off PEDs probably for the first time since HS, he’ll be someone’s bench bat at best, but not the Yankee’s

  137. austinmac March 8th, 2014 at 11:37 am

    Jf,

    Enjoy the game. You can go knowing we are all jealous. I sure am especially since I grew up twenty miles away.

  138. Ys Guy March 8th, 2014 at 11:37 am

    Welcome SJ, Steve !

  139. UpState March 8th, 2014 at 11:41 am

    The Cardinals have signed Matt Carpenter to a six-year, $52MM extension, locking up their star infielder through his age-33 season.

    That’s about an AAV of …. $8.7 million

    (props MLBTR)

  140. bigdan22 March 8th, 2014 at 11:42 am

    sjb23 March 8th, 2014 at 11:32 am
    bigdan22 March 8th, 2014 at 11:24 am
    I’ve been pretty firm on this for a few weeks. The Yanks will not trade for any infield starters now, even if some folks believe that would be an upgrade. The team is set for this year except for third base (or if there’s an injury). And any trade for third base is just for this year. Arod is next year’s 3b. I don’t think Hal wants to pay a DH $22MM. He may ultimately have to, but that’s not the plan.

    Now if the Yanks could trade their surplus for a potential starting infielder they could keep in AAA this year that is a possibility. But, but for an injury, the Yanks will wait to next off season to deal with SS and 2b for 2015 and beyond.
    ********************************************
    I totally agree with this philosophy. But as you alluded to, the team is not prepared for multi-injuries to the infielders. (Not that many teams are.) Imagine if Roberts and Jeter go down at the same time? After witnessing last year’s decimation due to injuries, I think we’re all a bit gun-shy and paranoid.

    ———

    I’m not sure it’s a good philosophy sjb23 but I believe this is the Yanks’ plan for 2014. And like you say, injuries are quite likely to happen. Especially to Roberts. Perhaps Jeter and Tex too. Which is why the Yanks need to hold on to their trading chips and not use them in ST. They’ll be a time to trade the surplus later. Lets be thankful they actually have some surplus this year.

  141. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 8th, 2014 at 11:43 am

    Just a drive by to say that MLB television is broadcasting today’s Yankee game, in case anyone needs to DVR it!

  142. bbb51 March 8th, 2014 at 11:49 am

    bigdan22 March 8th, 2014 at 8:57 am

    If he can contribute in a significant way this year, he’ll let you know. But right now, his velocity readings don’t seem to be saying that. This is somebody to be patient with. The Yanks have several other starters who can fill the 5th starter role.

    Velocity readings?

    2 ip, 1 hit, 0 walks, 4 k’s including the best hitter in baseball.

    Like I’ve been saying, the only way he won’t be the 5th starter is if he is not healthy.

  143. UpState March 8th, 2014 at 11:55 am

    “…the Yanks need to hold on to their trading chips and not use them in ST. They’ll be a time to trade the surplus later. Lets be thankful they actually have some surplus this year…”

    ==========================

    Exactly, bigdan22, exactly.

    They’re not idiots; they’re waiting for their infielders to sort out & waiting for the rest of MLB to sort out with their own injuries…then try and workout a reasonable trade that will fit !

    I love trades…great discussion points….but dont make a trade because fans think
    “it’s time”…

    They basically know who they can get and at what price….these dont always match-up…

    There’s always sudden unexpected surprises…that’s why they’re ‘always’ on the phone.

    Trades are not always made on the timetable we’d like.

  144. Chip March 8th, 2014 at 11:57 am

    Dan -

    The Yankees don’t have to trade one of their catchers, but the point is that if trading one of their catchers improves their infield situation then that’s a better use of them.

  145. bbb51 March 8th, 2014 at 12:00 pm

    I supposed Murphy and Romine could share time at AAA, but it may be better to trade Romine if you can get something for him. I think they are trying to sell Claiborne on the upside also. If that’s true it does say something about what they think of the rest of their bullpen candidates.

  146. UpState March 8th, 2014 at 12:04 pm

    From yesterday on AUSTIN ROMINE :

    1st Half of 2013 : 76 AB’s — .158

    2nd Half of 2013 : 60 AB’s — .271

    After he had his ‘come to poppa’ meeting with Kevin Long – he apparently finally listened to him and started to go ‘opposite field’….thus .271

    (agreed that it’s a small sample – but a heck of alot better than his first half)

    That’s what the NYY’s need to focus/sell about !

  147. MTU March 8th, 2014 at 12:11 pm

    “We have catching depth and, if Pineda and Manny can come back, depth in the rotation. We have no good young infielders. Surely, we can use that depth. But, I only want youth. No more trades of young players for one year of a declining player.”

    Or for tire patches of a couple of years w guys over 30.

    ;)

  148. bbb51 March 8th, 2014 at 12:13 pm

    I’m concerned about Romine’s back, that’s why I would trade him. Other teams probably have that concern also though.

  149. MTU March 8th, 2014 at 12:15 pm

    Mills-

    Looks like the Jays might land Santana.

    :)

  150. Tar March 8th, 2014 at 12:17 pm

    “After he had his ‘come to poppa’ meeting with Kevin Long – he apparently finally listened to him and started to go ‘opposite field’….thus .271″

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    Which is exactly what happened when he FINALLY!!!! started to get some more regular reps.

    I totally blame his early season woes on trying hard to be the best he could behind the plate, which left little time to focus on his hitting. It all came together in the second half.

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  151. Ys Guy March 8th, 2014 at 12:17 pm

    Good id much rather see Santana on Toronto than Baltimore. No offense jmills!

  152. MTU March 8th, 2014 at 12:19 pm

    Cervelli is your BUC.

    Will not be Romine or Murphy to start the season.

    Makes sense to trade one of Romine/Murphy.

  153. UpState March 8th, 2014 at 12:20 pm

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  154. sjb23 March 8th, 2014 at 12:21 pm

    IMO the problem remains having too many catchers on the 40-man, as well as a few other replaceable players taking up valuable spots (i.e. Shane Greene, Ichiro, and based on popular opinion, Nunez). Yet you don’t want to just release them if they can be used (right now) via trading to improve the team. (Perhaps I don’t understand the rules? Can you take someone off the 40-man roster and keep him in the minors, assuming he has options, without exposing him to waivers?)

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  155. MTU March 8th, 2014 at 12:23 pm

    Jays gave Ervin the equivalent of a qualifying offer.

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  156. sjb23 March 8th, 2014 at 12:26 pm

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    AL East = one BEAST of a division. The Yanks are going to have to really beat the crap out of all non-division opponents and hope for .500 against the AL East to get to 95 wins, IMO.

  157. bbb51 March 8th, 2014 at 12:28 pm

    Surprised Seattle didn’t sign him for that, Cano must be shaking his head…

  158. MTU March 8th, 2014 at 12:30 pm

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    I hope we get lucky after last year’s health debacle.

    We’re due for some good fortune.

  159. Ys Guy March 8th, 2014 at 12:31 pm

    Santana is a big risk because he has a damaged tendon in his elbow. He actually pitched through it and avoided TJS.
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  160. Ys Guy March 8th, 2014 at 12:43 pm

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